91: Scott Free

00:05 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for April 5th, 2023, episode number 91. Hey, did you miss us? We're back with another Mo Facts with Adam Curry. That's right, month of April 2023. I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo Facts. How you doing, Adam? I'm good, Mo. How about yourself? I'm doing well. Doing well. I'm so happy to hear that. Now it's been a... Oh man, let me see. The last time we did a show was I think February? I'm not mistaken? Yes, middle of February. And a lot of people missing us, missing the regular shows. Mo and I have been talking and...

00:53 Kind of came to a conclusion that you know there was some big changes in your life mo You know we started this show how many years ago has it been now has it been for almost four years I think we're headed into the fourth year into the fourth year no no no we're headed towards the fourth year to the fourth yeah exactly okay I remember cuz we first started talking when I was on my honeymoon and Right. Which I remember. That's a good way to remember it. May 15th, May 19th. Oops, May 19th, 2019. Easy there, Kirk. I know, I know. And it was, yeah, it was, I don't know, it was maybe a couple weeks after that, after we were talking back and forth, and then we decided, hey, let's do this show. Of course, things were very, very different then. You had a corporate job, you were kind of set the way you wanted your life to be, the way that you expected it, and then boom, not only did COVID hit,

01:42 Then they came out with the Vaxx mandates and that really changed everything, didn't it? That took my life to a whole other trajectory that I didn't expect and has caused some time tension other than anything else because when I do this show, I'm dedicated 100% to making the highest quality product possible. And if I can't do that, then Guess we might need to make some changes. So as it looks right now We're gonna be bringing the show to an end but not right now We're going into the final season. I guess that's how I look at it. We got I want to get to the hundred

02:27 Number because I think that's that's significant to me as far as accomplishment as you know I know who knew I was gonna be a podcaster first of all You were forced into being an entrepreneur I mean you have you had to set up a whole different business just to really keep you know some consistency going in your family fed it and That's correct and what people don't understand with the whole Vax situation and why we talked about it so intensely on several episodes is it wasn't that I was losing one job and you go to another job for what field I am in there's kind of like a we're blackballed for Latin lack of a better word if you're not vexed and

03:10 And so I had to, like I said, go out on my own, be an entrepreneur. And that's consuming far more time than I thought it would, but that's my foundation of wealth. And as I told you, when we first discussed this, I'm torn between two families. My Natural-born family or you know my actual blood family and the facts family and this wasn't an easy decision But I'm not gonna look at it as a negative. I think we got ten episodes to go And we're gonna make a party out of it That's the only way we can do it in the only fashion and I have some episodes. I've been dying to get to And also I want people to know that you know

03:51 It'll probably take us I mean so the reason for the the the time in between episodes is literally because Mo has to do so much work And it was different when you had the corporate job was a little easier for you to find time to do that allow me to explain the mechanics of that across the four years of Us doing this show when we first started I was an individual contributor at my job and And I could consume a lot of content. Podcast, as you know, people consume the level of content is being consumed. I could consume that while running my investigations and experiments. And I could make notes of timestamps as I was doing it. And then there was a change when I went into management where you're more in meetings. That's not that free air time that I used to have. And that's when this show became a little bit more sporadic because

04:42 I'm at the wheel of my family, my job, you know what I'm saying, and myself squeezing there and the show. And then it went from there. And then now I'm working for myself and it's even less time to actually digest the information. I want to let people know that for instance, this show I listen to 90 pieces of information, some ranging up to two hours. I don't do any 1.5x as you pointed out is unhealthy and I've never done it. It's very unhealthy. So I actually consume it and then you go into the clipping process and then the ranging and I'm very

05:19 Critical on myself myself when I'm doing this because like I said, I'm a professional at doing this I didn't start off that way. I mean cuz this is my first first foray and a Podcasting but what a hell of a way to do it with the guy who created I'm trying to tell you Like that's that's a movie We're gonna make a movie out of this once it's all said and done because who how does that work? I? You know, how does that even work? And also, you never know what the future will bring. And of course, we become friends, we become brothers throughout this process. In fact, it was the hardest part is because the show has to be fresh and us not really communicating beforehand. That's always been my rule and that worked well. You even would not listen to no agenda, which is how you found me in the first place.

06:10 That's correct. And so we really couldn't even talk that much in between shows just because we didn't want to, you know, ruin too much of the show and it just kept getting wider and wider. And you know, you came to me and said, hey, you know, this is what's going on. And I think it's the right decision. It's definitely the right decision for the show. No doubt for your family. I mean, you got four kids. When I heard that you were falling asleep on the couch at night with your shoes on, this is not a good... And headphones. And headphones. But, you know, we're going to round it out. We got, including this one, 10 more episodes to go. So they will be spread out still.

06:50 We'll be able to probably schedule them a little bit better now, now that we have less stress of trying to get stuff done. And you never know what the future will bring. You never know. So you never know. You never know. And and of course, we're still value for value. And we appreciate all the value people have given to the show, which has certainly helped income. It certainly helped during the transition. But you becoming an entrepreneur and we appreciate all of that. And and we're you know, I agree it's to take this to 100 is going to be it's also timeless, right? It's a beautiful document.

07:25 that people will be able to listen to far into the future and who knows what the next chapter will bring. And that's the whole point before we get to the wheel is that I want to make a product that you can start from one If you find it five years from now, if you're that one that found it five years from now is still relevant I try to unpack The history behind things we hear a lot of surface talk, especially on the topic of race We're not erased exclusively on this podcast, but that's what brought us to the table right what Malcolm said exactly and I think for years we've been having a four-year conversation about

06:50 We'll be able to probably schedule them a little bit better now, now that we have less stress of trying to get stuff done. And you never know what the future will bring. You never know. So you never know. You never know. And and of course, we're still value for value. And we appreciate all the value people have given to the show, which has certainly helped income. It certainly helped during the transition. But you becoming an entrepreneur and we appreciate all of that. And and we're you know, I agree it's to take this to 100 is going to be it's also timeless, right? It's a beautiful document.

07:25 that people will be able to listen to far into the future and who knows what the next chapter will bring. And that's the whole point before we get to the wheel is that I want to make a product that you can start from one If you find it five years from now, if you're that one that found it five years from now is still relevant I try to unpack The history behind things we hear a lot of surface talk, especially on the topic of race We're not erased exclusively on this podcast, but that's what brought us to the table right what Malcolm said exactly and I think for years we've been having a four-year conversation about

08:07 Where we didn't start out where we were friends and hey, let's do a podcast. We have become integrated each other lives off of this conversation and And what we take away for it back into our everyday lives So hopefully we provide that value to other people that they can open up and have that conversation with someone or at least have a better understanding about it so Like I said this next I'm trying to tell you these next 10. We're not going out order I hate it that I brought it up I told you that before the wire my favorite television show went one season too long Game of Thrones with one season too long And you are one thing about you always leave them them wanting more

08:49 in sports. You don't want to be the old Kobe. You see what I'm saying? And this is not a retirement, I'm just saying the retirement of this conversation, nobody did what we did and nobody will ever be able to do what we did. I'm certain of that. I'm very proud of the work we've done so far and I can't wait to get all the way to 1-0-0, man. Very exciting. What do you say? Syndication! Yeah, we're going to syndication! How about we spin the wheel, man? Let's see what we're gonna do today. There it goes. The Wheel of Topics, round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows, of course Mofax does because he set it all up for us once again. The Dynamite Show, the topic for Mofax with Adam Curry, episode 91 is... It's okay to be white. Oh, oh this is a show for me! It's okay to be white, nice! It's okay Adam, we're not sure. With the whole Rasmus poll

09:47 And mr. Scott Adams interpretation. Yes. Yes. We had to talk about this Scott Adam was right and Scott Adam was wrong So we're gonna have to fit by the end of the show. We'll figure out which is which hold on Do you realize how happy Scott Adams will be to know that a whole show was done about this particular chapter in his life? I hope he hears it. Oh, believe me, he will. Believe me. And I have a love-hate relationship with Scott. I mean, I'm a fan, but that, what he did personally, I understood, I think I understood exactly what he did. I got it, you know, I kind of know his situation. I don't know if it's unpacking exactly the way he expected, but he's in a position I think where he can

10:39 You'll ride the wave whichever ways it goes and I'm then of course I'm really excited to hear what you have to say about anything about it is I don't know how you this is this is the essence of this show I don't know what your takes were that I stopped it whenever something I'm gonna work on I think it's gonna be on the no agenda show I stopped listening Yeah, so I don't know what your take is and you do you don't know what my take is? Well, we're gonna walk through this. We will walk through some some some history as we always do and why maybe his statement was taken that way. So let's just go hop right in and newspaper drops Dilbert. We turn now to the fallout from the racist rant by the creator of one of the nation's top comic strips. Newspapers across the country are dropping Dilbert and Stephanie Ramos is here with more. Good morning, Stephanie. Hi there, Rebecca. This isn't the first time Dilbert comic strip creator Scott Adams has made some controversial comments, but he is now experiencing possibly the biggest repercussion of his comments about race.

11:41 This morning, another newspaper is dropping the popular comic strip Dilbert after its creator was accused of going on a racist rant. Dilbert's being canceled all over the country. The Star Tribune in Minneapolis has joined the Los Angeles Times, Washington Post and USA Today, no longer printing the cartoon, poking fun at office culture after creator Scott Adams revealed his interpretation of a poll from Rasmussen Reports. If nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll. Not according to me, according to this poll. That's a hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't want to have anything to do with them.

12:23 And I would say, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people. Adam says he was only advising people to avoid hate and claims his quotes were taken out of context. So first of all, not a single person reached out to me and said, hey man, you haven't done a show with Moe, is that because you're taking Scott Adams' advice? No one thought that. No one thought that. Just saying. Because we have an intelligent set of producers, so I'm sure nobody said that. Oh, that's what it is. He's taking Scott advice. So I have to be honest. The thing I was triggered about is the hate. Right. You let a minority of a poll

13:10 And I think it was only 13 black people asked if my numbers are correct somewhere around in there less than 20. That's more than enough. That's just fine. And you let a minority say, hey, they're a hate group, especially with what that term means now. We're not we're in a whole different world. When you start labeling people like that, that's a hate group or this and that. And then Audacity, he could just join the black race. We didn't draft you in the race draft. You just can't join, you have to be drafted. So here's how I took that when I first heard this. Let me put it differently.

13:50 Mm-hmm. In general, I like Scott Adams. And I don't really know him that well, but the only thing that I've never liked is the constant playing around. Because you know that everything he does, he's thought about. He's thought about how he's going to do it. He's thought about what he's going to accentuate or exaggerate. And it's all to mess with people's heads to get a response, to get a reaction. And I got tired of it. Like, I don't really know when he's doing stuff if it's the real Scott Adams because that actually is Scott Adams. He's always noodling in people's heads to get some reaction to do something with it. And I personally as a human being, I got tired of it.

14:31 It is tiring and that's to be honest with you the only thing you're gonna hear from Scott Adams other than two clips is That is the mean because what we're gonna do here is examine him. He became a mean. Oh, yeah. He became a Viral sensation this is what he wanted and But he doesn't understand and it wasn't black people were really upset because I'm be honest with you a lot of black people Don't know who Scott Adams is now. We know Dilbert, you know, we've seen him in the newspaper We've seen him on the what Staples ads or whatever office max Whatever as it was I mean he was doing big promotions with but we don't know Scott Adams as a person I was a little bit hurt as a

15:12 person that wouldn't accept a vax in his life. The way he handled that, that's kind of how he came across my radar, is more his take on the vax. And I think this was a distraction from that. Oh interesting because he had took so many L's he was getting he was getting mean to death off of his takes on the Vax So it's like oh, let me stick my finger, you know in this socket To you know, and you're gonna have a built-in fan base. Let's be honest Racism has a built-in fan base as soon as you say something that could be taken as racist. Um, and

15:49 You have a built-in fan base. Yeah automatically and they and they exalted him to like God level when he said this yeah, yeah, finally Scott Scott's telling the truth. Yeah, which As you know me Adam, um 100% 100% against forced integration. Yes, 100% again if you don't want to be around me I don't want to be around you that's perfect right talked about this several times in the show Like I said, the only issue I had with was the hate part because we know with the B.I., no, Black Identity Extremist, B.I.E., that could be taken in a whole nother way and like I said, be memed and chopped to be used for that. But I said enough,

16:35 But that's exactly the point. That's the exception that I've always had with what he's done. He puts the word hate in there on purpose to trigger. He did that purposefully. Correct, which I'm gonna shoot him some bail or bail him out. Oh, sorry about that It's a this one thing. I gotta give him the same benefit of doubt I gave Kanye sure because he did exact same thing Kanye did is I have enough money where I could pretty much say anything and it really doesn't affect my day-to-day life, but oh he was wrong Well, that's interesting because when Dvorak I brought it up on no agenda I said

15:49 You have a built-in fan base. Yeah automatically and they and they exalted him to like God level when he said this yeah, yeah, finally Scott Scott's telling the truth. Yeah, which As you know me Adam, um 100% 100% against forced integration. Yes, 100% again if you don't want to be around me I don't want to be around you that's perfect right talked about this several times in the show Like I said, the only issue I had with was the hate part because we know with the B.I., no, Black Identity Extremist, B.I.E., that could be taken in a whole nother way and like I said, be memed and chopped to be used for that. But I said enough,

16:35 But that's exactly the point. That's the exception that I've always had with what he's done. He puts the word hate in there on purpose to trigger. He did that purposefully. Correct, which I'm gonna shoot him some bail or bail him out. Oh, sorry about that It's a this one thing. I gotta give him the same benefit of doubt I gave Kanye sure because he did exact same thing Kanye did is I have enough money where I could pretty much say anything and it really doesn't affect my day-to-day life, but oh he was wrong Well, that's interesting because when Dvorak I brought it up on no agenda I said

17:15 Oh, Scott went full Kanye and Dvorak was laughing because he got it. He said, oh yeah, this is exactly what it is. He went full Kanye, but I think he did it in a smarter way. I think he, when I saw him, and I knew it wasn't true, when I saw him go on HOTEP and said, I did it all for this. I just wanted to have this one interview with you, with HOTEP. I'm like, okay. Yeah, well we'll see. It was kind of true. I think he did some other stuff. But I thought that was a good wrap-up. I thought it was a fun way for him to bring this thing to fruition.

17:55 Right. Which, as from my take on it, I can't tell if that was damage control or if it was pre-planned. Same way with Kanye. You don't know if he's reacting to the blowback and he's like, oh, I can spin it this way. No, I think it was looking for the seminal black man to have a conversation with. It should have been you, honestly. But he was looking for... I agree. Because HOTEP gets stuck on certain topics which I think may even go beyond what Scott Adams understands about black Americans. Certainly, I mean, does he really understand the HOTEP culture? I don't understand it fully. So that's taking it to another degree. But I think he was waiting for... maybe he would have wanted more of a

18:40 Jason Whitlock, I think that probably would have been what he wanted. Just my guess, that would have been more appropriate for him to roll out what he was really saying, but it worked well enough. And it wasn't too long, it was good. I enjoyed that episode he did and like, okay, I got you. And yeah, and the only thing I then took into account is like, I don't think, I think it's a shame that he believes locals is the way to go. I mean, he's not doing it for the money. I would have preferred to have seen Dilbert value for value. That's all. That would be my only thing. There was a better way to do that, but OK. All right, so let's go ahead and get to the second part of the GMA clip. Adam says he was only advising people to avoid hate and claims his quotes were taken out of context. Do you think that I went on a live stream and said, stay away from black people, every one of them. There's no exceptions. Whatever you do.

19:38 Just ask yourself, was there any thinking behind it? Was there maybe a why to that that you haven't heard yet? If you heard it in context, would you disagree with it? And the answer is, I haven't seen anybody disagree. For three decades, Adams produced his comic strip Dilbert, which satirizes office culture. Dilbert appeared in 2000 newspapers in 65 countries and 25 languages, guys. All right, Stephanie. Thank you. Thank You Stephanie good report Thanks, Steph. Oh I don't buy that There's no way you can take what he said out of context now You can say I was trolling to get attention, you know to bring you know attention I might be willing to say okay, that's a possibility but what he said verbatim and I got it in the show a few times to remind us what he said because that's why I'm a little skeptical because it's like come on like I

20:39 How can you say black people becoming a hate group and take that out of context? Like if you're saying I did this as a social experiment maybe but decide could be taken out of context and then say What was the other one just get the head stay the hell away from them that kind of thing where? How can you take that out of context and to be honest with you? How many black neighbors do Scott Adam really have rich as he is? I mean, that's that's the thing is like like he just woke up one day as I'm leaving Harlem. You know Like come on Scott, I mean but

21:15 It's two things. One, it's okay to be white. We're going to examine that. It's a meme in itself. And then two, the climate. I don't know if you're aware or not, because we know we have different Twitter timelines and my timeline is kind of weird in itself. There's a lot of videos showing black people attacking white people. Have you seen this? Is it showing up on your timeline? Yes, yes. Particularly on the, like the subway. I've seen a lot of those videos. The school buses, the kids. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yep. Saw that one, the kids. Yes, I did see that, yeah. And you know, I'm intelligent enough to know there's one video. But I can also show you 6th Street of Austin where everybody's beating up on everybody. You know, it's like, doesn't matter what color you are.

22:03 So, we're also in just a very violent, upsetting time for people. So, those people are just pissed off. It's no context is no time stamp. No cuz people when you remove these from the internet, you know, I'm not with that You know, it's free speech put it out there and now the victims wanna, you know, let's take legal action That's another thing because you should be able to protect your identity from being you know Trick created as a viral video and be you know have that follow you for the rest of your life but the These these videos could be 10 years old who knows but this is the this is the climate he chose to leap out in Oh head first and say okay stay away from black people cuz they're their hate group and it's a lot of people that see these videos like yeah, but what I find interesting is is the same people that

22:54 They can say how can black people look at a 15 second clip of a cop shooting, you know and not know Get a you know a certain, you know How can they look at it and not have know the context and get upset over it? These are saying people are getting upset over 15 Second violent act, you know clip and they're getting upset over it. Which we all know, all this is a spells and a monster. Yes, exactly. It's a spells because what no one can take into account is what the algo is doing. And you know, I've studied this a lot and algorithms certainly on Twitter are divisive. They are... It's the American media model is if you're anything here, the opposite will be brought in to your timeline.

23:43 That's just so, and it'll be the opposite of what you like. That's how the general American media model algorithm works. It's what the television does, it's what politicians do. The only one funny enough that doesn't do it is TikTok. They figured, but you know, they got their own problems, but they're like, oh, you're all black over here, you're all white over here, you're right over here, you're left over here, you're blue, you're red, et cetera. So what we don't know is how, you know, I, as you prefaced, I don't have your timeline and you don't have my timeline. And then there's no way to ever know exactly what it is. But what you're saying is correct. It's different and it's intended to be triggering and none of it's real. It's a spell.

24:25 Right, and it's working very well and another media adage that was very popular is if it bleeds it leads I'm sure that is that's factored into the algo as well and one more just to add some context and when he said this statement right when he said this statement was the video of the alleged kid I mean the kid allegedly attacking his teacher and Over us Nintendo switch that was simultaneously being said me happening when this is being said I'm sure he did not know right so he stepped right in it Just like I don't know if Kanye knew that the uh, adl was having their Their annual meeting When he said what he said, you know or did he I mean these people are very intelligent So who knows but I'm just want to give context how it was received But for the most part, I didn't hear black people's being oh that scott adams, you know That was the boulaye the media class the intellectuals. Um

25:25 I also don't think that will really upset he did not intend to communicate with black people. He was communicating with white people right no one else and when he went on HOTEP he knows HOTEP's got white people watching so I correct and I don't think he would even attempt to communicate with black Americans honestly I think he's smart enough to know I really don't know He said he was in the family doesn't mean it's always like yeah, you're leaving. You'll say a little bit adversity Just bail on us. Okay, we see how that goes so I have a local report and This is from this is what I witnessed on my local news and I wanted to play this because we know once it goes local I

26:11 This is like, oh, it's trending on YouTube or Twitter or TikTok or wherever. Let's get it into the local news and get it out to the masses. And this actual segment is called Trending, but this is WSA 9 in DC. Trending this morning, fans of the comic strip Dilbert will have to find their laughs elsewhere. Global media company Andrews MacNeil Universal has cut ties with the cartoonist behind the comic strip Scott Adams following his recent social media commentary on race relations in air quotes in America. Yeah, Adams was responding to a poll asking black Americans

26:48 If they agreed with the statement, it's okay to be white. The poll said just over half of the respondents agreed with the statement. Adams decided that made black people a hate group and said this. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people. Adams failed to acknowledge the phrase, it's okay to be white was popularized by white nationalists online and is often used to troll people. Newspapers across the U S including the Washington post have dropped Dilbert in response to these comments. Adam said on Twitter that he was only quote advising people to avoid hate and suggested free speech in America is under assault. Before, before we talk about this, having been in corporate America, in corporate culture,

27:40 Did you read, did you look at Dilbert? Did you identify with Dilbert's corporate culture? I mean, is that something that... I mean, I've never really looked forward to the next Dilbert because I've never really been in corporate culture that way. Right were you I was more of a Curtis fan When I was reading comics, I mean I haven't had a newspaper in how long so that was the other thing that we don't buy newspapers anymore I think his bigger deals is probably with licensing and you know in the books and whatever so but like I said You you aware who Dibbert is it's an icon. You know that that that the head the artist style. Yeah and

28:23 You know the head yeah Is is iconic, but we don't really know It just isn't it doesn't it's a bad example to use with Scott Adams cuz we just didn't it's lack of knowledge to be upset You know who? I understand yes precisely all right, so I think I have two more clips Let's go ahead and breeze through these two right quick and and we'll get I just want to get your reaction to her reaction. You're like she did her report now here comes the editorial information I'm so I'm gonna say this I am so Disappointed she black. Yes. This is I forget her name. She's an icon in local news here in DC. I'm so I'm gonna say this

29:12 I am so disappointed and exhausted. Yes. And even with, and you've got to consider the source here. Is this, are the pollsters, are they leaning one way or the other? Is this meant to divide? Is this meant to stir up controversy? Why even have that statement is okay to be white. Of course it's okay to be white. It's okay to be black. It's okay to be, you know, and so the question itself is for me, just a question meant to troll and this person fell for it. And to think that

29:48 That's really what I have to say about it. It upset me so much as a black person to really believe that that is what was gleaned from a poll that in my opinion was meant to divide in the first place. Oh, okay. Interesting. So I think she's right that Scott Adams is doing this because he thought the poll was bullcrap. He's like, what is going on with these polls? I'm pretty sure he thought that. Right. For her though, hmm. You know, it's not, does she really not know what's going on? I mean, this is the first time I've heard a news person question a poll. Typically it's always, oh yeah, orange man bad, yeah we all know that, oh yeah, white nationalist on the rise. But now when it comes down to this, I think that was kind of, that gives me

30:44 A little pause here that Scott Adams at least got through because she was like, well this poll must be just a triggering thing and of course she thinks he's dumb that he fell for it. That I think is rather humorous. And did he fall for the pole? Is he dumb because he fell for the pole or is he dumb because he's a dumb white guy? Lack the awareness that it's okay to be white is a trolling question. Yeah, which I'm saying like neither. That's the point. He's intelligent. He didn't fall. He didn't know. He was using it. He was using it and that she didn't see because she doesn't know Scott Adams. She thinks he's just the Dilbert guy.

31:21 Not only that I think her racial reaction is performative. You know, I'm exhausted Did you really go home with his father on the couch? It's like all racism It's so draining And if you did, that only speaks to how we appear or have to appear. That's a good point though. I mean, because that... You can hear her co-host. I don't know if her co-host is white or black. She's like... No, is it black? Maybe LGBT member? We're gonna hear a little bit later, but... But yeah, I agree. I mean, I've known you for a little bit here. I don't think you go home.

32:00 Honey was so much racism today. I mean, yeah you Exactly so Performative is a good way of looking at it. I agree and it's expected and this goes to show you Like I'm sure not. I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna put this on her. I But say your white co-workers hear this and you come into office, right? This is speak on office culture for a minute It's like which is kind of are they standing around your desk like oh waiting to hear your reaction Like so did you hear about the Scott Adams thing? I wonder that's a good you know, I wouldn't put it past some people in today's climate. Oh, man You hear about Sharon? Yeah, I Man, I hope did she hear about Scott? Have you talked to her about it yet? I

32:51 Right, right. She aware of what's going on. Put it in a group text, you know, put it on Slack. So this, that's the thing that this is why this conversation important because we don't do this performative. Oh, like, how could you say that? Oh, I'm supposed to be hurt my possibly but hurt right now. So let me know saying get to acting. No, I don't. Ask me is it okay to be white. Go ahead and ask me. Is it okay to be white? I don't know. I ain't never been white. There you go. There you go. So if I answer that question, I'm saying this, I'm being flippant, but at the same time, if I answer that poll that way,

33:33 Now I'm in a hate group. Yeah, because I don't know what it was that mean most people to dodge that question Do because I don't know what that means. You know, what is it? What are you saying? Why is it is it? Okay, like being white I wouldn't know I never had experience or is it okay to me if you're white which I I don't care, you know what I'm saying? Like to be honest with you, you know, this is... It was a stupid poll. The whole idea of it is just lame. All right, so dealer choice, you can jump in. 3c or you can go out or jump to 4 it's your choice. No, let's do 3c. This is more local more of the local More local stuff, please. Yeah, it's it's remarkable that someone someone as smart as him would take the some low-hanging fruit in that manner, right? It's even more disturbing than he won. They really think he's a racist make those comments. Um

34:28 on the back end about white people needing to stay away from black people because certainly that's not true either. I think what you have is kind of this series of unfortunate events that have taken place, but really if someone's kind of making these comments, there lies some truth internally within themselves that they believe the things that they're saying. And he also, I think he also said that he's, you know, he spent a lot of time helping black people. Sir, we did not need your help in that way and whatever you're serving now I hope you have a lot of time to sit down and really think about it But I also think that once you're sort of cancelled, you know people with that word You know, do you do you think about it and say you know what what I said was really short-sighted and ignorant or

35:09 Or do you get more sort of, you know, do you double down on how you feel? Because now you feel isolated and empowered because you know, other people feel the same way. Listen, the redemption tour, we'll give it about three months and then the redemption tour will start and then he'll start meeting with all of the leaders that he thinks are important in the community. Right. To try to get back everyone's good graces. I didn't like Dilbert anyway. All right. So something just dawned on me. The most interesting thing that came out of all this that I remember, I'm not sure if he said it on his own thing or if it was on Hotep, it was Hotep, that he had, and he had never mentioned this as far as I know, that he had really reached out to Black Lives Matter and he had said, hey, I really want to do something, want to help you, and that he'd come to the conclusion there was a huge scam. That was really interesting.

35:58 Because they, I don't know if you heard that. Where was the heads up Scott? Yeah right. Was the cartoon on that one? Exactly. Because they gave people a lot of time, a lot of money with all that information. Good point. Good point. Which we have to remember Scott Adams is or was I don't know what his political affiliation now Is it was a liberal? Yes by his own by his own admission. Yes, so it's like oh now I can go join the blacks That's the that's the wokest thing I can do is go join not not support the blacks. No, no, no, no, no I'm gonna embed with them and accept their culture is my own it just did that that is

36:40 It's like it's a jacket you could wear, you know, just like just to put it on like I was trying Let me see. Let me get the 30-day test trial if I don't like it on day 29. I'll box it up Send it right back, you know Runway right. Oh, that's the thing but with these people let me be honest with you. I I always the boulay class. Yeah, it's scared if black people white people don't want to be around them. They're like no No, no, don't say that Scott. You know, what if white people actually get away from us? What will we do? You know because a lot of their lives is I don't even know what he I'm sure he's hearing this. I don't know if he knows what the boulay is. I

37:30 The ones I'll say I'll make it easy for Scott Adams the any black person, you know personally It's probably I can't say is it's probably boulay because I hate to say what it's this performative thing that the boulay have to do that. They have to be extra upset and like I said their whole existence is Certified by whiteness look at my degree on my wall. They're saying look at the neighbor I live in look just look at you know Look at my friends and looking this kind of thing so this they could actually be triggered by this Because it could it's not necessary that white people are gonna have white flight, you know, which most people talking about

38:17 Live in white neighborhoods. Let's just be honest Predominantly white. Oh sure um Right so it's not like they're gonna leave your neighborhood. What's gonna happen is you Hey, did you get your invite to Brad's wedding? I didn't get it. Must be lost in the web mail. That's how you get away from black people because it's a lot of white people. I'm a legend. I'm assuming not but I'm assuming that feel obligated like oh we gotta invite the only black person to office to our wedding. You know what I'm saying? Because it'll be awful if we don't. So that's how this thing materialize and manifest itself is that they don't get those invites anymore. You know? Right, right, right. Yeah.

38:58 So that's my take on it, but I give it to Scott Adams. He's amassed enough money where he can say what he wants to say and I have this vlag clip from several years ago DJ Vlad more specific and he's talking about F you money What is fuck you money according to Scott Adams? Well, this this concept comes from the regular workplace, you know from I think finance people came up with their first and the idea is that Once you have enough money that you don't need a boss Nobody can tell you what to do You know the the public can't stop buying your product and hurt you because you have enough money already Your boss can't fire you because you don't need them. So you're not really free

39:41 Until you can say fuck you to all your customers and your boss, okay? Now I don't say that to my customers because I you know I'm just appreciative every day that they care about anything I do But I can I Can and if anybody follows me on Twitter? They know I do on a regular basis about 25 times a day. There's somebody who just who just deserves to be You know given that treatment Yeah, I I disagree a little bit because I don't think it's an amount of money. I think it's also a mindset. I think I have F you money. I tell people to F off if necessary, but that's not because I have enough. It's because I have enough diversified income. I can easily tell one person to go away. I don't need you. I've sent money back to people.

40:31 Right like I can't believe I donated blip. Oh, what's your PayPal man? I'm gonna send it right back to you right now I have that sounds like something I would do because go ahead and anything is is we all aspire to have a few money and it's not millions of dollars see this is the thing is and I gave this this is where I It kind of takes a long time to show because I had to think about the clips once I think about I mean once I clip it and To be honest, this is the problem with the middle class According to the elite once you get you a mortgage paid for and you have a pension your cars paid for and

41:13 Don't really you know need to interact with outside of society anymore. That's also a few money money money absolutely That's what scares them about the middle class because once you achieve that and that's why I'm aspiring to be so I can be an old grumpy man yells at the kids get off my my law, you know what I'm saying? That kind of thing or that uncle that has no filter. That's what we all, secretly, secretly. We all do aspire to have that in one way or another. And I'll be a hater if I said, you know, Scott Adams shouldn't exercise his right. But when you exercise it right, you have to be critiqued. If, you know, if

41:56 There's some pushback is necessary. But it's a good point because it has indeed become this concept of, oh, FU money, that means you got so much. By the way, that all depends on how much you spend. I mean, I've had more than FU money. I spent it all. And it was great. I had a good time doing it. But yeah, you're right. If your mortgage is paid off and you own your car and you have some set of money that will pay for your taxes, your property taxes, and inflation doesn't go too high, which of course is what's happening, or the government doesn't steal your pension or your retirement. Yeah, I think a lot of people, I think that's almost uniquely American to be like that. It's like, I got the nice clothes that I want, I can wear the same, you know,

42:46 sailing outfit every day if I want and just and I can afford a reasonably priced drink and I can have friends over. That's kind of that yeah I would say the middle class or at least what I grew up with the middle class American dream is like hey you know he's retired oh cool man congratulations I'm doing my thing I can play some golf that's FU money now that is harder to obtain now for a number of reasons but yeah It's not the amount it's it's how you got yourself set up and the paradox is it's harder to obtain now But more people have the F you mentality. This is why people are not working. Yes, it was a like is I'm making it Somehow I don't know, you know, I ate today. I had shelter over my head I'm not going to work in that job. You're saying to be told no for X amount of dollars No, I'll just F you you know, I'll just I

43:40 Float alone life. Yeah, you're right. That's the crazy thing like the actual people that can say it is shrinking But the attitude is is spreading like a virus good point And it's you know, I hear more and more like work doesn't define me Okay, you know then you should be a barista Go ahead or whatever, whatever it is. You're right. You're right. And there's more like what is the term? Not quiet quitting, but like minimal work Monday and that kind of stuff. Right. The Great Recession. I mean, all of that was I was given an offer that I had to refuse in a way I had to say F you because it's actually said F you. You said F you without that net.

44:28 You said no, I'm an American man. I'm not gonna be controlled by you. It's too many opportunities out here That's the thing about it and you have if you have belief in yourself and not only just go back to last show security comes within So it's like okay. I'll secure myself so this is where we're at and that's why I thought found the show to be fascinating because it's a Crossroads of a lot of different topics, but let's go ahead and get to a clip number five But you didn't necessarily have a boss for a long time though I mean you were I mean you worked with this company, but you're creating your own product and the product is rolling along Yeah, I use boss loosely to me anybody who can control your fate But yeah, whether it's your specific boss or just people who control you right now when you see when you talk about fuck you money

45:20 Are you really talking about I no longer have to work for the rest of my life and I can still maintain the kind of lifestyle that I want? Yeah, I mean it's sort of a loosely defined thing that's going to be different for everybody, but everybody has in their mind, if I made this much money, I would never work again. Yeah, until you get used to a certain kind of lifestyle and you realize that's not going to work anymore. So I made that much money and I said, I'm free. I'll never need more money or anything. I'm at four times that now. Still don't feel any closer to quitting because the work has its own benefits. And like you said, you reach a certain lifestyle and you're helping a number of people around you, which is more rewarding actually than, I'm not very materialistic beyond my house.

46:07 Which is pretty pretty big. Yeah In the clip he shows his indoor tennis court I believe. So I mean Scott gonna be alright. I mean let's not worry Scott is gonna be alright. The thing he has that I'm kind of jealous of his in all his floors are heated. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I had that in Amsterdam one heated marble, but not everywhere not the whole house his whole house has heated floors. That's nice. That is nice. That's that's real nice. I will have a bowling alley though instead of a Yeah, that'll be something I have but if you want to have a few money I'm gonna let you in a little tip Control your debt. Yeah, a lot of us can't say if you because You have to car payment not to judge. I'm just saying do you have so many obligations?

47:00 that you have to stay in a situation even though you know it's not best for you and we saw this with me too, all these other things. You get to a certain level, somebody gives you an offer that you should refuse but you can't because so much is tied to your identity as a, I mean, your occupation as your identity. So, I'll wrap that up. Let's just go ahead and get to talking about some disinformation, misinformation, and malinformation. Now there are three different types of content as identified by FirstDraft. That is an organization fighting to bring you truth on what you read and watch. Disinformation, misinformation, and malinformation. Collectively, these three groups are known as information disorder. Let's start with the first. Disinformation is

47:50 Intentionally false. It's designed to cause harm. That's often backed by motivations to make money, to have political influence or cause trouble just for the sake of it. The second, misinformation. That's also false content, but the person sharing it doesn't realize it's false or misleading. This is driven by socio-psychological factors. These people want to feel connected to their tribe, whether that's the same political party, activists for climate change, or those that belong to a certain religion, race or ethnic group. Finally, malinformation. This is genuine information shared with the intent to cause harm. An example is when Russian hackers hacked the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaigns and emails.

48:34 They leak certain details just to damage reputations. I love that that's actually misinformation in itself because of course we know it wasn't, it was an inside job, it wasn't the Russians. That's hilarious. So malinformation. I think this is okay to be white meme is malinformation because of the definition is genuine information shared with the intent to cause harm. Yeah. Who would everybody would well according to the poll 80% of the people or whatever said it's okay to be white I know that's the thing now my question to you the reason why I play this clip from show 80 is That what do you think if you had to classify? Scott's Adam Scott Scott's actions Which one would do you think it would be because I'm not sure just yet and as we've discussed here We don't know what his intent was but if you had which one do you?

49:31 file this under. Well I can only file it under manipulation. Yes, I mean that's what he does. He's manipulating it for he knows I mean okay let me see if I can classify it. Okay, okay let me I'll go through them right quick. It's disinformation is you know it's wrong And you know, it's not you know, what's wrong and you share right? Misinformation is you were unaware that it's wrong And you share it right and then mal information is it's true You know, I'm gonna give you example of mal information from my standpoint and this goes into this story the the fifth the 1550 thing right, you know

50:19 50 what 50% of murders is called by 15 13 15 13 excuse me 50 13 right that's it 50% of the you know murders is caused by 13% of the population right that is true but the way is being used is say oh yeah 13% of population is murderers right I mean, it just doesn't fit into any one of those categories for me personally because I know that... I couldn't either. I wanted to see. I just wanted to run that by you. Manipulation. That's what it is. He's manipulating it to make a point to say... and you know the point of freedom of speech because I think I heard it and we'll get to that I'm sure where he said, you know, this is what it costs me to have freedom of speech to be able to draw what I want, say what I want, and be who I want. Yeah, I mean,

51:07 He paid a much bigger financial price than I did because 15 years ago I just said, I'm checking out. I'm just going to do my own thing, do it with Dvorak. I had to reduce my costs a lot, but I've had my complete freedom of speech since that day. Just another way of going about it, I guess. Yes. So now we got to get into it's okay to be white because this thing has been floating around for five years. Were you aware of this? I didn't, I wasn't aware of this whole it's okay to be white. Yes, I am aware of it because they popped up in Austin, you know, other places about say on, you know, like signs and the minute you see it,

51:59 This started a couple years ago actually, I think. And it was immediately labeled as racist, white nationalists who were saying this, but no, it was the beginning of BLM. Let me just see if I can tell you how far back that goes. Why you look that up? So this is kind of like the all lives matter kind of thing, right? And whoever comes up with these Tag lines or memes or what you want to call them. Mm-hmm. They're ingenious in function 2020 May 2020 I think is the first time we had a Yeah

52:39 It was and yeah, I was Van Jones. I think was moaning about it You know, so it goes back further cuz I got clips these next clip is like four or five years old So I'm just gonna you yeah, so Like make America great again. Mm-hmm. Why all lives matter? Yeah, when Kanye did white lives matter, right? It's okay to be white if you respond back to that How can you yeah, no, but how can you know I'm oh Whoever created it you you say oh, I'm not I'm not with Magga. You're like. Oh, you don't want to make America great again, right? Oh, you don't think you don't think Oh being white is okay. It's brilliant. You don't think all lives matter. Yeah It's like you you just got to stay away from it because you're never gonna be right

53:26 It's rubber and glue, man. It's rubber and glue. So let's go ahead. This is another local report. When neighbors get upset over seeing the it's okay to be white flyer. Flyer that's been making the rounds in one Beaverton neighborhood has some left wondering why. Our Cole Miller looked into this. He joins us live from the Sexton Mountain neighborhood with more, Cole. Well Jeff Jennifer, good evening. I'm told those flyers have been showing up on street lights and they read it's okay to be white. One neighbor here telling me that this part of town is a melting pot and she just wants everybody to feel safe.

54:02 And on a lamppost there was just right smack in my eye line like somebody had put it there intentionally So I instantly ripped it down Mary Elizabeth summer couldn't believe it this flyer found just down the street from her front door She says it made her so upset. She took it home and then ran it through the shredder white lady, I'm guessing Yes, yes, and this is Let's go ahead and jump into the second part and then we'll talk about it on this other side. This is her being upset more. Others around Beaverton's Sexton Mountain spotting them too. My neighbor Naomi, she also came across one today and sent me a picture of it. That flyer it seems is not unique to these streets. Far from it. The Sacramento Bee just earlier this month reports identical ones popping up around American River College

54:59 And in Florida, the Anti-Defamation League says a target employee placed this card with that same message in a box of diapers there. What started as a prank on the online forum 4chan, now reported as being associated with white nationalism. I am married to a half black woman. And this neighborhood is very cultural. That's great. I just love that. Here's this woman. I am married to a half-black woman. And this neighborhood is very culturally diverse. We have Indians, we have Jewish people, we have, you know, every color you can imagine. I love it where, just as a separate point,

55:39 We have Indians, we have Jewish people. You can't say Jews. Notice she doesn't do that. Better not. It's very culturally diverse. We have Indians, we have Jewish people, we have every color you can imagine. And if it were me, And I was coming up the street of my neighborhood and I saw that. I would not feel safe. And I don't want any of my neighbors to not feel safe. Summer says there's no place for any of that here and wants those neighbors to know they're more than welcome. Even if you see these signs, that is not how we feel. That is not Sexton Mountain.

56:18 It's so amazing. You see those signs? Oh yeah, it's so amazing. That's not how we feel. My fault. Yeah, no, but it's okay to be Indian. It's okay to be Jewish people. It's okay to be any color. Color people, as you rightly pointed out. But it's not okay to be white. And that is... I know that Dvorak and I laughed about this stuff on the show. By the way, no one gave up their donations or came at us with axes or anything like that. You know, it's like, come on! This is performative. But unfortunately, this white lady really feels bad about this, it's okay to be white.

56:59 Does she? I think, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh it's, oh she really, she feels that this is a hateful thing to say. Because you can, I'm not buying it. I ain't, no, no, no. I'm calling bull crap. No, the context is this. It's she, like, I remember, I think as a kid, It's okay to be gay. I'm glad to be gay. I think it was that. Sing if you're glad to be gay. It was a hit song for a while. Sing if you're glad to be gay. Sing if you're happy that way. It was okay to be gay. It's okay to be white. But she hears, it's okay to be white. She just hears it differently. I think that's what she's hearing and that's programmed into her. Maybe from her half-black wife. I don't know.

57:49 But here's the thing is and this is why it's hard for me to separate because the same way I said the news I was being performative When you see that sign, I think it's a good amount of people is like this is what expected of me You know, it's it's I have to be torn up my day I have to go get that sign and not throw it in the trash. Oh, no Lord I have to take it back to the house and shred it and You know, to show how woke I am. That's the performative part. I guarantee you, Mo.

58:26 I guarantee you she felt horrified by that sign. The performative part, I had to go shred it and all that and the amount of psychological operations that has been performed on American citizens, I 100, I'm not gonna say it, five by five, I believe she feels that is a hateful sign. Everything else she did about it was performed, but in her core being she believes that is a hateful thing to say. I believe your take as well.

59:06 But I'm saying to the degree that people take it to is where it becomes performative. I'm gonna give you an example. That's just like I hate litterers. I think that's one of the dumbest things ever that you just chunk a soda, you know what I'm saying, a can or cup out the window. But I'm not pulling over and going to get the cup the guy in front of me threw out. You see what I'm saying? Like it's the- Oh, stop, stop, stop! Here's a white lady experience. My grandmother. Wiffy. She was like Marilyn Monroe, man. She was badass, drove convertibles, had five ex-husbands. If she was behind a car at a stoplight and someone threw some trash out the window, she'd get out of her car, she'd pick it up, she'd knock on the window and said, I just picked up your trash.

59:54 So see and she that's That's what I'm gonna talk about, but I'm just saying for myself. I'm I did test literature But I'm not I'm saying she could detest what what she thinks is being represented towards that But it's the performative parts incoming I took action and you go back to the office and like look I usually say you had the little shavings in a ziploc bag is like see I You're saying this is what anti-racism looks like. I agree. I'm just saying I grew up in middle white middle America at least until age you know seven but you know there was like back and forth. This was

1:00:32 It was all performative. And the middle class, right? Middle class white people would be like, hey man, keep America clean and do this. And it was very like, you know, you've got to do these certain things. You've got to be like this. It's hard to explain, but it's... It's the other side, you know, remember it's the other side of how black middle class Americans would be. Oh, the kids got to dress up nice, we're going to go visit those people, whatever. You know, it's like, it's all performative, but it's deep. At its core, I think it's deeply ingrained in us. I agree with you, and I'll add to your point that the reason for the performance is deeply embedded. Yes. The need, like that need to perform. Correct. You know that, I just want to go over to my friend's house with some regular clothes on, but that need, you know, to be accepted. And the reason why I'm stressing this point is this is the cost that is going to cost Scott Adams.

1:01:35 I'm letting him know now what you wanted to happen to black people where you don't invite them to weddings and functions and stuff like that That uno reverse card is gonna be played on you because it's like, you know, we can't have Scott at the wedding That's where that's where the system really kicks in you'll say hey he's persona non grata they have a word for it so it's No, we can't have you have to stay away from Scott Adams. He's a hate group You know anything he projected out is gonna fall upon him and it's bigger than money, bro It's big this system is bigger than money now How about how about this meta this meta part of it? Maybe he doesn't give a shit. Maybe he doesn't care. So that kind of makes him actually in a way a racist

1:02:30 Well, we shouldn't care cuz he has a few money, but I'm just saying the social calls You understand the social calls to being the old grumpy old man is nobody invites you to the cookout in the neighborhood Yeah, it's like you can't even we can't invite you know say whatever whoever you know, right? Oh, you know, well little little little secret Scott I don't think Scott Adams actually leaves his house that much at all. I Well, it works for him. And I think that works well for him. So I don't think that's going to be much of a problem. It may not change his life very much. Okay, so I'm just saying that to anybody that gets canceled with money people how bad can it be? Yeah, I can you know, I can be bad It could be very bad You get the worst tables you get set by the bathroom when you go to restaurants if you can get on the you know I'll get a reservation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. We're all booked up Scott. I'm sorry. You know, it's just been busy lately I have to say one more thing

1:03:30 I can't tell you who told me, but it was someone who knows him personally and he said, and I don't know, and I said, I called bullcrap on it right away. It was, oh man, ever since I did that life's been great and I'm getting laid like crazy. Direct quote. I'm calling bullcrap on it. Bro, like I'm telling you racism has a built-in fan base. Okay, I'm not saying this is ardent. It's not may not be that large I'm talking about people that look for new people To cling to it's like oh, this is our hero. You somebody else makes a statement Oh, that's our hero like Scott. What's the guy name Scott? What's the name potato Dave potent? Anyway, whatever his name is over at the sports gambling outfit

1:04:22 I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, he went online and said, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know he's talking about it was him and the guy from MSNBC. The old guy is kind of like office rocker right now. Um, I'm Keith Olbermann, Keith Olbermann, but his whole recent thing, college basketball, they said it lady was a was it was it classes piece about it or pointing to a ring? Yeah, she was pointing to the ring taunting. Uh, it was a black girl taunting a white girl And then they said that the white girl had done it earlier in an earlier game to another player or team or something but yeah, my whole point is that with Dave and Keith Oldman who is far left as you probably can get when you do something that can be perceived as racist There's an instant fan base there. Got it. So I'm with you. I

1:05:18 And with this case, it doesn't have to be a person. It could be a poll. So we have to go to Rasmussen, the actual creator of the poll, and I have a clip from them speaking on the actual numbers. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? It's okay to be white. Mind-blowingly, or perhaps not, the vast majority of American adults agree, 72%, and 58% strongly agree, only 12% disagree, and only 6% of those strongly. Now, 17% of Americans are not sure, and that's a pretty big number for a question like this, which should be a simple question to answer.

1:05:57 To me, that is the standout number. People berated or guilted so much that they won't anonymously submit a response to an IVR call or an online survey. Now, just for those wondering, if we took out the not sures, then 86% of Americans agree with that statement, a whopping 70% strongly. We just proved that the vast majority of Americans 88% either agree with or refuse to answer whether they agree with a Statement that the Southern Poverty Law Center has literally labeled hate speech. Yeah, don't you think that's a big deal Wow, where'd you dig this up? That's great It actually from their website He went on like a whole hour and just get people the name of the video and go follow YouTube rap

1:06:44 Rasslin's pole it's okay to be white and there was a second part to this about is who can be racist which will may touch on another show at another time, but I'm not ducking away from that either But we won't focus on it focus on if it's okay to be why not But yeah, he goes and breaks down the numbers and as you can see Scott Adam was wrong Right. Oh my good. Well, here's I mean, it's crazy that The Southern Poverty Law Center is now the gold standard of what is hate speech. And hate, hate, basically hate, yes. And they're the biggest hate group I know.

1:07:22 And they used to do some, or allegedly used to do so much good work. So as he said, you might have asked white people, they don't know if it's okay or not. So the best thing is to say, I don't know. And you can have black people, like, is this a trick question? Who is this calling my phone? You know, and now you have these numbers, you know, that could be, you got to factor, you only can factor in the yeses and nos, but it's It's convenient and I don't know to buff your number up. Of course, you know It's only this amount to say it's okay to be white. So I just wanted to break that down But as we can see hate can be weaponized from both sides you need This kind of stuff fuels both medias and I have two examples. I want to go

1:08:14 Look at here and one of them is the read report with joy and read I'm surprised. Yeah used to say Ados was a hate group. Yeah, I mean I'll put you in the same bag as Scott Adams Oh, just know if yeah, it's very interesting, but I want you to hear this wind up before the pitch But we begin tonight with the supersized panic of the American right-wing Post-Obama backlash may have escalated the panic more than 10 years ago. But then Donald Trump poured the freak out with gasoline. It was Trump who unveiled the racism and misogyny that was always there, but threw it wide open, normalized the depths of the country's prejudice, even made it fashionable for conservatives. Their vision of America crystallized online, within our government too. The post-Trump age of open fascism.

1:09:10 We saw open demonstrations of hate from white nationalists using tiki torches to light up Charlottesville, to the attempted Confederate takeover of the Capitol. Once the Pandora's box of bigotry is open, things get out of control quickly and in a horrifying way. People don't even feel bad about their anti-blackness these days. They are grossly, actually kind of proud of it. Case in point, Dilbert. Wow, there's a lot in there, like the Confederate takeover of the Capitol. Yeah, that's what those black people and Asian people were doing. It was Confederates, man. You see that wind up though? Before she even gets to Scott Adams, she put the Trump thing on him and everything on him saying this, and look.

1:09:56 Scott Adam if he was being truthful Thank you for being honest the most thing best thing you could do is be honest with a person and I'll shake your hand You all want us around? You don't want to be around us great. That's not far off from how I feel, you know, because I Like I said, if you want to go to black town, you want to go to white town, you want to go to Asian town, you want to go to, you know, wherever these communities, you know, people create their own communities. That's great. That's awesome. You know, we don't need the thing with diversity is it wants to flatten everything into this consumer culture. Now, I'm a big supporter of we need to have these enclaves of culture.

1:10:36 And when we had it, it made America great. But it can't be sanctioned by the state to be separated. And you can't feel forced either. So I'm right there in the middle. You know, if people want to be around each other, great. Yeah. But if somebody want to be around me, they shouldn't be forced. That's that's the that's that in a nutshell. So That's her wind up. You want to hear more? Of course, I can't wait. I want to do some joy reading. Let's go. Dilbert, the widely syndicated comic strip about office culture that appeared in 2000 newspapers around the world. You may be familiar with the comic, but maybe not its creator, Scott Adams. Frankly, I had no idea who the guy was. Well, until he went on a racist rant on YouTube last Wednesday.

1:11:23 I think it makes no sense whatsoever as a white citizen of America to try to help black citizens anymore. So I'm gonna back off from being helpful to black America, because it doesn't seem like it pays off. If nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll, not according to me, according to this poll, that's a hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. She's so annoying Thank you. Thank you for saying that cuz that's why I left that last part in there And I really want to hear from her other than that wind up This Scott Adams is the representation, you know Whatever when he was just on your team not too long ago, right? That's the thing about this this team thing is not working out because it's

1:12:27 You have to be a complete 100% loyalist. You can't have any diversity in thought. So correct. But yeah, she is annoying. I think she's trying to be Tucker Carlson or the anti Tucker Carlson or something. I'm not sure what delivery has changed. Yeah, I mean, but also whoever you are like she knows exactly who he is. Six months ago. She would have been dying to eat dinner with him. Let's just keep it a book here I mean we need to stop playing like come on Come on, so no so just to bring some humor into it. I think the SNL Had a good little skit where they interview actually interviewed Dilbert. Yeah Yeah, then they have the the Dilbert doll like the big doll in the on the weekend update and

1:13:13 Right he was actually like a mascot type mascot exactly Let's go right here. Newspapers around the country are dropping beloved comic strip Dilbert after its creator, Scott Adams, went on a racist rant last week advocating for white people to get the hell away from black people. By the way, you know, the reason why they say in all television racist rant is they love alliteration. Anytime you can do the same starting letter, you know, racist rant, you know, beautiful boot camp. I just, whenever you can- Build back better. Thank you. Advocating for white people to get the hell away from black people. Off the record, he's got a point. Here to comment- That's what the comment says. Here to comment is Dilbert.

1:14:06 Hey Michael. Hi Dilbert. So had you ever seen this side of Scott Adams before? Michael, I think I can speak for myself and the entire all-white staff at the Dilbert offices when I say this was a total shock. I mean most cartoonists are weird but racist weird? Let's just say I didn't see that memo. Michael Che is kind of, he's always slipping in stuff like that. Always. Which, I don't know, how do you feel about that? This particular one, it's true. Look at the Don Lemon. I mean, I think that was kind of, because they have these clips of Don Lemon saying the exact same thing Scott Adams is saying.

1:14:51 So these media types, the intellectuals, the first chance they get, it's in this... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Did Don Lemon say, yes, it's true? What? Well, what I'm referring to is this. Black people, off the record, has got a point. Off the record, he's got a point. Yeah. That part, yeah. That's the point. Oh, yeah, I'm saying that kind of lens to what Don Lemon was saying like pull up your pants You know This is why our community where it is and sound a lot like what Scott Scott Adams did and I have these clips I didn't clip it but Just to give people a trigger warning. I have some Larry Elder coming up

1:15:32 Yeah, like he played the layer and he played the Don Lemon clips of him saying basically the same thing And I think it's a mindset, you know Don Lemon and Scott Adams have more in common than me and Don Lemon. Let's just be honest. I got you. I got you. Yeah, so that's the point I'm trying to make there. But let's go and get to this second part of this pretty good SNL clip. Now, I knew he was bad. He made me go into the office every single day during COVID and he knows I'm autoimmune. You're autoimmune? Do I look like somebody who's not autoimmune? You have a real athlete. My hair is skin, Michael.

1:16:13 Your hair is skin. Yes, I cannot stress this enough. My hair is entirely skin and it has been the great tragedy of my life I'm very sorry. No, I'm sorry Michael for racism Maybe I was just blind to it. I mean my glasses are literally opaque white. But to me he was just Scott, the funny guy. The Trump-supporting cartoonist who did magic in his spare time. Had a great Kevin Hart impression. Well that sounds like a racist to me. Well turns out he was a racist! And I'm his prized creation. I mean what does that make me? I wanted answers. So I took a God forbid personal day.

1:16:52 And really started to dig in on the concept of what is work, right? Reading Karl Marx, Stokely Carmichael, lots of the black radicals. And I realized something. Even mundane work serves to uphold a capitalist system built to maintain a racial hierarchy. But that's all about to change. Race war is coming. You ready, Michael? What? Are you ready? Because Dilbert's ready. I woke up this morning ready to take the streets and paint the city with the blood of the white man. That's pretty intense, man. I think they kind of nailed it. That was pretty good. Yeah, that was pretty good. And early, when I saw this image of Dilbert or this rendition of Dilbert,

1:17:43 Is it intentional that he looks like the falling down guy? Remember the movie falling down with it the guy just snapped. Yeah, you start going crazy Michael Douglas, I think yeah, he had the sleeves rolled up in the glasses and Is that an intention in a necktie with the short sleeve shirt? You know that kind of thing like I wonder if that's I don't know which which one imitating I was gonna say I don't know who's been around longer But it is it is clearly the same character the one who's gonna snap and like you're like Dilbert just did Blood for the white man. Yeah

1:18:20 And if one little fat toys in there, he said I was reading a Michael E Stokes Carmichael, excuse me and And Karl Marx black revolutionaries. Well, we talked about Karl Marx Potentially being black. Yeah, because he was called the more and you look at the picture he could be, you know passing so so I'm just like they slip that in there that's pretty it's funny because his I people perceiving not to be true. That's what made it funny, but it could actually be true. So I thought that was a pretty good set up for a joke. Well, that's something that you and I would get, you know, it's like if you could have thrown in the FBI guy, you know, what's his name? Right. Hoover. Exactly. Exactly. Could have thrown that in, but no one would have gotten that joke. Only us. Right. So that was a pretty good setup, but yeah, let's, let's go ahead and move on. Like I, like I promised,

1:19:15 We got some Larry elders and he doesn't disappoint. All he has he couldn't. Okay. Yesterday we played the Dilbert comic strip creator Scott Adams reacting to a poll by Rasmussen. saying at this point because blacks have become so anti-white, he wants nothing to do with black people who think that way. Now, he mischaracterized the poll. Most blacks, in fact, 53%, say it's okay to be white. 26% said it's not. 21% said they don't know. So in fact, a quarter of black people disagreed that it is okay to be white. Not a majority of blacks, as Adam said. But still, Adam makes a valid point.

1:18:20 And if one little fat toys in there, he said I was reading a Michael E Stokes Carmichael, excuse me and And Karl Marx black revolutionaries. Well, we talked about Karl Marx Potentially being black. Yeah, because he was called the more and you look at the picture he could be, you know passing so so I'm just like they slip that in there that's pretty it's funny because his I people perceiving not to be true. That's what made it funny, but it could actually be true. So I thought that was a pretty good set up for a joke. Well, that's something that you and I would get, you know, it's like if you could have thrown in the FBI guy, you know, what's his name? Right. Hoover. Exactly. Exactly. Could have thrown that in, but no one would have gotten that joke. Only us. Right. So that was a pretty good setup, but yeah, let's, let's go ahead and move on. Like I, like I promised,

1:19:15 We got some Larry elders and he doesn't disappoint. All he has he couldn't. Okay. Yesterday we played the Dilbert comic strip creator Scott Adams reacting to a poll by Rasmussen. saying at this point because blacks have become so anti-white, he wants nothing to do with black people who think that way. Now, he mischaracterized the poll. Most blacks, in fact, 53%, say it's okay to be white. 26% said it's not. 21% said they don't know. So in fact, a quarter of black people disagreed that it is okay to be white. Not a majority of blacks, as Adam said. But still, Adam makes a valid point.

1:19:57 As of today, I'm going to re-identify as white because I don't want to be a member of a hate group. I'd accidentally joined a hate group. So if nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll, not according to me, according to this poll, that's a hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people. Just get the f*** away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this. This can't be fixed.

1:20:44 And not too surprisingly, the 50th Dachan, hundreds of newspapers have now canceled his strip. We have to, for context, I don't think we explained that earlier for people who don't know. Scott, when it was like, I identify as, I identify as a woman, I identify as this, and he then was like, oh, identify as black. That was, you know, haha, okay. But he kept that up for a couple of years, like, I identify as black. That's, you know, so he's adding that in there like, you know, I was black, I identified as black and now I don't want to be part of the hate group. Which is provocative because it does bring up the question how you can be trans everything else except racial. Mm-hmm. Which

1:21:25 I'm sure Larry elders if it's anyway, no, I'm gonna say I digress but this is what makes it hard on Larry like poor Larry He's the king of malinformation 90% maybe even not the 99% of the stuff he says is true, but it's the it's the way he uses it and You know, how can you say, yeah, he was kind of right, you know, after you say he misrepresented the poll and then you sandwich that in between what he actually said. Like, I don't care where you have to go. Larry's like, that's what I've been saying, you know. Where does this actually air? Where does this Larry Elder stuff air? Where'd you get that from? On YouTube, man. He's got a whole YouTube thing going on?

1:22:12 Yeah, so that's why I get it from she has a podcast and maybe even a radio show, but he's got the radio I want to is it a castle radio show is he doing this on YouTube alone? I'm not sure I can't verify that but I know for sure he puts these Clips on YouTube which like I said 90% of the stuff. He says it's factual But it's the weaponization of it. You know that makes him so successful. I mean he's con it's controversial and Correct, which is no problem with it But then that's why you run into the issue have when you know when you try to speak to black people Yeah, and bring the facts which like I said a lot of stuff he says is true but it's the it's the it's the weaponization of not to be redundant but now we're gonna go and watch him deflect and like that's the only thing he said about Scott in the whole clip then he goes he plays the the

1:23:07 Don Lemon clips which I mentioned before and then he cleans it up with this right here the always go to deflection. Let's go. Let's hear it Larry Rather than thank Adams for saying out loud what clearly a lot of people feel, including a lot of black people are saying and feeling, so we could have, you know, a healthy discussion about this growing black anti-white racism, if not hatred. Adam is being hounded. Stop right there. He said instead of thanking him for everything that you just heard, we should be thanking him, Larry? I mean, that's that's that's a bold statement there. Thanking him. So what he's saying is he's saying is true.

1:23:49 What that we're a hate group? I mean which part? That's what I'm saying. Like which part are you saying is true? That black people in America hate white people. That's what I just understood. Oh, for not from that poll? You know what I'm saying? That's the thing. It's like from the poll it's saying it's amazing they could take a piece of information. The reason why I'm harping on this is to just bring home the spell point. They can play you the clip He explained, he broke down the whole poll how it was being misrepresented by Scott. And it's true! It's true! Black people are a hate group. I've been trying to tell you. He just got bad information. You should have came to me. I could have gave you some stuff that really proves that they're a hate group. HOTEP Larry been told you.

1:24:34 Exactly. Rather than thank Adams for saying out loud what clearly a lot of people feel, including a lot of black people are saying and feeling, so we can have, you know, a healthy discussion about this growing black anti-white racism, it's not hatred. Adam is being hounded, shut down, canceled. And notice the most respected black leader in America says absolutely nothing. I speak, of course, about one Barack Obama. There it is. Here's a man who got elected with a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years earlier. Hold on. Does Larry Elder think Barack Obama is black?

1:25:13 That's the other thing. I just want to make sure. MoTep been told you. He can't put that on our book. No, no, no, no, no. All right, here we go. Here's a man who got elected with a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years earlier. who walked into the Oval Office the third week of January 2009 with a 70% approval rating. Blah, blah, blah. You're going to kill it. He did. I love it. I love it. I love it. I want to hear it. OK, go ahead. Go ahead. Why? Because even people who didn't vote for Obama felt that at the very least, at the minimum, he could bring us together racially. But he did the opposite. He said, among other things, the Cambridge police acted stupidly. No, they did not.

1:26:01 He said racism is in America's DNA. That's a lie. The first time Gallup in the 1950s asked Americans if they would vote for a black president, that number was in the 30s. Now only a tiny percentage of whites say they would not vote for a black person if they thought he or she was qualified. Talk about performative. But he's literally, he's a performer. So You know I let it slide and and he's funny. I think it's for me. It's funny to hear this like okay Larry He's good at what he does. No don't don't mistake my Critique of him is not saying he's good. No. He's great. It's the fact that like it's just that the malinformation thing for me are you trying to

1:26:39 As I always say, are you speaking to reach or to be right? There you go. When I speak, I try to reach people. You know, that's why I always humanize people and let's figure, let's learn from this thing and not just come up here. We could have easily done this for four years and I could have got up here and just ran it and raved and you could have ran it and raved. But then that would be the Barack Obama Bruce Springsteen podcast so we didn't want to do that. Or every copycat after us. I just have to say it like this is my victory lap right here folks. I'm telling you that. What we're what you're witnessing you're not gonna see it again because me and Adam are not ingrained Prior to having a conversation. We're we were complete and total strangers I know your public persona, but not to get to this level of conversation. No, it's not I don't think it's gonna be repeated but

1:27:31 Yeah, so that's that's Larry and it's just like come on. I mean, come on so now we have Karen or not Karen Hunter Oh another fan of the fan favorite of the show so watch how she walks the line because I think she's she's a journalist I believe and so It's one thing she probably has friends that are friends with Scott or this kind of thing But then she also has to stay to the performative black reaction So I want you to just listen to how she weaves her way through this now He's trying to call himself being an ally obviously

1:28:12 Some people believe that he's not, you know, I mean, you believe that he's being an ally? I mean, because I see the nuance in his in his conversation when you go beyond just the, you know, the soundbite clips that you can pull out and make them look really crazy. I see what he's trying, what he thinks he's attempting to do on that in that space. But I also feel like he's very bitter as as well. And you know, if you live in a country where you're seeing people progress, like I'm sure in your space, you got a lawsuit. Clot is her something I had her before but she does the same her whoever's doing the call-and-response You know, this is that call response name people talk about. Mm-hmm. She does the same. Yes from the guy in the local news report Yes, yes, yeah, you're right he was on that in that space but I also feel like he's very bitter as well

1:29:06 as well. And, you know, if you live in a country where you're seeing people progress, like I'm sure in your space, you got a lawsuit. So your your progression looks like oppression to somebody that's used to seeing you in a subservient role. So every place you turn, we got the president was a black man. Now we got a vice president. They just put a black woman on the Supreme Court. Indian. Yeah, maybe. But this is what I'm saying, you know, to you and everyone listening, Nicole, that that that that foments into is jealousy. It's it's insecurity. It's weakness. But in a mob setting, which we saw with the Capitol,

1:29:51 It's deadly and I need us all to be vigilant, you know, and you're right. Wow. I mean for Joy Reid to take it to the Capitol, okay, but for Karen Hunter to do it in this way? And by the way, you see where she started at though. Oh yeah. Well, you know, this is very interesting. Well, two things. I want to get to the Capitol in a second. Yeah. Well, first the Capitol. So, yesterday, I'm driving back from Austin and I'm listening to some of the coverage of the indictment of 45. And, you know, because they had nothing, they all, oh, January 6th, that's like a standard thing. Let's just go back to January 6th, go back to the insurrection. But what I find fascinating is both Larry Elders and Karen Hunter, clearly black Americans, both of them

1:30:43 Just pretend that Barack Obama and Kamala Harris are black Americans and that farce that pisses me off It's that's you have to stick to the script is disingenuous I know but it's disingenuous and how come the lady on the phone doesn't say you know what they're just not black it's the skin color, but we're Right, that's divisive. That's the business you're doing there, Mr. It's insecurity. It's weakness. But in a mob setting, which we saw with the Capitol.

1:31:19 It's deadly. And I need us all to be vigilant, you know, and you're right. You're right. I think with this guy is nuanced, but all it takes is one, a group, you know, to put this on Reddit. And now they, you know, he's their hero, whatever he intended. I don't know. You know, I don't know what's in that man's heart, Nicole, but I do know that this kind of language left unchecked is dangerous because I saw it happen in Nazi Germany. So. Oh. She by the way, she's 103 years old because she saw it happen in Nazi Germany. She was there boots on the ground, baby. You're right. Yeah, you know what? And maybe she's right that we've seen this before Mr. Walt Disney. We know what you did back there. You know what I'm saying? So if you want to go there, but I bet you won't go there. Wow. Wow.

1:32:10 Yeah, we know what we're doing with animation. And also, since when was January 6th racial? I mean, if she had said, you know, like, I forget, Joy Reid, you know, said this is, you know, the Tiki Torches, also farce, but okay. You know, at least that would have gotten a little closer to racism, but January 6th? I don't think that's been seen as racist. Has it been? Did I miss a memo? The media class, specifically the black media class has been tasked with painting this as racist. You know, that was... Well, she better get the memo. White people dealing white people business with other white people. You know, that's how I look at the Capitol. She better read her memos because in case you didn't know it Karen Hunter, black is out, trans is in. January 6th was clearly transphobic.

1:33:06 Thank you We're done with you to the side. We know we got about 90% y'all vote, you know saying 2024 so I mean, we're good we need if we need to push the trans, you know, and and I want you since you brought up alliterations and Larry Elder needed to update his own his talking points because it's no longer anti white racism It's reverse racism and I heard Trump dropped that a couple of times and his address Oh, so I think there's a pivot yet to reverse racism from anti white racism

1:33:43 Which is interesting. Because it takes the problematic word out of it too. Because I would say a couple years ago if you said that's reverse racism people say reverse racism is racism. Okay yeah of course it is racism is racism that that's a good point but that it's now accepted as a talking point reverse racism interesting. Just listen for it because I heard him say it and I was like that's That's a good alliteration. I can't give it to him At the same time it rolls off the tongue better than anti white racism reverse racism. It just flows So that's that's the wrap on the this what the happenings of the Scott situation is

1:34:21 I think we need to thank some people now. We sure do. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. Yep, that's Malcolm X. He is so right. And we have done that exactly on this show. 91st episode of MOFAX with Adam Curry, Value for Value. We appreciate everyone who supports us, has supported us, and will continue to support the work that is being done here. And we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers and our boosters. And we kicked off with Miguel Espinal. I think that's Migs. That's Migs from New York City. Migs is, he's cool, man.

1:33:43 Which is interesting. Because it takes the problematic word out of it too. Because I would say a couple years ago if you said that's reverse racism people say reverse racism is racism. Okay yeah of course it is racism is racism that that's a good point but that it's now accepted as a talking point reverse racism interesting. Just listen for it because I heard him say it and I was like that's That's a good alliteration. I can't give it to him At the same time it rolls off the tongue better than anti white racism reverse racism. It just flows So that's that's the wrap on the this what the happenings of the Scott situation is

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1:48:21 definition videos great work so monolith monolith countable noun monolithic as an adjective monolithically as an adverb I guess okay a monolith is a well the original meaning it's a single block of stone which stands vertically. Notice monolith as to origin. Okay, mono, one, and lith from lithos, yeah, meaning a stone in ancient Greek, yeah. It comes from Latin monolithos, made of a single block of stone, okay, and that's the idea of a monolith. But we use this word to describe other things. We can also use a monolith to talk about a very powerful large organization

1:49:21 Yeah, I think in this case we're using it a bit critically. Yeah, we're suggesting that it doesn't want to change. It's not interested in the individuals. So a monolith, a huge organisation, yeah, that doesn't really care about the individuals. There you go monolith, so it's just the the group is bigger than the individual kind of thing And I have some proof here going back to the 1960s that black people have never been a monolith but in a description white and black in itself those terms are monolithic course, you know to have it, you know, it's

1:50:10 You know, this is white. This is black. That's black. This is white. It's a good point whenever this comes up, but Is it okay to be white? So excuse me. We're not a monolith in fact Asians are considered white, but they're Asian see like that's the monolith though. They're the Asian there wasn't that they have the acronym for now exactly There is no such thing. Yeah, just like the Latino and the Latinx and Latinks communities, you know, they just lump them all together which the, their politics is very diverse and we're seeing with the voting numbers, trans, you know what I'm saying, that's a monolith. It's like, you know, everybody, you know, everybody is TikTok teachers.

1:50:54 You know, I'll bet it's in the trans community. And the greater monolith is the gay community, you know, the LGBT community, as you pointed out very early on. It's not a community. It's not a monolith. But when you use these terms, you're implying it in the term itself. When you say black, what is black? What does that mean? Only thing blacks mean is not white. That's the governmental term for it because you have, what do we call them? We're white, they got to be black, you know, a colored. They expanded it to colored people or people of color. That is white, that's the monolith, and then you have everybody else in the group and we're

1:51:37 And we're just gonna lump them all together as people of color, which I found that term to be so disgusting. That's why I say colored people because it's that mentality that you're saying out of, you know, not individuals, but not to belabor the point, I want to get to this 1960s I don't know who was doing the recording. I couldn't find much history on it, but this is wealthy middle-class black people in Los Angeles and listen how they talk about their southern blacks that are pouring into Los Angeles at the time. If you recall, at our last meeting we discussed the problem of integrated housing and we found out that almost 1,700 Negroes are moving into Los Angeles a month. By 1970, there'll probably be a million Negroes in this city. And I know that people are concerned about this. They may not talk about it very often, but I certainly heard them shudder in church when he said there'd be a million Negroes in Los Angeles. We shuddered because we were saying, in essence,

1:50:54 You know, I'll bet it's in the trans community. And the greater monolith is the gay community, you know, the LGBT community, as you pointed out very early on. It's not a community. It's not a monolith. But when you use these terms, you're implying it in the term itself. When you say black, what is black? What does that mean? Only thing blacks mean is not white. That's the governmental term for it because you have, what do we call them? We're white, they got to be black, you know, a colored. They expanded it to colored people or people of color. That is white, that's the monolith, and then you have everybody else in the group and we're

1:51:37 And we're just gonna lump them all together as people of color, which I found that term to be so disgusting. That's why I say colored people because it's that mentality that you're saying out of, you know, not individuals, but not to belabor the point, I want to get to this 1960s I don't know who was doing the recording. I couldn't find much history on it, but this is wealthy middle-class black people in Los Angeles and listen how they talk about their southern blacks that are pouring into Los Angeles at the time. If you recall, at our last meeting we discussed the problem of integrated housing and we found out that almost 1,700 Negroes are moving into Los Angeles a month. By 1970, there'll probably be a million Negroes in this city. And I know that people are concerned about this. They may not talk about it very often, but I certainly heard them shudder in church when he said there'd be a million Negroes in Los Angeles. We shuddered because we were saying, in essence,

1:52:35 The majority of these people are not like we are. And we felt that we, maybe some of us felt we left the South because we were getting away from this problem. We are a part of this exodus too. But we are a little maybe embarrassed by the fact that here we're going to have a mass element come in that's going to create a tremendous social problem in the community to which we find a great deal of difficulty in relating to. I like it. We forgot that monolith Negroes. Yeah another great. It's always a term African-american is there reinvent this term over and over again to keep it monolithic, but you hear here they shuddered Shuddered with the idea that there were a million neat why? Why because I don't want people to think they're like me no

1:53:33 You know look at him. This is the this is the boot. This is the bullet mentality Which is the I am different mentality I? Traversed you know I traverse blackness to reach this pinnacle Yeah I'll be damned if I let black these commoners come here and be smirched my name, you know That's that kind of mentality and this is the 1960s that was 60 years ago Yeah that they were talking like this but on front street. Oh, we should overcome we need to integrate but not willing to integrate their own

1:54:12 color Monolith color well into their community like you can't come to our community We shut him with us to think of the thought of that, but I have more Let's hear another one. I'm a 24. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. Yeah, do you consider a DOS to be a monolith? Ados is a designation and that's why I was so poor and important because I am a a descendant of American slaves and the person that identifies with that has the same lineage. You know, politics is different. Solutions is different. You have communists, you have Marxists, you have capitalists, you know, you have anarchists. You know, the political ideas is different. The thing with blackness, like this, you pointed out yourself,

1:55:02 Look how they do it Barack Obama black. He's black. What does that even mean? Not even black. He's brown and I'm thinking starting to think he's Indonesian When you start looking at the President of Indonesia and you look at Barack Obama and you see where he comes from I'm just saying like I We're not gonna go there and the same thing with Kamala Harris. It's your Jamaican and Indian, but no, you're black. We're gonna, this monolith, we have to keep this monolith and it's out of. necessity because we need this is the one voting block we can count on. Correct. It's all everybody else. All monoliths are political. All of them. Yes. It's called a voting block. I mean listen to the word. Which a monolith is what? A block of stone. It's solid. You know it's

1:55:56 And distinguish you from his other parts, right? You know, it's you know, so I just wanted to bring that up. Let's go. Sorry. I don't know why that happened. So let's go ahead and get into the second part of this fascinating clip. I don't want to sound like a do-gooder, because I really am not, and I'm somewhat of a snob, but I do think that with these people coming in who are not our intellectual ethos nor are they of our sociological bracket, They're not to be a handicap to us. They'll find their own level. Now I do sound like a snob, but I don't mean it this way. But they're used to living a certain way and they too might rise up above their origins and might one day be our associates. What? Yes, they could rise up. Is that not the definition of uppity?

1:56:55 Yeah, this is like I said, this is the bootleg. I don't know who got that camera in there or if this is like We're getting together and play some bridge or whatever, you know, uh bring the camera and we you know, we're gonna Talk about why it's a problem with these Negroes coming to Los Angeles roof, you know, right? We made it here first and we've established us and this is I We talked about this before. This was common in New York, Philadelphia, when black people were migrating out of the South. To these places. This is what not only where they met with the racism you're saying from quote-unquote white people or Non-black people because I mean it was kind of food who was white at that time, you know You had the you know had the Italians and you know The Irish and those kind of things that hadn't been annexed into whiteness fully just yet So not only you had to deal with that buffer class you had

1:57:52 You had to deal with your you know the the internal buffer class of the boule it's like oh my god They're gonna think we're like them the same thing with the lady with the I am white I mean, it's okay to be white poster. Yeah, I don't want them to think I don't want nothing we think like that right? It's the same mentality. We're not white like Scott Adams. We're different ways. I Y'all we're totally different. We don't think it's okay to be white around here. Oh, no, no, you know this imagine them That's crazy. I blows the mind, you know the thing You know, you could be as you said and I agree with you Manipulate it to the point where you're embarrassed by your own identity. That's a fascinating mind screw right there. I

1:58:39 Let's go ahead and get to the third part of this clip. The whole tone of this meeting is we're setting ourselves up as little puppet Jesuses. We can't help anyone else until we help ourselves. The Negro has had two professions, his own medicine, dentistry, law, psychiatry, and he's had the profession of being a Negro. And many of us have come out here to escape from this second profession of being a Negro. And we are out here a while and we're working in our own field and then we find out that here these same problems are falling on the heels of 1,600 Negroes a month that come into Los Angeles. Now this gives us problems. It's our own view. It's our own identifying with these Negroes that are coming in with their carpet bags that causes us problems. Ooh, carpet baggers. Nice. Yeah?

1:59:33 You hear you hear it I was like I knew they thought this way when you read books like our kind of people One of the best books written on the bullet. Yeah, we don't hear joy read playing this clip This is joy read If I was a betting man when these intellectuals get around each other I And they start to sip wine and they'll look and say, we're not like whatever trend is on TikTok or you know, when they look, talk about drill rap or whatever else is like, we're not those kind. Wasn't this in a way also kind of like Fresh Prince of Bel Air?

2:00:15 Yes, it was a that that hands a lot on this Mentality and you think about it Philip Banks the character was a drum and from Yeah, he was a judge, but his parent was pig farmers from South Carolina. Mm-hmm And that's just the point a lot of these people I want don't use the word ran, but left the South Established themselves in this city kind of got to some kind of point of stasis You know what was ever going on and we don't want any disruptors. We don't he called him problems Yeah, you hear words like shutter to think Yeah

2:00:56 So who are these people? One of the people that I respect a lot, Thomas Sowell, he breaks down and he identifies these people they were running from as the black rednecks. Black rednecks, who are they? These would be blacks who came out of the southern culture and who carried that culture with them north into the urban ghettos and into the ghettos of the south for that matter. and who have not moved out of that culture since. Over the years, both blacks and whites have moved away from that culture. But in the poorest and worst of the ghetto areas, there are lots of people who have not. And these kinds of, it's a culture which didn't do whites any good, and it's certainly not doing blacks any good today. And the tragedy is that people regard this culture as somehow the authentic black culture, and therefore you're not to interfere with it. It's to be allowed to, and so they're cheering people on

2:01:50 It reminds me of a scene in the Blue Max where this general is encouraging this daredevil pilot to do all kinds of wild stunts, you see, knowing that the guy's going to kill himself if he keeps doing this, and therefore the general will be rid of a political problem. Now I don't think that the white liberals are doing this deliberately, but I think the net results are the same They are cheering blacks on and doing things that are absolutely self-destructive. What's the difference between a black redneck and a white redneck color? Once again the same issue I have with Larry elders in a different way, but in function and it's not intentional the liberals are not doing it intentionally and

2:02:34 This is where I kind of can't align with him is the system of white supremacy is very intentional Yes, the one-world government is very intentional in every one of their actions and deeds Let it plans to let's throw that in there as well. So when he gets to the point where I don't think it's intentional Mr. Soil you're and I say that with the utmost respect because I Thought leaders. I think he has a lot to offer but when you say it's unintentional. I don't know if you're Unaware or if you just don't want to you know, if you start going like that, then you get thrown in a radical bucket You know when you start talking about white supremacy and it's a system Take the person. It's not personal. It's a system that needs to be maintained to say it's not intentional Planned Parenthood Clinics are built intentionally

2:03:33 Yeah, prisons are built intentionally policies are passed intentionally the crown bill 2.0 is very intentional and we're gonna be getting to that very soon not in this show, but very soon We saw it play out over these four years Yes, and the reason why I knew because this is an old play and it worked so it's like they're gonna be very intentional and I keep saying this word because that's what the rub with That's the rub with, I hate to use this term, everyday black people and conservatives is that they don't know what they're doing. Oh, you're looking too much into this. You know, it's not intentional. Very intentional, from my point of view.

2:04:19 Or are very lucky. One or the other is either very intentional or very lucky. But yeah, that's the black redneck. And I'm going to answer a question of yours that you've been asking since I've been listening to NOAH Agenda. This is what happened to your tees. Oh, really now? this is what happened to your t's because I'm guilty of it. You know, in southern culture we pronounce TF as H like bathroom, you know what I'm saying? Very soft on the end of words like TI here it was known as saying roll that watch. You know what I'm saying? Like we trim the end of our words and that doesn't identify lack of intellect and this is something they do to black Americans.

2:05:08 that because we speak with a different dialect, it seems as a lack of intelligence. But you have whole news broadcasts in Pidgin. The BBC especially. And when we started the show, I remember it just took me a while to get ready to get used to Axe. And it was really when I discovered that that is in fact the way it was originally written. Mm-hmm way way way back when that I felt really stupid and it's not been the part of that It's like why is it if I say ask or ask? What's the what's the difference? You know what? I mean, not you but the person listening knows what I mean This is like I don't say to a Jamaican person when they say tree for three. I'm like, he's a dummy. Yeah, it's like Why do we do this? Well, okay. Well, this is blah. Huh? It's almost like um, I

2:06:08 Wow, that's a good question. Because you expect Americans to be monolithic in our language, so that's where it starts from, I guess. Wow. I would say many monoliths, many, like M-I-N-I, because the common, what's that, the New Englander Connie was saying they have a way of speaking. Oh, yeah, and then we have these dem and those guys, you know, we have all kind of Italians we use use use use No use like Wow. Oh you like you use use I'm just thinking of good fellas with these youths these youths but that wasn't good fellas that was my cousin Vinny and

2:06:55 Might wish that show the southern versus the northern even that takes race out of it. Yeah, that was that cultural He was out there backwards thinking and you know that kind of thing is and this is so a struggle I have with being southern if you just want to take race out of it We they you when people hear your accent they think you're idiot. Oh They just until proven different. And I would say that, you know, white rednecks are without a doubt considered to be, oh, that you talk like that, you're dumb. You're clearly a redneck. You're stupid. You live in a trailer park. That's always seen that way. Right. And then the black redneck is lesser than them. Yes. You're under them. So this is. Yeah. So what's the difference between a black redneck and a white redneck color?

2:07:45 Same kind of people, same attitudes. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And same kind of results in terms of violence. The number of Chinese killed, let's say, in one year by mob action exceeds all the blacks lynched in the entire history of the United States. In your opinion, what has to be done in the black schools or among black students in order to bring them up? One, you get rid of the things that are dragging them down. you stop saying that speaking black English is just as valid and all that kind of stuff. It may be just as valid to linguists and so forth, but the fact is if you talk that way, you're not likely to get into med school, you're not likely to do very much in your life. If you were still living 50 years from now, what would you predict the black race in this country would be? Oh wow, wow. I mean based on trends that you've seen

2:08:44 In the last 20, 50 years. It could go either way. If the current trends continue, it's going to be a disaster. But there's evidence that the current trends are not unchallenged. When is this interview from? This is from... night about 2005 interview on C-SPAN with Brian Lamb and YouTube video was Thomas. Oh, well black red next is the title of it But yeah, this is this is I'm we're gonna get deeper into this and the point two points I want to make that came back to me. But yeah, this is where your T's go to because With anything we mimic whatever is popular culture. Yeah, I

2:09:26 Right now and ever since maybe the early 2000s Southern hip-hop took over hip-hop Atlanta became the Texas Miami these kind of things and it took over the crown So I know start writing a hate email now, but the South took over the crown front for hip-hop. I With that hip-hop southern rappers the change in linguistics. This is where your softies Come from and I didn't I didn't pay attention to it until you used to bring it up Yeah, but yeah, we say we say things differently Even if you're using the correct grammar just the softening of teas and I was the other thing is teasing something else but

2:10:14 Oh, and also the chopping off of words, like pod. You know, that's a function. Fam, pod. We've been doing this for a long time now, but it's just that it became involved. So in fact, if I hear another one of these, one of these millennial Zoomer chicks go dropping the T's, I can say, that's cultural appropriation. You should be ashamed of yourself. You could if you want to participate in Mountain Information. Okay, all righty. No, I'm just saying like if it's... But no, it's good. It's not a bad thing, but there's a difference between conversational English and formal English. And this is where we need to make the distinction because

2:11:13 If you talk to me in conversational English, it'll be more than here. Like I said, I'm doing a broadcast, so I want to make sure I'm clear to everybody. I don't have subtitles. So it's just different, a different timing. But yeah, that's the point I wanted to make about those two things. Thank you for that. That's good. That's good to know. Yeah, but that's why black redneck culture is prominent in pop culture right now because of the elevation of of Southern hip-hop artists, but the thing is they found the most the a caricature of Southern people like for instance, um, I

2:11:59 What was the uh, uh, what was the movie? Uh whoop that trick Uh hustle and flow. Mm-hmm That was a caricature You know what I'm saying of a southern hip-hop artist we gave you outcast. Yes, which was one of the most forward-thinking forward-looking groups at the time But they didn't care. They didn't copy that they said we want the What's good for pushing this black redneck culture, you know, it's This is really funny. Now that you mentioned that to me, now I'm hearing, and of course, we've known each other for years. Now I hear you say mos and was. I hear you dropping the t's. It's never occurred to me before. Yeah, it's not, like I said, it's natural. It's not like, I know it's a t there. I know how to spell the words, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. And I'll keep it, I'll just keep it 100 people. It's, when you're from the South,

2:12:59 You would hear your grandmother or aunts or people when your family came down from New York, you'd listen to them talking properly. It was like, don't you come down here talking with all that proper talk. Reverse racism. It's reverse racism. So that was the thing is like we're conscious not to get too proper right as well Unless it's your mom on the phone with like somebody would build or something then then you see the proper come out But I just want to make that point so let's just jump it. This is just you can hear This next clip is from show 14 victimization mentality. This is an example of a person that could be considered a black redneck, but they have moved to Chicago to give a better life to their children. And this is from the tenement.

2:13:46 Most of the adults who live in the tenement on South Ellis Avenue were born in rural areas of the South. They came to Chicago looking for a better way of life. They came to the South side of the city because they found that this was a place where Negroes were permitted to live. They came here without much education or sophistication in the ways of the city. They came here poor. about all that they brought with them were their hopes and their dreams. Bill Staples and his wife Gloria came from Alabama. Well, I mean, every man got a dream, you know. Everybody have a dream and you dream of going any place to make good, you know, to make it better for my family, better education for my kids. These are the prime reasons that I came up, Father.

2:14:38 So that's your black redneck right there or what they would consider the problem that would make them shudder a person like that moving from the south. You know, the funny thing is Thomas. Oh, well parents moved from the Carolinas. I think it was North Carolina. Oh, really? to New York and his access to more formal education is what put him on the path to boo he would be who he was so as a very you brought up the first Prince of Bel Air is very similar backstory between uncle Phil and Thomas, so well coming from Southern roots, but it's time to go on to the high you consider Thomas soul to be old-school boulay

2:15:20 No, they wouldn't let him in. Okay, got it. You can't what you're off code. He's off code. Yeah, you know, we're monetizing this blackness over here for our own games. And here you come talk about some, you know, self accountability. No, you can't have stuff. Well, that's gonna mess up our, our support base. Got it. We got it. We got to keep them wanting more. So let's get back to speaking of which let's get back to the boulé and this is the fourth clip from the wealthy middle-class blacks. This is a basic embarrassment that we as Negroes have. We want to live together yet we want to sort of scatter to the far winds and live amongst white people. We are brought up in terms of this, that to have a dark skin,

2:16:06 To be a Negro, there is something wrong with it. And if you take a child and raise him, a very impressionable child, and have him grow up in an atmosphere where your color of skin is something that is looked down upon, that there is something wrong with you, that you are not, you don't have the abilities of other people. Even no matter how much education, no matter how much training, etc. you have, a lot of these impressions stay with you. I feel that we have to search for a new image. Wow! Well, this is also colorism, of course, with really, really dark skin. Yes. Which that was a function in it as well, which a lot of these people were fair-skinned in this conversation. Of course, that's how they did it. Paper bag test. Yes. You can't come in. You're not part of us.

2:16:55 Just to remind people one of the shows we talked about Beyonce's father. He mentioned how even at Fisk in the 1970s They had a color test, you know So this is nothing. I mean, this is the 60s and that's after after the fact that these conversations is happening. And in the book I mentioned before, All Kind of People, the author goes into how he went to these sorority and fraternity parties. And on the outside, it was like the party would be the darker people and the center of the party would be lighter and lighter until you get to the middle. So yeah, so the colorism does play a big part in this. And it's funny you mentioned that, this goes right on with clip number five.

2:17:39 When I wake up in the morning, I don't look in the mirror and say, you are a Negro, therefore you will face life in a certain way. I see myself as a person just like all the people that I work with and the children that I deal with, and they're all people. I've got to break in here. This idea of this consciousness of you've got to look in the mirror to face yourself to go through this bit about being a Negro is very naive. The individual, this concept was instilled in you before you could think. Right. Oh, I don't agree with you. You see, and first of all, we have as a symbol in our community the white, straight hair, brown hair as the symbol of the things we strive for. Now there's nothing wrong with it, except that it represents the very fact that we are talking about. The idea, the Negro in our society is a rejected child. There's no two ways about it.

2:18:33 It's in Los Angeles, it's in New York City, it's in any place in the United States. Doesn't it still kind of exist? The colorism aspect? In fact, the N-word is in fact used to describe often a very dark-skinned black man. Well, the N-word now describes more mentality. Okay, then it then I then I then a color but I would say yeah distinct colorism still exists because look at politicians It's a guy named Ford. I did so MSNBC Really really first yeah, he on On the five on Fox. It was a different Ford. He might he might be moving around But I'm just saying I know his last name is Ford you look at uh, I think it was being chavis the mayor out here He was running for governor out here. I think in Maryland a while back

2:19:28 Yeah, if you look at these politicians, especially the older older ones. Yeah, there is a color is a colorism thing and Talk a mix. Okay, okay It'll come to me but yeah, he he was another show he said that there's a there's a light-skinned privilege that you can get in certain rooms and With being light skin Colin Kaepernick were being seen totally different right he'd been a dark-skinned person Yeah, so there there is definitely colorist

2:20:09 Is colorism is still allowed is the end but colorism is not exclusive to black Americans You go to India you go to South America, you know, this is Latin America. Yeah, right sure this goes to show you that Is worldwide everybody's racist what well when you've been taught Sean King Oh Sean King yes, thank you. Well, you've been taught that the image of beauty is this yeah from the mass media Yeah, I am that's what does it you're right Right. This is why black publications is so important because my beauty standards were set by Jet Beauty of the week You saw women that look like you but were beautiful you saw women on perm boxes. That's a bad example, but hair product bottles that were a representation of our beauty not through

2:21:10 The lens of whiteness and I hate to use that term now I cringe is just using it But this is this is how the white lady in the news. I mean the news clip we listened to earlier This is how her mind's been shaped because the media told you're bad. You know, say you should be ashamed of who you are Suddenly, this is what we're taught by you know saying this is real beauty I mean Lena Horne, you know, look you say we just keep going down the list and Our beauty, you know what I'm saying? The older people were, beauty had to be tied to light skin. Right. I think that goes a lot of people. She goes, it was badass, man. She was so badass. And just now we got to go to Dr. Frances Quest-Wilson and discuss, do black people really want to be white? We have been taught under white supremacy to demean and degrade pigmentation. And so that's,

2:22:08 That's a mistake that we can learn from. See, like I would say if, you know, black people, black people in this area of the world given a choice, I could say black people all over the planet, if given a choice, if somebody said, take this pill and you could become white tomorrow. that the level of self-hate of black people on the planet has been so great that 90% of black people would want to become white by tomorrow morning. And, you know, we just have to observe that and say, well, that's fascinating. But we do understand that we are in a system of racism, white supremacy. And each time that you turn on the television, you're getting a dose, a big dose. Every time you open a magazine, every time you open a book, every time you go to a movie. If you go to a movie and you just see white people, you're seeing the negation of black people. Because there are no black people. So again, if, you know, our intelligence

2:23:13 meaning our ability to understand our environment. will go up very high, just beginning to accurately decode the power system dynamic in which we find ourselves at this point in time. Wow, this is actually now one of my favorite clips. We've talked about, well she says supremacy, but of course what we learned, what I learned, is white supremacy. I find it very important to pronounce it differently from Neely Fuller Jr. supremacy and what she says here is that really it's been the elites who have psyoped the world for centuries probably because they own the medium, printing press, you know, etc, etc, all the way through to where we are today, that it has been the media who have taught us this, that lighter skin is more supreme.

2:24:16 And that goes for white people too? Of course! I mean, because there's this gradient. So white. Don't get it twisted. Because a blonde-haired, blue-eyed white woman trumps a ginger-appearing woman. Even inside of whiteness, you know? And when you watch television shows, the The heartthrob and this is going when I was growing up the heartthrob had to be the blonde hair blue-eyed Now, you know in the group now you had a brown. There's your Aryan race. There's your Hitler's you know, blonde blue eyes correct, this is where this is where it comes from and and

2:24:58 When we go back for people to go back list to show 14 I think we discussed it that when you lock people into these tenements and projects and you pump only thing you point through is The image of white America because in back in those days the 60s, you know, you only had to broadcast channels Yeah, and you only had leave it to beaver and all in the family and there was no recognition On their way to the beach Right little 60s television That's the thing because this is where they do White people or so-called white people of disservice because everybody thinks y'all have everything you need You know, it does everybody white who's rich. I

2:25:46 You know on television. Like look at Al, but I'm gonna give you an example. Look at Al Bunny. He sold shoes. Yeah. He had a two-story house and his wife didn't work. And he sold shoes. How does that work? You were saying like, you know, how does that work? This, I know it's tribute. Psyop, Psyop, Psyop. It's psychological operations man. And another example, and I know we got to move on, is when you watch these house buying shows, you have one lady that's a part-time pottery person, and the guy's like a teacher in an inner city school. I know, I always, yes, yes. And they're buying like a $600,000 home. I'm like, what? Wait, wait, are you telling me these shows are fake? Nah.

2:26:36 But what it represents is, because when it's to, if I was a person that just bought stuff on surface, it's like how the hell they have, you know what I'm saying, a teacher and a part-time pottery person buying a $600,000 home. And it just gets, oh, you know, that's privilege. But the system, as you said, they own the medium, and this is what they constantly got to pump out until now. Now what you see is always trans. Everything trans is right. You know, a trans person going to shoot and spree and we stand with the trans. That's... Huh? It's to the point where, like I said...

2:27:17 This is why our mental health is so important and listen to shows like this and no agenda because I told you you know I was missing the no agenda show. Yeah, because you got to hear people talk about stuff to you know, D D Weaponize it and then discuss it in long form But yeah, that's the power man And you know what comes out of that when you watch that and you're not you're an outside looking in low self-esteem. Yeah, I And we have the next clip with Nellie Fuller discussing confusion and self-esteem. Yes, the white supremacists do this in all nine areas of activity all of the time. In other words, the way to confuse people is to lead them

2:28:02 to have questions with no answers. That's what confusion is. Lots of questions with no answers. Why is this happening? Why is that happening? What are those people doing over there? Why are they doing it and all like that? Well, in all the areas of activity, the white supremacists say, keep those dark skinned people confused. And that way, confusion brings on what? Frustration. Oh, you improve your self-esteem by doing things that work. This is what self-esteem comes from doing things that work. I mean, he's so smart And the reason why I bring her to the show so often in the back is gonna be heavy with him cuz logical it's not his emotion right it's not you know, I

2:28:53 And he's not even coming with solutions per se. His role is identifying what the problem is. You know, somebody else has to solve it and really all people can solve it ourselves. You know, you have to, you control your actions. And this is where seven habits come in for me because being effective is the only reaction to this system. That's how you don't get canceled. If you're constantly effective. So I agree. Yeah, so let's go. You got anything you want to add? No, no, I just bring me more Neely Fuller Jr., man. Love him. All right, let's get to the second part of self-esteem. That's what self-esteem is. Doesn't work against you. Your self-esteem starts disappearing when you are doing things that are working against you. I mean, it just starts slowly easing away from you so that you don't have any left.

2:29:47 But all so-called self-esteem comes from you know what to do, you know how to solve problems. See, basically that's it. Problem solving. and that's where self-esteem comes from. When you get to the place you have a whole lot of problems, you don't know how to solve them, your self-esteem goes and then you just start doing any kind of old thing. You start lashing out at anything because you're frustrated. Confusion brings about frustration. Frustration brings about all kinds of chaos. And the chaos brings about all kinds of conflict if you're around other people. Because you'll just lash out at everybody and then eventually lash out against yourself. That's why we are very toxic when we're around each other.

2:30:35 We're frustrated, we're confused, we're angry, and we, you know, we just, well, we're gonna take it out on somebody. We don't wanna keep just hitting ourselves upside the head all day long. So we hit somebody else upside the head. Why? Because they look like us. Wow, man. This is so good. How do we, what is it within our power to stop that for everybody? For all, obviously it affects everybody. How do we stop that? Besides, okay, here it is, yes. Be proactive, put first things first, begin with the end in mind, synergy, sharpen the saw.

2:31:18 What's that seat first to understand then be understood? Yeah But I mean the seven habits because it's what I do Not not the environment not everybody else not there's gonna be this Messianic leader that comes along where he's orange man or the next MLK or whoever else I have to be effective and the only definition of effective is realizing a goal That's effective. I have this goal is realized. Okay, I'll solve the problem and this is where I don't have one person I go to for ideology. I nearly full I go for him for understanding the code in the system, you know, you go to other people, you know, Dr. Wilson, he says what what solves problems culture solves problems. You know saying like so this is you have to take these tidbits of information

2:32:16 Put them together and say okay. It's like a you know a potluck You know I'm gonna get a little bit of this a little bit a little new bit of nation Islam the way they you're saying value the health and their appearance I want some of that, you know, I want some I want some guns you were saying Malcolm X, you know, let me get some of that and hopefully this is what's been representing the show that I don't come with one ideology I come with what sound advice and what I think works and You know and culture is what you do to solve problems. Just like if there's a Island over there. It's a bunch of food on it We need to create a culture to you're saying to go and get that food and bring it back, you know so, okay, we might need to be a Culture of people that use Marine, you know like boat ships and

2:33:06 Marine central culture, you know, or naval central culture or you know that kind of thing It's just that's what we do to solve problems. So just just that's my opinion is all thing we could do is be effective and in Dr. Kovach laid out the habits, you know, and You know, that's that's my opinion. Hi sign. The only you can solve your problem Nobody else can solve your problem for you. Perfect. I Moment to take a little break. Thanks some more people for sending us some new money, which we love I like brand new money I just I don't want any money around me is not I'd almost rather have a new one that are brand than an old 20 That's kind of dumb in but there's something about new money that excites you you like hundred dollar bills Most beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill. I ain't seen a woman as good-looking as a hundred dollar bill There's something about a hundred dollar bill that excites you

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2:37:52 I look forward to your support for 92. Alright, so this is where Scott Adam was right. Here we go. And I'm back here. He's backed up by Mr. Neely Fuller. Black people should stay away from black people, according to Neely Fuller and not support this. But unless it's one condition going on and that's if whatever you're working on is constructive. If it's not constructive, stay away. And that's what Neal Fuller says. Let's go ahead and get into 34. This is to be expected, but we should understand first of all that we are programmed this way. Black people are toxic. All of us are toxic. We are loaded with poison because the system of white supremacy puts that poison in us even before we are born.

2:38:45 And when we're born, we're born into a system of white supremacy. We're not born into a system of la-la land. We're born into the system of white supremacy. The system of white supremacy is designed for everyone, including black people themselves, to have a hostile position, a hostile thought toward anything dark, and particularly dark people. That's just the way the world is run. That's the way the white supremacists have set it up before any of us were born. So we have to first of all know that. So we all carry that poison. It's in us. We're not aware of it in one sense, you might say. And then in another sense, we are aware of it, but we're in denial. Wow. My brain just blew up. Toxic. Wow. Unless you're getting together,

2:39:49 to be constructive, you should avoid each other's. And this is where it validates my school of fish, flock of birds, which I haven't mentioned in a long time. But fish in the school respect each other's space. They acquiesce And move out of respect of the other fish's space. Now they're moving together, but there's a proper distance that's maintained between each fish. And that's the point why I use the school of fish because There's no leader You know is is this is how we're moving. Okay, we need to move to the left. We need to move up We need to move down they move in unison, but they're not bumping in you're saying and knocking into each other No, when birds fly there they fly in a formation and and that's the point I'm saying that we need to be respectful if you're feeling toxic

2:40:48 Just keep to yourself. Um, there's a brother named a yo, kaseko. He said the three s's is solitude sobriety and sexlessness That's the solitude part, you know If you're not at your best and you're not going to be constructive wherever you're going where it's the cookout or the party or wherever else Stay at home No, if you're just gonna get together to gossip stay at home, you know And I think a lot of people fall into this even a con especially content creators that they feel they had to talk I had to say something but their message is not constructive and Not being constructive is gonna lead to disaster. So this is why I said nearly full according to Nellie Fuller Scott Adams is right

2:41:38 And the fact that we need to stay away. And that is not... Neal Fuller puts it, no contact, no conflict. Wow. But we have to admit, first of all, we have this poison. And then we immediately should jump to what do we do about it? Well, the first thing you do, you don't want poison to spread. That's just a part of physics, the laws of mathematics. If you got poison on hand, you don't want the poison to spread. How do you keep the poison from spreading? You make sure that every contact, that every black person makes with every other black person has a plan beforehand to do something constructive.

2:42:24 Do or say something constructive. So we, every time we make contact with anything, we just spread poison. Cause we're loaded with poison. And if we are contacting other black people, they are loaded with poison and dynamite. And you're going to get an explosion unless you tailor and suppress that poison and tailor it in such a way that it's kind of shunted off to the side or it doesn't manifest itself. I mean, when we make these contacts, So I have it in the book, the textbook for victims of white supremacy. No contact, no conflict. If you minimize the contact, you minimize the conflict. Do you think the elites of the world know this? Know what? Well, I'm just thinking about- That we're full of poison? They pump out poison 24-7. So I'm right. Food. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

2:43:23 Yeah, no, I'm just dead Adam. I mean, this is beyond they won't you did or to agree with him one of the other you know, and it's the very it's very Hard to accept that fact that somebody won't if you're not fitting what they think is supreme. They want you dead One way or another you know say it doesn't matter. So yes, I think they are aware Because the system is designed and this is not happenstance And at the bottom is where it materializes the clearest and you know, it's crystal clear because when you're frustrated you've been taught to

2:44:03 That's your second class and you accept the victimization mentality and you bring other people here And anything for instance like right now in New York you bring other people here from other countries you put them in five-star hotels You know and I'm living in a rat infested, you know squalor Yeah, tenement, you know, it's that steel America these tenements are still existent to this day And you do this Of course, like I said, when you ruin my self-esteem because I haven't seen the results from 60 years of civil rights, no results. Now I'm frustrated and frustration turns to lashing out. And this is why I'll say to Scott Adams, we hate crime as much, just as much as you do. It's the record labels and the media companies that make you think we like crime. We hate criminals just as much as anybody else. It's this monolith that all black people are criminals. Every time they start talking on the criminal justice system, you know, uh, how do we reform criminal?

2:45:04 Will you see these quote-unquote white people being attacked? And something tragic and malicious happens to them. They always say what they had a record. They shouldn't have been out in the streets Mm-hmm nine times out of ten the people in that record were black people victimized first well, so in an interesting way in an interesting way you're making a case for the Soros sisters and Because, you know, because of all of this taking place, black people have had a bad run of it and they're always getting blamed for all of it. So we need to go easy on. No, that's the media misrepresentation of the facts. I don't want to be your experiment. I don't want my neighborhood to be your experiment and see, oh, it's letting felons out. You know, is that going to change things? No, I agree. I agree. But that's what they're using.

2:45:58 Yeah, of course it makes sense. You know say if you look at it that way, but that's yeah, that's crazy. Don't be confused that they're confused They know exactly what they're doing just like not the harp on the trans thing They knew exactly how it was gonna sound when they came out and supported trans people after this shooting happened Right, they knew how it was gonna be taken and I want to give one example of I think people Misunderstand what's going on this John? Pierre whatever her name is. Kareem Abdul Jean Pierre Van Damme? Yes, her. She's very good at her job.

2:46:35 People think all she's not she's dumb. She's this is that she's there to gaslight you yeah, you'll ask her a question and she answers another question without batting an eye and What does it do frustrate you? Mm-hmm to the point you want to punch something you know this is this is how they've been dealing with That's how they spin people up particularly white Republicans. Oh But maybe it's spinning us up like that. Yes for a very long time because I said they showed us all these cop shootings the same way they showing the violent white crimes now they the algorithm force-fed this on Black people to the point that they were radicalized and no we don't want crime and you know what the good thing like Thomas oil was referring to there is some change people are coming out now saying we're not with this crime and

2:47:27 And you know what that benefits? Crime Bill 2.0. Oh yeah. Because you know who asked for the first crime bill? Black people. Mm-hmm. Do something about this crime and they're like whoa I just so happy like the vaccine right I just so happy have some mRNA right here. No sample the problem reaction solution Exactly, I just so happen have this crime building might solve your problem Which is only gonna make the problem worse cuz falling the father's miss miss goes through the roof again Yeah No, I'm just saying like it's nothing. Yeah, yeah repeat repeated history. Uh, so and and so that leads us right into this thing where They act like they can't solve the black problem. I'm more than aware whenever white supremacy gets tired or

2:48:20 They can work you into the corner to ask for what they want to do already. They already know that they want to do the tricky is they make you ask for You know just like just like this the the people that fear the super spreaders and I heard this firsthand When are you gonna vaccinate these people? What are you gonna force that? What are you gonna start firing people if they won't take the bags? I heard this. Yeah out of people mouths You're saying people that you work with you thought were you know? And the funny thing is, you'll hear people say we're never letting them do that to us again and I think oh don't worry you will. You will. You'll beg for your demise. Take me up to a higher level here Moe, I'm getting depressed. This is Neely Fuller talking about how they can wrap all gangs up in one afternoon. They train their dogs just like they train their black people.

2:49:14 So they tell black people, join a gang. You want to solve your problems? Join a gang. And kill your neighbors. I mean, your neighbors all look like you. That's what I want done. So y'all go at it. I'll sit here and read the comic book while y'all, and look out the window while y'all doing it. Ain't none of you got no sense. I tell you everything that you need to know. So I give you all guns when you're going to kill each other. Now if you start coming at me, Mean, you know, you're gonna find out what he'll is because I'm an inventor of guns. I know all about violence You can't teach me nothing about violence. That's the white supremacist talking. Yes, sir You know, I can wrap all of you all up and you know it That's why you don't bother me with that nonsense over there across the tracks in the ghetto. None of you. I

2:50:03 All of you bad ones, I mean with the tattoos and the dark shades, yeah. You scare each other with that nonsense. You don't scare me at all. I sit here and read a comic book behind that nonsense and then wrap you up and your whole family and all your gangs put together in one afternoon and you know it. Why? Because I am a white supremacist boy. I'm a white supremacist, gal. And you know it. And I don't have to tell you. You already know this. Now break that down so people understand. Because I got it because I've been around you long enough. What he's saying is that whenever they want to solve the problem of quote unquote outright crime and mayhem, they can do it in an afternoon. Chicago.

2:50:55 Chicago what we saw in New York with 33 arrests in one day. It was a with with with Fox News embedded embedded Reporter on the beat with him. Uh-huh. Oh, we're going there and you know what the gangs know this I'm gonna be honest with you the people that's attacking white folks the black people. They crazy. Oh They're crazy. I mean literally because every self-respecting black person. Oh, you can't go around hurting white folks and get away with it So they got to be crazy. Yeah I'm being honest with you because when this is not me saying it if a criminal says I am I just went and did a robbery Where you would you hit?

2:51:36 Over there in a just throwing a Malibu Beverly Hills or you're saying or somewhere they supposed to be the other criminal gonna say are you crazy? You know what kind of heat that's gonna bring down on us Seriously, they know their boundaries You know, they, they, the criminals know and the people that are doing these like pushing people in trains and stuff, they crazy. Yeah. Cause they, they, they know you can, you can victimize black people all day, every day and make a song about it. Yeah. And you might get a few years if they come looking for you. But as soon as you heard a white person, Oh no.

2:52:17 You know what I'm saying? No, that's not going to happen. And not this ain't... I got nearly full of the back me up with 37. That's why you dare not think about messing with me. I don't care how bad you're supposed to be. Prove that you're bad to each other. I let you do that. In fact, I taught you how to do it. Keep at it. Because that fits my agenda. That's the white supremacist. All the black people out here robbing and you know, we know who to rob. We know how far we're going to have to run if we rob somebody white. You have to run a little further than you rob. Every robber, street robber knows this. You're going to have to run. You know, you can kill four and five black babies all day long in a gunfight.

2:53:06 You kill one white child and you ain't gonna run far enough find something to step on All right, if you do it by mistake while you're trying to kill that other Negro All right, you made a mistake and hit that white woman's baby in that carriage now you will be running forever Yeah, true. So yes, I'm just saying so the criminals know but what's happening is you have a spillage and for several reasons you're having With gentrification, people going into neighborhoods that were typically quote-unquote urban, and criminals, especially homeless criminals or mentally ill criminals, they're not leaving their territory.

2:53:55 You know, I don't care how gentrified it is. And these people going to crash collision because you remember, let's go back to the 1350 mean 13% of the people do 50% of the crimes, but 90% of that 50% is done against people who look like them. Yeah, it's interesting or higher. You can see now that the like gentrified East Austin cops won't even go there. Correct. I won't even go cuz you know why cuz the main people there that were gentrified was one they want to defund the police or the police We'll show you blue flu What he wants to do he wants to come out here and mediate now We don't do that you call us and you're saying to get it pick up the dead body. Yeah

2:54:42 And that's how they look at it. And there's another thing that I mentioned before, but this is one of the strategies of confusion and it's called white sacrifice. I know people are looking at me like, Mo, there's real crime happening against white people. And I'm like, yeah, I know. And it's used as a purpose. It's called white sacrifice and Nelly Fuller is going to explain it in the next clip. racial white sacrifice confusion white sacrifice yes meaning when you drive down the street you look at your car window you see some white people on park benches you see some white people out there barefooted in the wintertime and you see some white people walking around talking to themselves and whatnot and don't have anything i mean and you say oh this is

2:55:32 racism is over because look at you got white people who are poor you got white people that don't have anything you got white people who are suffering just like black people so it's not racism it must be something else no the white supremacists operate on a percentage basis they know that and they even put up of they put in position in the path of danger by a certain segment of white people. They'll just pick out white people, so to speak, and just throw them under the bus. This is to distract

2:56:08 Non white people to thinking that racism doesn't exist. Yes, but they do it on a percentage basis See for every 10,000 black people that they kill they'll kill 10 white people and say see, you know, it's not about race I mean, you know, I mean people just out here killing people. That's all it is white sacrifice and greatest example that is the January 6 prisoners and outstanding example. Criminal justice, nobody come to save them, and they're still in jail. Well, notice they let the ringleader, so-called ringleader, the shaman, they let him out. Yeah. Same day 45 was indicted, you know, kind of make sure we don't talk about it.

2:57:02 Correct, but I'm just and that's this why and it's something I didn't put it in a show but I just want to address it because this goes back to those black people in the 60s that was making it. The system has two gas, it has a gas and brake. They have white sacrifice on one hand it shows white people and white appearing people in a bad light. Right? Just showed that there, you know, can't be any racism because white people are being affected too. And at the same time they use this thing called racial showcasing. Where while we're putting white people down some a segment we're lifting up a segment of black people to say oh, we've got billionaire rappers, you know billion billion billionaires billionaire black billionaires everywhere You can't you just trip over them. It's so many black billionaires to so say see it's cause you didn't do you didn't lift yourself up That's the problem, you know and they do these two things Simultaneously and I'm gonna give you a great example. You probably seen it

2:58:04 The hearing of this aviation whatever Oh the black guy Hi, hi, you know people like you got to play this you got it I said, you know, there's something so wrong about what's going on right here with this guy the way the way that Black people up for the fall all black people about to take the fall Like no other fall you ever seen it's gonna make more dependent this guy. I mean he he was nominated for FAA Well not Commissioner administrator And, you know, he has zero aviation experience. He never worked in an airport. He probably hasn't even flown that much. And I got to tell you, the questions that were being asked as an airman, as a pilot, I had to look a few of them up. This was bullshit.

2:58:55 It was so wrong. In tandem, that was white sacrifice and black showcasing all in one because I'm sure there's a white person out there that's more qualified than him. I'm sure there's a black person more qualified than him out there. But they highlighted to show you we're going to highlight somebody that's incompetent in their field. I don't know that man's past. I don't know his history, you understand? But in that field, he sounded very incompetent And how they presented him this do Alvin bread brags or whatever his name is yeah the same thing Have you noticed everybody's around taking Trump down? It's black all of a sudden Everybody and what's interesting over represent their over represented? What's interesting is it's in in white right-wing media. It's being represented as DEI that's the issue

2:59:48 Like, oh, this is... Yeah, reverse racism. Wokeness, wokeness, wokeness, wokeness. Like, oh, all these woke people. Where do all these people come from all of a sudden? Why are they being set up to take the fall? You know, I mean, I'm not getting into the details of it. I'm just saying everywhere you look, the vice president, even the president, he's incompetent. Everybody is incompetent by design. Yeah. So when it's all said and done, they can do just like they did with the war in the Middle East. We didn't know. We didn't know they didn't have weapons of mass destruction. Everybody gets rich, nobody goes to jail, we didn't know, and Colin Powell gets left holding the bag. Holding the little vial. Yeah, don't drop that cake. I thought you were going to lift me up, Mo. That's funny. Well, I am because... That was funny, I like it.

3:00:42 At the end of the day, the power is within us to change us. You can only change you. And once you realize there's a cost of racism, it should be an incentive to want to change. I sure hope people listen. I sure hope they do. And let's hear about that cost in the racism. This is John H. Bracey, and I think it's a very telling clip. To wrap it up. You know, so I've always found it more effective to say that racism is not free for anybody. And you pay the price for what has happened to African American people. That you're not getting off scot-free. And that if you still believe in white supremacy, or any hints of white supremacy, and are not at the absolute top of the social structure, you ought to go looking for somebody to be mad at.

3:01:37 Because the benefits of being a white person are like shrinking and shrinking and shrinking to be an ordinary white person, a regular white person, not a wealthy rich white person. And so the payoff for white supremacy, the clientele for that payoff is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And in a sense, the majority of the white American population is dropping down to where black people are, which is to say your unemployment rate, your living conditions, your level of debt, your level of social anxiety is coming down to where we are. And I would like to say welcome to the club

3:02:14 I would say I see that all everywhere around me. Absolutely 100% 5 by 5 10 by 10 completely true. Mm-hmm and people don't see it and they're blaming it on the wrong things. Yeah, so I mean But I have faith that the further and further they back us into this corner, you know is gonna create some kind of Understanding and which is seek first to understand then to be understood This is what this for your conversation has been with me and you that I pick your brain you pick my brain you fill in some blanks for me I fill in some blanks for you and we become better people out of it Which makes us, you know, Sam more likely to be effective. So but there is a cost of racism. There is a cost and

3:03:07 And it's like, we need to assess, is it worth it? Or do we need to go with a system of justice? Well also, I hope everyone looks at us. We're free men, we're American men, we don't take no crap. Nope. If you don't mind, I think that's exactly, that's part of it, you know. And we are always trying to be productive together. That that's the whole goal of it. So that's my rap on uh, Mr. Scott Adams and used to give some understand the background Hopefully here's a show and he has a better understanding cuz I'm speaking to reach not to be right So and I hope that well, we're looking forward to hearing from Scott. He might actually someone's gonna send him this he'll listen I'm sure he will I hope so and as I always say I

3:03:57 Pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And we will reveal ourselves once again on episode 92, which will be in a couple of weeks. We'll try and let you know ahead of time. Please remember us at moefundme.com. Mo, thank you so much, man. I enjoyed it as always. Thank you as well, Adam. And we'll talk to you very soon right here on MoFax with Adam Curry. Until then, take care everybody. Bye-bye. I got a bad attitude, plan tell them how to move. No need for shame, I get more peace at slow speeds. Go beat the game, young control freak, it's cold in my veins. I'm below freezing, snow season made me. They know that I so need my space.

3:04:46 Don't want to grow old so I smoke just in case She say that I glow below the waist and the stroke that's just so PGK All I got is a little bit of space and time Drawing shapes and lines of a world we ain't made yet Tomorrow may be right around the corner but I swear it's gonna be worth it if I make it If somewhere above you keep reaching up That's really all it takes We don't need nothing but today, today, today, today, yeah. This world is so small, till it ain't, till it ain't, till it ain't, till it ain't, yeah. I'm building up a wall, until it break, till it break, till it break, till it break, yeah. She hate it when I call, and it's late, and it's late, and it's late. I don't want to keep you waiting. I hope I never keep you waiting.

3:05:45 9 times out of 10 I get it wrong, that's why I wrote this song, tell myself to hold on I can feel my fingers slipping in a motherfucking instant I'll be gone Do you want it all if it's all mediocre? Staring at the wall and the wall full of posters Looking in my dreams, who I wanna be I guess you gotta see it to believe Who I've been before but it's cool, that's what human beings do Keep your eyes to the sky, never glow to your shoes Guess there was a time when my mind was consumed But the sun coming out now, clouds start to move

3:06:35 Don't tell me nothing but the truth I'm tired, I don't got a spare second Winter blows, winter blows I don't keep count, nobody check it