06: Meet The Parents

00:00 Mo Facts with Adam Curry September 9th 2019 episode number six and it's been way too long Mr. Mo two weeks man has been it's been killing me that wasn't I got the kind of like withdrawal symptoms I know, i was ready to do a show but couldn't so... I hope we do twice as well on this show and make up for it for the people. Well, I was just looking at the elements of the show you sent over You got quite a number clips here So I can- And I already have some ideas about what were talking about today Im very perceptive that way

00:44 Yeah, I guess the tiling of the clips gave it away. A little bit a little bit little bit yeah um First of all want to say happy 55th birthday to you Thank You sir. Yeah, thank you sir double nickels And just to let you know, I celebrated my 12th wedding anniversary yesterday. God bless you! Fantastic! Thank you thank you so i guess we're both having a little hangover from our celebrations yeah i have a hangover from your celebration exactly all right moe i can't wait to hear what we're going to do today

01:20 Alright, so just to catch you up. I don't know if your great Twitter line Caught you up with Jay Z and the latest on his own happenings Just to feel the people in and then I know you're aware that he signed a deal with the NFL Yep And that wasn't Will receive by all in the black community particularly because he apparently or the impression was you left a Kaepernick out of the deal that was one thread that people were unhappy with. So they say he sold out Colin Kaepernick. That's how it was perceived, and it's about a 50-50 split of half the people saying is good that he got to see that table in NFL but the other half were like Jay Z you appropriated his movement

02:12 Because even Jay-Z had taken a knee in one of his videos and ran a Kaepernick jersey, and then you go on to sign a deal with the NFL. So what this has done is made Jay Z a target of the black woke community And so he is up for possible cancellation. So how is the black woke community woker than the white woke community? Well, they are I think their allies in certain ways you have the liberals of Black Lives Matter they run in with the intersectionality crowd so they share a common

03:04 commonalities and so like I stated before he's up for cancellation. And so they've been doing some digging on his past clips Oh no! and they found some things on Jay-Z in single parents You think about the idea of growing up in a single parent house which we grew up in having an adverse feeling for authority. Right? Your father's gone, so you're like I hate my dad. Well nobody tell me what to do! I'm the man of the house and then you hit the street and you run into a police officer in his first state put your hands up freeze shut up

03:48 excuse my language to everybody, you're like fuck you. Right? So that interaction causes people to lose lives and we don't want people that's in charge of the police areas to be in danger either. We wanna be very clear if someone commits a crime they should go to jail but these things are just disproportionate and there is no disrespect I do not want Okay Alright, so this was said on a panel with I believe owner Robert Kraft from the NFL and then we saw us speaking on this is back in January actually This is before he signed an NFL deal And nobody really said anything about this But once he signed the NFL deal then it became very relevant Of course as you know with the cancellation crowd to cancel culture

04:53 Um, they start to dig up past clips statements. Uh, and then they try to weaponize against you. This is what happened? So let me tell you how this is received from the woke crowd and that it's just kind of for the no agenda listeners. This has kinda dimension a dimension B kinda thing. Okay. Uh, so let's say dimension woke dimension woke heard this as Jay-Z justified police shooting young black men because they had, they were raised by single mothers. Yeah okay I can see how they come up with that of course it's people see this movie with different eyes from different dimensions correct and then you have on the other side

05:43 And I just let everybody know in my position, that I'm a straddler. Because you know, I can understand both sides of it and that's what gives me a unique perspective on the other side of is the more conservative black crowd and they say Of course yes we heard this in our previous what two shows ago with the Prager Prager you Yep Yes That They're all about single parenting leads to the violence and disarray, and these kind of things. And it's like a one-to-one correlation which is also incorrect so this is where I come in but what he said is somewhat correct because when you don't have authority in the household and this is where this whole show is gonna go we're gonna do some background into how houses became single parent because we touched on the topic but we never really got in depth on the subject

06:43 But before we get into it, I want to go back to one of the clips I played before talking about the two thought patterns or schools of thought driven by think tanks, and that's Trick Baby. It's you liberals who have lifted them up Howard. Paul you conservatives make a mistake! You can't afford to strangle hope in people without hope people become dangerous No Howard, you liberals have let them invade our society. You give them jobs political jobs Oh you missed the point it's only the smart ones we move out That makes it even worse

07:21 Oh, you know we have to move them up. If we leave a smart one in the ghetto he might develop into a leader against us but if we raise him up into white society... We neutralize it! He feels compelled to try and act like us He loses his identity and, uh... His racial anger. If he has any. He becomes alien to his brothers! They realize that he sold them out and they grow to hate him! He becomes worthless for them And safe for us No thank you In fact in his love of the creature comforts except for its color He's become one of us Oh a lovely dinner Mortimer Always a good time chatting about the black man

08:04 Right. So I played this clip so you can hear where Jay-Z is big, where people are saying Jay Z is at that he's been let into the club and now he's being neutralized and he's being, I've said this before and I don't know if I said it here on this show but I've said in my podcast This is Jay-Z taking this deal with the NFL. It's his Bill Cosby pound cake, pull up your pants moment. For people that don't remember that speech given by Bill Cosby he was like yeah they kill each other for some pound cake or something like that he was talking really

08:48 Down to the black community. Mm-hmm. That's how it was perceived, but it had good messaging in it But the tone and from where it was coming? It sounded very elitist Yeah, okay all this kind of fell apart a couple years ago obviously Right when he needed his community to back him And and this is just this goes that I think this is going to be encompassing have a lot of conversations we had on previous clips To be protected by the black community, you need to have an overwhelming majority just like with voting. You gotta have about 80-90% of the black community behind you because that makes enough noise to where you can use it as a tool to protect you either right or wrong. We've seen this with R Kelly we saw this with other people that has transgressions but they can drum up enough support that it makes them a hard target

09:44 But as soon as that support is fractured, then you become open game for anybody that wants to take you down. As Jay-Z is being done now by the woke community. I don't know what they're surprised about with this clip that he said because he said these exact same things in songs of his over the years multiple times but now that your target of council culture this where we at But what I want to talk about more is the conditions of a single parent home in this show, how we got there. How we really got there like the step by step when we talked about the no parent in the house and excuse me, no man in the house and things that nature but we never really

10:37 dug down and this is a huge problem in the black community. And I think it was even number one on the progress list if I'm not mistaken, it was top three at least but let's get into so this is a conspiracy to destroy black boys. Let me see how the book that was written This is something that my both my parents were educators and his book floated around Because there was passed around I think between black teachers, and I'm gonna get the man's name. I had it in my notes but Boys I'm doing this on the fly. I was actually already googling this Jawan's kunjufu kunjufu that's him yes correct And he wrote two books of his to volumes to this and he basically goes and this is back in 1980

11:37 Bob tonight's in this new clips are from 1987. I think the books was written a couple years beforehand Yeah, it looks like 1983 when first came out three yeah Oh This is at the time when I'm a small boy and I remember these conversations being had my parents have used to have these Conversations at the dinner table of just like oh How we're being raised and with me saying my older, I'm the youngest so they have the conversation with my older siblings. And I remember some of these sentiments that were shared in this book but let's get into a conspiracy to destroy black boys one point when economy change family structure change there was more than love in his relationships. There was some money involved here are grandparents work the fields together head

12:23 had economic reason to stay together and so they did. In a factory, man works in factory woman takes care of children. Economic reason again to stay together but in this new economy where you now have women working just as much if not more than men You now hear women telling me I don't need you got my own job do what I want to do when I want to do it and we are now doing very well by ourselves Oh man that sounds familiar doesn't it? Yes, it sounds very familiar. And it's even been more telling in current times where we're at I think maybe a fourth iteration of he was talking about from the fields, agriculture to industrialization to now the computers, computerization so now I think we're like maybe

13:12 Automation, I think that may be the fourth. Yeah what we're at now and we're seeing even more because men don't need women and women don't need men At this time because every service that you need for the opposite sex there's a app for it now Almost everything yes Right i mean got door doors i mean for guys cooking cleaning i mean not to say that's the only thing but The critical things that you need to run a household, you can get those done by third party. And for women, take the... You see these handyman apps and was Angie's List? Yeah, Tackle all this stuff sure. So these things are he was saying into the future when he said this

14:02 But I don't want to belabor the point. Let's get into clip two. Now we have a lot of people making plenty of money and lonely that place money before family You see black men you wanna do what white men do buy their family house in the suburbs? Two cars and once again go down to Orlando for Disney World vacation And when black men can't do that, they don't feel they're worthy enough to stay All right and be as a black man, this is true. We don't want anything different than the average white man or any other man in America you know we want the house, the two cars... Yeah, the vacation to Disney of course! Right but when you can't provide those things in this capitalistic society you feel worthless

14:55 And when you feel worthless, it's up to the woman to decide if you have any value or not. So let's listen to clip three. Now see the problem is there are two responses black women can give to black men when they're out of work now that first response some women say is well, you ain't working and you gotta go If you ain't working You gotta go That's a mistake because black men don't hire nor fire Nor control the means of production Now, before black men say that's right brother you tell them please brothers quit assuming that black women took our jobs away because black women also do not hire nor fire. We are being played off against each other for some crimes." Well that's quite the allegation. So how did you receive it? Completely as if black men and women are

15:51 Helpless and do not control their destiny. So this is how I received in this while like having this conversation with you because as we've seen you can have one statement receiving multiple different ways just by perspective, of course I'll receive that as if you have to have a certain number of black people in the office Say, you know We talked about affirmative action just say it's at 10 13 percent right? Mm-hmm what I want Just speaking from how black people see it, and I mean we're always conspiratorial because of the things that have been levied against us throughout the past. So we have a conspiratorial vein in us. So if that 13% was majority men had to be men because women weren't in the workforce in the 50s 60s you know saying maybe even up to early 70s when you start seeing the same amount of black faces but less man

16:56 that's being perceived as the black woman are taking your jobs. Ah, okay well I can understand that i see how that perception would be there and who knows some of it may be true certainly back in the day when this was playing out And there's a underlying reason for that because, A black woman is a double minority. What I mean by that is you kill two birds with one stone because you bring in a black woman and you can check the box of a female... You get extra points! ...and a black person. If she has a hump then I think there's a third, so you get an extra point. Sorry. So now we see

17:40 It's not that the elite or whoever is doing the hiring or whatever are pro black women. Is just that we can mask ourselves in these double minorities as we've seen with the NFL has been claimed, the fact that we're racist or whatever, whatever it is you want to be labeled as. Right which is what we kind of certainly how I view this deal with Jay-Z is like hmm okay just when there's a lot of heat on political supporters of Republicans specifically Trump We've had big donors being called out we saw Equinox and the soul cycle

18:31 We saw people getting really upset with the owners because they supported Trump and my feeling has always been NFL's like, let's get out ahead of that and let's bring in Jay-Z. Call Jay Z! Right. And it's cynical to think that, but it seems so true doesn't it? So if you think that way with Jay-Z why wouldn't people think the same way and we got to understand the climate We're talking in early 1980s Yes of course This is not that far removed from when you had a workspace of mostly men Oh right on yes So we have to look at this in its proper time context

19:09 But let's go into conspiracies 2.1, we can look at some mothers and I said son not all the rumor is that some mothers raise their daughters and love their sons my boy always loved his mom 40 years of age still went home with you that needs to stop your boys not yours he is a future husband a future father and needs to be raised that way now notice there are reasons historical reason is our society always try to destroy black men the lynchings So black mothers always wanted to overprotect their sons. But what's the reason today? Is it because your own black man didn't stay, you now replaced your man with your son? Quit telling these nine year old boys they're the man of house! Ain't no nine-year-old boy ready to be no man of house You know what sad though these brothers think but they can do with their mamas They can do with a teacher and coach and everybody else

20:04 Yeah, now let me just I have some experience with this after years of therapy It's called emotional blackmail and it's often not intentional and probably is never intentional Say similar to me where oh you're the man about the house now Now you got a you've got to take care of stuff and take care of me. And it can it can cause damage down the line I think so. I think that's very true, so how we got from the first set of clips is... That first group of clips was to explain how the man was removed from the home So now we're at the point where The man's out of the house We've gone over that multiple times before How-how the mechanism was used and we know this comes from governmental

20:55 decisions to remove the man, and we see how it trickles down. Now the woman has the male child standing in the gap for the man that has left home. And as you said that they start to put responsibilities on that male child that shouldn't be there and that male child is also given free reign or what's the word I'm looking for? He was given abilities or allowances to do whatever he feels or sees fit. Yeah, privileges. Privileges that's the word I'm looking for and that's it yeah so it goes back to Jay-Z statement when he encounters if he's treated as a man or the authority figure at home and he's not made to be show any respect to authority figures

21:58 When he encounters that police officer, he's not prepared. He's going to have the wrong reaction. He is not prepared for that situation and that is where we... That's where we're at. So let's just listen to 3.2. See when the father is there, see it's something about a black man or father seeing this male his same size sitting on his sofa eating up all the food boy you gotta go! But see his daughter can stay as long as she wants but see the mother knows her daughter and so the mother you gotta go too? See mothers make

22:38 daughters go and fathers make the sons go. But when the father's not there, does nobody make the son go? Okay. Yeah right on so this is where we're at and if you notice majority of the problems in the black community happen with the black male why is that because they don't have the leadership the role models We saw that in the thing two shows ago when that the black cop was in the community and he said you got to give The kids the tough love. Mm-hmm And that's what

23:15 boys need. Your father keeps you in line, he lets you know life is not fair as one of my favorite lines on my dad, life is...fair is where they judge pigs. I gotta tell ya, I am happy your like 17-18 years younger than I am I'm really happy to hear that because i grew up with life's not fair. Now my mom was the one who told me that, cause my dad wasn't around much...I hope it still being said because seems like with all the wokeness around us this may not be something that is repeated the way used to be

23:53 we're going to see that it's not. I'm ahead of the game, you always get ahead. All right so let's get into 3 point 1 and that is going to be a great segue. See my point is if black women...I am coming right to you If black women know what problems they have with their own black man why are they corrected with your son? See if you know what the problems are with all black men your little son That somebody else's husband all which you know needs to be done put that into your son Right. So if we've been a matriarchal society from maybe let's see the late to mid, the mid-to-late 70s that you say fair that's when it became 50% or more majority why hasn't why haven't women create demand the men their daughters would love to marry? I don't think

24:48 it's a fair ask to start off with. I think there is...I'm not sure that women can do that, I don't know if that is the way nature works even? I think I agree with you but If you say Okay, if you go back to Jay-Z statement and what he said about single parent woman can't raise a man We have said this multiple times before This is the pushback that he got. What do you mean? What do you mean a woman can't raise a man, so there's this fallacy

25:29 Well, yeah. Okay I totally understand what you're saying that and this is a part of woke culture where we're all completely equal the same there's no difference exactly and and that is just emphatically not true this this You know, I helped raise a daughter but you know if it was only me I would don't think I would succeed the way it would work with two with a two-parent household or maybe with just the mom I don't know but it's yeah the woke crowd will say of course you can do that and i think nature might tell us something different. It tells us very loud and clear but we ignore what it tells us, and we keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again and what they call that? That's called insanity by definition

26:20 You make a great point. I grew up in a house with two other brothers, my father and my mother no sisters so now having three daughters i'm lost right and if it was just me we need to stop having this conversation always blame the women blame them in know men and women have roles and responsibilities and they're exclusive to either sex When it comes to my daughters, I am completely lost. Completely! I'm sure you're not completely lost but i feel ya Trust me It's like...I need an interpreter from my wife that is like what does that mean? Like just a little anecdote You know but my oldest daughter which she'll be 16 in October can come walking in

27:12 And my wife can read from her mood what's going on. I just see her walking across the room! My wife would say, somethings wrong. That secret female code has nothing to do with age. I agree that goal to show you i have a deficiency but I accept that deficiency and I have to defer to my wife the same way with young boys You can't tell them everything is gonna be alright and life is fair everybody gets trophies. Yeah, you know We've seen this with the trophy culture No life has winners it has losers But you do have a win if you gave it your all and losers can we yeah of course right? so there's nuance there but

28:01 Now we fast forward, Madame Noir which is a popular website for black women and in my viewpoint it propagates a lot of liberal slash feminist ideology. And let's listen to them raising black boys. That's an important answer, both of you guys just talked about legacy and the future did you all plan to be mothers? Absolutely not! I was a teacher well i'm a teacher and I think that was my philosophy is I'm a teacher so I don't have to have kids I'll take care other people's kids okay So like that was never in my mission to be somebody's mother because that's like

28:40 It's so much more intense because there is so much more responsibility. Because they're mine now, I really can't mess it up. I don't think anyone plans to be a mother or parent You are never prepared for that like nothing can prepare you for that There is no book No book We have a very... Hmm Okay, I agree with some of what I heard though But she hurt twice in this clip Okay, let me I did a poor job setting this clip up. So this is a panel discussion It's like six women on the panel the moderators are man and he's asking questions about raising children black boys specifically And you heard twice in this clip no one not some people This is their mindset that no one plans to have children Yeah No, I don't disagree with

29:34 No, but it was said twice. And out of six people and the moderator nobody pushed back against it actually they you know if you saw the video they were like yeah Well this begs the question do you feel that there's much less family planning going on? Yes! I... And just whatever happens happens is that what it is? I think that has a lot to do with it My problem and the reason why clip this was The acceptance of that This is a clip from 2018. You would think if you're thinking single parent households plague black women at a 75% rate, hit rate correct? Right. You would think that will be the most sensitive to planning parenthood

30:31 Yeah, and I would say because it was a panel if it had only been said once and people glossed over It'd be like okay. So all right but twice yes someone should have put their hand up Twice and then six people Nobody pushed back against it and to say no one didn't say like a lot of people or you know majority No one plans so that was very troubling to me So let's get into Just So Happens. When I was pregnant with my first son, and I'll never forget the CEO of my school her first words to me were oh but you're not married and what kind of role model is that for your students? Right she tried it And I had explained to her like you know I'm not married but that does not negate like the woman that I am or the man he is in a family we are about to create It just so happens this happened first

31:27 Out of wedlock. And she says, okay just to break down the clip a little bit. She says the CEO of her school which I think she means principal but that may be a new term for school, I don't know. What kind of school system? Right what kind of school it was but comes to her and say you know we look at to you to be some kind of role model to the kids so how is that going to be perceived and she pushes back like oh yeah she tried that with me right? Yeah

32:14 Which was weird. Well, I guess it's a thing otherwise she wouldn't have said it that way right so But what gets me is that you say you didn't from the previous clip She was one of the women that says no one plans this your peer and your supervisor come to you and say oh So aren't you a little worried? I mean and you say you catch attitude back saying Who are you to say this to me, but then you're going to say it just so happens. Right right right So what I'm saying is we create this environment and it's a privilege thing She got a chip on her shoulder about it It's a privilege thing that certain people are above reproach I know I made a...and I hate using this word..I made an unplanned

33:10 event. Let's say that. Well, well put diplomat you are. I'm navigating these waters but we won't tell your kids which one right? So you made an unplanned event appear and maybe I guess maybe they're older or more they seem to be more As I know, maybe I'm just assuming here asking you like what's going on? Did you think this thing through and let's be clear women have a bunch of options pre and post.

33:48 conception. If you don't feel like it's the right time or whatever, you have a bunch of measures but that's not here today and I'm going to get into that conversation but this person says they're above reproach like no! You can ask me that? We just gonna play it by ear see what happens and these are how a lot of these single parent households begin Which I just find a little bit troubling. Now, I can't say that I have listened to the same types of conversation from white women It may be very similar? I don't know... I think it is very similar and i think this is where you get the big pro-choice push from because no one's planning it! I don't think this is exclusive to any community

34:48 cultural thing of the day. Right, it's a generational thing and it's been you know this we're probably in the second or third generation maybe more of this being acceptable and we have ways of cleaning up mistakes if that's the word you want to use I try to avoid using that word but this is where we're at the conversation between these women further. And it's not like they don't know of the systematic plans that we discussed on this show previously. Well, speaking about children and family units studies come out to say there are more single black moms in this country than any other race

35:35 When it comes down to it, I believe that in a certain sense black people as a whole were aligned for family units to be divided. And I think that was done in a systemic way. caused a lack of worth for the black man. And he's very needed, you know? He is someone who is valuable. He is someone who needs to be in the home or that your young men need to look up too but I feel that systemically we were programmed to feel that we can do this without them vice versa things like that and it's unfortunate because its not accurate information in my opinion. Well thank goodness someone with half a brain on the panel... And they were all saying yeah yes! So they're aware

36:22 Yeah, it's not that we don't know the things I discussed in this show may be new to some people but in our community We know that there has been things set up because they're at their common barbershop beauty shop discussions So we know and now I just wanted to let people I just want to show that clip to say these people are not oblivious too the systematic plans of no man's house and things in welfare culture and things that nature. But they still fall in the same traps that are set up, and I don't understand why? Maybe it's because due to privilege you don't have to do any self reflecting. Okay, let me show you equivalent to black men. We know high blood pressure is one of the deadliest thing for black men right?

37:19 I guess, not aware. It is! Well calm down then Moe, calm down So salt is seen in the black community as deadly Deadly? You say you have a salt, oh yeah that salt's gonna kill you man. Your pressure man. You see this corrective behavior or mindset between men because like hey man it's all gonna kill you But it's everything of responsibility. But when you have a whole system set up to make people not

37:58 have responsibility because it benefits the system that set it up. That's the hardest thing to compete with and correct. Let's go on to Hardest Thing What do you think is the hardest thing as a mom in 2017 parenting? What are things you worried about most raising black children Did I have boys? Yes. I have two boys and how do I like prepare them for that life, for the stress and it's a lot of stress that i don't know as a woman because we have stress but we also can navigate circles a little bit better because they're women. Because you are women. And like how do I prepare you know for those moments when he comes home and something has gone awry in the street and he doesn't know how to deal with it right or

38:49 Wow, it's full of contradictions this panel. Thank you! I'm glad you realized that and it's like...I was listening to the thing like You know what the problems are but you continue to fall for them And imagine a young black boy growing up with this kind of chaos? I can't say any other word is mental chaos and there's a reason for that we're gonna get today Let me, disclaimer disclaimer I need a disclaimer. This is not a beat up on a certain segment of society show. I'm laying this all out and as you know always come back around at the end and we get the full picture but let's hang in there with me right people that may be ready to click the stop button or skip button just hanging there with me. That's right misogynist Mo on the microphone

39:54 got three daughters I mean oh no that doesn't count my friend some of my best friends are female Female. All right, so raising black boys fear It's hard to let them be free when we're fearful Yeah, cuz you know cuz my best friend all the time She said that boy be free. You know he won't take off his shoes Let him take off it is hard like for them to be free like When were a little fearful and I think that's the that's the tension of like I want him to grow I wanted to explore and try stuff out but like I'm I'm a little scared Wow Okay

40:34 So imagine you have a rumbunctious boy that wants to be a boy and you have nothing but this fear. Yeah, fear. Energy which I mean this is perception, it's just perception by thing women may be more fearful out of survival mechanism You know just through throughout time they have to be more concerned in that thing. And you have the, and that's what I was saying before about my wife her antennas are always up right? And what I do is come in and I calm like it's gonna be all right or you kind of put yourself between them and the threat

41:27 I think that's what men not to horn here, but I think that's the function of us and maybe it's why we die earlier. I don't know But we're always putting ourself between The threat and in the fear If your wife hears a knock at night you're the one who gets up and goes inspects did not knock right her antennas are up but you respond and I just used um as something that I just think that's how that works but we hear this thing called fear comes up and later on the clip was too long to clip but the talk yeah comes up now Adam I know maybe you may be aware of the talk can you tell me what that is yes uh the talk as far as i'm aware is when

42:14 And I think it's typically the parents, but it may just be the father or the mother. But whoever the authority figure is sits the young man down and I don't know if it's just men... certainly it would have to be, and says all right here's how you're gonna be perceived in the world. Here's what it's like to be black when you encounter... The top one of course is when you encounter the police here's how you act hands on top of the steering wheel yes sir yes officer You'd be polite because that will keep you alive I'm summarizing but I'm pretty sure that's about right And you can see how this aligns back

42:53 the cause of this conversation, the Jay-Z statement. That talk is not had so here's the two options you have as I'm saying a majority of black men raised in female dominated household either going to be extremely fearful or you have no respect for authority and I know there's a lot of gray in between that black and white but that is what your really left with Either you don't respect authority, you're gonna combat it or are you going to be so fearful that you live a life of anxiety? Inferiority mental anguish and things that nature. And this is why you need that common energy my dad had okay let's get into fast forward but So we've seen companies like Procter & Gamble

43:56 Yeah, I've seen this one. I make study of these types of commercials so I know what's coming next. I don't know how this sells soap or Clorox but Pratt and Gamble to talk Who said that? The lady at the store That is not a compliment Listen it's an ugly nasty word And you are gonna hear it Nothing I can do about that But you are not going let that word hurt you You hear me? There are some people who think you don't deserve the same privileges just because of what you look like. It's not fair, it's not! Remember you can do anything naked The difference is that you gotta work twice as hard and be twice as smart Come straight home after practice, you got your idea? I guess they stopped ya

45:04 How's your review? We're good. Good, you see? Okay now when you get pulled over I'm a good driver. Baby don't worry this is not about you getting the ticket This is about you not coming home I'm gonna be okay right One of the many things that love about doing this show with you Moe Is even though I've seen this commercial I've studied what Procter & Gamble is doing You have ripped yet another layer of some kind of crap across my eyes. I'm like, oh man! I didn't even realize it was a mom talking to her daughter? So could not be any further from perhaps the actual talk as... As i've heard of it A father and son or parents and son And what was missing from that commercial Dad Not a single one in the whole two minute commercial Wow

46:10 Stunning stunning. Yeah, let that sink in and that So you think out of eight moms maybe in the commercial just by percentages? You should at least have two dads Wow at least one not a single dad And you know not a single one. You know what but I you know coming from the advertising industry, I think The reason why you're seeing that in this commercial is first of all just like Gillette I think these companies are full of shit They want to sell soap or they want to sell razor blades or whatever who does the shopping? It's the mom So they're targeting moms. They're not targeting any goodness their targeting moms and

46:52 And that's what it is. It's trauma-based advertising, is what it is. Now does that... Has that already been? That's a good one. Trauma based TBA baby! Yeah, we have trauma based entertainment as he said 12 Years A Slave, these shows all these movies coming out but now we're starting to cross over into the advertisement realm True exploitation So as you've seen The Father Is Missing So we're going to go back to one last clip from the Mountain Dewar panel. Engage.

47:34 Black men, they need to engage. Engage with your children not only like take them to the movies no engaged like play Enjoy your children No matter what their circumstances are enjoy your children because that's what they remember Okay They remember you playing basketball with them They remember you riding bikes with them They remember that and it sticks with them. Engage, enjoy your children. Yes I agree So now you have a mother telling her father how to be a father You're not doing it right numbnut Right But the problem with that is And its very seldom talked about Fathers are second class citizens Or second class parents in this country

48:29 Now and I just want to pause there in our country indeed. This is because I'm a student of advertising Every single especially if it's a white guy, that's even better every single ad where there's a dad he's always a doofus He's a numbnut he got the wrong shopping list. He didn't do it right? He brought the wrong cars got the wrong clothes on that is a cultural thing across-the-board That's been going on for years now It is, if you look at modern family. Another fantastic example! But that is propaganda people don't understand these television shows just like I once brought up before about Merritt with children that shaped the culture for that time

49:18 Dad was useless shoe salesman. Now you fast forward, now dad like I said dad's just a... Dad is basically an idiot ATM. You know he just kicks out the money and if but why he has to be that way? And thats a great, Im glad you brought that up. We used to, I love when we do this! It's because fathers don't have any rights in this country. A woman can have removed from her household for any reason whatsoever at any time separates you from the children for no reason at all. That's why the dad has to be such a...

49:56 Pansy yes, I want to use another word but yeah. Yeah and and I'll tell you that Certainly when it comes to divorce and separation and Europe is worse They are in fact they are so much evolved their way ahead of us on that The dad is automatically pretty much the loser you got to prove that you're not Yeah It's cultural across-the-board And I blame advertising on end and I just put television entertainment into the advertising category there All right, let's get into second class parents. Because then he told me he was going to take Lila with him at 1.30 in the morning, I had no- Just a second! So you said if i'm gonna leave my house If you're telling me to leave the house, I'm gonna take my daughter with me Even though I have sole legal custody of her? No you don't! Yes I do At that point are you telling me you had a court order giving you legal custody Of your child The answer is NO

51:06 So at that point, you know the mother, he's the father. He has as much right to take that child as you do? That's not what I've been told, but- Well if you've gotten different advice, you were mistaken. Okay! In this country fathers are not second class citizens. I know there are a lot of people out there including judges and probation officers who still don't get that message but fathers are not second class citizens sometimes they're actually better parents Not always Sometimes it's 50-50, but it's on a case by case basis. But anybody that says to me can't take my daughter with them It's not yours Oh Man there's so much about this first. That's judge Judy right?

51:49 That's Judge Judy. Saint Judge Judy! Well I gotta tell you a couple things first of all the child is always yours when the child has done something shitty it's like your daughter has done this and that and that's universal, and nice i think i would still get that if my kids were small enough to be in that much trouble second When I was in college for all three months in West Virginia, Ty Hamilton was my roommate and there's three things that his... because we all hang out. We're in the same dorm room Three things we'd watch on television and his buddies came over All black, you have to mention that Football of course Basketball, so it is sports let's put it that way Golden Girls And Judge Judy

52:38 And I was like, wow you really like this show. Judge Judy big favorite amongst the black men! I don't know if that was just that time but i'm like wow maybe because she's fair She she's fair and that's all we ask for is fair even though it doesn't exist but I mean she's one of the fairest things that it can be But I'll use this clip to illustrate The privilege the mother felt in this case was, what is my daughter? She said it. I have sole joint custody and judge you were like wait a minute Have you went to before judge and got that right now? Yeah But I have soul joint custody Wow and so cultural misunderstanding huh You take that mindset

53:28 And then you multiply it by a group of people that haven't got the most fair shakes with the justice system. Right? And now, I know a lot of people that have been through family court and your best case scenario is that you pay a chunk of your salary out and we're going to discuss how this calculate a little later on Two days out of every 14. Yeah, it seems so standard yeah So to go back the woman's like engage engage with your child How can I engage when you you know no? marginalize me To being a fourteen oh one two or two days out at every fourteen day parent and you use

54:28 family court system as a weapon. Now I am not a white supremacy denier, and the reason why say I'm not is this is a clear case that appears to be white supremacy. Do explain now we go back to man in the house law correct? No man in the house law This has been the tool to further and I use word before marginalized dads But when you have dads that fall below the poverty line, they can't hire good lawyers to fight for their rights in court. Black and brown men don't get a fair shot or a just shot in family court. So what but when you say white supremacy, you imply that there may be a misunderstanding but you imply that there is a systematic

55:31 plot to disenfranchise black men and I personally think it's poor men and it may have come from black men but you think that is still alive and well today? And thats being done specifically for someone's color. Someone's color, okay...I want too-and the thing here is the thing about white supremacy. I think its about maintaining Rulership and this is about elite. It doesn't have to do with every white person that's the thing all our conversation had to been about the elite, The conversation between two men of how to handle the black race were between the elite. Okay I got you i'm with ya So that's why it's not... That's why you had to be very careful with those words white supremacy because

56:32 It's about people that are in rulership, maintaining rulership and what is the predominant race of people in rulership? White. That's my point I'm not saying it's amongst all white people Let me approach from a different direction just so we can get some context Okay And thank you for going into that I would say if you look at the black population as a voting block to be controlled or black women as a force that you want to control, then yes. I think that is absolutely in play and we see it in play today with the current people who are running for the Democratic nominee and others. It's all over the spectrum

57:24 from that regard, then I would say yeah. Everything is being done to control the black population to maintain their voting block and status quo right? And I want to be clear what i'm saying here The motive is to maintain some rulership Yes So we have to do these things to maintain it It's not like racial cabal of like, you know what I'm saying? Of all spectrums of economic background. Now it is like oh we might have some friendly fires and casualties the white men fall to a family court but so be it! I think that's how the elite think that's just my personal opinion. Well I guess the only reason I'm saying this I know plenty of white families and white guys who have been in similar situations poverty was really was really the issue

58:21 That's why I'm like, okay. Why would someone if you're just saying? Okay here are the blocks Here's black people is poor black people. He's poor white people Here's women here's men and from an elite standard up at the top. I'm looking to you George Soros I would want to control all those people one way or the other no matter what it takes And you know, I got a funny in this This is just my personal viewpoint on opinion. This is this is a opinion I think the elite look at poor white people and say, hey you had all the benefits and you can't make it work. You don't deserve to live. And we've seen this how they looked at eugenics. Eugenics wasn't across color lines. It was so like I said if it you may have some casualties of the same race but I think that they looked as a

59:16 whittling or as a way to get rid of the bottom in their own race. And then we got it kind of getting off topic, but I just want to show you that when people they use that word so loosely did now it just has no effect But those two gentlemen having that conversation in the clip we played before, even though it's in a fictional movie. That is a form of supremacy. No that was 100% supremacy and so yes and I will...

59:56 When you threw in the white supremacy, you threw me off a little bit. I know! But i understand what your saying and it has only been about 50 years since eugenics was alive and well and recognized as such, and was specifically targeted at Africans. That's even how they spoke about it the dumb Africans running around we got to control them so to think that that legacy went away in 50 years would be stupid. But not only Africans because poor whites in the South were judged by this saying I mean they set the IQ to say this is the line

1:00:40 Yeah, correct. Now whoever falls under it you know we'll set the testing methods and if some of our people you know it's for the greater good and like I said I don't want to segue off into that but I'm just telling you to me if you want to use that word not in terms- Not in the terms that we think of it in pop culture I got you. If you want to talk about white supremacy, that's your shining example? Yes! That was the point i was making. This is one of the cases where words have changed definitions like racist or... Yeah it almost means nothing anymore. So this will be the picture and a definition if you want to define something in that way. But let's just get back on track

1:01:28 and see this privilege in action, in joint custody gone wrong. This is a little bit of long clip but it's important. Y'all can hate each other as ducks but y'all better act nice and lovey-dovey like everything else when you're around that little boy I'd rather not hear either of you saying anything negative about the other party or y'all gonna get a little treat from the Durham County Band of Breakfast for contempt of court And there is no appeal. You stay till I say you get out of here. I'm talking to both of you, am I clear? Yes. I have no doubt that you've withheld a little more than me. Don't you do look at me like that. I have not withheld. If you say one more word... I have not. ...you're going back in the dark alley and being breakfast of death!

1:02:29 I have to know she's got 24 hours of contempt before running her mouth as soon as we get done with the set. Don't you leave this court with your attestment? She's got 24 hours, contempt before running her mouth and I've no good shit. So you got 20 fliers in the Durham County Democrat project. He ran your bathroom, I told you to decline it. All right? You've got 48 hours. We were standing each. You've got 48 hours back there. You have your hard work. You've got 48 hours back here. Every time he opened your bathroom, we'll tell him another 24 and if he opens your bathroom again, slammed into you. Both parents of fit and proper persons have custody of their child under joint custody

1:03:14 Just take me in. I can't do this. This is a disgrace! What you guys are doing, you need to let it go! I'm not going to be a judge. Yeah, that was hard to listen to. I'm like- I wanted to set that up a little better so just to give people what was going on there you have two... A wife and her husband going through joint custody hearing this is in my hometown of Durham North Carolina it was funny though i felt this cloud white wow uh and you see she had no respect for the judge

1:04:12 And he told her, you have any contempt? And just to give a little background. He was like if any of you guys say anything I'm gonna find out your contempt and you're going to do 24 hours in jail. The lawyer for the guy said yes and then the female's lawyer tell her to say yes and she was like yeah. As soon as she was losing control The apparatus that was set up for her to have power and control over the family and the man, you saw her go apeshit. Excuse language. Even though she was going to jail as soon as that judge said joint custody... That's when she lost it. So you ask why- It's a privilege possessive thing? It is a privilege. Yep! It's a privilege AND

1:05:09 9 times out of 10, the rulers come out in their favor but I think judges are getting more aware and also the child support system is becoming more aware because recalculations are being done. So let's get into changes to the Illinois Child Support. Child Support would be based upon a percentage of that parent's net income and depending upon how many children support was being paid for, the percentage would go up for example it would be 20% of that parents' net income for one child 28 percent for two children 32 percent for three children 40 percent four children an on-up

1:05:48 and it did not take into consideration the income that the custodial parent made. Illinois was in the minority, and I have not checked to see for sure how many states have gone to Income Share but i think 40 of the 50 somewhere in that area use an Income Share model which is what Illinois now is using since July 1st this year under that system child support is calculated looking at the income, the net income of both parents and there's a chart that is used to determine what a child should receive by way of support from

1:06:27 parent A making X number of dollars and parent B making X number of dollars, and then you determine what that joint support obligation should be. And then that obligation is divided between the parents based upon their relative income so if you've got a parent that makes 40% up there total net income and the other parent making 60 percent of their total net income That support obligation would be paid by forty percent by one parents sixty percent by the other And it is felt to be fairer because it's based upon both parents' incomes as opposed to just the non-custodial parent. Yeah, such a head scratcher that that wasn't already the case! Also later in the clip how much the child spends with each parent factors into this as well but it just wasn't clippable to include that little caveat so now you see when you have joint custody

1:07:22 means equal burden, equal yeah. Equal burden so there's no monetary benefit you have no control over the child time-wise and we've seen this in my community the black community that child support has been used as a weapon against the black man oh yeah oh yeah So this is a popular youtuber Danika Marie and she discusses that point look Child support should not be used as a weapon. Child support is exactly that, money that is utilized to support the child Not money that's held over somebody's head That doesn't want to be with you anymore

1:08:12 Not money that is used to hold somebody hostage in a dead end relationship. Not money that is being taken away from somebody that is already financially and physically contributing to their child's life So please can we grow the hell up and stop using our children as pawns and child support is some sort of insurance policy scare tactic and financial weapon if I may from personal experience when I got divorced Our daughter was 18 but she was still living at home

1:08:54 The system that jumped into play with my ex-wife was immediately, he's gonna pay for everything. We're gonna clean him out! Hah! And all of that was through... and it was the lawyer lawyers were all over that pushing pushing pushing and actually made the whole process much worse than it ever had to be That's case in point but as she said when you have a scorned woman And she's been, she's made aware of what her rights and privileges are. Or if she has perceived what her rights and privileges are Right? She can use it as leverage against the man Yes They use the child as leverage against the man! We've seen that in recent news story with a popular basketball player named DeMarcus Cousins Now He makes more than enough money

1:09:56 So money is not an issue to him to pay child support. But visitation is also a part of this and the child being withheld, so let's look at former warrior Senator DeMarcus Cousins former dub star DeMarcus Cousins in a bit of hot water tonight. That's right, he is accused of threatening to shoot the mother of his child. Our Elizabeth Cook in the newsroom she has the latest for us Liz Yeah Ken and Veronica the NBA is investigating these allegations against DeMarcus Cousins The all-star Lakers center is accused of threatening his ex girlfriend during an argument about whether his son should attend his wedding And the ex girlfriend says she has the audio to prove it

1:10:39 Cuz. No, he's not coming. Now, Cousins allegedly made the threats over the phone on Friday one day before his wedding. Now according to court documents obtained by ESPN, Cousin's ex-girlfriend is seeking a restraining order against him in addition to threats made in the leaked audio she alleges that cousins had previously choked her. So I'm not defending DeMarcus Cousins or his actions anything. I'm trying to use this as an educational point here now background on Demarcus Cousins

1:11:21 He has had two dramatic injuries back to back years that has been impacted his earning capability. He was set the sign some God, ungodly amount of money maybe 150-200 million dollar contract right? But before he signs it, he blows out his Achilles. Yeah. He fights through that. He comes back the next year and he signs a small little small deal then he blows out his ACL Just to put you in the mental state of what a person is going through. So then he wants his son to come to this wedding, another woman that he's marrying and the mother says no, he can't come. Just giving background because when you hear these stories you don't get their perspective just to give some further black background not only does DeMarcus' cousin take care of her child He is very giving person to other children as well

1:12:23 New at nine tonight, 100 local children got the shop till they dropped in Mobile today. And it's all thanks to NBA star Demarcus Cousins he put on his seventh annual Santa Cuz holiday shopping spree. Tyler fingered is live in the newsroom tonight with that Tyler great fantastic day for the children who enjoyed it. Yeah Steve these kids from five mobile elementary schools were given 200 bucks and target gift cards so they could shop for the holidays though once we talked with say they got a lot of good gifts. So I'm just illustrating you got a guy going through life changing traumatic experiences, monetary loss he has a background of being not only giving to his child but other children seven years running He's done this donation thing right? Yeah But us Oh his one is mother whose child

1:13:23 withholding his child from coming to the wedding that he's about to marry another woman. Yeah, it's what happens in divorces across the board children are weaponized in this and the reason why I'm bringing this up is not defense DeMarcus Cousins but I am highlighting how the family court system is setting women up to be harmed by men that are put through such mental anguish. That they can lose it? That they can lose it, you-you can go search on YouTube Google man shoots woman after custody hearing man shoot... You know, you see it over and over again but its like the prescription drug thing It's like oh just a crazy man that shot his girlfriend or ex wife or mothers child They never get to the root

1:14:16 Root cause of what it is and I'm saying this to say this to protect women you're giving them a Perceived privilege or leveraging tool over men which is very dangerous To do that's very dangerous to a man, especially a man. It loves his kids and If you're saying, you know, you never see your kids again. You don't know what that does to a man's mental state and mental health in this country as we see it can end up in violent acts over and over again but we never really get the trigger and see how we can resolve the trigger for even happening That's why I brought this up not to be a defense of anybody because first of all you should always maintain your cool And I say them in second of all

1:15:08 You have to expect this. Like you said, going through a divorce you gotta expect these things that happen so never lose your cool control what you can control now fast forwarding to now you may have asked oh did this situation of single parenthood and the black community happen we've looked at one side of it from being pushed down through No Man in the House but there's also a marriage between feminism and civil rights movement. Feminism, when feminism arose in the 1960s it was different for women of every kind because women had never thought of themselves these white women as a particularly disadvantaged group As far as black women were concerned

1:16:03 the overlap between the women's movement and the civil rights movement caused some confusion. Black people were trying to get their arms around what it meant to bring change in this country, and here come a large group—a much larger group who are not necessarily black, in fact we're white who are trying to do the same thing. And it really took some leadership on the part of some black women, and they ought to be understood—who understood they were both black and women! It took that kind of leadership

1:16:45 to engage this confusion, to understand this confusion. To deal with this confusion within the community when a straight out civil rights activist and leader of women's movement like Gloria Steinem, this gorgeous white woman comes forward and talks about feminism she is still the very best But it is very hard for black women to identify with her initially. I have to disclaim here, I've met Eleanor Holmes the non-voting representative from the District of Columbia and I've observed her. I find you to be an incredibly dishonest full of shit person but that has no bearing on what she said here but i'm not a fan of Eleanor Holmes

1:17:40 So yes, that's our representative Eleanor Holmes Norton and she speaking on how the civil rights movement was hijacked basically. And you heard her used by the feminist movement and you heard her use the word confusion. Confusion! And that was steered by one and only Gloria Steinem Adam what can you tell us about Gloria Steinem? First of all, my mom loved her which is so that this coming up right now is doing all kinds of stuff to my brain As did my mom. Yeah As the mama reason why I say that mama and we came from a very weird back I'm not interrupt you but just the Cosign what she's saying? My mom was a bra-burning

1:18:35 feminist of that time. She fell into the propaganda that was being put forward, but continue with your point. Well I'm just trying to think back because you know when i think of Steinem and I think of Jane Fonda... Now I was pretty young but she doesn't I'm not getting much trying to recall other than my mom was totally into her. I could feel the tension around that but No, I don't have much of course know who she who she who she is what you represented But I don't have so she was a big-time proponent for feminism at the time and also She empowered Alice Walker

1:19:31 For the people that don't know who Alice Walker is, she's most famous for writing the book The Color Purple. Ah! Oh of course of course of course Her writing is activism and her activism is writing so there's really as it's not possible to separate Alice from her work She's... Of anybody I can know or have ever known or could possibly imagine she's the most true you know I mean, when people used to ask me in the early days what is Alice Walker really like? I always said she's exactly like you think. You know there is not a private self and a public self Now the reason why I say my mom loved Gloria Steinem Is because Alice Walker gave her her cosign To the black community

1:20:25 Or you can look at it another way, Gloria Steinem empowered Alice Walker to become the person she was on the level that she was into in the public eye. So as I said before, Alice Walker, she's most famous for writing Color Purple When I first saw Color Purple as a young child, to be honest with you that movie was shown to young children because it was one of the preeminent black movies. Just from the storytelling and it was done by Steven Spielberg and you had never seen a black movie done on that level

1:21:09 I think it was really cutting edge at that time, but just with the cinematography and no just of what it was. It's a great movie of course But when I go back and watch it with my adult eyes, it was very manhating And I know that term is thrown around by the MGTOW community in these things and anti-feminist community What reason why say there is not a single positive black Male figure in that movie right at all either they were child abusers pedophiles Oh the top ten yeah Domestic violence rape Kidnappers, I mean like

1:22:08 Exactly. At all! So, like I said and when i watch this movie now with my adult eyes I'm like Jesus Christ it's trauma based entertainment. And I'm talking about women watch this thing on repeatedly. Even to today you know they can quote that thing in my community you can quote it line for line and that's how successful propaganda is Now, with that said Alice Walker her daughter came out and did an interview in Daily Mail. And just a couple quotes from the interview she said you see my mom taught me that children enslave women I grew up believing that children are millstones around your neck. And the idea that motherhood can make you blissfully happy is is a complete fairy tale

1:23:06 This is how this woman propagandized her own child. Another quote, my mother's feminist principle colored every aspect of my life as a little girl I wasn't even allowed to play with dolls or stuffed toys in case they brought out an internal instinct These are quotes from Alice's Walker's daughter And like you said and when you go back to that clip Gloria Steinem said what there was only one Alice Walker, so she However, she was in the media. Yeah, it wasn't private She was that way in private another quote from her daughter It was drummed into me that being a mother raising children and running at home were former slavery

1:23:55 Can you see how this was played out in her work for color purple? Oh, yeah that was given to the world and Propaganda is my community and saying and still it still comes on BET women BTL almost every other Saturday. Final quote Wow my mother may ask you me. My mother may be revered by women around the world goodness knows many even have shrines to her but I honestly believe it's time to Puncture the myth and to reveal what life was really like growing up as a child of the feminist revolution Really puts a whole new puts Oprah in a whole new light

1:24:40 In this project, who has no children. Right so now we see how these things keep getting pushed forward and if you ask any black feminist about Alice Walker she would have the same way that Gandhi It doesn't matter, like we've talked about before these icons. It's not about who they truly were. I mean this is her daughter saying this. This is not some... That's why always like to use quotes of people that are would be seen as fair and balanced. I don't like the use extremist quotes from one side or the other but now back to Gloria Steinem

1:25:20 Gloria Stiner had a very interesting beginning. Clip 24. Gloria, at the festival you worked for the Independent Research Service? That's right. Well exactly when did your own association with the CIA start and in what fashion? Did they come to you or did you go to them? In 1958 when I came home from India I discussed with student leaders past and present many of them active with the National Student Association. This kind of small foundation to encourage Americans to go, they thought it was a good idea too I was then told by foundations and professors and friends that if...that i should not do this that I would get in trouble with the House on American Activities Committee, The American Legion all of those

1:26:16 50s people. Uh, and I became convinced that it was impossible. It was at that point that the student leaders said to me that they had in the past received funds for international programs from the CIA and that they felt that this was important and could also be partly funded by the CIA. And there we go. Hello spooks now what now we know about Cohen's where on COINTELPRO We've seen how think tanks and government agencies have infiltrated movements as before. Why would I not believe Gloria Steinem was sent in to destabilize the movement that was going on called the Civil Rights Movement? Why would I not believe that now, like I said, I have a conspiratorial vein in me but when I hear this and you hear Alice Walker and you hear how she was put up and propped

1:27:20 Why would I not believe this? But let's listen to clip two. Particular points of view to put forward, which would have been much more restricting than the CIA funds were free and no one was told what to say. You mean they were free you mean it was easier for you to work for the CIA that a private organization That is right and the reason i think that comes as a surprise It did to me at the time. I mean, I had the conventional liberals view of the CIA as a right-wing incendiary group and I was amazed To discover that this was far from the case that they were enlightened liberal nonpartisan activists of the sort who characterized the Kennedy administration for instance, huh? I Didn't know this actually this is good

1:28:15 So I don't know what to say. To be honest with you, we have to look and see was this person sent to bring this message? Not only the black community as always said on the show, The black community are just the first to feel or to show the symptoms of what affects the greater population later we don't have that cushion. So when you see things like drug epidemics or propaganda being pushed forward, it always hits us first whenever recessions happen they always hit us first because we don't have the cushion to protect this but it goes on to impact everybody there's not

1:29:12 tied in with the elite. Now, the only problem I have with this and it's only lightly touched on in her Wikipedia page for good reason probably is the CIA is really not allowed to do these types of things on US soil you know that's really not their jurisdiction so I'm just curious and now I'll have to look into this more to see... Go ahead When I say these things that's just like I think you make connections with people with the movers and shakers. I'm not saying it came from headquarters to do this... I understand, there's a lot of different things. You swim in those certain pools? Yeah. They're like oh yeah Gloria go over here talk to this person you know do this kind of thing i'm not saying headquarter sent down like a memo say yo we gotta take them down. I think it doesn't work that way because the paper trail you don't want to work that way and

1:30:12 To say certain groups are all, we always say the elite are a group of many different small factions held together by common ideology. So I just wanna make that clear. So now we see where how we got to black women being feminist minded and I think it was an agenda push down from think tanks more, you know. Also we see the foundation of this is like a huge slab of cement now that you've brought Alice Walker into it's like oh okay whoa now and now we see a little broader in perspective

1:30:57 Right, she's the voice. She was the voice or the author of how you want to do it and like I said Color Purple was the greatest piece of propaganda maybe in acting on black people. Let me ask you Moe when you saw this for the first time or maybe the second or third time more recently what was your feeling? What was your immediate reaction to seeing this movie? Well Color Purple...I loved it! Loved it! You can go to any where a large group of black people are and say a line, and someone can finish the line for you. That's how openly accepted it was for... I mean it's just that when you start digging back layers and understanding who these people are who writes these things and what their agendas are, I saw in a total different light And I'm like man there's not one single part of man in the movie? Right

1:31:57 Not a single one. So, uh... Ding ding. Uh? Huh? Ding ding ding! Right so fast forward now we come back from the past back to the present and we have to see it's not only single mothers that are miserable but all mothers About a year ago as I was finishing my research on motherhood I came across The Feminine Mystique written by Betty Friedan in 1963 The title of the first chapter is, The Problem That Has No Name. As I read through the pages, I felt my heart bursting. I thought to myself every mom needs to know what's in these pages it helps give meaning to where moms were back then and where we still are today

1:32:52 Betty Ferdan was able to interview these mothers who shared with her that they felt unfulfilled, alone and ashamed to admit that they felt lost in the midst of motherhood. She called this the problem that has no name The spread into suburbia with its green lawns and large corner lots was isolating for moms Their worries over smallpox and polio were replaced by depression and alcoholism. Drug remedies, such as Mother's Little Helper promised relief from boredom unhappiness and anxiety Sure we've come a long way since the 1950s but the feeling of loneliness and lack of fulfillment is still the same today

1:33:47 So this is Cheryl Ziegler and she's at a TED Talks. And she show you motherhood in itself brings on a form of misery, loneliness and imagined experience. And it's Cheryl Ziegler is a happily married woman and she seems to be well off so she doesn't have the ills of financial problems I wouldn't just by perception And she's dealing with these things herself. So imagine going through that as a single mother? Well, yeah well this is societal... I mean this... So imagine doing that by yourself! You have to be the breadwinner and like i said This is where you know I take up for the moms Imagine these things That you experience having a husband Having money

1:34:47 Imagine going through that by yourself and money is an issue, and you're the sole breadwinner. But let's listen to clip two. 50 years later the problem that has no name is still with us it shows itself differently but it's still the same problem today we have the rabbit hole of social media that shows what all the other mommies are doing better than us if were a working mom We feel guilty. And if we're a stay at home mom, we feel judged. We second guess and stress over all the parenting decisions that we make and all too often we feel like failures and frauds." Wow! Now imagine that being compounded by being a single mother? Right If you stay at home your what she said if you go to work You feel guilty

1:35:50 And if you stay at home, you know, you feel judged. And who's judging? It's not men that are sitting around saying look at this... No it's other women of course. Or then she said about social media Who is doing this judge? Oh look at her brownies! You're saying I've never heard a guy say that to his wife Look at her brownie on her Instagram Why don't you make brownies like that? It's very sick that they set these criteria. And where I'm coming from is now, this is gonna be a very hot take. I am not for stay at home moms but I am for a stay-at-home parent. I think at least one parents should be at home

1:36:46 Very unpopular stance, Moe. In popular culture very unpopular. I didn't put it on a certain gender who needs to stay at home. The problem what happened is when you opened up 50% of the population into the workforce that made the worker less valuable Say that again? When you opened up 50 percent of the population Into the workforce that made the workforce more no worker more or less valuable. Oh, well nobody looks at it from angle right and I would be remiss not to say that single parent dads also have issues they're different and in fact maybe in some cases

1:37:39 single parent dad is viewed as heroic. Oh my god look at how great he is and it will always be judged to the positive right let me flesh out what I'm saying because I know a lot of people who got whiplash and what he said, What are you talking about? What I'm saying is workers should be paid enough where a single income can run a household oh well that would be nice yes it seems very difficult But if you look at the numbers from the time where women gain the right to work, what has happened to their income? Oh it's it's the same as 30 years ago. Right! So all they did was take this same salary and split between two people That's right so that's what I'm saying now If the dad wants to stay home, mom wants to go to work or if you want to be a single parent You can make enough to run your household by yourself

1:38:39 So this is where I'm coming to in this whole thing, is women going to work didn't benefit the family. It didn't benefit the woman it benefited that people that make decisions on the highest level you increased your work population by double so do you could pay them half if you don't agree with me Jessica Shortall She says how Americans, how America fails new parents. Just put the term working mother into any Google image search engine stock photo site They're all over the internet they're topping blog posts and news pieces And I've become kind of obsessed with them and the lie that they tell us in a comfort that they give us That when it comes to new working motherhood in America Everything's fine

1:39:28 But it's not fine. As a country, we're sending millions of women back to work every year incredibly and kind of horrifically soon after they give birth That's a moral problem but today I'm also going to tell you why it is an economic problem Okay well yeah there's a lot going on with young parents today And the main thing is that they are having dogs instead of children Do you blame them? No, and not enough. We've got this program I'm starting to think no no I can see the issues. I mean a little jaded and older That's why it's good to look at this And I ain't oh, I like to look at why Why are people accepting the fact that I rather have a dog than a baby and the thing is you have this and I'm speaking in generalis here folks so don't kill me

1:40:22 I think at certain point, humans have a need to give us certain kind of love to something. Something needs to fill that gap. We talked about the gap with the father missing. Sure. I think there's also a gap in our family where children are needed. Absolutely And what is being stuffed in that gap? Fur babies! Dogs! They're people Right, so and it's like everybody agreed. Yeah this is my child and okay yeah that's my child too because they don't want to be honest and say we have a gap here but society makes it so that we need both of our salaries to pay rent. No no its true I mean the number one complaint is cost. Is that can afford a child which you know I always put my caveats like ugh you know

1:41:13 A lot of very poor people have children and they get by, but you know it's so it's in a way it feels a bit elitist when someone says that. It's their own personal choice of course but I think the financial struggle is absolute when you talk... You're right! When you're looking at what cost of living is and you really need both people and both partners in the household working for the general masses. Yeah, it's of course it's much harder to think about starting a family and if we look at the listen to the previous clips everybody wants the lifestyle of what? The house, the picket fence... Two cars! ...The trip to Orlando Yes sir So and then you factor in social media like Sheryl Ziegler says And if you're not meeting that standard You feel like a failure

1:42:09 Yeah, see why don't think our people are age impacted by social media like that but new families and people in that range they subcum to To the pressures. They feel like failures because they can't have it all they can't have two vacations They can't have the house they can't have the two cars and a baby So it's like uh yeah which one can we replace? the baby Wow so But Bernie Sanders has a solution. Good evening, human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years The planet cannot sustain this growth I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians but it's crucial to face empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact

1:43:04 Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of the plan to address climate catastrophe? Well, I think the answer is yes. And... The answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America by the way have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions And the Mexico City Agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control. To me is totally absurd So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies

1:43:51 and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have. Something I very, very strongly support." Now that's your white privilege right there! That's the white privilege guy. I'm putting it all on Bernie! That's the other side of the conversation! That would be the other guy and go back to the conversation between the two gentlemen... that's the other solution Don't have babies Depopulation Yeah So I know I got out of order, but I wanted to set that clip up to set the final two clips. They say then this is what's sick about it they put all the pressure not on corporations to provide meaningful salaries to people or create a social safety net

1:44:47 you know, to help not even safety net but certain standards of corporations or whatever to pay people a meaningful salary. The reason why I say that is we all heard the stories yeah dad was the only one working and he could afford, you know, to pay for the kids to go to college, you're saying have retirement pension and still going on vacation where is that at now? Oh no what you're getting at I think is population control ie normalization of abortion, let's call it choice is being abused by elites to make sure we keep our worker pool cheap and readily available. Yep that's the whole point and it's the same means but just from two sides of the coin and it's that conversation between two hobnobbers who say hey I have a solution you know let's just make it so rough on them you know they'll be begging for depopulation

1:45:47 So that's where we're at. So, scared to wrap this up how America fails parents too. This working mother all working mothers and all of their babies are fine there's nothing to see here and anyway women have made a choice so none of it's even our problem I want to break this choice thing down into two parts The first choice says that women have chosen to work. So, that's not true. Today in America women make up 47% of the workforce and in 40 percent of American households a woman is the sole or primary breadwinner Our paid work is apart-a huge part of the engine of this economy and it is essential for engines our families on a national level are paid work is not optional Yeah

1:46:40 So here we are, one hand depopulation. On the other hand or you choose to have a child so suffer that's a hell of a choice to give a woman. Yes and then once again I go back to compound that with doing it by yourself Yeah, and we don't make it much easier by positioning the American- and I'm saying this is all about America's because that's really only the only thing we think we can speak to intelligently. And then add to that oh by the way? That guy he's worthless just look at him! Look him on television He's dumb. He's a goof. He's a goofball. He ain't really gonna help you yeah so um

1:47:26 I bring all these points up to say we're in a sick place. Well, the way i read it the only way we get out of it is actually with the help women Women are going to have to realize what's going on. They are without a doubt What you've shown here today is A lot of manipulation and control and although you hear the truth, and the real feelings coming through At the at the upper conscious level it's gone It's just like okay this is what I gotta do heresies And your right social media advertising plays right into all of that mm-hmm

1:48:08 And the other thing is that we haven't discussed is when you split a home up, you create twice the need to electricity bills, two gas bills, two rent or mortgages. Two everything So it's a sick place we're at. But this final clip, now Bernie Sanders and the lady said that we need to control populations but Miss Jessica Shorthall disagreed she said we need the population to survive let's listen what she says. Choice number two says that women are choosing to have babies so women alone should bear the consequences of those choices

1:48:48 You know, that's one of those things that when you hear it in passing can sound correct. I mean...I didn't make you have a baby! I certainly wasn't there when that happened but ummm.... That stance ignores the fundamental truth which is that our procreation on a national scale is not optional The babies that women many of them working women are having today will one day fill our workforce protect our shores make up our tax base Our procreation on a national scale is not optional. That's correct, but depopulation is the answer somebody lying here so you can't have it both ways and I'm willing to believe Jessica more than I lean to believe Bernie Sanders in the deep population crowd because we need people

1:49:38 Well of course throughout this entire what almost two hours I've, you know Planned Parenthood is just running through my brain. You know where do they fit in and we haven't really brought it up we don't have to necessarily but the thank you for doing this because the conversation that the nation is having is about And you know, of course with Kavanaugh and all this and Trump in general it's all Roe v. Wade and it's all about choice choice choice but you never hear the conversation that goes deeper and that looks at what the real effects are or the real necessities or the real need and why is your choice talking to women why is your choice so incredibly important to be looked at from multiple angles instead of just

1:50:30 here's what I want, here is what i don't want. Right down to what Jessica Shortall said there with and of course if we're not making 2.3 average children per couple eventually you have no country left that is of course what happens and then we could go on for another hour about what immigration in certainly illegal immigration does the equation etc etc it's thanks Moe! I don't think I can sleep tonight now That's my aim. Well, good job my friend! I'm looking forward to where we're gonna go next week with all this. I'll go where the stories take me. Yeah i know well you are a great researcher Mo. This is fantastic what an enjoyable show for...I liked it

1:51:22 And you did and of course we disclaim that you know, we didn't consult any women for the show and that's that's on us But we look forward to their feedback. We sure do mo facts comm is where you can always find the latest episode where you can also Send your feedback and importantly you can support the program if you enjoyed the past hour in 52 minutes What's that worth to you? You know, what else do you spend your money on for two hours? That's how we would like to be rewarded if you're so inclined. MoFax.com And of course when I saw this song as the outro song, I knew... Ha! I knew kind of what were gonna talk about and this is a weird one this song because

1:52:10 The date that's mentioned right off the top is the 3rd of September, which is my birthday. Which takes me into a whole other head spin about this song Wow I know it's trippy right? Hey Moe thank you very much man This was fantastic had a good time All right, same here Adam and as I always tell everybody pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself That's right. Mo facts with Adam Curry this is episode 6 we will return Most likely next Monday again mo fax commas where you can find out all the information and support the show Until next time everybody. I'm Adam curry for me and mo fax Take it easy

1:52:56 It was the third of September, that day I'll always remember. Yes I will, cause that was the day my daddy died I never got a chance to see him Never heard nothing but bad things about him Mama, I'm depending on you Tell me the truth Mama just hung her head and said son Papa was a rolling stone Well, of course he's home And when he died, oh, left his woman

1:53:43 I heard Papa call himself a jack of all trades Folks say papa would beg, borrow steel to pay his bills. Hey mama! Folks say Papa never was much on bankin'. Spent most of his time chasing women and drinkin' Mama I'm depending on you to tell me the truth Mama looked up with a tear in her eye and said son

1:54:42 Well, well, well, well.