Saturday, 14 March 2020

29: The Rona

Global lockdowns and the suspension of the NBA season serve as the backdrop for a deep dive into psychological warfare, eugenics, and the history of medical exploitation.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 2h 8m listen | 34 chapters
29: The Rona cover

About this episode

The March 2020 COVID-19 lockdowns have triggered a global strategy of tension, as the Family's First Coronavirus Response Act and mandatory school closures reshape American life. Donald Trump utilizes the pandemic to accelerate his trade war with China, aiming to repatriate manufacturing and reduce dependency on the CCP. Meanwhile, the World Health Organization and the Bank of China push for a cashless society, using hygiene concerns to justify the destruction of paper currency and the expansion of social credit monitoring.

Media outlets like CNN and personalities on The View frame the naming of the Wu-Hu Flu as racist, despite historical precedents like Zika and Ebola. Dr. Drew Pinsky and Dr. Oz challenge the mass hysteria, noting that the seasonal flu remains a significant threat while healthy populations are being primed for panic by entertainment like the Netflix series Pandemic. In the sports world, the NBA faces a total shutdown after Rudy Gobert tests positive, leading LeBron James to walk back initial refusals to play in empty arenas as the league enforces strict safety protocols. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin monitors the economic shift as Zoom and Amazon Fresh see record growth while the travel industry collapses.

Historical betrayals like the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment and the forced administration of Depo-Provera to Ethiopian Jews inform current skepticism toward government health mandates. The episode highlights the role of elite black fraternities like Sigma Pi Phi in social engineering and the legacy of Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. The show concludes with a parody quarantine song and a WHO update confirming that dogs are not susceptible to the virus.


CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

Coronavirus Pandemic Lockdown, Slang, and Workplace Segregation

The hosts open the episode during the March 2020 COVID-19 lockdowns, discussing the slang term "the Rona" and the impact of the pandemic on daily life. One host describes a bizarre workplace situation where teams were segregated by color, noting the "white team" appeared to have the most privilege. They address the month-long school closures and the Family's First Coronavirus Response Act, which includes provisions for SNAP benefits and unemployment.

coronavirus· rona· pandemic· self-isolation· workplace segregation· school closures· family's first coronavirus response act

00:00 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for March 14th, 2020. This is episode number 29. Hey, hey Mo. How you doing Adam? I'm good. How are you? I don't know, sir. You don't know? Well, here we are, of course, in the middle of pandemic 2020 as we're all on lockdown from coronavirus. Yeah, I of course have been self isolating for about 13 years ever since I became a serious podcaster you actually have a job a day job I do have a job and it's been it's been impact. Well, my whole life has been impacted by the coronavirus virus or as we like to call it the Rona and

00:49 The Ro- wait a minute, the Rona? Yes, the Rona. Who's calling it the Rona? I didn't know this was some slang that I didn't pick up on. Yeah, yeah, it's the Rona. It's the Rona, okay. Yeah. Thanks for the memo, the Rona. In passing, it's just like, hey, how's Bob doing? Not so good, he's got the Rona. Is that how you use it? This is used in certain communities. Oh, okay. Oh, all right. I gotcha. Now I can be really hip. Kind of like Mickey D's or you know, we always put a little sauce on it. But yeah, the work is working from home for certain people, certain parts of my job. We can't work from home so we have to, we're segregated by color and shape and it's just... What do you mean? If you're big or if you're white? I mean, what does that mean? Well, it's funny. The white team has the most privilege.

01:46 Hold on a second. You're not actually segregating workers by actual race are you? Everyone just has a color? Yes by color but by coincidence the white team has the most privilege which was that was raised to be and I was like it wasn't based on me. I think not! Interesting. Okay. Yeah. So, and then someone actually actually had time to bring it up to you and say, Hey man, this is not, this is not right. The white team has more privileges. Yes, it was brought up to me. And when I saw it, I saw it passing, I'm like, Hmm, that's interesting. But I mean, I didn't make a big deal up, but it was pointed out to me and then the kids. Uh, so they're out of school for a month. Wait a whole,

02:36 A whole month? Until April what, 6 or something? April 14th. April 14th? Wow, that's real long. So that's a problem. A very big one. Luckily, my wife works part-time and she has the flexibility with her schedule, so we're not that impacted. But I'm just wondering about people that don't have that luxury. What do you do? Because you can't even take them to daycare where you normally do for snow days or things of that nature because you don't want your kids around other people's kids. Yeah, well, this is part of the family's first coronavirus emergency response

03:14 Bill that passed the house and they're going to be provisions in there I think probably you and I you know being kind of your typical middle-class will get screwed Get screwed. There'll be nothing nothing for us But but there's a whole bunch of things are doing with the with the supplemental nutritional Access program snap also known as food stamps, which is really just can't got a Exactly, which is really a debit card. So that's an easy one for the government. They just turn on the tap and fill it up But there are very specific things for if you if you have to stay home if you're out of work if you can't be working for two weeks Unemployment, so there's a lot of things that are being done. It's a lot of money that they're gonna put out there a lot and

04:04 But the communication of how you actually get access to that, I don't think that's... I don't know if it's even started. Of course it would have to... it has to pass the Senate then before it goes into effect. But we'll probably see it Monday or Tuesday, I would think. Yeah, hopefully. So with that said, hopefully our two hours here, two... probably two hours here that we have, would take people's minds off of situation or at least give them a little bit of ease about the situation. Well then why don't we roll up the topic wheel and see what we have for today's MoFax with Adam Curry again episode number 29. The topic for today, where does the wheel stop? It's... Just when you thought you couldn't get away from it, there it is.

04:58 So what are we doing? Hopefully, after this show is over, you'll have a little bit of ease, you'll have a few laughs, and you'll go away from this... A happier person. Yes. Yes, less stressed and less angst. Oh good. So this might actually be a show for the whole family. We can take it back to kind of the 1920s, 1930s. You're all huddled around the radio. In this case, you're all huddled around You know, your laptop, where you put it on the smart speaker and the whole family can listen in and enjoy during these days when we're sitting at home. Hopefully so. And with that said, I guess we just need to give a little background. Okey dokey.

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

Media Fear-Mongering, Psychological Warfare, and Global Conspiracy Theories

A critique of mainstream media coverage of the coronavirus highlights alleged fear-mongering and misinformation regarding death rates. The discussion posits that the pandemic is being used as a "strategy of tension" or psychological warfare by elites to rattle the public and drive specific behaviors, such as panic-buying toilet paper. Theories are mentioned regarding the virus potentially being a bio-weapon, while noting the massive liquidity being injected into the banking system and the push for a cashless society.

msnbc· strategy of tension· psychological warfare· bio-weapons· liquidity· cashless society· 9/11

05:45 Misinformation about the coronavirus has been lighting up the mainstream media airwaves for months now, from so-called experts professing a clearly false 20% death rate on MSNBC to political pundits striking fear into the hearts of the American people with their dangerous fear-mongering rhetoric. Over the last week as a president who continues to give misleading information. The government, our government, the government led by that man is failing right now. You know, we could spend a lot of time hoping for for the president we need right now, we will not get him. Sense of urgency from this administration to deal with a very real issue. There's no confidence in the president and anything he says or does. In many cases, the same so-called professionals told people to rush to the stores, which as you can see, they did and stock up on supplies so they can hunker down in their homes for months and avoid getting

06:38 Yes, a virus. Then when the stock market took a plunge yesterday due to the oil war between Saudi Arabia and Russia and the fear-mongering surrounding COVID-19, social media went into high gear. Yeah, this has been quite an interesting time to be alive, to witness how people are responding and how they're acting. So maybe before we get too deep in the show, we should lay out How we're how we view this situation, I guess I'll go first. Okay. I see this as a form of warfare Not what you're thinking Biological that's not what I'm thinking. I'm thinking psychological. Oh, yeah I look at it like this

07:21 I think that people are getting sick. I think there is a thing called coronavirus, but in my mind, I don't think it's any different than flu or any other strand of flu we get every year. But I think the elite see this as an opportunity to take something that's not that serious put the machine behind it to cause a lot of angst and upset and upset people. That's why I stand there on this situation. So that would be what we'd call kind of the strategy of tension, which is meant to rattle people. I can certainly look at it from that angle and in fact

08:07 just to back that up a little more, one of the best parts of, if it's some kind of strategy or some kind of experiment, is to actually get people en masse to go buy a product that absolutely will not help them, such as toilet paper. You know, that was probably a nice side experiment everybody had a good laugh about. But for sure this is being used in the typical manner that we see where I mean I was quite aware after 9-11 and a lot of things happened then as well and again it doesn't mean necessarily that this has been a bio weapon or it could be I mean everyone's blaming each other the Chinese are talking about it it was us the Iranians say it was the Israelis we say it's the Chinese it's all over the map but the the legislation being passed

09:00 Of course, we already had 8.3 billion dollars out there. There's all kinds of money that flows out from these events. There's a huge liquidity being put into the banking system, so that could actually be saving someone here or there a bank. So there's all kinds of things that are taking place right down to, and this is my favorite, we probably shouldn't have any cash anymore because it transmits horrible things like... Hurry! Hurry! Do I have to put them on again, the goggles? Yes. Yeah, I can go on.

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

Donald Trump, China Trade War, and Economic Leverage

The pandemic's impact on global supply lines is framed as a potential win for Donald Trump's long-term goal of reducing American dependency on Chinese manufacturing. The hosts suggest that while Trump uses the crisis to repatriate money and factories, his political opponents and globalist elites may be leveraging the media-driven economic downturn to force interest rate cuts and financial stimulus before the 2020 election.

donald trump· china· manufacturing· tariffs· repatriation· globalists· 2020 election

09:37 And on but on the other hand and I always like looking at it from this angle I've mentioned this before in maybe some somewhat here, but certainly on no agenda Donald Trump for 20 years has been talking about China being a problem that we're shipping all our manufacturing over there This was you know, this was not good for the growth of America He comes into he comes into office. The first thing he did if you remember is like, okay, we need manufacturing here and he came up with the tax cut which is often said it was just for millionaires and billionaires. It wasn't. It was really a repatriation of all of this American money. Apple is a good example. They brought the billions and billions of dollars back so that people could start building factories and manufacturing capability in the United States. Then Trump starts a quote-unquote tariff war

10:35 and gets money, you know, it's working out. We're getting tariffs from the Chinese and their economies or their economic growth is slowed down significantly because of this and you know it seems like we're starting to get some things under control and then wonder, above all wonder, there's a... China has to shut down because of this virus and now we're... the conversation in the United States certainly is, hey, We can't have our medications being completely dependent upon China. Hey, we can't have these supply lines dependent upon China. Yeah, we need masks. We shouldn't just have them being made only in China.

11:13 So that is the Donald Trump win, and on the other hand, interestingly, a lot, now you're hearing a lot of globalists saying, oh, you know, this is not the way to handle it, we shouldn't be stopping flights between countries. So you can kind of see that this was also, I think if I believe any conspiracy theory, it's that somehow this fit beautifully into a plan that Trump has had for a long time. And I think there's also a counter plan afoot. I think the elite looked at it, this is just my theory, just a theory, I think the elite looked at it and said, huh, 2020 we don't look like we have a good chance of beating Trump.

12:02 So let's use our media apparatus to leverage him going into the election. That way we can get the 1.5 trillion dollars and the interest rate being lower. The interest rate is going to zero. They're going to cut it to zero this coming week. It's done. It's going to be over. Right. So if they waited until after the election, they had no leverage. But right now, Donald Trump's whole re-election is tied to the economy. So if they could use the media to you know, dink around with his economy, then they could leverage him and squeeze, you know, the $1.5 trillion out of him, the low interest rates, and then they get their little bit of, you know, little sugar before the 2020 election. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh no, this is, and believe me, people are making out like bandits. It's just not you and I.

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

Media Disinformation, Political Weaponization, and Public Panic

The hosts discuss the visual of a woman wrapping herself in plastic bags out of fear, blaming mainstream media for failing to provide calm, life-saving information. They argue the crisis is being politicized by both the media and the administration, comparing current government communication to the rollout of Obama's healthcare.gov.

mainstream media· disinformation· barack obama· healthcare.gov· fear-mongering· plastic bags

12:55 People are making a lot of money right now. When markets go down, when they go up, it's a beautiful transfer of wealth and a lot of it will be printed up. Yeah, go ahead. Well where I find this sick at and the reason why I did the show and this was a last-minute Show because I had another show I wanted to do but just seeing how people are being impacted by the mental Manipulation I felt it necessary to do this show and with that said let's get into the next clip a little old lady. I But of course, the mainstream media is not reporting what the surgeon general stated because that would do nothing to fuel the flames of fear and push their narrative. Their attempt to destroy President Donald Trump by any means possible. The disinformation and the media's fear mongering in turn has led to situations like this. People so afraid and so uninformed, they are using trash bags to try to protect themselves from the coronavirus. Two garbage bags.

13:58 My shoes came loose. Two sacks. Another sack. They ain't giving us no up-to-date what's going on. We don't know. The mainstream media, as you can see, is doing a major disservice to the American people. Instead of broadcasting the life-saving information distributed by the Trump administration to help actually keep people safe, they continue to incite fear. Yeah, this is... It's a big problem. It's being politicized and Trump politicizes this as well, although he didn't start the politicization in this case. That's why he keeps saying, you know, he'll slip in little things like, well, you all have a website up by Sunday, you know, not like some other websites referring to Obama's healthcare.gov. You know, there is some political bantering back and forth on all sides.

14:48 But the media, in general, the mainstream media, is all they're interested in is gotchas and you know how many people have died because it took too long or you know a lot of armchair quarterbacking. And it's all, that's all political. It's all intended to Create more fear, have people more worried, keep them tuned in and at the same time to help the constant campaign against the president. And what pissed me off is, because this is audio only, but just to give you the visual of that last clip, it's this little old black lady and she's wrapped in plastic bags.

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

Dr. Oz and Dr. Drew on Mass Hysteria

Dr. Oz and Dr. Drew provide commentary on TMZ regarding the mass hysteria surrounding COVID-19, urging healthy people to focus on protecting the elderly rather than panicking. They criticize the hoarding of medical masks by the general public and suggest that the population has been "primed" for this panic by entertainment products like the Netflix series *Pandemic* and the movie *Contagion*.

dr. oz· dr. drew· tmz· mass hysteria· face masks· grandma· netflix pandemic

15:31 And she's terrified. She had plastic bags tying around her feet, around her head, wrapped all over her body. And this is sick. This is very sick. And don't take my word for it that we're overreacting. TMZ caught up with two doctors and asked them their opinion, one being Dr. Drew and the other being Dr. Oz. My favorite. How are you? I'm surviving. How's the media tour going? The coronavirus has changed a lot of people's lives, especially those of us who talk about it. The interesting thing about coronavirus is we're a can-do people. We're used to taking charge of things. And I think a lot of folks feel out of sorts that they're just being told to

16:19 Not panic. How do you not panic? What does that look like? The worst thing when you're stressed out is that nothing to do that might change your predicament. That's how you create hardening of the arteries in animals. So we're basically doing it to a lot of the American population. So we shouldn't panic or we should panic. We should panic. I'm panicking. The thing you do is to act like we're supposed to on the things we can affect and not worry about the things we can't influence. So, can I change how contagious coronavirus is? Not really. Can I change who gets it? Yes. And since I know that I and other healthy people without chronic illnesses are going to do just fine with coronavirus, why get all worked up about it? The smart thing to do is make sure that grandma doesn't get coronavirus because when she gets it with her cardiovascular disease or diabetes or her cancer history, that could be a catastrophe.

17:03 There's too much mass hysteria going on about this. It's crazy. It's huge mass hysteria. I look down here, people are wearing masks. And I worry about that because we actually need those masks for people taking care of patients in hospitals. And if you have the wrong kind of mask, it doesn't work anyway. If you have the right kind of mask but don't fit it correctly in your face, or if you have facial hair, it's not going to work anyway. So you're actually taking a resource that the system needs and wasting it. Let's do the opposite. Let's think about what we can do to make sure that it's a little safer today than it was yesterday when it comes to coronavirus. So that was Dr. Oz. Yes, yes. Well and this is another, this is just another part of it all. We're so primed to believe the way things are supposed to work from endless entertainment products, some you know released as recent as three months ago, Pandemic on Netflix, nice little coincidence there. We're primed, we're primed for these things. People are actually renting Contagion

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

Millennial Panic, Supply Chain Disruptions, and Flu Comparisons

The discussion shifts to the behavior of millennials during the crisis and the real-world consequences of panic, such as the interruption of medication supply lines and the decline of business at Chinese restaurants. Dr. Drew Pinsky emphasizes that the seasonal flu remains a significant threat, urging people to follow CDC guidelines and get flu shots while avoiding obsession with the coronavirus.

millennials· cdc· anthony fauci· flu shot· chinese restaurants· panic buying

17:59 They're renting containers, streaming it. I gotta see you know what I'm not kidding about this. They're renting it. It's like this. It's very weird and I just want to add one more thing on we should continue I guess you got Dr. Drew next. Okay. Is there is something about I'll say the millennials, millennial generation who are so used to having everything on demand 24-7 economy click-click bing-boom-boom I've got it that when all of a sudden it's like hey what if this goes away, what if that goes away and they're spiraling man they're spiraling as a holy crap because I went I went to the store

18:38 Yeah, you know, but I saw what people were buying besides toilet paper, you know 20 bags of chips You know five, you know high-class brand of mac and cheese like complete idiots Weird things anyway So we have dr. Drew here next. Yes, dr. Drew. How are you today? Beautiful day out. How you doing? Really? I think I think there's so much going on as a cause what is the difference? Fact and fiction. What is real? Everything that's being reported is real. Just listen to the CDC and Anthony Fauci and behave accordingly. And remember, we have 24 million flu cases, 280,000 people hospitalized, 16,000 dead from the flu. Every reporter and runner should end with, get your flu shot. Get your flu shot. Way more likely to kill you than Corona.

19:29 the Now my elderly patients are having trouble getting their medication because the supply line is interrupted. So the panic is having real results. So settle down everybody, follow the CDC's recommendations and let's get on with things. Get your flu shot. Get your flu shot. It's very sad. In my town, a Chinese restaurant basically almost closed because they said no one's going there anymore. And this is just, it's like they're both going everywhere.

20:07 Your point is well taken, but the panic is having real world effect on people. People are losing jobs, businesses are closing, supply lines are interrupted, medications are being disrupted because, not of the virus, because of the panic. Take reasonable precautions, know your risk, listen to the CDC. That's it. Stop beyond that, stop obsessing about it. Dr. Drew, one of the lone voices in the wilderness, he keeps trying- But he still had it. But he still had to get his product placement in there. Get your flu vaccine. Get your flu vaccine. He said it like five times. Do you know actually what I think the most harmful piece, and I don't want to say it's disinformation because I don't think it is, was Joe Rogan

CHAPTER 07 / 34 Discussion

Joe Rogan, Michael Osterholm, and Pandemic Profitability

The hosts criticize a Joe Rogan Experience interview with Michael Osterholm, suggesting the mathematical projections discussed contributed to youth panic. They transition to a report from The Telegraph regarding sectors that stand to profit from the pandemic, including tech companies and specific retail industries.

joe rogan· michael osterholm· the telegraph· pandemic profit· math models

20:54 And in fact, he had this guest on a couple days after I was on the Rogan Show, Michael Osterholm. And Michael Osterholm, he's the real deal. He's a guy who really understands this stuff. But I think the way that Joe was asking the questions and the type of questions, And the answers, you know, it was just math. You know, it's like, well, it'll be 10 times worse than the flu. And the guy says, I did some numbers here. You know, so before you know, you've got a million people dying. And that's not it's although the guy is right at that moment in time, we really don't know what the numbers are. We really don't have the denominator, like how many people are actually infected, just like the flu, how many people are actually infected.

21:44 But because of that interview, which I think has six or seven million views, I think that really sent a lot of certainly younger people into a bit of a panic. Well, one number we do know is the amount of money everybody stands to make out of this narrative. Yes. And from the Telegraph, let's get into who can make money. The spread of coronavirus has had a devastating impact on many sectors, with some being brought to their knees. But as with any crisis, others are rubbing their hands with glee. These are the sectors that stand to win from the pandemic and those who have already begun cashing in.

CHAPTER 08 / 34 Discussion

Economic Winners, Zoom, and Grocery Spending Surges

As travel and hospitality industries suffer, other sectors like video conferencing (Zoom), gaming, and online grocery delivery (Amazon Fresh, Ocado) are seeing record growth. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin is cited regarding how the surge in household spending may partially offset losses in the airline and cruise sectors.

zoom· video games· amazon fresh· steve mnuchin· travel industry· grocery surge

22:33 Companies are having to change the way they work and fast. If many had been hesitant to make widespread use of video conferencing, they're now scrambling to get to grips with the technology. Zoom Video Communications is one of the companies which has seen its share price boom. Away from work, people are seeking diversions that do not involve travel and human contact and that's good news for the video game industry. Global mobile game downloads shot up 39% in February with China accounting for much of the increase. Games like Brain Out and Honor of Kings were among the most popular choices. Concern in China that takeaways could have been cooked or handled by someone with the virus has led to a subtle yet important trend.

23:24 Hungry families have turned back to good old-fashioned fresh groceries which they prepare themselves as meals for their loved ones. In Britain, Ocado and Amazon Fresh would represent the most obvious candidates to benefit with competition provided by big supermarkets like Tesco, Asda and Morrisons. Yeah, I'll add to that. I heard Steve Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary, in an interview yesterday saying that the amount, the surge in spending on household items, groceries, etc., pretty much from a grand USA economic scale equalizes the loss of business in the travel industry, which includes cruise lines and airlines and hotels. Now, of course, you know,

24:14 They won't last that long, but it was pretty interesting to see how that balances out. And I think a lot of people bought stuff that isn't like they're going to eat it and we'll have to... They're just going to keep that. And then they're going to keep on shopping. I think a lot of things will remain relatively normal except for some obvious industries. I'm guilty of that. I have to be honest. We went out and we stopped. I mean, we stay pretty stocked up in the first place. You got four kids. You're feeding an army. Yeah, but I mean, we double down not out of fear of the contagion, but more out of the possibility of limiting our movement. Sure. That's the angle I came from. Like,

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

Movement Restrictions, Delivery Services, and Immune System Health

The hosts discuss the potential death of food delivery services like DoorDash and Uber Eats due to a lack of trust in strangers handling food. They advocate for common-sense hygiene while referencing George Carlin’s philosophy that the immune system needs "practice" and exposure to germs to stay strong.

doordash· uber eats· instacart· george carlin· immune system· common sense

25:02 When they say you can't go to the store or stores have to close or they have limited hours me we seen this with the i didn't see it but you saw with the gas of. situation in the 1980s maybe they say only half the people can go to the store at a time or you know this divvying up of the population. So you guys aren't staying indoors all the time though, the kids go out and can they go out and play or are you keeping them in the house? Oh yeah they go out and play. No, you can't keep them in the house for a month. I mean that's completely unreasonable. Well in the basement with some sewing to do

25:40 For a month. It's not China. Whoa, whoa, whoa, bigoted much? No, I'm just saying. So we've seen the products flying out. And another thing I want to point out is I think DoorDash, Uber Eats, this might be the death of them. Cuz I don't think anybody's gonna be trusting a stranger to bring their food to them. Yeah, no, and you know, I think there was an article about 30% of all food deliveries, you know, will grab a fry out of your bag or something.

26:21 No, I agree. I agree with that. But it kind of sucks, man. This is a real job for a lot of people. They do that, they'll do Instacart or whatever, you know, favor. They'll run a couple of different of these things and it's a real income. So I hope that, you know, I hope things that you know. Are we coming back to common sense? I'll reason why I said wash your hands cover your mouth when you sneeze I mean the vampire sneeze or don't let a stranger bring your food to you. I mean these are kind of Kind of common sense things common sense things, but maybe we need to maybe we need this to bring people back to reality I don't know also we we need to

27:06 Be mindful that you don't want to disinfect your hands all the time. You know, you do need to... your immune system needs... George Carlin said, your immune system needs practice. You know, it's got to get some crappy stuff on it. You can't just be, you know, clean all the time because you'll get sick. Yes. Well, outside of products, I think there's a group of people also trying to use the media to change the narrative. And that narrative being in the last clip with Dr. Drew, they're saying that Chinese restaurants were basically going out of business and the Chinese people are being treated a certain way. And I heard this clip on the Karen Hunter show

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Racism Narratives, Wu-Hu Flu, and Italian-Chinese Relations

A debate emerges over the naming of the virus, with Karen Hunter arguing that terms like "Wu-Hu Flu" are racist. The hosts counter by noting that Italy, the first EU country to join China's Belt and Road Initiative, initially promoted "hug a Chinese person" campaigns before the lockdown, suggesting the "racism" narrative is a CCP-driven PR strategy supported by Western media outlets like CNN.

karen hunter· spanish flu· wuhan· italy· belt and road initiative· cnn

27:55 of her pushing it back against that narrative. Let's go to Kyle in Pennsylvania. Hey Kyle. Hey Karen, how are you doing today? I'm great. How are you? I'm doing well. Um, you'd mentioned earlier about calling this virus certain names and it being racist. Yeah. And then people are also using things such as the Spanish flu and Zika. And that's also a name of a location. I was wondering if you could just elaborate on why the Spanish flu actually started in China. So I don't know quite why they call it that, but you know we're in a different time. Now Spanish flu, what year was that Kyle? When was that? 1920s I believe. 1918 to 1920 lasted two years. That was the worst, one of the worst flu epidemics, pandemics we ever had.

28:40 So, you know, that racism wasn't that thing now. It is now, though. So if you're calling it the Wu-Hu flu and the Chinese flu, it's to demonize. I'm not going to yell over him. It's to demonize a group of people. I like to call it the Kung flu. That's very accurate. Kung flu. And it's funny. I think a lot, but I think a lot of people Chinese, can we spark about this with the NBA and the China, Chinese? Well, I mean, I don't, I have to get the goggles on Mo, but I have to say something up front. I think you're going to go into a little deeper history of this. To me, this is very easy and I saw it when this just started in Italy. My sister lives in Florence, that's the southern part of Italy, but that is now also, you know, a red zone on lockdown. They started this

29:34 The same narrative, people are being racist towards Chinese. Go out and hug a Chinese person. They had Chinese people in the streets with masks on, with blindfolds, with a sign that says, please hug me, I'm Chinese. And people go up to them and hug them and say, hey man, we're all in this together. Mm-hmm. What you need to know is that Italy is the number one the first country in the European Union a year ago To sign up with the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative. They've had you know constant Chinese delegations workers half of Italy is owned by China when it comes to the clothing industry up in the north where they have a hundred thousand workers, so this is clearly a

30:19 a message from the Chinese Communist Party saying you have to stop this because they hate it when you they don't even want you to put Taiwan on the map so they're anal about it and I think the same thing is happening with the media You know, I only have an example from CNN who three weeks ago were saying Wuhan, Wuhan, Wuhan. Now they're saying it's racist. You know, CNN owned by Warner Media, owned by AT&T, who has huge deals with the Chinese. So, yeah, go ahead. And I thought, you know, I found it weird that Karen Hunter

CHAPTER 11 / 34 Discussion

Historical Disease Names, Zika, and Ebola

The hosts list numerous diseases named after geographic locations—including Zika, Ebola, West Nile Virus, and German Measles—to question why naming the current virus after Wuhan is suddenly considered racist. They note the lack of historical pushback against these other names.

zika· guinea worm· west nile virus· german measles· ebola· george dick

30:57 Why would she take this on as a segment or, you know, the naming? The reason why I say that is Zika. It was 1947, deep in the Uganda forest. A British virus hunter named George Dick was researching the dreaded yellow fever virus, putting rhesus monkeys in cages, letting them be bitten by mosquitoes to isolate the virus from their blood. But George Dick noticed something strange in rhesus monkey number 766, a virus never before seen. He called it Zika after the forest.

31:36 It's racist. What was the pushback then? Oh saying, you know, he's calling it Zika, you know put African people You know, it's racist against African people and I got a short list here. You got the Guinea worm Which is from the Guinea coast of Africa, West Africa. You got the West Nile virus. That's self-explanatory. You got the German measles. You got the Zika virus, which is from the Zika forest in Uganda. And then you have Ebola, which is named after Ebola, Riva and Zaire. And you forgot the Wakanda flu. So where, where was the pushback?

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

The View, Asian American Discrimination, and Demographic Susceptibility

A clip from *The View* discusses discrimination against Asian Americans and a controversial meme posted by rapper Cash Doll. The hosts dispute the claim that the virus "does not discriminate," noting that data suggests it affects men, women, smokers, and different age groups with varying severity.

the view· mulan· cash doll· saturday night live· chris redd· discrimination

32:18 They say all to use those names are racist. Well, it didn't exist. No, of course it didn't exist. There must be something else going on. Well, as we always know, every chance I get, I love to. see what the real is talking about and even they push back on the racism on there. Wow. It's being reported that a lot of Chinese restaurants in New York City have been seeing a drop in business because people are afraid of the coronavirus. And even though there's been no confirmed cases of Corona in New York, Businesses have seen drops up to 70% because of the fear of Chinese tourists traveling to the city. There's also been a huge

33:02 problem of people being racist towards Asian Americans over the virus. Even rapper Cash Doll got in trouble this week for posting and then deleting a racist Disney meme showing the other Disney princesses being scared of Mulan. I can't believe that was even made. Who made that? Someone took time. So, ladies, what do you think of this? That's ignorant. I'm always curious, like you just said, ignorant. Do people really not know that this is not okay? They know it's not okay. You think Cash Doll knew when she posted this. I'm posting some racist stuff. People obviously, especially if you're a minority, you know what racism feels like. And then you go and post something like this yourself. What are you thinking? Cuz they think the laugh is worth it. Yeah, they thought it was a joke. And I think it's unfair.

33:58 to assume that it that this virus comes from one person yes it it it started in China but it's spreading and now it's a worldwide right worldwide issue so it's our issue it's our issue and viruses don't discriminate brother discriminate they're just on well I'm not so sure about that this one seems to discriminate between men and women smokers and non-smokers it seems to definitely discriminate uh-huh And then isn't... Go ahead, go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say, I heard on Saturday Night Live, I heard Chris Redd say black people can't get it. So that was an interesting message you sent out there.

CHAPTER 13 / 34 Discussion

African Immunity Myths, Gabon 24, and Continental Preparedness

The hosts investigate the myth that black people cannot contract the coronavirus, contrasting American medical advice with reports from Gabon 24. They discuss the surprisingly low infection rates in Africa despite continued flights between China and Ethiopia, questioning if climate or genetics play a role.

dr. jen cotto· gabon 24· africa· ethiopia· addis ababa· the lancet

34:38 where according to Dr. Jean Cotto, yes, black people can get coronavirus. Next. Oh my God. This next one I need no prop for. In fact, I'm the prop for this next one. I literally was in the beauty shop just yesterday. I'm not even kidding. And I overheard this woman talking to another woman saying, she said something like, did you hear? I heard that black people can't get coronavirus. Uh-huh. I said, And she said it again, she's like, yeah, I heard that black people can't get coronavirus. And she was literally having a conversation with another woman about this. Guys, I'm black. Many of you might be black.

35:16 There is no evidence to say that black people cannot get coronavirus. This is a myth, okay? Anyone can get coronavirus. Now we know it mostly affects older people more seriously. It just seems like younger people are spared or have milder disease. But guys, in terms of races, no, black people can get coronavirus, okay? That's a myth. Well, I don't think she knows, I don't think anybody knows. We don't have any data. I mean, we don't even know how old most of these people are that are dying. When you hear, oh, Washington, oh, 40 people dead, you're like, oh my God. You know, unfortunately, a poorly run old folks home, you know, they didn't take care of business and a lot of people died.

35:54 But I average age of 80. Yeah, but I don't I don't know if if this affects African Americans Asians Caucasians differently, I don't know by the way white people are Caucasians, you know, we are part of the of the Asian family Mm-hmm. So she says it's a myth but according to Gabon 24 It seems more like it has some factual backing in it. So far, only two people have been officially infected with the virus on the continent, one in Egypt and another in Algeria, for no deaths.

36:32 A drop in the ocean of 80,000 cases and more than 2,700 deaths recorded in some 40 countries on the planet. Modelling published in the medical journal The Lancet has made Egypt, Algeria and South Africa the three countries of Africa most threatened. but also the least vulnerable because they are best prepared to spot infection. But despite numerous warnings, the epidemic does not seem to have developed significantly on the continent until now. Some advance the possibility of climate protection. Maybe the virus does not grow in the African ecosystem. We don't know.

37:10 says Professor Yazdan Pana, head of infection diseases at the Bishar Hospital in Paris. The number of African countries with laboratories capable of identifying COVID-19 increased in a few weeks from two to 29. Yeah, I've been tracking Africa for several months now with this, with the full knowledge that China never shut down their daily flights between multiple cities in China and Ethiopia, specifically Addis Ababa. And the Addis Ababa airport has remained open. There's no screening, no testing. There's over a million Chinese on the continent of Africa. And the travel is just constant daily going back and forth. And I think the first two cases were not native Africans.

38:05 They, you know, one guy came from Italy and he was visiting in Egypt, so of course that counts as Africa. And there are some sporadic cases, but again, we don't know the race or even sex of these victims. But it's very odd, you know, the slightest trace of anything in Africa kills hundreds of thousands. We've seen this continuously throughout history. Yet this one's zero. And that's what I find weird is, I think it's, if my numbers are correct, 1.5 billion people on the continent of Africa. Only two cases out of the 80,000 cases that you had at the time. I think it's way higher than that now. I think it's like 1.15. Yeah, it's higher now, yeah. But two cases out of 80,000 come from Africa.

CHAPTER 14 / 34 Discussion

World Health Organization, Cash Hygiene, and Martial Law

The World Health Organization clarifies its stance on using cash, advising people to wash their hands after handling money rather than calling for its abolition. The hosts view the discouragement of cash and restrictions on movement as a form of "martial law light."

who· cash· hygiene· martial law· dollar bills

38:56 I know out of sheer data. It's that would seem like a There's something to it, but also how about South America? How about Mexico? I don't I don't hear anything from any reports in Mexico I haven't heard any no man, so so that's what one man is And then a myth that you foreshadowed is that Dr. Jen covered is about cash. How many of you have heard the rumor that we shouldn't be using dollar bills or cash because it can spread coronavirus? Yeah, I've actually heard that too. I wanted to look into it to see really what was true and what was not. The World Health Organization was accused of saying just a couple days ago that we shouldn't be using cash in order to prevent the spread of coronavirus. Well, interestingly enough, they came back and said, well, we didn't say that. All we're saying, the World Health Organization said, is that if you use cash and when you use cash, you should wash your hands

39:53 Afterwards because you definitely don't want to touch the cash and then touch your face without washing your hands. All right So what's the deal guys cash is dirty? Um, yeah, and we know that it's in lots of hands, right? It's got viruses and bacteria and all sorts of stuff on it, right? Right, right. Well, this of course is not that is not the reason why you have cash but okay People don't see people are ignorant It's working out to just from a conspiratorial angle. Look at this. You're stopping the movement of people. I.E. martial law. I mean, martial law light. Then you want to take my cash away from me.

CHAPTER 15 / 34 Discussion

Public Self-Organization, Nudge Theory, and Post-9/11 Conditioning

The American public's shift toward social distancing is described as a self-organized response to media stimuli rather than a government mandate. The hosts apply "nudge theory" to the situation, suggesting the pandemic is being used to condition the public to accept invasive measures like infrared temperature scans, similar to the behavioral changes accepted after 9/11.

nudge theory· social distancing· 9/11· infrared cameras· conditioning· behavioral change

40:40 You shut down schools. Hey brother, you're the one living in Virginia. They're taking your guns away. I'm in Texas, so I'm feeling pretty good right now. Right. So that's the next thing. Guns are spreading corona. No, I really don't see this. I think this is beautiful. I said a couple days ago, There's no stopping it. This is already underway, the flattening of the curve, I identified that as the meme very early on. And this is actually, in my mind, because of all the stimuli, everything that's come out, everything that's been discussed, the American public has said, fuck it, we're going to take care of ourselves and here's what we're going to do. We're shutting down some things. We're not going to

41:27 go to certain events. This was not government mandated at all. It still isn't government mandated. The American people took the external stimuli from the social media and from mainstream media itself, from the horrible performance the president had himself on Wednesday night, which was really the worst speech, the worst performance, really instilled zero confidence. That's when the market tanked 2,000 points. That's when everyone really started going nuts buying stuff on Thursday. All of these things combined, then the American people said, okay, we're gonna take care of ourselves. Now, interesting that then you see some of these abnormalities such as grabbing toilet paper. But I think it was pretty self-organized. And you can say that's good or bad,

42:24 It worked and it's a... Well, let's revisit one of our running themes on this show. The nudge. Sure. They nudge the people and I like to go back to my theory. This is a psychological warfare. If I'm trying to say, okay, I want to nudge people. Oh, yeah We might you know cash we got a look at cash. That's a nudge if you have a conspiratorial mindset if you know When you say we're gonna restrict your movement That's a nudge for people that you know are looking for a martial law to come and FEMA camps and you know It's a constant nudge. I'm not saying these things are real. I'm just saying that they're

43:12 Playing on the psychology of people. Oh, no these little I totally run with it I totally agree and and every day there's different little tests going on and as I stated before this is the way we're responding into some degree the way we're compliant and because of the you know zombie land, World War Z, contagion, outbreak I mean these are all hugely any disaster movie it's all in our mind and again I'm so happy that the Pope didn't die you know you want to see some shit go down have that happen Tom Hanks okay it'll be sad we'll do some memorials but you know it's yeah we are

43:54 Proof that we can be easily controlled with the right stimuli. Absolutely. This is very reminiscent of 9-11 and on the psychological side, not the human loss. Yes and no. Well, no one understands the human loss. Human beings are very bad at putting that into perspective, but this was not a What no one will be able to say is what happened on the day the Wuhan flu broke. No one will know. There's no date. There's no one event associated with it other than I think a poor performance by the president who redeemed himself the next day or Friday actually. The point I'm making is certain things that were

44:41 Not acceptable for 9-11 are acceptable now. Those are human behavioral things that Before pre 9-11 we wouldn't accept it, but post 9-11 we will accept it. Like walking into a store and a store having infrared thermometer cameras that measure your temperature. I'm seeing these things now. I mean this is gonna be commonplace in workplaces and... Oh yeah, not just that, it's gonna scan you because of the chip in your head. Of course. Right, so I think it's a conditioning. We're taking it lightly, but I think the conditioning is a conditioning of let's see how far we can push them or nudge them so they'll give up more of their freedoms. And as we always do, we always look to see how these stories trickle down to the local news.

45:38 Well, Detroit Local 4 covers the cash situation. We know everybody has so many questions concerning the coronavirus and our Dr. Frank McGeorge is working very diligently to make sure that we can answer all those questions you have. Tonight he's addressing a common question that affects everyone, our money. Yeah, Karen and Jason, exactly. Concerns over coronavirus, well they've created intense swings in financial markets. But I'm talking about greenbacks, the cash in your wallet. We touch it, we pass it between people. Some people even lick their fingers as they count it. Is that a problem? Viewers from Plymouth to Grosse Pointe ask, can you get coronavirus from handling money? The answer is, we don't know, but it's worth thinking about. Since mid-February, the Bank of China has been either destroying bills or disinfecting their cash with ultraviolet light at high temperatures, then storing it for 7-14 days before re-releasing it back into the circulation.

CHAPTER 16 / 34 Discussion

Digital Currency Push, Bank of China, and Crisis Exploitation

Reports from Detroit and China discuss the disinfection and destruction of paper currency to stop the virus. The hosts argue that Silicon Valley and the Chinese government are using the crisis to push for a cashless society, which facilitates better social credit monitoring and financial control.

frank mcgeorge· bank of china· apple pay· google wallet· rahm emanuel· social credit

44:41 Not acceptable for 9-11 are acceptable now. Those are human behavioral things that Before pre 9-11 we wouldn't accept it, but post 9-11 we will accept it. Like walking into a store and a store having infrared thermometer cameras that measure your temperature. I'm seeing these things now. I mean this is gonna be commonplace in workplaces and... Oh yeah, not just that, it's gonna scan you because of the chip in your head. Of course. Right, so I think it's a conditioning. We're taking it lightly, but I think the conditioning is a conditioning of let's see how far we can push them or nudge them so they'll give up more of their freedoms. And as we always do, we always look to see how these stories trickle down to the local news.

45:38 Well, Detroit Local 4 covers the cash situation. We know everybody has so many questions concerning the coronavirus and our Dr. Frank McGeorge is working very diligently to make sure that we can answer all those questions you have. Tonight he's addressing a common question that affects everyone, our money. Yeah, Karen and Jason, exactly. Concerns over coronavirus, well they've created intense swings in financial markets. But I'm talking about greenbacks, the cash in your wallet. We touch it, we pass it between people. Some people even lick their fingers as they count it. Is that a problem? Viewers from Plymouth to Grosse Pointe ask, can you get coronavirus from handling money? The answer is, we don't know, but it's worth thinking about. Since mid-February, the Bank of China has been either destroying bills or disinfecting their cash with ultraviolet light at high temperatures, then storing it for 7-14 days before re-releasing it back into the circulation.

46:34 That is based on studies that have shown bacteria and viruses can survive on money. Now, there is no study that shows the COVID-19 virus can survive on cash. However, an unidentified representative from the World Health Organization reportedly told a British newspaper that cash could be contributing to the spread of COVID-19. The US Treasury has not made any statement on US currency. Until this issue is properly studied, I would recommend a common-sense approach. Where possible, use cashless options. I do want to be clear, because I agree with you on the psychological warfare, but it's not one front. It's not one actor. There's many, many, many little teams doing things for their own benefit.

47:24 Again, money's being made in the markets. There's all kinds of competitive businesses being, this is by the way, you'll see big companies being acquired, will have lots of acquisition because stock prices are very low. This is the moment when a lot of things happen and indeed, there's so much incentive to get rid of cash because Silicon Valley in particular Apple Pay, Google Wallet, Tap and Go cards. They want to be your bank. They want to be your bank. They will not be happy until they are your bank. And I'm not saying it's a concerted effort for one group of one point... I know, but I just want to cover for you so we don't get completely excoriated. It's complete nut jobs.

48:13 Oh no, this is what I'm saying is they throw these little nudges out here so if you're, whatever way you're leaning, you're gonna lean more towards that way. Oh for sure. If you're anti-Trump, it's gonna make you more anti-Trump. That's right. If you're pro-Trump, all the media's picking on Trump. Even Trump, he's I don't want those tests. Why would you want the test? The count will go, the number will go. Oh my god, this is like the most important question they have. Yeah, I understand why he didn't do that. That's political. That's political. I mean, he was like, I don't want an accurate way of counting how many people have this thing.

48:54 If you're pro-cashless, which China is very pro-cashless, this works for them because they can say, oh yeah, we got to get rid of the currency, which they're trying to head, which helps with the social scoring or social credit score. I think every group is weaponizing in the way they want to weaponize it. It's not a concerted effort, but they all have this one thing that they can Shine a light through it the that prism to whatever that how they want it to seem Never let never let a good crisis go to waste Rahm Emanuel said it that's never let it go to waste and then smart people don't podcasters on the other hand just make another show and with that said one of the greatest forms that Entertainment has been severely impacted that being sports. I

CHAPTER 17 / 34 Discussion

Sports Cancellations, March Madness, and Rudy Gobert

The sports world faces a total shutdown, triggered by NBA player Rudy Gobert testing positive for COVID-19. The cancellation of March Madness and major league seasons is described as a historic shift in the sports industry.

ncaa· march madness· nba· rudy gobert· donovan mitchell· mark emmert

49:48 And coronavirus coverage does continue with Steve Christakis. Steve, major developments pouring in from the sports world. What else is left to talk about that's not canceled? It's just unbelievable, Manila. You know, rapidly moving story here in the past 24 to 48 hours has been new territory not only for the world in general, but the entire sports industry in particular. Everything virtually canceled with no certainty of when or if things will pick back up. Thursday afternoon was one of the most unforgettable days this country has seen in recent years as the final domino fell with the historic move to completely cancel March Madness in a statement released by NCAA president Mark Emmert and the Board of Governors due to COVID-19 the Division 1 men's and women's basketball tournaments as well as remaining winter and spring championships will not be

50:31 take place. This triggered by NBA star Rudy Gobert testing positive for the virus. And that single case stem seemed to send a ripple effect across the sports world with the rapidly moving cancellation of every major sports league in the country and international organizations who had not already done so. They quickly followed suit. Yep. We've seen this before and with sports, how sports can change how an infectious disease is viewed. One being Mr. Magic Johnson. Oh, right, of course. With HIV. Yeah. It's amazing that this guy, Rudy Gobert, the story is that he was like very flippant about the coronavirus. He was touching the microphones and teasing his teammates. And all of a sudden, two days later, he ends up with the coronavirus. Uh-huh.

51:35 Being one, a black, he's, he's... Right, hold on a second. Oh yes, hold on a second. Now we have a winner, ladies and gentlemen. Our first black person with coronavirus. And then his teammate, the second black person with coronavirus. Oh, we got one and two. I'm smelling a rat here is what I'm smelling. They couldn't let the fans in. That was not gonna happen. They saw that coming down Broadway. Like, well, and then, you know. Well, one person didn't see it coming down Broadway. LeBron? LeBron James. LeBron, apparently the possibility has arisen of playing NBA games without fans in the arena just to be safe because of coronavirus. Have you thought about what that might be like?

CHAPTER 18 / 34 Discussion

LeBron James, NBA Protocol, and Playing Without Fans

LeBron James initially refuses to play games in empty arenas but later walks back his comments after being briefed on NBA safety protocols. The hosts suggest James was "put on script" by the league after his initial candid reaction.

lebron james· nba· fans· protocol· lakers

52:24 Who? Who what? Who what? We play games without the fans? Yeah. Nah, it's impossible. I ain't playing. I ain't got the fans in the crowd. That's who I play for. I play for my teammates, I play for the fans. That's what it's all about. So if I show up to an arena and there ain't no fans in there, I ain't playing. So they can do what they want to do. Thanks everyone. Appreciate it. Well, LeBron had to walk that back. Oh, really now? Obviously, we're going to listen to whatever protocol that's going on with this issue and you know, obviously, we got, you know, the great people upstairs that's going to do what's best for the franchise and whatever the case may be but you know, when we have the games, we we are we maintain our focus. We've had a lot of things that's kind of, you know, you know, been, you know, good and bad with our season, you know, as you know,

53:28 put us in a position where we had to think about the game and do other things as well. So with this particular issue, I think we'll handle it. Like I said, our franchise will handle it. We'll make sure we continue to do what we've been doing and just move on. The closeness of the team will also help as well, right? Yeah, for sure. I mean, any time there can be any type of distraction or can be a distraction, the best way to stay and maintain your focus being around the guys is to that you've been with for the majority of the season. So, it'll be great. Are there other ways you've been advised to kind of change your behaviors or maybe put more emphasis on certain things? Yeah, I mean, we've had discussions. We've had our team doctors. We have everybody coming in just giving us what the update of the particular virus is going on and what to look for, how to continue to protect yourself and things of that nature. So, yeah, we're just following our protocol.

54:26 Well it's funny because when I was asked the question of would you play without no fans I had no idea that it was actually a conversation going on behind closed doors about the particular virus. Humming a humming a humming a hum. You know from another side go ahead go ahead. He was I didn't know you were talking about the Rona What else would they be asked you about not playing with fans and all of a sudden You have to come back and pivot and say oh, yeah, I'll play with my fans I mean we he was quite adamant about it. Now. That's what I play for the fans. Yeah, so somebody obviously uses as a point to say

CHAPTER 19 / 34 Discussion

Formula One Financial Impact, Stephen A. Smith, and Athlete Privilege

The cancellation of events like the Australian Grand Prix has massive financial implications for host cities like Austin. Meanwhile, sports commentators Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman discuss the "privilege" of elite athletes who have immediate access to COVID-19 testing while the general public struggles to get tested.

formula one· austin· stephen a. smith· max kellerman· testing privilege

55:09 Somebody obviously is getting everybody on the script and he obviously wasn't on script when he was asked the question the first time But he quickly got on to his own the script this Has impacted this impacts a lot of people stadium workers, you know, there's it's the obvious obvious pain I hope I have a minority stake in Grand Prix radio, which does radio reports and else plays music of Formula One And, you know, Australia, the Grand Prix is cancelled. This is a big show. The Formula One is a massive show when it comes to town. And a lot of people benefit. Austin, not until November, but Austin benefits tremendously from it. A hundred million dollars comes in in a week.

55:55 And it's even so bad that you know we can't even that you know we're in negotiations for extension of the the rights to use the Formula One trademark and that you know that they can't even find time to do it. They're all freaking out trying to figure out what to do. A lot of people's income depends on Formula One. Just another another way that this affects sport and everyone around it. And I'm not a sports guy as you know. Uh-huh. Well, I am. I'm highly upset. I'm sorry. What are you gonna do with your time? You gonna go play a street fighter or what you gonna do? No basketball. Oh my. One thing I want to point out is this. They even shut down March Madness. March Madness being the second most fan-friendly sporting event in America, outside the Super Bowl.

56:50 So for that to be shut down, this is serious. I mean, we're talking about billions of dollars here just on that one event being lost. But all the sports shows would consume this topic of Corona or the Rona, however you want to refer to it. One being Mr. Stephen A. Smith show. Stephen A. and I were texting yesterday and we had a conversation. First off, at the NBA, as they were quick to pivot and I give them a lot of credit for that. I also think they were a little bit slow and dragged their feet at the beginning of it, considering that you had different teams that were acting as individual entities saying what they decided they wanted to do instead of having one uniform decision.

57:30 Obviously, as this thing continues to scale, I think people start to see the severity of it. I also think it's a little bit frustrating because now that Tom Hanks or Rita Wilson or Rudy Gobert or Donovan Mitchell has it, it's become a very serious issue. I recognize, Max, I hear you often talk about privilege. I think that sometimes we have to put this into perspective because we're talking to people at home, but we're talking to about very elite people who have access to get tests like that. So what about the everyday person who doesn't have access to get tested? Well, screw the little man. You can use the drive-thru. The Trump drive-thru.

CHAPTER 20 / 34 Discussion

Magic Johnson HIV Conspiracy, Heterosexual Narrative, and Rudy Gobert

A host presents a theory that Magic Johnson’s HIV diagnosis was a narrative used to rebrand AIDS as a heterosexual disease. They note that Dr. Deborah Birx, a key figure in the COVID-19 response, was also a major figure in HIV/AIDS policy, and they compare the demonization of Rudy Gobert to past medical narratives.

magic johnson· hiv· aids· deborah birx· rudy gobert· blockbuster

58:09 Well, this goes back to one of the terms that we use is white adjacent. So it's not only the white people or white privilege, it's the white adjacent privilege that you can get testing. Obviously, if you're in the NBA, you can get the testing because you're a multimillionaire celebrity. Right. I thought that I wanted to add that to it. And if we're, you know, if true, if true, I, I have questions. Even Tom Hanks, I have some questions. Oh no, I definitely don't think Rudy Goldberg, I think that's why I brought up the narrative of Maddie Johnson. I'm gonna say this and it might draw a lot of people, I don't think Maddie Johnson ever had HIV. Wow, that's a pretty big statement. The reason why I say this is, and this is a small tangent I'm gonna go off on, but

59:08 At the time that he contracted HIV, or allegedly contracted HIV, all the people that contracted at the same time period are dead. He's alive, healthy, no T cell count scares. Pedro from the real world, dead. The little boy that was on Oprah, dead. I mean, everybody else is dead. This guy's alive, healthy, well, I mean, trust me. But the way they used him to make it a heterosexual disease, Because before that time, he was the face of, and that's why I'm talking about these narratives, the reason why I went down this path, and I'm quickly gonna bring it back, but before that time, HIV was seen as a gay

59:55 disease. Let's just be honest. But once Magic Johnson contracted it, or allegedly contracted it from my viewpoint, it became, oh, well this healthy heterosexual, virile black man contracted it through heterosexual means. They were giving away the free VHS at Blockbuster to show in classes and it became a heterosexual disease. So, We've seen NBA players be used and, and. highly contagious diseases. That's all I'm gonna say. Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time. And I will add to that that the coordinator for the White House is Dr. Deborah Bricks, I'm sorry, Bricks, B-I-R-X, and she has been the, well, she was the HIV AIDS ambassador at large

1:00:53 within the State Department specifically for HIV and now for coronavirus. And so she comes with a lot of credentials in being a crisis manager, but interestingly that you bring that up and she's back. She wasn't there for Ebola, wasn't there for Zika, but she's back for this one. And then there's some ties with HIV and Corona and if you want to go down that path, but I really don't want to go down that path. But it's just that, just me being a nearly 40 year old man, I've seen this sports be used this way before. So I digress, but let's

1:01:33 It's weird that these clips are titled, just to let people know behind the scenes, little behind the scenes, Stephen A. Smith, dude, Go Bears should be jailed for this. That was the title of the video on YouTube. When I went to go find that clip, that portion of the clip, it had been removed. Oh really? The video is still up, but it's that section of the title. This is the title from the YouTube clip. Gobert should be jailed for this. So they're pushing a narrative of the same thing with HIV. If you consciously spread the disease, it should be a crime.

CHAPTER 21 / 34 Discussion

NBA Germ Exchange, Max Kellerman, and Black Skepticism

The hosts discuss the high likelihood of virus transmission in professional basketball due to constant physical contact and shared facilities. They question why more players haven't tested positive if the virus is as contagious as reported, while noting Max Kellerman's subtle mentions of "currency" during sports broadcasts.

nba· germs· locker rooms· max kellerman· currency· basketball

1:02:14 Uh, but it's funny that they removed that portion from the clip and it was people in, it was people in a comment saying the same thing. Hey, where'd that part go? Uh, where, you know, I guess they saw it live and then they came to watch it and it would have been removed. But, uh, the second part is clip. They continue to talk about privilege. Let me put y'all on pause just for a quick second here. They played Toronto Monday, Utah. Saturday they played at Detroit. I spoke to somebody during the show that said, excuse me, you know what? I got to call some of my folks in Boston because Utah played Boston Friday. They played the New York thicks Wednesday. So think about that. New York

1:03:02 Boston, Detroit, Toronto. overtax the health care system. As Jay said, privileged people have access to medicine. But that's not the majority of our population. Well, Max slipped up there because he was about to say isolate. Yes, he stopped his step and said social distancing. Right. And they bring up this thing about privilege. But as Stephen A. Smith laid out, you have

1:03:52 sports. Basketball is a contact sport. These guys are pushing each other, sweating on each other, and breathing on each other, and the teammates shower together and use the same showers, you know, locker room. Half of them have been to China on promotional visits in the past three months. So then it's like, hello, hello, direct contact. But they're gonna want to demonize this one dude Rudy Gobert for touching microphones and joking around with his teammates clothes. I mean it's a contact sport and not only that,

1:04:31 This is the final clip from the Steve and I said, uh, nasty ball. But people don't understand how disgusting the basketball actually is. Think about how I remember this is back in the, but remember Steve Nash always used to look at the natural guys do off. The ball is filled with germs. By the way, I mean, currency. You touch it, then look at the year that the dollar, I mean, this is, this is, this is the reality. We can try to do the best we can to be vigilant with the social distancing, the washing. Do we know when he touched all the microphones? That was Monday. That was Monday. Yeah. I love, Mo, I think I'm a conspiratorial thinker. I think the, uh, the mind of the black man is, uh, even more conspiratorial. I really like where you're taking me on this.

1:05:23 Well, you just hold on, sir. Buckle up. Whoa, here we go. We're really about to go down the rabbit hole. But you think about that. You have this spit, sweat, germ ball being passed around by up to 15, maybe 20 guys in a game and they're all playing interchangeably with other teams. And this league should be out of commission. But you heard Max Kellerman though wearing currency. You heard him, if you didn't hear that, he threw it at currency. Yeah, so we have these talking points. So we've talked about... No, there should be at least 10 NBA players infected by now. We should be hearing about it if it was true.

1:06:08 We have to keep our eye on this and see if the count goes up or not. Because it just doesn't make any sense that two guys and then we're just going to leave it there. No, no, no, no, no. We got our eyes on you, NBA, as we always do. Also, everything got canceled the minute he turned out to be corona positive. That's what the RT clip said that we played previously. That was the catalyst for everything else being shut down. So, So we talked about social psychology control, economic control, narratives being laid out in all the parties. So now we can come around to politics. Oh yay!

CHAPTER 22 / 34 Discussion

Roland Martin, Dr. Oliver Brooks, and Racial Politicization

Dr. Oliver Brooks appears on Roland Martin’s show to discuss how COVID-19 could devastate the African American community due to poor healthcare access and high rates of comorbidities. The hosts criticize the segment for politicizing the health crisis to influence the black vote.

roland martin· oliver brooks· national medical association· comorbidities· black vote

1:06:57 So now we get to just see how they're trying to spin this towards the black voter. And this is from the show with Mr. Roland Martin. Roland Martin had Dr. Oliver Brooks on his show to talk about the impact of COVID-19. So now what we're dealing with is we're scraping together a response. We have not had a state of emergency declared. A state of emergency declared would allow for other funds to be released and there's some funds like myself in the community health centers that's specifically in a state of emergency. So now what I'm dealing with is a lack of tests.

1:07:38 patients that have a lot of concerns and I'm challenged to treat them properly. Also at the NMA, since we look at the health and the welfare of the African American community and communities that are underrepresented, we have to be concerned about things like if it gets strongly into the African American and poor communities, poor transportation, public houses, so we're living all on top of each other. not great access to health care, so I'm sick. Not only may I not go to the doctor because I have to go to work, but I may not go to the doctor because I can't readily get to a doctor. Oh, I do not like this guy.

1:08:18 So he has to politicize it. Of course. We're at high risk and if it comes into our community, it's going to be even worse for us than anybody else, which the continent of Africa hasn't shown. I know. I've been a representative of that, but we're just going to roll with that anyway. And let me say this, for the people I know, I know, I know not ever all of us are from Africa. So I just want to say that, but If you just use it as a test case, and him being the doctor from the National Medical Association, you would think he would take that into account, but he doesn't. Where was this from? What is Roland Martin doing these days? Roland Martin has a YouTube channel. So he used to be a correspondent on CNN, and now he's a YouTuber?

1:09:07 Well, they roll them out when they need them on MSNBC, you know, when they need somebody to yell and talk about the black vote or whatever, you know. If they need some Boulet Babel, then they roll them out. He's kind of second string though. He's a bencher, right? Oh man, he, I mean, I wouldn't say, he's off the team. It's just like, he gets a little bit work here and there, but I mean, I think he's off the team. He's still trying to get back on the team, as you see when he brings people like Dr. Oliver Brooks home. The studies have shown clearly from the CDC that those that die from this are those that have comorbidities. So we, of course, as African-Americans... First of all, what is that? What is... First of all, what's that phrase? What is that? A comorbidity, just if you have some other illness. Like, in addition to you may have fever and may have been...

1:10:06 exposed to someone with COVID-19, you also have hypertension, COPD, pulmonary lung disease, diabetes. All of these things put you at higher risk of complications and or deaths from coronavirus. So if or when this hits the African American community, communities that are poor, underrepresented, it will devastate us. So that mortality rate that our leader told us, oh, don't worry about it. I have a hunch that it's not as high. And in the black communities, if COVID really starts to spread, the morbidity rate will be in fact high. Oh, wow. How you feeling Mo? Have you taken your temperature and you're doing okay?

CHAPTER 23 / 34 Discussion

The Boule, Sigma Pi Phi, and Dr. Oliver Brooks' Bio

The hosts discover that Dr. Oliver Brooks' official biography on the National Medical Association website explicitly lists his membership in Sigma Pi Phi, also known as the Boule. They discuss the significance of this elite black fraternity and its historical role in social engineering.

sigma pi phi· the boule· kappa alpha psi· oliver brooks· national medical association

1:10:54 Well, I get my temperature taken every day at work, so I don't have to worry about when you come in Is that they screen you when you come in? Yeah, we got the camera got the infrared cameras. Oh nice So, I mean I like I said this until it start impacting me in my everyday life Like I said kids out of school for a month. We're working on skeletons crew team Getting scan Lunchroom I mean this is I mean once this start impacting my life. I started looking at it and the psychological effect on the psychology of it now, mr Oliver Brooks, I've never heard of him before

1:11:32 So I had to go as I always do figure out who these people are. Yes So I went to the National Maritime Medical Association. This is in in a net org This is their official website and I'm going down his bio and it says, uh Dr. Brooks has received numerous awards yada yada yada and then the last paragraph guess what I find here. I Dr. Brooks is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute, Curry. It gets better. No. And a member of Sigma Pi Phi quotations, the Boulay. Wait, that's on the National Medical Association website. Yes. I have it here. I got it here. I'm looking at it myself.

1:12:27 All the way down to the bottom last paragraph. I see it. Dr. Brooks is a member of the Kappa Alpha Psi and Sigma Pi Phi, the Boule fraternity. What? This is not... No, this has got to be some joke that someone put it in there. Some dude named Ben wrote up this thing. He's like, I'm gonna just add this in there. That'd be kind of cool. Don't you think? No, he's a card-carrying member. Well, let me say this, Roland Martin is a member of Kappa Alpha Sigma. I know, but this is the National Medical Association's website and they're just throwing the boule in there? It's not seen as a negative for them. Damn. And you're gonna see why when we continue on. Oh, I love it. Yeah. Okay, that's in the show notes, everybody. So you can see it for yourself. This is really true. It's really there. That's the mind boggler of the show so far.

CHAPTER 24 / 34 Discussion

Radioactive Milk, High Fructose Corn Syrup, and Urban Genocide

A discussion on historical biological warfare against black communities covers claims of radioactive milk being shipped to inner cities after Chernobyl. They also reference the Amazon series *The Hunters*, which features a plot about Nazis using high fructose corn syrup to target urban populations.

radioactive milk· chernobyl· diabetes· high fructose corn syrup· nazi hunters· operation paperclip

1:19:47 Well, one reason I'm not cuz you get fucked all the time Yeah, but one reason I'm not worried about the coronavirus of the Rona is that we're hearing about it usually when they when they screw us over Fair point fair point I know people like wow, they're laughing about you know, trust me if we're hearing about it. I It's probably not a real threat. Okay with that said, they have ways by a lot of biological warfare on black people. One way is through bad milk.

1:20:27 This is from the New York Times. These are maps of diabetes. The top map is New York City. Everybody's drinking the same drinking water. The darkest areas on the top is Harlem, where the African Americans predominate in the community. And then Bronx, the Bronx and is it Queens? I don't know New York City very well. But two other areas where minorities and poor live. Why do they have much higher rates of diabetes than the rest of the affluent part of New York City? The answer is that we discovered after Chernobyl

1:21:10 that the state milk boards are taking the most contaminated radioactive milk from dairies near nuclear power plants and they're shipping that into black inner city communities where it's sold in the mom and pop stores. Look at Africa in the bottom map. It has the lowest diabetes in the world. So how can diabetes be genetic in blacks? But they didn't have it in Africa. It's because US national policy is to genocide the black communities with radiation. Well, that's not very nice. That's rather rude. And when I heard this clip,

1:21:59 Okay, there's a show called the hunters have on Amazon. Have you seen this? I've seen the trailer. Yeah, of course and they wasn't that the one that they postponed and then they came back with it again I believe so it's about Nazi hunters. Yeah, exactly. So spoiler alert for Give people two seconds to put their fingers in the air because I'm gonna do a little spoiler alert here on this show. Um The plot of the show is, well for this season, the Nazis that were brought in through Operation Paperclip, which is a factual thing, are creating high fructose corn syrup.

1:22:43 To sell it into urban communities. Wow, I haven't heard, you know, we used to talk about this all the time, high fructose corn syrup, which now has all kinds of different names, you know, glucose or whatever, they call it different things now. Oh yeah, this is terrible shit. Yeah, so that's the plot, is they're creating that, they're like, oh, you put it in there, you know, the black people will drink anything. So, so it's, This is art imitating life imitating art because bad products they send to quote unquote urban, which urban equals black, neighborhoods. And that's from the New York Times. Well, let's keep going. They gave us bad milk and according to Mike Adams from Natural News, they also give us bad water.

CHAPTER 25 / 34 Discussion

Flint Water Crisis, Lead Poisoning, and Targeted Communities

The hosts examine the lead poisoning in Flint, Michigan, and Washington, D.C., as examples of mass poisonings occurring in predominantly black communities. They debate whether these events are direct racial targets or the result of neglect in poor neighborhoods.

flint· michigan· lead poisoning· washington dc· water supply· mike adams

1:23:41 Have you ever noticed that every mass poisoning in America, it seems, just happens to take place in black communities? I mean, think about this. Flint, Michigan, right? Detroit, basically. Lead in the water supply. Not a small amount, a massive amount, a potentially fatal amount of lead if consumed over time. Highly toxic, highly damaging to the development of the human brain. It was deliberately put into the water supply. There was a massive cover-up, carried out by white people by the way, and it targeted specifically the black community of Flint, Michigan, which is predominantly black. And this is just one of many such cases.

1:24:30 In the past, there was also this poisoning in the Washington DC water supply. Well, who lives in Washington DC? I'm talking about the residents there, not the bureaucrats who commute in but then go home in some other rich community. The people living in DC are black folks, predominantly. And that's where the poisoning took place. So there he is, bad water, you know. So we all know about Flint, but we didn't hear about it and now we don't hear about it again. Well, but so he said something a little misleading there. He said, okay, because the equation he did make, but didn't quite make was this, they, it's one thing to say they perpetrated this on poor people and look who lives in the poor neighborhood. He kind of went kind of bypassed that and went straight to, it was against black people.

1:25:23 I mean there's also brown people in the poor neighborhoods and all you know so I wouldn't call that a direct target necessarily. At least not that example. Well if you know the percentage and when I when they say people of color this is this is one of those things. You mean color people? Yeah it's not I was getting there. It's non-white and we have to go back to the definition of white. When we say white Not every white person is white. No, although I've discovered so we have to put all this we have to put all this into the right perspective when we talk about these things that is I have to admit something to you. I Did a month of ancestry calm man, I am white I'm literally coming from Scotland and I northern Ireland and

CHAPTER 26 / 34 Discussion

Vaccines, Autism in Black Boys, and Cancer Racket

The discussion covers controversial claims regarding a link between vaccines and higher autism rates in African American boys. They also discuss Mike Adams' theory that the cancer industry targets black communities in cities like Detroit by exploiting vitamin D deficiencies to sell unnecessary chemotherapy.

vaccines· autism· cdc· vitamin d· chemotherapy· detroit

1:26:20 I think I'm one of them. I may have some reptilian in me actually, but seriously, I come from bloodlines I'm afraid I might. And you know what? You might be the only white person I know. I'm actually not real, I'm a bot, just some AI. Yeah, so... I didn't mean that. No, but I'm just saying that bad milk, bad water, and How about some bad medicine? covered up statistical evidence, scientific evidence showing a link between vaccines and autism in who? Young African American boys. Not white boys, African American boys.

1:27:28 So we've got the water poisoning in Flint, we've got the water poisoning in Washington, D.C., we've got the vaccines all targeting black communities. And that's not all. Hey, do you see that as a fact, that young black boys have a higher rate of autism after vaccinations? I don't know anything about this. Here's the thing about vaccine with me. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I'm an anti-stacker. And what I mean by that is, I think when they go to give you 20 rounds of vaccines at one time, I think that's overkill.

1:28:08 Only allow my children to get the vaccines necessary to go to public schools and nothing more, right? So I'm not anti-vaxxer But I am I am an anti stacker and I all I will push back on anybody I will say that if your kids are going to get vaccines if it's and convenient to make a couple extra trips You know so you can spread them out over time. I will recommend that so yeah, but You have to put all this in the context and by the end of this you will see where I'm going with this. Why we're, as quote unquote the black community, are so skeptical. Warren, as you heard, that was the numbers from the CDC saying that black boys suffer more from autism. I mean if we're gonna believe them about the Rona.

1:29:00 I mean, we can't pick and choose what we believe from these organizations and the historical dealings that we had with these organizations. So let's go ahead and wrap up with Mr. Adams on more bad medicine. Look at the cancer industry in places like Detroit. And we've covered this extensively on Natural News, the cancer industry It is a racket that they have predatory business practices that target black men and black women because they know that those people will have more aggressive cancers because of their skin color, which blocks ultraviolet light from the sun, which generates vitamin D. So the black communities tend to be vitamin D deficient.

1:29:45 And as a result, they are more lucrative to the cancer industry. And so these predominantly white-owned cancer organizations, for-profit businesses, they set up shop in low-income black communities, then they offer free screening so they can falsely diagnose black people with cancer so they can make a fortune treating them with chemotherapy that they don't even need. Wow. So I know a lot. So I know a lot of people are saying now, Mo, here you go with the targeting. Well, you have to look back. Now, this is the point of show. We go back. Adam, are you familiar with the Tuskegee experiment? Yes. All too familiar, sadly. Very familiar with it. So this is a great backdrop.

CHAPTER 27 / 34 Discussion

Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, Bad Blood, and Deception

The hosts provide a historical deep-dive into the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, where 600 black men were misled into a 40-year study of untreated syphilis. The men were lured with promises of free healthcare for "bad blood" but were denied actual treatment even after penicillin became available.

tuskegee experiment· syphilis· macon county· bad blood· taliaferro clark

1:30:45 for the distrust that we have for these medical organizations and even doctors in general. It's weird because a lot of black people either want to look at doctors as gods on earth, and then the other half are very skeptical because of past dealings with doctors in the medical industry. With that said, Let's get into some background for the Tuskegee experiment. In 1932, the medical community still did not know a whole lot about treating syphilis. This was the case despite documentation of the disease dating all the way back to around when Columbus made his famous jaunt across the big blue.

1:31:28 According to the Oxford Journal, syphilis was a cultural embarrassment and had many different names that exemplified prejudices of different nationalities. The German and English called it the French pox. The Russians referred to it as the Polish sickness and the Poles as the German sickness. The Japanese called it the Chinese ulcer. In the 16th century, Europe experienced a syphilis epidemic. epidemic, which was likely caused by the abundance of sailors traveling from seaport to seaport and doing what sailors do when they come into port. In fact, there is some evidence that points to Columbus and his crew being the ones who brought syphilis back from the New World.

1:32:19 I already forgot what I was picking up on. The names! The French oh, yes Yeah, of course. That's when you go back earlier in the show Don't call it. No Chinese. Don't call no Wuhan flu. Don't do that. Uh-uh Right, it's right But when people are called the Russian pox or the red law French, whatever. I mean this whenever or uh, I just left that in there for whenever diseases origin from another place is gonna be identifies that place but oh no you can't do that now. In fact swine flu which I contracted swine flu and lived through it in Europe was called Mexican flu. I did not know that. Yeah yeah and of course no one calls the the Europeans out as racist but and maybe

1:33:12 There was a reason for us calling it swine flu and not calling it Mexico flu. Maybe it wasn't Mexico flu I don't know but you're right this is a it's very obvious that there's forces at work when it comes to the naming and the origin of the Rona yes, so now we're about to get into the real meat potatoes of this Tuskegee experiment So, the PHS approached the Tuskegee Institute about forming a research group in order to study the effects of untreated syphilis on a black male population for a duration of six to nine months and then follow up with a treatment plan. The Institute agreed, along with the head of the university's hospital, Dr. Eugene

1:33:52 The study, during the first year, was led by Dr. Taliaferro Clark. The PHS enrolled 600 Macon County men, 399 with syphilis and 201 who weren't infected. None of the men actually knew what the study was for. They were lured in with the promise of free health care, something none of them had, and also the treatment of bad blood, a general localized term that encompassed several different afflictions, including anemia, fatigue, and other venereal diseases. The men were told that they were going to get free medical exams, meals, and burial insurance. For those who actually had syphilis, they were never informed of their diagnosis, nor given any treatment for it.

CHAPTER 28 / 34 Discussion

Black Doctors, R.R. Moten, and Institutional Betrayal

The role of black leadership in the Tuskegee experiment is scrutinized, specifically Dr. Eugene Dibble and Tuskegee Institute President R.R. Moten. The hosts highlight how these leaders cooperated with the government to maintain white philanthropic funding, and they note Moten's history as an undercover intelligence officer.

r.r. moten· dr. dibble· tuskegee institute· john hopkins· rockefeller foundation

1:34:30 Did anyone ever actually go to jail over this? Did anyone get in trouble for this horrible experience? Of course not. Why am I even thinking that? Right. So let's get into the characters here who were at play. We have Mr. Dr. Dibble. He was the head of John Andrews Hospital at Tuskegee Institute, and he was known to say or attribute to him, he argues that a prominent black institution very much dependent upon white philanthropy could not afford in the 1930s to risk antagonizing the US government by refusing to participate in a PHS activity of this sort.

1:35:16 Wow, so this is a black doctor. Yeah. Yeah. Dr. Dibble was a black doctor and Dr. Dibble was working under one. Mr. RR Moulton. We talked about him before he was the president at the time of Let's go down. Let's see about mr. RR Moulton he's The Tuskegee experiment, one of the most infamous biological research studies in the US history, began while Moulton headed Tuskegee Institute. A clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972. This was supposed to last six to nine months and lasted 40 years. Yeah, well surely we put up a statue of this fine man for this great work that he's done?

1:36:07 Well, we do name elementary schools after him because there is a RR Moten Elementary School. But let me continue on. Moten endorsed the study and provided institutional resources including medical personnel. The study was finally shut down in 1972 amid ethical controversy. It says Moten sat on the boards of major philanthropic organizations with the likes of Andrew Carnegie and John D Rockefeller Jr as his influences with it and his influence was considerable. So let's go back up here when Mr. Dibble, Dr. Dibble said we can't, we're very much dependent on white philanthropy so they can't antagonize the U.S. government so that's what they were talking about those gentlemen there. And just another side note

1:37:01 On January 3rd, 2009, a U.S. district judge stated that John Hopkins University, Bristol Myers Squibb, and the Rockefeller Foundation must face a $1 billion lawsuit for their roles in a similar experiment affecting Guatemalans. Wow. So, but take that all in. Did they pay a billion dollars to the families of the Tuskegee experiment? Well, we're going to get to the payout, but first we've talked about Mr. R.R. Moulton on this show before and in the throwback clip, let's talk about Tuskegee's Moulton Hall. The United States Army Office of Intelligence hired a black man by the name of R.R. Moulton. This is going to blow people's minds.

1:37:50 Booker T. Washington's vice principal at Tuskegee Institute, undercover intelligence officer for the United States Army, whose job was to spy on Booker T., because they were concerned that he was using Tuskegee. And they were correct, and they're suspicious, as a hideout for black revolutionaries away from the Klan and away from the government. Oh yeah, that was one of our early shows I think. Uh-huh, that's Mr. R.R. Moulton. And Mr. Dr. Dibble, he worked in and out for the, we would go come to the university, then he would go back to the Veteran Affairs, the VA. So there's military ties there. But you asked the question, I think the next clip will answer your question about the payout. Let's get into Experiment 3.

CHAPTER 29 / 34 Discussion

Tuskegee Settlement, Classism, and the Bill Clinton Apology

The conclusion of the Tuskegee story details the horrific medical procedures performed on the subjects and the eventual $9 million settlement in 1973. The hosts discuss the class divide between the elite black doctors and the poor subjects, noting that the victims received only a formal apology from Bill Clinton decades later.

spinal taps· fred gray· bill clinton· classism· settlement

1:38:44 Additionally, very painful and unnecessary spinal taps were performed on many people in the study. It was said that the reason for the deception was that it would be the only way the men would stay in the study and the researchers wanted to closely observe the course of the disease over a large sample size to see the effects as the disease progressed. But not to worry, because as long as the ones that died allowed autopsies to be performed, their funeral expenses would be covered. It was actually not an uncommon practice at the time of taking the government's consent in medical matters rather than the individual's. But in part, the deception seemed to result from the lack of respect that the doctors had for

1:39:22 the men's intellectual capabilities. Most were illiterate, which the researchers thought was helpful as it would be harder for the subjects to figure out what was going on. There were also less than subtle hints of racial prejudice. For example, in a letter to a colleague, Dr. Clark wrote that these Negroes are very ignorant and easily influenced by things that would be of minor significance in a more intelligent group. for other well with that with that said I have a little bit more background on Mr. Dibble and he said it has been suggested that their their participation could also be accounted due to the class divisions between black positions and the black community are we picking up the bullae vibes yet yeah for sure

1:40:08 Black upper middle class physicians do not identify themselves with the poor black community. Therefore, their participation in a syphilis study was an attempt to prove to the white medical community of their capability in medical research. Wow, that's black on black crime, bro. And that's why he has no problem when I say he, I'm talking about Mr. Oliver Brooks, Dr. Oliver Brooks has no problem with putting Boulle in his bio. His bio is right there. He's letting them know I'm not those lower class blacks. I always thought Dr. Huxable was also Boulle. Of course!

1:40:51 That's what that was about. It was, um, it had positive, the Cosby Show had positive, but that was, that was, that was, that's what that was about. Uh, the Cosby Show going to the different world, uh, that spinoff of the Cosby Show was about we're different from them. Oh man, look at us different. So yeah, I didn't get your answer. I think this last clip may answer about the payout, but yes, this is definitely classism within the black, the quote unquote black community. But let's get into experiment four. The study administrators wanted to watch the progression of the disease as the men got sick and, in many cases, died for the 40 years that the study went on, even though for much of it a relatively effective treatment was available. All total, it's estimated that 128 of the men died either directly from syphilis or complications related to it.

1:41:43 Forty also infected their wives, and in some cases possibly others, and there were 19 of the men's children who were born with congenital syphilis. Finally, on July 25, 1972, Gene Heller of the Associated Press broke the story that uncovered the truth about the study. A government panel ruled that the study was ethically unjustified and ended it. In the summer of 1973, attorney Fred Gray filed a class action suit on behalf of the men against the PHS and it ended with $9 million, which is about $50 million today, being handed out to participants as settlement. No, what I'm laying out here is one while we're skeptical. Oh, I got you. Well, you're skeptical of these being operations and and and different types of experiments. It's it's historically absolutely true. It's happened in my lifetime, right? And it's amazing how No one talks about the real things that happen. That's why I said if we're hearing about it, I ain't worried.

1:42:58 It's the ones that we don't hear about to 40 years later. Right? All of a sudden you're a YouTube story. Exactly. So that's the point I'm trying to make and I know a lot of people are going to say, well, Mo, that was in 1930s to 1970s. Let me stop. Come on. Yeah. Well, that's still a long time ago, but You asked the question about the payout. It was like equivalent to today's money, 40, 50 million dollars. So that was for 623 men that were eventually enrolled in the program and all the people they impacted, family members, wives, girlfriends, children, everything. 50 million dollars equivalent today, but the Guatemalans get one billion. How does that work out? Hold on, hold on, hold on. African Americans got an apology from Bill Clinton.

CHAPTER 30 / 34 Discussion

Depo-Provera, Ethiopian Jews, and Black Box Warnings

Dr. Randy Short discusses the forced administration of the contraceptive Depo-Provera to Ethiopian Jewish women in Israel. The conversation shifts to the drug's prevalence in the U.S. black community and the 2004 FDA "black box" warning regarding its severe side effects, including bone density loss and increased HIV susceptibility.

depo-provera· israel· ethiopian jews· randy short· fda· black box warning

1:43:53 Oh that's true. You know that's worth 250 grand an hour I hear for a speech so you know it's a little add that to the key. Well how long does the apology take? Maybe a minute? So you divide it by 60 so still. About 800 bucks maybe. Yeah come on. Well I know a lot of people say well Mo that was 1940s and the 1970s to 1972 things Don't happen. I know I know where we're going of course, of course they don't know to RT dr. Randy short For several years, the Israeli government was forcibly administering birth control to a segment of its minority population, with doctors injecting Ethiopian Jewish women against their will with a contraceptive, Deprovera. But it wasn't until this January that a government official finally acknowledged it. And while the government has finally put an end to this inhumane, insane population control tactic,

1:44:49 The story has shed a light on a dangerous contraceptive that's now being pushed and administered on women of color all over the world, including right here in the US. So here to talk about the use of Deprovera and how this is targeting minority populations in both here and abroad, I'm joined now by Randy Short, president and national spokesperson for the Anti-Deprovera Clergy Coalition. Deprovera. Yes. Okay. Go ahead. the depo shot. Yes. Oh my goodness. Which is well known in our community. It was pushed as the alternative to oral contraception that you take. And as an aside, one of the things they told you, oh girl, yeah, make you thick too. Literally.

1:45:39 Literally there were YouTube videos on this whole YouTube saying how the depot shot made you think and for the people to not know what thick means make you curvaceous Which is good. Yes, which is good if you're skinny So yeah, if you were skinny woman or you know, you wanted curves they had a was they were they they're even sell it to this day Well to me I'm getting ahead of myself. Well Very interesting. I did not know this about about The black customer. Uh-huh Bet you they saw I bet you they they sold they they must have gotten that message out there makes you thick makes you curvy Oh, yeah Well, this is the role of the boulé They go to the boulé. Hey, how can we sell this product to the um, you know to your community, you know And then they you know, they come. Oh, well, you know, we like curbs, you know Oh

1:46:38 Yes, so but dr. Randy short he does great work, so he's very colorful with his language But luckily he was on a proper news show so I was able to clip him for this But let's get into sterilizing minorities too. Can you talk about what you know about the health effects though? Because obviously women were being administered this for years without knowing about them. Well, the drug was first patented in 1959 by the middle sixties. There are a lot of unethical experimentations done in particular, the Grady clinic study and Georgia on poor black and poor white women. God knows how many people died.

1:47:14 This drug did not get approved until 1993-94, but during that time that was used on women all over. The effects of it are serious. Yes, what are the effects of it? Okay, we're going to get into the effects of it in the next clip, but at the point you made, it's targeting towards poor people, but the quote-unquote black community falls heavily And to the, you know, the poor community. Sure. So I wanted to point that out as well. But, okay, let's get into the side effects. Excessive bleeding, osteoporosis, breast cancer, cervical cancer, heart attack, stroke, ectopic pregnancies, excessive weight gain, which can lead to type one or two diabetes, excessive weight gain, which can lead to type one or two diabetes, short or long-term infertility,

1:48:13 maternal death. It strips the epithelium, the inner part of the woman's womb, making her more susceptible to all STIs and STDs. Therefore, doubling the chances of getting HIV AIDS, Chlamydia, HPV, Gonorrhea or Syphilis. And there are other things that bothers the mental health. One of the things that's come to us that the group that I work with, the Rebecca Project, is that many women are telling us that they've had mental problems. The FDA in 2004 was so concerned about the dangerous nature of Depo-Provera that they issued a black box warning, which is the most serious warning that can be issued by the FDA about how dangerous this drug is. And despite this warning, this black box warning, it's still being administered.

CHAPTER 31 / 34 Discussion

Planned Parenthood, Depo-Provera Marketing, and Side Effects

The hosts critique Planned Parenthood’s marketing of the Depo-Provera shot, noting that promotional videos from 2010 and 2015 downplay the risks associated with the drug. They highlight the contradiction between the drug's safety claims and the known medical risks mentioned in the black box warning.

planned parenthood· progestin· contraception· stds· marketing

1:49:01 under multiple agencies to multiple countries around the world. Yes. Who is administering it? Why and where? Yes. Yes. Don't stop the clip. Want to know, is this still distributed in the United States? There's some digging around the YouTube and I found a pro depo video depo pervera, the birth control shot. Is pregnancy not in your plans for the immediate future? Are you looking for birth control you can count on but don't have to think about every day? You might want to consider Depro-Provera, the birth control shot. The shot prevents pregnancy for 12 weeks. That's about three whole months of not having to worry about getting pregnant. And it's easy.

1:49:44 A quick visit with your health care provider, a little poke and you're covered for 12 weeks. No one even needs to know you're using birth control. How does it work? Well, the shot contains a hormone. It prevents your body from releasing an egg. It also thickens the mucus of your cervix to make it harder for sperm to enter your uterus. And it's effective. Fewer than 1 in 100 women will get pregnant each year if they get the shot every 12 weeks. The shot doesn't protect against sexually transmitted infections. Use condoms if you're concerned about preventing STDs. And like other hormonal medications, the shot may have some side effects. If you're interested in learning more about this method, check out the info on plannedparenthood.org. You can even find the nearest health center to set up an appointment.

1:50:31 And there it is finally the eugenics association of America in its new jacket rears its ugly head once again as this video is from 2010 is still up on their website up on their YouTube channel And this is six years after they were forced to put the black black box label on this on this product They're still pushing it and then they say oh yeah, it doesn't stop. It doesn't stop STDs No, it doubles the chances of you getting one Hello even more just cynical is you know marketing this through YouTube this clearly this is you know this is a Intended whether it's it's just amateurish by itself or intended specifically. It's it's like hey Hey girls. Don't worry about it were these black girls in the video and

1:51:22 No, this is the official Planned Parenthood YouTube channel. What? Yes! The official! But hold on! Wait, it gets better or worse depending on how you look at it. How effective is the birth control shot? The birth control shot is safe and convenient. One little shot every three months gives you great pregnancy protection. That means you only have to think about birth control four times a year. The shot uses the hormone progestin to prevent pregnancy, but it doesn't stop the spread of STDs. So use a condom along with a shot to help protect yourself. Like other medications, the birth control shot has possible side effects, but they usually go away in a few months. It also has plenty of benefits, like making your periods lighter or even making your period stop altogether while you're on it. The shot is private. Only you and your doctor need to know you're using it. And it's super effective as long as you get your shot on time, every time. Want to get the birth control shot? Your nearest Planned Parenthood health center is here to help.

1:52:25 Hey, all right, next question. Who manufactures this fine drug, this Deprovera? I didn't look into it. Oh, no, no, he said it in the... Is it Pfizer? He said it in the previous clip and I glossed over it. It's alright, I'll find it. You can look it up. But yeah, well this is also from the official Planned Parenthood YouTube channel. And the date? 2015. 11 years after the Black Box label. Now tell me exactly how the Black Box label works. Do you know any details about this?

1:53:02 No, I don't but I mean we you want to go back and listen to I think clip 33 she explains it how it works But I mean just I mean I got time you got it. Well, I just want to see Here this will be what does it mean if my medications a black box warning? Black box warning also called boxed warnings are required by the US Food and Drug Administration for certain medications that carry serious safety risks. Yeah, this was mentioned in the clip. Often these warnings communicate potential rare but dangerous side effects or they may be used to communicate important instructions for safe use of the drug. They appear printed in bold font surrounded by a black border. I'm sure none of that was on the YouTube video, of course. No, it's safe. It's 2015. It's safe. Wow.

CHAPTER 32 / 34 Discussion

Margaret Sanger, Eugenics, and The Negro Project

The history of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger is explored, focusing on her ties to the eugenics movement and "The Negro Project." The hosts argue that Sanger’s strategy involved using black community leaders to promote population control, a legacy they believe continues through modern clinical placements.

margaret sanger· eugenics· the negro project· euthanasia· birth control

1:53:49 It's completely safe. Don't worry about it. What's your problem? It's all good. Yeah. Well. Let's get to some background on Planned Parenthood, 700 Club One. Back to Planned Parenthood, they get $550 million of taxpayer money to continue their work. They're the largest abortion provider in the nation and you're paying for it. So in any event, Margaret Sanger was the founder of Planned Parenthood.

1:54:24 and go back and read her writings. She wrote a monograph that I read called Breeding the Thoroughbred. And what Margaret Sanger believed was there were defective, genetically defective people. They were Roman Catholics. They were evangelical Protestants, they were Southern Europeans, they were Latinos and especially they were African Americans. And what she advocated was find a leader among the black community that is highly respected, him be our spokesperson and lead the black people toward euthanasia. That was the game. Yes, this is Margaret Sanger, very well known, but somehow this

1:55:15 This history gets disputed and people don't want to talk about it and you get shouted down if you say, hey man, it's kind of odd how Planned Parenthood came out of the eugenics movement and how you put a lot of these clinics in poor neighborhoods. And with that background, it's like a death camp program. And I don't want to get into a pro-life or whatever. That's not the issue. No, no, no. I'm not trying to go there. I'm glad you said that because I'm not going there. I'm talking about these other services that we offer. Let's take pro-life, pro-choice off the table because whatever your beliefs are, your beliefs are. I'm talking about these, what they always say. We offer other services besides that. And one of those services is the depot shop.

1:55:59 And the problem I have with that is all these black talking heads, and I'm gonna say this, I'm a little irked right now, but all of these black talking heads, they sit up here and want to, oh, the Wuhan, you can't say Wuhan, oh no, you can't say that, while women are still getting the depo shot. Which actually, if you want to look at it in a sense of, makes them more susceptible to catching the coronavirus. Good point. high blood pressure, hypertension, I mean, I mean, same thing, diabetes, compromised immune system, STDs, yeah. But nobody talks about that, but you can't, oh, we can't call the, can't call the, call it the Wuhan virus or whatever you want to call it. No, we can't say that. But yeah, the Wuhan, can't call it the Wuhan virus. Oh no, it can't call it that. But now people are still getting this shot

CHAPTER 33 / 34 Discussion

Coronavirus Legislation, Planned Parenthood Funding, and Community Distrust

The hosts discuss reports that the Coronavirus Response Act (HR 6201) included funding for Planned Parenthood, linking it back to the theme of institutional distrust. They emphasize that their critique is not about the pro-life/pro-choice debate, but about the "poisonous" nature of specific services pushed on the black community.

hr 6201· funding· eugenics· medical distrust· poison

1:57:00 Yeah, that's pretty bad. You know, as a side note, and I don't know if it's in the House bill that passed, but there was a problem with the HR 6201, which is the Family's First Coronavirus Response Act. And it was being held up because what I've read, I saw some evidence of it, but there was apparently money being appropriated in this, you know, it's a big bill so it's a lot of money, to go towards Planned Parenthood clinics and abortions.

1:57:45 It's how port works. I know, but it's kind of coincidental in, you know, here we have, you know, yet another disease, we have something going on, and you know, at least whatever is happening is being used for Something that seems unrelated, but is it really I mean wow man We got to start tracking our black brothers and sisters if they're coming down with the Wuhan or not Right and we got to keep tracking these boulay people because the reason why I come so hard Let me explain something I know I don't want go long But I want to explain this one thing just for people to understand the reason why I go so hard on the boulay is this You can't see them coming

1:58:34 Anybody else you can see coming, but your own infiltrator, you can't see him coming and they're way more impactful and effective as doing the dirty work. Because as you heard in the clip with Roland Martin and Dr. Oliver Brooks, Yeah, when they have dead bodies everywhere, I mean, he's pushing the narrative. Somebody put the battery, he's politicizing it. He doesn't use his platform to bring attention to the things. I brought attention to this ongoing to this day. Flint water still sucks. No, that's not his job. Of course not. His job is to do what Margaret Sanger said. You know, it's either the pulpit, the black robe of the pastor or the white coat of the doctor. That's what they wanted.

1:59:25 But with that said, let's wrap up with the second clip on Planned Parenthood. The Nazis, on the other hand, had a term useless eaters. They found people that they thought were defective and they wanted to sterilize them and of course, ultimately murder them. We can't have a concept of people who can be destroyed by the government. It's not good. And yet, We have that this country and the big money the big money the Rockefeller Foundation and others went to support Planned Parenthood Why because the big but people did not want to have a welfare roles cluttered with black babies that they had to pay for

2:00:15 You know, believe me when I say that white people especially, when they hear, they can hardly believe this. That doesn't make sense. That can't be in our lifetime that that was taking place. No, I'm not kidding. No, I'm laughing because it's very true because it's like, no, it can't work like that. And that's why we do this show, to tell people when you deal with people not like you, You have to walk in their shoes for a minute. Just put them on for a minute, walk in their shoes, that way you can understand the anger and the angst and the lack of trust and being skeptical of the who, you know, the who, oh, it was the who or, you know, or with the CDC.

2:01:08 Yeah, I mean this is where the angst comes from. And I'd say this, nice performative, I'll say this about that. You can't walk in someone else's shoes. It doesn't work that way. Which is why this show to me is fantastic because it's just pure ignorance. There's no way I could know, how could I ever know how you, how How you feel about things or why you look at things a certain way only by the honesty of talking about it Do we hear it and then if you take a second to listen like wow, okay. Well, that's messed up. Got it Yeah, yeah, that's why this show is so bad I mean I'm saying that because I'm part of it but this is why this show is so valuable because we give something and

2:01:54 We give something to people that you can't get anywhere else. I have not found it. If it's out there, I have not found it. I haven't! No, it's... you know, there's a lot of people really tuning into this and I'm happy they are because this puts a whole new perspective on things but also kind of outrages me. You know, it's like, what? Is this still going on? At least I have something else to bitch about Planned Parenthood about that's not, you know, not your typical bitch. It's like, this is outrageous. And it's an effective one because like I said, you could take the. The hot button off the table. We're not talking about that. I don't even want to say it. Just did not enjoy. Let's take that off the table. Let's talk about all these great services that you provide to the community like like depo. And I'm not against birth control either, but what is up with this shit? This has to go black. It's poison. It is poison. Totally poison. What the heck?

CHAPTER 34 / 34 Discussion

WHO Dog Update, Quarantine Song, and Sign-off

The show concludes with a lighthearted update from the WHO stating that dogs cannot contract COVID-19. The hosts sign off with a parody song about "quarantining with me," encouraging listeners to maintain their mental health and follow hygiene guidelines during the lockdown.

world health organization· dogs· quarantine· social distance· cdc

2:02:56 As I digress, I don't like to end the show on a negative note because it's not what we do here. Karen Hunter gave us a, her being her, gave us a silver lining for the whole of the-rona. Come on, breaking news, Smiths. Bring it in. Bring it in. Nothing. Okay, so this just came in. The World Health Organization has announced that dogs cannot contract COVID-19. Dogs previously held in quarantine can now be released. To be clear, who let the dogs out? 8-6-7-8. No, actually, that was funny. There you go. All right. That was not bad. Who let the dogs out? Okay, I get it.

2:03:49 Yes, much more positive note well so a couple things mode this was an interesting ride I like I like I like the way you did I of course I was aware of a lot of these things but not depo that that was a new one to me I really want to know and sadly we're just not getting the numbers but I really would like to know if you know if you hear and we'll be talking next week I'm sure we'll all be hunkered down in quarantine by then in fact my daughter who's in Rotterdam we're doing the show here she said listen to this man it's a zombie town here by the way apparently we might get a curfew after this week just went to the supermarket everything was gone

2:04:26 Send beans and toilet paper dad. Okay, so that's it But curfew, you know who knows what could happen But I'd like to know you know if if you hear of anything any African American Any dark-skinned person in general getting this the reason why I include the sports portion of this show is let's keep our eye on the NBA numbers I think that'll be a great It has to be huge. It has to be huge. Half of the whole league has to have it. You know, just the games they played, the sweat they exchanged. The nasty ball. The nasty-ass ball. All of that stuff. It's gotta be. Thank you for always being skeptical. I really appreciate it. And I like how your mind works because it's not dissimilar to mine but you come with other data points and that's really nice. It's good to hear. And I appreciate you doing this. Good to be a part of it.

2:05:22 And that's what I do. I pay attention to everything so the truth will reveal itself. Well, you don't get to leave like that. No, no. I get to tell everybody this is value for value this this program. Did you enjoy what you just heard? You sat here with for us with two hours. Maybe you were doing something else. It's actually bonus. You got an extra bonus. You were doing some other work and you're able to learn what you did. Please let us know if you found any value in it. Support us at MoFacts.com or go directly to our donation page at MoFundMe.com, M-O-E Fund Me dot com. And I will close on this last statement. Your mental health is just as important as your physical health. You can put your hand on mine.

2:06:11 Once you've washed it for the recommended 20 seconds time, we should listen to the CDC. Do you want to quarantine with me? You and me in bed alone I'll go beneath the covers and pretend like I am the Dow Jones The government should give us tests for free Do you want to quarantine with me?

2:07:00 We can shut the world outside It's crazy times, let's stay high And keep our social distance We can stock our fridge with food The smell of lice all sets the mood I wouldn't want to miss this After 14 days are done

2:07:38 We'll walk outside and breathe fresh air and lie beneath the golden sun. For now let's lock the door and toss the key. Do you want to quarantine with me? Three's a risk but two is company Do you want to quarantine with me?