Sunday, 23 August 2020

47: Killer Wasp

A deep investigation into the intersection of genetic medicine and social engineering reveals how the American elite use pharmaceutical mandates and cultural etiquette to maintain a rigid caste system.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 2h 57m listen | 49 chapters
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About this episode

The World Health Organization and Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus face intense scrutiny following controversial proposals by French scientists Jean-Paul Mira and Camille Locht to test COVID-19 vaccines in Africa. While the WHO condemned the remarks as colonialist, the incident has reignited a global debate over medical ethics, racial narratives in pharmaceutical marketing, and the political influence of the Chinese Communist Party and the Gates Foundation on international health policy.

Secondary developments include the NIAID and Moderna fast-tracking mRNA technology, which Dr. Kizmika Corbett describes as a genetic instruction for cells to produce spike proteins. This push for rapid immunization is met with skepticism from figures like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Pastor Charles Lawson, who cite the Tuskegee experiment and concerns over germline gene editing. Meanwhile, a Mayo Clinic study reveals that African Americans exhibit higher antibody responses to the rubella vaccine, challenging the industry's one-size-fits-all approach and fueling a move toward personalized, genetic-based medicine. In the hip-hop community, artists like Kevin Gates and Willie D of the Geto Boys voice concerns over mercury and the CDC whistleblower claims regarding autism disparities.

Distinctive moments include a deep dive into the 'Killer Wasp' metaphor, where Adam Curry and Mo explore the rigid etiquette of the American WASP elite. They contrast the 'presidential' aesthetic of Joe Biden with the braggadocious style of Donald Trump, while reflecting on the historical 'one-drop rule' and the social engineering strategies used to neutralize minority leadership. The episode features a musical outro with the Honeybee song and a breakdown of why wealthy parents in Malibu are opting out of the very mandates pushed on lower-income populations.


CHAPTER 01 / 49 Discussion

Introduction, Value for Value Model and Killer Wasps

Adam Curry and Mo introduce episode 47 of the podcast, discussing the "Value for Value" funding model where listeners contribute based on the utility they receive. Mo teases the day's primary subject, initially titled "Killer Wasps," which serves as a metaphorical entry point into a deeper investigation of vaccines and social engineering.

adam curry· mo facts· value for value· killer wasps· podcasting

00:02 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for August 22nd, 2020. This is episode number 47. Has he been eaten by his dog or did the dog eat his homework? Hey Mo. How is the pup? How you doing Adam? Good man. How's the pup? How's the pup doing? Everything's good with him. He's a busy body, but he's integrating to the family just fine. Yeah. I got the early morning shifts. I was gonna say, I was gonna say, so you're early morning. How's the training overnight? Is he hanging in there? Yeah, we're creating him now. He wants about 30 minutes, but then he quiets down. So he's a good dog. Good dog. Well, good. Good, Mo. And we're on schedule. It's a Saturday. We're dropping it as we're supposed to.

01:00 Which is good, this is good, we have progress, we're improving. This is a value for value production. It means very simply you can listen to it anytime you want, costs nothing, but if you found anything of value we'd just like you to put that into a number and send it off to support the show, to support the work. You can find that at mofundme.com or of course any information at mofax.com. And today is episode 47. I have to say it was hard for me not to realize what the topic would be just with a quick glance at your clip list. I'm very excited about this. This is stuff that I've always wanted to know from a different perspective. Well, I guess to find out you gotta spin that wheel. All righty, here we go. It's the Wheel of Topics for MoFax number 47. Where it stops nobody knows, but obviously Mo does know and you're gonna love this one I'm pretty sure. What is the topic for today's MoFax? The biggest wasp on the planet.

02:00 the biggest wasp on the planet the bee sting the wasp sting killer wasps yes definitely killer wasp okay definitely killer wasp that's a great so this is gonna be one of those ones I started off in one direction Down the rabbit hole and I took a hard right somewhere and ended up in a total different place. So please bear with me I think it'll be a exciting ride, but okay. I'm ready for it. I am I'm Buckled in I guess we can jump in number two to number two then

CHAPTER 02 / 49 Discussion

WHO Rejects COVID-19 Vaccine Testing in Africa

The World Health Organization (WHO) condemned suggestions by French scientists Jean-Paul Mira and Camille Locht regarding testing COVID-19 vaccines in Africa. WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus labeled the remarks as racist and a vestige of colonial mentality. The scientists later apologized, claiming their comments about using Africa as a testing ground were misunderstood.

world health organization· tedros adhanom ghebreyesus· africa· covid-19 vaccine· jean-paul mira

02:39 Thanks for staying with us. Time now for Eye on Africa with me, Georgia Calvin-Smith. Tonight, the WHO strongly rejects the controversial suggestions made by French scientists last week that coronavirus vaccine testing should happen in Africa. Critics of the on-air remarks have slammed them for being racist and born of a damaging colonial outlook. But first, the head of the WHO has condemned suggestions made on air by French scientists last week that potential coronavirus vaccines should be tested in Africa. Jean-Paul Mira, head of intensive care at the Cochin hospital in Paris,

03:15 first asked if he could be provocative before questioning Camille Locht, head of research at the National Institute of Health and Medical Research in Lille, whether a study into using the BCG vaccine should happen in Africa. He compared it to past studies into AIDS that tested treatments on prostitutes. WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus was one of many who condemned the tone of the conversation as being racist. Yeah, now I've studied vaccines for a long time. I've been following the development, but following the financial path, following the regulation, but I've also looked extensively into HIV, Gates Foundation, Africa. So I'm very curious what rabbit holes you found and if they cross over any of the tunnels I may have left behind in the past.

04:07 Yeah, so what we're gonna do it here is we're gonna start looking at the narrative of getting So-called black people vaccinated. Yes, and it's starting in Africa the killer wasp are in Africa and they're um They're raining or wreaking havoc all over. You know the African people. I think the testing has just started in South Africa Yeah under a lot of pushback and um, so this is a clip from France 24 and And the following clip will be from the same report, but featuring Dr. Tedros. To be honest, I was so appalled and it was a time when I said when we needed solidarity, this kind of racist remarks actually would not help. It goes against the solidarity. Africa cannot

05:05 and will not be a testing ground for any vaccine. We will follow all the rules to test any vaccine or therapeutics all over the world using exactly the same rule. Whether it's in Europe, Africa or wherever, we will use the same protocol and if there is a need to be tested anywhere to treat human beings the same way equally. and the hangover from a colonial mentality has to stop. And WHO will not allow this to happen. Now the doctors have apologized for any offense caused and say that they've been misunderstood.

CHAPTER 03 / 49 Discussion

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, China Connections and Medical Background

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus faces scrutiny regarding his non-medical background and political ties to the Chinese Communist Party. Critics highlight his history as a health minister in Ethiopia and his relationship with the Gates Foundation and Clinton Global Health Initiative. The discussion suggests his pro-vaccine stance may be influenced by personal loss and international political lobbying.

tedros adhanom ghebreyesus· china· ethiopia· bill gates· world health organization

05:52 Africa has seen far fewer cases of COVID-19 than Europe, the United States and the Middle East. Okay, a couple things. I just fill in a couple things here before you get to that last bit. One, Tedros is a... I want to say he's from Nigeria. Ethiopia. Formerly Ethiopia, it's now Eritrea. Yes, and it was the Chinese Communist Party who lobbied for him to get this job. There's a huge commercial bridge between what is formerly known as Ethiopia and China, which as far as I know never closed during the pandemic.

06:32 And so Tedros is, he's 100% shill. He's not a medical doctor, even though they call him Dr. Tedros to give him that kind of Dr. Jill Biden medical vibe. Yeah, I was gonna make that point that he's not actually, I got five things here. There may be problems with Mr. Doctor, excuse me, Dr. Tedros. One, he's not actually a medical doctor. Correct. He has a master's degree in immunology. Two, he's a far-left politician that was put in place by China that you mentioned before. Number three, he exhibits very poor judgment when he was dealing with in Zimbabwe.

07:20 Yes, it was scandalous. It was scandalous. There are some issues there that we might talk about later on. Number four is the China connection that you made and then five, he's been an awful health minister. I think he may be swayed and pro-vaccines because he lost a brother. Due to the measles uh-huh so it would have nothing else with money and power yeah We always talk about the human aspect of these people that's a good point what may shape them How we did it with Trump we did it with Obama we do everybody basically look at the human side of them and he might believe

08:06 It helps to do what you do if you actually believe it. And so I think maybe he actually believes that he's doing a good thing and he can line his pockets at the same time. Yeah, and just on the vaccination of Africans in general, The Gates Foundation has a poor record, particularly in combination with the Clinton Global Health Initiative, where they literally bought crap vaccines from some French company and unloaded them on unwilling kids. And a lot of them died. And this is documented. In fact, they'll put it in the show notes. And the bad blood scandal. I mean, and the bad blood scandal. Yeah, with the cancer and it was all kinds of weird stuff. Yeah.

CHAPTER 04 / 49 Discussion

Racial Narratives in Vaccine Promotion and Hydroxychloroquine

The media rollout of black medical professionals to promote vaccines is identified as a targeted narrative strategy for the African American community. Low COVID-19 rates in Africa are contrasted with the high impact in the United States, leading to speculation about the role of anti-malarial drugs like hydroxychloroquine. The conversation explores how the virus was initially perceived versus how it is currently marketed to different ethnic groups.

hydroxychloroquine· malaria· africa· racial demographics· vaccine narrative

08:47 Just to give you a little background on dr. Tedros, let me say this before I go into this next clip. I'm starting to see Brown doctors being rolled out. There was one medical doctor. They rolled out It was older black lady or appear to be an older black lady and she was all for getting black people vaccinated You have dr. Tedros where he appears to be black and But he's not a toss. Let's let's point it out, but he's 100% African. Yes So the you start to see this like why I notice these things that why they roll in these same people these same looking people with the same similar appearances out to do the talking and you'd have Africa which has one of the lowest per capita

09:39 which we believe may be because they already take a lot of hydroxychloroquine to count as prophylaxis for malaria etc. What am I thinking of not malaria? is malaria? No it's malaria, it's malaria, it's anti-malarial diseases. I mean anti-malarial medicines that they take which may have suppressed because the first show we did on the Rona, we talked about the low numbers in Africa and that leading to the speculation that black people couldn't catch COVID. Which it has been debunked now. I think we know by now that's not true, yes. And it went, the pendulum went all the way to the other that you know basically

CHAPTER 05 / 49 Discussion

HPV Vaccine Marketing and Gardasil Controversy

The WHO is actively promoting the HPV vaccine to eliminate cervical cancer, a move some view as a marketing push to recover lost revenue during the pandemic. The history of Gardasil is examined, including its expansion from young girls to boys and the use of celebrity spokespeople like Michael Douglas. Concerns are raised regarding the side effects reported by groups of young women following the initial administration of the vaccine.

hpv vaccine· gardasil· cervical cancer· michael douglas· marketing

10:24 We're the face of Corona, even though it does come from China. It's actually a racist virus. It's going after going after black and brown people, apparently. Apparently so. So I did a little homework on Dr. Tedros and the coronavirus vaccine is not the only vaccine he's pushing for. Every two minutes, a woman loses her life to cervical cancer. This disease represents our collective failure to protect women from a preventable disease. Two years ago, WHO launched an initiative to eliminate cervical cancer. Since then, we have worked with our partners to develop a unified strategy to achieve that goal.

11:12 Our aim is to drive cervical cancer below 4 per 100,000 women in every country within a century, preventing over 70 million deaths. The idea of eliminating any cancer was once considered a pipe dream. We now have the evidence and the tools that show it can be done. Vaccination, screening, treatment, palliative care. We cannot cherry-pick. We must pursue them all. The COVID-19 pandemic has disrupted many essential health services and is likewise a risk to services for cervical cancer.

12:00 It's vital that countries ensure routine services such as vaccination and cancer screening continue with the appropriate safety precautions. Let me guess, is this the Gardasil HPV vaccine that he's talking about? Yes, and this happened at the 33rd International Human Pavlova virus conference. And this was from July 20th through the 24th on 2020. And I think a lot of companies are like, hey, y'all are stepping on our vaccine. So he had to go out and... Oh, Mo, definitely. Oh, I mean, we were talking about it a couple of days ago on No Agenda, Twindemic, it's the same thing. Hey, hey, hey, what about the flu vaccine? We got to sell that too, man. Yeah, it could be a Twindemic. We got to get the flu vaccine. Oh yeah, it's a big marketing push right now.

12:58 So it could be a tridemic. I mean, yes, because I mean you're pushing the cervical cancer as well. So I think a lot of companies is like, hey, you shut down our our flow because people are scared to go to the hospital, scared to go get treatments, vaccines and all those things. These these other companies like, hey, we got the long game going here. Like you said, the flu shot, that's where you see the Twin Demick popping up and then he's pushed out here pushing in the middle of the COVID. Yeah, he has to go out and still push for the HPV. Like Dr. Tedros, I am not a medical doctor, but I can tell you that of the, I believe, 23 different strains, the HPV guard is, we studied this extensively, but really the marketing side is the most interesting. It really only can protect you against three different versions of it.

13:54 But the marketing would start off towards, of course, mothers, girls, young girls. They were hanging pack info packets on college dorm room doorknobs. They then, of course, they said, oh, not a boy's got to have it, too, because, you know, for your cervix. So that and, you know, and there's some some evidence that HPV can cause throat cancer, which was really kind of thrown into the Into the media when Michael Douglas said he got throat cancer from oral sex with his wife Which he later said you gotta have the celebrity pitch man Yeah, it really worked and then later it wasn't true but cat was out of the bag and And of course when this first was administered there were all kinds of weird effects there were groups of girls who could only walk backwards we're all

14:48 ticking and going making crazy noises. It was really when that first started it was quite intense to see what was going on. So we have history of vaccines being a problem, especially for so-called, quote unquote, black people. And let's just say I don't think we're anti-vaxxers. We're just having a conversation here in general. But I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I am an anti-stacker. So I don't think you should give four or five or ten different vaccines at once. How about 67? 67 total. I mean, that's what your kids, I'm sure they're trying to get your kids to take all that crap.

CHAPTER 06 / 49 Discussion

Mayo Clinic Study on Racial Differences in Vaccine Response

A Mayo Clinic study reveals that African Americans exhibit significantly higher antibody responses to the rubella vaccine compared to other populations. This finding challenges the "one size fits all" approach to immunology and supports the move toward personalized or individualized medicine. The legal classification of vaccines as "biologics" is also noted, which provides manufacturers with indemnification from lawsuits.

mayo clinic· rubella vaccine· african americans· biologics· personalized medicine

15:28 And then on top of that, we have this next set of clips that come from the Mayo Clinic. Let me just set it up for a second. They study Somali Americans, but they just refer to it as African Americans. So we have this This is a description from the video it says Somali Americans well I won't give it away but that cuz it give too much but they've they found this interesting phenomenon and just to say I don't have the doctor's name because they didn't have it but it's from the Mayo Clinic and we'll just refer to him as Dr. Polkham. The most outstanding and to some degree unexpected difference that we found is that African-Americans have much higher antibody responses to this viral vaccine, rubella, than we have seen in any other population.

16:29 Why would that be? Well, that's the subject of the next set of studies, but it's really a foundational finding in this respect. We sort of have a population-level approach to medicine. We do it with drugs. We do it with vaccines. We assume everybody's alike and that they all respond the same. This is the basis of personalized or individualized medicine. Our group has been among the first to show that what we know for how people respond to drugs turns out to also be true in how people respond to biologics like vaccines. So you and I may respond very differently as a cohort, say, of Caucasians, but my colleague who's African American and the population of African Americans turn out to have a much better response to that vaccine.

17:22 Okay, so a couple things. Rubella is German measles, which apparently is really dangerous for pregnant women, but who knows that may have been put into our brain early on as well. And the term biologics, which he used there, that is a category of medicine which vaccines fall under. And the reason why they created that is because you cannot be sued for a biologic. There's indemnification. There's no path. There is a... the US government has a fund if you've been damaged by vaccines, but it's a process.

17:58 It's not very well known. But the biologics was that class of medicine was created specifically for vaccinations and indemnification. And this particular vaccination, he says it has a better response for African-Americans. I don't know what he means by better response. Does that mean greater immune system agitation? That's a good question. I don't know. Well, you would presume that, you know, so this is the problem with these vaccines like polio vaccine. You got it. You're done. But all these others, like, oh, I've got to come back for a booster, because it's obviously not 100% effective. So I think what he's saying is the efficacy rate would be higher. I don't know if, but it sounded pretty unscientific. It was just him saying his friends. So it wasn't really like, here's a, and by the way, where are the peer reviewed studies? And where's the media about this?

18:50 And then the cohort of Caucasians, I love that terminology used there. But in all seriousness, you're saying vaccines affect different ethnic groups differently. So instead of having eight vaccines, don't you think you need to have 24 of these COVID vaccines going? One for black people, one for brown people. But this goes to show you this is a perfect example of systemic racism because white people are the default. That's a very good point. So I just want to show people these things exist but we don't talk about them in the right way. How is it that he clearly from the male clan is not some quack.

19:40 As seen by the medical industry or the medical field, because he works for the Mayo Clinic, he's saying that These vaccines affect different groups differently, but we don't know, but trust our data. It's like you don't know how it's going to affect my kids because you did the study on another group of kids, but you want me to trust your science. That's very troubling. When I heard this clip, I was like, this blows everything that we know about vaccines out of the water. Thank you. That's a very good point. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean the whole booster thing by itself is weird, but then, oh well, it works differently on different people. Oh, hold on a second. So what is the system? What exactly is going on?

CHAPTER 07 / 49 Discussion

Genetic-Based Medicine and Baseline Testing on Minorities

Medical researchers suggest that future vaccine dosages may be determined by genetic markers rather than race, potentially requiring different doses for different ethnic groups. There is a critical perspective offered that minority populations are often used as the "baseline" for testing new medical technologies before they are calibrated for wealthier populations. This practice is framed as a form of systemic racism within the pharmaceutical industry.

gene expression· personalized medicine· systemic racism· clinical trials· baseline

20:26 You're right. And are you the only one of my black friends who worries about this or is this common? Oh no, this is widespread and it will get there in a minute. Another thing not discussed. Another thing not discussed. Yeah, another thing not discussed. But let's continue with Dr. Polkham. Well, this is really important in terms of how we deliver vaccines, how we design vaccines, perhaps the safety of vaccines. And this is new information in the biologic field that I think is going to change how we practice medicine. The vaccine, in essence, is working differently. The question is why? It's the same vaccine in human beings, administered the same way, and yet it stimulates a very different set of gene expression and protein secretion, that protein being antibody, that protects us when we see the virus.

21:20 In Japan and in Europe, we're seeing outbreaks of rubella and measles. They're vaccines that are given together primarily because of people rejecting the vaccine out of unfounded fears about the safety of the vaccine. But the interesting thought occurs to me, maybe we only have to give African Americans half the size dose that we give to Caucasians. That's an example of individualizing our approach to somebody. Eventually what will happen is it won't be something as complicated as race, it will be genetically based. So we will look at somebody's genes that are important to developing immunity and based on which ones they carry, say you don't need the vaccine, you're not at any risk, or you need twice the dose of the average person or half the dose, or you're at risk for this kind of side effect.

22:14 And that changes how we practice medicine. It's an exciting new era in that regard. I'm just going to say one thing. How can anything, he said that they make decisions on unfounded claims. How can it be unfounded when you're uncertain what your science is? Yeah, well, I think this is a sales pitch what he's doing here. And here's why I think that. So first of all, he's absolutely right. It's a very exciting time in medicine. This is when I first saw how exciting it was for them at the JPMorgan Financial Conference for vaccines and they were all like, oh my god, this is great. We get to treat people before they're even sick. Wow, as many as possible. And they had vaccines for smoking addiction and all kinds of, is that really a vaccine? No, but it fell under biologic. So that's part one. Part two is, I think he's really pushing towards exactly what they're trying to do with

23:10 with the modern vaccines, in particular Moderna, which is Dr. Fauci's favorite, and this is an RNA vaccine. It's never been tried. We're gonna get there, Curry. We're gonna get there. Putting the goggles on. All right. Let me just put it this way. You've been so good the last couple weeks. Go ahead. Personalized medicine is what they're going for, and then I will leave it at that. for those that can afford it. Well, hello, first we test it on black people, and then we give it to rich people. Calibrate it. Well, we gotta calibrate it. Get a baseline. Yeah, get a baseline. It's like, oh, that's pretty harsh on the Negroes. But I'm glad you pointed that out because when you, you know, yeah, that is just systemically racist.

23:58 He's only thinking of his baseline, which is white people and then oh what a surprise it works differently on those people So clearly not not caring as much This goes back to the racist numbers. Yeah, the math. Yeah. We talked about a few shows ago where you know how they use the numbers. Remember they did with super super predators? Yeah, they said okay let's look at this small group of numbers. Right, they used the model. And then they extrapolated yeah to the larger population and said oh my god we're gonna have a million super predators running the streets which it wasn't true. Yeah, exactly.

CHAPTER 08 / 49 Discussion

NIAID and Moderna mRNA Vaccine Collaboration

Dr. Kizmika Corbett of the NIAID explains the mechanics of the mRNA vaccine developed in collaboration with Moderna, which uses genetic material to encode the coronavirus spike protein. The NIAID reportedly owns a significant portion of the patents for this technology, which is being fast-tracked through the regulatory process. The delivery mechanism is described as a "Trojan horse" that recodes cells to produce an immune response.

niaid· moderna· mrna vaccine· kizmika corbett· anthony fauci

24:33 Yeah, and so now they're doing the same thing. It's like just like two million. First of all, you're studying Somalis. Yeah, it's the same thing, man. Yeah, they're all brown. I mean, who cares? You're all in the community. It's troubling. And even more troubling is this next clip from the NIAID. They have a Dr. Kizmika No kids. Yeah kids Mika kids me Kia kids Makiya corporate which I'm gonna say this

25:11 Who was ever picking these people? Get better names first of all. No, no, no, no, no. The name is good. No, the name is good because it's an ethnic seeming name. It's the same thing with Barack. How he went barbaric his whole life, but when he decided to run for president, he switched to Barack because it seems more ethnic. So I'm not gonna denigrate this sister in any way because she's a so-called black woman very dark-skinned Attractive and she has an ethnic sounding name. So they put her out front and what she's gonna do is talk about

25:47 The NIAID's vaccine research center and their efforts to develop the new RNA vaccine that you're... That I have my goggles on for, yes. This is the protein that is on the surface that the virus uses to attach to the cell and then enter the cell. What an mRNA vaccine is, is we're essentially delivering the genetic material. So we're delivering the messenger RNA that encodes our mutated novel coronavirus spike. And then we're also delivering the

26:29 The messenger RNA will tell the body to present this spike protein and the body will respond by creating an immune response. and hypothetically if all goes well then that immune response will then be able to see a novel coronavirus before a person gets infected and prevent that infection. We started this collaboration with Moderna because we wanted to utilize our antigen concept, so our vaccine concept, but deliver it via their platform. So what that means is that we take our sequence from the VRC and we give it to Moderna and Moderna develops the vaccine. Oh yeah, they own half of it, the NIAID. Yeah, so basically what she's for people that want to follow along at home, think about it as a missile.

27:31 They have the warhead, the payload, and Moderna has the rocket or the delivery mechanism. And that's based, they're working together and then hopefully your immune system sees Moderna's vehicle as like a Trojan horse. that it allows it to get inside the genes or the cell and then the RNA delivers the coat the recoding. Yeah. To look for the coronavirus which this is all so the last guy was Dr. Polk. He was talking about the old vaccine way. Yeah, which is now and they don't have no understanding of that as clear as he was saying on the you know the racial ethnic differences of the person that's receiving the vaccine. Right. But now here they come with a whole new way of doing vaccines and it's

28:23 I think what they said like years it takes years before you can qualify a vaccine typically and work shaving it down to three years to up to 12 years it can be really long depending but you know it's also the government pre-financed it all we pre-purchased Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, I think Merck So we have about $4 billion, half a billion dollars each to eight different vaccines of which Moderna is the favorite to win because Fauci is the head of NIAID. They also own half the patents in personal title.

CHAPTER 09 / 49 Discussion

Tuskegee Legacy and Black Skepticism of Clinical Trials

Historical medical abuses like the Tuskegee experiment contribute to a deep-seated mistrust of vaccines within the black community, with polls showing only 25% willingness to participate. Anecdotes about individuals living off medical trial stipends illustrate the economic desperation often tied to testing. This skepticism extends to high-risk demographics who refuse the vaccine despite official health recommendations.

tuskegee experiment· clinical trials· medical ethics· skepticism· black community

29:04 But they want to take it to Africa and black and brown communities in America. It's like we don't know what this is gonna do There's something totally new and we're just gonna give it to black people and brown people. No, no That's not what he's saying. He's saying we're gonna test all kinds of cool variations on black and brown people That's what he's saying. Yeah, let's figure this one out. This is cool. I And you wonder why we, knowing this, knowing what we talked about in this show about Tuskegee experiment, all of those things, you think we wouldn't be a little apprehensive about taking a vaccine? Not only that, you'd think that guys like Fauci and he's

29:52 closing in on 80, it might stick in his mind to think, you know, we should probably do a little extra work here to make sure that we're really on the up and up and everyone feels comfortable because, but if you want to say it, no, because he's actually racist. He's not thinking about that. And you want to test the most vulnerable. So even if, say I'm healthy, you want to test it on me, but then I go back into general population with my family members and I have this Bug that you shot me up with and I don't know how it's gonna impact the other people Because everybody talks about how you get sick after you get the flu vaccine I mean you get a little sick because they're you know, they're giving you a little piece of the virus. Mm-hmm And that's what you want to do. I don't think that's a good idea. Well, it's it's it's happening right now in Houston I mean they are testing the end these people are in the wild. They're throwing people out in the wild and

30:48 Let me say a couple of things about that. One, growing up as a kid, I had this guy that lived next door to me. He was a young man. He was my brother's age, so probably eight years older than me at the time. And he survived off of taking medical trials. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's how he lived. I mean you come you know do you see those commercials come down here? Let me shoot you up with this or take this pill and here you know we study for six months It's podcasting is really only one step above that lifestyle. I'm also Not just saying so these things and we used to call a medical wheel

31:25 Because we found it to be strange. No, I know shit you I'm not I crap you not that we even have a young I mean well I was about 14 15 years I felt that to be strange like that's how you make money to let them run test on you. Yeah, but now it's widespread. I But I will say this there's several new art or Rick there was written or news articles. I couldn't find any clips But the average In America people willing to take the vaccine is about 50% The willing participation of black people is like 25% so that answers your question of we're not on board with this at all I mean there's

32:11 Even my mom which fault she falls into the the category, you know of high risk I mean just for age and ethnic, you know, yeah sure group sure She don't have I don't think she has any comorbidities other, you know, I don't think she has any but you know, she's she's Was with them canceling church and which shocked me But when it came to the vaccine, she drew a hard line. She's I'm not taking their vaccine. I'm not taking it. Hmm, so So and did she elaborate or she just said I'm not taking it. That's it. That's it. It's a hard stop And a lot of people a lot of black people who are at that point and not only black people Because I have this pastor charge Charles Lawson Which he is a white pastor. I think in a church out in Tennessee you may want to play a little thorough there, man, maybe not but

CHAPTER 10 / 49 Discussion

Pastor Charles Lawson on RNA Technology and Prophecy

Pastor Charles Lawson warns his congregation against the Moderna vaccine, citing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and concerns over experimental RNA technology. He frames the vaccine as a fulfillment of Bible prophecy and an attempt to alter human DNA. The closure of churches during the pandemic is interpreted by some as an effort to suppress these "truth movements" within religious communities.

charles lawson· robert f. kennedy jr· rna technology· bible prophecy· church

33:05 Well, I'll listen and see if it warrants it. The theremin starts all by itself. Right, so he gives a warning on do not take the COVID vaccine. We are living prophecy, no question in my mind. We are living Bible prophecy. A man by the name of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., you'd think he'd He, I don't know that he's any kin, but he says, it says that almost no one understands what's at stake. He said, no one understands what's at stake. Pharma has 80 COVID vaccines in development, 80 of them.

33:42 But Bill Gates and Fauci pushed Moderna's Frankenstein jab to the front of the line. What are you talking about, preacher? Scientists and ethicists are sounding alarms. The vaccine uses a new untested and very controversial experimental RNA technology. Stop for a moment. DNA is the code that is in your body. That code is passed from generation to generation, but it's simply code. It's like an encyclopedia. It's like a book of knowledge. All this information, RNA reads it and RNA takes what it reads and through its own process disseminates it into the body. Preach? Yeah, I'm joining his church. This is exactly what's going on.

34:34 This is exactly why I think they wanted to close churches down There is a truth or movement inside of the church no matter the ethnic groups nice one very good Yes, when you see the Illuminati satanic that kind of thing yeah that goes hand-in-hand and really the truth or community is The meeting place. It was a meeting place for us. I mean, let's just be honest. Conspiracies are the meeting place where you can get people from different races to kind of agree.

CHAPTER 11 / 49 Discussion

CRISPR Technology and Genetic Engineering Concerns

CRISPR technology is identified as a potentially greater threat than nuclear weapons due to its ability to modify DNA with high precision and low cost. The discussion links these concerns to House Resolution 666 and the release of genetically modified mosquitoes in the wild. The accessibility of bioengineering tools to home users is highlighted as a significant security and ethical risk.

crispr· genetic engineering· mosquitoes· bill 0666· bioengineering

35:15 on certain things and it didn't help that the what was the what was the bill name like 666 it was bill 0666 something weird like that yeah weird like that and then uh his patent is the same thing it has like multiple sixes in it so it's not a far reach When you start talking about recoding DNA and playing God, I mean that's basically what, that's how it's seen as a believers as they're playing God. And then we're going to talk about this subject and I'm just going to slightly broach it. CRISPR? I think CRISPR is the most dangerous thing

35:55 our times and that's greater than yeah, Kovac greater than nuclear weapons greater than anything else is CRISPR and what CRISPR does it lets them go in and and modify genes and DNA on a level they can't even understand. Well, here's what's really interesting about it. The technology for CRISPR is pretty much readily available. You can already take a DNA sequence. You can use CRISPR CRSPR, I think that's what it is. Yes, yes. And you can already use CRISPR's open source code and you can

36:33 Rearrange that and and really all it needs is just being reintroduced into the host of the DNA It's it's like there's guys. I know guys who are who were and I know him because of ham radio believe it or not Another very racist hobby not enough black people on ham radio the He's you know electrical engineer And he's moved over to this bioengineering. So now they're all learning CRISPR and DNA sequences, and you can run this stuff on a Windows 10 machine at home. That's scary. I'm legit scared now because

37:20 You also see these things cropping up with these genetically modified mosquitoes. They're just kind of throwing out there. It's like, yeah, we released 200,000 genetically modified mosquitoes into the wild. And I assume CRISPR is the method that they're genetically modifying by. But I will broach that subject in further detail later down the line because I saw a very troubling Ted talk on CRISPR that never left me. Yeah, it was indeed the COVID vaccine bill was House Resolution 666.

CHAPTER 12 / 49 Discussion

Germline Gene Editing and Future Generations

Pastor Charles Lawson argues that mRNA vaccines represent a form of germline gene editing, meaning genetic alterations could be passed down to future generations. He claims the technology goes beyond traditional vaccines by reprogramming human cells to produce antibodies. This is framed as a permanent modification of the human genetic code backed by long-term interests.

germline editing· genetic engineering· charles lawson· dna· antibodies

37:57 Yeah, now you see what feeds people like Pastor Charles Lawson and maybe even my own mother. Bro, I'm not taking this thing. They're not sticking that evil stuff in me. If my mom would have knew that part of it, which I doubt she does, it's definitely a no going to vaccine because no 666 there. But the church connection is very astute. That is man, bang on. This makes so much sense. Like keep them away from that. Okay. And let's give you another example what to keep them away from. Let's hear Pastor Charles Lawson part two. And very controversial experimental RNA technology. Stop for a moment. DNA is the code that is in your body. That code

38:45 That code is passed from generation to generation, but it's simply code. It's like an encyclopedia. It's like a book of knowledge. All this information, RNA reads it and RNA takes what it reads and through its own process disseminates it into the body. So here we go. It tells us that the vaccine uses a new untested and very controversial experimental RNA. technology that Gates has backed for over a decade. Instead of injecting an antigen and adjuvant as with traditional vaccines, Moderna plugs a small piece of coronavirus genetic code into human cells, altering DNA

39:34 throughout the human body and reprogramming our cells to produce antibodies to fight the virus. mRNA vaccines are a form of genetic engineering called germline gene editing. Moderna's genetic alterations are passed down to future generations. Yeah, baby. Guess what we could put in there all kinds of cool splicing. Yeah, if this if this this is in fact the most important medical test they could ever do and they've if intentional it's been arranged beautifully. It has and the pressure points that come with it. Let's just talk about the pressure points before we continue on here. What what I mean by pressure points is this.

CHAPTER 13 / 49 Discussion

Vaccine Mandates as Pressure Points for Schools and Work

Vaccine mandates are described as "pressure points" used to compel compliance from families who rely on public schools for education and childcare. The discussion posits that low-income families are the most vulnerable to these requirements as they cannot afford private alternatives or work-from-home arrangements. This dynamic is viewed as a way to force the adoption of new medical technologies across the general population.

public schools· vaccine mandates· child care· socioeconomic status· pressure points

40:28 Most people only vaccinate their kids so they can have access to free child care, aka public schools. Yeah, exactly. Let's just be honest here. You bet. And I'm one of them. I'm one of them. Sure. I'm not preaching from a place of I know better, that kind of thing. When you're a low-income family or a middle-income family, public schools is a necessity. Okay, so now what have they done? cancel schools

41:04 Yeah. Right? Yeah, and this is one of my... it sticks in my craw. This irks me a lot. All the discussion is really a very privileged one. It's not a discussion of poverty that the news media has when it comes to opening schools or not. The people who are speaking are all people of incredible privilege who are speaking. They're not giving any view of what it's really like in a lot of America. But I think that's a good thing. What I want to say that is we have to stop letting other people indoctrinate our children and you're going to hear later on why I made that point. But let me just get back to the pressure point. So if you're your kids are out of school,

41:53 And you're not privileged, let's use your term, privileged enough to work from home, say like I am. I can, you know, like bounce to the kids' table, help them and then bounce back to work. But if you actually have to leave the house. Oh, it's a nightmare. And they say, your kids cannot come back to school. Yeah. Unless they get this RNA vaccine. Yep. What are you going to do? Yeah, well, we all know what we have to do. Go find a way to get a fake vaccination certificate, obviously. And by the way, Mo, I'm on it, broseph. I'm figuring out how this works. Yeah, there'll be a huge trade-in. Yeah, there's gonna be a huge trade-in.

42:37 Or if they say I can't go back to work unless I take the vaccine. Another pressure point. So they have us right where they want us to make us take this thing. Oh, it's going to be much worse. I think it'll be football stadiums, movie theaters, maybe even the mall. It's gonna be much more widespread. Yeah, kids is the problem. I guess we can live without them all, live without going to concerts or football games, but for poor people, you gotta get your kids to school. Their kids have to go to school. And it's like, well, you know, the old ones will die off. So, I mean, we won't make them get the vaccine. And if we get the kids, then they'll pass it on according to Dr. uh, me, excuse me, according to Pastor Charles Lawson,

43:25 Once you inject the children, then all the other children will be vaccinated through birth. Yeah, seems like a kind of a shitty business model, quite honestly. It's only good for one generation. Somehow I don't believe that. Well, you got the boosters. I mean, of course they're going to cut their own back with the booster. That's already started. They've already started with boosters. Already talked about it. Yeah. So it's very scary, especially When you start to look at other things that the medical industry have done and we talked about on the show, this is from a show 29, Dr. Randy Short talked about the Depo-Vera shot.

CHAPTER 14 / 49 Discussion

Depo-Provera Scandal and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

The history of Depo-Provera and unethical experimentation at the Grady Clinic in Georgia serves as a historical precedent for medical mistrust. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is highlighted as a prominent voice for vaccine safety, specifically regarding the removal of mercury-based thimerosal. His transition from environmental activism to vaccine skepticism is attributed to his interactions with mothers of vaccine-injured children.

depo-provera· grady clinic· robert f. kennedy jr· thimerosal· mercury

44:08 Talk about what you know about the health effects though, because obviously women were being administered this for years without knowing about them. Well, the drug was first patented in 1959. By the middle 60s, there were a lot of unethical experimentations done, in particular the Grady Clinic study in Georgia on poor black and poor white women. God knows how many people died. This drug did not get approved until 1993-94, but during that time that was used on women all over. The effects of it are serious. Yeah, it was worldwide.

44:45 It was really bad. So that's recent history. We're talking like 80s 90s maybe even up to the 2000 early 2000s that there and and we remember we played the clips from Planned Parenthood still saying it was good. Oh no, it's good. It's good for you. This is why people are so apprehensive, especially black and brown people are apprehensive about taking this vaccine because we've heard the horror stories and they're more like urban legend. So we don't want any part of it. Well I would just point everybody towards Robert Kennedy Jr. He's the one that spearheaded, he started

45:30 He started getting interested in vaccine. He's not anti-vaxxer. He was interested because he was about he was working on getting mercury out of the water so we wouldn't have mercury poisoned fish. And all these moms would show up everywhere he talked and they would just show up and they would show up and then they kept saying, look there's mercury in the vaccines and this is what happened to my kid. And he couldn't ignore it at a certain point and then he started to look into it and that was the thimerosal which we heard the pastor talking about which is an adjuvant which is kind of like a hamburger helper of vaccine. You know, you throw a little bit of meat in there, you throw the adjuvant in and boom, you got a full burger for just a fraction of the price. And so he's all about safe vaccines. That's the traditional method.

46:18 And he, I mean, he's looking at this MRA stuff and he's scratching his head going, what? And he's getting pretty vocal about it. And Pastor Charles Lawson even referred to him at the beginning of the first clip we played about him. So his message is spreading like wildfire and then the problem with that is that with the weight of the Kennedy name That that carries a certain weight to it as well Well, the weight is is that it's it's easy to kill them off, you know, because it's like off another Kennedy's dead No one's gonna care. So that's the problem I see for him. You know, this that that that's it. That's a true point is what it's like Whatever is expect the expected to happen. I

46:59 Well, so I got this next clip out of your clip bag. This is a St. Fowchee and Dr. Collins, the BFFs, and they talk about vaccinating black and brown people. And it will be important to encourage people to enroll. So people who are watching this right now might want to be Attention in 2 or 3 weeks to announcements that there might be a vaccine trial enrollment somewhere in your neighborhood, because we will depend on the public to sign up and help us figure this out. Let's be clear, these vaccines have already gone through phase 1 and phase 2 trials, so we know that they've been safe for a significant number of individuals and we know that they seem to be capable of raising antibodies, but we haven't actually done the real testing in the field that is going to be in the so-called phase 3 trials.

CHAPTER 15 / 49 Discussion

Community Outreach and the "Vaccine Vixen" Strategy

Drs. Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins discuss the importance of enrolling African Americans and Latinos in Phase 3 vaccine trials using "community outreach" models developed during the AIDS crisis. The use of attractive, influential minority figures in the media to promote the vaccine is characterized as a marketing tactic. One specific example mentioned is a Houston-area media personality who was among the first to receive the Moderna trial dose.

anthony fauci· francis collins· community outreach· moderna· marketing

46:18 And he, I mean, he's looking at this MRA stuff and he's scratching his head going, what? And he's getting pretty vocal about it. And Pastor Charles Lawson even referred to him at the beginning of the first clip we played about him. So his message is spreading like wildfire and then the problem with that is that with the weight of the Kennedy name That that carries a certain weight to it as well Well, the weight is is that it's it's easy to kill them off, you know, because it's like off another Kennedy's dead No one's gonna care. So that's the problem I see for him. You know, this that that that's it. That's a true point is what it's like Whatever is expect the expected to happen. I

46:59 Well, so I got this next clip out of your clip bag. This is a St. Fowchee and Dr. Collins, the BFFs, and they talk about vaccinating black and brown people. And it will be important to encourage people to enroll. So people who are watching this right now might want to be Attention in 2 or 3 weeks to announcements that there might be a vaccine trial enrollment somewhere in your neighborhood, because we will depend on the public to sign up and help us figure this out. Let's be clear, these vaccines have already gone through phase 1 and phase 2 trials, so we know that they've been safe for a significant number of individuals and we know that they seem to be capable of raising antibodies, but we haven't actually done the real testing in the field that is going to be in the so-called phase 3 trials.

47:51 But particularly, Tony, it seems to me because this disease, COVID-19, has hit particular groups really hard, I'm talking about older people, people with chronic disease, African Americans, Latinos, we want to be sure that the vaccine enrollment includes those folks as well. When you're dealing with HIV, there's a disparity of susceptibility of involvement. 13% of the American population is African American and 45 to 50% of the new infection. So whenever we do treatment and prevention trials through our networks, we outreach through community representatives and community outreach. We're going to use that same model to do the same thing for the African-American, Latinx, and Native American populations. It worked so well with AIDS. What could possibly go wrong?

48:45 So you heard Fauci say we use community outreach. So that's why you're seeing Dr. Corbett Kizmika Kids me Makiya kids Makiya. That's the name. She's She's a perfect pitch person. She fits the guidelines. Yeah, yeah attractive dark skin well, I've also named I've also seen cuz you know, I watched some of the Houston local stations and one of the news anchors she made but news anchor a weather person She was apparently the first

49:20 person ever to get the Moderna vaccine in the public trial. She's Ados and... Is she a light, I mean let's just... Lighter skin, yeah. Light skin, shapely woman. Shapely is the correct term. Yeah, I think she, oh, she's a social media superstar. Well there's your community outreach right there. That's what I saw. I know exactly who you're talking, I can't call her name but You see her pop it but pop up on your social media feed because of what she has all more than than the weather she's uh She's promoting so they have to quote Trump and was something bad about that Yeah, no, well you have your vaccine vixen there Yeah, so that's what they're doing. They're catering to the lowest

CHAPTER 16 / 49 Discussion

Bill and Melinda Gates on Prioritizing Minority Vaccination

Bill and Melinda Gates state that black and Native American populations, along with the elderly, should be prioritized for vaccine distribution due to their vulnerability. Critics interpret this prioritization cynically, suggesting that testing on these groups provides a buffer for wealthier populations. The conversation contrasts this with the lack of media attention given to daily violence in cities like Chicago.

bill gates· melinda gates· native americans· vaccine distribution· vulnerable populations

50:13 common denominator with people to get them to trust these representatives of Fauci, of Moderna, of NIAID and they're using basically what the Boule, this is how the Boule was formed. It's like we need we need doctors and preachers. Right, medical Boule. Yeah for sure. It's crazy so I have on this next clip this is actually Dr. Bill and Melinda Gates And they're going to do the push themselves to get black and brown people vaccinated. They deserve to get this vaccine first. OK, whenever Bill Gates says you deserve something, don't believe it. This guy is ruthless. They deserve to get this vaccine first.

51:00 And from there, you want to do tiering in various countries to make sure your most vulnerable populations get it. In our country, that would be blacks and Native Americans, people with underlying health conditions, and the elderly. And so we need to look at as a globe, and we're involved with many European leaders and African leaders and others in Southeast Asia to make sure there's a purchasing fund that can pull that vaccine through when it's available and get it out in wide-scale distribution. You know, in fact the testing could have been ramped up very quickly and a few countries that have almost avoided the epidemic entirely like Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia, you know, they took their experience and actually prepared and so they moved a lot faster. So we, you know, we'll have to prepare for the next one. That, you know, I'd say is

51:59 We'll get attention this time. Do you think that they because she didn't say elderly because I think that would be that is clearly statistically the most vulnerable to coronavirus or the COVID-19 death, which he did not mention it was blacks. And I think you said blacks or black? Black. Black and Native American. They deserve it first. They deserve it first. Yeah, well do you think that that's because they've discovered that it responds differently and they want to continue tweaking? No, I think if a bunch of dead black people show up it won't make that much news. I understand why you feel that way for sure. And what I don't understand if I'm testing out I mean I'm just

52:45 scientific method, you want at least the amount of variables as possible. So if I'm saying black people have the most... It's really sad what you just said because it's true. 60 black people shot dead in a weekend in Chicago. No one cares. I mean, of course we care, but it's not shown. So it's just, poof, doesn't matter. Didn't happen. It's over. It never existed. You know, that's very cynical, but fuck, you're right. And this is how we feel. I mean, like I said nonchalantly, but it's a real sentiment because if 60 black, like you said, black people or brown, black and brown people end up shot in Chicago, eh, it's just Chicago. But one white young woman gets shot, then we have Susan's Law. I mean, they get a whole law. It's like, hold on, now how does that work?

53:41 But, you know, I mean, it is what it is. And I think that going back to my scientific method point is if you want to test something, Give me your healthiest population, which will be rich white liberal vegan People not medical will you know the yeah, they get That gets on the you know, the the Pelotonic every day, you know and rides in their loft apartment Getting the vaccine first That's funny. Yeah, the Peloton. Looking at each other across from their Peloton penthouse apartment. That's my favorite ad. Exactly. They should be lined up around the block saying, you know what? Black Lives Matter. Give us the vaccine first. Yeah. That's a move. That's a move I like. Where are they at? But no, it's...

CHAPTER 17 / 49 Discussion

Population Growth in Africa and Reproductive Rights

In a Financial Times interview, Bill Gates discusses the projected doubling of Africa's population by 2050 and its impact on extreme poverty. He advocates for "reproductive health tools" and education for girls as a means to moderate population growth. The dialogue suggests that these initiatives are viewed by some as a eugenics-based approach to managing "undesirable" populations.

bill gates· africa· population growth· reproductive rights· poverty

54:43 If you ask me, yeah we need a vaccine, we'd be the first to take it. No I would not. I'd like to see how it plays out. I'm still awestruck about the church and the school thing. It's so evil but it's easy to think that way and I totally, well you know me, I'm the guy that plays the theremin but still it's like wow that's kind of for real now. And to give a little background on Bill Gates, I went and found this Financial Times clip with Vanessa Korda-Kaos, I think that's how you pronounce it. And she talks about the population boom in Africa and its implications of it.

55:27 The population of Africa is set to almost double by 2050, raising fears that progress in fighting poverty and disease will be reversed. So what can be done to ensure that poverty doesn't increase? And how can a disproportionately large youth population help drive progress? With me to discuss all of this and more is Bill Gates. Bill, are we at a turning point where regression is a real risk? Well, first, the progress over the last several decades has been pretty amazing, both reducing child-to-death, getting kids in school, getting agricultural productivity up, and reducing extreme poverty. But it's really Africa that still has a doubling in population to 2050, and probably another doubling

56:12 to 2100, where you really have to do a good job if you're trying to get these extreme poverty rates down. So if we don't do better in investing in human capital in Africa, yes, the number of people in extreme poverty is actually going to go up. Should the solution or should more solutions be focused on slowing that growth? So for example, increasing reproductive rights for women or spreading the access to contraceptives because it seems that, is it correct, that no amount of investment can really keep pace with that population growth. Oh my god, Bill Gates is all about killing people. I mean the way he says it is so elegant. I heard it right there. He's like

56:55 Well, you know, it's gonna, you know, vaccines, vaccines, be really a way to help slow that population growth. I mean, anyone, it comes out so easily, but I can't hear any differently than you're having too much sex, too many babies, take this shot, one way or the other, it's gonna slow down. Either you're gonna be sterile or you're gonna die. I mean, it's, what other ways does this vaccine of his work? If it's not saving, if it's supposed to save you, you won't die from some horrible disease, so there'll be more people. And what they always say is, well, then women won't have six children because they know two or three are gonna die. That's their theory. And then the access to, um... Oh yeah. Reproductive choices. Choices. No, reproductive rights. Reproductive rights. Oh, excuse me, rights. Yeah, rights. Excuse me. I think every woman has that right built right in.

57:52 But they want to make it readily available and then when you start saying hold on what well let me dissect what you're saying bill like you just like you just so beautifully did So what you're saying is we got to give women the the right the right news, which they should have that yeah But then we're we expect you to slow down. Yeah So what I hear let me just tell you why I hear when I hear this I We have to kill off the undesirables so the desirables can flourish. It's pretty much the way of the world, my friend. And this doesn't start with Africa and this is where, when we get to this point, this is where I took the hard right and left. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Did you wind up at the Georgia Guidestones?

CHAPTER 18 / 49 Discussion

Eugenics, Margaret Sanger and Rationalizing Population Control

The modern focus on reproductive rights and vaccination is linked to the historical eugenics movement and Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. The discussion explores how elites like Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus might rationalize population control based on their personal experiences with famine and disease. This perspective frames population management as a "virtuous cycle" for economic development.

eugenics· margaret sanger· planned parenthood· population control· tedros adhanom ghebreyesus

58:39 No, but I could easily I Could have easily ended up there, but yeah, like you said the way he nonchalantly just said that oh, yeah We got it. You know, we got to kill some black people. So those especially the lower kind. Yeah, so just by giving him the high rights We're gonna give him some rights So you could die and everyone's happy. Oh reproductive rights and vaccination those are the those are the two telltale signs of a eugenicist. That's what it is. What else is there? That is Margaret Sanger's MO and bring in some preachers I mean community what they call them

59:19 community outreach. Outreach, yes. It is just a continuation of the original Eugenics Society of America now finally recognized that Margaret Sanger who was thus the founder of Planned Parenthood, wasn't eugenicist. The whole idea was eugenics and they weren't shy about it. We're gonna get deeper into that and possibly humanize their thought process. No You go ahead change my mind Moe. It's gonna be tough. No. No, I'm not. I'm not saying they're correct I'm saying we're gonna humanize how they actually get to that point and think they're doing good. Okay, okay

59:58 That's because, I mean, it's easy to say, oh, they're eugenicists, they're evil, and just write them off that way. I don't want to, I never want to do that to anybody. No, I appreciate that. Because I don't want that to, that goes back to one of the tenets of this show is, seek first to understand, then to be understood. So even eugenicists have the right to be understood. And I'd like to pause for a moment. Last night, I think it was Fox News or something, they played a bit from the DNC where the Preacher was going off and it was reminiscent of Jeremiah, right? And it was all positioned as which I had fallen for this long I just wanted to highlight it because of the show when you played the Jeremiah, right? Clip the whole clip and in context, you know, it's such a such a misstatement the way they're categorizing this throughout history it's just it's it irksome and As it adheres to exactly you said one of the tenants of the show. I

1:00:54 Yeah. So Bill Gates continues on with the Financial Times about reproducing population. What we do between now and 2050 with education, with economic growth, with health and nutrition, that'll really set the course for moderating the population growth between 2050 and 2100. But it's really a virtuous cycle, letting women have reproductive health tools that they want, educating girls, raising agricultural productivity, getting these malnutrition interventions on a much greater scale than we have today. Those are the things you would want to do anyway. It turns out that

1:01:43 And by doing those well, you also set the population growth rate coming down quite a bit. And so it just makes it that much more imperative that we invest in the human capital now, and so that the challenge of what, under any scenario, will be fairly high population growth, that you're able to benefit from all those young people making a big contribution to their country. Oh, did you hear that little laugh that he's got when he talks about killing people? Yeah. Yeah. So he says that they need reproductive tools. If you give them access to the tools. That they want. That they want. That they want it. Yeah. Which they may. They may. I mean, who knows? Sure, sure, sure. If your choices are, you know, and this is where we get into

1:02:39 the class difference because you have people like a doctor Ted Ross he's from Eritrea that used to be Ethiopia that used to be the face of famine in the 80s. Yeah he's from there so he looks at it says hey I had a brother die from measles I've seen I've seen hunger and famine up close and personal. Maybe it's better if those people that are starving were never born. I mean, that's how they start to rationalize it. That's how he would rationalize it, sure, I can see that. Although he may have changed by now, he's kind of elite.

CHAPTER 19 / 49 Discussion

Rapper Kevin Gates on Vaccine Skepticism and Enzymes

Rapper Kevin Gates explains his decision not to vaccinate his children, claiming they are more "accelerated" and articulate because they lack mercury in their systems. He describes himself as a "cold-blooded investigator" who studied enzymes and the body's natural openings. His comments reflect a broader sentiment of skepticism within the hip-hop community regarding pharmaceutical products.

kevin gates· rolling stone· autism· mercury· vaccine skepticism

1:03:18 And then the young people they're talking about they can leverage they've been indoctrinating them with the western schools for so long That this is second nature to them. Yeah, so it's like yeah, let's get the young kids in on it You know give them the tools and their vaccines and everything will be all right. Yeah, it's a crazy world um so Went and found of Kevin Gates a rapper and maybe a cousin of Bill Gates This is from the Rolling Stones and just to give you a sense of Even in the hip-hop community there have any Vax or tenant. She's so special. She don't even tell To be honest with you. She just see different. She not like I've been around other three old children I know why

1:04:12 She's so accelerated. She's never been vaccinated before. She's never had any vaccinations. So that's why she's so accelerated. She doesn't have mercury in her body and things of that nature. So my son also, they just, they different. They sit down like little people and just talk. I don't believe in conspiracy theories on anything like that. I'm just a cold-blooded investigator. What made me not wanna get my children vaccinated was because I studied a lot about killing bad enzymes and stuff in the body. And that's not an opening through your skin. Your openings are your nose, your mouth. I ain't gonna say I'm against the needle. Look at all these tattoos, man. Man, I'm sick. I look like an essay when I take my shirt off.

1:05:03 I love that needle. I was at Whole Foods one day and they had like, after you get vaccinated, they had something else you supposed to take. And I'm like, why would you need to take something after you've been helped already? You know, this episode is... Makes sense to me. Yeah, this episode I'm sure may be triggering to a lot of people, so I just want to recognize that. And because, you know, I think Mo and I, you know, we've got, well we have, we kind of know where we stand on this, and again this is not an anti-vaxxer show.

CHAPTER 20 / 49 Discussion

Capitalism and the Mandating of Medical Products

The push for vaccine mandates is criticized as a failure of capitalism, with the argument that a truly effective product should not require government force to ensure adoption. Personal anecdotes about the flu shot and its side effects are used to illustrate why consumers are hesitant. The rapid rollout of new products before old ones are fully understood is cited as a primary cause for public alarm.

capitalism· mandates· flu shot· pharmaceutical industry· consumer trust

1:05:45 But it's important that we look at all of these angles and I think these, particularly these angles are very, very, in this case, you can really benefit because, you know, black people go first but it's the Africans first. So what they're doing there, they're going to do here to everybody eventually. I told you we always go first. Yes, yeah And maybe they use Africa because you have a water wall To stop right as it goes crazy You don't want to do it in the black community cuz like they got to come clean my house and you know I got to get in there fix my coffee at Starbucks. I don't want to cough it all over my cup, you know, but No

1:06:31 Yeah, I know I say these things in jest but you have to or you'll go insane if you don't laugh at it of course in a way because Because it's not a came around. Yeah, well AIDS came around we were like where'd that come from? It just came out the blue. No, I don't I don't not buying that. I mean that was one drama. I Jeremiah writes points about AIDS or where it came from And now you have rappers even saying bro. I'm not taking no vaccine and he makes a great point Your products that great. Why do I need to have a chaser to go with it? I'm not understanding that and anybody that gets upset with us questioning vaccines This is how capitalism works

1:07:17 If your product is that great, then it shouldn't be mandated. I have to take it. I will be seeking out right if I see my neighbor took a vaccine and I didn't I caught the flu and they didn't I'm like, hey, Bob, what you do? And he's like, I took the flu shot and I was like, really? And I haven't had the flu in four years. I might consider it. But every time everybody I talked to they flew really bad that year My arm went numb. You know, I couldn't feel my fingers Still hurts you took what so that's the issue that we have is if if we're saying That your product is that great which they even say they said they don't understand their product and then they're even rolling out new products even before we're understanding their original products

CHAPTER 21 / 49 Discussion

DJ Vlad and Willie D Debate Bill Gates

DJ Vlad and Willie D of the Geto Boys discuss Bill Gates' investment in vaccine factories and the polarizing nature of the topic. Vlad defends Gates' philanthropy and speed in production, while Willie D expresses the common skepticism found in the hip-hop community. The segment highlights the divide between those who trust institutional philanthropy and those who suspect underlying motives.

dj vlad· willie d· bill gates· vaccinations· the atlantic

1:08:03 That's scary That is a very scary Place to be put in and then they top it off with all that to be targeted because of your skin color Yeah, that's a whole nother you're saying it's a whole nother thing in itself, but it doesn't stop there with the rappers of Vlad DJ Vlad popular DJ and Show host he has Willie D from the ghetto boys on the show now The first 40 of more than a minute and 40 seconds is a question or is it? well, one of the things that's seems to be a very polarizing issue of live TV whenever I mentioned it is Bill Gates and vaccinations now I read an article believe it was in the Atlantic where Bill Gates said that

1:08:59 He's working on seven different vaccines right now for coronavirus and he's actually building the factories of all seven. Knowing that only probably two of them will actually work So he's going to throw away billions of dollars of his own money Because it's so important to speed up the production if you wait until okay. This is the one that's gonna work now We're gonna run and build the factory you're gonna waste months and a lot of people gonna die in the process So he's actually throwing away billions of dollars to make sure that more people survive Bill Gates has given away more money than anybody I think in human history

1:09:40 But you always see this, I'm not going to take the Bill Gates vaccine. You always hear the theories, the conspiracy theories that Bill Gates went down to Africa and vaccinated a bunch of African kids and all of them got paralyzed and there's some sort of evil underlying mission of Bill and Melinda Gates. Me personally, I'm vaccinated right now for the flu. When all this started, I talked to my doctor. I said, should I get the flu shot? He said, absolutely. I went down to the local CVS. I got a flu shot. When this vaccine comes out, I'm going to go ahead and get the vaccine. What's your take on vaccines?

1:10:23 Did you hear that question? I mean, like he was basically bootlicking Bill Gates. Couldn't get much better than that. And I mean, are you kidding me? This is confirmed, documented. This is, I think even the WHO has information on what happened with these kids with bad vaccines. And it was Clinton Global Health Initiative that was there. They did some crappy deal. It's all lame. Horrible he said he said two things in that clip. He said one every time I bring this topic up is polarizing Yeah, well, and then he turned around and says always here

CHAPTER 22 / 49 Discussion

Autism Disparity and CDC Whistleblower Claims

Willie D cites claims from a CDC whistleblower regarding a disproportionate link between vaccines and autism in black boys. He argues that these issues were not prevalent in the community 20 years ago and expresses a preference for taking his chances with natural immunity. The discussion touches on the "misinformation" label used by the media to dismiss these concerns.

autism· cdc whistleblower· black boys· vaccines· medical transparency

1:11:00 No, I'm not taking it. To be polarizing, I mean just from my definition of it, if I ask a group of people, roughly half will be on one end of the spectrum and then the other half will be on the other end of the spectrum, which speaks to the word polarizing. You have two poles. But then you turn around and say everybody's not taking it? Come on. Is it clear? We don't want the vaccine, but he has this finger on the vein of hip hop and he has one of the most popular shows in hip hop and he's going to use his platform to push being vaccinated. I'm not doing it. I do believe that the vaccines are responsible for this influx of autism and the black community and this disproportionate influx of autism.

1:11:52 We didn't have these type of issues in our community 20 years ago. All of a sudden they're doing all these vaccines and look, and this is not just, in my opinion, it's not just a theory. That was a worker at the CDC, a doctor from the CDC who actually blew the whistle on this and said that they knew 10 years before they admitted that that those vaccines were causing autism disproportionately in black kids, black boys specifically. So I don't trust the vaccines. I never did. Why take that back? I did at one point. I used to, I tried getting vaccinated for, you know, I tried to get the flu shot a couple of years in a row and each time I got it,

1:12:39 I actually got sick and I had these horrible symptoms and it wasn't like one or two days. It was like a couple of weeks and I was like, shit, I'll take my chances rather than just injecting me and making me sick. I'd rather just take my chances. Yeah, me too. Me too. I'd rather just take my chances because you hear people getting sicker from the flu shot. and or are you here on the news uh if you took a flu shot here at uh you know Whole Foods come back even though you got a bad batch we need to give you another one. I'm like one of my problems with the flu shot is who administers it they give flu shots everywhere it's like you stop the jiffy lube get your oil change why don't you get your flu shot while you're waiting. Companies have have them come into the into the into the company and get your flu shots and

1:13:33 Yeah, it's very troubling. So before we play this next clip, if you want to say something. Yeah, one of the things about the autism, many vaccines, if you read the little insert that comes with every medication, every vaccine, it actually says that can be one of the side effects. There you go with your misinformation. You're peddling misinformation. That's how they box you in, right? They just throw you...

CHAPTER 23 / 49 Discussion

Louis Farrakhan and the Religious Front Against Vaccines

Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam warns followers against taking COVID-19 vaccines, calling the virus a "pestilence from heaven." This aligns him with various Christian preachers, creating a cross-denominational front of resistance. The segment also discusses how the 501(c)(3) tax status of churches may prevent many ministers from speaking out against government health policies.

louis farrakhan· nation of islam· 501c3· religion· covid-19 therapies

1:14:14 Rolling Stones interviewed Kevin Gates because he's seen as somewhat of a you know a troll so they were like if you if you think like this you think like Kevin Gates right thing of course there was so that was like you're good you're guilty by association yeah before we play this next clip we had to get a trigger warning because the next gentleman is a m5m untouchable So, we have to do this. We're over an hour into the show now we have the trigger warning. Okay, I can't wait Whenever we play an m5 untouchable we have to do that because like there's some new listeners and they just might totally Yeah, they hear next. That's true. All right, so don't take their vaccines There are 14 therapies

1:15:17 That are in the world today that we can use to fight against the COVID virus America you won't solve it. The scientists of the world you won't solve it. Guess what? I want to tell you what we'll solve. You ready? This virus is a pestilence from heaven. So scholarship from hell can't deal with a pestilence that came from heaven. Wow, that's an interesting take. So that's Minister Louis Farrakhan.

1:16:06 So now we have a Southern, soon to be Christian preacher and minister Louis Farrakhan on the same path of don't take the vaccine. Which I would love to see those two sit down and have a conversation and do the work. Now, well here's a question. So looking at the eugenicist movement in America historically, and this has come up in the beginning on the show, the community outreach would be the ministers. Just put a reverend in front of someone's name and they're to be trusted and they're gonna tell you what's going on and what we're gonna do. And if I'm not mistaken there were documents, I think it was actually Planned Parenthood documents, wasn't it? Or Eugenics Society of America. Yeah, make sure you get the reverends, get the preachers in there. So now

1:16:59 we have the opposite. Is this because many preachers know how that went down and recognize what's happening? And saying, aha, I'm not gonna fall for that one? Well a lot of preachers, and I don't want to cast a two out of a net, but a large sum of churches receive what they have the 501c3, which is the government tax break. Which if you start saying the wrong things legally, they can come in and put the pressure on you. Unless you're Scientology, then it's okay. Right, so a lot of preachers don't want to even run that risk.

1:17:44 being put on that radar because once like I said before once you're on the IRS's radar you never get off so I think that's part of the reason why you don't hear too many speaking out and it's only the people on the fringes in which the fringes really represent the people that they're trying to get rid of in the first place let's just be honest now we're getting to the eugenics conversation Because we clearly can see they're trying to eliminate certain classes of people whether it be racially or economically or Intelligence wise or whatever that whatever they're whoever they have a better way to trick correct. So this is where The the rabbit hole took the hard right or hard left how you want to say? All right this this next set of clips is from David Hoffman, which he is a archivist and filmmaker

CHAPTER 24 / 49 Discussion

Safe Counsel and the History of Phrenology

Filmmaker David Hoffman reviews the 1923 book "Safe Counsel," which promoted eugenics and phrenology—the study of skull shapes to determine racial inferiority. The book advocated for "repairing" racial qualities through selective marriage and the sterilization of those deemed unfit. This historical context is used to frame modern discussions about reparations and genetic "repair."

david hoffman· safe counsel· eugenics· phrenology· sterilization

1:18:34 He had this video on the book called Safe Council, which was printed in 1923. And it supported the idea of eugenics and believed in phrenology, which is that's the study or pseudoscience studying of the skull and the inferior races. And this is kind of leads to what Nick Cannon was talking about from one angle of it. Certain groups of people who think other groups of people are inferior on whatever the criteria is. But let's just hear David Hoffman talk about the Safe Council. Hello subscribers, hello others, it's David Hoffman, filmmaker, about to talk about a book, Safe Council. What would you think Safe Council is about? This version is from 1923, but there were hundreds of printings of this starting in about 1893. Safe Council, it's about eugenics, it's about

1:19:31 marrying a person who will produce children that are of the highest quality. What a story. Let me just give you some of the things you need to know before you hear what the book advises you to do. Pardon me for using notes because I'm not really a teacher, but I can't remember all these hilarious things. What is eugenics? Eugenics is a term designed to repair the racial qualities for future generations physically and mentally and to sterilize those who don't meet those qualities sterilized yick Hello Moderna Hello reparations

1:20:12 Hey, at least it's tangible. What are you complaining about? He just said repair. Eugenics is, I mean in their mind they're saying we're helping, we're strengthening their race. We're removing all the undesirables. Oh, that is good. Reparations. Yes. Oh, that's one way of interpreting it. That's the root cause. I mean that's the root of the word reparation is to repair, right? So it's We're fixing their race. We're getting rid of all the you know all the impurities all the things that's wrong To humanize eugenics for a moment we've seen it in play in the movie Forrest Gump, but we didn't really realize it cuz Forrest Gump's IQ fell right under that threshold and he would have been a clear candidate for being sterilized in that time period or maybe earlier and

CHAPTER 25 / 49 Discussion

Eugenics in Early 20th Century Media

A film clip from the 1920s depicts a woman being told her family must be sterilized because they are "feeble-minded" and "congenital cripples." This illustrates how eugenics was once presented as a social good and a patriotic duty in mainstream media. The discussion links this to the "population bomb" era and the messaging that limited family sizes were necessary for the nation's health.

sterilization· feeble-minded· population bomb· media propaganda· 1920s

1:21:06 And he's like, boy, your mama sure love your education. His mama had to step in and make sure he went to a proper public school. Right. I mean, we see these things right in front of our face, but we don't know how to interpret it. Speaking of movies, David Hoffman, he plays a clip from a movie, but he didn't say where it was from. But the time period is like early 20s, I believe. that shows how eugenics was right out in the open even in mainstream media. You have your entire family sterilized. Why, what's that? I don't know what you're talking about. Well, we investigated your family's history, Alice. And most of the past three generations have been feeble-minded. Congenital cripples or habitual drunkenness.

1:22:05 Instead of improving, each generation is more of a problem. Now in this state, we have a law which provides for such people to have an operation so there won't be any more children. I see. Now we've placed your brothers in institutions where they'll be properly cared for. You can go back to your job, Duke. I'll arrange to have it held open for you. But I'm keeping my job. I'm not going anywhere. Now you're going to the hospital too, Valerie. But there's nothing wrong with me. Perhaps not. You wouldn't want to marry this fine young man and be ashamed of the children you have. And you mean they're going to stop me from having children ever? Exactly. It made me think of something. I remember my mom, she had three kids, and it wasn't so much that there was a decision, I don't want to have kids anymore.

1:23:04 Because I was old enough to understand why she was going to the hospital and what was happening. And I don't remember exactly how old I was, but I was young. But I remember it was more like the patriotic thing to do. 2.3 children. That's what I remember. These are the things you remember from your childhood. So somehow she had received the messaging that 2.3 children is really... is really what you should be doing. And to her it was like, okay, I want to do my duty. I've done my duty. I've done what I had to do. And I got to stop so that we don't... And this is in the days of the population bomb. This is another book that was... Some of the people who are touting climate change today are still from the population bomb group.

CHAPTER 26 / 49 Discussion

BRCA Gene Testing and Designer Babies

The promotion of BRCA gene testing, popularized by Angelina Jolie, is viewed as a modern iteration of genetic screening. The discussion suggests that identifying "bad genes" serves as a precursor to gene splicing and the eventual creation of "designer babies." This technology is framed as a way to eliminate "weak" elements of the population under the guise of medical advancement.

brca gene· angelina jolie· genetic splicing· designer babies· mastectomy

1:23:57 So this none of this is is really old and ancient. It's still fresh and Obviously, it's still with us. It's very fresh. And as you heard in that clip, you're here. Their brothers are feeble-minded They don't deserve to have babies And you she said you're perfectly fine But think about would you want to have your husband? have you and your husband have children and they end up like you're you know your lineage. Right. Which is a clear attack on lineage which you know I'm a big proponent of. Oh my goodness wait wait I just give one more example then I'll shut up. This has also been slipped into and I'm not saying I'm not making any medical qualifications here the BRCA breast cancer gene

1:24:48 the BRCA, B-R-E-C-A. There were women who, and today are like, I've tested for the gene, I'm having a full mastectomy just in case because, you know, it's in my lineage, it's in my heritage, my mom had it. And they got the community outreach from Angelina Jolie, who did not have breast cancer, but she tested positive for the BRCA gene. That by itself, that whole testing for the gene was a whole nother story. And believe it or not, it got so good that to this day I believe if you're tested for the BRCA gene, Medicare will pay for your reconstructive surgery. So if you're looking for, and I know I have no business talking about this necessarily because I don't, I'm not an owner of this type of equipment, but there are a lot of stories of women who's like, okay, this is a great way to get a boob job.

1:25:45 Makes sense. Yeah. I mean, we have our own equipment. If you know, if they're here, they're older, you know, I got 10 years on you, Moe. What are you talking about? I mean, if men could take advantage that we would for cosmetic purposes in any way. So probably I don't I don't think it's any different. But what strikes me is Their pitch to her was you don't want to pass on your bad genes with your husband to the next generation And now the solution they have is we can go into your DNA and calm that bad boy out Yeah, and it'll pass it on to your kids. We'll never be an issue again. I find these very striking in a way that At least me speechless. It's like what are we doing? It's like Kovac

1:26:41 Like the opening of the door of designer baby, designer children. Yeah, it's a cover up. It's a cover up for DNA splicing, gene manipulation or DNA manipulation, gene splicing. Right and and because it's perfect. I mean it's perfect It kills off all the old people with their all their old old ideas and traditions rid of them It gets rid of all the weak. I mean if you have comorbidities or any birth defects It kind of eliminates those people and then we could you know get everybody else to get their jacked up DNA You know and it is what it is

CHAPTER 27 / 49 Discussion

WASP Elite and the Funding of HBCUs

The American establishment, historically composed of White Anglo-Saxon Protestants (WASPs), funded Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) to cultivate the "Talented Tenth." Figures like Rockefeller and Ford aimed to draw out the most capable black individuals and indoctrinate them with WASP values. This strategy ensured that black leadership would align with the interests of the ruling class.

wasp· rockefeller· ford foundation· hbcus· talented tenth

1:27:21 That is crazy. Wow, the people, it makes my head hurt to think like them. The possibilities are endless. So this is where I got to the killer wasp. So that meant doing something so that you can no longer have children because your children would be inferior as you were. you were inferior, the children were inferior. We wanted to make America the kind of highest quality children that you could produce, which these folks and many folks, including Rockefeller, Ford, Teddy Roosevelt, the first Roosevelt president and others, believed were white people who didn't have mental deficiencies, depression, or were of the ethnicities that many felt were not equal to white people.

1:28:12 The purpose was to create a strong America, to improve the stock of America. But this won't be a surprise to you. There were people who used this sterilization thing to punish others. Oh, okay. Sure. Gee there's gambling going on there So this is the wasp so what I mean by wasp is I'm not talking about the bug here I know what you're talking about the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant May I mean Protestant, but their mail is a part of that as well so that was the standard

1:28:51 And then all the ethnic groups fell under that. The same groups that he highlighted there, the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Ford Foundation, blah, blah, blah, fill in the blank, were the same ones funding HBCUs at the same time. Because they said, oh, there's some redeemable black folks, about 10%. That's where the talented tip came from. So they put up the money to build these institutions of higher education to be basically magnets to draw out the smarties to these magnets and then they indoctrinated them with their

1:29:31 way of thinking and then they went back and pushed it back. To be a minister or a doctor you have to go through school. And throwback, throwback, brown paper bag test, you had to be smart but you also couldn't be too dark. Too dark, yeah, up to 1970s according to Beyonce's daddy, Matthew Knowles, I mean he said it himself, so these practices went on And this is how I mean, I'm, I know it's like, kind of not it's not a stretch, but how did he get there from here? We have to understand the thought process of people like Bill Gates. Now, he's not necessarily a wasp, but wasp represents a certain

CHAPTER 28 / 49 Discussion

Abraham Lincoln's Colonization and Deportation Plans

Historian Lerone Bennett Jr. details Abraham Lincoln's efforts to deport black people and create an all-white nation through colonization plans in Africa and South America. Lincoln proposed constitutional amendments to allocate money for this purpose as late as 1862. This historical fact is contrasted with the modern "Great Emancipator" narrative taught in public schools.

abraham lincoln· colonization· deportation· lerone bennett jr· 15th amendment

1:30:18 Culture in America and that's like what when you say white that's what a lot of people mean by when they say when they say white and Protestant is important because even the Catholics like was the number one target of the KKK Back in the day even more than Jewish people. I mean we you wouldn't know that now, but I mean it is what it is It's the truth. Oh Well, I felt this nameless clip is unknown. I don't know who the guy was. It's a 30-second clip when I was searching wasp and And this came up white Anglo-Saxon Protestant one. Two genesis like most social theorists embrace the concept of the ideal man as being white of Anglo-Saxon and Protestant background with someone who is physically socially and morally fit.

1:31:11 To their way of thinking anyone who did not fit into that formula became somewhat On the wasp on the wasp bit just just to give you a little more the CIA Pretty much exists of lost change over the years not the same C. I. Z. Used to be but it's all wasp That's like well they ever they would say we're Catholics in action CIA, but wasp that was it waspy guys you're in the CIA And like I said, WASP, the Protestant part is kind of flexible. Even the white part is kind of flexible. It's the mentality, the culture. That's why you can see a Barack Obama be a WASP. He was a WASP. It is what it is, even though he didn't look the part. And that's even better. You have the mind of a WASP,

1:32:07 But we can use you to get in certain spaces to be a what was the term they used a um, we just heard it while ago. Um, uh community outreach right community outreach community organizers is all there. I mean, that's it right there. Boom in one package. So now we have to go back. This is where we have to go back and use a couple of throwback clips because we have to see what America was originally set up to be, and this is according to one Abraham Lincoln himself. The title on the book is Abraham Lincoln's White Dream. What's that mean? It means that contrary to what most people think, Abraham Lincoln's deepest desire was to deport all black people and create an all white nation. It sounds like a wild idea now, and it is a wild idea,

1:33:07 But from about 1852 until his death, he worked feverishly to try to create deportation plans, colonization plans to send black people either to Africa or to South America or to the islands of the sea. On December 1st, 1862, in which he asked Congress to pass three constitutional amendments. One, to buy the slaves second to declare free all people who had actually escaped, but the third one, his proposed 15th amendment, asked Congress to allocate money to deport black people to another place. You know, they didn't teach me that in school. This is a hoax. That can't be right, Mo. That's according to Mr. LeRom Bennett Jr. It always cracks me up.

CHAPTER 29 / 49 Discussion

The One-Drop Rule and American Whiteness

The "one-drop rule," which classified anyone with any African ancestry as black, was a legal standard used to deny rights and maintain racial boundaries until 1967. This led to the phenomenon of "passing," where individuals of mixed heritage lived as white to access social privileges. The legacy of this rule persists in how American society defines racial identity and "whiteness" as a social club.

one-drop rule· supreme court· racial classification· passing· social construct

1:34:03 when Trump talks about Lincoln. I'm the best thing that happened to African-Americans since Lincoln and that's kind of questionable. He knows. He dabbles in conspiracies and so he had to come across this information. So if we're looking at it through the lens of America was set up to be this white nation and to really You have to understand how America was created. America was looked at as not the place to be for a long time, but the people that came here made it into what it was. And it's like, we'll show the rest of the world. We'll create a white beacon for the rest of the world to see what we've done. I'm just kind of, you know, paraphrasing American history there, but that's how I see it. And so whiteness was

1:34:56 Really synonymous with American. It's like if you really want to be American or white you have to show these certain traits And then they start to graph people in and it's like, okay. Well, we'll take this group in, you know They show good moral underpinnings. Let's let them into the white group, you know, and it's Continuously group after group after group that they're indoctrinated and then if you're not let in Say for instance, I'm just gonna use Italians for instance The upstanding and I remember watching Sopranos and I know that's the bad but just follow me follow me. I'm from Jersey. I'm good. Yeah, that's that's the point. I'm going there the upstanding Italians like scoffed.

1:35:42 at like the traditional Italians. How do you eat meatballs and spaghetti? That's so stereotypical. I mean, I'm just throwing stuff out there, but that's how they look at it. So, I mean, you had this even the black community because when blacks came from the South North, The black people that were northerners would say, you can't do that. You can't sit on your front porch eating watermelons. That makes us look terrible. I mean, who doesn't like watermelon on a hot day? But it's the... You're blocking us from getting our whiteness right? And what do they do with people that don't conform to quote-unquote American whiteness? They make them a subgroup like Jersey Shore's. It's like, forget about it! That kind of thing. Or every group is this

1:36:31 subgroup the Italians the Irish you have upstanding Irish people and then you have the Stereotypical Irish people that go down to the pub and well, how about Texas is a great example You know, you know, you've got some real, you know down-home redneck boys who you know who are just as bad as you think they are but it's probably not the majority and that has a very telltale It comes from their roots. You gotta see who made up Texas. I mean when you go way back, I'm not talking about 1900s, I'm talking about like 1800s. Who first went to Texas? What kind of group of people were they? You know, that's where and that's why it's different Texas to California. People are like, they're both out west. Nah, they're totally different because of the people that made them up. So we, so when we're talking about whiteness,

1:37:26 Now we have to get into the one drop rule to understand even more why whiteness is important to America. In the years following the abolition of slavery, some Americans feared a rise in interracial relationships. So states began passing laws to make sure that any child with a Negro and a white parent could be considered black and denied the rights of white people. In other words, a child with even one drop of Negro blood would be classified as Negro. This became known as the one-drop rule, a standard ruled unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1967. This and the hardships of racism also caused African Americans to pass

1:38:01 pretend they were white without ever telling their families, leaving a lot of whites not knowing they had black blood. But some experts on race relations say the legacy of the one drop rule still exists in today's culture. I love that. That's so funny. So that explains the one drop rule. If you're born with this birth defect of blackness, it's like, oh no, you can't be in the club. I mean, that's how that's how these people looked at. And it's very, these people are very cut and dry. When we get into the and now like I said, I'm not casting Spurgeon or any I'm talking about the group was but like I talked about black ink or Any other I'm just letting people know that if you're white happen to be white Anglo-Saxon and a Protestant We're not talking about necessarily you know, we're talking about the Product that was created because we always talk about products right? Okay the product

CHAPTER 30 / 49 Discussion

Social Class and Status in 1950s America

A 1957 educational clip explains that while American babies are born with equal legal rights, they are not born into equal social classes. The "Ames family" is used as an example of the upper-class WASP elite whose status is ascribed at birth through wealth and lineage. This illustrates the rigid caste system that exists beneath the surface of American democracy.

social class· guilford ames· 1957· status· wealth

1:38:56 um you know all these different products even Jesus Christ the product I mean uh we we separate them from the people and wasp is a product of that's where we want to aspire what they say we want to know the best genetics possible So I found this interesting clip was actually a short movie from the night 1957 and it talks about social class in America our social classes pre predetermined newborn American babies newborn citizens of these United States, free and with rights guaranteed by the Constitution. But let's take a closer look. These new arrivals in a typical American town have equal legal rights. In class, they are not equal at all.

1:39:50 Each has a social status handed on to him by his family, ascribed to him at birth. Meet Guilford Ames III, the latest addition to one of the town's upper-class families. Yelford Ames II is the wealthiest man in town. He owns a large factory. The Ames is one of the oldest families in the community. And so it represents wealth. I love those old clips. So the Ames family is the WASP. Yeah, and this we're talking solely white people is 1957 and they said just because they were born with the same rights Their class is totally different and they lay out the other two classes the middle class and then the lower class and they go on to talk about how How to how to Ames family, you know remain to be you know, the ruling class. Mm-hmm

CHAPTER 31 / 49 Discussion

Noam Chomsky on the Crisis of Democracy

Noam Chomsky discusses "The Crisis of Democracy," a report by the Trilateral Commission that argued there was "too much democracy" in the 1960s. The elite concern was that institutions like schools and churches failed to properly indoctrinate the young. This led to the hijacking of counterculture movements, such as those in Laurel Canyon, by the military-industrial complex.

noam chomsky· trilateral commission· democracy· indoctrination· laurel canyon

1:40:51 And with that said, I have a clip on the ideology of the ruling elite from Noam Chomsky. It's a very important book that came out about it that you ought to take a look at. It's called The Crisis of Democracy. It's published by the Trilateral Commission, Trilaterals Europe, United States, Japan, the three industrial democracies. The concern of the book is that there's too much democracy. The concern about the fact that in the 60s in all the industrial world there were popular uprisings of one sort or another. The participants said is we have to have more moderation in democracy. These people have to go back to where they belong.

1:41:36 Just being observers, passive, let the serious people run things and so on. And in particular they were concerned about students of course, because there was student activism all over. And what they argued was that, I'm now using their words, not mine, that the institutions responsible for the indoctrination of the young failed. The schools, the universities, the churches, they were not carrying out appropriate indoctrination of the young. And something has to be done to reverse this. Oh my! They're not doing it right. Oh my goodness. So that's when you had the counterculture come in and what he's talking about in the 1960s and 70s. The counterculture came in but then the alphabet boys or the federal agents hijacked

1:42:30 The counterculture movie with Laurel Cavern and then what is it called? Where all the birds and all the rock stars came from the same place in California. Oh yeah, it was Laurel Canyon. Laura Canyon, that's it. Thank you. Yep, and and a mysteriously all had military industrial complex parents Then you get into the MK ultra kind of thing. Okay, then you get into Manson It's all kinds of stuff connected to that So the point I'm getting to here is as I made this statement in the last show that we cover the wars that are raging right now the race war and

CHAPTER 32 / 49 Discussion

The White Civil War and "White Trash" History

Professor Nancy Eisenberg explains the history of "white trash" and "waste people" in America, tracing the terms back to British colonial efforts to dump the idle poor in the New World. The current political climate is framed as a "White Civil War" between the WASP elite and the "deplorable" lower class. This class-based conflict often uses racial issues as a proxy or "gauntlet" to shame opponents.

nancy eisenberg· white trash· class war· deplorables· agrarian history

1:43:17 the generational war and the gender war. And somebody on YouTube, I forget your name, made a good point and they said they're all one war, it's a cultural war. But they're not, and they expanded my thought as well, like interacting with people. And I was like, oh, it's the same war, but we're fighting on different fronts. Kind of like World War II. We had the Asian front and you had the European front. So you have all these different things. So what I'm pointing out here is there's a race war, but it's actually a white civil war.

1:43:55 Follow me. Okay. It's always been a white silver war because white people of the wasp status Look at this is not my word. I'm just gonna be let explain why I use it. They look at white trash and as undesirable and need to be gotten rid of. Deplorables. Now if you take a segment of Negroes with them, that's fine. If you take a segment of Hispanics with them, that's fine. But what we have to do You always wonder like why did it what don't they know they're gonna affect their own people didn't dawn to me one day It's not no they're calling. Yes, they're calling their own race. Mm-hmm And if it takes down others with it, so be it I mean, that's why I always say it starts with us first not realizing that if we just fall in that demographic of

1:44:50 They'll run the test on us to affect the demographic they're really trying to get rid of. And the demographic they're really trying to get rid of is the deplorable, is the Trump voter, which in the 1920s, 1910s, early, late 1800s was the white trash. And you really had to read the book by Nancy Eisenberg by the same name, white trash. Author Nancy Eisenberg is a professor of history at Louisiana State University and welcome to you. Well, thanks for having me. I think what hit me most is the idea that the poor have not only been

1:45:26 accepted but expected that it's a part of our national DNA. That's the argument you're making? Well, I think one of the things we forget is that for half of our history we were an agrarian nation. So white trash really comes out of notions of rural poverty. And it goes all the way back to British ideas because in the colonial period and well throughout the 19th century, the mark of being a successful America was being a property owner. And what we've forgotten is that large numbers of Americans did not own property. For example, in Thomas Jefferson's Virginia at the time of the revolution, 40% of white men were landless. So when you refer to white trash, I just want to be clear, and the idea of white trash, literally the term was used, the terms like waste,

1:46:15 Who do you mean? Yes, the word white trash, at least as far as we've been able to discover, first appeared in newspaper print in the 1820s. But it has a much older meaning because if we go back to some of the leading promoters of British colonization, when they imagined what were they going to do with the new world, the new world, first of all, was imagined as a wilderness, what they called a wasteland. And it was the perfect place for literally dumping the idle poor. And these were referred to as waste people. They have waste people. Man, hadn't heard that one. That is nasty.

CHAPTER 33 / 49 Discussion

American Caste System and Upward Mobility

America and Australia are described as having roots as penal colonies for Europe's "waste people." The American caste system allows for some upward mobility, but those who ascend often "pass" into WASP culture and distance themselves from their origins. The debate over reparations is framed as a national debt owed by the state rather than a personal grievance between individuals.

australia· penal colony· caste system· reparations· upward mobility

1:46:55 So we have to look at America how it was created. It's not that long ago. It's not that long ago, Mo. It's not that long ago. These are the strongholds of WASP, right? Australia, America. What were they? Australia was a penal colony. A penal colony that they got all their trash, not my words, all their waste and pumped it out Pumped it out to Australia same thing America a lot of white people came to America not on the Mayflower, but on transportation ships sent here as their Sent here as their punishment for being criminals back in Europe. So when they came here This is this is where when you're doing the work and this is why this is why I did this episode the way I did it

1:47:48 When white people say to other white people, you're privileged. And a white person's like, bro, I'm from rural Kentucky. You know, I had one pair of shoes for three years. I mean, they give you that story, right? And then you compare them to Barack Obama that went to a $90,000 a year school or 40,000, whatever the number was. And you're like, hold on, I have more privilege than him? What are you saying? Because it's a very nuanced conversation. This is why reparation is a non-starter for a lot of people. It's like, why do I have to pay those people? You know, when my ancestors had it harder than their ancestors, you know, or I was poorer than them. The problem with that is, is this, and now let me retort that argument. If I go to Germany right now and become a German citizen, they're gonna say, well, you have to pay Holocaust victims reparations, right? That's what all German citizens do.

1:48:49 I can't say, hey, I wasn't here in 19, you know, during Hitler's reign. Why do I have to pay? I'm a citizen of a country that owes a debt. That's why you have to pay. It has not, it's not personal. And I understand that you have people of different colors that are higher or lower on that spectrum. It's not about the conversation or reparation is not about that. It's about a certain group of people was Systemically oppressed through laws from that nation and they're owed something. So that's all it is to it. So I hope we aren't, what I'm trying to do is remove this, these layers off so people can understand like, yeah, there was

1:49:37 White people that lived in the south that will actually pour they will work to be honest with you a poor white person was at one time in this country seen as less than a free black man now That's the reality You can probably google this I'll see if I can put it in the show knows a lot a lot of show notes for this episode by the way we also include the clips and If you look at who is connected to who, mainly by marriage, in politics, mainstream media, really, you know, yeah, the media apparatus which includes Hollywood, you'll go nuts. I mean, it's literally people are married to press agents inside the White House, top of ABC News, and these networks

1:50:27 That's those are the people by the way who are telling you that you're all we're all race and telling me that I'm racist I'm no good. They're calling people deplorable These are the white privileged and go to Harvard Yale the other Ivy League schools. They're the ones They are the worst in them You know who are worse than the actually ones that were born into privilege the ones seeking privilege. Yeah, who do call their from these they're from these lower class families. I mean, we really, America has a caste system. Let's just be honest here. Sure. America has a caste system and these people are from the lower caste but they have upward mobility. So they take advantage of their upward mobility and what do they do? They pass. We've talked about passing before but we talked about it in a racial sense. Now we're talking about in a class sense because a lot of those people you see on MSNBC, if you follow them home,

CHAPTER 34 / 49 Discussion

Neighborhood Sign Wars and Cultural Tribalism

A sign war between neighbors in Austin, Texas, serves as a microcosm of the current cultural "civil war." One neighbor displays "Truth Matters" and "Black Lives Matter" signs, while the other responds with increasing numbers of Trump and Pence signs. This tribalism is viewed as a way for different factions of the white population to signal their virtues and cull their own groups.

trump signs· black lives matter· austin· civil war· tribalism

1:51:22 I'm not talking about to their apartment in Manhattan. I'm talking about home home. Yeah, like Bill Clinton for instance look at look at Bill Clinton. Yeah, Bill Clinton would be seen as a wasp right? But if you follow him home and look at the other Clintons his mom and dad and those kind of people there will be considered white trash. So I'm telling you what we're in the middle of right now has nothing to do with black people. Nothing at all. No, you're being abused. This is a white civil war and what brought me to this realization, I'm just going to give you a little... That's pretty deep, though. That's pretty deep. I'm going to give you a little example of it. Now I live on a not dead, I'm probably a dead end. I've never been all the way to the other end of the road, but I don't think that's an outlet. So there's no through traffic.

1:52:11 But one guy has the Trump sign up and then the other guy, first he has, I mean they're neighbors too right next door. Oh yeah I've seen this. This is Austin. I'm seeing it play out. So one guy has out vote out the third on November 3rd right sign and then the other guy go gets more Trump signs and then this the other guy and it's called neighbor one neighbor two so neighbor one is the liberal, neighbor two is the the flag-waving conservative. So they're having sign wars. So one guy, when we first pulled up, I'm like, the first thought I see is truth matters. I'm like, okay, I see what he's about. And then like down the road, I see Trump signs. I'm like, okay. And I'm just watching this sign war and they're not doing it for anybody because no, you know, I think there's one

1:53:05 Well wait, wait, wait, wait. Shouldn't they start be, pretty soon they'll be fighting over who's your friend? that you know what I've stayed out of it I'm just I'm just sitting back. You can wait for it. Let me get that black guy in here. I'm watching how it plays out so the truth matter sign shows up first then the Trump sign and then the vote out the turd on November 30th sign shows up then more Trump and Pence signs and then the liberal neighbor one Trump's them all with the Black Lives Matter official sign I mean official like he has the the black and yellow and he had put spotlights on it I mean this is right across the street and I'm like I'm sitting here like this is a friggin civil war This is how it started last time. I mean, but we say it jokingly but this is how it started last time because

1:54:01 Two groups of people, neither one of them owned slaves, used a topic of slavery as the gauntlet. It was thrown down, and what they really want to do is cull their group within their group. But it's like, I have to use the pity of black people to do it. I have to use racism to shame you, to change your mind. And what really is the problem here is, the more liberal people aren't having kids. Oh, no kidding. They're having dogs. While the conservatives are having the children. Yeah. So now it's like, how do we indoctrinate the children? RNA. How do you indoctrinate the children? You're so horrible. You're so bad. I love it. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying, but this is what's playing out. And I'm just sitting back like, I'm being, I'm going to pull it, not me personally, but I'm, and I assume they didn't expect to have black neighbors.

1:55:01 I'm didn't say they wouldn't assume but this is the way it played out. I'm like wow, I'm just witnessing this racial civil war happening. It's very fascinating. And to add to that, what is one side of the white equation doing? They are smashing and breaking the other side, the rich side. Yes. We're going out we're gonna smash some high-end windows, Gucci and Tesla and Which is also, that part is new when it comes to street riots because that's not really what's going on. This is very astute. I too have thought about the privilege, just because clearly we know now that this white privilege, white fragility is bullcrap. It really is a class war. But that still leaves a couple things, well I just want to say that it leaves a couple things open when you're accused of, when people accuse me of privilege, I have a new answer.

CHAPTER 35 / 49 Discussion

Parent Privilege and the Value of Lineage

The concept of "parent privilege"—growing up in a two-parent household—is identified as a more significant factor in success than race alone. The discussion touches on the psychological weight of identity and why individuals like Rachel Dolezal attempt to "pass" into different racial groups. Ultimately, maintaining one's true lineage is presented as a source of personal strength and home.

parent privilege· rachel dolezal· lineage· identity· social status

1:56:06 What's that I do I have parent privilege I grew up with two parents. Oh, okay? Yeah, I mean I and I suffer from the same privilege exactly Maybe that's why we can identify I think so I think so that's what it is I will say privilege does exist and in this in this in this way with passing whether it's your passing from Not my turn. I want to make sure when I use this term, it's not my words. This is Nancy Eisenberg's term white trash. You can easily pass into waspism or white or white of being white.

1:56:51 The real aspect of being white or if you have light skin, we've seen that, we talked about that, you can pass into privilege or the woman that grew up all life and not realized that she was... Rachel Dolezal. So there is a privilege but it's a very nuanced conversation. The way people throw it around, that helps nobody. What we have to do is sit down because there's people that I've encountered in life and they tell me their story and they are so-called white people and that's like I would not trade with you in a million years. And just being black itself, I would not want to be changed even if it allowed me to be privileged because when I wear this skin, this is the same skin that my forefathers wore.

1:57:43 It makes me part of that. I mean, like, it's... It's home. It's home. It's me. It's me. All I am is just a continuation of that same... That's why I call it lineage. I'm just a continuation of it. Yes, but we can make you better with the RNA vaccine. Your children will be much better and your children's children will be fantastic. We can make you say ass! We can get that! Alright, Dr. Mo, we have a very important modification to the gene pool here, so finally we'll get these people to say, ask instead of axe. This is all we've needed. It'll fix the world. Oh my god. Dr. Bill, help us.

CHAPTER 36 / 49 Discussion

The "Trick Baby" Strategy and Neutralizing Leaders

A clip from the 1974 film "Trick Baby" explains a social engineering strategy where "smart ones" from the ghetto are moved up into white society to neutralize them as potential leaders. By providing creature comforts and Ivy League educations, the elite turn these individuals into "safe" versions of themselves who are alienated from their original communities. This model is applied to figures like Bill Clinton and his path as a Rhodes Scholar.

trick baby· bill clinton· rhodes scholar· neutralizing· social engineering

1:58:23 So we've been right on top of this thing for the longest and it just solidified when I re-listened to the trick baby. Ah, it's one of my faves. It's you liberals who have lifted them up. Howard. Paul, you conservatives make a mistake. You can't afford to strangle hope in people. Without hope, people become dangerous. No, Howard. You liberals have let them invade our society. You give them jobs, political jobs. Paul, you missed the point. It's only the smart ones we move up. That makes it even worse. No, no, we have to move them up.

1:59:00 If we leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a leader against us. But if we raise him up into white society, we neutralize him. He feels compelled to try to act like us. He loses his identity and his racial anger, if he has any. He becomes alien to his brothers. They realize he sold them out and they grow to hate him. He becomes worthless to them and safe for us. No, thank you. In fact, in his love for the creature comforts except for his color, he's become one of us.

1:59:37 And that was what 1975? 1976? 1974. 1974. Not even that long ago. So let's take the racial aspect out of it and think about them talking about a Bill Clinton. Yeah. Make him a Rhodes Scholar. That'll lift him out. Which roads in itself, Caesar roads in itself is you know white supremacy you know. Rhodesia, yes exactly. So there's like they send him over to white supremacy school, get him trained up and when he comes back he won't identify with his arcane brothers. He won't make trouble.

2:00:19 Right, so I mean it's just not, this thing goes way deeper than race. It's just much more visible when we talk about race. Yes, and then of course you have the ultimate white trash who has all the markers, has all the checks, he's got the receipts, but he'll never be one of us, and that's Donald Trump. Which he was born into the wall. I mean he is a wasp. I mean like by genetics Queens He is a wasp. Yeah, because he is a Protestant and we said he's white Anglo-Saxon But he didn't pass their test. He's he's uncouth and you know, he's you know, he's unkept and uncouth. Yep, so I'm Hopefully people find value in this and this and this is why we do the show. I

CHAPTER 37 / 49 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Global Listener Support

The hosts read credits for the executive and associate executive producers of episode 47, acknowledging financial support from listeners in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Austria. Notable donors include Aaron Bear, a nurse, and Timothy Kiernan. The "Value for Value" model is emphasized as the primary driver for the show's independent production and research.

value for value· executive producers· austria· michigan· pennsylvania

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2:02:39 Lower than usual surprisingly it was about half of what we usually seen but want to thank those people who did come in and we have three four five six seven executive producers And actually only executive producers no associate executive produce. Oh, no. I'm sorry one two three one It's even isn't it yeah? No. It's four associates three executives there we go and And this of course is where we ask you to go to MoFax.com to support the show or directly to the donation page at MoFundMe.com. We start off with Aaron Bear, $100. And Aaron says, first and foremost, Mo, I've decided to take seven weeks off from work as a nurse and I'm moving at the end of the month. Needless to say, the money I have apportioned for this transitional time did not include a donation to your show without him. However, value for value compels me, all caps,

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CHAPTER 38 / 49 Discussion

Listener Donations, Mo Karma and Meetup Requests

The hosts acknowledge various smaller donations, providing "Mo Karma" to contributors and discussing the possibility of future listener meetups in the DC area. They address "deadbeats" who listen without supporting and play a "Baby Boomer" clip requested by a donor. The segment concludes with a call for continued support via MoFacts.com and MoFundMe.com.

mo karma· deadbeats· venmo· meetups· baby boomer

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CHAPTER 39 / 49 Discussion

Passing for Norwegian and the Pressure of Whiteness

A story about a man in Pittsburgh changing his Polish last name to "Birch" to find work illustrates the historical pressure to conform to WASP standards. His daughter describes the feeling of "passing" for Norwegian or Dutch as a way to gain social acceptance and beauty. This pressure is framed as the root of modern political movements like Marxism, which some view as a reaction to being excluded from the "capitalist club."

pittsburgh· polish· norwegian· passing· social status

2:14:43 All right. So coming out of the donation set a case of passing, but this time as a wasp, my father was born in 1905. His name was Edmund Paul Butch Kowski B U C Z K O W S K I. And when he went out as a young man to look for work, the only thing he found were signs in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania that said Polish need not apply. So he changed our name. He changed it from Borshkovsky to Burt. I went to college. I got married. Man, I'm married first.

2:15:25 was a man whose last name was Norwegian. I always felt like Carol Birch sort of sounded like Klip Klop, just such a bitey sort of name. And now my name was Carol Nermo. I thought that was so wonderful. You know, there's no stigma in being Norwegian. And aren't all Norwegians beautiful and tall and clean and good and now maybe was I all those things suddenly tall suddenly beautiful suddenly good and when that marriage ended in a divorce who was I huh you know do you know that even though I was born in the United States born to American wasp legacy very often I passed for Dutch

2:16:22 I was about by appearance or in everything because you mastered the language or I mean is it no well first of all the the the blonde hair the bluish eyes and I definitely have some Dutch traits absolutely I'm just saying there you can pass there's many ways you can pass lots of people in the Dutch people feel that I am one of them I noticed that. I mean, they claim you as one of their own. I was about to say, he's Dutch. He's Dutch, man. Leave him alone. He's Dutch. He's one of ours. He's one of us. But I want to show people this. When I heard this clip, what came to mind was Pinky from our show about passing. Right.

2:17:06 It was like when those two guys stopped her on a roll. They first thought she was a white woman They're like ma'am. You don't need to be on this side of town this this time of night, you know She's like all from around here an instance in an instant their perception of her change. Yep Her complexion didn't change her appearance didn't change any of that but their perception her change now when I hear this clip and then think about in the same mindset and Just from her last name changing now her father changed it from a Polish last name to a more I'll say American birch I don't know like what that falls under but then but she still didn't feel like that was enough But when she got a Norwegian last name, she's a all finally. Yes This makes me feel now her appearance didn't change nothing changed about her and this is the real pressure of

2:18:02 Waspism or whiteness. I mean, let's just call it what it I mean cuz I know I use wasp but Protestant really doesn't matter anymore. It's whiteness. I mean, this is what they refer to These are we always have a look at words and how they're used the white supremacy say when people say whiteness they actually mean the archetype of Wasp, mm-hmm, you know you come from a two-parent household financially not even stable, but your your future is laid out for you. You know, your dad made all the right decisions. You're going to college. That's the thing that Trump gets right? I mean, it's the same that he gets his his dad gave him two million dollars. I mean, like, yeah, and all the people that have issues with Donald Trump we've pointed out has exactly issue. And I don't

2:18:56 I don't say that as a bad thing, but I think the disdain they have is for their own fathers to say, why did you bring me into this country, into this world, less than. I mean, I think that is the real issue because they're like, dad, why couldn't you be like Trump's dad and have me $2 million laid out so I could be anything I wanted to have? And that manifests itself as, you know what, if I can't have $2 million, nobody can either. Let's get rid of capitalism. Let's go with Marxism. That's the real root of it. And that's just the teachers and the professors saying it. Yeah, like I said, it's amazing and there is a white civil war going on. I wish more people would talk about it.

CHAPTER 40 / 49 Discussion

The Absurdity of Modern Protests and Flyover States

The sight of all-white crowds protesting for Black Lives Matter is described as an Orwellian absurdity where "good is bad" and "up is down." The elite's disregard for "flyover states" and the "trash" who live there is linked to the indifference toward the fentanyl crisis in those communities. This "calling" of the population is seen as a deliberate strategy to remove those who do not fit the elite's vision.

black lives matter· flyover states· fentanyl· orwell· social calling

2:19:47 Oh, and... Well, you've only just opened our eyes to it, Mo, so give us a heartbeat. White people are in shock. We gotta think about this for a moment. It's like, oh, hold on a second. There's something to this. Yeah, of course. that's what you see when people show up to other people's houses saying black lives matter and it's all white people. Isn't that great? It's like it's all in the open. That's what I love so much about this period. All these absurdities are out in the open and it is and you know it's Orwell's 84, it's like good is bad, up is down, fear is strength.

2:20:25 you know, Black Lives Matter is white people protesting. It's out in the open. The absurdity of it is there and we're just, oh, okay. You know, we're either too stoned, too drunk, too fearful probably. That's the best one, fear as it goes. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. And then they trigger each other with these jabs and these pokes, right? You know, All lives matter. Another thing, when you're doing the work, never use that term. It's a non-starter. I mean, I'm just be honest with you. We all know all lives matter. But what has been done is it's been hijacked to be almost an insult.

2:21:13 say all lives matter. We know this. But what you're doing is you're bringing yourself down to their level of people that try to weaponize Black Lives Matter and you weaponize this other statement and it just furthers the internal white civil war. And I think the... Which helps nobody. If you break it down into groups, you're going to see really It's not even Democrat-Republican, it's really the Nationalist Party and the Nazi Party. That's really what it is. And I hate to see it, but all I see from Democratic leadership and the things we listen to here and look at and analyze

2:21:59 is very reminiscent of creating an uber race, getting rid of the weak elements, a lot of the tactics that are used. It feels just like a lot of historical repeat, i.e. the Second World War. And it's not only white people that embrace this, it's a lot of black people that look at a lot of lower class black people and like, if we could just get rid of them, Then we'll be accepted then we're up then we move up Yeah, yeah, we got to get rid of this we make what they want to do is and this is this is how when you say I want to be clear when I say whiteness Because none of us are white. You're not white Adam. I'm not black I mean we really need to get to figure out who we are because these are corporate designations and of

2:22:52 Social constructs, I mean, for lack of a better word. So we have to get rid of those, but when black people go off and get into academia and affluent positions, they look at like, if we could just get rid of those bottom feeders. then the whole race could come up. And that is the, that's the whitest mind you can have. Not when I, when I say that I'm talking about the textbook turn that we laid out for white supremacy. Yes. That is the white supremacist mind. Like if we can not let them be who they are, but we can just get rid of them and then they won't associate me with them. Yeah. And that's what you see now, like I said, with Trump and what he brought about is that now it's like, I thought they felt like,

2:23:41 They've solved that problem, right? I thought we got rid of those people. I thought they were what they say they need to die. Yeah They'll say like those old white people they need to die and it's like what? But that's the calling. I mean in the calling is real and that's why they have no problem with fentanyl and prescription drugs filtering over into the white community. It's all poor people. They had no problem taking away their jobs, their, which of the manufacturing, everything. The whole concept of a flyover state, fly over the trash honey. Just fly over. The fact we say that it's like, oh, they get on TV I'm like, people have to realize there's stakes between New York and California.

CHAPTER 41 / 49 Discussion

MTV as the "Fentanyl of the 80s"

MTV is characterized as the "fentanyl of the 80s," serving as a highly addictive cultural product for youth in impoverished areas. One host recounts his time traveling to radio stations across the country, including Alaska, and witnessing the massive influence of the network. This illustrates how big money eventually hijacks and ruins counterculture art.

mtv· headbangers ball· rock and roll· counterculture· 1980s

2:24:28 Hello, I mean like Why did you You didn't realize that it's people, you know, and it's the same thing with people in the arm. Well Having grown up East Coast Obviously privileged two parents groovy but by no means It Not a deplorable not white trash, but probably borderline deplorable my parents were government So is that kind of you kind of get you're okay. You get this flow along with the system but I to it until I started doing shows to promote my radio show in the late 80s and 90s where I really went to almost every single bad top 40 radio station in the country including Alaska in Anchorage and

2:25:19 And there you see it. It's like, okay, there's all these people here and wow, let me tell you, they really love their MTV. Holy crap. I was part of the fentanyl of the 80s, man. That was crack for the kids, especially in impoverished areas across the United States. It was like, holy crap, this is rock and roll. This is great. This is for us. Wasn't, but You know that they were counterculture it was always gets embraced because for a little bit counter you have to be the well, that's what happens big money always comes in it ruins the art by Paying off of buying or saying buying up spots. So we see that all the time. Yeah well, yeah, it's it's really a sense of um

CHAPTER 42 / 49 Discussion

WASP Etiquette Lessons and Language Identifiers

Etiquette rules, such as not saying "drapes" or "lingerie," serve as linguistic identifiers to separate the WASP elite from the lower classes. The hosts discuss being raised according to Emily Post's rules and how these "boule lessons" were adopted by upwardly mobile black families. The story of Tina Turner returning from England with a British accent is used to show how language is used to signal a change in social status.

emily post· etiquette· tina turner· linguistics· social class

2:26:13 I'm better than you. That's what it all boils down to. Sure does. And that's and we heard that on the last show with how black people talk to other black people. How can you do that? How can you think that way? You know, there's no room for freedom of thought. So just on a lighter note, I have a couple of clips from people like us deleted scenes and they have wasp lessons from people like us. Okay, here we go. They were words that I grew up knowing that I was not allowed to say. And if I heard someone say that, that was a red flag that might take 20 years for me to recover from. I might never forget that they said that word. But I unfortunately have had so many concussions from falling off horses that I can only remember them when I hear them. Evening gown was certainly one of them. Lingerie, my

2:27:07 If someone said that word, you would never forget it. Drapes for curtains. I cringe at that word. It really has to do with the way you were brought up. The way your aunt showed you how to pick up a teacup. The way your mother showed you how to write a thank you note. You have to talk about piping. Piping is called piping rock. And you call it piping. You do that thing with your chin. Wow, my mom was wannabe. She... Oh my god, that's so funny. We were raised, Mo, we were raised according to Emily Post's book of etiquette. And this was, if you look, I'll put it in the show notes, Emily Post, she wrote the book, she wrote this book on how to drink your tea, how the table is set, how to speak, where to put your napkin. Oh yeah.

2:28:06 Oh yeah, boule lesson. I mean, uh, wasp lesson. No, no, you're right. No, you're right. But also boule, yes, of course. The boule is nothing but the black wasp. Right? I mean, it's just over because there's certain things I don't know. I never knew where they came from, but you don't wear white after Labor Day. I'm like, what? I mean, like, I never understood that. But in my, in our community, these, I guess they learned it from white folks that we're in close proximity to, but these things, Tilt her down and I just remember certain of them Like I said curtains how to do I mean how do you how you kept your house? Yeah, sure a lot of those things that were learned

2:28:51 And I will say this when New York people when black people would go to New York and come back I'm talking about older black people who's the one did a great migration They would pick up a lot of that wasp isms and bring them back to the south and they spoke very proper like in Yes, my grandma used to tell her sister like why are you talking like that? You know that kind of thing and she was very proper. Oh, I've told you my I've told you my Tina Tortina Turner story haven't I? Right, yeah. But, okay, so anyway, Tina Turner, when she went to England for a while, she came back to Tina Turner, I am Tina Turner, I am Tina Turner beyond Thunderdome. And she had this like weird kind of European, kind of British accent, it was really odd.

2:29:37 And New Yorkers would do the same thing. People that were from the South, grew up in the South all their life, would go back and they would embrace this certain way of speaking. And language is such an identifier. I mean if you listen to up speak, up talk, dropping T's, a lot of, hey I identify with you because I talk like this and so you know that I'm part of your club and you know that I'm blah blah blah. Maybe subliminally, there's a reason why you say axe. I don't know, you know? And I want to say this, this is just a general question. It hurts people so bad. It doesn't hurt people. Not you, I'm just saying like...

CHAPTER 43 / 49 Discussion

Fashion as a Systemically Racist Tool

The rule against wearing white after Labor Day was created in the late 19th century by old-money elites to exclude the "nouveau riche." Valerie Steele of the Fashion Institute of Technology notes that these subtle fashion manipulations were designed to identify outsiders who didn't know the rules. This demonstrates how fashion has historically been used as a tool for systemic social and racial exclusion.

fashion· labor day· nouveau riche· valerie steele· social exclusion

2:30:20 You have Jamaicans that say tree for three. No, no, no, it's exactly what we're talking about. It is an irritation. Hey, don't you want to be where you really want to be? Don't you really want to be with the WASP crowd? Learn how to speak properly. That's exactly what these clips are saying. Learn how to say ask! Yeah, but that is so... No, but listen, think about it. That is truly a white supremacist issue. Yeah, you know, you can't say it properly so you don't belong here. By the way, I looked up the the white after Labor Day. I don't know if everyone knows this.

2:31:03 That's a thing, you're not supposed to wear white after Labor Day. Marie Claire magazine actually has a pretty good description. In the late 19th century, long before you could wear jeans to a Michelin star restaurant, the society ladies were engaged in an invisible battle with the nouveau riche, i.e. white supremacists. One that could only be won by the subtle manipulation of fashion. The you-can't-wear-white-after-labor-day rule, fashion ladies and gentlemen, was created to separate the old money elitists from the new money group. It was insiders trying to keep other people out according to Valerie Steele, director of the Museum at the Fashion Institute of Technology.

2:31:43 and outsiders trying to climb by providing they know the rules. Fashion is in fact systemically racist on purpose. And we had this saying, we have this saying in the black community, if you know, you know. And this kind of thing, like if you know, if you're truly a WASP, no good upstanding WASP will wear white after Labor Day. But the new people will come in like, and there'll be a, you know, like a, you know, a signifier, like, oh, they're not really one of us. Not really, they're doing it all wrong.

CHAPTER 44 / 49 Discussion

WASP Modesty and the "No Food" Myth

WASP culture is described as valuing modesty, such as driving old Mercedes or wearing Gucci shoes until they are threadbare. A joke about WASPs having no food in their houses because they are "extremely modest" is explored. One host shares his experience of skiing in Austria and the "measured" nature of his Protestant upbringing, contrasting it with the braggadocious nature of "new money" figures like Donald Trump.

mercedes· gucci· modesty· austria· social habits

2:32:20 And to hear more examples of this, let's get into Wasp Lessons 2. They're extremely modest people. They never show off. And they're more likely to have a small house than a large one. We have the historic house. We have the threadbare oriental carpets. We have everything you need to be upper class. Mercedes. old Mercedes not new Mercedes nothing after 89 wasps love to party and they like to drink for free the upper class is extremely relaxed you never wear too many pearls wear Gucci shoes but

2:33:02 Wear them to death. Wear them out. And wear them during the summer with no socks. Madras pants. Madras pants. Some. A lot of people wear madras pants, Gordy. I mean, you know the great joke about wasps. Why don't they have any cockroaches in their house? There's nothing to eat. True. Nothing to eat in my house. We'd all starve by dinner time. Is that a thing like in light and light this is why I look at him I always say this you're one of the few only real white people. I know yeah, okay I hope you take that the way I mean it what I mean by is like you said your Anglo-saxon You came from course. No, I'm just saying cuz like it's like you just said oh, yeah, we went to Austria the ski and I'm like what? So is it like the nonchalant listen you say that so is this a

2:33:58 No food in the house? Is that a thing? Like, do WASPs not keep groceries? Well, let me address the Austrian ski trip first. Yeah. In all of Europe, but certainly in the Netherlands, there's two types of holidays. One is you go camping in the summer. Or you go to the south of France and you drive, you all drive. Or you have winter sport which is actually, hey what are you doing for this, going on winter sport. And most people will drive. We actually took the train each year which was a sleeper train.

2:34:38 So it sounds a lot better than it is. No, I understand the way you said it. I was like, wow. Buffy, Buffy, Buffy, he went to Selham Silla for skiing. Oh yes, shooshing down the mountain. Oh yes, I've got my gold ski with metal from class. We would always say, she hiles, she hiles, she hiles. I'm not kidding. Only wasps know for me. So no food in the house. This is interesting. I can't say that... No, because you laughed. I'm just not even know if it struck a chord with you. Well, I laughed for a whole bunch of reasons. Of course, I have a wasp upbringing, but gosh, that's real. I mean...

CHAPTER 45 / 49 Discussion

Hunger Winter Memories and Hip-Hop Sensibilities

A host shares his mother-in-law's stories of the "Hunger Winter" in WWII Rotterdam, which influenced his habit of keeping an abundant supply of food. This is contrasted with his "hip-hop" persona at MTV, where he drove a Rolls Royce and carried a mobile phone in a briefcase. The "Grey Poupon" in the dashboard served as a playful nod to the elite status symbols he was subverting.

rotterdam· world war ii· rolls royce· mtv· grey poupon

2:35:39 We probably didn't have, it was all kind of measured, you know, it's like here's what there is and don't touch that and you know, it wasn't like always planned out. Yeah, it was planned out. Yes. Although what's interesting is mainly because of my, uh, my first wife's mother, so my mother-in-law who is still with us, she's now 94 and they stayed with us a lot. And they all went through the hunger winter in World War II. You know, they got bombed out of their homes in Rotterdam and her husband would ride on a bicycle with wooden tires for 50 kilometers up to get one sugar beet and they'd make soup out of rocks and nettles. And so... I love that privilege. That's right.

2:36:31 And so I think, because I was married very young, so I think a lot of her influence rubbed off on me. I am always the guy who has, if you're coming over to dinner and you all of a sudden brought two friends, no problem, I got enough. If the kids are, especially if the kids are around, I'm hungry, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, here's all this stuff I got. Because that was kind of the environment that I was put in. But in the Netherlands in general, very Calvinist, so you know, like super Protestant, really waspy when you think about it. Very sparse.

2:37:08 You know, you have one piece of, you know, you have two pieces of bread with cheese and butter in the morning. It's always fish on Friday, and it's always measured, and yeah, no abundance of food. Measured, I guess, is what I'd call it. But no food, no food. Yeah, it is, maybe. And I think that's the triggering of Trump. Now we get back to the troll, right? To, you know, the trolling of Trump. The gold ceilings, having your own airplane, you know, the braggadocious nature. All these are counter-whosp. If you listen to what she said, they were like, it's pretty much Mercedes. It's pretty much hip hop culture is what it is.

2:37:50 Yeah, but see like you said you drive a Mercedes but nothing over 89. Old Mercedes. You know that kind of thing. Or you wear Gucci shoes but you gotta wear them out. That was me. I always had like, hey cool car man yeah you like it? Yeah I had a Rolls Royce. I bought it in in 89. It was from 79. It only had 5,000 miles on it, but still it was like it was not it was not the brand-new spanking Continental at the time you know it was the it was the silver shadow too, so yeah I would because it signifies a certain I mean I guess they do that because it's part of being a wasp is you have to be like modest with it You know you don't talk about money. Oh no um

2:38:35 No, I wanted the $250,000 version. I couldn't afford it. So I'll settle for this. Oh, so you were more hip-hop. You were more hip-hop. I am way hip-hop. Way hip-hop. I was the first person anyone at MTV had ever seen who had a mobile phone in my briefcase. You know, the big VHS size phone. People be like hey man. Yeah, I had all that moe I had all that stuff. I was first first first first first we call that being geechy and And that's when this is... But the roller, now because I had my leather jacket on with my headbangers ball hair in the Rolls Royce driving into New York every single day. I'd say... Put your cell phone in your briefcase. And I had the Grey Poupon in the dashboard in case someone asked which happened a lot so yeah yeah I was kind of hip-hop I guess.

CHAPTER 46 / 49 Discussion

Fareed Zakaria on the Virtues of the WASP Establishment

Fareed Zakaria discusses the nostalgia for the old WASP establishment following the death of George H.W. Bush. He argues that while the system was exclusionary, it possessed a sense of "public spiritedness" and restraint because the aristocracy was secure in its power. Critics interpret this as a longing for a time when white supremacy allowed leaders to ignore public opinion.

fareed zakaria· george h.w. bush· establishment· aristocracy· iraq war

2:39:33 In these next few clips, I know everybody's worried about the wasp. They're an endangered species. But have no fear. There is a wasp conservation effort going on. Oh, thank goodness. The death of George H.W. Bush has occasioned a fair amount of nostalgia for the old American establishment of which Bush was undoubtedly a prominent member. It's also provoked a heated debate among commentators about that establishment, whose membership was determined largely by bloodlines and connections. You had to be a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant to ascend to almost any position of power in America until the early 1960s. Surely there is nothing good to say about a system that was so discriminatory toward everyone else.

2:40:20 Actually there is. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Fareed Zakaria. Alright. So we have, we have Fareed caping for the wasp. Yeah. Which I thought this is fascinating that he, cause he's a, um, is he Indian Pakistani? He's Indian? Yeah, I think Asian. I think he's Indian Pakistani. Yeah. But this goes to show you how much they they are praising George Bush poppy Bush the guy Angel of death himself. Yes Although and I know I say not I brought this up with when he passed how long the nation mourned He is the basically king of modern America. I'll run down it one more time. He had his term and

2:41:10 Of, of, I mean he had, excuse me, start with Reagan. He had Reagan's term, which a lot of people say Reagan was not, uh, mental, uh, capable, mentally capable. Yeah, he's mentally capable. So we had George Bush senior steering those eight years and then he won his four years and then he has his, uh, WASP inductee Bill Clinton come along which he ran against him so either way he would have won. The family would have won. And then you go to Barack Obama, well his son, which he ran, he quarterbacked through Cheney, and then his other adopted Woff son, Barack Obama won, and then you had what was setting up to be Clinton against Bush. I mean they've run, I don't want people to miss this out. They've been running the tables.

2:42:03 Every election they've had their candidate in there except for when the anti-wasp the wasp eater of 45 Savage came through and just destroyed his son and his adoptive daughter Yes, and we've been under wasp rule all of our lives Moe. Although I remember Carter kind of There we go again. Yeah But I mean just for Reed he's over here, he's gushing over the day that you know the country and a lot of people are. And that's when you see these never Trumpers, they're really wasp. I mean they that's what they are. I mean when you I mean that's when we talk about the neocons and we got like the deep state all these people have a not

2:42:49 say wasp per se, but they have the wasp mentality of, no, being modest while you rule. It's like, if you want to be a good ruler, you don't let the people see that, you know, we have the finer things. So let's listen to Fareed cape over the WASP even more. For all its faults, and it had many, it was often horribly bigoted, in some places segregationist, and almost always exclusionary. At its best, the old WASP aristocracy did have a sense of modesty, humility, and public spiritedness that seems largely absent in today's elite.

2:43:30 Many of Bush's greatest moments, his handling of the fall of communism, his decision not to occupy Iraq after the first Gulf War, his acceptance of tax increases to close the deficit, were marked by restraint, an ability to do the right thing despite enormous pressure to pander to public opinion. But, and here is the problem, it is likely that these wasp virtues flowed from the nature of that old elite. The aristocracy was quite secure in its power and position, so it could afford to think about the country's fate in broad terms and look out for the longer term, rising above self-interest because its own interest was assured.

CHAPTER 47 / 49 Discussion

Presidential Aesthetics and the WASP Standard

The term "presidential" is identified as a WASP standard of communication and appearance that Donald Trump famously violates. Joe Biden's appearance, including his hair and mask etiquette, is scrutinized against this standard of "unruffled" leadership. Kamala Harris is viewed as a "card-carrying member" of the elite who fits the necessary lineage and aesthetic requirements for the establishment.

joe biden· kamala harris· presidential· aesthetics· mask etiquette

2:44:13 Yeah, it's... So let me translate what I heard. Sure. Let me just... He's saying that we miss the old days when leadership were anchored in white supremacy so they could do the right thing without having to pander to the lesser groups. That's what I heard. I mean, let me hear... I want to hear what you heard. Yeah, well, this really comes down to the term presidential. This is one of the biggest problems the WASP and the elites have with Trump, is he's not doing it right. He's not communicating right. This is not how you do it. This is not presidential. And we've become so accustomed to that, that you saw Joe Biden give his speech, basically the same one from 2004 or 2008. It'd be a presidential. That's what we want. Yes, don't worry everybody. I'll take care of it.

2:45:10 Often confused and that should be like this is the most diverse party and they've been on it for three four years now We're gonna need a diverse representation But then they pivot right back to the wasp representation of Joe Biden because they need to make sure They send a certain message and the well qualified and passing Kamala Harris Yeah, cuz I mean as we looked into her uh her lineage laughs she comes from the right stuff and slave owning on one side and the highest cast in India on the other side. It's like she checks off. Yeah, she was already a card carrying member. I would like to say one thing about Joe Biden. They should have not have him come out with the mask on and take it off because his hair sticking out the side of his head made him like a madman.

2:46:01 So that was very unpresidential, just in appearance. He looked very unkept. That's the same when he hangs the mask off of one ear, you know, that's like, that's not a presidential thing to do. Yeah, because he walked up with the, I mean, just to show you how, like, I was going to speak to your point about presidential. Yes. We never see a president with his hair out of place. So when he was standing up, I'm just telling you how I was triggered You said that I look and I was like no no no no no It's not right So what happened was when he went to walk up with the mask on when he took it off it brought a patch of his hair out to the side and it hurt me for it to no end and

2:46:48 I didn't notice that. That's funny. It's the waspism in me, right? Because it's like, you can't be a president and have hair like that. That's all right, Moe. Keep it up. You'll be in the club soon enough, my friend. You're working well. But you know what, though? A lot of my raising, I will have to say this. Sure, as wasp. I was raised Protestant. Sure. I was raised, if you want to say two parents is a white thing. I was raised in that way. I was forced to speak correct English when necessary. We were more lax around the house with the English, I mean conversational English, but you couldn't break grammar rules. I mean, no, the conjugating verbs the wrong way and that kind of, no, that was not accepted. That was not accepted. So I think it's weird that we had

CHAPTER 48 / 49 Discussion

Common Bedrock of Upbringing and the Bill Gates "Daddy Issues"

Despite racial and generational differences, the hosts find common ground in their "waspy" upbringings focused on manners and etiquette. They speculate that Bill Gates' aggressive philanthropy might be a form of overcompensation for "daddy issues" and not fitting his father's elite expectations. This is compared to J.P. Morgan, who also faced disapproval from his father for his unconventional business interests.

bill gates· jp morgan· manners· etiquette· social rearing

2:47:43 I hope people cherish what we, me and Adam do here. For you've traveled the world. I've only lived in two states my whole life and as a up until 27 years old, I lived in one state. You know, we both came from two-parent households, but racially we're different, generationally we're different, but we find so many common things off the way we were reared. Yes. That, you know, that's the real common bedrock. And I think that, you know, waspism is probably the, I think we've now discussed it, you know, that's the original culture.

2:48:20 of America, and there's a lot of this upbringing, the ones you just mentioned, which are super appropriate and part of our overall culture, which is politeness, you know, a lot of things that, you know, You don't have to go to college. Manners. Manners. Manners. Etiquette. My grandma, she would take her head off if you had your elbow on the table. Oh my goodness, elbow on the table? Same thing, Mo. And if you made the mistake that you put your knee up above the edge of the table, my grandma would stick a fork in it.

2:48:55 Stick a fork right under the table you eat with the other unless you're cutting meat or something like that when you cut meat you put it back down and then you You know you had to hold your fork a certain way so these things bled over So I'm not saying all things wasp are bad what I'm saying is that To maintain this illusion. Yes of what they owe America to to appear to be They have to get rid of the undesirables Be it their own, be it other groups, you have to go. You seriously have to go. And you've got to wonder when it comes to this, when you have the rebels, the undereducated, the misfits who go off and create

2:49:41 Companies like Microsoft and Apple and other unbelievable I mean Elon Musk didn't go to college When when you see that those are the ones that are creating the big creative new ideas You know, what do you really want to strive for? What's really important and I'm glad you brought that point up go ahead finish I'm glad you brought that point up because it just made me think of something could Bill Gates be Virtue signaling and trying to overcompensate because he's not of that wasp

2:50:17 Background and when I'm say wasp I'm not talking about the religious He's not from that ilk so he's like I could show you I could kill people better than anybody else I'll get rid of all your undesirables just let me in. Well talk about daddy issues look at his father his father was a super white supremacist elite wasp mofo way up there Very important guy. Not, not in disgust. I've seen that but I haven't been able to validate it. But I've seen, I've seen that. So, daddy, how about this? Try this on. Daddy issues. Trying to make up for not being all daddy wanted him to be and finishing college and even, even the success of Microsoft is probably still not exactly what he was supposed to do. You know, compensating for it. It's very possible. Very possible. And when you say that, it makes me think, I'm gonna say this one last thing before we get into the last clip.

2:51:13 I witnessed this before in the telling of history. JP Morgan went through the same thing. He was great at making money. He was great at making deals. But his dad was of that wasp ilk. And he was like, Pierpont, he was like, that electricity that you're dealing with is like magic. You know what I'm saying? It was looked down upon that he wasn't dealing in the kingdom. Sorcery. How come he got in the war business? Exactly or or the finance business business or those that kind of thing so it does matter the kind of business that you're in like computers Right so I just want to say that so to bring us back to the vaccine Because I mean I know people like how do you get from vaccine? It was a fun journey. Uh, this is I like I like where we landed. I

CHAPTER 49 / 49 Discussion

Wealthy Parents Opting Out of Vaccines and Outro

A report highlights that parents in wealthy communities like Malibu and Santa Monica are increasingly refusing to vaccinate their children, led by pediatricians like Dr. Bob Sears. This is contrasted with the push to vaccinate lower-income and minority populations. The episode concludes with a reminder of the "Value for Value" model and a musical outro featuring the "Honeybee" song.

dr. bob sears· measles· affluent communities· steve jobs· value for value

2:52:05 But we but let's button up with this last clip about certain types of parents and their vaccination habits. Public health officials say they are alarmed at the growing number of cases of measles and whooping cough. They blame parents who are now refusing to immunize their kids. And it's happening mostly in wealthy communities. Carter Evans has a case in point. By his own admission, Dr. Bob Sears may be the only pediatrician in Southern California who does not advocate child vaccination. What percentage of your patients would you say choose not to get their children vaccinated in some form?

2:52:42 I would say about half of my patients are not vaccinating. It's a growing trend, especially in affluent communities like Santa Monica and Malibu, where nearly 15% of kindergartners are not immunized. In the Orange County community where Dr. Sears practices, almost 10% of kindergartners were not vaccinated. You don't necessarily have to live in fear of these diseases. You have to respect the diseases. You have to understand them, but they're fairly unlikely to happen to any individual child. Dr. Sears says he's not anti-vaccine, but people need to know about the risks. Parents don't want their baby to have a bad side effect. They don't want to be a victim of a very severe vaccine reaction. If you don't vaccinate your child, or if you're waiting to think about it, then you're taking a risk. You're putting their life at risk, potentially. You're gambling. You are. You're gambling. And usually at gambling, you lose.

2:53:36 Interesting how the elites just don't want to do no I got all kinds of reasons for this but that now my kids let the poor people do it isn't that amazing mmm all is said and done and their belief is science which belief in science is belief in waspism itself I mean because the way they say you know the the the media the universities, all those are white Anglo-Saxon Protestant institutions. So when you question those things, you question their whole existence, but then when the rubber really meets the road, they don't even believe in their own in their own things. And as a reminder Steve Jobs never let his kids play or have an iPhone or an iPad. It's a tool of indoctrination. You gotta wonder why they didn't. I mean this all the big Silicon Valley CEOs their kids are not on Instagram all the day do they really limit that if let them at all. I would like to see vaccination records of those their kids as well. They talk the big talk but

2:54:38 Nah. Right. In the meantime, I'm going to see if I can find some certificates for you and your kids. That black mark is happening. I appreciate that, sir. I'm sure it's on the dark web. Yeah, it's on the dark web. It's on the dark web. Mo, this was a lot of fun. I did not expect this twist. Enjoyed the conversation a lot. Learned a lot about myself. Me too. Yeah. Well, man, that's the best part of it. And this is what we do and we appreciate the help we get from everybody and the financial support Please remember its value for value. So if you thought this was valuable, we'd love to See that coming back to us for that mo facts commos for the archives and directly to the donation page at mo fund me.com moe fu Ndm e.com and as I always say

2:55:31 Pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. Our eyes are peeled once again and we'll be looking forward to seeing y'all back here in about a week from now. Mo, great show man. Thank you so much. I had a good time. Alright, thanks Adam. See you next week. Alright everybody, take care. Next week here on Mo Facts with Adam Curry. From my heart Don't you do, don't you do the king's plan, dear honeybee Oh no! Don't fly away Don't you fly away Oh, take the pride of a handful And the banshee's flame, my lord We're getting together, yeah! Long time

2:56:42 Honeybee, don't you sting me, sting me, sting me No, no, no Don't fly away from my heart Don't you do it, don't you do it again, baby, baby Honeybee, don't you sting me, sting me, sting me I'm telling you Don't fly away from my heart Don't you, don't you, don't you sting me, honeybee Honeybee, don't you sting me, sting me, sting me I'm just a ghost now