07: Mo Money Mo Problems

00:08 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for September 16th, 2019. Episode number 7! Two American dudes talking it up Hey Mo how are ya? I'm doing good how you doin' Adam? I'm doing real good You know it's Monday once again that means mo facts around these parts of Austin Yes, and as you know the song goes more money more problems. That's right! Yes although I you know being an old guy it's like all I just keep hearing Diana Ross I don't hear anything else You know this I saw her in the round when I was 15

00:49 That's pretty amazing. And that's what this show is all about, it's perspective. You can hear the same thing and see it two different ways because when I hear that, I hear them notorious B-I-G more money more problems. Exactly! So speaking of which more money more problems we spoke in the last show about families and people not wanting to have families or the difficulties having families in these times Right so as that show ended Beginning of the, maybe Tuesday or Wednesday I got an interesting email from a friend and it's the title of the article was this budget shows how $350,000 salary barely qualifies as middle class. Yes! I actually saw that a few days ago and thought to myself no wonder i'm struggling but this is if you want to live in a city or just in general?

01:44 I think in there, it was like cities such as New York City. San Francisco, you know the major hubs but I think this speaks to last show while families, this article spoke about a family of four. Two working parents making you know combined salary of $350,000 dollars. They at the end if you lived up to and it goes to the thing that we talked about having a house in the cars and picket fence trips Disneyland. It's what we all want

02:22 Right, if you live that today at the end of the month I believe you will have a hundred and twenty one dollars cash flow. Oh man my vape budget is more than that. After you pay for everything so... Now who did this? Who put this study together who was the genius This was published on CNBC and the numbers are according to the US Census Bureau. And this was on, let's see... The website was... Well you sent me a link from MSN but I think maybe the original... Yeah, excuse me. Yes

03:01 So it was written by Sean Langlois, Lang-Lois? Lang-Lois or something like that. Yeah. Lang-Lois might be French here. Uh so as we see more money more problems and that kind of explains puts a button on what we talked about last show. But as we see moving forward into this show we're going to talk about how money can, more money can cause more problems. So how's that gray Twitter feline going for you? I want to test it out. To be very honest we were away this weekend we were in Las Vegas went to see Bruno Mars so I really haven't been looking too much at the gray Twitter but i'm keeping up Mo you know me i'm keeping up

03:51 Okay, so for those out there that don't have the privilege of having a gray or black Twitter timeline. There was a beef Black Lives Matter beef to be more specific between one Sean King and one D. Ray McKesson Yes yes yes yes yes very long medium article that was written about this Yes, there was a long medium article written by DeRay McKesson. And just as of this morning, there was a quote unquote I hate this word clap back by Sean King with an even longer medium article. We're going to get into that but let's start off with the backgrounder. Greetings and salutations. I'm Christopher Platt reporting for your Black World News with an article from News One

04:45 Sean King and D. Ray McKesson once worked closely together but had an epic falling out that played out on Twitter years ago like most social media feuds it was hard to tell who was right or wrong, but people still took sides since then they've rarely mentioned each other until now McKesson wrote a scathing and long piece on king In a piece for Medium, McKesson goes on and on about how he trusted King, believed in his work but then noticed dismissiveness and bad communication. He then implies King stole money from Justice Together where McKesson was a board member at one point and said to date it's not clear that Sean filed the appropriate taxes for justice together as there is no 990 form available for public review from the IRS website

05:36 He also slammed Sean King's fundraising report, claiming it was not independent. McKesson also alleged that King did not raise millions and that he took credit for other people's work. He takes credit for 100% of all funds raised for any fundraiser whose link he has ever posted online in an email blast or retweeted McKesson also referenced the Clarissa Brooks incident, where King demanded an apology after she reportedly said that he stole or spent money that was raised for Cyntoia Brown which King claimed he never raised money for. McKesson cites a bunch of failed projects from King

06:15 Basically, McKesson believes King is a fraud. You know you could put this on shortwave radio and it would sound really cool. So this was from the YouTube News1. And if you're asking who News1 is that is sponsored by Radio 1 which is founded by Miss Kathy Hughes. And that's gonna be important later, but let's get in... So just a little background these two came up through the Black Lives Matter Ferguson event with the shooting of Michael Brown and that's how they became into public light so from there DeRay has felt like he's been pushed to the side

07:10 while Sean King has become a shooting star. He's like the creme de la creme of wokeism. Was he one of the people who met with Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election? They had that kind of backstage meeting, if you recall? Which one? D. Ray McKesson or... Sean King I'm not sure. I know D. Ray was there but i'm not sure and for people to know, D. Ray was the bigger star starting out The blue vest, he was a really huge star. But let's go on to that second clip. King has been defending his name for weeks after Rihanna announced she would honor the Morehouse Man at an upcoming award ceremony. Social media went ham and demanded that she reconsidered in response. King released a 72 page report of quote every single penny I've ever raised in quote since Black Lives Matter began

08:07 The documents were compiled and authored in part by people like Tamika Mallory, co-chair of the Women's March and co-founder of Justice League NYC. And civil rights attorney Lee Merritt. The report focused on fundraisers that King promoted through his social media accounts and provided what King said was a full accounting of his financial relationship with Real Justice PAC and ActionPAC along with five years of his tax returns. Now hold on a second... You know, for every type of entity if it's a PAC, if it's a non-profit there are forms you got to fill out for taxes that I think have to be published publicly unless there is some other entity that was in play here. That is correct and like he said he put out a 72 page report stating how the money was spent and even heard him brought up JusticePAC, The Real Justice PACK so I did little homework

09:07 Whenever I hear PAC, I hear money. I start following the paper trail So the real justice pack is funded by Kerry Tuna and Justice Moz Moskovitz No, it's a MOSBO Masva Mazovets yes are you familiar with him? No in fact this just this is that the most names I've ever heard in this show who have no clue about So Dustin Moskowitz, I can't say it. Moskovowitz is one of the founders of Facebook and they put almost two million dollars into this real justice pack so Sean King is backed by Facebook money to the tune about 2 million dollars and I found it funny that

10:02 The money is registered under Keri Tuna, not under their- they have a nonprofit that they could've put the money under but it was like an individual donor type thing. So I thought that was funny how they kind of tried to amass them money because when you see Keri Tuna That doesn't ring a bell, but when I started digging in who she was. I found out who she's married to and then the connection with Facebook so... Okay yeah it is Dustin Moskovitz indeed. Moskovitz yes! Yeah that's it that's the guy okay got it So....that just struck me as weird. You guys have a non-profit they took the pack with

10:45 with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to spend all their money, donate all their money in their lifetime. Yeah this is the giving pledge that you will give away at least I think it's half of your fortune in your lifetime but the idea is to spend all of it? Right But as you hear in this piece from the News One, which is a product of Radio One. They're very friendly and protective of Shawn King. They really didn't get into the article of the accusation DeRay McKesson made it was more to the defense of Shawn King and that's gonna be very important to remember this fouled out away why?

11:25 We'll see later on in my presentation. But let's go to clip three. In addition, King said the authors of the fundraising report had unlimited access to his and his family's checking accounts savings accounts credit cards retirement accounts and money management software I've helped raise over 34.5 million for families charities causes and campaigns king tweeted Tuesday morning A seven-person expert review board inspected every penny, including the past five years of my tax returns. There's a 72 page report in addition to the families of Nia Wilson, Philando Castile, Terrence Crutcher and multiple other people killed in recent years vouched for King. The family of Botham Jean, the man who was killed by Dallas police officer Amber Geiger a year ago this Friday had nothing but glowing words for King

12:20 We have had the pleasure of interacting with Sean King in the months following Bolton's murder, Jean's family wrote. Sean has become more than another voice for our family he's become our friend He's advocated for the Jean family spoke up for us dried our tears and held our hands we're grateful for his support as are many other families who have met him Well what this tells me is don't mess with this guy because the dead are speaking on his behalf Also If you notice, it's one of those things where Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. You call Sean King.

13:00 He gets the money. And we're going to see, I think later in on the presentation we're gonna see he raised over like maybe $30 million dollars on behalf of families and organizations but before we move forward you know as always like to do we have to go backwards before we can go forward so Adam i'm gonna test your memory a little bit why was What was the purpose of Black Lives Matter? Who is it set aside to protect, in your opinion. In my opinion Black Lives Matter was set up particularly to bring attention to police brutality against black people Specifically black males correct because that's who the majority of the victims were Yes yeah I would not have specified it as such but yeah sure

13:58 And this has been the argument just to, I mean from my perspective. I didn't wanna put words into your mouth but the perspective when I first saw Black Lives Matter trending on social media it was kind of like they were using the plight of the black male being gunned down by police with your hands up you know? To bring attention to that but Let's listen, I found a great interview with the three creators of Black Lives Matter. Alicia Garza, Patrice Cullors and Opal Tomei. The name Patrice I recognize from a connection to Soros or something

14:50 Right, right. You always getting ahead there. I'm sorry, I'm sorry! Hey, I knew something! This is becoming a common thing with you but yeah... They had a great sit down with TED Talks which is a platform to get all that woke agenda out there and let's listen to the reason why they started Black Lives Matter Why is Black Lives Matter important for the U.S., right now, and in the world? Black Lives Matter is our call to action It's a tool to reimagine a world where black people are free to exist Free to live It's a tool for our allies to show up differently for us Whoa! That's not what I understood the movement to be

15:44 And I thank God for him because i didn't know, I wasn't free to live or exist but god bless them. Feel free! Right so Let's get into clip two of Miss Patrice Coyers. Black Lives Matter offers answers to the why, it offers a new vision for young black girls around the world that we deserve to be fought for, that we deserve to call on local governments to show up for us Wow this is not at all what what the message was

16:25 I thought it was hands up, don't shoot black men of color are being shot down in the street like animals but obviously not. And you know what? I could not foresee this coming I am being ultra facetious, but... Hold on. Let me ask you a question Was now this that you said the things from a TED talk was that at the founding or was it later? It was that the original concept and I just want to get the timeline maybe that changed This is afterwards this is uh a couple years after You know they got off the ground because

17:06 As you've heard, Black Lives Matter started out as a hashtag and then it became an organization. And then it became a vehicle for what always these liberal super woke I hate using that word repeatedly but these movements happen. It's like black people causes is the stepping stone to get into bigger fundraising and taking bigger issues on. So if you really want to get in, you start with the black people or you start with the black causes and then you're going to hear Miss Opal Tome pivot to other causes

17:56 We need this because the global reality is that black people are subject to all sorts of disparities in most of our most challenging issues of our day. I think about issues like climate change and how six out of ten worst impacted nations by climate change are actually on the continent of Africa. Wow, this is great! I wish I had had this for NOAGENDA This is fantastic Good, okay. So climate change is killing black men in the neighborhoods Yes, obviously climate only affects us specifically. But as you see it's what they call mission creep? Yeah yeah I'd say so form a mission creep you know they get in their foot in the door people like all that Black Lives Matter thing is pretty cool they got there let's tuck all these other things

18:56 end with it, you know? And then it becomes so diluted that it doesn't even address the original concern was which is an actual concern. Black men being shot in the streets. That's not poo-poo that but if the people that are receiving the funding and attention go away from drawing attention to that problem how can you expect anybody else too? Exactly And we see this over and over and over again, and that's why people become so jaded to these movements because We know how it's gonna end up. I mean as we've seen on the show Hopefully the past only repeats itself

19:44 This is just a new iteration of something that we've seen before. But let's listen to Miss Opal Tomei speak some more. We also see disasters like Hurricane Matthew, which recently wreaked havoc in many different nations but caused the most damage to Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in this hemisphere and its inhabitants are black people. And what we're seeing in Haiti is that they were actually facing a number of challenges that even preceded this hurricane, they were reeling from the earthquake, they were reeling from cholera that was brought in by UN peacekeepers and still hasn't been eradicated. This is unconscionable

20:29 And this would not happen if this nation didn't have a population that was black. And we have to be real about that." Yes, because earthquakes only target Black people. And hurricanes! Oh and hurricanes AND Haiti is... This is Black Lives Matter, Haitian Black Lives Matter. This is great! So let me ask you these couple questions and these are no agenda questions One Who kind of took charge after that earthquake happened in Haiti? Well, that would be the Clintons. Why no mention of the Clintons

21:14 and how they misappropriated billions of dollars. Haiti should be a top-notch nation with the amount of money that was infused from the earthquake. Oh, well yeah if the money was infused I mean what wound up happening is The Red Cross built about six homes and The Clintons built a hotel and they got the Bill & Hillary suite now it was it...and this has almost like mainstream acknowledgement of how poorly handled that was and you know not to mention what's the guy sweet Michael Martelli there was a whole bunch of other who is the one didn't the black eyed peas guy jump in there for for a hot minute yeah and I thought uh was it um was it him or were are you talking about watch got white club John but I'm sorry why cliff yep

22:09 Why come for a hot minute and let's not forget about mr. Rotem Hillary Clinton's brother Yes, he got the exclusive mining licenses to mine for gold right so but It was the natural disaster that was the problem. Yes, because not no earthquakes and hurricanes hate black people and they target I mean They racially profiled like racist. Hey, they're all in over there. Hey, that one looks nice Let's go blow that one down Not the government you know And I put a sole responsibility on the government of those nations because they're allowed to

22:51 Misuse the funds that are given to assist their people, but this goes to show you the problem They don't want to step on any toes of The mega donors and the donating cloud donor class because this is where they get their daily bread from it's Fundraising 101 right there in the book Right, yeah. You don't step on the toes of the donors but moving forward Miss Alicia Garza let's hear her take on Black Lives Matter When you deal with what is happening in black communities it creates an effervescence right? So a bubble up rather than a trickle down Let me give an example

23:34 When we talk about the wage gap, we often say women make 78 cents to every dollar that a man makes. You all have heard that before? But those are the statistics for white women and white men The reality is that black women make something like 64 cents to every 78 cents that white women make When we talk about Latinas, it goes down to about 58 cents. If we were to talk about indigenous women if we were to talk about trans women it would even go farther down so again if you deal with those who are the most impacted everybody has an opportunity to benefit from that

24:12 Okay, well this you know I have a trouble problem with these statistics in general. I don't know if that's where you want to go but We're not gonna go down there I agree with your I already know we were gonna come from and yeah those numbers are a Miss miss twist of the calculations the point I want to make is out of all three founders out of all the clips that we heard We never heard the black male man brought up once. And I didn't cherry pick this, I didn't cherry pick this TED Talk's video This is literally the first question and their responses Well that shows that we've been hoodwinked Yes we have! And were told that we were hoodwinked by people on the ground

25:17 in Ferguson. There is a gentleman named Darren Seals, he was one of the local activists and he was tied to the streets in Ferguson well respected. He started out on the streets but then he went away from that till kind a positive force in the streets. But let's listen to Mr Darren Seals speak about Black Lives Matter. What it is man, it's these hashtags black lives matter and that's bull, thats bullshit man! Black lives matter, them the ones doing it. People don't even know that. Black lives matter they're the one who send these people to do derails. Black Lives Matter they sent him down here

26:10 That was started by some lesbians, man. And so now his name is D-B? D-Ray. D-E-R-A-Y. D-Ray and he's a homo Well a lot going on in this clip Moe.

26:48 Yes it is. And I would say in a way, it feels like we're getting a look inside the mind of dare-I-say an average black American male who are not... Yeah go ahead yeah. I'm glad you brought up that point and he received pushback for using Quote-unquote unacceptable language when he talking about the LGBT community. They labeled him as a homophobic He addressed that later on the clip, but I didn't want to make the clip too long

27:25 Not later on this clip, but other clips. He addressed that as they painted him as they paint anybody that disagrees with them as being homophobic and not to be heard. But the point he was trying to make is these people came from other places and created a situation and made the situation worse than it was. They agitated what was going on in Ferguson while reaping the benefits, and actually wasn't even boots on the ground they weren't standing on the front lines no they were uh on Twitter

28:07 Uh, they were no, uh, securing the funds that never made it to the people like himself. That were all we're on the ground and one thing you brought up is I'm inside the mind of a black man. Um, i'm going to say this black people and I've said this before black people are some of the most socially conservative groups there is So when you try to push these new ideas and ideologies on us that go counter to what we believe, you get pushed back. Now he is not the most articulate person... Well let me jump in I mean just from my perspective the general feeling i get and I don't like to generalize but we're doing it is that black men have an aversion against

29:07 gay men and certainly transgendered black men. Okay, let's take a... Now that's just an observation it's generalizing you know and tell me where I'm at? I'm gonna speak from personal. I have nothing against LGBT The problem I have is the over representation in the media of black men being gay. Got it. Where 13% of the population is black, half of that makes us what 6.5% of the population correct? Yep But when you turn on a television

29:50 there's a number of black men. There's Don Lemon! Right, the number of black men represented in the media represented and movies represented and just overall what's portrayed on you know uh the television screens movie screens even memes when you look at memes black men are represented as Overall, a large portion of them are represented as homosexual. Also just and I didn't want to go here but it's going to be very important to this conversation we're having

30:30 There was recently a guy named Malik Yober, I don't know if you're familiar with him or not. But he was on a popular television show New York Undercover it was in the 1990's on Fox He has come out and been hugely pro trans. He is trying to say that if you date trans women...I think men who are women are trans women I believe Yes They're pushing now that you shouldn't, if you don't want to date a trans woman You're transphobic and homophobic. Yeah well and then that's colorless I mean that's across the board If you say I'd never dated a trans woman your transphobic right off That's this is the Dave Chappelle trap

31:23 This is the Deschapelle trap and it's amazing how these two things were going on at the same time in the news. You had Deschappelle's comedy special, and then you had Malik Yobba coming out being a advocate for this. And of course they went to The Breakfast Club. I don't want to go down that rat hole but I just want to show you in the mind of average black males like your either portraying us as hyper sexual violent or hyper feminine emasculated There's no normalcy. We don't get any normalcy how we're represented in the media, and I think that's what you're hearing now from Mr. Darren Seals but just to get back on track let's hear Darren Seals speak out about Black Lives Matter. So while they tweeting they playing cat and mouse with the white folks You know they racist They hiding behind fake pages on Twitter talking shit going back and forth retweets retweet It's like a big ass show

32:21 You know, so you got a lot of people sending them money turning them into stars Oprah tweeting that uh and all day they calling her fucking the face of Ferguson I don't nobody know what the fuck she is. She aint the face of shit wasn't even out there when she came out there She just sat down tweeted but you do for space to Twitter. That's what I call him Anyways, man. A lot of people don't understand Black Lives Matter as an organization they think it's just a hashtag and people just saying... Man! Anytime white folks are part of it they put in the media something behind it believe that Huh! Okay So he saw what was going on He saw the money coming in but wasn't reaching You know you see these GoFundMes go up

33:13 You see these people that are receiving all this media attention on social media, but you're not seeing them on the front lines. Question? So the Black Lives Money funding money that comes in what do the Boots on... What did they expect that they would be giving them money to survive while protesting material signs I mean what was the money necessary for Okay, Bella one bailing people out of jail. Yes. Okay got it two I mean It's kind of like when when you're now you gotta look at like when you're at war and an activist analogy But you gotta have resources to the troops mm-hmm The bill right that the top I get it a lot of a lot of money raised for protesters is for for bail bail funds

34:06 Okay, let me draw this analogy to you. So say you always bringing up the homeless issue in Austin right? I'm from Northern Virginia DMV DC area. I'll be like man that's terrible what was going on in Austin! I come out there and set up shop saying all Austin, Austin but then I secure funds and take them back to DMV. Oh yeah no in Austin mm-hmm that would be seen as like disingenuous um But he made a good he made a point there isn't it's not a good point but what

34:51 Black people have noticed, and I'm just speaking in generalities that whenever you see these groups show up. And you see they're headed by or funded by certain demographics being white liberals in this case it really irks you especially when we saw how he understood how was going to end what we saw in the previous clips of how they were speaking about what Black Lives Matter had evolved to, not what they were raising money off of. But Mr Darren Seals he was causing too many problems. Don't upset the apple cart!

35:45 Right when you come out there and you start and he has started getting attention I'll be from smaller platforms. That's why I had to get that red really digged to get these clips because They were really For lack of better word blackballing him in the media until a certain event happened Darren Seals was known locally as a rapper. Nationally, for his activism during the Ferguson protests, Seals was found shot inside a burning car in Riverview on Diamond Drive. Police initially thought they were responding to a car on fire but once they put out the flames they discovered Seal's body inside with a gunshot wound

36:28 The community cares about me. Benjamin Granda is with the St Louis County Police Department he's hoping SEALs status will encourage people to come forward with information I do know that there is a lot of sentiment in the community that They want justice, they want the truth and we hope to give that to them. We can't do it alone so were hoping that friends family members acquaintances or just any members of the community can come forward and help us out with this with any information they may have Yeah you know I vaguely remember this And we might have even talked about it on NOAHgenda, where you're like well if you're in the car and the cars burning and you got a bullet hole in ya, you gotta know that's not suicide. Not suicide! And not some random beef. The guy was beloved in his neighborhood by the people that actually lived there

37:23 It reminds me of the, and God his name just slipped my mind just that quick. The guy was shot in DC with the Democratic he was a Democratic party worker. Oh yes it's sad. I think its Sean? Was his name Sean? It wasn't Sean This is horrible that we don't know this. Consult the book of knowledge! Seth Rich, I knew i was gonna get there. And just the fact that we forget shows you even more trouble. Yeah, that's tragic isn't it? Because we remember him...I mean we all remember him but

38:16 As, I mean you just go to show that people can be erased and this is the case. I think it's good with Darren Seals He was talking too much for certain people good and We know as looking back now a lot of big money Was being pumped into black lives matter now was there? It wasn't was there any kind of investigation was there any follow-up of this murder? I searched all over the web That was the only clip I could find and there was other ones around that time just reporting to death but no follow-up And usually when there's no follow, I'll say it like this if you okay is two It's two ways. You can look at it one The police killed him or people pro police killed him because he was an activist Then you use him as a martyr

39:13 Oh, you know to gain attention right? I mean, of course it right but the fat and the same thing with self-rich if he was killed because he had information about the Russians, quote unquote Russians. Or you could use gun violence which would have been great for the Democratic Party. You know look another one of our own taking down my gun violence we need to bring attention to gun control and none of that. And to be specific Seth Rich, the belief is that he was the one who pulled the emails from the Democratic National Committee server

39:54 Gave those two wiki leaks. That's true, but what I'm saying is if you say it's a random Street crime which is the official story yeah right? Why didn't the Democrats use this as a one of our own Taken by gun violence well. You know it was like it was a 22 caliber It's not a scary AR-15 But I understand what you're saying Right and it's the same thing if you look at it through the same lens here If it was an anti Black Lives Matter pro-cop murder. We need to use this guy as a martyr, but when it goes silent... Then you know something's up. Okay. All right I like the analogy totally get it so that's how I saw that but we got to understand okay if he was silenced why would he be silenced and my theory is the money that was being pumped into black lives matter and who was doing

40:53 So, who's funding Black Lives Matter? One of the big donors seems to be George Soros our old pal who gives big money to affiliates of Black Lives Matter. Groups that do direct business with them also giving money directly to the group entertainers Jay-Z and Beyonce there they are Joining us now from Washington, Kelly Riddell an investigative reporter for the Washington Times. Is this just a fringe group or should we take them seriously? Well I mean you gotta look at Black Lives Matter is really an umbrella slogan kind of group that encompasses a lot of social justice workers

41:32 on a lot of social justice organizations and um... it's it was that is a group that was started by three women that work at soros back to organizations that are into community organizing i'm into kind of riling up activists Yes, okay. It's all coming back now Yep And I remember-I don't know which one of the women had a two million dollar nonprofit that definitely was funded by Open Society Institute i.e George Soros? I don't know about all of them though That was Alicia Garza Okay Yeah and that's the one you guys covered on The Know Agenda that she was receiving some money from some Chinese organization

42:16 I think we're saying you did some research on that as well, but let's say it. I digress on that point But if we want to go the theory that he was silenced big money will get you silence very quickly this is a very black lives matter and that's why I'm harping on this and just Go we'd going backwards to go far forward Y D Ray McKesson and Sean King are having this long standing beef. D Ray was in the position of power, he had the blue vest he was on The Tonight Show's and lo and behold Sean King came in and replaced him at some point now D rays on outside looking in the women a black live matter have moved onto bigger and better causes to fight

43:14 And he's left with only Twitter fame. No, that's not my words. Let me go to like I said there was an article that came out this morning from Sean King and this was his reply let me find it so in the beginning of his article He mentions how He says, I am not a Twitter account. When i look in the mirror in the morning, I don't see at Sean King or a social media personality. I'm a husband to the brilliant black woman I first met and fell in love with 1996 and that was him saying that because yeah you picked up on that um oh yeah yes at mo facts I hear ya right so but

44:14 He goes on to say, let me see. D-Ray has been basically okay here's a quote. D-Ray is now mainly famous for being famous more than he is famous for actually doing real work that helps real people and because his fame is mostly exclusively centered on Twitter. Got it So he said we branched out We become real entities in the movement and poor D-Ray is just, you know he's a Twitter celebrity. And that's... That's the fundamental beef right there

45:00 That's the fundamental beef right there. So I know you guys are saying and everybody is saying, well Moe you're coming with Fox News facts about Soros and Black Lives Matter. No, I actually looked it up. I remember looking at the form 990 of what of Garza's non-profit and there it was, Open Society Institute. That's not Fox News that's IRS filings. Well as I always like to do...I like to bring balance and we're gonna list Mr Dave Pacman who is super progressive he's a Bernie bro

45:40 And he's gonna also make the claim that Black Lives Matter is Soros-funded. And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore seriously which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the Black Lives Matter movement recently could be George Soros funded AstroTurf and I will speak as specifically as possible Lewis and then I will allow you Lewis to tell me what you think about this uh... it's widely on record that george soros the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into two movements that were instrumental in creating black lives matter and the buzzword dating back to january we knew that george soros spent over thirty million dollars bankrolling ferguson demonstrators and of course for disin relates to officer darren wilson who killed unarmed teenager michael brown and was ultimately not charged this includes

46:36 support by George Soros of groups like Color Lines News for Action, Organization for Black Struggle which established itself then established the Hands Up Coalition. Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance which worked on pushing Black Lives Matter as a buzzword which has since been incorporated into speeches by political figures including Hillary Clinton Now tell me again about this Dave Pakman? Dave pac-man he's a has almost 700,000 followers on YouTube He's progressive easy white guy White guy my god. No you asked me a question last show about is black woke and white woke The same yeah oh And this is where you can see where they can part ways because

47:33 They have different agendas and if they don't line up, they will attack each other. So this is a perfect example of that now I guess other people may say well Moe That's just two white guys saying that black guys matter Right so um Let's go to Mr. Lord Jamal, of brand newbie in fame, rapper from the 1990s. Can't get much blacker than that! That's as black as it comes

48:10 And let's listen to him speak on Black Lives Matter being supported by Soros. I don't know, I just thought that was weird shit and i'm not no black lives matter supporter like you're not no absolutely why not because it's not our movement this is a movement that was given to us by You know George Soros and his fucking boys um Because they saw how things were going and they didn't want it to go back to the 60s, To where we start having our own organic movements. That was a big fucking problem for them So let's give the people of movement that we can control We'll provide them the leaders and all this type of shit

48:55 Yeah, that's what black lives matter is look at the leaders of Black Lives Matter are their leaders? Who could these lesbian women who are trying to incorporate you know LG whatever the fuck the letters are Incorporate those their concerns into black people's concerns go to the website. Look it up well first let's help Lord Jamar its LGBTQ QIA a PK And what strikes me about this clip, what he said in the beginning is he sees this situation which I agree with pretty much as the dinner scene from the movie Trick Baby. Mm-hmm mm-hmm Which has come back to be a current theme of the show Now you're seeing it's all about control opposition We have to control

49:53 the masses. And how do we do that? We put the leadership in front of them, whether it's homegrown, there is two ways it can happen. They can grow their leadership from the ground up which I think this where conservatives and liberals deviate in mindset. A lot of your conservative talking heads are grown from the ground What liberals do is they say, who's hot in the streets right now? And they said okay Black Lives Matter that's the move. Okay this is what we're gonna do. What's your number and then they come in they co-opt them They give him money you know like I said D Ray McKesson went from on Twitter...I remember seeing this guy pop up and I'm like who is this

50:49 I do this and what I mean by, do this. I'll see our watch and not see who are they putting up as movers and shakers? And when new people start to pop up, I did the same thing with Obama. Who is this guy? I never saw him in a jet. I never saw him in Ebony. You know, and then you just pop up out of nowhere. Same thing with D Ray McKesson. Who was this guy I never seen you on black YouTube. I never see, you know cause it's a circuit You know Even you can go back because a lot of times this stuff was captured on VHS And then it was later loaded up onto YouTube even pre-youtube so need a lot of these people have Past history got history in right? So when you start digging like I don't find anything on this guy D Ray I Don't find anything on this guy Sean King

51:39 I don't find anything on these three ladies from Black Lives Matter. They didn't come up through the, one of the big circuits was the black bookstore circuit that was kind like the chick-lin circuit for black speakers and thinkers. Every town that had a large or semi-large black population, had a black bookstore where they would sell literature. And like on Saturdays, give me also inside baseball here folks. On Saturday often I personally pushing the book will come to speak at these of bookstores

52:24 And that's where the VHS tapes will pop up at. You don't have that now because they can go straight to the people via YouTube or social media, but that's what I'm saying you have a legacy built up of saying okay this guy is an agent or he ain't an agent because you had to make your name and state your claim in those bookstores these guys don't have any of So when I started to go do my homework on this, as Lord Jamar did. He's like man who the hell is he people? And I want to be clear for certain people out there they might hear this tinge of black male versus the LGBT community The problem with that and i want to make this very clear

53:15 They co-opted us in so many ways, and when I say us the struggles of black people specifically black men to say oh yeah we're just like black people. Black people don't have a closet! We don't have a closet that we can live in you understand what I'm saying? So it's very insulting now on the other hand You shouldn't be disrespectful to anybody's life choices. I believe that, you know what i'm saying? To each his own whatever you're into so we have to be respectful but when somebody comes in and co-ops

53:52 You know, the civil rights movement, they co-opted that. Black Lives Matter, they co-opted that. We know Black Lives Matter was created solely for that. I'll give you another example... The Tea Party which has nothing to do with black or white although there were probably white people which was started by Ron Paul and and this is 2008, and that got co-opted massively. And there's still a tea party... To the bunny ranch! Yeah, there's still a tea party that has nothing to do with the original libertarian idea behind it so yeah political movements get co-opted all the time

53:15 They co-opted us in so many ways, and when I say us the struggles of black people specifically black men to say oh yeah we're just like black people. Black people don't have a closet! We don't have a closet that we can live in you understand what I'm saying? So it's very insulting now on the other hand You shouldn't be disrespectful to anybody's life choices. I believe that, you know what i'm saying? To each his own whatever you're into so we have to be respectful but when somebody comes in and co-ops

53:52 You know, the civil rights movement, they co-opted that. Black Lives Matter, they co-opted that. We know Black Lives Matter was created solely for that. I'll give you another example... The Tea Party which has nothing to do with black or white although there were probably white people which was started by Ron Paul and and this is 2008, and that got co-opted massively. And there's still a tea party... To the bunny ranch! Yeah, there's still a tea party that has nothing to do with the original libertarian idea behind it so yeah political movements get co-opted all the time

54:30 Yeah, but the problem is it's the same people co-opting our movements over and over and over again. And I'm not just talking about the 1990s. I'm going all way back to the Harlem Renaissance of the 1920s That was fun, and I may have to do a later show on this. You already got me with the black bookstores which of course i didn't know about now I need to know about this movement in the 20's that can be a separate show but I'm already intrigued Just as a teaser The guy listed as the father of the Harlem Renaissance

55:12 was hugely pro-LGBT in that time. And I'll just leave it at that. So back to Larr Jamar, let's listen to him continue on about Black Lives Matter. You see what he saying? Why is he... There is leaders! This what I'm telling you They're lesbians! They're black lesbians Key people are Sean King Who's that? He is a writer for New York Daily News. I'm not talking about key people, go to the fucking website! Who runs this shit?! Is there any website? Yeah! Right because when i looked up Black Live BLM leader the key people... There's no leader that's listed but the key people are listed is Sean King, DeRay McKeeson and Johnnetta Elzey

56:11 So as you seen there, Lord Jamar said when he says Shawn King who's that? If he doesn't know you I mean you have no credentials. Because his knowledge will be even more extensive than mine by far and to who the movers and shakers in pro-black society. And he was like who is that but as we see fast forward Just going back to the article that Sean King wrote to D. Ray McKesson, so here's why these things happen in the time that they happened let me just explain it to you

57:04 Okay, Sean King was being recognized by Rihanna. Ah okay this is once you get into that then you're up and up and into the new circles right so They were having a bar she has let's see it says okay going back to the article D Ray chose to release their public attack against me hours before the diamond ball and was vindictive, short-sighted and destructive. So the diamond ball was a ball being held about the Clara Lionel Foundation which is Rihanna's foundation.

57:52 So then he goes on to say, he says but because the race poorly time and I don't agree with that. I think it was excellent, excellently timed op-ed on the red carpet reporters berated guests about me and my presence. And instead of Rihanna and The Foundation or The Diamond Ball being the top trending topic in the country it was DeRay and his attacks against me all night long so now we're seeing Shawn King is in the inner circle, not only on black topics but with celebrities. You're getting honored by Rihanna and you're getting invited to these balls and not only that but he's getting support by the one and only Cardi B

58:44 Another main reason why it's so important for me to be here is because Rihanna is honoring Sean King. A lot of people need to follow Sean King on Instagram, he protests so much for all minorities, he protested so much for the whole entire world and he's doing this thing right now that's called Vote For Senate. It's very important for people to vote for senate and everything so we could dethrone things you know what I'm saying? Because the Democrats are Democrats already got the house. We already got the house! We already, we already got the house! I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go. That's my black card right there. You caught me off guard.

59:31 I practice for hours. Oh, all right so... Well hold on a second. Did you catch? Cardi B is dumb alright she's just dumb! I've seen Cardi B and I hear what she says She's an entertainer, she's funny to watch, she's got the hook, she's got all that You know she's very entertaining to watch but i don't think she's smart Wait a minute, M Curry You wait a minute, sir. Oh here we go according to Mr. D-Ray's article me on Mr. Sean King's article he says quote Furthermore, a sexist dismissive assumption is being made about both Rihanna and Cardi B in their public and private support of me. The assumption is that D-Ray knows better than they do." And so does Adam Curry. I stand by my points here!

58:44 Another main reason why it's so important for me to be here is because Rihanna is honoring Sean King. A lot of people need to follow Sean King on Instagram, he protests so much for all minorities, he protested so much for the whole entire world and he's doing this thing right now that's called Vote For Senate. It's very important for people to vote for senate and everything so we could dethrone things you know what I'm saying? Because the Democrats are Democrats already got the house. We already got the house! We already, we already got the house! I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go. That's my black card right there. You caught me off guard.

59:31 I practice for hours. Oh, all right so... Well hold on a second. Did you catch? Cardi B is dumb alright she's just dumb! I've seen Cardi B and I hear what she says She's an entertainer, she's funny to watch, she's got the hook, she's got all that You know she's very entertaining to watch but i don't think she's smart Wait a minute, M Curry You wait a minute, sir. Oh here we go according to Mr. D-Ray's article me on Mr. Sean King's article he says quote Furthermore, a sexist dismissive assumption is being made about both Rihanna and Cardi B in their public and private support of me. The assumption is that D-Ray knows better than they do." And so does Adam Curry. I stand by my points here!

1:00:29 Alright, he says the inference is that Rihanna and Cardi B were only better informed if they are- If they were only a little smarter And only a little more woke like him. If they only knew what Twitter knows They wouldn't fuck with me quote unquote By the way I don't think Rihanna's dumb. I think she's actually very smart You fell right into the trap though. Of course I did! Well, I'm living up to my dumb white guy image okay? I'm sorry... No! Alright so

1:01:04 To get to that level, you can see why D-Ray is serious. Yeah he's pissed yeah I'm gonna say this again him being of the LGBT community He's like this guy Sean King hanging with Rihanna and Cardi B? And i'm sitting there ohm That has to irk him um but it's Man, but so now we're seeing why we're here. I went all the way around the block to get us to the point of The Beef. Now we understand The Beef. Now there has been some issues even Sean King himself saying there's been issues with his fundraising abilities. So let's listen to fundraising fraud claims one. One of the critiques of you is that you're good at creating stuff

1:02:01 good at building stuff, and good at fundraising for stuff. But then somewhere between the conceptualization and execution is a gap." Oh that's true! That is probably the best criticism of me that somebody could offer like I'm...I'm a natural starter I've been fundraising my entire life and so, I know how to pitch an idea. But I have struggled up until the past two or three years to figure out how to start something grow it and maintain it And the organization that we started Real Justice is probably the best thing I've ever been a part of. Real justice?

1:02:39 So that's the real justice pack, the one we spoke about before. So if you listen to him say okay so now Adam you work with venture capitalists so let's look at this in a light of a venture capitalist I believe so. Is that a correct statement? Well, you mean like Soros is more hedge fund than venture capitalist What what I mean is say somebody how okay this is my understanding how adventure capitalists work Say I have the MoFax app and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread right yeah Okay, I'll be the venture capitalist. I've worked with a lot of them Right and I want you to fund me in this I tell ya okay This is how its gonna work Adam

1:03:17 You know, it's gonna be the best thing you know ever and all I need you to do is throw your money in you're saying behind the project and we're gonna Be you're saying. We're gonna change the world great great So what is my return on my investment right so but you give me the money? Okay, so you say okay All right. All right. I believe ya. I'm giving you the money Right you believe me the money and then I come back Do you say you know what? the

1:04:06 How would that work out? And I know maybe comparing apples to oranges a little bit, but when you say you have an idea or something is going to change the world and people invest in you they expect some kind of... Like you just asked what's the return on my investment. Now it might not be money but you want to see results right? Well we call this executing. Executing okay Now if I come back to you say, well you know Adam my problem is really executing. Yeah right. Was that an acceptable excuse? No that is not acceptable in fact the only reason to come back for more money with a venture capitalist is because I can make even more money if we keep pumping more into it we can build more scale but saying uh I'm sorry I couldn't execute I need some more money is probably the worst thing you could say

1:04:57 But that's what he just said. So it's clear this is on BET, let me be clear this is from BET. This is from BET and he got no pushback nobody said well you know a difference between like a dream and ideas idea you can actually materialize it execution right execute but not he is acceptable excuse that he can't execute And nobody gives him pushback and I think that's what DeRay is saying. In his article, he was like dude you got so much money but we haven't seen anything change. We haven't seen any fruits of this money or supposed hard work all right? So that's one thing he brought up in this interview with BET let's go to fundraising fraud too. But the truth is

1:05:57 Because I am who I am because I look how I look there are doors that are open to me That sometimes shouldn't like there are privileges and platforms that I get There is this degree of even like light-skinned privilege and accessibility Like because I look how I look that makes me more more relatable to white people in white spaces. So what I have to do, if i have some level of relatability that I didn't choose, I was born with it... I have to use it! I have to squeeze it and I have to maximize it.

1:06:37 Mr. Sean King, the one always preaching about privilege this and privilege that... He likes to use his privileges. ...is the recipient of light-skinned privilege! And now this is a real category? This light skinned privilege? It's called colorism It's called colorism. Now it is heavy in the black community, it is a real thing but it's not exclusive to the black community. The reason why I say that is the Indian caste system is based off of colorism when you go to Brazil its colorism so what it is is the lighter your skin is the more accessible or acceptable you are to white society

1:07:28 Now let me make the point out, D. Ray McKesson is dark skinned! Yeah... Well I was just sitting here reflecting and trying to think how would i feel different getting a pitch from light-skinned or dark skinned? And it's just that I was contemplating it but I'm sure it exists, I'm sure its real. I can't speak to how it is perceived from the white side But some people in the black community, I'm not gonna say all. I'll never say all or anything believe that light skinned people have an easier life now where that hits me is I have two children and a brown skin and I have to choose to children are lightskin. I don't think you know,

1:08:29 One gets privileged more than the other But I think this thought is tall at an early age, and I think two things are being conflated here well MTV lights okay? I'm sorry just to interrupt you MTV did a MTV decoded video where they say colorism is not racism. Do you remember that clip oh Vaguely. This episode's not about racism. I'm talking about colorism! First, let's be clear about what the word colorism actually means. Colorism is NOT synonymous with racism... it's a form of discrimination based on skin color. And before you're like wait isn't that like the literal definition of racism? Hold onto your social constructs because we're gonna knock a few down

1:09:28 And today, we've got a special guest to help us with this demolition project. Hey Lee! Let's break this one down. Claro que si As a Latino of color, colorism is something I'm all too familiar with. Racism involves discrimination based on things such as skin color but it also depends on power dynamics that become perpetuated by years of structural oppression Black and Latino men getting longer sentences for the same crime as white men? Racism Black and Latino aunts telling you to date light-skinned men. Colorism! Because we often complain race with skin color, sometimes distinguishing between colorism and racism can get tricky. Colorism... It sucks This is one way racism and colorism are different Systems of oppression favor white people meaning black people can't technically be racist towards other black people but clearly in this case they can and do perpetuate colorism in their own communities The discrimination is coming from inside the house

1:10:16 Example number three, language. There's a pretty common phrase people in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic grow up with, cafre. Among Spanish speakers in the Caribbean the word means someone low class or brutish and is said by people of all colors and racial backgrounds The word implies you're acting darker in both complexion and behavior but the word itself carries a linguistic and cultural connection to blackness It shares roots with the South African racial slur cat fear Wow there's a lot in there There's a lot in there We're conflating two things. Yeah, we have to understand where that thought process comes from Okay So too okay so if you have a group of dark-skinned people the way you get light skin had to be through interracial relations sex mm-hmm so that means that you have a parent or lineage from white people so That's where that thought process comes from of lighter skin

1:11:18 And it's a real thing because going back in slavery, the master kids that were his kids by a slave would often be given their freedom. And so they created this subclass in black society where they were not quite white but they were above black people. And that's where it comes from. And just a long story short, but you have the brown paper bag test, you had the pencil tests. Well yeah I'm serious we're in the late 1800s early 1900s You couldn't come to certain meetings or marry into certain families if you were darker than a brown paper bag

1:12:12 Wow. This is true and Spitely's movie school days covered this even sororities and fraternities were the same way that's why if you go back and look at certain pictures from That divine nine Greek fraternity I was telling you about at a certain time point You will only see fair-skinned people in these organizations with certain hair textures They would they wouldn't marry white So say if you were light skinned, you wouldn't marry white but you would only marry light-skinned. I interrupted you, you were going to tell a personal story about your kids and then I think I interrupted you. I'd love to hear what you're gonna say Oh well like I said it's...I don't think people

1:12:57 Nowadays, feed into colorism as much because like I said, I have brown skin children and light skin children. And I treat them equally. I make them equally responsible but like I say what we're dealing with is from the past these are very old mindsets but as you know any privilege people want to point it out when it doesn't benefit them. And its amazing that he openly said, oh yeah I benefit from light skin privilege but going back to the TED talks from the Black Lives Matter clips that we heard before there was one clip that Ms Alicia Garza said that I found interesting

1:13:42 The reality is that race in the United States operates on a spectrum from black to white. Doesn't mean that people who are in between don't experience racism, but it means that the closer you are to white on that spectrum, the better off you are and the closer to black that you are on that spectrum, the worse off you are." Hmm yeah so even she acknowledges it. So going back today I'm not pro D-Ray I think he's honestly, this is the snake eating his tail. You know what i'm saying? In this situation. So im just standing back looking like but you knew this was

1:14:23 I could have told you this was gonna happen. I could have told you DeRay was going to play the, he was gonna play the colorist card which he hasn't yet but i mean it will be played. But that's really reviving some old shit that has no place in society-in black society anymore but yet it's being used Well yeah! That's a great point It...but that goes and show you that any privilege can be used, even though it may not be functional. I will say this and I want to challenge you to do something is not only in our minds the mass media has something to do with this. And reason why I say this is watch television on a commercial You would never see a man with a woman darker than him except Barack Obama

1:15:28 Well, that's why he got so many credentials in the black community and he understood that. And he understood it. He said I have to go get you know most sisters I can find and bathed in that. Kamala Harris colorism has a issue she had the colorism problem She is darker than Cory Booker But she's lighter than Stacey Abrams Bingo And Joy Reid should get off TV. But that's why Joy Reid gets away with murder! Yeah, yeah? That's why Joy Reid gets away with murder if Joy Reid was a... Okay say Joy Reid compared to a um what's the lady name that is always on CNN? Uh, always uh... Ana Cabrera? No. Um no she's very skinny Oh oh Ray uh

1:16:29 Right, right. Angela Rye. Why do I know all these black people Moe? Come on! Because it's the great Twitter man. If Angela Ry was to say some of the things that a darker skinned woman has said and you just said her name God I'm off today but Joy, joy read was the dark-skinned lady for MSNBC. Joy read or read if joy read Joy read words would have come out of Angela Rosemount she would be cancelled let's beat that speak clear on this But when you're dealing with white society Sean King says to get into make people feel more comfortable and we talk about liberals here Let's be we're not talking about conservatives

1:17:23 We're talking about liberal, the most liberal thinking people. He even acknowledged that his light skin makes people feel more comfortable so that makes you wonder okay there where his light skin has become an issue. Clip Twinney So I asked him about it because there are all these claims about him, whether he's black white biracial or whether he was there a civil hate crime that happened to him back in 1995. And i said to him last night what would you like to convey and he said number one this attack isn't about me so much but about derailing Black Lives Matter and the movement against police brutality. He said number two the reports are all lies. I tried hard to debunk them as others have said

1:18:25 And others have said that they are lies as well. And then he said, I will speak soon and I asked him specifically, I said you know are you legally black or illegally white? Or are you biracial? Are you black or white? He says I am biracial and I said is that what it is on your birth certificate? He did not answer. Hmm...I'm gonna say this and I am NOT a birther! I need to see that birth certificate. I needed to see it! Yeah. He Sean King People go look at him. He never struck me to be a black He never once struck me to be a black as we pointed out on this show When you're good for the movement, they give you a pass right? The reason why I say that is We recall miss Rachel dollars are

1:19:26 Oh, my favorite. Well Martha I'll be honest with you until a few days ago i thought he was a white dude. I had no idea that he was pretending or telling people that he was black and I know some people out there are asking that very question that you just said right now well why does this matter? It matters because for the past year we have heard this phrase white privilege thrown around thrown in people's faces it's been used as a way to divide. I mean this isn't, Sean King by the way isn't the first Rachel Dozal Elizabeth Warren was the first one Rachel Dozel was the second Rachel Dozel and now he is the third and it just seems incredibly ironic. He was born in Kentucky mm-hmm And I just brought up a picture take a look at it I mean he could be Latino for all I know even then you'd be very very light skinned Very light skinned

1:20:23 Like I said, he's never struck me to be a...I mean when i saw him. I didn't say that oh that's a black guy um.. I'd like to see him with his hair longer then I'd get a better idea we have to do the hair test and he did the chameleon thing He embraced the black hairstyle, the mustache. You know same way Rachel Dolezal which was a 100% complete white woman with a mustache if people don't remember when she put the braids in yeah the skin toner tanner or however you want to call it. She said she identified as black and she ran a local chapter of the NAACP it was fantastic! A great story

1:21:13 But the so why do we counsel her and Sean King gets a pass because she Her parents came out and said she's white. And that's what I don't know who Sean Kings parents are right, but for you to say You don't bring forth your birth certificate It's just weird but as we saw with Gandhi as we saw with Cesar Chavez, and we saw what... As long as the imagery is good for the movement will give you a pass. And this is not only exclusive to Sean King The lady brought up with Elizabeth Warren She got a pass! So she should be careful You mean the whole Pocahontas thing? Yeah, yeah absolutely Like she appropriated somebody's culture Yes

1:22:11 But she gets a pass because she's for the greater good. And this is their thought pattern, for the greater good... When you say the greater good we're talking about the greater good for the money that people who are holding the money who are going to give them money right? It's their great or good. For the movement! Right, for the greater good if we can make this story go away and it's the clip before the last one played that was Don Lemon Now that way he was supposed to press Sean King, but everybody has hands off. This is what I think everybody has the hands off on Sean King

1:22:51 Whenever you can motivate or the raising of $30 million. Yeah, you're gonna be that money's going somewhere and your boss You're not gonna you're not gonna be canceled and it's not exclusive to him because the same way Elizabeth Warren is not canceled because she's a frontrunner from the Democratic nomination She is the leading woman Candidate And she wasn't canceled. But let's listen to Sean King, Dulles Altoo. around these terms. So yeah, if you're going to kind of throw around those terms and be out in someone's face as the judge and jury of blackness or whiteness... And this comes up? There are records showing that your dad is white? Yeah it does become an issue because it shows that its ironic and your hypocrite." And if the color doesn't matter, Ann Dell then why throw all those phrases around from him?"

1:23:56 Well, I don't know what phrases you're referring to but even Jesus when asked about his brother and his mother said those people that do my father's will and obey what he says. Those are my brothers and sisters. It's about what is he doing? Who is he standing with? And as much as I like to hear Dana, I'm going to have to go with Jesus. Hey, we can't argue that! Now... now you- What you've just witnessed is a mind control technique presented by the male speaker in this clip to mind control black people. As we've listened before, who do we say was on the wall? Yeah, we got Jesus... well now or before? Before! MLK, Malcolm X and Jesus No it was Malcolm X, JFK Oh JFK and Jesus I'm sorry Yes you're right And now replaced by Oprah, Beyonce Is Jesus still there?

1:24:54 No, no. He was replaced with Serena Williams I believe it was Well you know what? She is kind of Jesus. I'll give her that Right So... But as you say That was a deliberate mind control answer to interject Jesus into the conversation to, I hate to say the word again, to mind control black people. Now Jesus said who's my brother? Who is my mother? How does that even equate and in a previous back and forth between these two people he interjected

1:25:37 MLK talking points. Yeah, okay so he said He was triggering black people 100% because he says it's not about the color of your skin but the context of your character yeah So this guy was... It was disgusting what he did there and you see they're pulling all stops out to protect Sean King But Malcolm X warned us about people like Sean King and how liberals will use them. Zero, zero. I'm suspicious of whites who join Negroes and always have to be in the lead who always have to be the head who always have to beat at the top in Negro organizations

1:26:21 Those whites who really have the interest of blacks at heart, let them give some advice to some Negroes and stand on the sidelines. But don't join the organization and then get out ahead of it and pose as a friend of Negroes." Today you could point to a large number of Negro leaders who have consistently betrayed Negroes in a whole host of areas. They aren't really Negro leaders these are puppets that have been put in front of the Negro community by white liberals These are parrots that have been put in front of the Negro community by white liberals. You can't name me a Negro leader who has betrayed Negros, who has not been endorsed sanctioned subsidized and supported by the white liberal. Yeah that sounds like Malcolm X for sure So to bring out the point what he's saying is before we could even get off the ground

1:27:16 We have to always deal with these infiltrators. And this is what the claim that D-Ray is making, not that he's a white guy or anything like that but just that this guy was misappropriating funds and stealing money you know? He's disingenuous these things it only... But see D-Ray is self serving where were you at when you were hot right And let's not forget, we saw her clips before D-Ray was accused of the same thing. Misappropriating funds stealing Sean from the people on the ground in Ferguson. So like I said this is the snake eating its tail so this is where with this story but as I did some more digging as always do I found out

1:28:16 potential smoking gun. Tom Jordan, Shawn King won. The most important thing we can do and I'm going to shape most of my work on this in 2018 the most important thing we can do is to elect progressive woke conscious reform minded prosecutors No single individual plays a bigger role in the criminal justice system in this country than the district attorney. Ah, I knew you'd get to the Soros sisters eventually Moe! Wooo! I love it that is that- You're right That is ground zero right there and that's Kamala Harris That's who's in Chicago? I mean, it's everywhere now Kim Fox Kim Fox yes in Chicago I have a list of like 10 15 names

1:29:04 And like I said, these things. These people are aligning on one agenda of that's what two agendas but one is here that illustrate wanting the flipping God the house in the Senate as you heard Cardi B say she said we yeah we got to have yes he said we know she said we all right and now you have a Sean King who was on Tom's joiner radio show Which Tom Joyner... I have high regard for Tom Joyner. I'm hoping that he pushed back on Sean King in this interview. Hell no!

1:29:49 You know why? I don't even know why. Tom Joyner is a business associate of News One. Oh, OK got it. Radio one yeah now you heard what the first clip was so important. Yeah, so protective of Sean King and I like to join her oh man but Tom Joyner he's old not in the sense I mean not saying like that but He's not trying to pick fights. He's not trying to make enemies in high places he gives Sean the top of the platform you come on, you say your spiel You know We're gonna I'm not gonna push what why this point in his career with Tom doing a push back now? You could look at on inverse that what do you have to lose right but why now it's kind of evil edge the og Charlemagne in a way right if that

1:30:47 I'm learning. Yes, yes and just to go to show you why we say why is black right now? We heard it's another common themes in this show that what we're doing here or this conversation Repeatedly it's black radio yeah black radio is so influential and black culture because It's access to free entertainment in your car, as you said at your desk. And it's kind of waning now or satellite radio with satellite radio and then people with the aux cords and Bluetooth is kind of eating into black radio but black radio at one time was the end all be all

1:31:40 Oh, for sure. And when I worked in New York Z100 which for sure Cracker White Station you know the biggest competition was BLS was KTU...I mean yeah Black Radio has always been very successful in urban markets for sure Because it's access free access. Yeah, I'm with you FM radio You can dial right in and if you need to Put a talking points out there It is free over the what the radio waves So now we see from the beginning of the first clip to the end Sean King is the it guy

1:32:26 He's the it guy. He's protected cuz I when I heard that first clip, I was like why is this guy? he's not even being fair you know um You know giving both sides of story because I read both articles and I was waiting for him to drop some of the no talking points of D-ray Mm-hmm And it wasn't there It was all well Shawn, you know dropped 72 page on um Report everything nothing to see here seven panel salmon for seven person panels being cleaned up. Nothing they see here So I'm like, why is that and then not when I looked at I was like all radio I mean news one Mm-hmm as a product of radio one And then that's why it just a little behind the scenes I was freaking out right before we were doing the show because

1:33:16 Uh, the podcast monsters didn't want me to have that clip I just played. It was trying not to get on the air but we got it yeah right we shut him down i mean because now you see he is part of the sorrel sisters apparatus Now, why? Why is that I don't know but maybe he'll shine light on Tom Joyner's part too. Our nation has 2300 of them operating in every county and in every medium to large city in America no role no bigger person has a larger impact on who goes to jail and who doesn't Who gets prosecuted and who doesn't than the district attorney

1:34:02 No single person plays a bigger role in whether or not corrupt and violent police are not only charged with crimes, but also get convicted than the DA. They are essential! And let me tell you something that's both shocking and disgusting... Over the 2300 elected DAs in the United States 95% of those elected DAs are white and 81 percent of them are white men In a nation that's on its way to becoming a country of color, 95% of district attorneys are white and they are largely conservative. It may very well be the whitest most conservative male dominated profession in America." And I'm sure that's absolutely right! So let me ask this question then... so 95 percent are white right? That means 5 percent are non-white. Of that five percent

1:34:59 Kamala Harris was one of those 5%. How did she do anything different than, you know? And she's liberal because he brought up conservative. She's a female black liberal but she locked up people use people for spacely slave labor. So what's different well I mean what do you expect different as long as EP you know i don't understand Well, when she does it at least she looks friendly which is I think that's I don't understand what we expect differently. Well Let me get let me take a stab of this because you know It it's always Oh source this source that and on the Noah Jenner show We've talked about this ultimately very rich the rich elites are

1:35:55 Want want to control chaos so they can protect their own shit That's ultimately what they want. They want to be able to control it now in this case It's more of the same except you better believe that Kamala Harris is under control I totally agree with me And as you brought up on the No Agenda show, and maybe listeners haven't heard this talking point. Now we're starting to see these more liberal DA saying well anything under $1,000 aint really a crime. Yeah you're so right So okay now if I'm a poor person living in a poor neighborhood which crime happens very high, I'm saying at high rate that thousand dollar affects me differently

1:36:47 Then if I'm, you know some one of these people that make combined income of 350k living in the same gentrified neighborhood it's like just reparations or whatever. Oh no it's completely bullcrap and California certainly Los Angeles and I think San Francisco as well have have ordinances where it's like yeah anything on I think it's at 750 or a thousand but It's like anything under that we're not even gonna show up. The cops aren't gonna show up Not gonna do anything can't deal with it. That's what a crime of necessity, I think is the term Mm-hmm Yeah Which is lawlessness really so but now? I'm going to put my um conspiracy tinfoil hat on

1:37:34 If I'm trying to get rid of poor people and prime real estate, and I can't drive them out with raising prices. What's the first vehicle to run people out in neighborhood? High crime. Crime. You got it! It's so cynical man. It's so cynical. I know but that's the only way i could look at is We've seen it with the crack era. We've seen it with other influx of crime, you know they're going to let crime happen and drives them out of prom real estate areas that have taken over by poor

1:38:21 minorities, which is just not a black thing. You know poor people in general and if we can't force them out you know... And gentrification has got to get in their black eye right now so we can't you know just gentrify them right? To make him leave! We'll crime him out yep yeah we crime them out and then you know oh well look what they did to their own communities. Yeah I'm sure the redistricting which has always done it under the guise of And we, you know like oh we got to screw the Republicans or the Republicans are trying to screw us but this would be another great way to district crime into certain it's an eye-opener for sure. Yeah well I can't wait until Kamala Harris is our president it's gonna be great! That'll never happen

1:39:09 Wow Moe, this was good man. This was good I got a couple things to look into but definitely...I wonder what the next round is gonna be of this medium fight because you know they've moved it beyond Twitter personally i think that People will tune out pretty soon if they're, you know... If they want to get in depth they have to read 70 pages of financial reporting. That's not how you change public opinion that's not how things change typically unless there is illegality that can be proven but I haven't seen that yet from this back and forth Well, the 72 page report works perfectly because it's like I dropped a 72 page report. It's all there right shut up But you but you bury whatever is there cuz people like that gonna boss over by page one or two Yeah And just another example of these medium articles are great for Screenshotting and then posting on Twitter That's how that's how that thing works You post it there do you highlight something you sneak he screenshot it and you post it back on Twitter? Yeah, you're right So you're right Wow

1:40:14 Well Mo, thank you very much for yet again an hour and a half of just fantastic stuff. I'm glad you enjoyed it and i hope all the listeners enjoy it as well and they find value in it So yeah, and you've burst my bubble here when it comes to Tom Joyner. I'm a radio guy You know Tom Joyner is famous for doing two stations in one day flying back and forth I mean he's a fantastic radio guy but now that I hear that he's all-in that's disappointing so he's off the Christmas list

1:40:52 All right Mo, thank you very much. Actually I should back this up for a second...I need to remind everybody that you need to go to mofax.com to find out everything that's happening with the show, but most importantly to donate. You can hear the amount of time that is put into this program What do you value that at? What do you spend your time on otherwise if you spend an hour and a half somewhere for entertainment or some education That's the kind of value I think you should place on the work that's being done here And then I certainly really appreciate it. I learn every day The gray is getting darker

1:41:32 And we're not funded by anybody. Let's just put that out there Oh, yeah, so you got to be funny but we ought to be funny about you guys That's right. This is mo facts with Adam Curry episode number 7 Mo facts calm Thanks again, Mo All right Thank You Adam as I always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself See you next week everybody You really don't understand dude. Hey man, what you realize not of us to make this thing work man We've got to get rid of them pimps and the pushes in the prostitutes and then start all over again clean Nobody's pushing me anyway okay? I mean that you nothing cops nobody

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1:43:08 Brother's gonna work it out. Brother's gonna work it out. Our brothers say, stop the pimps to hustle up to push a man as fast as you can open your ears and eyes to the facts of what truly holding. Brother needs your help now can't ya see he's got to have it

1:44:05 All right! Your brother's gonna work it on. All the answers to your problems, you can't find. Yet if you stay locked behind these feet, yet the key is in your mind. And I don't know where your brother's truck feeds my nation but he'll stop you robbing, stealing, killing or cheating ain't like me. But brothers gon' work it out. Oh brothers gonna work it out

1:44:57 Brother's gonna work it out.