A theory is presented suggesting Stacey Abrams serves as a political proxy for Oprah Winfrey, who allegedly seeks to influence the White House. The hosts discuss the possibility of the 25th Amendment being used to replace Joe Biden shortly after an election, potentially making his VP the president. Comparisons are drawn between Abrams and Kamala Harris, with the former being framed as the "celebrity pick" backed by Winfrey's influence.