87: Ye & They

00:00 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for October 29th, 2022. Episode number 87! Hey it's been a hot minute everybody how you doing? Why don't we find out what's going on I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country time once again to spin that wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. Mo Facts How you doing Adam? Well, I'm glad to know that you're alive. He lives! I live on Yeah brother what's been going on it's everyone's kind of wondering and you know You and I have spoken a couple times And you want just bring everybody up speed so as everybody knows I've Went into my own endeavor owned business Of doing business for myself So that takes away from the time

01:04 We'll get to it a little later, but this next topic never ended. So that added to the complexity but then me and you also have some conversation about maybe tweaking the format of it a little bit so we can get back on a regular schedule. That's what been going on with me. Yeah indeed and I'll vouch for that. You know, we had a Kanye show planned. We've been talking about it for awhile even though he'd done Kanye or Ye stuff in the past And it literally would be like, okay we should do the show. Yeah well Kanye's doing another interview here... So let me just spin it anyway We might as well, you know, just for formality Let's hit that wheel of topics round and round It goes where it stops nobody knows Well I think most of us know But you know most sometimes surprises The topic for Mo Facts with Adam Curry episode 87 is If y'all wanna frap me? It ain't gonna make a difference Honestly

02:03 Yep. Yay on deck! They've threaded him very publicly. Wait, wait, Moe maybe we should do this just to make sure we cover all the bases before we start this show. Pretty sure someone will get triggered somewhere I'm sure. If any honest conversation can be triggering, but as you know we always like to humanize people here so... But we gotta have an honest conversation and we've talked about this topic before several topics is going on right now even Kanye himself We had a episode dedicated to his... We did Quote-unquote awakening or becoming counsel proof So

02:58 I want to catch everybody up on how we got to where the show is gonna start Yeah, so and you let me know if you've heard it You haven't heard it or what you what your take on. It was okay started when he put the white lives matter shirt on yes that was yes that was the beginning of these of a cascade of dominoes Yes, so then that happened and Where we got to the anti-semitic part because that's gonna be the focus of the show We'll talk about The White Lives Matter shirt on another show cuz I think that was part of a tactic in itself It's another show trust me But when he put that shirt on Diddy aka Puff Daddy, aka Sean Combs Made it Instagram post

03:51 And Kanye and him got, we're saying it's a text slash Instagram argument. This is what mature people do Well, yeah. So we get on Instagram and we go bitch at each other This is a point that I agree though this is misunderstood because even I missed this or I kind of overlooked it But what exactly was that beef going on? Well they sent Puffy to ring Kanye's boule phone Oh Right And he said I know they sent you and You know I'm gonna make an example out of you

04:29 And then he made the infamous post of going Defcon 3 on Jews when I wake up in the morning. Right, and that's how we got to the anti-semitic part Yeah Got it So just to speed everybody else...and coincidence they've announced today Puff Daddy has become the PDD has become the third billionaire rapper Oh no after that's crazy right after after Ye was debillionaired Yeah, so... I just want to say one thing about that. I hear all the time of this person's a billionaire, that person is a billionaire Kylie Jenner is a billionaire everybody's a billionaire it kind of shows now that you know that it's such a worthless number because apparently the way people counted Ye as a billionaire was his future earnings and potential value with Adidas

05:24 Right and then the numbers are being thrown out as a wide range. He's having that saying 11 billion, please They said 2 billion now is we're gonna so I guess that leaves Hopefully all we clear on how do we got to the? Anti-semitic part oh yeah Yeah And and of course that is there was more to it But that's the one that that got all triggering right That was him grabbing the third rail with both hands and shaking it. He was licking, he was licking the third rail Moe! Yes he was moonwalking with wet socks on the third rail I mean when you saw that did you shake your head and go ah or how did you respond?

06:07 Well, oh the way I looked at it was He's rattling he's shaking that use a turn. He's shaking the table. He's not gonna get into his argument with Diddy He says I know who sent you and I full well know how to booley phone works Yeah, he's like I'm gonna talk to who call your phone It's a calm my phone I want him to come talk to me. And that's why it kind of took so long with this episode because, I was waiting for that conversation to happen and they did send somebody to talk to him and we're going to get to that later in the show let's go ahead and get the recap of Kanye being counseled which business has a role

06:50 I guess our Kanye West continues to face backlash after posting an anti-Semitic rant on Twitter and across other platforms. Although West was temporarily banned from some social media sites, his message is still available on other sites like TikTok Let's bring you now the CEO and National Director of the Anti-Defamation League, Jonathan Greenblatt. Also with us co-anchor of CBC Squawk Box Andrew Ross Sorkin And Jonathan I want to read you an op ed in The Financial Times Endeavor's CEO Ari Emanuel is calling on businesses to cut ties with Kanye West he writes this It's not enough for Twitter to lock the rapper Kanye West out of his accounts

07:37 West's business partners across the fashion and entertainment industry also need to speak out and take action. West is not just any person, he is a pop culture icon with millions of fans around the world and among them are young people whose views are still being formed. Silence is dangerous it allows forms of hatred and racism including anti-semitism to spread and become normalized It coarsens and degrades our society and country. This is why it's necessary for all of us to speak out. Hatred and anti-Semitism should have no place in our society, no matter how much money is at stake! This is a moment in history where the stakes are high – being open about our values and living them is essential. Silence and action are not an option.

08:30 Right, so at this point of course any public argument is lost and I can only presume that Kanye really wasn't... the audience he's talking to would understand where he was going with this but the public conversation was already gone. Even though Defcon doesn't mean attack It's the use of that word. Can you explain that? Because we got to get into the tweet a little bit. Yes, we do. How he used it... Who he attacked as a group and let me go ahead and explain what DEF CON 3 is to people

09:08 Well, there's different level DEF CONs and that's... I forget what the abbreviation is for but it's defense. It's a level of defense so i think the lowest is actually one most people think one is the highest but one is the lowest and I think five is the highest maybe its three? I don't know. I think worse is the lower number No, I think it's the other way around. Either way, I heard a press officer say he picked three because he didn't know. Nobody...I've never heard Defcon 3 used as an example ever in my entire life but it would not have mattered if he had said

09:51 I'll be looking at the Jewish people, it would have been deemed anti-Semitic. And that's where... and that is funny because I was talking to Tina about this and there's just one conversation that doesn't matter what you have to say, you're not allowed to say it! It's just not supposed to happen Correct. And that's with one group in particular, you know the other day I thought CIA for years stood for Catholics in action, you know Catholics are spooks You know There's a lot of grouping like that But to say this when you say Jewish people Just...you have to and not only did he do this on purpose

10:38 to lump the whole group in, hearing him go after the fact. Because when I talked about Black Lives Matter, I made it a purpose to say Black Lives Matter Inc., because I understood Black Lives Matter, the people on the ground that people have felt this you know certain way towards the sentiment... Oh man! This is what Kanye should have done he should've said Jewish People Inc And even either way, it would have been better. It would have been better right? But when he said that that's why I said was an intentional tip for the shock value because we know he loves shock value and then explain it once you go cause He even apologized not to the media and I want to be clear cause I saw some tricky headlines Kanye apologizes Kanye apologizes When he was talking to um

11:34 Megan Markle stalker, what's his name? Pierce Morgan. When he was talking to him he made an apology I'm sorry that no the people not involved that are Jewish were offended by this but he didn't say it as a blanket apology to everybody No and you understand here is what I don't think he's crazy. I think he may be... He might have, I don't think he completely estimated everything that would take place

12:13 And some of the things he said even in like, well you know it looks like Adidas You know was able to do without you they're willing to take a quarter of a billion dollar hit for it So this is pretty serious business now when that stuff happens Like okay. This is this is not messing around people's feelings can get hurt but when companies take a quarter billion dollar loss and you know and by the way We find out that as they claim They own all of Ye's designs I mean it seems And maybe I'm cutting way in line here, but I understand that Kanye is not happy with a lot of his business relationships and he hasn't been able to put everything in place the way he wanted to. So there's ways to protest against that.

12:55 This just, it just seems like such a non-starter. I mean do you want to be a martyr? Because that's all that he can be at this point. Yes! Okay if that's what he wants to be then... That's exactly what he wants to be from my, from just watching this whole thing unveil up And that's hard for Americans to swallow Americans have a very, from a capitalistic viewpoint and just the way we're put in place someone becoming a true martyr if that's what Kanye was doing. That's hard for people to comprehend Well I'm a martyr The reason why I said my personal martyr A lot of this thing I had to reflect on personally because given a choice To do business as normal If i just take the knee or the shot

12:13 And some of the things he said even in like, well you know it looks like Adidas You know was able to do without you they're willing to take a quarter of a billion dollar hit for it So this is pretty serious business now when that stuff happens Like okay. This is this is not messing around people's feelings can get hurt but when companies take a quarter billion dollar loss and you know and by the way We find out that as they claim They own all of Ye's designs I mean it seems And maybe I'm cutting way in line here, but I understand that Kanye is not happy with a lot of his business relationships and he hasn't been able to put everything in place the way he wanted to. So there's ways to protest against that.

12:55 This just, it just seems like such a non-starter. I mean do you want to be a martyr? Because that's all that he can be at this point. Yes! Okay if that's what he wants to be then... That's exactly what he wants to be from my, from just watching this whole thing unveil up And that's hard for Americans to swallow Americans have a very, from a capitalistic viewpoint and just the way we're put in place someone becoming a true martyr if that's what Kanye was doing. That's hard for people to comprehend Well I'm a martyr The reason why I said my personal martyr A lot of this thing I had to reflect on personally because given a choice To do business as normal If i just take the knee or the shot

13:42 or be a martyr and say, you know what? I'm not gonna bend. I'm not gonna fold. And we see how much it- a slave costs now 200- you're saying 1.5 billion dollars is what your freedom cost that's the going rate for a slave right now and he bought his own freedom that's how i see it and he made himself a martyr I'm telling you, I gotta give you the perspective because on a bunch of different level hip hop itself to start there. The hardest thing for our hip hop artists to do is get out of their deal. Puffy is known for this and we're saying like he's known for keeping people in contract over and over again and holding it over their head so by doing this he wiped his slate clean they own his designs but they don't own Yeezy

14:36 They don't own his music. He's not under any kind of... I'm going a little bit ahead by explaining this. No, no, but I have to interject with one quick thing. When this went down the first thing i said is Oh wow, only after more than 80 conversations of three to four hours each am I able to comprehend what's going on here. I mean, I know what's going on. I understand all the issues because we've been over them many many times and I heard a lot of you in what he was saying...I did! In what he was saying. Tina said that too, that stuff Mo says

15:16 And so this is, I guess this is to say that there's a lot of just ignorance. People just do not understand the depth when people protest for pro-life or either way if they haven't grown up in a particular culture in America and we have many cultures we have Chinese cultures Italian cultures you know got all kinds of cultures Jewish cultures, black culture. If you haven't grown up with it or you haven't had the luxury to be exposed to a lot of the honest thinking which is what we've done

16:03 There's no way you can comprehend it. People are so fucking biased, do you understand what I'm saying? That I just want to say... Right and they're shaped by the media! Yeah of course and that's why people love this show And that's why I just want to set that up because we are comfortable diving right into this conversation. I wanna make sure everyone who is listening gets a little refresher course We've been through all these individual issues American Blacks vs. American Jews show, which episode was that? Right that was 76. Yeah third rail which was named Third Rail because Kanye shouldn't be listening to our show man he's getting ideas from our shows this is no good. I tell you what Kanye realized and i've known this for a while now is that these two black thumbs I have

17:01 have more power than going out in the street and rallying, than anything else because you have people. This was the Ados thing black thorns ruin Kamala Harris's presidential election before it started Black Thorn has pulled the veil off of this why they silence voices like my own Twitter and created a manufactured black Twitter because They can't go out every day and rally. Now when you come home from work, just so we're clear when you say they then we got to go a little bit further than the boulé who is they in this case? You know when you say they created black Twitter now we saw how MSNBC participated that and it's always a mystery other than enormous groupthink but if you were

17:56 How do you think this algorithm comes to life? This algorithm that says, these people yes. These people no. By what you say! Just right, but who returned who determines the? Triggers the levels well joy read not joy read no of course. Not that's the thing is the bullet phone their bullet phone The people that called the people to call Kanye Who's on the other end of that line and that's your answer and he's went one step further to say, okay Diddy I don't want to talk to you. I want to talk to the person that called you so but who called them? You feel it's like is yeah no i understand what i understand what you're saying i'm just wanna make sure that we cover all the bases when we're it's easy to say they but we so do you know have an idea of who that would be just in the diddy case No i don't okay But

19:00 Let's get through the episode and I think we'll start peeling off the onion layer by layer. Sure thing! Alright, so let's go ahead and get to clip number three On a highway in Los Angeles, drivers were greeted with this anti-Semitic banner over the weekend following a recent string of hateful comments from rapper Kanye West who is now known as Ye. Today his talent agency CAA confirmed it is no longer representing West several other companies recently cut ties as well while pressure is mounting on Adidas home to the rappers Yeezy brand to do the same The thing about being an adidas

19:36 I can literally say anti-Semitic and they came dropping. The company says their partnership is under review but has not responded to requests for further comment just this afternoon his ex wife Kim Kardashian tweeting hate speech is never okay or excusable, I stand together with the Jewish community and call on the terrible violence and hateful rhetoric towards them to come immediate end. West is one of the most successful pop artists of all time, but most recently it has been his controversial behavior getting attention wearing a White Lives Matter T-shirt followed by anti Semitic posts and interviews spreading conspiracy theories about Jewish control over the media and government hateful rhetoric now being echoed by a celebrity with tens of millions of followers

20:23 Both Twitter and Instagram have restricted his accounts and deleted posts. But the Anti-Defamation League believes West's comments may be emboldening hate groups. Antisemitic incidents in the U.S. reached an all time high last year. Yeah, and they were off to the races see now so when yay says that when he says I can say anti-semitic shit And Adidas can't get rid of me. That's what I knew He was he was all in on death or you know Or some kind of economic suicide business suicide What you see is business suicide? I see his business freedom III understand I understand the thing that mattered to him is

21:07 His music he owns. No record contract, Yeezy name he owns because if you're a creator it's like I can create another pair of shoes. I could create another album but you don't own me and if it takes one-and-a-half billion dollars or whatever number... And those are just ones in zeros somewhere based off evaluation You see what I'm saying? And you asked me the question who were they I'm going to ask that question back to you because your building Podcast 2.0, who is the thing that makes you feel that you need to build Podcasting 2.0? Excellent question! I will never say a great question and as you were talking about his freedom i realized of course that uh... I literally sold possessions to buy my freedom fifteen years ago

22:02 When I went on a Pure Value for value, this is the podcast that I do with John C. Dvorak so I have to say wow Let me interject, that was a rhetorical question but just to highlight the point of... No no no. But you're making really good points so of course who I was going against is exactly the same people The they You're right absolutely although it's literally for me it was easier to say podcasting 2.0 is built to combat Apple because everyone was tied into Apple, so we were providing an alternative to the Apple database which became the default on-ramp to podcasting. And I took that away from them but when it comes to podcasting itself and freedom yes! And I gave up some very valuable things that were very dear for me... To be able to get where I am The only thing is

23:05 It took me a long time, once you figure out that the true success is not billions of dollars. And maybe Ye has figured this out and maybe this is his statement it's like I don't care about $1 billion and honestly I don't either because I know what comes with any high price tag that's attached to anything or anybody of any business background So I'm, thank you for pointing that out because that makes a lot of sense. And if and if that's what Kanye is doing there are other ways to do it but I understand he wants to hopefully he wants to get people to start talking about stuff so we can all just talk openly with each other about all things But is there another way?

23:48 There and I'm not asking that without the answer to it, but I'm explaining to you. I think Kanye's on a lag of my Development hold on ask me question go ahead. I didn't say hey You know what? I'm building podcast index org because the Jews control the media they won't control this I didn't say that Nor do I think that. Of course! But this is my point, I went out and found the alternatives built it with the grind see i'm not bogged down by fame and that's where Kanye's head explodes It's very difficult to handle that level of notoriety fame recognition you don't know who's who your ex-wife is talking shit about you on Twitter

24:40 That's really tough. And not only that, but the reason why I brought... The difference is you made a decision and you were already free. Nobody had paperwork on you. He had to get out of his paperwork! You know what I mean? Adidas has him in contracts and I'm sure if he wanted to press this thing let me go they would have held it against him. He did something so irrational to the point where they had to sever ties and Adidas drugged this thing out forever. I gotta tell you why i'm laughing, this is crazy so...I was just thinking you know what? I did walk away from paper and that was when I quit MTV, I quit on air! And then I remembered what they did to me they sued me

25:36 So, I guess once again... It doesn't really matter if you're black or white. But I said hey the evil corporation is going after me Right and... Which by the way everyone can get behind hating corporations just saying right but in this is not a once-again because he went when he went back and quote unquote his apology was If I hurt lumping people into this group and not being more specific about her, she almost sorry which is collateral damage from his standpoint.

26:14 Because he had to say me if you even brought up Soros we saw what happened to uh, what's your guys name? The the Republican when you brought up on Fox of all places sorrowed. Oh that's anti-semitic We can't dabble in that so I don't know What's his name? What's this man the white hair guy He ran for president and and he was talking to the black lady And he brought up sorrows as she's paused for a minute. We covered a clip Here um I believe yeah, I believe. I just can't what the white-haired guy Yeah, um big head. White haired guy with a big head. Boris Johnson? No he's uh anyway people know who we're talking about I hope they do but it doesn't matter i'm just saying even the mention of Soros yeah we saw how they did with Ice Cube when we cover when Ice Cube tried to have some independent thought oh yeah no right away that became anti-semitic even if even just saying Soros right became anti-semitic

27:11 So I'm just saying that he had to do something irrational, um... To get the platform. And I think Trump did this when he came down the escalator and said Mexicans are rapists coming across the border it was so shocking that you know it sucked air out of the room yeah I don't and this is not being a fan Because I do have admiration for Kanye and I do have Issues with Kanye because Kanye went all the way to the left for me when he was like pushing the Illuminati imagery hard And I've never listened to the Yeezus album because I found that to be blasphemous, you know so I'm not some kind of fanboy But I know you don't get to where he's at without giving deep thought to what your moves are

28:08 Yeah, I agree. So i'm very interested to see where this goes if it's just a bias freedom. I would say mission accomplished he's going to be out of all his contracts and then he can do what he wants to do right? And that's the plan then wow long game very very very long game well we gotta remember he was 58 million dollars in debt and you ran it up two billion. What we gotta know is that inherently if you look at his tweet I don't think you could say violent rhetoric and that's, and the DEF CON word is the problem there. And he used death instead of D-E-F he used death which... Oh see? I didn't even know that well so okay well then yeah that's dumb

28:56 It's dumb. Right, right it was dumb but again it wouldn't have mattered no matter what he had said you would have gotten the same media response because that's what the media does the media is waiting for this and they pulled in Trump real quick like oh just like Trump you know Trump said also anti-semitic hateful rhetoric it's the media of course shaping that Right, so let's go ahead and he thought he couldn't be dropped but Surprise breaking news from adidas this morning the company has announced it will drop Kanye West as a partner This is that as part of a groundswell of pressure really growing calls for the company to end its partnership with the American rapper and designer who's now known as yay and

29:43 He has made recently anti-Semitic remarks. His behavior has been as well offensive and the company has cited all of that in severing ties Hillary Johnstone following the story this morning, this list of companies cutting ties Hillary is growing but Adidas was really one that people were waiting for It was one that people were waiting for, Heather. Because they have for a couple of weeks now sort of been waiting to announce any final decision here so earlier this month they said that they were going to be reviewing their partnership with Kanye West now known as Ye but of course there's news coming this morning that affected immediately their cutting ties and they also say that they do expect at this move will cost them some 250 million euros it's about 246 million dollars

30:31 But saying in a statement, quote, Adidas does not tolerate anti-Semitism and any other sort of hate speech. Ye's recent comments and actions have been unacceptable, hateful and dangerous, and they violate the company's values." And just recently the rapper was actually boasting about something that some of this thing that quote I can say anti-semitic things and adidas can't drop me but of course the German sportswear company now has and as you say joins a growing list of various companies and agencies that are seeking to cut ties. You know, you learn a lot in these types of events I learned a lot about Adidas's history. We've talked about it before on this show! There was Hugo Boss making uniforms and boots for the Nazis Right And who has the pressure? Who has the kind of power To put pressure on adidas

31:30 to take that kind of hit. It's not even about the money, we'll destroy your image Adidas if you don't do what we want to do and to prove that 4A since you brought it up." Ye who had worked with adidas since 2013 on his yeezy line of super expensive super popular sneakers thought he was untouchable. Adidas gets an estimated four to eight percent of its sales from Yeezy products according to investment bank Cohen For Ye, it was an even bigger deal accounting for 1.5 billion dollars of his net worth But Ye's worth put the German athletic wear company with its own Nazi ties dating back to its founders in the hot seat What followed was an even more escalating pressure on Adidas to sever ties with Ye as a string of anti-semitic remarks drew condemnation from the top tiers of Hollywood for weeks adidas stayed silent except to say on October 6 that their partnership with ye was under review

32:26 The pressure mounted on Adidas after an image was released over the weekend of a banner draped over a Los Angeles highway overpass reading, Kanye Was Right About The Jews accompanied by a group of white supremacists giving the Nazis salute to the drivers below. The white supremacists were apparently referring to Ye's DEATHCON 3 on Jewish People tweet that got his Twitter account locked Now the road has ended But there's always the chance Ye could relaunch Yeezy on his own. Just days ago, Ye made his first post to Parler—the right-wing social media site he agreed to acquire for an undisclosed amount after getting locked out of Twitter and Instagram. You tell me when it's appropriate to give my opinion on the Parler acquisition? Uh... we can talk about this banner first. Yeah. And that was the only banner apparently! The ONLY BANNER for supposed white supremacy

33:18 Standing given the you know, the hell Hitler saluting and Apparently they were saying Kanye West was right about going Defcon 3 on Jewish people. Like how was This banner, this is what the media does. They'll take one example of four people amplify it to make it seem like- It's everywhere? It's everywhere and it's to the most far extreme interpretation of what was said Yeah well this is drama based entertainment Mo Correct At its finest All the things we talked about

34:02 It's all in there. I found that to be strange, it was like you didn't go interview them? You just...you didn't go talk to them? No! Someone who posted this on Instagram and that's how the media got a hold of it and then they're off to the races That's all they need Right, but wouldn't it be more banners? Wouldn't it be more... No no this was the only one in the whole country. That's... except that didn't seem that way I know! This is one of their media favorite tricks Right, so in speaking of trick... It had to be in your package. You know you had to have this I'm surprised because she bought a white supremacist This might might have been a little earlier But I'm surprised she didn't bring in Trump cuz that was the next element That's ultimately what they want to do how can we use this to get rid of Trump? That's all that's what the media's mission is

34:54 Well, it's good because I mean Trump and Kanye are tied at the hip now. So anything Kanye does is inspired by Trump It's kind of like a given well Because him putting that red hat on but you were gonna speak about part No, you nailed it so Trump has his own social network Kanye gets his own social network But what is he really buying? And I just want to point out that the CEO of Parliament Which is the services, because after they restructured there's a services company Parliament and then you have the skin over it if you will is Parler. The CEO was Candace Owens' husband so I just want to point out that... It depends on what he's paying for it but if you don't have the underlying technology what are you actually buying?

35:45 You can turn it into yay, okay? So you're just putting a brand on it. Maybe he's not putting any money up We don't know anything about it that would be kind of my suspicion you forced my hand mr.. Curry I will do all as you always do to You ask the question in which I have the answer he's buying Candace Okay, you know that yeah are you aware of the the calls to Ben Shapiro to? To fire Candace or cut ties with Candice go one level higher who funds The Daily Wire Isn't that the guy with the razors the Wilkes family?

36:27 in Texas. And now I'm just got this, we're going to revisit this in another whole other show and that's why the show takes so long because as I go down these rabbit holes is sub-rabbit holes and it's like oh gotta put that over there for later and yeah the Wilkes family which they are this... They're Christians? They believe in Christ? They like messianic Jews. Interesting So she bought the hand, she bit the hand that feeds Ben Shapiro with her actions. And just to give you some insight did you know nobody from The Big Whiz from The Daily Wire showed up to our Black Lives Matter premiere? You mean the documentary? Yes! No no it doesn't surprise me None of them showed up because they're not happy with Candace but Candace sees that

37:28 It linking with this is all speculation now, but linking what Kanye helps her to where she really wants to go and that's the get into culture not politics culture And a lot of her topics have been culture based and for her She knew how that was going. Her husband had didn't know how it was gonna win Oh, of course I mean there were some problems because Kanye came to the black lives matter documentary premiere Yes He did yeah Which is I see her shifting gears like I can stay over here at the Daily Wire. Always be number two behind maybe three behind Ben Shapiro and I forget the other guy's name that made The Trans documentary, but Matt, um, Matt Walsh, she could be number three or she could top hitch her wagon to

38:25 a celebrity as big as Kanye West. Well that would make a lot more sense for her, which is so that's just going along with the white lives matter t-shirt that was basically her saying I'm in this camp and irony of it because when he put that t-shirt on people could talk with blanket statements about white people with no problem No, no. As soon as you say something... Look Moe obviously the hypocrisy is on its face but the whole world is upside down like that my brother it's like there's so much crazy stuff and just complete denials So when you look at this from end to beginning was this all a rollout? When you time with the last DEF CON 3

39:16 I did play your hand, didn't i? I did play your hand. Yes you did! God dang it! I'm sorry, I should have had him on! See this is so good because unfortunately You know, we're not making a show to keep you listening for ratings and advertising. Unfortunately we're just cutting to the chase and getting into it And I'm hammering you in the beginning like what's the long game? What is this guy doing? What is happening here? This makes no sense he's too smart for this! And your holding back Alright alright I'll let you go brother just keep going I will go with the flow It's good though because now we see that this is business

39:56 This is not hate, this is not anything else. It's business at the end of the day and I'm just putting myself in Kyae's mind. This is deep! This is a very deep move holy crap Right because Candace Owens is a problem and when I say her problem that's a good thing she's a problem She's the like conservative Oprah. Yeah, you told me you told me yeah black Oprah in the making no not just well Yeah, you're right not even black conservative. You're right conservative Oprah in the making boom. Yep She got a parlor from you let me buy how much is Parler? You know y'all gonna be that's that y'all gonna Be alright check as long you saying you stick to the script

40:41 So what Kya does when he gets- Explain that, explain that. Y'all gonna be alright. To Candace and her husband as long as y'all you know... don't come out against me, you're gonna be okay. And she stood tall! You know she could have easily folded especially... She's in a very fragile position. That's interesting- Okay well hold on a second if you don't mind. Because I saw this rollout and i was very surprised obviously Tucker Carlson goes we've got yay big sit down interview it's amazing we got this we flew to Los Angeles and of course I'm like

41:20 Well, that was a Candace Owens hookup because they had just done the Paris Fashion Show. So I understood how that had come to be but what i didn't understand is how he went on you know do you have a podcast with a cat listening? Ye could be on that podcast! He lost it's kind of like the cardinal rule He was breaking many rules of crisis management, of PR, um... Of celebrity. Celebrity always needs to have some mystique about it Don't always let too much out You certainly don't do one big interview and follow it up with ABC and NBC And Piers Morgan and Lex Friedman I have a feeling that Joe Rogan probably didn't want

42:15 No, no joke. He's like nah Joe is a little too smart for this Right I was like no you can unwind that one bro But in that context, it was a press tour really with the payoff still coming. Okay? I'm in on this. With the optics of him with the big crazy beard on Tucker Carlson looking like a madman everything then he goes and does like you said Piers Morgan then he does The Drink Champs that's Urban Media You know He's hitting all the spots and he's poking the bear Adidas can't drop me

42:54 Kept poking the bear, kept poking the bear. He's basically saying divorce me bitch! Right Wow okay this is a whole new person I'm glad we can take it out of the whole anti-semitic realm for a bit because this is so much more interesting no offense everybody but that's covered That's covered We know how horrible it all is Well we gotta talk about why and how manipulation of the third rail is a problem. Kanye manipulated the third rail apparently, right? And he even said that in an interview I'm straight y'all used to say one little thing was anti-Semitic i'ma stretch the you know what they call me I've learned as the Overton window he stretched the Overton window so what is acceptable to say yeah and we got it we gotta look at the time of this he did it right during Yom Kippur

43:52 Yet the war yarn Kapoor was the last Defcon 3 issue. I didn't even Didn't catch that one, which was 26 years ago almost to the date of when he rolled us out We got Twitter being opened up by Elon Musk who's also been called an anti-semite Yeah. All of this is going on at the same time! No, no I'm well aware, you know the Musk thing is sit tight right? Let's see what happens there you know I have my thoughts Right but he knew Twitter couldn't cancel him forever because Elon couldn't keep Kanye off and now you see he's back Is Kanye back on? Well his account's back, it's active Oh okay alright

44:41 I mean, you can't...I mean, he...uhh..Elon has talked about no lifetime bans. Right You know sooo....I'm just saying umm this is what uhmm this is my perspective of whats going on but I have another example cause I always talk about the local media, local news whatever they show in the local news is what they want the average everyday person to think Yeah it's rolled out nationally exactly right here's an LA county teacher talking about her students Yes, and we're not in front of the school because as ugly as this is it is not really indicative of the school as a whole. This happened in one classroom The teacher felt strongly enough about this whole thing she had to post about it Watch this

45:27 A student came up to me in front of everyone and said, Miss Shana are you Jewish? And I responded with why are you asking. Their response was because it's concerning and I said why is it concerning? They said because its not good. Then another student shouted out Kanye West hates Jews Shana Ross on Instagram with a post very different from the usual fare of the musician and stand-up comedian who is open to satire about her Jewish heritage. You know I'm Jewish, right?

46:08 You guys know, right? I don't milk cows. I milk rich students." With that said she was stunned with comments from fourth graders at one of the LA schools where she teaches music enrichment. The first thing that happened is my heart sank and i didn't know what to do. I almost started crying and the only thing I knew how to do was move the kids along uh... to finish their projects and not address it in front of whole class A teacher, fourth grade teacher. Who just happens to be a comedian...

46:50 A good friend of ours is a high school teacher in Austin, and she is... I call her the liberal Austin high school teacher. And we love her very much because she's incredibly open to non-liberal thinking and talking, and she's a fun person. We invite her to Thanksgiving. You know? We like her. Jewish. She is so traumatized by the things going on just and not up not necessarily Kanye but again, you know Trump was kind of pulled into it and right-wing extremists and neo Nazis. Her mother is British, she was talking to Tina the other day says oh well I got my British passport so i'm now dual citizen so you know if Trump or any other horrible Republican is elected president I am leaving the country and going to live in England. And I don't

47:49 I empathize with her level of trauma because the media... No, of course! The same way they do it slavery. Yeah yeah, I'm not saying- The same way they do it slavery. Not saying that's- Same way they do everything else Yes yes, I'm not saying it's Kanye's fault. I'm saying this is what the media is doing with these stories literally at the school level That's why I say this high school teacher is traumatized It's you know that just goes round and round and round in those circles But I have one question for the Jewish people that's in power to silence Kanye. Why didn't we have this when he says slavery is a choice? When he went on a Jewish platform, TMZ and said something as incendiary and inflaming as slavery is a choice to traumatize black people let me be clear To them that was just as traumatic

48:54 But he didn't get canceled. Adidas, they didn't call for Adidas to cancel him They didn't call for anybody to drop him So it's like always only when certain groups are traumatized that we actually see real action Yes well Kanye picked the right one then And this is what leads to the strained relationship between Jewish I mean black Americans and Jewish-Americans What do you mean this is what leads to it? the fact that if you talk about one group, you see actual actions happening. Oh no of course! You know what's interesting though? I'm just as you said that... What didn't happen or was not in the script or whatever what didn't happen is wow man blacks hate Jews That didn't happen Conservative Republicans and Ye specifically

49:52 You know what I mean? There was none of that. Even though there's that tension, that tension was not brought up in any of these stories Because they gotta have... They got to use the lever. They gotta use the White Lives Matter shirt still, and if you make it between—they need to keep blacks and Jews together against Kanye Wait so wait a minute You're telling me that the white lives matter was thought out that far in advance to make sure that would be The hinge point or the trigger point? No what I'm saying is the media can't—

50:32 Use the white lives matter t-shirt to keep black people s against Kanye in race Against him like did you see what he said and then with the George Floyd thing? Did your hear we've said about George Floyd, you know, did it You know, did you see that T shirt who was wearing black people. You should be just as outraged as we are You're right. You're right. He threw the Floyd thing in Yep Yeah So they can't they can't this is this is a problem when they had to cobble together these groups Until you know collective But when you talk, like you were saying if you play that card. Like black people are hateful towards Jewish people then that strains and then that pushes people over to Kanye's side or not even caring which they have to have the outrage from black people as well so let's go ahead and go back a little bit to the third episode And I did a mashup of that clip A Strained Relationship This is part one

51:27 Iconic photos of Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marching alongside the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., encapsulates the best of the black Jewish relationship at that time, often called The Golden Period between the two communities. Rabbi Joachim Prinz who devoted much of his life to the American Civil Rights Movement spoke just before MLK took the podium in DC to deliver his famous I Have a Dream speech Black and Jewish Americans continued the fight for civil rights during the 1964 Freedom Summer Project in Mississippi, where Jewish activists joined others helping register black voters and joined protests in front of courthouses. Jews had relatively greater access to education and finances

52:09 giving them more class mobility. These opportunities, combined in some part with the healthy bonds between the communities enabled Jews to open businesses and buy property in predominantly black areas a degree of coexistence that sowed the seeds of discord A Jew was now their boss, their landlord or their creditor playing into age-old anti-semitic tropes Yeah, and I would advise everybody to go listen to episode 76 because it's hard to summarize that tension in two minutes. You did a good job but there are a lot of parameters there. But I'm just saying the fact that you see one group going up... We started at the same level supposedly but then you see one group growing up their families were left intact

52:56 They're allowed to worship in their beliefs and these kind of things. You see all this happening, and it causes tension because like oh we marched together but now we look back what is that now 1960? What 60 years ago? Now we look back 60 years you your group has gained a lot while the black group has been stagnant And that's going to naturally cause tension Now, do you think that there is a belief that that is done intentionally? Yes. Yes it's I mean... That's the thing! It has to be like I said when you look at rappers and who they're signed to and what my point is business if you sign a bad deal it's your fault that you signed a bad deal right but when you're trying to get too quick

54:00 money to develop your idea, whatever it is. You will sign the bad deal and you have people say oh we're brothers and we're brothers that kind of thing. We got stick together but it's like let's renegotiate the contract I don't know about that we got a contract A contract's a contract. You understand what I'm saying? Right, right so let's just put it this way and see this is the real crux of what Lex Friedman was trying to do with Kanye which was the useless mission. The difference between there's this industry and this industry is run by

54:41 Group of people and that's right here to say in certain industries Certain industries are the all key positions just like if we're fair about it men run all Fortune 500 companies except for a portion that are women I mean, it's the same kind of thing Except you're not allowed to talk about one and you are allowed to talk about the other but if it comes down to strictly business. I think The music business is the one that is demonstrably provable. Which group of men run this? Right, and here's the thing in the climate we live in if a woman has three four bad experiences with me throughout her life she could say

55:33 I hate men. Men are terrible people, we need to destroy the patriarchy." You know that kind of thing and nobody bats an eye. Or Christians for that reason or whoever. Fill in the blank! We saw it with the war in the Middle East You know, we didn't go and say let's go find the bad brown people. It's not entirely true because when it was against... goodness! The Goya Beans guy he always responds politically but it's just him there's not I guess there's not a lot of Mexican-American owned big food businesses

56:10 And you see how they're starting to treat free-thinking Hispanics once they start to think for themselves. I think the Hispanics are well aware of what's going on, they're like shit man who is next? The white guy or the brown guy close call! But why is that Maybe even Joe Biden, you're not black if you don't vote for me. And nobody batted an eye and it's just like okay that's normal? Do think of when Trump said I've done a lot for Jews Naomi Oh it was anti-semitic! That's exactly what they did. But Joe Biden can say You're not black It doesn't matter if you take out black or write in Jewish. He'd say You're not Jewish If you don't vote for me What the outrage would have been Absolutely right There is your complete

56:58 An utter hypocrisy. Now by the way, John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry batted quite an eye over that but to say nobody is also not fair there are voices... I'm saying in the mainstream media in the control let's just call it the control media In this bubble you had black people come out and explain away for Joe Biden You know? And you have a term now called Black-Black Oh! You're not Black-Black You know, the black wait a minute. But yeah like you might be black ladies This is like to play on youth all skin folk ain't can't folk you're saying you're not black black if you don't think this way Which is really blue-black because it's the Democratic policies If you don't agree with the Democratic policies you anyway black no, you ain't black black right? You ain't black black Yeah, so Black Black is now Democrat Yes

57:52 In the media! I gotcha, I gotcha. So i'm just saying this is powder keg... I got you, I'm just gonna take it down to the personal level so yet yourself included by willing to submit to YouTube And the reason is obvious because that's where the audience is right now. Right? You know, and I understand but so what are you gonna do when we move you from YouTube to podcasting 2.0? What are you going to do a Kanye? Let me be clear. I don't take any money from YouTube, never have. Never signed up to be monetized or anything else You take advantage of the audience building capabilities Of course So you're paying for it one way or the other Right they are getting access to my material for free And your social graph who you associate with a lot of stuff Correct

58:52 but there's no paperwork. You see what I'm saying? Like, they can't control me like my bills are not... My income is not affected if they delete my channel. Okay. That's the difference between this is why contract and paperwork and it alludes to imageries of slavery. Like you know, you can just plant... It's a big plantation! You're saying go all around the acres as you want to but soon as you step off of it that's a problem Right But in general coming from mainstream media You are, I mean you can call it a slave. You can call it a talking head. You can call it a puppet That's why I kept getting fired is because there are certain things that just wouldn't do or where I disagreed with so It's controlled media no matter who you are they're controlling you if you're in it

59:42 And all this feeds into the trauma which how they control the masses, you know The media control the masses via trauma. So I'm just to keep going on relationship and a strange relationship I want to hear Russell Simmons He speaks about the Kanye situation which he's done a ton of business with Jewish businessmen so he has a great perspective so I want to hear he's going to explain how those business dealings happened. Then one time I can tell you a great story, all the buildings, every building on 125th Street owned by Jews or by Syrian Jews too so it was kind of interesting the little families in Ocean Parkway owned all their real estate why did they own the real estate? Because blacks couldn't afford it and WASPs didn't want to own it

1:00:29 similar to when I was a kid and the Jews owned some of the candy stores and the grocery stores. So why are the Jews in our business? Because the WASP didn't want to be, and the blacks couldn't afford it again. So from a business standpoint we should see them they got their hands dirty even in banking they got their hands dirty money was dirty So why are the Jews so close to us? They're in businesses that we are in, businesses that the WASP didn't like or didn't want. And then they ended up being the number one empowerment group for us in those businesses. But all of these things is not so complex. The Jews are where the WASP let them be. They don't control everything. They control what WASP let them control

1:01:16 And that's really our experience and reality, and what they let them control. Whether it's parts of the music business, parts of the film business... Well, the film business! Jews were there. Ohhhh okay well that's a fair assessment I like Russell Simmons' way he does that It's the WASP that controls the Jews That who calls their Boulay phone You're allowed- When they say WASP I'm just gonna say white supremacy which we would describe on this show as a one world government per Nellie Fuller. You can call them globalists, you can call them whatever you want to call them... And by the way that's exactly who took over from the Catholics in action at the CIA was The Wasps! Right so they say okay we won't be as hard on you Jewish people

1:02:10 as long as you don't cut a good deal with black people. And no, I'm just saying this and what I was speaking from, I'm speaking from a blanket terms here but this is how it's perceived and this is...I have to give you my perspective. No, I want your perspective. Of course! To get to an understanding with a bit you like my man Grunt say we got to get to the bit you understanding so when like you said after 80 episodes plus eight episodes when you saw what was going on You had it understanding sure this way Oh, I know how that sounds to this person. I know that's how that's received from this person Yeah, I understand as a sensitive subject and I understand from

1:02:55 The Jewish aspect of it, the Holocaust was way after slavery and they're way closer to it than we are to slavery. You see what I'm saying? So, from their point of any... They have to be sensitive. To hear you know what i'm saying like oh we got to stamp that out! We gotta stamp it out! As you should anytime somebody says something negative about your group you should stamp it out What we as black people so-called have been bad at is Not doing that allowing people to paint us in a certain way or use imagery in a certain way, you know saying we Neglected how harmful that is and then even to the point of being traumatic and sensitive and being a snowflake Oh he said just like Joe Bob was like airplane seats are racist. Are you kidding me?

1:03:48 What, uh... One of these interviews might have been with Friedman. Kanye went down the list—maybe you have it later on—he went down the list of my people He ended up with half of the my people are being aborted. We were given overweight women to look at and telling us that's healthy, you know all the shitty food is where we live. You know my people he said my people and that was impactful no one saw that of course it doesn't make the rounds like everything else but That was to me was kind of a core message

1:04:27 Right, and one thing I'm going to highlight in a later show is Neal Fuller brings it up. He calls it racial showcasing. White supremacy operates this way. Let's take a handful of people and let them be successful so that we can say oh they're successful black people They're successful Jewish people. You see what I'm saying? It's racial showcasing You know that this is we're gonna let certain people and that's the boule. And the boule gets so comfortable in That success that they don't say anything it's like I'm not gonna give up my spot, i'm not gonna give up My 1.5 billion dollars. I'll never give up my nice house. I'm not going to give up you know Whatever status I have in sure in society, you know to put it all on the line

1:05:16 you know, for my people. So I mean so we have to realize that at the end of the day it's they and we don't know who they are that's why we call them they You can call it The World Economic Forum, you can call it The Council on Foreign Relations, you can call it the UN or whatever you want to call it but there is a handful of people that can say this is how we want social engineering society through trauma Well now it's embedded. And we're all traumatized Now when you learn how to become a journalist, you learn how to traumatize It's now embedded in the learnings and the teaching of how to do journalism Today is modern journalism I'm going to say something here that I haven't said before But they've kicked white people out of whiteness

1:06:03 There's another thing Nellie Food talks about is white sacrifice. We got to have some white homeless people You know saying like we gotta have some white People just struggling so then we can say see we are struggle too, but this is how they control it So there's so there are certain so-called white people that ain't white no more y'all orange No, I'm serious. I say that with the seriousness because what do they call it? Orange man and if you agree with orange man you're orange You're a color person now. You know cuz you ain't going along with the program Yeah, not going along with trans. Yep right you not going along with trans you're not going along with Uh, you know whatever, you know eating bugs or whatever If you're not with this, you're not with us your orange now your color your person of color Right cool

1:06:52 So this is what's happening and this system has been around for a long time, and it's not. It's an anti-justice system It's not we're going to deal with each other on a system of basis of justice. They say, you know these are the rules and we want to judge by the rules it's offer preferential treatment What so interesting though is the path that Kanye chose to do this is a path that is So hard I mean, it's almost like Vax anti-vax within families to have this conversation Correct. It's a real tough one And how people say all doctors are bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, all doctors are bad because you didn't say anything against the vaccine or nurses were bad or pharmaceutical workers were bad. It's the same thing we just all lumped... They give us a target to go at and that is why I was very careful about not getting into that anti-vaxxer thing. I am pro choice

1:07:45 A person, that's when the infringement happens. When you took my choice away a person can be pro if you want to get 19 boosters. Go for it! Have your kids talked to you about this? Have they asked you about this or is this a conversation at all that just happens at home? Yes My 19 year old daughter who just turned 19 today Happy birthday to her and I had one turn 13 yesterday which as a quick aside This is how dedicated I am to the show because To be a recorder on one of my children's birthday, but this had to be done and it couldn't wait any longer. I just want to make that point Is the car pink that you have to buy her? No no car no car, but you know it definitely did cost me Appreciate it yeah, so I'm just I wanted made up points So you asked me yes

1:08:35 I always ask, especially my... Because my younger children aren't on social media. But my oldest is and I'll ask her so what you hear about this? And I don't lead them, you know. And I'll get an honest intel of her perception of it. It's like, oh she's like Kanye said some anti-Semitic things but she's not with... Like, I don't think people should be counseled for what they say if you want to unfollow somebody go for it! If you want to even mute them on social media go for it but we shouldn't and that was our perspective on it. Good good But she, you know... But is it traumatizing for her in any way? No. As intended right as intended trauma-based entertainment Because she's not Jewish so I mean so it was not that but I mean

1:09:29 I'm sure the white lives matter thing she was like that's kind of off color. You know what saying like that come on, you know why would you do that? You know which is our honest opinion which i never try to shape my childrens' opinion and make them drones so... That's the boots on the ground from the teenager in the house. So let's go ahead and get into this strange relationship again. And I'm harping on this because This is how they create trauma it's not about throwing rocks across at each other because Honestly, a lot of us are on the bottom. You know what I'm saying? Like most of 99.99999% of us are on the bottom as far as under who controls it now they have different levels you know okay you're here and you're here and you're here but it's agreed whether stated or not stated that black people are gonna be on the bottom of the bottom they have to stay there

1:10:28 and everybody is kind of bought into it in a sense. Because nobody comes, and I have to say this Hispanics don't really come out and rep for black people when we're offended but then they sell us the Black and Brown Coalition or Black and Brown Alliance you see what I'm saying? With anti-Asian hate you had a lot of black celebrities getting behind that but you didn't see a lot of that coming back the other way So it leads to the perception and in my mind, it's a reality. It's like well they got to do for themselves and if they okay with it I'm okay with it that's the perception how people look at us but that's what stopping now because those black thumbs you know we got the power influence And when those thumbs get to working and shouting down people in comment sections and posting and memes and all of this stuff is a very powerful force which

1:11:30 I think Kanye's trying to tap into, i'll say that. Okay well if he can then he will be a legit billionaire Hey! I mean let's see but all right let's go back into the strange relationship just to see how it unraveled further into the 80s and 90s Throughout the 1970s and 80's, the bonds between the Jewish and Black communities strained under growing racial tensions in urban America. Atlanta's first Jewish mayor employed racist rhetoric in his re-election campaign against black challenger Maynard Jackson

1:12:05 In 1984, presidential hopeful Jesse Jackson made a number of anti-Semitic comments referring to Jews as Haimis. The growth and increased visibility of the anti-Semitic Nation of Islam didn't help matters As the Israeli Palestinian conflict drew greater international attention division between communities mounted as Palestinians were increasingly seen as people of color with Jews seen as white oppressors And while many in both communities continue to cherish the golden period of the 50s and 60s, others began to portray Jewish support for civil rights as paternalistic and therefore just another form of racism. More recently old wounds were reopened when voices within movements like Black Lives Matter and The Women's March

1:12:49 made anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist remarks. In 2019, extremists connected to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement were responsible for the murder of four people including two Jews at a Jersey City synagogue and kosher supermarket For some these are simply isolated incidents for others this violence points to a broader unacknowledged antisemitism reflected in Anti-Defamation League polls that find black Americans are significantly more likely than white Americans to accept antisemitic stereotypes I'd like to add to the clip list for a second. Because it was fun to hear, because I remember it, Jesse Jackson referring to Jaime's. Right? Because I remember that outrage vaguely in my memory but I certainly remember it around that same era there was another outrage now not by a black entertainer or by a white entertainer Marlon Brando

1:13:43 You may not remember this. No, I don't. Marlon Brando was really against the Academy he hated the whole movie business recently He was in the news because He had what at the time was supposed to be some Native American Indian girl accept the award on his behalf and you know she she could barely speak English. Thank you, turns out She was Mexican right? She just died recently and so this family came out and said oh by the way that was fake But anyway, so it was white Marlon Brando literally saying the Jews control Hollywood. Now listen to Norm Macdonald, rest in peace of course a white comedian and how this I mean there's a lot of layers to this so it's just 40 seconds but it's why you hear it last week on Larry King live Marlon Brando made these shocking statement that Hollywood is quote run by Jews In response outraged Jewish organizations made its snow in New York in April

1:14:51 Well, earlier this week actor Marlon Brando met with Jewish leaders to apologize for comments he made on Larry King Live. Among them that quote Hollywood is run by Jews the Jewish leaders accepted the actors apology and announced that Brando is now free to work again See the difference in response? Yes And well since you're bringing up Clips, I don't have the clip but i saw it before. I was coming on the show They found tape of charlamagne to god basically saying the same thing oh Not charlemagne and this is this Is what? This is why kanye's a problem he's building offense so high that for fence sitters if you fall off of it You're gonna break your neck there's no but There's No more fencing and It's not about who Who's on both side defense it's About us

1:15:51 you're not gonna be able to play both sides. As my man E-Class stated, and it was in the wire like, Stringer Bales playing too many away games. You know what I'm saying? There's gonna be no more away games as far as Charlemagne taught one way he taught black when he around black people but then he goes in the air and talks another way, he talks blue. You see what I'm saying is like, No! Or you gotta talk what's best for us at all times And isn't it good for everybody else? I mean, everybody else have these insular tribal behaviors. Why is it all of a sudden when we want to get tribal there's a problem? You know Adolfs were called black- Russian bots for wanting to be tribal and they were scared back into the hole

1:16:39 They always do this like, get back in your hole. You know? That's whatever talk it is that's anti-immigrant. You're the black MAGA and it kind of scares and spooks them off. But what... Go ahead. And who saying that? Who saying to get back in your hole? The media, who cuts Joye Ann Reed's check? Right. The black body. Who cuts her check to say we are Russian bots that inform that narrative and just to make one more point since you're saying talk about the Academy right quick We listened to the Will Smith show and they had no problem saying Hollywood is too white and too male

1:17:24 Nobody batted an eye. Right, but what you know? What's the subsegment in that white and male quote-unquote You know it was convenient to you know say that but then it's like if you say Hollywood is too Jewish and male Oh my god, you understand we cussing our pearls And it's just a why is it But I like said the WAF set it up that way they had to have a group you know that they could you know Can trust to control the media And even, you know what I'm saying? Even that. I mean yes, I mean that's the setup we always got to go back to who they are and even in this case is they are not Jewish people because I must say this and it might be inflammatory as far as my perception the Jewish existence is very fragile. It's not a coincidence Israel surrounded by Muslim countries

1:18:24 In fact, that iron dome can go away anytime. In fact God says we need to pray for Israel you see what I'm saying like that's the pressure point they have on them is that their iron dome just like how used had to come and beg for HBCU every four years they got a coming back for defense funds every four years This system, China's system is something else. And it has hierarchies? That's the quote right there! This system is something else yeah they've been building it for a couple generations It's pretty solid it's not gonna go away overnight either although we're seeing some chinks in the armor sorry for the racial overtone We're seeing some cracks in the walls There you go Yeah So those cracks being that

1:19:18 You have the independent media is pointing these things out and the way information being shared. You can find clips of Charlamagne Tha God saying things, you know? You can find those Marlon Brando clips and share them. You can have memes that inspire people's thoughts uh...and make them see contradictions and hypocrisy We've never we've never been here before if I before if I wanted to show you all this information, I would have to dig up books You know saying stacks and stacks the books. Yes, you know and say oh and in this book on this page This is what it said Okay, so I just want to say something mm-hmm because I need to put into your head okay Elon Musk is no different than

1:20:08 And he's being seen as a savior right now. I'm not saying by you, but by a lot of people and right now we're getting... Oh look at that! You know? Now i can post Democrats eat babies and I can post anything I want nothing is happening It's a trick it's a ruse and uh and he's trying to draw everybody in and everyone will have to register their identity with Twitter And that's when it'll be over but people won't realize how over it will be. So the sooner people start looking at real alternatives, the better because the Elon Musk Twitter thing in my opinion is a trap. I've said that from day one it's starting to play out You have been consistent on this point and I don't disagree with that Okay so let me share something with you Pass it on to the black and brown community Mo Let me share something with... Black and Brown Let me share something with you Please Is that

1:21:11 We're going to test the limits. There's a golden window here, no doubt about it! A golden opportunity. Like I said we've been here before but this is the reason why they called us Russian bots and taking that shadow banning off and people were hitting me up saying I can see your tweets again. We're gonna test it see how far we could push it because we got midterms about to end now and then we'll go full swing into 2024 And we're not when I say we it's not a collective group because you don't do groups It's the fact that I can pick up my smartphone like I did back in 2013-14 and keep these black stones to working. Oh, no, you know and believe me What is happening right now with Twitter? I am 100% convinced This is conservative money right wing thinking right wing ideas We're going to blow up the

1:22:07 the Democrats, we're gonna remove the groomers. There's no doubt about it becoming the dominant force in the American Congress and possibly in two years in the American presidency is worth a lot of money to a lot of people so this is a big ass move and Elon is just a character in the whole game It's a big big move And so I'm just saying You know, be careful what you wish for because it's not like one party is better than the other necessarily. Certainly not when they get into power and we still... Right! We're clear on this but the asking price is the same. But we still need to develop our own systems and our own networks away from any control whether it's a bunch of Russian ex-Russians whether it's some crazy China loving guy or whether its China

1:23:04 We got to get away from all of that and we can so that's my message amongst all of this is don't get all jacked up because it ain't going to be that pretty in the end with this system either. And I have, by design kind of stopped the lost tapes on the black Twitter episode with Elon Musk which yeah...I always talk about the apparatus has been built already who's gonna be in control of it? Yeah It ain't gonna be as pretty when the conservatives are in control of it. No, no it's going to be 1950s. You know that censorship went on? Well you don't know but people just get corrupted and maybe great for a year or two or 20 but people get corrupted. The system... With ideology! It's ideology. But this is money. I'm gonna disagree.

1:24:02 Fuck ideology. At the end of the day, it's money that drives the entertainment business to do things It's money that drives banks to do things All the banks put together could supply Israel with all the money they need To buy or build their own Iron Dome They're not doing it because its bad business So they're not allowed to. It's all money and... Let me be clear, they're not allowed to! Correct. And this is where we get to the... Because then you make Jewish people autonomous No, no. We gotta have them come back and beg every four years so they can keep their iron dome over their head and keep their safety. It's the same thing with Black Lives Matter or whatever else it's like you're gonna come back we're gonna promise you something things are gonna get better and see us in four years it's the same thing So I just want to make that clear but this is the interview I've been waiting on

1:24:58 And this is that you, you mentioned it previously. I watched the whole thing and watch the whole thing. It's a very interesting interview because Kya understood he was there to be handled in my perspective from my perspective, my own perspective, because when he came in there, he came into like a six year old kid Go on to the principal's guidance counselor. No, God is counselor like Kanye tell me why you're sad You know that kind of thing and he even played it too. He got the little piece of paper in the pen You know writing stuff down Right and like drawing stuff Like oh where they touch you Kanye yeah That kinda thing you don't say he played into that but by the time he left there Once he figured out what footing was on It switched up and I'm not gonna spoil it for people but we're gonna get into this clips now

1:25:52 So this is the first clip with him and Lex. Let's get into part one. In Nazi Germany, science was used to create atrocities engineering the same engineering could be a tool of war we're still in the Holocaust A friend, a Jewish friend of mine said come go visit the Holocaust Museum And my response was let's visit our Holocaust Museum Planned Parenthood With all due respect, I grew up in the Soviet Union. I'm Jewish parts of my family perished in the Holocaust of Nazi Germany. I have to push back that there is a difference of the atrocities at that scale at that time on an entire people's gonna say the number That's the difference? It's not the number. Yep. So he triggered

1:26:58 Lex with the a trigger a lot of people with this Planned Parenthood is our Holocaust. Mm-hmm And if we're just talking about any goal population control Genocide it is what it is I mean when we talked about the eugenics and things like that, you know So well This is also very embarrassing chapter which stems from not to in the not too distant future past American history, which of course is obfuscated but which can be argued was very influential on Hitler himself with his own eugenics eugenicist ideas and practices. Right so but when you talk about the Holocaust that's kind of trademarked? Oh definitely as their

1:27:53 It's a brand. As their plight, I mean as their plight this is our specifically and just to be 100% fair you have the same thing when you talk about slavery because one of the comebacks when we start talking about slavery is we all were slaves at some point and it's very demeaning to say that um...to black people to say, okay we all were slaves. Here's the thing that kind of got me is because I would imagine maybe not but i would imagine Kanye has family members in his family lineage back to slavery who were slaves whipped beaten killed right? But when Lex Fridman says it he says I have family members who died in the holocaust Lex wasn't around when that happened

1:28:50 Right. You know, and I just think that would have been a good one for Kanye to come back with like oh well Let me show you my family tree. Let me show you what happened to them, but as you pointed out earlier 400 years ago versus 80 years ago Right nine years again Yeah And and there's no really I mean you have a lot of imagery from the Holocaust due to technology Recordings we got some good trauma-based entertainment that Hollywood is produced for the that's why they have to met That's why they had two manufacturers That's the whole point is that we have we don't have the footage So we have to manufacture it they keep these people under mind control on a trauma-based mind control but I can just in all fairness because Matt Walsh and What's the guy named from black guns Matt Modge? Trey had a Twitter beef And not as part of a lost tape that We recently did I kind of took out because in just half time Tom Ford

1:29:49 But Matt Walsh did that we are all were slaves and modules like you're making it hard for us and us he saw my black conservatives to Communicate the black people about being conservative when you make statements like this. Mm-hmm You see what I'm saying? Because yeah, we understand there was Roman slaves not our slaves but We're talking about this American slavery here, this system and the impacts of it. And we're still seeing it to this day is the reason why Planned Parenthood is located where its located in their messaging is targeted way it is because he wants to get rid of black people. You could say that's real you can say well they want to get rid all poor people true

1:30:36 But we're talking about the numbers. You said that look like Kali was saying we're talking about the numbers half Seriously half That's crazy Right, and so I'm just gonna say it like that And then I'm sure you heard this clip but we got to get into it how Stacey Abrams a black woman Goes on to MSNBC and try to sell reproductive rights as an economic issue. Abortion is an economic issue, it's been reduced to this idea of a culture war but for women in Georgia this is very much a question of whether they're going to end up in poverty and the next five years because women who are forced to carry unwanted pregnancies end up in poverty within five... They're four times more likely to be impoverished in five years they're twice as likely to be on food stamps This is an economic issue and its being reduced to this culture conversation

1:31:28 So, Miss Abrams, back to the root of Joe's question that he just asked you. You're running for governor of Georgia I would assume maybe incorrectly but while abortion is an issue it nowhere reaches the level of interest of voters in terms of the cost of gas food, bread milk things like that. What can a governor what could you do as governor to alleviate the concerns of Georgia voters about those livability daily hourly issues that they're confronted with? But let's be clear, having children is why you're worried about your price for gas. It's why you're concerned about how much food costs for women this is not a reductive issue You can't divorce being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy from the economic realities of having a child and so these are it's important for us to have both end conversations we don't have the luxury of reducing it or separating them out

1:32:27 He's literally inhumane. That's the same argument Janet Yellen made, our Treasury Secretary. Right! The economic argument... And then you look at that through the lens of the racial wealth gap It's like, oh you don't want to be poor. You know what you gotta do? And Joe Scarborough asked a question which I didn't play before and then the other guy alluded it like he was trying to get her back on the rails. Like hold on we won't say that part out loud! Don't put it that way but that's the way it is

1:33:05 And when you're in a vulnerable situation with money, inflation the way it is and your money not what it used to be. You didn't have any money at first of all but then exacerbate the issue with inflation A lot of people having to make a lot of tough decisions I think with inflation the way it is if your kid is under five he should be able to get rid of it Just kill that kid this drain on my wallet You said that in jest? No, this is where the thinking is. They literally they were at two because Melissa Harris Perry they were making that case of like oh it's 2 and under Oh man! That's what I'm saying you say that in jest but... That's no good So that's what we're looking at

1:33:57 When you put all this together and I could, that's why I'm happy you said what you said. That having this conversation with me your at least had an understanding of okay that how it is taken when you have her come out say this and you know who are target demographic is? And why she was selected to be the candidate because she's female black you know sure So that's... I remember the former New York banker years ago he said Stacey Abrams she sees the rising star. Now whether he believes in it or not, he was telling me she was the rising star with this before the first Georgia election

1:34:41 Until she ran into these black thumbs and it's Whoever they put up we knock them right back down. What's and now when I say we? Part of how I got into this shall, I tell you something yeah great because I want to talk don't talk to you Tell you something how interesting just realized You almost never show up on my timeline Until yesterday, I'm telling you. Yesterday you showed up with your black thumbs, Black Thumbs Matter and uh... And I understood what you were saying now it's much... So i was already aware of this but the whole point that I in fact saw one of your tweets is quite astounding

1:35:26 And that's all we're asking for. That's all, because I remember the Wild Wild West, you know pre-2016 And when that happened to Hillary, they were like oh no lock it down. We don't have the we don't have the hive mind of black people You know, we don't have the high monitor you fill in the blank I mean whatever it is I mean used to be scared to say stuff about trans people, you know That kind of thing but it's why not us? I'm saying like the collective like it was kind of like Oh, you know that you know that just let them be them that kind of thing but When you start talking about children, it's like whoa. Whoa that's going too far just like with abortion It's like if that's your personal choice I might not agree with but then you have it being pushed as a solution Like whoa well, I'm like this is the Extremeness of the situation that causes people to push back and all I think we could do is get out get our thumbs the movie It'll be very interesting to see how If you look at this in the light of all these different industries

1:36:27 Really worried. I think they're really worried in a way, you know look here Here's I'm gonna tell you what the Kanye has to do next Kanye is gonna say You can only pay me in Bitcoin that'll be smart dude Dude, but we'd have to surround him to protect him because that's a coin. No, I can't yeah, I mean just knowing me do a yay coin no Just to be fair, I mean he has an ego which I mean you gotta have an ego didn't make it sure Sometimes you got if people say yay put your ego aside and if you don't do if you're thinking of doing a yay coin Don't

1:37:12 Man, we got ranchers doing Bitcoin now because they can reach an audience that wants to listen and have a conversation. It's more than money it's it's a vibe its people who want to trust each other And as just a preview to a future show cuz you brought up Kanye talking about the eating habits of people there was so much I could put into this show in this... Oh no kidding But remember when people used to laugh about food deserts? I never laughed about it. No, just saying like when you said that oh who can't find something to eat? I mean a food there You know that kind of thing yeah That's really right now we're all living in the food desert. That's right So just pay attention tonight when these things are brought up But let's go ahead and get back to Lex and we're not going to part three

1:37:57 That's what we deal with on our TVs. Right now, black people... Soros would use black trauma economy to win an election. What I love is having a healthy conversation as opposed to the certain things you know boom this drops people gonna have pussy hats on. Boom! This drops it's gonna be black people and white people with signs. Boom this drops so hey China Hey, left agenda. Hey what we're gonna do is say that our species can have a healthy conversation Do you it's can I just linger on this because when you say Jewish media? It there's an echo of a pain that people feel That reminds you you saying is redundant right and

1:38:45 Huh? No, I'm not saying it's redundant. I was saying redundant. You're saying is redundant. That was pretty funny. Pretty funny. No, but Sam, that's the triggering. So that's why I said he started out as the give me a piece of paper and I'm just gonna draw on it. And you understand this what he understood Oh your head again apology Yeah And they picked Lex for a reason. I don't know Lex, it's nothing personal against him but he is from Chicago He is into music You know that kind of thing like who could we get? Who would Kanye respect? He was the perfect guy That was why three years ago he was the most anticipated interview and that what I was waiting on to see who were they going to send you know To sit down and get that apology from Ye

1:39:35 Like a real apology, not no you know what I'm saying like I'm sorry if I offended. You know that kind of apology non-apology what people call it? Because that's kinda what it was he was apologizing to people that he didn't offend or shouldn't have been offended but the people he was meaning to defend he didn't apologize them and that's kinda what Lex was sent there to do get that apology. There is an echo of pain that people feel that reminds... You're saying its redundant right No, I'm not saying it's redundant. You're saying it's redundant? It is a redundancy! I am saying that it something Joseph Goebbels the propaganda minister of Nazi Germany said. I was saying has been said so many times in order to murder and torture

1:40:24 Jewish people that I would just rings wrong and and that's it just like the n-word when spoken by People that have the same skin color as me. It reminds people of a very dark time Since he's a student of history I would hope that Lex when he's discussing the Nazi propaganda minister would pronounce his name correctly, which is Goebbels. There's no R in Goebbels Always makes that a very weak point and in my opinion if you don't know the guy's name had no are in it Except for Heinrich, I think Goebbels then you don't really know everything

1:41:05 It's the mean it's weak. Yes, I mean yes with me That's that's the meme is just like use though that name out there Yeah And then he also tried to trigger Kanye back like with the n-word trigger yeah Like you know yeah, no that was a that was a key part of the interview. I totally agree I love him right is like you oh you're pissed off because it's redundant That's not a dumb guy by the way professor Galloway That's not a guy who is having a mental health crisis? That's a guy who knows exactly what he's saying cuz you know What because I hope people are gonna watch it because it's the nonverbal cues. That's there and

1:41:42 Like he would say, I think he said that. He would get this big ass eating grin across his face like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw it. Yeah like you know what I'm saying? You're not here to handle me and it kind of turned into a conversation rather than an interview because Kanye would end his statements with questions coming back so I mean he was the most disrespectful thing to say is Kanye's crazy. Yep well that's what most most would say And its..and imma show you The hypocrisy. Did you know Beyonce had to recall her album? Yes, because it had the word spaz on it Yeah of course which we've been using spazz in our community for no we're gonna spaz out and say whatever

1:42:27 They made her recall and re-recorded because it had that one word on it. So you see the power of they, but then they can say yeah he's crazy! He's crazy everybody is crazy he's a madman and thats okay what about his mental health rights? What about his protections as being part of a protected group of you know mental health? See that goes right out the window. Of course So I just want to point that out. No, you're not telling me anything new Moe This is yeah It's exactly like why could this person say that on Twitter and this person can't say that on Twitter? It's all bias it's all they its all boule phones Absolutely so now we're gonna go to this

1:43:13 A set of clips I have and this is from the Jewish Community Center of San Francisco. They have a panel of three Jewish people from the media, and they talk about Jews money in the media so let's go ahead get into part one One place in which it gets tricky though is that in the structure of the American political system, there's sort of a fine line between philanthropy and influence peddling. I live in Washington DC been living and working there for a decade of non-profit organizations in Washington that I'm not sure you would necessarily call charities in a traditional sense. They're advocacy groups, they're trade associations and then of course there's political campaigns with all different tax statuses but Jewish people are very disproportionate share of a lot of that money

1:44:02 comes into the political system, it comes in on different sides. We were talking about Shel Nadelson who was a huge donor on the Republican side but Democrats get a huge amount of their money really from Jewish donors because Jews tend to be Democrats. Jews are more affluent than many of the people in the Democratic Party, but that I think most people think of political giving as it's often looked askance at but the people who do it they like to think of themselves being very high-minded and its not something that you always know exactly how to discuss in a right way It's not always obvious what is really going on when people give in that way

1:44:44 Kind of dancing around it. Yeah, so this reason why I play that clip we talked about Soros and his influence with money And he has democratic viewpoint so which is now Which is now is kind of a since the recalls in San Francisco In California in general It's now a little more accepted to say Soros is buying these crappy people At least that part, that part. I still think it's viewed as anti-semitic you know? I mean i think not from my viewpoint but... Oh no when you say it yeah! You see what im saying? But if your democrat and you say it is not anti-semitic Say that again If your a democrat and you say it which is what people were saying in San Francisco recalling the

1:45:33 the Attorney General, the State's attorney... District attorney I'm sorry who was you know just letting criminals out. They were saying hey this guy was put in by Soros! It was Democrats saying that and Democrats recalled it and i didn't hear any talk of anti-semitism there when they brought up Soros so that's just another interesting point It's the same way as Joe Biden could say you ain't black and you don't vote for me. You know, it is this fluid kind of who can say what and when kinda situation that no we're gonna hold you responsible. And I think everybody is getting like that because if you live in that lie That's the center of mind control where you can see two things are the same

1:46:23 and say they're different. And I think people are past that, you know? People saw it with the vaccine it's like no... That's crazy! You know paper mask you know that kind of thing like what?! Like why we still doing that but you know I'm just showing how things can be fluid and but at least only dismantle what they are trying to push. That's their Achilles heel It's hypocrisy. Because they have to lie and be hypocrites for their system even to work

1:47:00 So, let's go ahead and get to part two of this. Very interesting George Soros who might be thought of as equivalent on the left is steadfastly disdained giving to media gives to universities he gives to human rights organizations He gives to electoral reform so on drug reform all kinds of causes stays strictly away from media But it's the same if you think of say, The New York Times is not a charity. But at the same time it's a family controlled business. It's a Jewish family I think that general understanding among everyone is that they could sell it out and make more money than they make owning it but its seen as trust some kind of public

1:47:48 service and a public responsibility that they're doing, and it's in some ways it's an act of charity. I mean, it's probably the greatest newspaper in the world that does invaluable stuff but is also way becoming players and influential people in the American scene. And you can't de-link charitable influences from a desire for a certain kind of social power. More than, yeah. So this is kind of where I see maybe Kanye's trying to be his own Soros kind of thing? You know... That could be. Using his money and influence you know to back people like Candace Owens

1:48:38 You know, which obviously I mean he wrote the check for parlor. Which like you said i don't see what the benefit is as far as well the more I think about what you you know that what you clued me into uh there's probably no cash it was probably a a um you know value for value look i'm gonna be yay and put my name on this thing uh hey you're gonna do the back-end technology and will split revenue somehow, but they're definitely going to solidify Parliament as a provider so they could white label other social networks for other people. I think that's the business they want to be in. So i don't think there was any money that changed hands it was probably a straight up stock deal or you know... It's probably papered! I hope it is and I hope Ye got what he wanted

1:49:24 And a telltale sign we can see is if cuz Kanye say he saw parlor. He really likes Instagram So we see probably go more towards the Instagram kind of format Yeah, which is really not set up to be and you really can't do okay? Are you you will be the subject matter expert compared to me on this well anything can be done But yeah, I mean turning parlor into Into a picture and video site it's a whole different interface experience. Anything's possible, anything is possible. Well the reason what I would take from that is being meme friendly because I see even Twitter went to this multiple images kind of thing where you could post mixed formatting like you post a video with it so its more of that of... Instagram is very powerful as far as getting a message across

1:50:23 An image you know it's that thousand words thing where I can know images artificial intelligence also can't identify the meaning of an image easily Correct, so I think I would say more just being mean friendly That would be think that's where social media is really going because people hate text walls. I mean that's a I'm one of those people if i see a text wall, I'm not I'm Disengaging what do you mean? A text wall that's like a long paragraph. Hmm No, give it like a goldfish out here. You know they're like give me what you saying while you're saying it and that's the way our brain has been shaped Yes This is why tik-tok is eating everybody's lunch Exactly exactly because this more is Condensing the condensed to the one where it's like pure crack It's like here, you know saying I get your head and keep moving. Oh, yeah. Yeah

1:51:21 And funny that you brought it up there tick-tock didn't ban Kanye could because the Chinese see a benefit in it and he spoke against China the Chinese government So I just found out that funny that in the previous clip we played it tick-tock was one of people that had um, Banned him yet. So I just wanted to bring that point up while we're talking about TikTok I hadn't realized that and then I'll tell you that that's not something The American media will tell you because they're all afraid of tik-tok They don't want anyone to know yay still on there But of course he is not really using it never been on it. I have a tick-tock. I mean, oh anything come new I'll sign up

1:52:00 I even got a new parlor account, you know. So... I mean always want to secure the name just in case whatever pops up pops off So now we're going to go into 13, I believe. Now they're gonna get into a hot button issue. I know if Jewish people would accept that I'm Jew then they would see what I'm saying in a different way They would hear it in different ways But see the people you saying you're Jewish No! I'm Jew not Jewish. Jewish means like that of a Jew. I'm saying I'm Jew You're Jew Blood of Christ Orthodox Christian That comes from... Right but are you

1:52:40 Are you a follower of the philosophy of the black Hebrew Israelites? Because that's where the idea comes from. Not all of those folks are extremists, but some are extremists." Yeah now we get into another area that is poorly understood. This is a big unspoken issue between blacks—some blacks and some Jewish people on No, who is Jewish? Who is Jew and Kanye was triggering even more. Like I said, I got to call a spade a spade you know what I'm saying as far as... Kanye came into this interview very-to be very triggering and like he said when he said no I'm Jew. Jewish is you trying to basically be like me so he was probably say either he's completely out of his mind which it could be well I don't know him

1:53:37 Or it's I'm gonna see how far and this is what got him banned It wasn't even the drink champs challenge to adidas. It was when this dropped, I believe if my timeline is correct cuz like he was To say I'm doing you're Jewish now How does he mean that because I'm sure the next clip will explain it But I mean do you want to split you want to listen first? You tell me so from I'm going to give you just a loose interpretation of how this goes. If you say black people were the first people on earth, right?

1:54:15 That's kind of everybody out Africa, you know kind of thing You don't say it all started there and that's what kind of science tell the science. You know trust the science That's what tells us yeah, you know area we know thats no the first people were black Maybe I don't know. I mean that that is definitely an accepted idea Yeah right if we're gonna go by that idea then How can Adam and Eve not be black? Yeah, exactly. And if that's the case then wouldn't that make the Jewish people or Jews black? You see what I'm saying? Of course! If you want to have it both ways... If you wanna have your science then you gotta have this with it Is Adam or Eve a popular name for Black kids?

1:55:04 No. Exactly. I don't know a black Adam, I know a rapper named Eve but that's about it but... I'm just telling you that's what very boiled down... Of course if you're going to use science and say we all come from Africa so were all black then of course the story breaks down So that's where this goes and then Lex triggers him by lumping him in as with a perceived terrorist group. Now we gotta go back and see are black people accepted as Jewish? And I got this from i24 news, and this is Rabbi Mordecai Ben Abraham. Abraham excuse me! And they brought him on to speak about Kanye and black people being Jews or whatnot. We don't have to play all of these but I just want to see how... i24 stands for Israel 24

1:56:01 They brought this black rabbi on and he's gonna speak on black people being Jewish. Rabbi Mordechai Yosef Ben Avraham, a former music producer from LA turned rabbi and the author of the book Mind of The Black Jew joins us now in studio. What a biography! I want to ask you more about yourself not about Kanye West but I will ask both of you are you a fan of Kanye West as an artist? You know, Kanye is probably one of the great creative minds of our generation revolutionized the sound of music, how it's presented and he's done an amazing job merging fashion and music together. And so he is a phenomenal entertainer or creative. Now you've been in the music industry in LA as I mentioned have you in those years when you worked there

1:56:54 heard anything from Kanye West, from the people around him? From people in the industry. Anything about against Jews any anti-Semitic remarks or anything or is it just these bursts of the last couple years yeah I don't know i mean the music industry especially from um the urban perspective African American Jews and black people work very close together And so there isn't really such an anti-Semitic tone. I mean, there have been people who have said things like Nick Cannon and there were people even before that made statements but i don't think the anti-semitism or...I don't know if there's a such an education about the severity of these terms because they're such a close relationship in proximity between blacks and Jews even historically in America in general

1:57:47 The guy's head go, what? So yeah But you see he's going to the golden era. Mm-hmm Not to the modern era because even I think the ADL was saying old black people more susceptible to anti-semitism Even white people also come from them music business Correct we can't let that be missed on us either so i'm just so this up left play that clip Just to show you where he's coming from the golden era and I think he lives in Israel so Gotta be careful what kind of high he carries. I would say so yeah, you almost massage showing up at your door You're saying re-education Re-educating you so uh Let's go into 13b now i'm sure you've seen these tweets maybe not over the weekend but after How did that make you feel? I was hurt. I was um, I was very hurt. I was very disappointed And I think it's a opportunity

1:58:44 instead of just condemning Kanye West, because those statements should be condemned. They're not proper statements for anybody to make such things but it's also an opportunity to discuss the lack of Jewish diversity that is being presented by the Jewish community in the world Because anytime you make these statements... It's not just that he said going Def Con 3 He also made statements about black people being real Jews and these types of things And these things are detrimental for Jews of color, like myself and the collective Jewish community as a whole. And it goes against the narrative of the Torah So I feel like these moments are times where we should utilize this opportunity to educate Like i've been living in Israel for seven years now

1:59:27 and the diversity here is almost exactly like California, Los Angeles specifically. But everyone here's Jewish so but the world doesn't see that and I think the more we take that accountability to educate the world on the beautiful diversity of our people, the less these types of statements will be made. So i played that clip yeah up i'll play that clip to say okay Lex This man says Israel looks like LA. So why is it so jarring for Kanye to say, why'd you go to the black Hebrew Israelites? Why did you go to this subset of the group and it's seen as a terrorist group by many because of their actions let's be clear he standing on the corner yelling at people

2:00:16 That's the that's what a lot the same. I'm gonna take it like this the same way that White Judaism is portrayed as white where Judy Judaism is portrayed as white Black Hebrews are portrayed as hateful people standing on the corner Yelling nasty things at people in America because an Israel black Jews are everywhere Right, but what's the imagery that's allowed to be circulated? And I find it YouTube doesn't never take these videos down. You know we always talk about hate speech which you always find a video of a black Israelite standing on the corner yelling at somebody very nasty things and isn't it interesting if you look at the high school kids

2:01:05 with the indigenous veteran who was yelling at them. The black Israelites were involved in that as well, and in fact they kind of got blamed for it ultimately. Correct so I think there are useful tools to paint this image of hate, hate. Anybody that said they're black and Jew is a hater. It's a hate monger you know that kind of thing and I think it was very low-hanging for him to do this in my opinion because this guy...I've never been to Israel so i can't tell you but obviously seems like a diverse place yeah I mean why would you go there? In the Bible the Israelites were kind of a pain in the ass though

2:01:50 Okay, I mean yeah. I'm just saying it's coming with history You know it's like and for people who really haven't studied things you know It's easy to draw conclusions It's just so much out there And the other thing is I didn't want to really get in the biblical sense of it But like I said this morning that I did a very two-minute condensed what their crux of the problem Is its? You know we can go you know it Versus and when you line up what the Israelites suffered in that kind of thing it very very Similar to what quote-unquote black people have suffered in America, so I'm just gonna leave it at there like I said, I've just

2:02:30 Showing you where the there actually are black Jewish people sure that are not Hebrew Israelites, you know so right I thought that really to be honest with you that triggered me is Because it's like why'd you and I saw this Ben Shapiro did the same thing going straight to the black? Hebrew Israelite thing It's low-hanging fruit in my in my perspective I agree, and i think because of...I mean I always knew there were black Jews certainly in Israel. I think we talked about it on a show somewhere Yeah we've touched on this the imagery of the Black Hebrew Israelites are couple shows because I saw where was going but let's go ahead and get into 13C

2:03:20 What do you make of that short suspension? I mean, so much of what's happening in the public sphere takes place in today's public square which is Twitter Instagram Facebook etc. The social media platforms... What do you make of this short suspension of the accounts does it do anything You know, a lot of the monetization of content is coming through social media. And I'm actually very pleased with the fact that a lot of these companies are taking the initiative to say hey you know what we're not going allow hate speech to be on our platform. We're not gonna allow things that are gonna trigger people and upset them

2:04:07 you know, put out at the behest of a person's emotional state. Yeah but if they suspend the account for just a few hours or a day is that enough to actually make people think twice before they post again? People like Kanye West probably not smaller people who are more like media influencers yes Okay. What do you expect the music industry in the United States to do? I mean, we've heard that brands across the United States... Adidas is considering not renewing the contract with him other brands have done the same in recent months Do you expect the music industry to do anything? They are controlled by the Jews aren't they? Neither Spotify nor Apple has de-platformed any of Kanye's music

2:04:56 Because it didn't happen on their platform and see they got Spotify especially the way they handle the Rogan situation if you bang Kanye Then it look hypocritical. Oh, yeah totally totally so that everybody Everybody's like saying how far do I need to go? Not to be in line with Kanye but not to piss off two people on my platform to leave So, I mean that's a thing but what what I found really And this clip is the end when he says they are controlled by Jews. Now, this is a I-24 newscaster. So he doesn't actually believe that what he's doing is lobbing this up for the rabbi to slam on home. Right?

2:05:46 Play the end of that, if you could and then go right into 13E if you can. I might have did it already but I just want to make sure we hear how he lobbed that up this very... If anybody else said that would be anti-Semitic What do you expect the music industry in the United States to do? I mean, we've heard that brands across the United States... Adidas is considering not renewing the contract with him. Other brands have done the same in recent months Do you expect the music industry to do anything? They are controlled by the Jews aren't they?

2:06:26 Is the answer on 13E or D? No, excuse me. It's on E The answer is on E Do you expect the music industry to do anything I mean they are controlled by the Jews aren't they You know, I don't know if it's controlled by the Jews. That is a statement that people make these anti-Semitic statements saying oh Jews control the media If that was the case Israel would have the best publicity in the world and that is not the case at all Israel does the smallest infraction different dynamics and the whole world jumps on them so we use this as proof that we do not control the media but I will say again there is an education process that needs to happen

2:07:04 comes in the frame of diversity and providing education curriculum and courses for universities showing the diversity and making it a mainstream understanding that we have Chinese Jews, Indian Jews African Jews European Jews Arab Jews. We have every type of Jew from every part of the world exist and the world needs to see that once they see that it will really do a lot of the anti-Semitism that we're seeing. Rabbi Mordechai Yosef Ben Avraham, thank you very much for coming into our studio today. Now did he somehow say it's only the American Jews? Is that what he was somehow saying? I think he was just saying his—the talking lines that, you know, they have,

2:07:51 Israel does you know every time they usually do something is just blasted across the you know the world which I don't know weak argument honestly that's pretty right but he went to his talking points and even the guy set him up yeah His talking point and then he even said all you have an interesting background was taught to boring about that later, but shame We're out of time rabbi. That's right You just came here to do we can't had you had you to do well That's what the media does answer the question the way we want you too And then you can move on And these are the tactics that everybody sees now. It's in whoever is in control, we see it. That's the point is like you've lost your magic and it doesn't work anymore. Now we're going to go into since he said everything Israel does is highlighted this negative way which we know I mean even what's your girl name of the squad? AOC

2:08:52 No, the other one. Jaya Paul... The one from Ethiopia I believe. Oh yeah who married her brother? Yeah her! Remember she had to apologize when you're on oh, yeah anytime somebody's a lot. You know, you'll ha Omar any time anybody even in Democrats or pro-palestine There your sin their demon eyes, you know, like all the way that's kind of dangerous thinking there right? Oh We can't act like this doesn't happen Even on the Democrats like they had to wrangle day and no rain there people in so we're not gonna play that game but Donald Sterling

2:09:30 He he I think this is why he got canceled because They had to get rid of him because some of the admissions that he made and who was Donald Sterling again? He was the owner of the LA Clippers. Oh, yeah Yes, yes, okay. He didn't get cancelled because of his you know The black player stuff he probably could have stayed around but when he made the statements about how no Jewish people deal with each other with interest-free loans and this other ditty that I'm gonna play next. Immediate after that, that's when he got canceled and this is from show 59 of People Don't Know Restoring Justice so we can get into it. Do you think i'm a racist? I don't think you're a racist Yes you do

2:10:14 I think you... Evil heart. I don't think so, I think you have an amazing heart honey! I think the people around you have a poisoned mind and have a way of thinking It's the world You go to Israel The blacks are... That was wasn't that his much younger wife? No, that was his girlfriend. A girlfriend? Yeah a girlfriend but she's like 80 and she's 20. Be Stefani or something. I remember this yeah. Poisoned woman. Poisoned girlfriend. And have a way of thinking... It's the world! You go to Israel the blacks are just treated like dogs So do you have to treat them like that too? The white Jews there is white Jews and black Jews Do you understand? Are the black Jews less than the white Jews? 100% 50%.

2:11:05 It is the question. We don't evaluate what's right and wrong, we live in a society! We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture But shouldn't we take a stand for what's wrong? And be the change and difference I don't want to change the culture because I can't it's too big... You can change yourself If my girl can do what I want then I don't want her I'll find a girl that will do what I want. This was great, I remember this. That's bad PR! It is very bad PR. And they brought the cancel cannon out for him and when that part of the tape dropped it was over because you can't have a Jewish man admitting that black Jews are treated like dogs 150% and that's just the way it is and that's the way its gonna be

2:12:02 Especially when you play your players a majority black, you know that's just not gonna happen Hey your business partners and saying are in a large percentage or Jewish So I did he was he had to go and they got rid of him But he got three billion dollars for his team. I mean like so on a 250 million dollar investment Okay Poor Don. So let's go ahead now we're going to get to the Black Hebrew, Black Hebrew Israelites so this is from New Jersey news station PIX11 and they're gonna cover the before mentioned shooting that happened in New Jersey that was a real form of anti-semitism that I think was

2:12:51 highlighted to traumatize Jewish people. You see the chilling moments unfold in surveillance video, the suspects park a stolen U-Haul van get out with rifles and begin shooting David Lacks is seen running from the kosher market. The way they looked at me, the way they started shooting, where did it came in? They came to kill Inside the store bullet holes and shattered glass from this hours long shootout with police I saw the ULTRA coming in and two people came out with black coats, long coats. And they ran directly into the supermarket, Jewish kosher supermarket and they started shooting

2:13:32 This man parked across the street hiding and praying for his life as three innocent people were gunned down. The store owner's wife, a customer and a worker these are the two authorities say were behind the bloodshed identified is 47 year old David Anderson and 50 year old Francine Graham We know that there was significant speculation about the shooters motives We're not in a position at this time to say definitively why the suspects decided to stop in front of the supermarket and began firing immediately. But as investigators dive into the shooter's social media, the Jersey City mayor believes he knows the reason we know that they posted favorable sentiment on social media towards anti-semitic groups who live in a time where it's important to call out hate for what it is. A pipe bomb was also recovered from the scene

2:14:23 The FBI now examining evidence. Trying to think was there something else going because I remember this, was there something else going on at the time? There were several shoot it was another shooting. I think that guy ran into some Jewish people home around that same time and shot him. I think if I'm not memory surgery and then there was a big thing with like a couple of football Sean Jackson at the time he had posted some stuff that Hitler but There was a tribute to Hitler about the Jewish people. Yeah, there was a whole wave. The trauma is real! The trauma is real, but I found it weird U-Hauls and pipe bombs. We always hear about u-hauls and pipe bombs in these situations so we're going somewhere with this. That's what the FBI does they give feeble minded people uh u-hauls pipe bombs detonators that don't really work often but yeah this is that's the hallmark. A lot of these people get set up

2:15:25 That's the six-week cycle you talk about. So for people to think, oh, Moe your space jam reaching... We're going to go ahead and since you hadn't stole the thunder 15, let's go ahead and go into 50. No that's good because it speeds up a little bit we're gonna go into this other police informant fed informant that was allowed to run the police. I'm going to show you this is a picture of what happened in Detroit. Mayhem in Detroit just to show you these things do happen and he should have never been on the streets that is what Detroit Police chief James Craig is saying about the suspected serial killer accused of 6 murders this afternoon we're learning a lot more about Kenyal Brown's past.

2:16:07 Good afternoon. Yes, some new details should be coming very shortly on this case But the bottom line is this alleged serial killer was in federal custody Had a whole list of parole violations while he was out on a charge And now an agency allegedly is the one who told the Department of Justice to let him back out. But now we're learning Brown has a criminal history dating back to 1997 and should have been in prison, but a federal law enforcement agency asked he be let out that history includes assault with dangerous weapon fleeing police officers and multiple weapons charges

2:16:44 During his last arrest in 2014 for having a stolen 9mm handgun, he told police, "...I didn't even fire the gun. The only reason I have the mag is because it's crazy out here." During his sentencing it came out Brown was working as an informant After serving 14 months, Brown was let out but he failed drug tests didn't check in with drug counselors and was arrested for drunk driving while on probation. But he was let go! The Detroit News quoting a US District Court spokesman saying our court released Mr. Brown at the behest of a federal law enforcement agency we cannot elaborate further at this time

2:17:21 Detroit Police Chief James Craig told the newspaper, someone needs to explain to the families of Brown's victims why this guy was allowed to stay out of prison. I understand that he'd for informants but what was the information you provided worth six lives? Yeah, the FBI man... Pfft! What a mess! So just landed out there and then we saw what happened in Buffalo and then that guy did the shooting in Buffalo was in some chat group and all the other two people in it were people connected to the FBI. So, the point I'm trying to make is trauma is real even if it's not real but then when it becomes actual physical trauma like we see here or in Buffalo they whoever controls the media weaponizes that get people back into their mass formation. Absolutely and that's in all aspects with everything

2:18:17 Yeah, so when people hear like I don't poo-poo when a Jewish person say all that, you know what I'm saying? That hurt me or whatever. I can understand because they traumatize my people the same way with media. You see what I'm saying so I get it and it's like who is letting these nuts excuse me run around and stay out of jail to kill like this. That's the real culprits that's where we really need to look at. Like their supermarket shooting and there's another super market shooting. That's the other thing I didn't realize that myself. Like what, what is going on here? Yeah well no that's like we used to have people going postal remember that postal workers would literally go nuts and shoot a whole bunch of people usually themselves and kill the postal workers

2:19:08 Yeah, I mean like we could just keep going down the list. We're a trendy country man! We're just trendy. We like to keep going with the trends. I think these people are allowed to do what they do you know saying? To keep the mass trauma-based uh... The trauma based economy as Kanye called it going. You gotta keep them Stirred up and afraid so it's it's exactly It's a great tool if they're using it that way then is very effective. That's for sure you affected and keep people on edge, so With that said, let's go. That's the end of the first segment. Let's go ahead and thank some people First, the white man and black man have to be able to sit down at the same table The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro And so called negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of a white men Then they can bring issues under their rug out on top of the table and take intelligent approach To get problem solved That is only way they will ever do it

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2:30:31 Africans have always said, we've heard you listen to rap music and hear black people say we kings. We blood of the pharaohs and if we are Jew then we weren't! We were the people that Moses freed And when we talk about, have you heard black people talk about 400 years of slavery? All right. That is in rep and we're having this history lesson, right? History doesn't matter. You're exploring ancient history and drawing deep wisdom from it at the same time saying we need to forget all of it. We need to put that behind us. Absolutely. We need to forget it and we need to move forward. This isn't hotel stuff right there

2:31:19 Yeah, and Kaya mentioned it previously in this podcast that we shouldn't teach history. And you've heard me say that before in school. The reason why I believe that is history should be learned in the home not school. You should take their time to teach civics You know what I'm saying? And your political rights and even law. If you want to protect the future of your system, you will do that because you see exactly what happened is our scholastic system was captured by one side doesn't matter which side it was captured by

2:31:56 Very very dangerous and this is gonna lead to confusion because nobody's gonna be on a greed what happened in history So it's like let's not even teach that to our kids leave that up to you. Then I'll just something Jewish people have been very successful and I admire about them. They build museums, they build historic places where they can go learn their traditions and history. More people need to do that and that's the place where you should learn at it because its just... Well you can Mo! You can at the Obama Presidential Library

2:32:36 Right, and just like the museum of African American History Museum that kind of thing. It doesn't work it has to be you know funded by your group for your group yeah and I do admire that about how they carry themselves for that so but in this clip I've seen Kanye go from one extreme to the other. When he was on the Yeezy album, He was heavy into Egyptian imagery even to the point where you had like a head-sized chain and charm that was the head of a horse? No, the Egyptian god Yeah So he's gone from one extreme in that extreme

2:33:24 Now I think he identifies himself as Moses or you know that kind of thing. He literally has said that yeah, right let my people go and Even to the point where in this hear me out and not you because you always hear me out Well whoever's listening out there using the facts family. I think he sees himself as a sacrificial Figure similar to Christ And what's happened here, that may sound crazy. But what he's I think he has done? He has made himself the new George Floyd. Let me let me expound on it. I mean if you want to jump in or you want me to expound? Yeah go go no matter what he's done the white lives matter T shirt The red hat You know saying that could be taken by black people is like off code

2:32:36 Right, and just like the museum of African American History Museum that kind of thing. It doesn't work it has to be you know funded by your group for your group yeah and I do admire that about how they carry themselves for that so but in this clip I've seen Kanye go from one extreme to the other. When he was on the Yeezy album, He was heavy into Egyptian imagery even to the point where you had like a head-sized chain and charm that was the head of a horse? No, the Egyptian god Yeah So he's gone from one extreme in that extreme

2:33:24 Now I think he identifies himself as Moses or you know that kind of thing. He literally has said that yeah, right let my people go and Even to the point where in this hear me out and not you because you always hear me out Well whoever's listening out there using the facts family. I think he sees himself as a sacrificial Figure similar to Christ And what's happened here, that may sound crazy. But what he's I think he has done? He has made himself the new George Floyd. Let me let me expound on it. I mean if you want to jump in or you want me to expound? Yeah go go no matter what he's done the white lives matter T shirt The red hat You know saying that could be taken by black people is like off code

2:34:27 You know, let's go down the white lives matter. The red hat slavery was a choice you know even wearing the confederate flag he's done that the same way George Floyd you're saying he allegedly put a gun to and I don't understand later because i haven't seen the paperwork they said that but they ran with him pointing a gun at a pregnant woman stomach all the things you're saying then you know that kind of thing it didn't matter we that cop appeared to have his knee somewhere on his body and I'm not gonna get into that you know saying that trick bag and held him down it didn't render him a Kanye's been seen the same way now the media has their knee on his neck And people are saying that's enough. That's enough like we get it, okay 1.5 billion but two no

2:35:19 Come for him, you know to say he's crazy and only to prove the point that this is what happens when you step out of line. And don't go along with it Has this activated black thumbs? Yes, because even people that disagree with him or something. That's what I'm expressing the sentiment of what? I've taken from Even people that would know didn't you know wasn't feeling Kanye especially after the white lives matter shirt is like that triggered a lot of people like whoa bro You're saying and that's what even did he was saying Like no, you can't do this at that shirt But the sentiment of people like this isn't not like you you've only proven his point

2:36:01 So, and who was saying that? That's not publicly said. Is that being... Where is that being said? In the comments! Like I say we- I take the weight of it and it's not individual comments but when I hear a consensus of comments across new- Look at it. I listen to just for people let people know. I listened to 91 individual pieces of information for this one episode Some right that what that one Lex interview with three hours Yeah so I mean just to show and and I read the comments to see what the reaction is to it And he's exposing a lot of people Kanye is by the people who's lining up with their business interests You know, it's saying. I'm not gonna say thing you know Whatever It's not good for me saying thing and in for other people to say you know What this is enough like get off the man's neck

2:36:54 You know, does the crime meet the punishment? The same way George Floyd. No matter how he got on that ground enough is enough and people might say oh no that's not the same it is the same So how is this manifesting this activation? Okay, so the comments I got it and YouTube comments. I think are probably one of the most honest places where you can Post thoughts left yes some reason i'm not sure why that is but it is Although the uploader the creator can delete stuff. I guess you could moderate that so how right How was that manifesting itself will people boycott businesses will be well You know how far

2:37:38 It's just the fact that you're saying it now, like see he's proving your point. You know you couldn't say that before! You know? Right. You couldn't say that before. You couldn't say oh no it looks like there is a conspiracy from the media to destroy somebody and also I see him... Like I don't know Kanye but from what I'm seeing is like He knew how this was going play out He's seen this happen to somebody like even Trump. Yeah, it can't be a surprise It could not be a surprise that This would be the result and two double triple quadruple down and to keep poking the bear I think he wants to be that figure

2:38:27 And that's kind of like what Christ is, you know what I'm saying? Like in a way. You know it was... I'll die for everybody sins. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm going to take this L This 1.5 billion dollar L so we can get rid of these bad contracts because you see how they treat you when you step out on the line Yeah So that's the just my takeaway from it but going back to history this is Billy Graham I played his clip before And it's the what color was Jesus conversation and this is Billy Graham a quote-unquote white evangelical in the 1971 Pastor he was the America's pastor. You know saying yeah, and he makes his statement about the race of Jesus horns on his brow and his face was bleeding and they laughed at him and they spit on him and They mocked

2:39:18 And with one snap of his finger, 72 thousand angels had already drawn their swords ready to come to His rescue and wipe this planet out of existence in the universe. Jesus said no, to this end was I born." He dragged and lifted and hauled that cross! Don't you black people ever forget one thing? The man that helped Jesus carry that cross was a black man And don't ever forget another thing. Jesus belongs to Africa as much as he does to Europe and Asia, He was born in that part of the world that touches Africa and Asia and Europe and Jesus was not a white man like me nor was he is blackest some of you

2:40:15 We don't know what the color of his skin, but it must have been a dark color like the people of this day because he was a man like them. Don't ever say it's a white man's religion or a black man's religion! It's a world religion! He belongs to the world!" So that's just the histrionics you know of...it causes...It's the cause for conversation Now, I'm just laying it out there. This is why when you teach history and science together they conflict with each other as far as... Yeah it can get kind of weird Right So I mean because Kanye was like we all come from Africa I think he was sharing the sentiment that Billy Graham was saying as well That if you look historically at people from that area

2:41:18 they're not going to be quote unquote white people. Right, or so-called white people so all right let's go ahead and hop back into another chunk of this Lex and Kanye podcast I'm giving a fact 50% today of let's say you don't call black people Jew right? Black peoples deaths today is abortion today right now like that it's not Racism, that's too wide of a term. It's genocide and population control that black people are in today in America that is promoted by the music and the media that black people make that Jewish record labels get paid off or media companies. Yeah this was very strong this was I mean

2:42:09 He switched to media companies, but the... I mean drill rap. We've talked about all this stuff it's crazy and this has been going on for a long time ever since NWA that was like the really popular popularizing of a Gangster quote-unquote gangster rap. Yeah, and as long as you that gun I always say why every time you hear a rapper talking about he's gonna shoot or kill somebody who's on the other end of that gun right if You had a rapper come out and stay what? He said

2:42:45 about dogs Like I love to kill dogs. Oh, yes. I see a dog every time Would be immediately ban that arrest the guy right and just to make my point We have white Mike your Michael Smith from TED talks He's a pastor down in Atlanta, right? And this is show for show 48 shooters he's gonna just you're saying further the point I'm making about what who was acceptable to talk about Now we don't have Mamie Two Shoes today. You can't get away with it, nobody would put it out there but we do have black people that get on the radio every day in white owned companies, white owned stations with white owned sponsors that play the role of hyper sexualized, hyper criminalized male I asked these advertisers say I've got hundreds of songs a day to celebrate killing animals will you put them on your station? They said no! I got hundreds of songs a day they talk about

2:43:34 assaulting women and abusing kids. Would you put them on your station? They said no, I said I got hundreds of songs a day that talk about murdering blacks would you put them on your stations they say well that depends depends on what who it's done by and who its branded for because we can get black folks to sing about it we can brand if our youngest black audiences I think there's money to be made I think there's American appetites to see these people that way yeah I'd love this clips one my favorites so spot-on And for some hip hop history, Kanye has been a thorn in the record industry side because of the image that he portrayed and the image that he destroyed. Kanye and 50 Cent dropped albums on the same day and they were gonna say who's gonna win? You know what I'm saying this is the thing it was graduation versus... What'd I say it wasn't massacre I can't remember which 50 cent album but these are two of the biggest hip-hop names at Hip Hop at the time

2:44:31 David and Goliath, you know what I'm saying? You got this pink polo wearing kid from Chicago that made great beats but wasn't considered a top rapper Kanye. And you had this bully from New York that shot nine times and he just bullied scared everybody. The people spoke and they said we want Kanye. We don't want 50 Cent And they had to rejigger everything for like four or five years to go that path, to keep people on board. I don't want to underestimate how he's been a thorn in the music industry side

2:45:20 and we've seen it playing out. So, he's all... He wrote this in his song all the time about why is black murder okay? So, there is nothing new for him to be saying this instead of just the fact that there's no silencer there anymore you know, there's no oh! We can put a lid on them and that's why I was stressing the point of contracts when you're out of contracts and I'm speaking... I'm preaching to choir here talking to you but you know what am saying like were you out of that contract You're a free man speaking now. This is the main reason why I really stopped the book that i was thinking of writing and publishing, is because all the offers came with a morality clause like how am I gonna let you decide what I do or say as moral or not? And that was just a showstopper so you know what no book contract! That's crazy right?! I mean like what it cuz that morality and we all sign on morality clause

2:46:19 If you have a job it's called the work handbook. Yeah, and anything is kind of vaguely written for why you could be fired It was like if you do something I'm becoming to the company like what does that even mean? Right so we all have a morality call You're saying I mean if you don't not working for yourself And let me now people are finally realizing that you were saying with the well if you don't take the shot You know saying this that's against put company policy So I'm just saying that This black death thing is if the shoe was on the other foot and you had black executives profiting off of any other group killing it any other group, it would be a problem. But it's not here and you know what I point the finger at us because without the talent You can't have the songs well this is ultimately yet and so I

2:47:15 If this is indeed what Kanye's strategy is, then it's a very interesting way of doing it and I can see his reasoning. But ultimately at some point you got to check out you gotta build your alternate universe You gotta build your product, system, world and have to do without everything else And that's not easy thing to do Correct This will trickle down the suppliers, factories manufacturing transport companies You know, it's gonna be a lot of work. But if he can... Yeah I mean it can be done you know? I'm doing it on my own little small scale. It can't-you're doing it on your own small scale. Yes just small scale. He about to say podcast again come on now! Yeah but that's not the same as quarter billion dollars worth of sneakers that's pretty... Okay true yeah true but imma say like this

2:48:13 It's not even about if Kanye does it or not. It's the point that the kids listen to them, listened to him and that's what they're scared of! That's why they haven't been able to cancel him all this time he has a multi-race multigenerational backing Oh you don't have to tell me my nephew... He is let say 21 now? 20,21 Huge Kanye fan. He's texting me during all this he's like you see this yay for president, you know You're like he'd eat this whole thing for him and his His family is on his dad side as Jewish. She loves Kanye white kid from Holland It's fantastic And that's that's the problem Yeah Because either he might inspire the person that builds a system or the person that funds the system. Yep

2:49:13 So that's why he is a real, they have to get some kind of control over him. So speaking of control once again with the black Hebrew Israelite things I thought this was very unbecoming of Lex and like I said I'm just being giving my perspective of what made me cringe when it was done and this is clip 24 of their conversation. I agree with Martin Luther King I have a dream too. Martin that one day was would not be judged by the color of your skin, or your race black or Jew but by the content your character all the assholes that fucked you over in the music industry fuck artists over in the music industry are individuals they're not Jews can you can use it? They are they are Jewish It doesn't they're human with opportunities

2:50:12 And they took those opportunities. I don't care if they're Jewish or Jew- Do you feel like I should release that pain and separate it? Yes, okay. So if that is okay so if you're saying I should release that pain and separate it then I'm telling you You should release your pain and separate it And we could get to this the list of how you are being with engineering opportunities That's hundred percent. I see what you're doing that exactly you're doing the pain. I'm gonna let it go That was a good one The MLK trigger. Uh-huh? When I can't get you in line

2:50:55 Now we go to the MLK trigger. Let's bring up Martin Luther King, be a respectable Negro like Martin Luther King now you don't want to go and no be hateful in not saying Kanye is hateful but that's the thing like you don't want to take that route You wanna good doing it love brother We all human brother use that kind of thing I do it like MLK would do it Yeah, we know how MLK works as a trigger Right so we only have Yeah, we don't have to get into clip 25 but that just goes on to talk with this show the clip 22 We were talking about this trigger and you know in this and he used it twice in there is yeah And it's a control me like what would King do? Well, you see both sides. Do it like what would King do Oh, no Dr.. King you're saying he wouldn't heal it. Yo what is it and his soul all you want to put me back in a box I

2:51:46 You know, it's okay to be nonviolent. It's okay didn't be disarmed No we armed up over here is BLM. Yes a BG beam I mean GB G excuse me Get a gear blacks guns that's triggering the people like whoa you can't get black people guns no Why not if I miss in my isn't there constitution? Right yep. I mean like if I'm fully American citizen It's my right to bear arms to protect myself. Like no, you gotta be M okay You got a you know saying be love gonna protect you no love And that's that's just intellectual bullshit from Lex this as typical Very like liberal intellectual bullshit is what that is to power write it off like that if he did one of them Okay, but he went down the plate and to me I

2:52:45 He got his bullet phone ring. Yeah, like a Lex A Lex he's a crafty one So you understand let's go over there just go over the checklist of this this this because they hit him all yeah It's like it's not a coincidence that you hear all the talking points Yeah And I knew that was what is gonna be like You'll say that well No We have drink champ and we have to resume that Kanye knew that this would happen too. He knew all of this would play out It's the imagery that he came in there with this dirty looking sweatshirt. He is the most unassuming billionaire or used to be billionaire, that you ever seen because he had like this dirty work shirt on. No even said... he even said oh I have this dirty old thing on and was tired of seeing the same hoodie in all the other interviews. He thought about it!

2:53:37 Right even to the point where he went talking talk. I hear that big wild mustache like, you know, but he just crawled out a you know, like You know this all like just like wow man, like, you know a caveman and it's like oh For a man that understand imagery, everything was planned. All of this was planned down to the piece of paper and writing notes like, oh Lex tell me how I should fix things? When I saw that I was like okay... That's very patronizing! We're about to get a master class into trolling and he is a troll at the end of day but

2:54:16 in this era of 45 Savage, trolling is very powerful. Yeah. So yeah, alright so let's go ahead and move on and get to part 10 of the Lex interview one of the problems you highlight is people get fucked over in the music industry and get fucked over in the media get fucked over all over the place they created there was a there was a Jewish trainer that Brought me to the hospital and put in press that I went to the hospital. I got I know friends off of exhaustion a Jewish doctor They died no sing Jewish because they were right diagnosed me with bipolar disorder and shot me with medication and put me on medication then put it in the press and every time even if I wore the wrong color hat that a nigger is not supposed to wear right

2:55:10 Then they immediately say he's off of his shit. He's office meds He's off his rocker and it literally uses a scarlet letter control mechanism totally 100% in an era where you can't question anybody's mental health That's that's the thing if it was 1980 to be different where you could say all people's man, he's crazy or he's Whatever you're saying but in like go back once again to say in an era where you recalled a record. Yeah And have it recorded because they had the word spaz. It's not even mean spazz in the sense of that, you know what I'm saying? Spastic. Yeah but no it is a slang term like spaz Like I'm gonna spaz on this beat. You hear rappers say I'm gonna spaz on this beat. I'm gonna spaz out. We used to use spaz all the time. Spaz was very normal in the 70s and it was an abbreviation of spastic

2:56:10 Right. So and that so of course, that's offensive. Of course can't say it unless you talk about Kanye West and his mental health fears He's a spaz clearly 27 If I raise my voice have I expressed myself on Instagram? It's a colonic. I got to do everything to get it out of my body. Ranting on Tucker, but silenced on Twitter and Instagram the fears for Kanye's mental health are growing today there are reports that friends are certain he is in the midst of a psychiatric episode that may be worse than the one which landed him in hospital six years ago He definitely needs to be hospitalized Kanye addressed this speculation Friday with Tucker Carlson They keep on using

2:56:58 the oh he's crazy is crazy and it hurts my feelings but now a backlash over kanye's weekend of anti-semitic social media posts is growing after this threat I'm going death con three on jewish people. I woke up in burst into tears Defcon 3 on Jewish people? Jamie Lee Curtis was very emotional on Today after she tweeted, your words hurt and incite violence. You are a father please stop What are you doing? Sarah Silverman Josh Gad and Rob Reiner who called Kanye a mentally ill anti-semite all tweeted about Ye's dangerous words John Legend who was once close to Kanye because Kanye appeared in one of legends earliest songs

2:57:42 I used to, used to love you. Appeared to address the vile remarks in his own tweet. Weird how all these free independent thinkers always land at the same old anti-blackness and antisemitism He told us this back in 2016 after Kanye's psychiatric emergency. So it's not even new he brought back an old tweet from John Legend And you see how they rewrite history. Kanye was on one of John Legend's songs? No, John Legend was signed to good music last time if my memory serves me correct but see even that's what I'm saying about the media they take the least little detail and flip it to the point where oh no it's not

2:58:32 Kanye or a former artist of Kanye West John Legend felt this way. No, he was once on one and Kanye was all his song Yeah, who sits around there and manipulates words in that way in a dishonest way And then they say he's mentally ill and let's not forget when Kanye came out on that stage And said it's a new day America You're saying Hillary Clinton winning the little hillary clinton and all that explain why with black radio? And why you know Why they lost election They hauled him off. Yeah, they did and threw him in a mental hospital And if you don't think that's how it goes down in Hollywood You're sadly mistaken and it might not be and captivity might not be that extreme as far as throwing you in a paddy wagon is there a padded van and holly wall to the mental asylum

2:59:30 But it's hey, I think you need to get away. Give me your phone Let's go in this private jet and fly to this Distant island yeah so you can decompress That's how it works. Yeah, so what? You need to go to a spa right exactly that spot Yeah, you need to go just unwind give me your phone give me your phone. Yeah It's triggering for you let me get that phone to go to a spa really do That is amazing. And you wonder why people don't trust the media? I don't wonder why people don't trust the media, this is just another prime example! Of course you do! But even to people that kind of watch the news or start seeing it was like wow and that's what I was saying about with him going through this whole process

3:00:23 I bet you there's more people, if I was a betting man and put a bet down. There is more people come out on the side of you know what that some crazy stuff Kanye said but the punishment don't meet the crime. I think more people are leaning in that way than after hearing all the facts it was justified what happened to him You know, well I think what mainstream would like is what they're saying they would like. He has to be quiet for a little bit and then he can come back and say look I had an episode you know that's what they would really like right? And Lex played that card just speak on mental health for a minute Kanye was like you know i was sleeping when I wrote that tweet and he was like Kanye are you getting sleep yeah yeah but you understand like you're sleep deprived

3:01:13 Are you getting, you need to get more sleep son. Yeah I know Right y'all that explains why you sent it gotta be an explanation why you did it and you wasn't in your right mind That's where we're at with this so let's go ahead and get into part 11 What do you think they put me right now? They put me as the prophet not the leader It doesn't have to be the leader because we need a more intelligent person to be the leader but at least They put me as the prophet they put me is the only person that would say this and I'm just saying that was for Jewish members that controlled my voice because for the fact that 90% of black people in entertainment from sports to music to acting are in some way tied into Jewish businesspeople Right. So the crux of his argument there

3:02:10 Right, and this is not specifically a black thing because we saw what happened with Britney Spears. Mm-hmm She didn't even have control over signing her own contracts, but she was still working Yeah, they didn't put her mental health first So it's not exclusive you're saying this is just how the system works But one message to Kanye bro wing got no leader I won't let you know that if you listening which you probably are We don't have no leader It don't work like that its We weigh it out and when I say we, we're talking about the thumbs here. Uh... We look at a situation, we weight it out and whatever is just how we decide And you asked me a question previously like how do you see it playing out or whatever? I'm seeing a lot of people

3:02:57 that are taking, oh Kanye messed his money up and he should have put his money first. And they're getting a lot of pushback from their following that they cultivated so it ain't outsiders. It's like bro this is off code you know this ain't no just the same way with if you notice it's the same way with what's the brown hair conservative congressperson Bober yeah Lauren Bobert you remember they told her the car service that told us stop apologizing mm-hmm that's the same way it's like maggots the same way there is no leader of Magga Donald Trump found it out real quick yeah there is no leader of Magga you keep pushing you're saying this shot will replace you know you won't be the leader exactly

3:03:48 We'll let you know saying no be an executive but there's not there is no leader of this movement. It's all about principles that we all agree upon. And that's what scares them because there is nothing to be co-opted, there is nothing to be controlled You can't control the mass All you could do was silence them and that why social media part is... Unless I mean the timing is so perfect! You'd think here comes our white knight in shining armor To open up the floodgates of Twitter just at the moment it's needed

3:04:26 It's not suspicious. I don't think... Magda don't trust him either They're like, you're doing what we want it's kind of like how politicians are supposed to do or supposed to be used You're doing what i want you to do for the moment And that's kind of what Trump you see that the DeSantis thing. Yeah, that was that was the control mechanism for trump Like oh we got a replacement for yeah Which I think josh holly is a very dangerous person? I don't like as far as huh i don't like holly You know i'm talking about as far as swooping in and being the white obama yeah well i don't like him regardless Is it like i'm not saying i like him either i'm just saying as far as politics is concerned

3:05:07 He's carried himself to be no MAGA-like, you know what I'm saying? Like all bringing in the CRT people and pro trans people and doing the, you know, the, oh, I'm gonna talk it down. He's positioning himself that 2024 pool to say you know I'm Maga like oh yeah, I'm just telling you. I'm just telling the same way You felt about the same way? I feel about Obama your saying is how you feel about him is like are you actual turf bro? But I'm just telling you did Big money I can see them support getting behind him because he has the talking points, but he'll play big politics Yeah, he's slick. He's like heat and he does some you know, it does good little Little sketches there on the c-span. He's good And he had to look and he has a look yep. Yep. Yeah So I'm just gonna lay that out there but for sure so let's go ahead get into 31

3:06:03 90% of black people in entertainment from sports to music to acting are in some way tied into Jewish businesspeople. Meaning that, in some way just like if Rahm is sitting next Obama or Jared's sitting next Trump there's a Jewish person right there controlling The the country the Jewish people controlling that who gets the best video or not Controlling what the media says about me person is not Jewish. Let me just say wait, but they are though That's the only thing it just so happens that they are It's you saying yeah doesn't mean that I hate them Yes, that just means that they are but if a dog whistle when you say Jewish media or Jews are controlling the voice of

3:06:53 of black artists, black people, black artists. When you say that... Am I not allowed to say it out loud? You can say it! There's a large number of people that are hurting and have anger and even have hate in their heart when they hear Jewish media they start- That hate starts being directed towards the Jewish people Yeah this is where It's like you can say this about so many different things the media says or people say particularly against black Americans and generalization. Right, because when you hear oh that's a diversity hire yeah I'm saying all John Paul whatever her name is oh she was hired cuz she was black and lesbian Karina Abdul Jean Pierre Van Damme Yeah her! You know what im sayin nobody bats an eye

3:07:48 When you see commercials and it's over-representation of black people, people point that out or CEOs being hired because they're black to meet a certain image for a company. If there was ever a disparity between black and white men in America—two black and white men—I would say it would be Kanye and Tucker Tucker, the things he says are against the pharmaceutical companies. Against the banks I mean it... Of course I agree with a lot of it but but he is allowed to keep his platform! I do not understand what kind of leverage she has or just over...I mean it's crazy. I have an idea. Well controlled opposition No that ain't it either

3:08:40 Go. You want him to be a free agent? I mean he's propping up the Fox, whatever their direct what is it like you know the platform where you can pay? Oh. I mean with all his documentaries wherever. Fox Nation, Fox Nation yeah He is Fox News let's be honest The only news I watch is Tucker Carlson Right but so On a nightly basis So do you want him as a free agent? Not you but does Fox really want him off of contract off paper But when you hear me what I'm saying Yeah, the pharmaceutical companies do not like what he's saying yet. They continue to advertise on the rest of Fox So who has the power there? Clearly The Media Company is more powerful than the pharmaceutical company I'm gonna push back not just to disagree with you but as they say they didn't like Kanye putting on a red hat They didn't like Kanye saying what he was saying

3:09:40 But they didn't go to the streams of getting him off of a contract They just had to deal with it because they understand what freedom meant and that's the same thing for Tucker Carlson talk across Have you walks out of Fox today? I mean all these people like daily wire whatever he smashes all over He sucks all the air out the room and that's not me being us Tucker fan. That death heat He read the tea leaves early on and was like Yeah, I see where mag is going And MAGA has the bull by its horns as far as the Republican Party is concerned. Right, but Tucker doesn't have the same set of balls as Kanye because Tucker still has to walk within some kind of parameters there's no doubt about it you can't do that job in that environment without having some rails

3:10:27 I think he wants to get fired. I mean that's just my, because some of the stuff he does... He was Kanye before Kanye because he would- I'm like wow! Like you said like and it start the stark contrast if he rails against Ukraine right? No how about this he rails against not Ukraine but the military industrial complex Right and then right after him the other guy comes on he's like, he's a pin wearing So it's just like I don't think when you have people like that are your team

3:11:03 It's kind of like, what are you going to do? I mean you see it in sports a lot. Like this guy has a headache but what we're gonna do let him go? Um...I'd rather him be my headache. Well so there you go bottom line yes this guy is a headache but he brings in a quarter billion dollars a year for us But this time the decision was We got to let them go because he touched that he took the third rail and just done what nobody's done to it. And now I'm wondering, and you gotta think Tucker let Kanye say some third rail type of stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like the Jewish engineering with Hanukkah or the financial engineering clip that he cut out but it was still out there and then he said he let Kanye say that blacks are the real Jews. It's like whoa! So I'm just saying

3:12:02 Tucker Carlson is a problem that they don't Fox News really don't have a solution for to be I mean, that's just my perspective because He's the only one at MAGA really rocks with in far as conservative news mainstream conservative news everybody else they're very suspect of but I mean, and you know what? I think Tucker found that little Alex Jones-like kind of thing. Like he's found a way to use Alex Jones' talking points but make them more palatable

3:12:39 For the for the mainstream. I like it. I like your theory he wants to get fired. I'm with you on that That's just my take on it, I mean cuz I've thought about this and this is not this Cuz I'm gonna saying where you are like what does he doing? You know They know he can't say that so alright, so we're just going into them controlling Aspect of it. This is one last clip for somebody that has been cancelled Farrakhan On the levels of Alex Jones, and I think he was one of the few people that they put the first cancel cannon on And this is him speaking on The Jewish control of sports and more specifically LeBron James. I want to close with basketball since LeBron was in the news

3:13:36 Have you ever seen such a clamor over our brothers? Mickey Arison is the owner of the Miami Heat. Miami Heat, is that where Dwayne Wade is? Is that where Roche is? Dan Gilbert, owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Now listen! You know there's some plantations if you go to they treat you better but our brother went from one plantation owner who is Jewish to another plantation owner who was Jewish and a Jewish owner in Miami was jumping up and down

3:14:42 Cause these Negroes sitting here like they are the top stars, but in the background is the dude that's saying boy we gonna get 750 million dollars coming in because of these three Negroes. Put their meat on a plantation! Farrakhan. Now you see why he, yeah and he was one of the OG's against any vaccines oh yeah that's why they had to get him out the paint real quick. He got it early on. He got a really early on

3:15:24 So just go back a little bit before we go into the next Doja Nation segment. Now, we see while LeBron James can't say anything about the things he's not allowed to say anything about everybody like why LeBron James ain't no saying about China? Why LeBron James don't say anything about this or that a lot of his Wealth is you know saying it's tied into these big corporations ie Nike and I don't think Nike is Jewish at Jewish own So like I said, it's the bigger they. It's not you see what? It's the bigger they Here thing is Chinese but they understand

3:16:03 We'll let him have his pet projects, but we can't have them free. You can't have a free LeBron James because if a free LeBron James hooks up with a free Kanye West and the Free Jay-Z... No, it would ruin the Chinese business! It'd ruin a lot of business Because you see jay-z's and he's even going through some stuff with his liquor with the liquor company now Are they trying to under uh, undervalue his portion of? Ownership. I didn't know this yeah secrets i think is yeah i'm just saying that it's some weird stuff going on because Lebron Jay Z all these other people when Kanye does this not everybody's looking at them like

3:16:49 You ain't gonna support him? It was like, where you at? Where's everybody at and everybody... Yeah it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing that they can't stand behind him. Yes similar to how when everybody just abandoned Trump after 2020 Everybody knew what the fix was in But all the Republicans what sat on their hands that I'm gonna say it like this me clearly clean it up all the mainstream conservative or Republicans sit on our hands and they saying thing Because they was like, oh I can't go down there Rigged election talk. That's crazy but you see as it more and more You're hearing Oh The you know January 6 wasn't that big of a deal talk now

3:17:36 When you if you said that in January 7th, yeah Yeah No I mean and of course You know now there's a different view on the effectiveness of vaccines or the extreme effectiveness depending on what outcome you wanted from them There's there's more of a broader conversation but it's this is the difficult part. The difficult part is where people have to start admitting that they were wrong or at least get off their defensive, or get out of defensive mode and say okay let's you know let's hug it out here and let's move on This is hard for people to do Correct Very hard So with that said You want to thank some more people? Yes because we love it I like brand new money I just don't want any money around me

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3:29:38 of what's dealt with and tell me if I say the facts out loud to the point of Ari Emanuel writing a letter in The Financial Times trying to take food out of my childrens mouth telling people that they're not allowed to work with me. Even Chris Cuomo or Piers Morgan getting me to apologize and separate Jewish business people to from the families of the Jewish business people, which I did Update. I did that that already happened and there was a shitty apology. That wasn't really an apology And that's where Jay got triggered it and I've been calling Kanye yay. I'm so I understand you're saying but is

3:30:24 I want to respect him saying his name change the same way Ali changed his name, but it's kind of like that cousin It comes back around and called in one name all this life. Yeah No, call me man Right no, there's no I want to point that out because I won't don't ever wanted to be taking this disrespect so I want to make sure that we're saying we do that cuz whatever people want to be addressed by they need to Be addressed by but um yeah So I'm Taking food out his kids mouth. Yeah, it's a lot of food If you work hard for every every cent counts and This family attack thing we can't underestimate Now we get we talked about the how

3:31:13 These last few clips we're going to get in the world next couple of clips. We won't get into the why what push Kanye slash Jay? Sorry natural, but what puts yay over the edge What caught what causes and I think is losing his family And no way he does come back consistently and then he's very angry at Kris Jenner Yes So let's go ahead and get into 36. This kind of sets it up about the family aspect of it. Let's go on my contracts, and no one can say this is ramped up knowing how much Stern can't say this is wrapped up our Emmanuel can say this is wrapped up George Soros knows damn well that I'm not ramped up George Soros knows like wow, this guy's like a younger

3:32:04 guy that's looking at what I did and looking at how I control the world silently, and he's calling it out. And he's not using any of the fear tactics...I can't send his homeboys around him, I can't send his wife to him this guy just with George Soros sees right when he's dealing with me right? Oh wow! He was about to say a younger me yeah that's funny That's why I said like, I think he's trying to get into the social engineering as well. Like a Soros of... Why not? You know, why not? Because the way you pause, I'm speculating here but it sounds like he was saying George Soros looks at me like a younger me and what he didn't want that would be a bad optics to kind of out yourself in. It is totally something Ye could say. We could totally hear him saying that. That's interesting

3:32:54 Right, and then he talks about who they sent to control him. And so we finally get to the talk across the interview where all this starts I mean well a large majority of their press run starts in the control they had on his family more specifically his wife The first indication that West might become a massive problem for the industrial deception complex came in 2015 and 2016 when Donald Trump appeared. And West had a very strong gut reaction to Trump that was very positive, and the people around him were panicked by this. The last thing you could have is one of the most popular pop culture figures in America

3:33:35 coming out for Donald Trump. So they applied intense pressure to get him back on the script, and apparently his wife was part of that—his former wife Kim Kardashian who West now learns had a very close relationship with the Clintons and people around the Clintons he had no idea His relationship with Trump on the other hand flourished And he got a window into the people around Trump In this clip you'll hear him assess what happened inside The White House Very interesting Watch It was interesting. A friend of mine told me that Chris and Kim had called him because he had influence inside of the black community, and had called him to say... Oh! To get him to influence people to take the vaccination. And I don't have opinion on that. I just want to state as a flat statement but it was

3:34:35 It was wild that I didn't know how close my own wife was to the Clintons. I didn't know, you know...I didn't realize it at the time. That you were married to her? And well, I was married to her How close was she to the Clintons? I mean, cell phone away? Or hey tell Ye to say this away or hey go out and use your platform to push the vaccination away. Not a way but like take the way part but you know... Do you feel like at times you were manipulated by political forces through your wife? Attempt manipulation Yeah that was uh that was a dynamite moment Hillary and Kim Go figure

3:35:22 And that's gotta piss you off because as a family man, and this would enrage him I think to be the why is he doing this at the core of it. Because what the media did was not only did they drive a wedge between him and his wife or he- This is how he perceives it being a family man It's how I will perceive it You drive a wedge between me and my wife Then when they get divorced, they run with this thing like he's the next OJ Or Pete you're saying Peters got your daughter sitting on his lap Tattooing his name their names on his body that by the way. That's completely outrageous

3:36:12 The shit that was going on with Pete and the kids, maybe half of it is true. I don't know but wow! Yeah that would drive me nuts too. It's the amplification for me. Look how the media amplified it by every...on the front page all Pete you know they're making love by the fireplace oh yeah Pete got your woman kind of thing to trigger him to do something to show up. That is 100% what media does, media loves doing that they love spouses, they love divorces because they can amplify what one spouse does and the war of the roses they love resurrecting the war of the roses script whenever they can

3:36:56 But it can't be lost on you that your wife left you for a quote-unquote white perp, white man. Yo hello! And some of the disgusting things I heard about what he's doing to her and this is all mainstream media and it's like hold on now like... Well we're in the area of WAP. We're in the area of WAP you know? It's like anything goes now But you're not gonna hear just what's our about scholar just like just saying Maxwell, but the other Tom Brady's wife. You're not going to hear is Lubunchin Yeah, you're not gonna hear her get her back blown out by your sand by somebody

3:37:39 Getting her back blown out. Oh, yeah I never heard that That's how disrespectful it was. I mean like to go down to the axe and that kind of thing You're not gonna hear oh This this athlete is doing this to your wife in a Tom Brady and his wife divorce No, this would I think they were trying to trigger him to pop off you know who else they did this with Dennis Rodman? Dennis Rodman true because he was easy to trigger. He was fun to trigger I thought they all had fun doing that Yeah, come trying to think back of all the big divorces How about our golfer Tiger Woods? Yeah, he got beat up by a white woman But they didn't say oh this guy's coming over in you're saying no one's done to his wife No, no they didn't

3:38:38 No, because that's what I'm saying. I agree with you they love to be messy in divorces. To keep me saying you saw it with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt and his first wife You saw that was mess but to allude to oh he is doing this to your wife in a very disrespectful manner Yeah Because of me being her husband I might be on the front lawn. I'm sorry, I mean like because you got to imply like my kids sitting on his lap Yeah Oh no That was the part that was out of control Right So...I think for me that would probably be the why of all this Of why he will have an all-out attack on the media Because i think Whatever you say there needs to be some respect

3:39:39 If you respect, even as an asset. As a media asset they didn't get into the details of how Jay-Z cheated on Beyonce. It was okay he cheated but he didn't want to give you the blow by blow. They did this to Kanye and Ye in his situation so I think that's what set him off the deep end on a Rambo kind of thing. Okay, you tore my family up? You want no man in the house is what it looks like and I can't disagree with them from that aspect if somebody set out to divide my home so...

3:40:20 Let's go ahead and get into 38. That we're going to be able to get past this, and the way God is gonna use me right now is for me to stop talking about the pain, stop talking about what happened, and do something about it! And that's where I'm at right now in this moment. I'm not asking for anyone out here to empathize or sympathize a dude worth $11 billion that can make money disappear, I mean appear out of thin air in five different industries. You know? I'm not asking for anybody to sympathize with someone who's

3:40:58 Married to Kim Kardashian dated Irina Shayk. Like I feel like i'm just not gonna get the sympathy vote in this situation, right? So... I feel your pain Yeah, I feel like no one's gonna fill my pain only Brad and Leo can fill my pain so the so uh But still but here today when you said as a sorry apology What's the apology that you're looking for? Yeah, this was the setup from Ye. He knew it. He knew what was going to come

3:41:35 So let me explain the apology that they're looking for yay just in case you don't know They want the apology that LeBron James made for saying that He was making Hebrew money or the apology that Jay-z gave For saying, you know how Jewish people own all the property and saying it real estate is because how they did it credit That's the apology. They won't they wanted to you know before Trip to the you know, the Holocaust Museum. You come out yeah, you know it's a It's a whole thing too. I mean like you kind of know what when you hear somebody also might say something That's this anti-semitic all you nor they're going to the Holocaust Museum They're gonna talk to our rabbi and more I think I think I've told you what happened to me in 1985 No, you haven't So maybe was a little late it was around that was in the Netherlands and I think it was

3:42:34 It was something to do with Israel, maybe with the Middle East. But it's like Jews and Arabs. And I was being interviewed by a real news radio program and they say well... They would say that seems like the media is really building up this hype for war and I made the classic mistake – now I was 20 Of saying well punches look at the credits of Hollywood then maybe understand where the with anger is coming from seems to me There's a lot of Jewish names there boom boom front page front page front page talk shows talking about people saying it triggered me To think of the Nazi jackboots when I was a little girl walking past our hiding spot that kind of shit came out on TV and

3:43:27 and right away the CDCIDI, the Dutch Anti-Defamation League... Robbie... I forget his name. Right away they made me do the walk! Now, I definitely was ignorant about the trope of Jews controlling the media. At that time I was completely ignorant That that was the rail. I just didn't know, I mean it would...I grew up in a country with socialist media you know? It's like by the way Holocaust was openly discussed my friends' grandmothers had tattooed numbers on their arms but holy crap! I had to do the walk and it ended for me there and there was no other repercussion

3:44:23 Because I did the walk when i was 20 years old but it is universal. Holocaust museum, they took me to their museum The whole thing take a picture yeah Which I have no problem No but if that's how they maintain respect for their culture? I have no problem with it and this kind of leads into into next clip Is you really can't ask for an apology. Correct, it has to come from the heart from the person themselves Right so love respect and an apology You really can't ask for So I think people understand that but is that we got to maintain optics And i'll say this because what you were saying that Jack boo in going back 1930 Who's to say that pain is not real?

3:45:23 If you're being taught that from an early age, like when you hear this This is what they mean. Like when you hear with quote-unquote black people so called black people They tell us you can't say master bedroom anymore But we even say the word masters You know saying it goes back to you know slave or even to the point in fantasy sports Which I'm a big fan of play they went and took it used to be your owners of players Oh Yeah, it used to be owned by or this player's own box. They switched that and what is it now? It's uh rostered You know I'm just saying so And that's the danger of CRT and that's why I pushed up back behind Behind that because he's trying to instill oh when you hear these words be triggered to be you know going to victimization So I'm not gonna poo-poo people's feelings a you know

3:46:21 If they've been conditioned that way when you hear this, that means that this is a dog whistle for this and that kind of thing. I do need to point out one thing the woman who said that was lying she was not old enough to have been as she claimed a child during that period She's a very famous entertainer so she was saddled up to do this Correct, just like I assume that that teacher in the beginning of the clip with the fourth graders Yeah was it doesn't matter if is real or not. It's about getting well She was actually she was actually triggering the trauma Nationally on television right doing it purposely yeah and and of course That's real of course I know is real But anyway the point is the format is there if you don't follow the format you got a problem

3:47:11 the apology format. That's it, and you can't ask for... Since we covered that we can go on to the last and final clip but I'm just going to remind people again. And they got this from... I mean didn't get this from Neely Fuller but he kind of like readdresses it that you can't ask for love, You can't ask for respect, and you can't ask for an apology. You never asked anybody for an apology Why? According to logic because it doesn't mean anything if you have to ask for it Yes, it's when people come to you and say I apologize for what i said to you the other day. That is when it has value! When you have to beat a person over the head and say apologize to me

3:47:54 I�m going to inflict injury on you, or I�m going to say terrible things about you. Or I'm going to do something to you and you better apologize! But first say okay okay okay! I apologize for slavery alright? I apologize for all the things that I am going to do next week or this evening. In fact I will load you up with apologies I mean, and you'll have them in advance. How many do you need? That's why I use the word atonement. If someone wants to atone, it is on them to come to you and atone. Right! Now you can have self-respect for yourself and say you know what? I'm not going deal with that person until I get an apology

3:48:50 That's the difference, but you can't demand a twist of my arm for apology. Well, you'll get words But you won't get atonement correct exactly so this last and final clip This is Kanye and I think this is the place where he's at and why he He faced the council culture And he feels like he can't be harmed by it. 44 Am I allowed to say Jewish? Tell me, is it anti-Semitic for Yeh to say Jewish out loud? No there's a...I don't like the aloud that presumes censorship You have a powerful voice Did I prove that there was censorship over the past two weeks? Who censored you? Oh, Drain Shams Oh my lord!

3:49:37 Like Twitter and so on Twitter has less to do drink champs that hurt you the drink champs That nor took it down took down your conversation. Oh, they didn't hurt you I've man You gotta be honest about the free with still the kids who used to be? I put my hand on a stove To see if I still bleed And nothing hurts anymore, I feel kind of free. Yeah and that was the conclusion? That was his summary hand on the stove? That's where Demonstrate he is at right now Wow! I put my hand on the stove See if it could bleed... And nothing hurts anymore, I feel kinda free WOW!

3:50:34 I really am happy that we did this. And I'm happy that you gave me a different perspective to look at what Kanye is doing here and from the perspective of breaking free, breaking all the shackles literally...I sure hope the strategy works for him because he's a very fun force to have in the universe and I think an important one And I think a lot, it's not only Kanye. I think it's the collective mind state you saw so many resignations after COVID you saw so many people betting on themselves at the COVID. So is and I'm one of them It's like I put my hand on the stove. Mm-hmm. I think you're playing music Yeah, I am. I'm playing it to be cool Okay, so I feel kind of free myself so I can agree with that

3:51:27 Me too, man. And I've had this feeling for 15 years there's always still some monetary networks that you always have to be careful not to piss off but otherwise it is a great feeling being free and i'm so happy that you are and that your building up your future for your family because I know thats what you're working hard on Right So with that said as I always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And we'll be back next time with more facts with Adam Curry.

3:52:18 Someday, someday I wanna lay down like God did on Sunday. Sunday, Sundays I remember these days. Sundays, that way, yeah, way ways I wanna hit that red dot on everybody someday I've been trying to make you love me But everything i try just takes you further from me

3:53:25 Once again I am a child, I let go Of everything that I know Yeah Of everything that I know And not anymore I feel kind of free We're still the kids we used to be Yeah, I put my hand on a stove To see if I still bleed And nothing hurts anymore I feel kind of free We're still the kids we used to be Yeah, yeah. I put my hand on a stove To see if I still bleed

3:54:30 And nothing hurts anymore, I can finally