Topic: John Legend

Kanye West describes how his mental health diagnosis is used as a "scarlet letter" to control his public voice. The hosts discuss the 2016 incident where West was hospitalized after speaking out against Hillary Clinton and the media. They critique John Legend and other celebrities for using West's "psychiatric emergency" to dismiss his political and cultural arguments.

The episode ends with the song "Ordinary People" by John Legend. The lyrics reflect on the complexities of relationships and the need to "take it slow," serving as a musical transition out of the intense discussion on eugenics and population control.