44: Big Bank Barry

00:03 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for July 25th, 2020. This is episode number 44! And we did it! It's Saturday and we're dropping! I can't believe it... Hey Mo how you doing? Dropping on a Saturday, dropping on the short week. I'm doing fine Yeah drop it on this Saturday man. I'm doing fine Adam how about yourself? Yeah i'm doing real good It's uh...it's been yeah, I guess it's been a pretty good week and uh..yeah? Yeah! I've done my homework Uh I've been-I've been doing the work which means that I watched all All of the episodes of The Last Dance About the Chicago Bulls Michael Jordan And I feel like I have been schooled now I know what is going on and also realized

00:53 Then when it comes to podcasting, I'm really the Michael Jordan of podcasting which makes you the Scottie Pippen. I'll be that. No, you're not the Michael Jordan of podcasting! You're the Naismith! I mean...you invented the game! I don't know if i can take all that. Come on! It's all about Michael Jordan he only played! What a fantastic documentary and the whole time it's in your face right there why is this man successful? Because he had a supportive dad. I think that's a huge part of it and you can see all these guys all these Pippin had, you know little different situation but holy crap man dads That's the common denominator that contrast we have to do that contrast between

01:44 LeBron James who didn't have that right strong father structure and In presence compared to Michael Jordan who did? That has to be discussed down the line somewhere because there's a huge contrast there, and I'm glad you brought that up Yeah, it was what was fascinating to see. I really enjoyed it Speaking of father figures this next topic we cover today It's gonna be an influential part of the story as well. Okay, let me roll out the wheel Hold on everybody it is time to spin the wheel of topics where it stops nobody knows Well obviously Moe kinda knows but lets see what were going to discussing on todays episode of Moe Facts with Adam Curry This is episode number 44 The Topic Is... Byron

02:29 Okay, we haven't done a full episode on Barack Obama have we no we haven't and it's this due time is to show 44. Yeah He's the 44th president so ah and coming off the last episode and coming out of the last episode or the Marxism in community organizing I thought it was only appropriate that we take a official deep dive into the topic, which you can't cover him in one episode alone. No his rise was so incredible how it worked in Chicago and everything and forget Hawaii before that but is really quite a tale that has been written about by many people I don't know if people actually know the true story or outside of the narrative we've all heard

03:23 Well, if you just take it on its face value got a man here named Barack Hussein Obama elected in the time where America was fighting a war in the Middle East and he's so-called black by you know how loosely they use the definition but has no lineage to slavery apparently or as it's reported and he has a mom named Stanley. So I mean like if you tell me that's gonna be your 44th president, I'm taking the money against that happening. Right right right I hear ya on that

04:03 So, get into it. I guess we need to just drive right into the audacity of Barack Obama 1 Well, tonight on Hardball we bring you a special report on the audacity of Barack Obama covering the remarkable journey we've witnessed with him through the Obama era. It's a look back at how the president has conducted himself in the public eye and how he evolved into office and how he overcame many challenges that stood in his way We were there from the very beginning when as relatively unknown state senator Barack Obama delivered that rousing keynote address at the Democratic Convention up in Boston back in 2004

04:41 There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America! There's not a black American, and white American, Latino-American, Asian-American... there's the United States of America Well, even at first glimpse we all knew what I did. We're witnessing something special here Here was my immediate reaction after he finished with that amazing speech Oh his leg was tingling? I have seen the first black president there The reason i say that is because Because I think the immigrant experience combined with the African background Combined with incredible education Combined with this beautiful speech Not every politician gets help for their speech But that speech was a piece of work Hey hey! Yeah

05:28 You know what was really interesting about that particular convention? That was the first convention that they gave press credentials to bloggers, and Obama was just swamped. He did a lot of work with the bloggers in the press room. It was definitely a part that has not been discussed very often And two things he said in that the clip I run the bill for one. He's talked about the roadblocks that Obama faced Mm-hmm, I'm not sure like election wise not talking about once you got in office and The pushback they received there but during the election. I don't remember any

06:12 roadblocks. I mean, everything was like laid out for him perfectly by the press by everything else to step right into the position and two he said about the background and he even had Catch himself because he said the immigrant background African American He couldn't say african-american spirit is that's not Technically true right now about this speech. She gave at the 90 on just give me the 2004 Convention my man needy fats one of our best friends if not, my best friend

06:51 We were rapping at the time and he wrote a rhyme. It was like Barack Obama is gonna be the next president or something like that, and we looked at each other now I'm like...I mean this is in 2004 when he wrote this and we're all like...that might be so! And here's a clip! No, no but we just looked and when he said that it was like I was like you might be right. And after that it was just like he came up on the radar and boom! It was off to the running once he came out in 04 but I say this before and I'll say again for this show before 04 I never heard of Obama

07:31 No, never ever. Unless you knew about Illinois state politics or really Chicago politics But that's not the point I'm making. I gotcha I had every copy of Ebony. Ah, I see what you're saying right? We watched BET Faithfully, Teen Summit used to come on Saturday mornings all these shows and never in my life heard a Barack Obama and then he drops out of the sky He just popped out of the womb In 2004, like who is this guy? But nobody questioned his credentials. He's just like who is he and then it was like oh he's our best shot to get a black president so everybody just kind of got behind him Yes and that isn't that's kind of cutting it short everybody just Everyone just alright is that what happened everyone went all right cool

08:24 Well, they gave him the swag test. I mean that was the term at the time used. I mean i'm sure it's drip or sauce or whatever other term you want to use now more recent slang but he had the swag test. He had the bop. He gave the proper dap You know, he had the black wife. Black kids... He going down to checks and then he didn't have the white diction that you normally have with somebody of his credentials so it was perfect I mean when you hear somebody Harvard Law Review and yell and skulls & bones... You don't expect him to talk in that way. Right right

09:05 Okay, so he checked a lot of boxes right off the top. He checked every box How about your mom? What did your mom say when she first saw Obama? Everybody loved him. Yeah, I mean it was like Barack Obama. It means me. I can't explain it It was just no that's not he was uh Don't think people could really wrap their head around. I mean he we're talking bigger than Martin Luther King We're talking Bigger than Michael Jordan, you know on that level of fame but overnight it just came out of nowhere So and was there really want people to understand that was there discussion about his so-called blackness In your family or with your friends? No, no You can question him once he hit this scene It was like he was above

09:54 questioning because it was like, this is our best shot. And when I say us not me per se my generation, I think it was the older hate to use his term but boomers Yeah, they were like this is what we fought for. This is what we Even though a lot of them didn't participate in the civil rights movement. It was like this is what the whole movement was about Yeah, I mean that makes total sense Yeah This was the culmination the crescendo of it all this is where this is what we wanted to have right correct So let's get into audacity too sure was three short years later We got at the place for Abraham Lincoln once stood and Springfield Illinois to appear here The future president kick off his campaign called his day of the year

10:40 In the shadow of the old state capitol, where Lincoln once called on a house divided to stand together. Where common hopes and common dreams still live I stand before you today to announce my candidacy for president of The United States Of America! I think it's so important we look back and catch the dynamic of this, the wonderful trend of a guy who comes from really nowhere. State senator! Basically is on the road to the White House before he was even elected as Senator from Illinois. Outta nowhere! It's magic! How did that happen? How is that possible? Isn't America great?! Hey, America... That's not legit

11:25 observation, I mean out of no- I'm one of these people you know. I follow politics even as a young person just to give people a little bit understanding about where i come from. I was like the junior freedom rider 7th grade treasurer and I have to tell that story another time but, I guess like give a short version of it. Yeah! Seventh grade I win this treasury for my school so...I guess being a black person and winning that and being the treasurer seventh grade? Mm-hmm That put a flag on me to say like Really?! No I'm serious I mean i was like kind of um

12:06 They brought me into the guidance counselor office like, we want you to be a junior freedom rider. And they put us on the bus and we dressed up and kind of went by did I cosplay for civil rights? This is kind of the insight, but I always veered away from that kind of thing like It's just straight seems strange to me because when we went to these functions They're pushing all kinds other stuff like women showing you how to put condoms on with bananas. I'm like Freedom right when you were seven or eight No, seventh grade. Oh, seventh grade! Okay I'm sorry... Alright, she's freaking out. But even then- Yeah but like I thought like I'm pro black? Like my dad was in seventh grade so it was about the right time of day at 13 he gave us all a copy of Malcolm X autobiography on Malcolm X. He's here and like so I'm just waiting and I'm like yeah let's go get you know

13:04 Let's go get our freedom. And we get here and there is all these liberal, looking back now hindsight it's all these liberal policies they're pushing in agendas. Was this a white school? Black School? Obviously mixed what was the degree? It was mostly well Durham is half and half where I'm from Durham North Carolina so I would say maybe 60-40 to 65 35 but At these functions, it was majority... White people telling you how to put a condom on a banana? It was minorities. So you had to be female or yeah it had to be but a lot of females but yeah I was just weird! I mean just give people insight so I kept up with politics. I mean long story short, I was kind of into politics and knew whoever black was running and Barack Obama never came across my radar ever right

14:02 Well, that's the long short four minute story but... You go Freedom Rider Moe! Yeah! Junior Freedom Rider. They tried to indoctrinate me man they tried to indoctrinate me early What happened? I escaped We have to figure out why it didn't work Why the programming failed on you Because i was taught to think for myself by a strong dad Pretty sure that is part of it So I guess we can get away from that long story and get back into Audacity 3. Michael, I think sometimes we got to get away from a president for at least maybe a decade before you can even look back and see him whole What do you think of Obama? Because were going right through this the next 20 minutes Tell me about what you see now

14:49 Well, I think you have to begin by saying that this was a terrific Chief of State. This is someone who with that family and that stature and his persona represented this country well around the world and presided wonderfully over this country in that role You know, the other thing is that we're so pressed right now to have sort of an instant read on Obama's legacy the way that future generations will see him. It's going to depend so much on what follows I know it's somewhat frustrating but let's say Donald Trump turns out to be an effective president and the economy is looking wonderful in a few years. You know, as Trump goes up that's not going to be good for Obama. Oh! There we have it! Yes! Do you know who that was? Michael something... I missed his last name. That's alright

15:46 But there we have it. The media tripled down on Obama, so if Trump is successful then it makes Obama look even worse and makes the media look bad as well So now you see part of the motive of keeping the Obama product And I said product for a reason, because let's look at Obama through the same lens as MLK. I'm not talking about the man here now A large portion of this show we're going to look into the man but to the media he is a product of our control mechanism...I will say this As a politician you probably can't get any better politician than Barack Obama One from one of history's best absolutely

16:41 from the just how to work a crowd and Just the appearance in the family life Perfect comedic timing a pro perfect comedic timing so good He wasn't in women's eyes I've heard this he's not So attractive that he makes men uncomfortable. Yeah, women have a thing for him Oh, yeah He was a lot of women's fantasy sexual fantasy definitely yes Definitely a lot of white women sexual fantasy and then it's no secret And it's in and I also understand that I get that and I would say all women and for especially single moms He was like dad the point to who?

17:34 You're a doofus! Look at you, stupid man with your wife beater. Be like Barack!" Exactly. It was very hard for us married men the Barack Obama years So hopefully we understand part of the reason why the media will always protect Obama and bash Trump because they... The media got Obama elected let's just be honest here I mean he was the media's candidate out-the-box they did everything they could to undermine anybody that got into his way and this, as we'll hear later in the show. This didn't just start with presidential politics. Oh no! No...

18:19 So now we have to get into a set of throwback clips because they lavished all this praise on him and this guy Michael, the last guy that spoke did this weird thing of We really need to wait a decade before we judge Obama. Yeah Because if you look at their facts It's hard to find anything Exactly There is nothing really there especially for black people or so-called black people or quote unquote black people So let's get into this next set of throwback clips from show 23 and we'll start with Tavis Smiley one. This week while we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke to Mr Smiley about what changed over the last decade as Martin Luther King Day approaches on Monday. We started by talking about what areas if any are better for black America now than they were before Barack Obama took office

19:11 I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic category, black America has lost ground over the last decade. In every major economic category we've lost ground so this book comes out as you said in 2006 so clearly this book was out before Obama shows up to win 2008 or the book was never about Barack Obama then this 10-year update is not a about him now but it is true that over these last 10 years most of that on his watch black America has lost ground in the major economic indicator categories. Yeah, it didn't take long for Tavis Smiley to be off the air and this is when Tavis Smiley lost his position in Black Ink

19:51 Yes, you win against the goose that lays golden eggs. Yeah And he told the truth and he received so much backlash and like you said He just vanished. He was pretty much Well, he got sued for so-called sexual harassment and unpleasant workplace atmosphere. Hostile workplace and a whole bunch of stuff. And so then PBS dropped him and then from there just went downhill. He was labeled as one of the worst things you can be in the black community. Really? A hater!

20:28 Wow. A hater! You're just an Obama hater, you know? Is that to this day... Surely that's changed for some people that they don't think that anymore or is he still...? Well subconsciously when putting these clips together that was a subconscious I mean of course it was conscious if i thought about it but It was a looming let me use that word a looming Thought is like don't come across as just a hater right we need we need to have facts no it's serious because- This is a test you can do to see what who you're talking to bring up Obama and see It's the Obama tests, right? You have that. Yeah the old box which he never did anything wrong and keep they'll even they'll go as far too is

21:17 explain away why he didn't get anything done with the first two years when he had, you know everything lined up for him. They'll make excuses for that but at the same time they'll say he's the greatest thing ever to happen to us so those are the old bots and then you have those people this well he was good optics no it's interesting I was talking with The Keeper about this just last night by coincidence I remember when, and i probably have a clip from it somewhere. For the first two weeks after Obama was elected the first time the police were everywhere saying hey we're going to be really on the watch anyone says any racist shit we're coming after you they were like super protectors of obama do you remember that?

22:05 No, I don't remember that but i remember it was like a long like four month hangover after he won of just partying especially inauguration. It seemed like it never ended. Oh yeah there's that you know Yeah um but it was...I'll mention this now just so people if they haven't heard previous shows there was the wink-wink nod nod. The first four years He has to do his, you know be presidential and but if we can just get him to the second term. Then he's gonna do all the cool stuff for black folks

22:43 Right reparations all that you know Yeah, and that was not verbalized But that was the that was the wink-wink nod like we got one in the guy went in And there was no reason not to think that were there any community leaders who were? Spearheading this a wink wink nudge nudge or is it really everyone not even Al Sharpton was saying anything You couldn't talk about it though right cuz I don't want to scare white folks. It's cute Can't scare the white voters, you know. So that was the balance because his... The makeup of what got him elected was a lot of people It had to be a lot of white people Oh sure! Black turnout but he so it's like this balance that He can't seem too scary but he is one of ours You know in many ways I think it was A bit of a reparation vote

23:39 Just considering... goggles or do I just keep going? No, please continue because i'm gonna follow you up. It was not a guilt vote it was really a reparation vote because I think that when people voted for Obama they really wanted to my uncle Republican all his life CIA guy total you know best friends with Bush senior yeah Obama twice And it was really, and of course the hope and change message worked extremely well. Although you know it was I think rightly universally scoffed but the sad thing is I really believe that if Obama had spent time in his second term on doing well let's just call getting tangibles

24:27 I think he could have gotten it. I really do, i think he had the motivation yeah screw the republicans or whatever you know what i think he could have gotten stuff done like real tangible stuff. I'm glad you call it a reparations vote and it's not the fact that is like are we voting because we owe you something? It was the fact that See, if you put up a quality Black person for the job I don't mind hiring them. Like these goes and showing like I'm all about the content of your character. You know they use that line so it was like white people thought see you put up a quality candidate we'll vote for him now i will say this about reparations The same high that we had of post-racial America that they tried to sell us on

25:17 Real reparations will do that and it will have the real effect because it's like Job doesn't mean like we handle that So you can't beat me over the head with anymore and that's why I'm a proponent of reparations, right? So it's done. So it's done and runnin over with yeah now We can start talking about this 400 year narrative which I always say The narrative is just as dangerous at the action because kidding That's what the mental slavery stems from Is there is the narrative so you could put up a Tie that up put a button on it and then you can go in, you know start moving forward slavery. Yeah exactly So I just want to let people know that high and that camaraderie That we had post right right after Obama and pre the beer gate We could get that could be the real that could be the real feeling of

26:15 So, yeah. I guess we can let Tavis Smiley continue on with two talking about how we lost ground. What accounts for the fact that less that so little progress or indeed the backsliding? What accounts for that going on under the leadership of the first African-American president? Why do we explain that? Yeah, I think there are a few things and to your question how do we explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose in the era of the first black president, the bottom fell out for Black America. That's going to be a hard juxtaposition to make I hope you'll be around to read what their account is for why they think that happened but my research and this text suggests a few things in no particular order number one there was too much deference to the President by black people we got so caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on the substance and so symbolism does matter I just think substance matters as well and so there was too much difference in some part

27:10 to the president on the part of black people. Black leaders were sidelined and silenced too often in favor of an invitation to the White House, so more could have been done in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay and lesbian community, uh look at the environmental movement. Of course Wall Street gets everything they want but look at what other communities gained over the last decade and look how black America wasn't just stagnant but indeed lost ground over the last 10 years in part one because we were too deferential." Oh man he's probably ground zero of The Cancel Canon There you go. Can we get one for Tavis Molly please? He never got a cannon because he was before his time, he was trending and as he said it, he was saying why I'm gonna be canceled because You can't say anything bad about him All the leaders were sidelined Nobody questioned him And it was just at least

28:11 Here's the line everybody we use when you back them to a corner and they can't don't have anything from Obama They say at least he showed my kids. They one day could be black president Right, that's that's pretty much the whole legacy at least it starts with at least yeah That's too bad. Yeah, that's really too bad Really a mischance I mean I never I knew very early on something was up, not with Obama. But I was going back and forth between London and San Francisco at the time and in the condo or apartment I was renting my next-door neighbor she was...I think that's maybe where we started using the term an Obama bot And they had camps! She would volunteer and these camps were like

28:59 three days in a row and you'd learn how to harass people into voting for Obama. It was, she was white and really really dedicated compared to now I would say probably with an undertone of a Black Lives Matter type vigor, you know what I mean? Without saying... You're gonna vote for the black man! Almost not verbalizing that but it was pretty clear and also a very strong sense of if you're not for Obama then you're no good. There was a very strong sense of that Let me say like I think I hear if you're not for Obama your against black people

29:42 Well, that's obviously the implication. Yes of course! You're obviously a racist prick. That's what white people do to each other. Well no because it's happening on the other side now with 45 if you for Donald Trump Do you have to be a coon? Okay Hands across the border buddy there ya go It's the same thing It's the same thing. You're browbeating into believing what everybody else wants you to believe instead of having your own opinion. But is a coon just as bad as a racist? Or is a racist worse than... I mean, what trumps in Paper Rock Scissors? Which one wins? So a coon is equal to what they call a race traitor. That's the best explanation. A real traitor, okay. Right. Right. So it's probably the worst thing— It's a hurtful version of Uncle Tom

30:35 You're ousted. I mean, you're ousted from the community. Right? Gotcha. I'm having to tell us about Tavis Smiley but worse. Okay so clear. I got it yeah. So let's guess we'll wrap up with the final clip from um from Tavis number two clearly there was indifference uh there's no doubt about the fact that this president received the kind of headwind that no president has ever received there was clearly obstructionism so that that's a factor as well but the third factor i think I would put as a question, and again historians will debate this for years to come. Did Barack Obama not get enough done on black issues because he was obstructed? Or did he not try hard enough? Did he not do enough? And I think the answer is clearly both we'll see whether historians come down on that but this book again is not about him per se it's about where black America is ten year after that text and again its just not happy report there are pockets of progress but across the board we've regressed

31:31 This was Tavis promoting his book? Yes. Do you know the title of it by any chance? I think it is Black America Lost Ground Under Obama, something similar to the title of those clips. Okay alright, I'll make sure and get in the show notes Alright so that's how we began and how ended So what we had to do now was fill We're not really going to get into his any of his policies or things that nature I want to get into who was Barack Obama before he was presented to us in 04. And then what was the fallout of having him for eight years? That's kind of like where we're going with this show so the biggest fear Of a Barack Obama, I would say from and I'm speaking

32:24 Out of place here because I'm not a white person but a non black person the biggest fear was he could secretly be an angry Black man, right? That's that's the secret in so much. So they had the angry translator at the Press dinner. I believe it was um It was appeal from our key MPM. Yeah Yeah, like Obama would say something and then Peel would translate it in the angry black man voice. I remember this bit yes But so they actually did one on the show On the Kean-Peel show itself unless just I mean it's funny how art imitates life which imitates art right? I mean it's a cyclical thing So let's get into the art portion of it with Obama's Angry Translator

33:18 Good evening, my fellow Americans. Now before I begin, I just want to say that a lot of people out there seem to think that I don't get angry. That's just not true. I get angry a lot it's just the way I express passion is different from most So, just so there's no more confusion we've hired Luther here to be my anger translator. Luther? Hi! First off concerning the recent developments in the Middle Eastern region I just want to reiterate our unflinching support for all people and their right to a democratic process Hey all y'all dictators out there keep messing around and see what happens Just see what happens Watch Also To the governments of Iran And North Korea

34:03 We once again urge you to discontinue your uranium enrichment program. Hey, Mahmoud? Kim Jones?! I think I already untold both y'all! 86 your shit bitches or I'ma come over there and do it for ya'll! Please test me and see what happens On the domestic front... Uhh..I just want to say to my critics I hear your voices And i'm aware of your concerns So maybe if we could chill the hell out for like a second Then maybe I can focus on some shit You know That goes for everybody. Now you have an interesting take on that, tell me again you thought that perhaps people were worried he was a secretly angry black man or there was fear of that? Yes fear of that because they thought behind the smile and... Well who's they white people?

34:51 Okay, I'm gonna say this. This is the perception of black people of white people concerning Obama Good and the fear of voting good him good. I did not take that at all I've never heard this in my core of whiteness. I don't feel it I'll tell you what it but to me it meant and still means Mm-hmm is The guy doesn't have enough black credibility and needs a little toughening up, a little gangster narrative. So yeah he talks like this but this is really what's going down and quite honestly that's not much different than what Trump says in Trump language Hey little man! Hey rocket man! That's why I rang the bell Luther actually sounds like Trump It's like Obama thinks it and it's okay for him to think

35:42 But you just can't say it. And I think that's why people really have it out for 45 Savage is that he actually said, did you just say 45 savage? Yeah, that's my name for Trump. I've never heard this! You have not introduced this on the show? I have you just catch up... yeah 45 seconds. But seriously this is what i love and this is very interesting Of course there are outliers but in general I don't think they were any white people were all-in man like yeah well there was issues of course and it was narrative and the media

36:23 But to me, this was something actually... To me it made it work for him. I was like yeah! Yeah if you know why don't you talk like that? It was actually kind of my... Can I remember this happening at the time? The angry oh no no no no no no no No, I understand why he can do that but- Last thing you could be in America is an angry black man period. I understand and I'm..I don't want to take away from your flow But it's not just as interesting to me that you and we're generalizing You say black people thought that's what white people thought about the black man, and I'm just saying. I don't think so I don't think there was a majority of people scared about him being an angry black man I think they were scared of other things which we didn't which were unknown? You know his real background you got this

37:17 fuzziness of the birth certificate, is he a Muslim? You know there was a lot of shit being thrown in the air. Angry black man not one of the memes I remember that's all doesn't mean it's just as good. That's the undercurrent of being a Marxist that's the undercurrent of being maybe a sleeper cell terrorist you know he's fueled by some kind of anger That's what I'm saying. Okay, and let me... Yeah no, I'm with that. Because like we're saying the anger manifests itself as he wants to destroy America or he's the Antichrist! Or all these things are going on out here. All of that is true, of course It's deep-seated in that anger And lemme say this because we never broached it before

38:09 Before the angry black man black men have to be self-conscious of how we're perceived not to come off as angry and this is a real thing because Just say if I'm somewhere and at work or somewhere, and I have a scowl on my face from thinking like when I'm in thought. Yeah. A scowl? People come to you saying are you alright? Everything alright? It's like what do you mean is everything alright?! That's a real phenomenon and it has to be talked about. And this is why people say, oh wow black men are so docile. It's cause like if I raise my voice you'll say like I'm gonna go crazy! Well and that fears me. It really scares people. You have to be... I had an experience a couple months ago was during the lockdown

39:09 And I just come out of the grocery store and I drive into this very busy intersection. But, of course it's Rona lockdown so there are not a lot of cars...there are cars! So I got a full green light. So i'm just moving and there is this guy who starts crossing the road Look sees me and does one of those slow crosses. So he's crossing on red, you know And it's just really slow now he looked he was he was dark-skinned I He could have been Didn't look homeless look more grifter II but doesn't really matter and you know so I just slowed down and the guys just slept You know, I'm like and so I tapped the horn beep beep

39:55 And the guy goes into a rage and yelling, you know, angry black man. And for me this is the reason why I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise but... I felt so comfortable. It didn't scare me at all! And, and I think the show has influenced me...I'm like, oh alright man you go ahead you wave your arms all you want but I could see the other motorists because I stopped and opened my window and said hey man just chill out bro just follow the rules we've got to do it but I didn't feel scared AT ALL which is new for me because i am sure that would have been in the past

40:33 And just to wrap this up, this is what in black people's mind especially black men the appearing as an angry black man is really what heightens the fear between cops and Black men because it's like you coming into the situation that why you can have one cop. That's cool He's like hey bro, right? Right, and then the next cop comes over like do You know what the difference is between those cops I have no idea. The one cop has done the work No, you exactly right it's really true It's just not the work that Robin D'Angelo is serving up Yeah, but if you have experience with dealing with this cultural, it's like You know um yeah understand very cultural I think that there is a topic for the future we might want to expand on because that's really good one And its and its meta its meta across everything

41:31 So to get to this angry black man that America feared, I felt this clip of this young black man who probably be about the same age as Barack Obama. Maybe a little older but maybe from the same generation but he comes from Adolf's lineage which is a huge difference and makes a huge difference as we're going to hear later on in the show This is what America feared Barack Obama may be. First you tell us that it is manly to keep your word, alright? If you are a man and keep your word and now all of the black people in this country are demanding and even the black people on the whole world are demanding is that you keep your word! You told us we were free well then show us that we're free

42:18 If there is justice, equality for all in this country well then stick to your word and let us see the justice and equality for all or else admit to us that you're not a man. You are one! You are afraid of us. You're afraid to give us equal stand. You're afraid that if you give us equal ground we will match you and override you If that's what you're afraid of, then tell us just what you're afraid of. But don't keep hiding it from us and holding this up to us and every time we ask you for something You give us a little bit of something It's all tokenism! We don't want tokenism And there are most black men in the world who don't want charity Yet still every time we ask you for something you give us a little piece A little piece...You playing games with us? We aren't children!

43:07 I have to put up with all kinds of stuff. He was a big man, he raised the family! He went down south and had to go around to the back door with his wife! We're not asking for anything we're not asking for any favors All we want is what's ours Yeah... So that's what they were afraid off or him being uh when you are that kind of black man or raised by that kind of black men This sounds a lot like my father. I'm just gonna say that as in, I did everything right and you still want to mess with me? And they thought behind that smile of Obama and the cool cucumber demeanor was lying that

43:56 Now, other people had other things that we talked about. Terrorists and things of that nature but I believe in black people's minds we thought white people had that fear and that is where a lot of criticism came from so when you wanted to criticize him you were aligning yourself with that thought. Wow! Hope I made myself clear. Yes, yeah it is totally clear but you also understand that I think Much less in people's minds. I understand the undercurrent no, no No, I'm just explaining to you why he was given a pass and couldn't be criticized of course white people didn't want to appear that way What I just laid out mm-hmm black people didn't want to appear aligned with that right so it's like no very delicate Yeah, very delicate balance but it worked

44:47 Yes, and he knew how to navigate that very well To not play the race car but just like flash it like There it is just a little corner right um so as we learn more and more about Barry We get to see he's the furthest thing from that. I mean he And I guess the people that put him in power knew that. So you're like, you don't want to have a black man with the new codes? I mean anything might happen but they felt safe um that he wouldn't be that way and it's maybe because of his uh upbringing background. To look into his upbringing background we're gonna jump right into it yeah We have a throwback clip from Judge Joe Brown on Barry. Has anybody black

45:41 on Lolo LOLO Sotoro died as one of the 20 richest men on planet earth. Obama is beneficiary of a trust fund along with his two half-siblings He is probably the richest man to ever occupy The White House. Lolo Sotoro was a major in Indonesian Army and a contractor with CIA

46:20 What Daddy did was run death squads for the Indonesian government. He was an executive vice president for Standard Oil and when he decided to set up his own company, in Indonesia where possibly the world's largest oil reserves are located. I imagine he used his position of having an active death squad at his proposal to facilitate some of his business deals and now interestingly enough there are documents documented moments between George Herbert Walker Bush, who was head of the CIA at the time and Lolo Sotoro have certain arraignments. And they were frequent golf partners and Lolo Sotoro used Goldman Sachs as his American financier or financial banking institution

47:21 Yeah, it was really interesting to see that Wikipedia does not have any of that information on Lolo Sotero. No actually you can't find any information on Harley I mean as Jojo Brown said in further clips and if you want to hear more about that go back to show 14 but he's saying in um clips after that Then he had to go like the page 1415 on Google just you know on a Google search. Yeah, just anything Oh Lolo yes exactly well luckily that was poor auto quality because I think judge O'Brien being interviewed in a restaurant over dinner um he did a studio interview and he shared more details on this

48:04 not well publicized past of Barack Obama. And I will say this, Judge Joe Brown he's a very serious person and he's a judge and me. I don't take him to be a hater because that's the word right? He's not Obama hater but if you do your homework you'll start to find some of these things have a lot of validity to them So I guess we can get into the cleaner version, audio cleaner of Obama's past one. And the last one number 44 and one before that 43 Bush and Obama? Well there are pictures or bush with his arm around a eight year old Barack Obama because he is stepdaddy adopted daddy Lolo Sotoro had done a lifetime worth of business with the bushes

49:00 Uncle George Herbert Walker, after whom George Herbert Walker Bush, Bush won president was named founded Halliburton in 1946 in Oklahoma. And Lolo Sotoro had been international executive vice president for Standard Oil. There was talk of him being a CIA asset? Well yes see he ran the death squad for the Indonesian army on his own call anyone could be assassinated so when George Herbert Walker Bush became head of the CIA under the Ford administration. He just got with his old buddy in the oil business, Lolo Sotoro and pulled off the hits. Oh yeah well so reason why I'm laying this out is people like what's the world has to do anything?

49:50 I want to lay this narrative out so when we listen to the clips after this, We can see it through the lens of Possibly Barack Obama being a controlled asset slash, I hate to use this word because it's a loaded term, Manchurian candidate. I don't mean in the terms of he's going to go crazy and do something but just being controlled from the onset. And having done a lot of this work for No Agenda it's probably worth mentioning that it's gonna sound pretty crazy but all of these connections really do

50:28 Makes sense and you know, you can find that I'm putting stuff in the show notes right now about the subterrores and The Indonesian massacres between 65 and I think 1990 And it's it this is not fantasy. And the CIA stuff is also I think demonstrably true And the far more interesting facts and branch on that tree is the Dunham's. Oh yeah, and Dunhams for sure. His maternal grandparents I think his grandfather and grandmother had ties to governmental agencies. But let's just go ahead and let Joe roll he's on a roll so lets him continue

51:09 Even some of the richest people in America don't make that. Why? Because when his stepdaddy died, he was one of the 10-15 richest men on earth and he left everything in a trust fund operated out of Indonesia so the American government can't touch it that makes Barack Obama 1 third beneficiary for assets to one of the 10-15 richest man on earth See so we got a game run on us So, you know that little thing that Bush W does when he gets with Michelle they giggle and he gives her candy The inside thing is that supposed to be the same kind of candy? He used to give to our husband when he was six seven eight years old I Hadn't heard that one. I liked that. Oh yeah, they're always buddy-buddy but dad's so terrorists of Tarot's

52:02 And it's S-O-E-T-O-R-O. They were all in the oil business with the Bushes, same criminal enterprise! Yeah, because you got Zapata oil and I mean that's a killer rabbit hole to go down if you start following that trail because this ties into many historical events. One being in Dallas but i'll leave it at that. Right no he can't remember but George H Walker Bush cannot remember where he was on the day JFK was assassinated He is the only guy! The only guy who can't remember.

52:41 I will say this as just a point, George Bush senior let's just call him that probably ran this country from in my opinion from 1980 onward until Trump got into office. I truly believe that to be so He, I mean because you think they say Reagan's mental capacity was diminishing even when he was in office who was his vice president George Bush and then You hear the stories of Clinton and Bush their connection. Yeah, they hold the whole Iran Contra, MENA Arkansas Billy Boy was a soldier in the Empire

53:30 Right, so like you really didn't have a choice. If you think about it You really didn't have a choice because if Clinton is Bush's guy and they're running against each other Either way it's gonna be ran by Bush Then Bush runs his son against Clinton vice president. Yep And they kind of just called it like ah now Bush won Yeah The Supreme Court kinda called it Right. Well, who came in? I am anyway and then following that you have Obama come in which Obama has clear ties to George Bush senior so we and if you notice how long the flag stayed at half staff that lets you know yes how much pool George Bush Senior had in this country oh yeah massive so I just want to say that because it's critical

54:25 to what power structure Barack Obama really came from. Also, it makes it very understandable why my longtime CIA uncle had no problem voting for Barack Obama. It's the same company, same organization And that goes even further and shows you why the intelligence agency really has one on for Donald Trump You know there is really no bigger man who is a conspiracy theorist than a black man who is a conspiracy theorist This is cultural. Tell me it ain't true, Moe! This is cultural because there's so many going back to... well for me Claudette Colvin and there are so many of these which would be if I said that now in public people like man what's wrong with you this conspiracy theory nut job

55:13 Because we always knew black ink existed and it's like, okay who employs and empowers black ink? So you have to question everything that comes down because what is your motive. Why are you trying to steer me or how are you trying to handle me And this is why we clicked so well when we first started talking I think like that all the time That's...I just condition myself That's what I do But I didn't grow up necessarily having to do that or thinking that. But that's why we connect, I love it! Yeah and that's how i had to grow up because like everybody smiles in your face at your friend you get that kind of thing not to be distrusting of people but you also... And this is why I said Barack Obama dropping out of the sky yeah that's like flag that's a red flag right there That goes totally against

56:07 Just say if we had a community. Oh You want to know who's passing through your town? Your you know, your neighborhood Who's he with who is it connected with sure even old folks would say that like? His family Yeah, he's like oh he's so so Hamilton I know those Hamiltons So for him not to be vouched for and he showed up. And basically vetted, he wasn't vetted at all! At all... But in hindsight we had to start doing some digging and that's what Judge Joe Brown is doing and will continue to do but I will say this now Judge Joe Brown is a huge proponent of black masculinity and black men so if it was

57:00 no fire there, he wouldn't say anything about the smoke. So obviously he has access to information that emboldens him to come out and say these things knowing he could be removed if they're not true. Right so I just want to speak to his own credibility. Yeah the lack of pushback on him on that kind of shows people like Quiet. Yeah, shut up. Shut up Joe. Well we won't shut up Joe and we're going to let Joe continue in clip three. Barack's grandmother has been acknowledged as being the woman that operated the channels through which CIA money went to the Southwest Pacific so she introduced her daughter who had just had Barry Barack

57:53 to Lolo Sotoro and they got married. And Lolo Sotoro adopted Barack Obama, the name was changed to Barry Sotoro. Now when he went to high school in Oahi I know about that high school almost sent one of my oldest sons to it. I could afford it but I didn't think he observed deserved it 20 years ago the tuition was 95 $45,000 a year not including room and board. When Obama went there I've talked to two of his classmates they independently state that the tuition not including room and board was 45 thousand now Business Insider reports his income for 2017 at over 200 million net thats after taxes deductions write offs

58:38 For this last year, 2018 they reported it as $570 plus million dollars. And that's after all deductions tax rate Trump doesn't make that debt. Big Bank Barry. Oh nice! Alright damn So people say well Joe, it's not you got to ask the grind There's other people that would sound these alarms, and this is from the other side of the political sphere. And this is CIA's four stages of completion. A newly released report has claimed that the 44th president of the United States is a CIA creation American investigative journalist Wayne Matson says Barack Obama as well his family including his parents stepfather and grandmother had connections with the CIA

59:32 America, tonight if you feel the same energy that I do. If you feel the same urgency... An exceptional orator promised for the disillusioned and changed from the status quo These are all what helped Barack Obama to become president two years ago but now the reality seems to be something far from that And what is being called a bombshell, investigative journalist Wayne Matson has revealed in the report that in 1983 President Obama worked for the Business International Corporation which was a CIA front. The company used to conduct seminars with the world's most powerful leaders as agents abroad with CIA espionage activities. Matson says this intelligence connection runs in Obama's family. Obama's maternal grandmother Madeline Dunham was one of the first female vice presidents at the Bank of Hawaii in Honolulu

1:00:18 The report says this bank was also a CIA front for funneling money to oppressive dictators and rulers such as former Indonesian President Suharto who came into power through a CIA-backed coup. Yeah, yeah no I know having grown up in the Netherlands i know a lot about the Indonesia story because it was a Dutch colony okay and uh Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot there. And I'll say this... A lot of the topics are really don't dive into about him or around him because they're non-starters. You have half the people that are going to believe whatever they believe and other half is gonna be opposed to that so some stuff i didn't really get into but the things you can prove

1:01:09 It's worth and it makes sense. Yeah, how protective the intelligence agencies were of him Mm-hmm It just kind of explains itself I mean operation mockingbird media supporting him hello It is quite clear what's going on here but I'm laying this out as to say, okay if we look at just say this is true which I believe. I wouldn't be presenting it but i didn't think there was some truth to it um then we have to look at him totally different and how he was presented to us uh as that way because we talked about infiltration in all of the black

1:01:51 established groups or groups that were established to so-called represent black people. So he's like a one man entity, right? He's the one man organization. Like he just He was so polarizing that he drew people around him and it's like now he has this huge protectorate, I mean a huge realm of protection around him that he was bulletproof. And they could use him to push any agenda that they wanted to without any question I think David Axelrod had a big role in this. That was one of his campaign managers. Yep, Dick Durbin Yes, Dick Durbin and also John Brennan. I mean John Brennan was you know he was kind of Obama's shadow guy always from very early on

1:02:45 Yeah, and he's the head of the CIA. And Dick Durbin is the one that told by his admission I didn't want to bloat the clip list too much but just for this one little factoid But he tells a story of yeah, I told Barry after there was when this speech that he gave You're gonna run for president or you need to run it for president It's like he wasn't like told and we start to hear how his path was laid out for him Oh, yeah going to this certain district and you know It's just like it was everything was laid out. It was for him to be where he was at when he was there The path was paved and people got pushed out of the way quite harshly here in there Yes, and I have the stories But let's wrap up with this CIA narrative with the second 15

1:03:37 In the 1960s, Obama's father had been selected by the leader of Kenyan African National Union Tom Mboya to receive scholarship and be airlifted to the University of Hawaii. CIA files indicate that Mboya was an important agent of influence for the agency. The airlift was a CIA operation to train future agents of influence in Africa which was a battleground between the US, Soviet Union and China for influence As a Kenyan student in the University of Hawaii, Obama's father who was already married and had a child with another on the way in Kenya met Obama's mother Anne Dunham in a Russian class in Hawaii. This meeting eventually led to their marriage Barack Obama's mother Dunham was divorced when his son was four

1:04:23 She married Lolo Sotoro after meeting him at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, a center affiliated with CIA activities in Asia Pacific region. She worked for Tim Geithner's father Peter at The Ford Foundation widely believed to be a CIA front. Now Madsen is questioning that if Barack Obama as it suspected was subjected to this CIA project either by brainwashing or being part of it then it'll become problematic for an American president He says if Obama has been brainwashed, then he can be controlled. And if he was simply a part of this project and he can be bribed." I like hearing Tim Geithner in there who later returned as the Secretary of the Treasury, I believe? Yes! They were childhood friends. Now how that just works out... What are the chances? What's the chance that your childhood friend is qualified to be...? Tim Geithner could not be more white bread

1:05:17 I mean, that's a total dweeby douche. So he was out there too? Interesting... There are two points that were made here. One, there was His parents met in a Russian class. Yeah, they have a Kenyan in Hawaii all the way from Kenya to Hawaii. I think I'll study Russian! Why were they studying Russian for? Hmm... Could that you know could that have some Marxist slash communist undertones with it? Possible very possible. Could his mother be a honeypot you know that was put into those classes to see who she could

1:05:56 net and you know, I mean you have to ask these questions when you know how these organizations work. Well also the East-West exchange...I'm just looking through some old CIA documents was an exchange program between the United States and the USSR so that would make sense why she would be in a Russian class right? And at the east west center in Hawaii yes with this key figure from Kenya. Oh yeah, it's fantastic! It all fits I had this part i didn't know this is good like the east-west center stuff that's good. I see homeland...I know how it works. Yeah it's really quite accurate surprisingly accurate yes anything to get the job done so you have

1:06:50 Mr. Barack Obama senior Oh one more thing the Ford Foundation Yeah, which that comes up several times as some kind of CIA connected organization or entity so As a as an aside the Ford I was just doing some research today on Garza and What's her name? Mehdi, the other two Black Lives Matter co-founders. Oh, Mehdi and Colors. Not Colors! I'm done with Colors. Colors is the magnet. Yeah but i went further into Garza. Garza I think it is. Helecia. Heavy heavy funding from the Ford Foundation in a whole bunch of different nonprofits so we're talking millions

1:07:37 Really, really interesting. You get me started Moe and I just go off and do my own homework just for myself. Instead of watching TV i'm like let me investigate this! Now you see what... how.. I know. You got rabbit fever. I know the fever. I know it. So Barack Obama senior this mysterious character that's kind of used in painted to however way they want to paint him. They wrote this interesting book on him, I think it was during the first term but they give some background where there was none on Barack Obama Sr., and this is CNN The Other Barack Obama

1:08:26 He was part of Africa's independence generation and a brilliant economist, yet he was also a polygamist and an alcoholic who ended up becoming the father of an American president. Barack Obama Sr has been somewhat of a mystery to most even to his own son President Obama but biographer Sally Jacobs did the research and discovered unbelievable information about a man who lived a rather complicated life here to discuss her book The other Barack, the bold and reckless life of President Obama's father is Sally Jacobs. Sally thanks for coming on the show a first question to you what inspired you to look into the life of Barack Obama senior? Well clearly there was not a great deal known about him as the campaign went on it seemed that this was a person we needed to know more about There was a fair amount information out there public about would be president mother but the father wasn't unclear figure

1:09:24 Oh, okay. I'm looking up this author by the way. I want to see what her deal is. Yes please do because Sally sounds like a spook! Sally does sound like she's in the basement there tapping up some books for the agency. Okay... But the disdain they have for Mr. Barack Obama Sr is going to be even more... he's an alcoholic and a polygamist. Right, right, right. She basically read the Amazon review I just looked at it. That's exactly what it says. I want to ask this question in this you're gonna see how much disdain

1:10:01 This is what you would call Karen's, two Karens. I hate to use that term but it gets kind of fitting here watch how they tear down Barack Obama senior first leading off with he's a polygamist and an alcoholic right? Right This is a question I always have what is the difference between a polygamous and somebody in a polyamory Polyamorous polyamorous yeah, polyamorous relationship And why is one acceptable than the other but? I'm just gonna put that out there But they notice if you could spin this if he was a favorable character. They can say oh he wasn't um How you said it word again Polly and polyamorous

1:10:44 polyamorous, they would say this. They would say he was in a polyamorous relationship and he's often struggled battled with uh uh controlled substance abuse right you see how the media paints things like, oh it's... That is so good. Well I'm just looking up some terms here So polyamory many several and more love practice of or desire for intimate relationships with more than one partner okay now let's look up polygamy Just make sure we see the practice customer having more than oh, that's really the marriage part. Okay? So which they have marriages they have Polyamorous now with yeah polyamorous marriages sure and I mean this like I said No one going off these but I'm just want to address these things that we come across them that if it is

1:11:39 centered with the man is wrong but if a woman says she wants two husbands that's okay it's always good oh always a winner I just don't think it's very accepting of them to cast this man in this way yes they should check their damn privileges what they should do right they really should yeah definitely well let's continue on with bashing Barack You mentioned in your book that there was a chance and actually some evidence that he actually wanted to put his son, now President Obama up for adoption. What can you tell us about that?

1:12:16 What I found is that in his immigration document there is a memo, in which Obama Sr. tells the foreign student advisor at the University of Hawaii where he was enrolled that his wife Ann Dunham was making arrangements with The Salvation Army to put their baby up for adoption. The baby was unborn at the time. Did they actually do that? It's unclear. Anne Dunham had every reason to do it. She was 18 years old, she was having a mixed-race baby at a time that intermarriage was very rare. On the other hand it didn't seem to be the kind of thing she would do. She took her responsibilities seriously Obama Sr had every reason to put the baby up for adoption At the time he was renewing his visa or hoping too if immigration officials saw him as a polygamist with a mixed race baby that might not have been the best profile to put forward yet family members I have

1:13:07 said that they don't believe there was ever any evidence or any thoughts about putting Barack Obama up for adoption. But do you believe that they were actually considering it, given the evidence that you've seen? I think it's more likely that Obama Sr. told them that to make them think the baby was going to vanish, gave a cleaner profile for him to immigration officials The only thing i do wonder about is he said the Salvation Army did have a maternity home in Honolulu It's interesting to me that he mentioned that Maybe they talked about it didn't go ahead with it? I don't think they made arrangements to actually do it though

1:13:44 You see how they gave the mom a pass? Oh, yeah. Pay attention to that Batman. Yeah, exactly. Batman Black! Wow wow wow By the way this Sally H Jacobs is the only book she ever wrote. Yes Sally That's the only book she wrote. She hadn't written any other books Interesting but she's a touted reporter This smacks of a hit piece and it does he's not like his father and I know people are like, man Moe you're kind of reaching there. You gonna hurt yourself? You reaching? No, you're reaching right up in my field here. I'm loving the reach! Well listen to this next clip part three He speaks so sweetly about his mother Do you think if he was raised by his father he would be president today

1:14:41 You know this is certainly speculative myself. I think it would be unlikely Obama senior was a very brilliant and brave person in some respects He was extremely self-destructive also, I think he wasn't a very nurturing person and was rather self absorbed I think Obama jr Might have chosen a very different life Would be a different person in many respects if you've grown up with that kind of a paternal figure oh geez Huh, did you hear that? Oh yeah. Did you- Excuse me please check your- If his dad raised him Please check your female privilege there holy crap oh man if it's dad that's a hell of a question if he's dad raised him He would shock- Do you think he woulda been POTUS No I don't think he'd be- Nah nah not at all Even though his Dad came from Kenya Yeah To come all the way to Harvard

1:15:30 By way of Hawaii, he was saying basically pulled himself up by his bootstraps. I mean that's the way this story is written Nah, he nah So this must have been Stanley's business It's Stanley. It's all, it's all Stanley and you heard she said he write lovingly of Stanley so but dad not so much I guess let's just go ahead and they're gonna finish him off uh let the let's finish bashing Barack anything positive anything redeeming about Obama senior Absolutely. For starters, he was hugely successful in one sense. He made it from a very poor simple childhood in Western Africa to Harvard you know he was really a brilliant economist also his story was deeply entwined with that of Kenya at the moment

1:16:18 He was a fierce advocate for the African people. He was not happy with the way that government was going and he spoke out very boldly against the administration of Jomo Kenyatta, he did not feel that the little man was getting his fair due and Obama Sr. was very courageous about that at some personal risk And just very quickly what do you think President Obama will think of this book of yours about his father? I think he'll find a lot that he didn't know in it. I cannot imagine it would be an easy book to read, but any child who doesn't know their parent might want to know the true story about him. That's my hope." Wow! What a great move! Don't look over here this is dead end

1:17:02 Any redeemable qualities? No, that's what she said about the man. He was a brilliant economist I will they keep reminding us really it was truly a brilliant economist But obviously you know he was so brilliant that he was just a total loser and a failure He was a rabble rouser. So that's always good Yeah if you want to stir up trouble in Kenya so then they are all for that but this she says well he you know what would Barack Obama think about the book about his father? And she said I think he'll find a lot of surprises, which that surprised me because if i'm the way the narrative went Barack Obama wrote a tell-all book yeah about his dad. The dreams for my father so I would think he would have more information than Sally unless Sally has some resources

1:17:51 resources that we are not aware of. Right, Barack don't have the files that she does according to her and speaking of that book we have a reading from the dreams excuse me dreams from my father there was only one problem my father was missing and nothing that my mother or grandparents could tell me could obviate that single unassailable fact Their stories didn't tell me why he had left. They couldn't describe what it might have been like had he stayed, like the janitor Mr Reed or the black girl who churned up dust as she raced down a Texas road My father became a prop in someone else's narrative The alien figure with the heart of gold The mysterious stranger who saves the town and wins the girl

1:18:41 But a prop nonetheless. Wow, some honesty there! But a prop nonetheless. Wow wow that's brutally honest really. Brutally honest huh in context great to hear that so we here we've seen his dad get bashed now let's listen to in comparison how they lavish praise on Ann Dunham We are back and now to our occasional series of reports on the presidential candidates families. Looking tonight at Senator Barack Obama who's made his life story and his upbringing a part of this campaign he's written and spoken openly about the mother who raised him, the father who left him both of whom of course left behind a big impression NBC's Lee Cowan has our report tonight on family ties I have not had my parents for

1:19:31 over a decade. The beginning of Barack Obama's improbable journey began with an improbable union, an African man named Barack and a white Kenzan named Stanley Ann wed at the dawn of the 60s when interracial marriages were still illegal in many places It lasted, though just three short years and their lives not much longer. Obama's father was killed in a car accident in Africa in 1982 His mother stricken with ovarian cancer died in 1995. It would be wonderful to have the council of parents. It would be wonderful to be able to admit mistakes or just get some encouragement." Instead, he has to rely on what they left him and each left him something very different Obama's father abandoned at age two He left first for Harvard and eventually returned to his native Kenya To this day the elder Barack remains an example for the younger but how not to live

1:20:33 Still bashing dad. That story was set man, that's beautiful! That narrative was crafted creative posted on Wikipedia and good to go Now Adam ask me why that narrative was set that way? You know Moe I'd like to ask you Why did they put the narrative that way so he could identify well So black males could identify with him of not having a father So... White single mothers could identify with him, with his mother and with him. Makes it- you know what I'm saying? Yeah makes them also a little less scary

1:21:12 Yeah, relatable and not... Calm down. He's a black man but he was raised in the comforts of white society so that anger you don't have to worry about it. He's alright! And at the same time they had to paint him as a poor black kid from Chicago. This is the product? I liked the poor black kid from Chicago bit that's the funniest one when i was on the south side Yeah, that's it. That's the bestie they tried to do it with the same thing with Kamala Harris right being for Oakland She's not from Oakland maybe but not the Oakland like you're using that term so now It's the same thing is like she's coming from the block in Oakland right? So You see how they're setting this up there is um

1:22:05 And and is the good and Brock is bad, and he's a single product of a single parent home grew up on the south side of Chicago with a white mom. Yeah I mean this this is the narrative if you ask people that are not Studied on Barack Obama to tell his for Chicago Not Kansas Not these other places, Hawaii. His roots are actually he's to be honest if I looking at his roots coming from his mom side He's a part of the white supremacist Obama has got a lot or lot of rich royal blood in them veins And he is like 14 cousins with Dick Cheney so obviously okay

1:22:53 Black child, but not from lineage of slavery. Mom named Stanley his name's Hustain who's got a cousin that is gonna be vice president one day and he's lucky enough to make President. That was...and you know the Bushes at eight years old. Is this a great country or what Moe? Oh man look at what's possible it's crazy I'm taking the under on that. I mean as far as So let's continue with the NBC nothing traditional, I watched myself for some of the things that I know Ended up hurting him too much pride

1:23:40 uh... on inability to listen other people the photos are things that i guard against in myself but in that fatherless void stood his young mother who remains more influential than anyone yet how for example when brian williams showed him on the cover of newsweek for the very first time your way senator's reaction was not about himself you know it makes me think of my mom and uh... You know, she's not around. Obama's half-sister, Maya remembers that there was little traditional about their mother I think it is interesting to look at the patterns how our mother started in the Midwest

1:24:17 and ended up in Indonesia. And how he started in Hawaii, in essence, and returned to the Midwest." And friends who knew Stanley-Ann early see her in him all the time. The passion he brings I think a lot of that's something you learned from his mother's knee Sessions that stopped when he needed them most. When I was writing that speech on race, I'm the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. Her memory loomed over me as this is something she would trust A reality check he still seeks You know at night if im saying a prayer I send out maybe a little message to my mother hopefully she's somewhere can hear it

1:25:05 You know, of course without Mo Fax I never would have caught what was going on here. This was totally shaping him to be completely relatable to the black man as well! Just by the parental situation and then totally pushing all that towards how great his mom was solidifying the matriarchal structure This is genius. What I always say about our community, it's a matriarchy. It's not a patriarchy so to get black women to buy in they had to relate to them on the single parent level issue

1:25:49 And we even heard on a previous show Michelle Obama referred to herself as a single mother at one point. That was one of my favorites! I mean, they're pushing that narrative of single mothers and single child... I happen have that clip if you want to hear Flo just say it for second Please, please.

1:26:34 It's the narrative and they know the narrative they're pushing. Yeah, it's in the back of her mind and the truth just came out. Oh crap wasn't supposed to say that. Exactly! So I found some video from the Ann Dunham Serato Endowment Fund And this thought would be interesting just to hear a little take on that Our mother was a scholar and she believed very much in learning from books. She could spend hours in the library, but she also believed in learning from people who are committed to honing their craft, walk in the streets and she felt like the whole world was a classroom. When Anne Dunham-Sotoro applied for her PhD in anthropology at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, she had already invested significant time and energy to improve the quality of life for craftspeople in rural Indonesia

1:27:31 In the introduction to her dissertation is what I found a very interesting statement. She said, this work is the result of 14 years of research in Java and it was perfectly true she knew that place inside out and was driven by the desire to partner with others to create lasting change. While working at the Ford Foundation, a United States agency for international development she collaborated closely with a range of non-governmental organizations who support programs addressing women and poverty USAID is is the big tip off The Ford Foundation of course but USAID that is the United States International Aid Division

1:28:16 That's where we fund non-governmental organizations in countries from that, who are there of course sending back intelligence. That is the fund. That's the one you want the money from. And his mother reminds me a lot of... and her name slips my mind just that fast... wrote for 16 Magazine. What is her name? It'll come to me. Big time feminist in the 60s Oh, oh yes of course the CIA woman. We both know her name! Was it Anita Bryant? No no it was the other one it was Gloria Steinem That's it Yes His mom gives me the Gloria Steinem vibe

1:29:03 Oh yeah, I can see that. Absolutely. Remember when the CIA came to her and was like can you write for our agency? Gloria Steinem was...and then the age makes sense. Right on. Gloria Steinem absolutely known she was a CIA agent she admits it or an agent. She went operative. She did stuff for them So we're fast forwarding from his childhood and when we know about, we went through how he was raised by in Indonesia and Kansas. And we fast forwarded to him going to college. At Harvard, We have a eyewitness account from Dr Randy Short which we played some of the clips from him before. I like to call them Dr Messy because he always gives us something more even further than what you would expect from him

1:29:51 with his shocking insight on Obama at Harvard. But I think he was placed here, I don't think we elected him, but I think he was selected. He was selected and I saw him being selected 29 years ago walking through the law school on a weekend how Obama manipulated the white students to make him head of the Harvard Law Review in exchange for him to stab all the black students in the back. And I happened to stumble into a meeting at The Federalist Society, and what I heard

1:30:27 was a man saying how much he hated black people and how black people were stupid and how they were despicable, and how he could control them. He knew how they felt about him. And I've listened to this person-and i'm telling you my fear that discerned it was a black man about six foot six one bisexual biracial so I walked quickly through the Harkness Common which is a student union at the law school and saw Obama The audience turned and looked at me, we looked at each other. I was so angry about the stuff he said about black folks but i realized wow! I'm outnumbered this what difference did that make? So I stormed out the building and asked some people

1:31:05 Who's the mulatto in there? He lies like Richard Nixon on crack. He's gonna be president, who is that?" And that's where I heard the name Obama and if he were made head of the Harvard Law Review, he would keep the blacks in check for the most ultra-conservative agenda whatever they wanted to do because black people look at him and they trust him although he wasn't one of them. Wow! He's a... Who is Randy? He's the radio guy, right? Dr. Randy Short? Yeah no, Dr. Randy Short he was uh-he's a doctor and he's the one that broke the news on our show about the Depo Vera shot. Oh yes! Harming black women Right So I mean he's you know he's considering valuable resource in the quote unquote black conscious community or black

1:31:59 Non-mainstream community. I like conscious community that's a good one and like that So Randy here he gives a statement on Barack Obama, and I'm just gonna take it on face value I'm not gonna say I mean, I don't have no reason not to believe him but that's a very inflammatory statement but It aligns with his membership in Skull and Bones, which you said before about him being a white supremacist. Well the skull and bones is the preeminent- it's the club by the definition that we use of white supremacy it is THE CLUB uh and for he's not in the black man's skull and bones what we call the boulet um he's actually in yeah he's actually IN the skull and bones

1:32:48 So we have the Illuminati. Yes, so we had big he has to have some understandings of how this world has to work To be in it to being that group uh? So I think he this is why he's such a moderate because on one side He's been pulled in one direction to the right but then to maintain his cover or maintain his credibility he asked leveled his self off by the left. And that's the reason why I think he chose Chicago as his home, one of the blackest cities in America outside Detroit maybe Washington DC

1:33:29 His wife has strong roots in the community. Her father has strong roots in the community, so it just made sense and then he needs to start building up on those credentials you have Oprah there I don't know how connected they were or how long that connection goes back but it is a connection. I think there was a path you know? There were people who saw a pathway within the state government that would be a pathway for Obama Yeah, because I mean the Democrats pretty much run Chicago. We said this before The kind of power they have so pretty much whoever they want to win certain elections They could give him a win when he needed this Lori Lightfoot that just proves it doesn't it? So I think he had to ingrain himself in Chicago society and that brings him to Reverend Wright's Church yes

1:34:24 The controversy started with words spoken by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright in a sermon. In one of them, he blames America for a long history of military policies that he says caused the September 11th 2001 terrorist attacks. We bombed Hiroshima! We bombed Nagasaki and we nuked far more than thousands in New York and the Pentagon And were never better than us Most Americans would not normally have heard about these sermons without Reverend Wright's connection to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Wright is the retired pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, where Obama is a member. Obama has called Wright his spiritual mentor and the man who brought him to Christ But once the fiery pulpit remarks were made public in March and widely disseminated on the Internet, Obama condemned them

1:35:18 In a speech he called Wright's view of the U.S., profoundly distorted. Reverend Wright commented on that Monday Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on soundbites, based on polls. Wright says the black church is invisible and misunderstood by what he called the dominant culture meaning white America. I said this is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright has nothing to do with Senator Obama it's a attack on the black church launched by people who know that nothing about the African-American religious tradition. This I think this revelation was one of the first videos, I believe to kind of go what we then wouldn't have even known what to call it but viral on YouTube and that's why it had to be addressed. Of course there were some media outlets playing it questioning it. I think they already were prepared for it but people had questions and so they had to build something around that and smother this

1:36:20 And with the Reverend Wright situation, this was that fear of the angry black man again. It's like oh, this is the kind of preacher he said? That's yes now I get the angry black man bit yeah that scared people! The way Wright was talking... Yeah that scared people So two things he said there one He said that people don't understand the black church. When I heard this, i was like eh? I've heard that before! It wasn't shocking to me um...I think this is part of why people congregate the way they do because

1:37:01 certain truths are Certain things that are perceived to be true by that community can be voiced without Repercussion right? It's like okay when I went in church looking around. Okay, so not with black people All right now we could talk like all right now we can go It's the barbershop effect the same thing right you can look around like oh, okay Now we can really let loose So when he said that it didn't really I'm like, it's nothing i've never heard before. I mean from coming from that type of preacher because they're not every preachers like that but you have those fire and brimstone people that bring that kind of narrative sure what I want to do is and this was all we can do on shows like this I want to listen to Reverend Wright

1:37:53 comments because all you heard was goddamn America. We never really saw the full thing unless, you know even YouTube was clipped just to say the horrible things yeah that's why we have a podcast so we can roll it all out So I want to hear this almost a minute and 30-minute portion of that sermon in context so you can hear what he was actually saying. And the United States of America government when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly she failed. She put them on reservations when it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed! She put them in internment prison camps when it came to treating the citizens of African descent fairly America failed! She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters, put them

1:38:48 action auction blocks put them in cotton fields put them in inferior schools put them in substandard housing put them in scientific experience experiments Put them in the lowest paying jobs. Put them outside the equal protection of the law kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives him the drugs, builds bigger prisons passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America? No no no not god bless america!

1:39:25 God damn America that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating her citizens as less than human! God damn America, as long she tries to act like she is god and she is supreme! Okay, yeah Hopefully that puts his statement into context. He just could come out the back saying goddamn America But it's like fine you find people on both sides I mean if you only see a little bit and you don't get the whole Context everything that was said then you really miss out on what he was saying which obviously how can you disagree with? With with up until he starts goddamn America but even that makes sense in context

1:40:10 But in the full context, because I didn't want to make it a three minute clip. What he was saying was by the standard of the Bible all these kingdoms in the Bible that didn't do the people right, God took them. God damned them! In a literal term he like fire and brimstone, you know? Killer of salt wiped them off the face of earth... This is really telling and I wanted to add to that he was reading that. I heard him do a prompter flub twice Yeah, I'm sure he goes off of a prompter all the time. But it's not like he is just a fiery preacher who comes out straight from God to his mouth but he was reading it. It's kind of sad... there comes the angry black man bit because what he said was totally on message for what we've discussed and see as the problem

1:41:15 He had to go. He was probably seen as an asset who would really help and somehow, I'm just gonna go out on a limb maybe Fox News or one of these outfits just started slamming the crap out of the goddamn America, goddamn America and that became the narrative. And he had to go then he had to go then he got like you gotta go sorry Obama even came up to his defense a little bit in the beginning if I recall. He did until it got too hot right now i'm sure the Democratic Party was like hey you gotta let him yeah you gotta let him go um but

1:41:55 Barack Obama wouldn't be the person that he was politically if he wasn't anchored by that same church in Chicago. So it's like, if you give him one hand and take from the other... How did he do that? I think Reverend Wright... What happened to Reverend Wright? Did he just melt away into the background? Yeah, he I mean once nobody's above Barack Obama. So once he was bad for Barack Obama He was bad for black people and he was cast away now Reverend Wright has some interesting background himself because he was like nurses something for one of the presidents or something so it's like when you hear this man um If you want to look that up, it's on nothing is on his wiki page but um When you hit this man talk about goddamn America, it's not like he's a some

1:42:43 a person that hates America or never believed in it. I think when black men get to certain age, they get no disillusioned like what? I put all my energy into being against like the man was saying that the fear of the angry black man like we did everything right You say you are you to be a man. You gotta keep your word. You said it's equal country What what was the problem right? Right, but yeah Reverend Wright has government He was in the military and he there's a picture of him and one of the presidents I can't well, he actually served three presidents Okay, I know that was one for sure but John Johnson he served Johnson That's the nurse part

1:43:28 And he also worked with Bill Clinton, of course. But they made him seem like this Farrakhan figure. Wow, and you know that's so interesting I in my mind I had written Reverend Jeremiah first of all reverend so we don't know where he's coming from He knows what side the bread is buttered on if you don't mind me saying They always give me a biscuit on my birthday But, but can't deny that message. The message was right I mean it would have...I bet I'm more convinced now than ever that he was supposed to be a part of it and just screwed up had to go

1:44:13 Yes, but this is Barack going back to the right. Like I said he had to walk the center line and it's you got the Reverend Harris...I mean not Mr. Reverend Harris but Bill Harris things floating around all out in the ether and then now you've got this angry Farrakhan type preacher saying goddamn America! It's like hey slow it down, you need to write a speech and smooth things over Well not write one, you need to read one Yeah, well read one. So Barack Obama I mean, excuse me. We have a clip of Larry Elders he's talking about this sweet path that was laid out for Barack Obama. I mean we gotta consider Larry Elders he is a conservative so obviously he has an obvious bone to pick with Barack Obama but i think this is a fair assessment on how things were laid out for Barry. Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit David Axelrod writes in his new book, Im just not very good at bull****

1:45:11 Obama told Axelrod. Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriage, Axelrod admits to counseling Obama to conceal his position for political reasons end of quote Let's get back to it So Obama then moves to Chicago not from there He joined the Trinity Church because of the desire for political connections And he decides to run for state senate because the incumbent decided to run for another office. She changes her mind, decides to keep her office Obama says I'm sorry i'm staying in the race. Obama then challenged all of his signatures that he had filed to run for re-election and essentially got her kicked off the ballot so Obama won without any opposition Then Obama decides to challenge Bobby Rush for Congress He primaries him

1:45:57 And Bobby Rush, the former Black Panther kicks Obama's butt. How and why? Because he characterizes Obama as not truly black from Harvard taught at University of Chicago Carpetbagger not really from Chicago didn't really understand the culture yada blah etc Obama even complained about it So what did Obama do when he got his butt kicked He redesigned his state senate district to make it more white More affluent more Jewish less black less poor Explain to me how racism has hurt this man. And then he decides to run for U.S. Senate, and he's not likely to win but little by little by little scandal and other things knock off the front runners. He runs and he wins." And that was Axelrod. Axelrod brought out all the dirt on his opponents. Yeah so Axelrod in this gay hiding his true views on gay rights

1:46:54 That whole Joe Biden coming out first instead of Barack, that was all planned. Because Barack just couldn't for lack of a better term and no pun intended just come out the closet you know what I'm saying? And say hey! You know what I'm saying? I'm for gay marriages now so it's like hey Joe go out there you why don't you slip it out like slipping me right you out me and then I'm like what am i gonna do right well that was planned in my opinion oh that's that's an interesting take because the way I always saw it was Joe is such a bumbling fool that he spilled it accidentally yeah and now now that I'm reconsidering this thank you. I think you're right, but you know what?

1:47:36 Joe still probably wasn't part of the plan. They probably said, Joe whatever you do don't talk about the gay marriage thing! Joe don't talk about... Joe DO NOT talk about the gay marriage thing! So Joe talks about the gay marriage thing and boom and then Barack was like oh well yeah we were good all the legislation was ready they had everything good to go I'm gonna agree with you. And it was real touch and go there in that re-election because half the black church... It was a civil war in the black church over Obama Over the same sex marriage? Yes, because like are we really putting Obama above Jesus

1:48:19 I mean that was the, where does he hang in the trilogy on the wall? Does he hang above MLK? Does he hang right next to Jesus? Well JFK comes down and Obama goes up. You still gotta keep MLK and Jesus. How about Oprah? liberal feminist wall. On the general black wall, it's still Jesus MLK and Barack Obama but that silver word did happen because it's like people that are Bible-based believers... I don't care what you, I don't care what Obama said

1:49:05 At the same time, it was well we... The second term you know. We got to get this second term! This is really when he's gonna... No we didn't come this far. You know what I'm saying? Keep our eyes on the prize. Yeah keep going push push let's go it's important He's gonna do stuff for us Yep, and then the role laid out for him. I want to say this one thing is I truly believe we saw trading places happen in real life with Barack Obama and Senator Edwards from North Carolina. I truly believe that's the only competition Barack Obama really had he really stole his identity if you'd really look at this really Oh

1:49:47 Yeah, look at um... what's his name? Not Harry. I was about to say Harry Edwards not Harry Edwards. I'm off of the names today but uh Edwards he had the perfect hair and he was like the JFK reincarnated but then that story came out yeah John Edwards they removed John Edwards oh yeah they canceled him over a haircut remember that Yeah, they kept him over that but they were looking for anything to get rid of him. Oh yeah because he stood in Barack Obama's way He was a douchebag, he cheated on his wife, he stole campaign funds had a $300 haircut and this airplane on the runway oh yeah They went after him But prior to Barack Obama he was the favorite to be president Really? Needed to be...yeah, yeah He does have that kind- He had to be eliminated He stepped right into his shoes and was like aww yeah I'm the

1:50:37 for every American. I really believe that and the reason why I say trading places is because that's kind of how the movie went, right? They took the white guy out put Eddie in and they were like see Mortimer we approved you! One dollar! Good point They talk about the narrative of the gay rights, but this is other narrative that they had to keep running. And that's the slave narrative or his connection to slavery. Yes. His legitimacy when it hit me because like okay I was all for Obama

1:51:18 I saw where the money was coming from funding and i was like they're not giving him that kind of money if he's gonna be a real revolutionary type figure because all the banks is lined up when you say had the blank checks ready like whatever you need and that's what i was like i don't know about this guy uh And just as a small story was, I was in Chicago actually the day that he won the nomination. It was me and my brothers were on a road trip. Huh? And it's just like... I have a connection there right? Just like I was in Chicago when Obama- Sure! That must've been great moment. We're actually at this little bar and everybody was happy. I mean never remember people being...it was a black establishment so it was just like a sense of pride. So I get how people gets sucked in

1:52:04 But let me just I just want to say that point but the slavery net way hit me was our memory he won and I woke up the next morning and I saw a picture this little old lady and it said from slavery to the White House. I was like Obama ain't never been no slave. Uh-huh, but they were talking about all y'all are nudging me before I knew what a nudge would buy this felt is All y'all are playing with us. So this whole narrative and then people start getting hip like he's not really one of us I mean that's what Bobby Rush was saying right? And when he ran against him, He's not really one of us so

1:52:45 There was this concerted effort to keep Barack Obama tied to slavery. And if they couldn't do it through him, they did it through Michelle. This morning we are learning fascinating details of Michelle Obama's roots. Today's New York Times traces her family's five generation path from slavery to the White House We're joined this morning by genealogist Megan Smolniak who uncovered Mrs. Obama's family tree, good morning. Good morning! This is almost like a mystery we knew for certain that on her father side of the family traced back to slavery but there were rumors about on her mother side how did you make the connection and who was the key person?

1:53:30 Well, I'll tell you. I worked back methodically generation by generation but of all her ancestors the one who called to me the most loudly was one named Melvinia who was a great-great-great grandmother and she was just fascinating for example i found a codicil on her from 1850 where she's first mentioned she is only six years old. And in that document, her first owner, a fellow by the name of David Patterson is leaving her to his wife when he passes away. There it is! I mean there is the actual will and testament and this little girl is named...she's six years old She's also listed as another piece of property What is your value? $475

1:54:09 Oh man, wow. They got it all! That's fantastic from $475 to 500 million. Yep, property. She's property but nobody questioned Michelle's lineage to slavery I mean that wasn't a question so they had to keep digging and then they find a new discovery of Obama's ancestry President Obama story is well known his father from Kenya His mother from the United States But Ancestry.com says it has mapped out the Obama family tree going back 11 generations with stunning conclusion Anastasia Harmon is the company's lead family historian

1:54:47 Our conclusion is that President Obama, the first African-American president is the 11th great grandson of the first documented enslaved African in what would become the United States. The link is made not from his father's side but from his mother and Dunham's lineage She was connected back to a man named John Punch Records show punch who lived in Virginia had children with a white woman Those children later became known as The Bunch Family The findings of the two-year study are now posted on the company's website. So how did the research team figure this out? As we're going from President Obama to his mom and grandmother and great grandmother, you're looking for birth and marriage and death records all those kind of records as we get farther back in time though they weren't kept

1:55:34 or they've been destroyed over time. The Civil War, a lot of records were destroyed fires floods and things like that so we start looking at what we call surviving records church records land records and so when we get really far back into like here John Bunch III who's born in 1680 he is from here on out we're looking at land records. University of Maryland history professor Ira Berlin says all of this is perfectly plausible because there was a time when white indentured servants and black slaves freely intermingled Oh, that's before Black Lives Matter So the first black president whose son is Stanley, named Barack Hussein Obama. Yeah Is connected to the first slave ever Exactly In America What are the chances? On his white mama side Thank you Ancestry.com

1:56:28 Man, if you don't get out of here with this. But it's like we have to tie him... They was feeling the pressure. They were feeling the pressure. We had to do something here. We gotta find something. We gotta tie him to slavery. Yes wow! But The Magic Waroff and even his most ardent supporters became disillusioned with Barack Obama and his whole do-nothing attitude for black people. And one of those being Michael Eric Dyson, so I have a clip from Michael Eric Dyson then... and then we're gonna go see how he's become dissatisfied and even maybe angry. Angry black man at President Obama So let's start off with 30

1:57:17 We began with Barack Obama's election to believe, many did that we're living in a post-racial society. Been there done black over with it. And what happened of course is that Barack Obama, unexpectedly to some just evoked all of this racial animus and hostility you mentioned Dylann Roof the young white man who murdered nine people in that Charleston church he wrote a kind of crazed manifesto and in it he said you people are taking over basically I have to do this

1:57:57 A whole other story, Dylann Roof is. Oh that there! Yeah manifesto of sorts he wrote yes all convenient so that was Mayor Eric my excuse me Michael Eric Dyson then caving for Obama and you know explaining away all his issues Now, let's... where are you at, Warren? Make meaning speak, sir. You have the bully pulpit of the world before you just can't accumulate chips and cash and make money And I ain't mad at you make all the money you want make all that one of unique get your paper But speak up about Donald Trump you out office when you were in office we made excuses for you Oh my god He can't talk because they'll out voting you ain't got to be voted on our office no more where you act oh

1:58:59 Obama, we love you. I know a lot of black people are going to be mad but speak up! You feel he needs to do more? Oh my God... More?! What has he done!? What has he done? Name it! What have you done since you've been out of office? You spoke up for one politician and said she should be in the office? You ain't helped out no black people. You certainly undermined the candidacy of Keith Ellison to be head of the Democratic National Committee, right? DNC And got your man in, I ain't mad Perez is a good dude but i'm saying you undermined the black man. So the black man that people suffered for who were black and who said he should be supported undermined the black men aint got nothing to say about it. I know y'all man tough! Tough? What's the word-I mean this has gotta be a common question what are you doing Barack

1:59:48 Why aren't you saying anything? Everybody would, I mean and as he only comes out when he's allowed to. I mean because it's clear if he's told what he can speak on uh and what he can't speak on But and then Eric, Michael Eric Dyson did something tricky there. He said what have you done? And then he had to think about like oh I cosigned his whole eight year uh... Every part of it yeah Right What have you done since that? So then he had to qualify with the right because he knew wait I co-signed him so you could even see You know what i always thought? I always thought that the plan was this is gonna sound weird

2:00:28 There was like a president of the world slot for Obama and that was, you know... just take into account. Oh the UN! The UN theory? Something like that yeah something along those lines I mean it would have he was young enough you know is young enough to take 10 years 15 years to create something if Hillary Clinton become president we might have actually seen Black Lives Matter turn out very differently And just look at some of the cities that are in on it. It's obvious now, I mean you don't leave people burning crap down in your city for eight weeks so there was some...I always felt there was some plan and then Barack Obama would emerge and

2:01:11 you know, reach his arms and make it all well. So you sound like that has expired I think that's...and i said before..I think this is what the whole Joe Biden thing is Joe Biden is the perfect proxy for Barack Obama to run a country without taking any blame Right No no im with that but I thought was gonna be bigger I thought was going to be a bigger thing Yeah he can't really do that because But I think people disillusioned me like, it's uh... People are done with him. It's like he- He literally been canceled for- To be honest with you because the people that got him there he can't activate them to go vote so what good is he?

2:01:58 That's it. That's all you gotta say is he can't activate people to vote so he's just no good, he's useless You heard how he talked to his last... I mean for Hillary Clinton Yeah Don't clap! Go vote! He was saying that For my legacy Who are you talking too like that? Right, for my legacy Yes, for me But Michael Eric Dyson, he didn't stop there Where are you Brock What's at the core of that? What do you think is at the core of what you see as a lack of willingness to engage. I mean, that's his personality. That's that Hawaiian chill out personality and he ain't got the same kind of ethos, pathos pain hurt and agony that black people have had

2:02:44 I'm not saying he's not black, that's not what i'm saying. I'm not saying he ain't truly black- He is! Blacker than a lot of black people I know but he didn't have that existential misery growing up in the same way...he doesn't have the same anger necessarily that black people have uh..that we're outraged by this stuff. He didn't feel it in his gut the same way. I'm not saying he aint' black, he's blacker then black I've known Obama since 92, one of the blackest dudes that I know. But what i'm saying is that your being black ain't got nothing to do with the kind of blackness and the kind of experience you had and endured And so you don't feel driven to speak out You're not LeBron James who said I'm going represent for my neighborhood where I came from regardless of all the cash I got It's time to put the fire under Obama too! You outta office now

2:03:26 All the Negro excuses made for you while you were in office to, for us to say wait till the second term. He gonna do something way to the last half of the second term he going to do something. What'd he do? And I'm saying finally got on the criminal justice reform. Okay and I'm saying this out of a love for Obama. I know there's some Negro bots out there. There are some Obama bots who can't hear nothing they just as bad let me tell you what Obama boxes is just as bad as these Trump supporters who can't hear criticism if it's your guy Be willing to say, you know what? I love him. I'm gonna ride with him right or die but there's some stuff he could have done better Wow! I heard you...I almost heard you talking there That was really funny What happened is Eric litched his wagon to Obama's train

2:04:12 and now the train is not moving off the rails. So now it's like, well where is the most lucrative angle on Obama? And that's questioning him- Where are you?! You know we did all these excuses and yes! You are saying...and I'll say it for you Barack Obama is NOT black!! I will say it there! There you have it he tiptoed around and he realized he said it Then he had to walk it back for the next 15-20 seconds. I'm not saying he's not black He's more black than black He's blacker in the back of forest with his neck So he did that so he did this a thing Bobby Rush did but then he's like, uh I went a little too far and had to back in know a reason why I said black he's not black if you want to say black is they

2:05:03 creation of black ink he didn't hold true to what he was supposed to do right and that's the throw black people either the Throw his weight behind their their causes even if you can give him change at least last year make an effort He could have said reparations for everything answer every question like brought what you want for lunch reparations I mean that kind of thing so You're so right. Even though you can't get it done? And if he would have left saying the only thing we haven't gotten done yet America is this... It would have been left lingering and it would have been a question that would've been on everybody's mind, but we know that that's not the way it works. And all this time he talks is when this comes down to voting and it's just saying... He brought up Barack Obama, Eric Dyson brought up LeBron James. It's the same thing they're funded by the same group of people that you can speak on what we allow you to speak on, but China? No! Reparations? No!

2:06:06 If you want to talk about putting silly names on back of jerseys or whatever, go for it. Voting? Go for it! But other things no. So they're... They're owned in a sense. I mean, it's no easy way to put it and to say... And now let me flesh out what I'm saying so I don't sound like Michael Eric Dyson backpedaling on if he's black or not. And then you want to say remember the two definitions of the black we laid out uh on the last show? If you're talking about lineage, he's not black! He is not You're not Adolfs, which that is synonymous with black. Which they stretched it out to mean whatever they want you now with these two definitions But like I said, I'm really back but no by the debt two definition He is not black that was laid out by not my definition That was laid about out by Miss colors in her own Yes and a statement last kind of sad that Dyson here that he can't just be honest about it And he had to double down because he kind of flubbed it

2:07:07 It's kind of sad. Well he has to go to the liberal universities! Yeah, well that's the system. That's why we do a podcast so we can actually say these things and get down to some brass tacks And speaking of what we do, I think this is a good time to explain people exactly what we do. First the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white men has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro and the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak in their mind without hurting the feeling of the right man then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way but they'll never do it

2:07:50 Yes, and the only way that'll ever work is without corporate interest and pharmaceutical companies wanting to advertise. And any kind of corporate funding of this will not work it has to be two men sitting at the table hashing stuff out and that's why we have adopted the value for value model here on MoFax with Adam Curry And I'd like to thank our executive and associate executive and other producers for episode number we had 44, of course. Never forget that yes. Episode number 44. An again this is you get out of it what you put into it as a lot of work that goes into this and a lot of time and effort and the only way for it to be sustainable and for it to grow quite honestly

2:08:35 Because who knows we could take this you know it where we could take us The sky is the limit mo. We just have to focus and do the work, and we'll get there But we can't do without your help, and that's why I'm very pleased to start off by thanking Jackie green actually think the Green family who came in with a The magic numbers 333 33 and a note that says great new episode fellas keep up the good work love from the green family is this now we know the Green Family they've donated before have they not? I believe so. Yeah, I believe Mr Green and Mrs Green have donated separately now it's the whole family? I think that's what it is... yeah I think some of their different names I think that's why don't recognize the name but I remember the green family well we really appreciate that support that's fantastic and they are top executive producer will put the whole family in there just to make it clear

2:09:26 Eric Darian checks in with $200. Noah Jen the Knight here, I've heard Adam talk about this show for a while and at the urging of my fellow NA listener Rod Williams I decided to give it a listen. I am so glad i did! Thanks for the insights. I cannot get anywhere else That's Aarad Darian from California. Thank you, Aara! I'm glad you showed up. Enjoy and archive.mofax.com goes all the way back to episode number one and i might want to point out that in exactly one week from today...I think it'll be is that going to be one with no less than a week

2:10:06 Less than a week. July 31st will be our one year anniversary, one year of MoFax with Adam Curry that went by fast Mo! It went by fast but it's been like in slow motion it's like weird... The time went by fast, but like it's made every day eventful. Yes I guess this is slow down the days with the time when the Lapsing time when we was huge well if you look and i will also want to say thanks for rod rod will Williams as Well for doing the doing the work Doing the important work but look at the body of look at the body of work that there is man That's a lot with it. We had 1200 hours of content 120

2:10:49 Yeah, it's 120. No 1200 1200 is incredible yes Whatever it is more than 24 it sounds like a lot of work So and in the learning on both sides just just I it's enriched my life. I'm incredibly happy Can we stop right here talk about the peerage? Order how we want to do that. Yes, because I'll and I'll give you my immediate input so we've been talking about Instituting levels for the value-for-value system when they have to do it We're following the model that no agenda And no agenda producers birthed and over many years and it works and so the idea is we have levels and then you receive a reward for achieving certain support levels and with the Noah Jenna show we have Knights and dames

2:11:43 and they become knights and dames of the Noah gender roundtable. So we were looking for an analog here, I like that a lot of people say the same thing although i'm not really sure it's the right one. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. See when people see that... Well, I'll give you my thoughts so people say we should have this level be Invited to the cookout. I'm like no, no No, that's that that feels wrong That sounds wrong is like what are you talking about it? That's just it's not the right way to go It's my feeling I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion We've said in jest several times on this show and other times Doing the work. I think we're doing the work is literally doing and then the other thing is

2:12:37 When you say it to somebody, they'll be like oh...you are? And then so... We hit a certain limit and I was looking for a hierarchy of terms they use like ally and those kind of things. So if it is one out there, let's just co-op their hell they co-oped everything in saying anyway so we'll just co-opt from them that were doing the work And when you hit a certain level, we got to still decide the level that your ally! You can say, you know what? I am an ally of the Mo Facts & Adam Curry podcast you know, interracial podcast. So I am an ally and I'm doing the work that way. Are we in a racial or are we intersectional? That's the question

2:13:23 I don't know. What are we, Adam? Well don't tell anybody what we really are! That would ruin it. You had to put a label on it Adam. Okay... We're Macca and Jacka. We're Salt-N-Pepa. We're Ebony and Ivory. What the hell?! I don't know what we are. So no but I think doing the work because then is just hey Are you doing the work? I like it. And then ally, we come up with a hierarchy of ally and that kind of thing but once you hit a certain...I think once you contribute to the show your already an ally. You're an ally right there.

2:14:04 Because you're already done the work. Well, then maybe you become a... That was just my opinion! Okay we're gonna leave it up to our producers who will have to do the work and let us know what they think of levels I liked the idea of doing the work it's so ridiculous but it's also true It's true. You could not do the work better than by being a producer and just enjoying the conversation that is... No, they're not enjoying it! They're studying it. They're doing the works. That's it. They're supporting in the conversation because that's what they're doing right? Supporting the work. They give us motive to come here. Yeah, supporting so you can say I'm

2:14:48 I'm an ally supporting some of the most important one of the most important conversations of our generation. Oh, are you doing the work? That's it Yeah, what are you doing? What worker you're doing All right, we move on to Brian Martin with that with 193 90 interesting number Mo Have you X? You have expanded my mind and thinking on the topic of race and human relations through American history We are in a confusing time devoid of logic and sense I could articulate what I saw as the contradiction but could not elaborate on the forces behind it Your ability to weave historical context into modern events is fascinating. I'm using your episodes on white fragility and black ink as an educational basis for my son and his girlfriend excellent

2:15:33 As we close out the summer, they are poised to return to their university home where the topics of race and equality will no doubt be discussed. I see these two episodes as the beginning of what I hope will be an enlightening class and discussion. I also plan to investigate Johnson's Great Society is strategic move against the rise of communism in the black community hypothesis that came to mind while listening to The Black Ink episode. That's 43. I request, so first of all excellent idea get those kids doing the work. It will only benefit them this is no doubt and we thank Brian and he wants a WUSA for all those struggling with their fragility and the guilt of it Brian Martin from Parkland Florida Of course we got a WUSA for you man

2:16:23 Andrew... nice. Andrew Welleth, 12345 great number and Adam & Moe Sir Andrew of the wet drains from no agenda world sending my value to mo facts The most recent Black Ink episode was fantastic and finally pushed me over the ledge to show support for this show. Sorry Adam and JCD, I've been a douchebag! This project has been great to listen too with its relevance to the words current wash cycle." I would also love to hear Mo's opinion on Maj Touré... is that how you pronounce it? Maj Touré with black guns in his mouth? Yes. Okay, Maj Touré, I've seen Maj Touré tweeting around so give me the lowdowns

2:17:03 Anybody that's helping us arm ourselves and know our rights, I'm all for. Well there you go! GBG. Hashtag GBG. That actually... people were all over that they were doing give black guns hashtags and stuff people love that on Twitter that was fun to watch i like that proud of it actually Thank you, Andrew. Justin Coyle $110 58 cents Dear Mo and Adam thank you so much for the education your conversations with each other have brought both my wife and I have listened to every episode discuss your topics weekly with our neighbors friends and co-workers that's not a discussion You're doing the work! I would like to give my smoking hot wife Mel Z a special birthday shout out with a donation in her name of 110 58 towards Her Place

2:17:54 on the doing-the-work scale, which to be determined but yes and you need to keep track of your support so that we can once we've got that figured out and everyone can mail it in let us know. And he has a note here says happy birthday babe! You are my grounding force I love you No, that's so sweet. Oh, that's nice and then he also has a nice offer as a firearms instructor and police officer for over decade to help us with any training any firearm selection anything we want All we have to do is go to Nashville I'm saying sounds like a good family trip two families Go to Nashville We all shoot some guns up

2:18:33 Yeah more value Justin thank you so much very kind Brandon Shipley our first associate executive producer Value for Value who says love the show always very insightful. Thank You Brandon sir Scott king of the oops let me expand this a little bit Why can't I see what King Sir Scott Knight of the Knights surname. There we go $100 associate executive producer Mo and Adam, hope you both understand what a valuable service you are providing for our country in world right now? I'm currently doing the work by going back and listening to all of the episodes. Yep that's that is work

2:19:16 But just listening to the last five episodes has not only given me a profound new understanding of American Black heritage, history and culture but also an immunization against the insane agendas being pushed on all of us. Your discussions confirmed to all of us listeners that we're not going crazy it's just the crazy world we live in right now and I believe you both are helping to unite us all. I hope so! By the way, some very good shows I've watched recently have coincided with your podcast and i highly recommend them. There's Snowfall and Kill The Messenger both about CIAs influence on the drug war in the 80s and of course Malcolm X with Denzel Washington And here is my chip-in to hashtag GBG give blacks guns for a seat at the table! You are indeed on your way Sir Scott by doing this work

2:20:02 He says, keep up the good work and please give me a Mo Karma. Thank you Sir Scott Knight of the Night surname. You got that for sure thank you sir Scott. You've got... Mo Karma! Chef Elvis Rosenberg always supporting us with $100 no note from The Chef today? No, no. I was shocked! Always look forward to hearing from the note... getting a note from the chef. Alright Chef well let us know if we missed it somewhere and thank you very much now we have Steve Sims hey guys love your show thanks for helping me broaden my thinking i'm sending $90.75 which is 33% of my final week of unemployment payments

2:20:38 Thank you. The rumors are true Florida's about the stingiest state in the Union keep doing what you're doing D douche me if you will but no jinkos No karma, we're gonna give you a who saw that's our version of it. Thank you very much Steve Daisy of the less left coast 7777 in the morning gents and thank you for your courage Obviously a jumper from Noah gender where I'm a douche bag soon to be corrected Adam. It's alright man That's all good And I very much appreciate the content. I donated to MoFax first because well, I felt it would matter more also I have Fairly two minor critiques first and foremost I would love access to the clips which again are valuable and very much worth sharing so if there's any way to make that a thing I'd be No hey a few episodes back we started doing this and yeah, I have not

2:21:32 It's a little bit more work to go back and put all the clips in all the show notes. Okay, okay? But we have done it for the last like three episodes I think we've put the clips in? I think so. So moving forward with what was done Yeah, moving forward that is absolutely done and you can find all of that You can find all the episode show notes by going to archive dot Mo Fax calm So there's a yes. Okay second my smartphone is apparently somewhat retarded who are word And I cannot listen to the show via Google podcast as I do with no agenda and my phone is incapable of keeping track Of where I am in a show even when downloaded. I would love to know what app or medium You gentlemen would recommend for listening that provides even decent functionality other than My issues with dumbass technology, I'll readily admit operator error on both counts they feel more learned with every episode an

2:22:29 And I'm pleased as punch to help produce this product keep up the good work dudes and helping with keeping the tribe sane through all The craziness says Daisy of the left coast. Thank you, Daisy. I personally use overcast Now that's a that is a product that works on Apple You know what's kind of cool about podcast is you can just download it directly from our web page and you know, you can put that if you have an Android. And any player will work. You don't necessarily have to use a podcast player although it is more recommended the problem as you get these Google and

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2:24:00 Years ago I read Lincoln Unmasked, What You're Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe by Thomas J. DiLorenzo when i found out Lincoln was a tyrant who suspended hapeus corpus between 61 and 62 allowing the indefinite detention of citizens without trial and how he also wanted to literally abolish black people to Liberia which was started as a settlement by the American Colonization Society correct They believe black people would face better chances for freedom and prosperity in Africa than in the United States. Since reading this book, I have heard no one discuss this topic." Well hello! Although I have to say 45 Savage

2:24:40 He does say things like, well you know Abraham Lincoln supposedly he was great for the slave trade. He's hinting at that I noticed that too yeah! You're like oh I read up on Honest Abe and hmmm... Anyway, I've heard no one discuss this topic let alone show that Abe Lincoln was a tyrant and racist. Thank you for making me feel less nutty about all these crazy facts while I wade through the deep waters of uber woke Marxists who surround me at all times at my work and at Trader Joe's here in super left Seattle Also thanks for the house buying karma with my wife Rochelle And I bought a new house in North Seattle that had no competing offer yes mo karma works That's a good story

2:25:25 Very happy to hear that. Thank you, thank you for sending that in Jacob. Brian Rogers $55 Hey Mo and Adam please accept my double nickel donation as I'm trying to put together a hot streak of consecutive shows with the contribution excellent You guys are the best one-two punch since Karl Malone and John Stockton Wait wait... Karl Malone? The mailman The mailman. From downtown! See? I know some things, I know some things... I'd also like to make a request for a Westside gun cancel cannon for both Steven Jackson and Dwayne Wade for supporting anti-Semitism Unfortunately their shill of a Commissioner Adam Silver won't say anything about it keep up the awesome work Moe educate me So i think this is in defense of Nick Cannon

2:26:18 They came out and kinda threw him under the bus. Oh! And didn't back him, even though they're supposed to be super woke so I think that's what he was talking about No actually they supported Nick Cannon but then they had a backtrack I know Steven Jackson did because he was like...I don't want no parts of that So he originally came out and supported Nick Cannon but then he had to walk it back Well i'm sorry we'll have none of that here is a cancelled cannon P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P Thank you very much Brian. Robert Klein 5433 your shows are fascinating he says you and the podfather are killing it started with Jerry found no agenda then found Mo Fax yes a rare Rona mo ronimo donation Yes, they are out there in the wild You start with Rogan go to know agenda Mo facts and support them all thank you for the amazing work And have a wonderful weekend. Thank you Robert Kline Derek skull skoloski

2:27:19 $50 we thank you for that Carl Schneider $50 Raleigh Hawk $50 and has a note the show just keeps getting better keep it up baronet and black knight sir lineman of the net and our final associate executive producer for episode 44 Vincent Breckley with $50 and says, thank you for making me think outside the box very nice. And that's my guy I know him personally That's my guy Vincent Oh cool Yes All right Another soul saves brother mo another one saved John Taylor sends $40 to support the show and says this is for enlightenment And we thank you for that John then Carolyn Dierenberg or missus a deer in Berk. Maybe as I miss she might be Dutch and

2:28:01 Has a longer note here. Let's take a look. D'Amo and Adam, thank you for your podcast to help me understand American black... Oh yes this is good from outside the United States these things are important. Help me understand American black history and culture better if only I only started listening a couple of weeks ago after being hit in the mouth by Jacobin Dame of the Doomsday deniers after we met at a protest rally of The Yellow Vests, De Gele Hessjes that's in The Netherlands in December 2018 She advised me to start listening to the Noah Jenner show and I finally dove in. I'm 57 from the Netherlands, unfortunately now ill with Crohn's disease and on 100% disability but not complaining And i lived in Chicago in 82-83 with a liberal Jewish family in the beautiful University of Chicago neighborhood that is a nice area

2:28:47 The Jewish community welcomed me with open arms in their midst, and even though I was raised Dutch Reformed. I had a wonderful time there and luckily didn't encounter any anti-Semitism." The south side of the city however was a no go zone it was very impoverished with boarded up houses lots of crime and dangers to drive through when also for the people living there mostly blacks and Hispanics would you today address them as Ados and Latinos? Well i think There's gonna be ADOS, there's gonna be a lot more besides just Latinos or Latinx. There's gonna be all kinds of people there now. Right I mean... Jamaicans you name it it's all in there

2:29:29 With the election of the first black mayor, Democrat Harold Washington there was hope for a better future. Now 38 years later the black on black crime looks like a civil war and it's heartbreaking for me to read about my heart goes out to all the women who lose their men children and family to this absurd violence Mo can you please explain why it still so bad in these big cities? Did the city officials Democrats take all the aid money to enrich themselves and give jobs For their own family members instead of improving the neighborhood What episode did we have Bob Woodson on Moe? I mean this is kind of was three or four episodes ago Yeah, I'm gonna say maybe 30 out of 40 and well They did give their money to me nepotism to their family to help them but they don't want to fix this If you fix the system you put yourself out of a job. Oh

2:30:18 So I mean, that's the whole point. And I want to say something someone wrote me a letter about Chicago and they were telling me...I'm gonna take their word for it there was like all the shooting happens on like mainly two city blocks and that's it so it's kind of like Hacksher Dam on the wire like they Chicago kinda lets them you could kill on these streets as long as you don't mess up the rest of this city So, yeah they're allowed to quote the Baltimore Mayor. They give space to riot pretty much so they're giving free reign just to whoever they want on those poor city blocks and as long as they keep it out of you know the good taxpaying neighborhoods

2:31:01 That's a good explanation. It is episode 40 where we brought in Bob Woodson now. Yeah, okay. Carolyn has been listening to the show from the beginning she's at number four now so you got a couple more to go and she says she recognizes story from No Man About The House this is interesting me and my brother were raised by single mom with psychiatric disorders and we lived on welfare when my mother had a new friend he could not live with us or the benefits would stop social services did check our house more than once Bizarre to hear these same policies existed decades before on the entire other side of the world Maybe not by mistake and we're starting to see with us Well, we always know who's gonna go first Pay attention to your black friends. It was like okay

2:31:50 Carolyn, thank you so much. Kentil Patilia $24 and 7 cents. Hey Moe & Adam this is my RonaMo contribution I've become a regular listener of the show and have been trying to catch up with all the episodes enjoying the learning Enjoying it learning a lot from the show in the last episode Black King was the best i'v heard so far keep up the great work well Thank You very much Clinton twenty-three dollars and says it right there I'm doing the work Catherine Palandrani, $20. Thank you for that no note. Uri Weber 1974 thanks for helping my continued re-education I work at a member run cooperative grocery store and the struggle for racial equality came in the form of union organization organizing

2:32:32 There's not too many people who I can share this with there, but I'm picking a few curious co-workers to help enlighten Thanks again Yuri in Brooklyn. Yuri that is doing the work Thank you outstanding Sasha Wright $16 says hello Mo and Adam I was thinking about what to call them Oh facts producers tribe and I want to share an idea What if we call it the table of truth instead of the Knights and Danes? We call ourselves guardians Oh, that's also interesting Just an idea, but it seems fitting for a show such as this. I'm a new mom to a beautiful five-month old baby girl living in Western Oregon So we've been very isolated due to kovat 19 and all the craziness going on Portland No kidding y'all have given me a connection to the outside world And it really helped keep this mama's mind working Thank you for all you both do and God bless you both. I'd love to get some mo karma if possible yes, Sasha and thank you and

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2:35:08 As I said before, Barack Obama received the most friendly coverage and even downright ignoring stories that could have been damaging to him. And I have a couple of examples of this in the next couple sets of clips. Okay? Um...I guess the first one let's just go ahead and hop in Malia gets her internship Sadly, the Obamas have officially moved out of the White House. After eight years of incredible leadership, the most impactful first family we've seen in years is preparing to transition into life outside

2:35:47 and that includes the girls too. Overnight, news broke that Barack and Michelle's oldest daughter Malia has just secured a major internship with famed Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein after the family finishes vacationing in Palm Springs And before Malia heads off to her freshman year at Harvard she will spend some time right here in New York City learning all about what independent film has to offer Harvey Weinstein and his brother Bob who raised money for the Obama campaign, have one of the most successful independent film companies in the world. Their credits include Shakespeare In Love, The King's Speech and most recently Jay-Z's new series Time The Khalif Bowder Story So it is safe to say that Malia will be in good hands! Though we are saddened by their inevitable exit from the White House It would be awesome to cheer on the Obamas when they have

2:36:36 the stress and double the freedom to accomplish anything they can dream. I don't think we need to even say anything about that, I think that story speaks for itself. Had you heard of this before? I mean... I recall one story quite a while back that she was going to work there or something but when Me Too happened nooo! That was not brought up Isn't there 16 individual, what do you call it? Independent intelligence agencies at the behest of the president. If I'm the president and I'm sending my daughter to work somewhere trust me- You might check it out first What is this guy Harvey all about? And then as is known was Oprah's secret in Hollywood that

2:37:30 He was handsy at best or at worst, however you want to put it there. Yeah this is not the guy... And he let your daughter go off and work? This is not the guy! No Wow! Well she's gonna be in good hands Well I always stick to the rumor that both of Obama kids are not Barack's kids One is Stevie Wonder's kid and one is Scottie Pippen's kid That's what I've always said Well, if you see the pictures of the two... If you see the pictures of the two people that are apparently supposed to be their biological parents. Yeah No It's very damning. But like I said, i'm not gonna dabble in those kind of conspiracies because I'm gonna keep my powder dry for other things. Um but

2:38:23 Your daughter going to work for Harvey Weinstein and this has to be 2016. There was already rumblings about Harvey in 16, right? I mean... Yes! Yeah yeah! Oh man can you believe that?! What!? They let you know they're disgusted by the behavior of Harvey Weinstein. Any man who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be condemned and held accountable regardless of wealth or status. We should celebrate the courage of women who have come forward to tell these painful stories, and we all need to build a culture including by

2:39:11 empowering our girls and teaching our boys decency and respect so we can make such behavior less prevalent in the future." Their statement comes after critics accused the first couple of staying quiet about the Weinstein allegations was dropped last week in a report in The New York Times. And then, of course yesterday, The New Yorker dropped an even more explosive piece as well. Weinstein has been a major Democratic donor in 2012, he contributed $71,000 to Obama's campaign their oldest daughter Malia recently interned at the Weinstein company. Weinstein was also a prominent supporter of Hillary Clinton presidential campaign she also finally released a statement saying she was shocked and appalled by the revelations said that behavior cannot be tolerated

2:39:51 Now, here is how a normal father would respond somewhere between this report 2016 and today 2020. At some point maybe by myself maybe with my wife I'd say I was so shocked when i learned this and I could not believe that my daughter had been in possible danger you would have to say something about this but no. Yeah and they acted like they didn't know, but then Michelle said we need to believe all women in their stories so why didn't they listen to the former White House photographer? You saw a lot of people come and go at The White House as well what did you think for instance when Harvey Weinstein visited

2:40:39 That was a very, very tough moment. My entire body was screaming I'm not sure if Australian viewers are aware but shortly after the New York Times article last year I came forward and told my story of Harvey Weinstein and my knowledge of him in the film business And when he came to The White House with Michelle Obama for a Broadway tribute event, my body was screaming inside and I wanted to shake Michelle and go no no don't do this. So what was your experience? I've got a no! It's not me, I said no. Anna did you ever talk about how your skin crawled when he saw Harvey Weinstein walking with Michelle Obama were you ever able to warn them about the sort of company they were keeping

2:41:26 Actually, that came up recently with one of her aides. I said to them just recently after the Michelle Obama, they contacted me and said you know I tried to warn Michelle and they said well when? When and how did you do that? And I said I spoke to her first lady press office both in the East Wing and I spoke to President Barack Obama's office on the West Wing And I don't know why those messages didn't get to them directly, but I was very surprised and disheartened that Harvey Weinstein was there. I thought it was hypocritical of the first lady at the time. I guess she didn't know what everyone else knew. And I was very concerned when, of course, as it's such Malia started interning at Miramax at The Weinstein Company.

2:42:18 I've not heard this of this woman. This is great, and I've done a lot of work on researching these people that's fantastic well Of course this all leads into some of my favorite topics And then the two things that? Distract me as just you can't ignore these two facts one Barack Obama being the Leader of the free world. Yeah, have all this access to all these intelligence agencies You can't have somebody look into Harvey and then your wife is BFFs with Oprah who has the intelligence, uh, the entertainment's intelligence agencies. I mean TMZ and I'm sure she has moles everywhere or you could just pick up the phone to say hey oh what's up it's Michelle.

2:43:16 Yeah, Harvey. What's up with him? How is he?" Yeah I'm checking on behalf of my daughter who i love so much and I'm gonna send her off to intern... what do you think O? And why didn't O say hey Michelle I don't really want to say nothing, but you might want to let her intern over at the Ford Foundation. I'm just saying USAID anything but Harvey that conversation never had this is yeah, that's all talk about in the media and then you have these women coming forward today warned her and yeah it was well known news But nobody reports on there now this next topic

2:44:00 I wrestled with it. It was in and then it was out, and then it was in and then it was out. Before you lead into the topic...I'm glad you left it in because I worked with this person on her own show in New York when she was on Channel 5 but it was syndicated nationally. I really had an affection for her. We got along professionally extremely well She had two modes. Really three with me she turned on an extra kind of like charm which I was very endearing and I played right into that of course she's older than I was but if she was saying something truthful to you like in between a commercial break it she meant it so she was very very straight list I'm talking about Joan Rivers take it from there

2:44:57 No, you take it from here. Okay so... No no I'll get out. No it's good. This is a hard one like okay this was all talking about that hater cloud looming over you That's okay because I've done this many times so people can hate me for this if they want It's not a problem Right So Joan Rivers was asked And she was very in tune with, if there is such a thing the gay community. She's been around show business of theater television movies it's very very very long history very connected woman and also very intuitive because she went through a lot of tragedy and she could feel people understand where they were coming from as you turn everything into a joke and that's how she dealt with her life I think

2:45:47 But there was a rumor and I can't honestly remember where it started. We can say it, we just had to play it. I'm not shying away from it Well, there was... I can't believe she said it and then I can't believe it was not covered. That's what I'm saying so.. Yeah well I think it was wasn't for entertainment tonight or who aired this? It was AT or TMZ. I think TMZ. TMZ might have aired it. And I think Howard Stern played a lot which is probably where I heard at first but these rumors have been around for quite awhile and when Joan Rivers said this to me

2:46:29 It meant something more than to the average person because I knew that this was Joan in not joking mode. Miss Rivers, how are you? You made a ton of news officiating the wedding in New York yesterday. Is this like a new cottage career move for you? I am so excited and i should do very well because I don't charge And do you think that the country will see...the United States will see the first gay president or the first woman president We already have it with Obama So let's just calm down Got it! You know Michelle is a tramp I'm sorry she's what? A tramp Transgender, we all know. Oh my gosh! It's okay Now she just officiated I think the state or the city's first same-sex marriage Yeah, I got a clip on that too just to support that she is not some homophobe or trying to tear down No no no not at all What i'm saying is because that's where it should be painted when you say something against you're saying The Great Barry but

2:47:32 What struck me is the silence around this story. It was... We saw the email where people were being rude towards Michelle Obama, and it was like some mayor in some hick town sends an email criticizing Michelle Obama and it made national news. Right! How dare you? Then you have Joan Rivers come out and she says it so nonchalantly That and one thing we have to take into account was that cover of the news week, they had first gay president Barack Obama with the rainbow halo. When I heard this,

2:48:20 That's not what they meant. Which, like you said the rumor and rumors and the conspiracies and those kind of things went around And it's not something that I can't substantiate even though there are some smoking guns around in the activities of men dying in Chicago mysteriously. We know about President Hitler... And the Larry Sinclair business and all of that. Oh yeah! Like I said, I didn't want to dabble on that. I wanted come at the angle This is how the media protects one of their assets and if you want to use the Operation Mockingbird as a framework, they're protecting one of their real assets not like quote-unquote assets. But then Joan she just said oh yeah and then she says okay we have them brought and I'm like okay? And this she doubles down like Oh

2:49:11 Oh, Michelle? Yeah. She's a tranny! But it's okay don't worry about it I mean it's all right she didn't say like mean or harshly and then the interaction opens up with the reporter referencing the same sex marriage that she had just done previously which I have a clip on 7pm, Jones at Barnes and Noble. She gets a standing O and a surprise request! The comedian who's an ordained minister was asked if she would marry these two fans I pronounce you and it is wonderful that your my second marriage husband and husband Joan Rivers of force of nature who was one-of-a kind thanks for the memories Jone Yeah yeah didn't end very well with this comment

2:49:59 And it seems like Joan knew it may have been coming from her last show that she did. Our top story though is the passing of Joan Rivers, can't her voice really be gone? Funeral services for her will be this Sunday in New York. Remembrances are pouring in from all over the world for this comedy legend. Her family says the 81 year old died peacefully Thursday in a New York hospital Summing up a legendary career in comedy, Rivers' daughter and co-star Melissa Rivers said this in a statement. My mother's greatest joy in life was to make people laugh although that is difficult to do right now I know her final wish would be that we return to laughing soon

2:50:43 Well, as you know virtually no subject was off limits for Rivers including her own mortality. Take a listen to this clip now from her final stand-up comedy performance recorded just one day before she ended up in the hospital What did she say at the end? I couldn't hear it. She said she's talking about her dying. She like you were there, you know? I mean it would be big news and But this is one day before she goes in for surgery yeah very simple surgery

2:51:36 Very simple surgery and routine. Yeah, routine and then they're just they honestly says that she didn't have to die There are startling new details emerging from the federal investigation into the death of Joan Rivers The findings have angered her daughter Melissa Yeah, Chris Raggy has the latest from outside the clinic where a new report says terrible mistakes were made. It's this simple Joan Rivers did not have to die There is always the risk Whenever you go under you've got to say maybe this won't work or maybe I won't even come out of it And it is a major life choice

2:52:15 This just released 22 page report includes some disturbing claims about what was supposed to be Just a routine throat procedure for the comic legend back in August among the mistakes investigators Report the clinic failed to get Jones informed consent for each procedure performed and failed to identify deteriorating vital signs, and this is the part that is just astounding The report says that while Joan was sedated a staff member quote took pictures of the surgeon and the patient with his cell phone. Oh man, oh I remember all this it was very disturbing. It's like proof of a hit! Pay up bitch send me my bitcoin yeah that's bad man that was shocking to me when she died it's just like what and then because I didn't hear about the Michelle thing until after Me either! Like I said all this is

2:53:13 What like she died mysteriously and all of a sudden you know what shocked me was that the news didn't freak out on her and counsel her She should have definitely been canceled to say the first black First lady is as a transgender. I mean, he had the gay LGBT community should have been outraged The black community should have been outraged The the feminine should have been outraged You know the machine didn't the machine suppressed it? The machine didn't let that happen Which when they don't talk about something that can generate a lot of revenue, I mean it's bigger. It's much big money much bigger We're just looking so yeah it was entertainment tonight. I think they might have had They might have shown oh, I'm just looking at the news if I can see any historical new stuff That's really it only aired there. I think and that was it

2:54:06 I know TMZ covered it and they kind of pooh-poohed it away. Like, oh that's just Joan being Joan. You know Crazy Joan? That's why I heard on the TMZ clip which you can't find anymore! That's the other thing like these clips are disappeared... To find this clip was hard. Like had to go inside a bigger video that had the clip embedded and I had to snip it there but no the clips are gone They're gone. They've been scrubbed Really And don't ever get it twisted that Obama is gangster. Supergangster and the reason why I say that is 41. She made us think?

2:54:59 Yes. You know, handwritten note from Obama after he just called you gay and your wife tranny? Oh yeah! She made us laugh she made us think a little too much Do you remember the time that President Obama was speaking at I think there might have been a war memorial Any any any and he is referring to you know Mike, and I we yeah Michael and I yes He did it on several occasions like I said. I don't want her I don't have proof either way On what she is or isn't But that the fact that wasn't covered in the news And then he follows up with a handwritten note to Melissa Rivers yeah She made us laugh she made his thing

2:55:48 Yeah, that's like a stone cold gangster move. Did it come wrapped in like a dead fish or something? Like I iced her and then sent the kid a note. That is really hard! I love your thinking Moe! Nah it was just... but.. And I want to say this before we play this last clip This is the hill Obama chose to die on metaphorically or figuratively and that's the transgender The bathrooms right this in I want to say enraged but just that was the tipping point for black people It's like come on, bro. Like I mean you did DACA You did gay marriage before us? I mean we gotta say before us you do all these other things and then your last year too

2:56:40 Transgender bathrooms, that's the one you wanted. That's the one you want to not reparations not So the freeing people so the logical conclusion is this is a decision made by a man who has a different cultural history than was portrayed yes, but and different values you parade around as black when you play right out of his black dad had certain uh, raises expectations that come with it. Yeah, sure. And that's where you heard the upset and the upset Michael Eric Dyson like That's kind of what he was saying like bro Come on Say something so but there may be great well no I'll ask you after you get to next clip Okay There maybe some reasonings behind why he is so sympathetic to this demographic

2:57:33 And that's Obama's ex-nanny. 66-year old Evie walks the streets of her Indonesian slum. She lives in a tiny room, subsisting on money she earns from washing clothes. Evie's meager existence belies a startling truth. She was once nanny to President Barack Obama. Evie says she has always been proud that the person she cared for drove to school and cooked for ended up being number one in the world The future president was just eight years old at the time In the late 1960s, his mother Ann Dunham married her second husband and moved to Indonesia. Dunham was impressed by Evie's cooking ability and offered her a job. For two years Evie lived with Obama and his family in this Jakarta home but she thinks the young Obama didn't know one fundamental truth about her

2:58:23 Born a man, Evie identifies as a woman. Evie says Ann Dunham might have known she was transgendered but she never dressed as a woman in front of young Barry. Evie has struggled through life saying she's never found suitable work since Obama and his family left the country in the early 1970s but she says Obama's election gave her a reason to feel proud for the first time in a long time Matt Friedman Associated Press Wow so he Thank you for that too. I didn't know that story either and damn you damn you Mo now listen Maurice What do what do you think the strategy was For whoever is can was controlling Obama every president is controlled one way or the other this current one is probably more controlled by military than anything and

2:59:16 What do you think the strategy was? Why choose those particular issues to go out with and not, I mean sorry to put it just toss a bone. I mean why not a single thing what do you think the idea was there well if you look at from them about from a Marxist mindset it's all about the conflict mm-hmm so keep the conflict going and just add some LGBTQQIAPK to it because I want to say this correctly, the LGBT community was sitting back on their laurels celebrating the marriage thing. So it's like now we need to ratchet it up again another level because... You didn't win nothing! No achievement here? Until our sisters and brothers have their own bathroom there is no victory. Oh man

3:00:10 Well, that of course is not the end of the Barack Hussein Obama story. The Barry Sotero story this story will continue and I look forward to unpacking whatever comes our way with you Moe because i think this a lot well...I'm not gonna say it cuz its your tagline to say yes Pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And that is our motto ladies and gentlemen, Mo thank you so much had a good time man as always As always, Adam and I'll see you next week. Remember it's mofaxx.com if you want to support us directly You producers are encouraged do that m-o-e f-u-n d-m e dot com We'll see you next week right here on Mo Facts with Adam Curry. I chose this particular song Because the words have a very special message I've heard a lot of songs and I've sang a lot of songs

3:01:05 But none of them really, really came right out and called a spade a spade. This song tells it just like it is The message is simply that It's just about an impossible task to figure out which of your friends' smile is a mask Digging... so I know you're singing the truth, but don't tell the truth. Smile at my faces. Smile at their faces until I'm through. Oh, if I got proof, smile at me too.

3:02:06 Brothers and sisters, your enemy won't do you no harm. Cause you know where this wind is coming from Oh, don't let the handshaking or smiles fool ya Take it, take it, take my advice I'm only trying to school you that Smiling faces, smiling faces Sometimes they don't tell the truth, smiling faces

3:02:51 Thanks Obama.