90: Micro Mockingbird

Mo Facts with Adam Curry for February 20th, 2023. Episode number 90. Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here in Northern Virginia please say hello to my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen Mr. Mo Facts How are ya doing Adam? I am good Mo how about yourself? I'm doing well Ah man it's been an interesting couple weeks I have missed our little chats, to be honest. I have as well! Yeah and so today...I think what's happened is the good Lord has told me that I gotta cuss less and maybe just listen more So he gave me a nice oral surgery yesterday If i start slissing or talk slowly then everyone knows what's going on

Okay, cuz it only hurts when I laugh so don't you do this might not be the show Already apologize in advance. All right. I'm very excited Let's spin the wheel of topics here we have okay Alright, there we go round and round the wheel of topics goes where it stops nobody knows but of course Moe knows because he put it all together. The topic for MOFAX with Adam Curry episode number 90 is... Big Tech isn't bad with big con. Ah Crowder interesting okay well I know a little bit about this I followed that story somewhat? I'm glad you did uh I thought was one the most fascinating stories

At the time and it was the end cap or the what do you call the cap on the top of something? The Capstone of a Previous show I had no teased and you forced my hand. It was only yay versus day show Yeah, we got into the Candace Owens being you know trying to pony up again beside yay yes, and you force my hand in and And spectacular podcast fashion. Wait, what did I do? I don't remember what did I do? I was just handing around the edges with her and Kanye and What she might be up to yeah, and you were like You were kept going like you care about pulling the strings. Come on. Let it go come on mo Right cuz I saw this coming. I saw bitcon

Being big conservative media. Mm-hmm be looking for opportunities to Increase the market share and that's what her move I thought was because she was going totally off code against a daily wire for yay, and Yeah didn't last very long though No, cuz he went for he went full yay. She couldn't go there Because no of course not because she works for daily wire You can't go full yay when it comes down to the Zionist globalists Well the thing was she was willing to go with yay where he was going But where he took it on the Alex Jones show Yeah that gets you ostracized from your social circles and that's really one of their pressures right? I mean everybody

Will make moves for money, but when you become ostracized and uh shun from your social circles Or that's a threat then that you know That's another level of canceling which I think she didn't want to deal with and then the parlor deal dried up mysteriously We kind of knew that was gonna happen like ah that seems unlikely. That would not we didn't think that would complete so just as That's where we're going with the show. We're gonna look into that whole dynamic of what's going on? We're gonna go circle back to yay because it has something to do with what he was like the contract thing, right? It's like Because you you're aware somewhat of what was going on to Steven Crowder and

and Daily Wire situation. And we're going to get into, you know maybe some Operation Paperclip so... I mean not paperclip but Mockingbird excuse me. Mockingbird just as good! So I guess what we need to do now is just get the background for people that were not in the know and start with clip number two. There's some drama unfolding in the world of conservative media, conservative media commentator Stephen Crowder, sort of YouTube personality has accused Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens daily wire being in bed with big... so here's what happened

Steven Crowder is a YouTube conservative who was formerly affiliated with The Blaze. He's on his own now and apparently the Daily Wire reached out to him with an offer to acquire him, and host his show going forward. Crowder hated the terms of that agreement he said they were gonna penalize him for if you ever got demonetized on YouTube or other platforms they're gonna start subtracting money from the contract That's a little bit of an abbreviation. The reason I was going to say is because Crowder, and I did follow this and it was highly interesting and I have a lot of thoughts about Daily Wire but Crowder he said he had problems with the deal that was offered to him He didn't say who it was It was the Daily Wire

Boring boring. Yes, Jeremy Jeremy boring He's the one that came out and said oh hold on a second This was our contract let me tell you what's really going on and then the tit-for-tat went back in for so it wasn't initially Crowder who? Who mentioned daily wire if I'm if I recall correctly That is correct that it that is correct And just as a side note you know how they say like your last name was what your forefathers are did you know like So boring that fits him I tried to use him as a clip, but it was not oh Man cuz he went over the contract and we're saying line by line But it was a snoozer so I just couldn't do it. He's appropriately named So I mean yes You're right Steven on Crowder didn't come out and say it was like a blonde item who he was talking about

But I guess daily wire Kind of wanted to you know Jump out in front of it, and they you know they out themselves well. I mean, I don't know if it's enough If this is too much goggles but the reason boring did that was all positioning about their company because they have a very set Direction which does not even doesn't really even involve Shapiro anymore? I mean this guy wants to do wants to do movies And you know which is what he's always been You know right and this is why I wanted to do this show with you because This is the counter narrative to value for value

So I knew you were all over and it just exposes the red tape that comes along with these contracts. So, I was excited to do this show and like I said it was a great capstone with this happening It's amazing how these things go that you think you have the show done well I think I had the show done Gift falls from the sky What's that? It illustrates exactly what is Illustrates exactly what I was talking about. So, I guess we can go ahead and get into a clip number three Here Steven Crowder talking about it. They don't get deals that make me wait for a little bit Come over and make us our brother brand Make me wait for a little bit

So, Stephen Crowder got on the phone with Jeremy Boring who is Daily Wire co-creator of it with Ben Shapiro and surreptitiously recorded him which is pretty wild because they were very good friends previously. Recorded him saying that line about what you would be if you were a young coming up conservative starting out and you have to be a wage slave for little bit Missing in all of this was that the contract they offered Stephen Crowder, $50 million over I believe three years. Wow more context here as well Please add all the context you need and this is

This is going to be a great opportunity of what you heard, what I heard and what they're reporting. So please fill in the gaps where you see necessary." Okay, I'll kind of go to the conclusion because what is going on here is Crowder already has a staff of 20 he has a real business I'm not sure exactly what happened with the Blaze, but I know that he was looking to possibly do a value for value play. I heard directly from some of his staff members. But he already does a version of that because he has reported 300,000 members of the Mug Club which means there's even if it's 100,000 people who are paying him monthly so he's got a very nice income already

without the necessity for advertising and the contract that was offered actually really made him a wage slave. That's in my opinion, doesn't matter how much the wage is you're a wage slave if there's...if you're set to schedule, you know? If there are certain things you have to do, certain targets have to hit which is why I prefer doing full value for value now I don't make the money Crowder does but at the same time I'm my own man, I can do whatever i want. Now the thing that I find baffling is that Crowder is making a big deal of this type of contract

And at the same time he was kind of offering people to join him or become a part of perhaps his network that He may want to build and this is and I may be wrong about that But that's the way you know, the way I heard it and what he didn't like about You know the that what am I gonna leave everybody who comes after me? And I just wanted to say very clearly, you can't monetize the network. So I don't know what Crowder is thinking of but he should just do whatever he wants to do on his own and he doesn't really need... Just looking at the money, the way it breaks down, I don't think he really needs the 50 million dollars over three years or four years or wherever it was. I think he's doing just fine

I think there's more behind it from him personally as well. It's not coming out right yet Or maybe I've you know lost track of it and hopefully well, I know one thing your analysis is gonna be Gonna be fantastic So I'm waiting for what you have to say so the takeaways are had from this is just a high level like The media narrative that we're discussing one is Think he saw a chance to jump into the game and become ablaze. Yeah to become a media Daily mail, excuse me Danny wire means give you daily wire Mm-hmm agreed agreed so it was let me record him saying yeah You're gonna be away slave which let's stop right there at the recording because even his crowd was split on this I

It's that we don't secretly record people. That was kind of bad business, you know? Because with the conservative... Thought process we do things upstanding and yeah, we don't do underhanded things like that But at the same time they're big fans of project Veritas. Yeah Literally you know get a guy in a gay date and try to get Which is also pretty low when it comes to you know honey potting somebody Right was which the secret recording split has heard I wouldn't say 50-50. I would say maybe 80 20% was

Was kind of like that's kind of off, you know Off script to be recording people but he saw his opportunity say look They're trying to make you wage slaves. Yeah And I won't do that come join us and i'll give you a fair deal You know it kind of um That doesn't sit well with me It's like do your own show? Do you don't have to be in network? That's just my personal experience really not even an opinion Experience that is very hard to make it work Well, this is how rap works and this is why I found it fascinating when you talk about yay And what he was going through? This is how it works big labels sign up-and-coming artists say we put the machine behind you But we can dictate your career and then we get what's called a 360 Which is you know saying we make money off of all your money. And that's one of the things you didn't bring up was oh

Think that Steven Crowder wouldn't own his any of documentaries that he made He would get paid for him, but he went on the you know rights to it Even the shows that he would make on their behalf even the show so basically if you want to use an analog all The publishing would be with daily wire correct which that's It is a wonderful Just a lining of what's happening in hip-hop. What was happening with yay, and now we're seeing these kind of contracts good for our Coming into the content creation And it made if I can just interrupt for one second when we started pod show 2006 and we raised a lot of money from venture capital do it We did exactly the same thing In fact we were not we were not shy about who said this is very much like a record bet like a band

We're now going to sign them to their own label. We set them all up with an LLC, we gave them a guaranteed amount of money not that...not that we thought they would go on and create sub-labels but they could be their own entrepreneur but absolutely! We own certain rights uh..and there's really no other way to do it unless you go full on value for value That is only way you can do it And I agree. And the sub-sub narrative of all this, and it's just minute but these are saying people like oh slavery! Slavery this slavery that and then they're kicking and screaming about becoming wage slaves clutch my pearls yes

So I thought that to be that's the first thing. I took away from like are they really talking about slavery? Everything that comes out or both for their organization is like Oh slave deniers even to the point where I think my master a and One of the guys from The Daily Wire had got into it over then continuing narrative for slavery, but we're not gonna I just wanted to bring that up, but now we got they get to know you fuller. I gotta say this before you even play the clip I know some people may eye roll and Why is he always talking about white supremacy? It's because it's effective If you say that term and it makes people kind of like That's me. We're getting somewhere where they say when you receiving flack

You're over the target. That's right So I want to say that so this Nealey Foyt got set up a little bit This is him explaining how white supremacy takes both sides of the argument I want to make this very very clear, this morning in 2017 August The white supremacists are very skilled at the art, science code of deception. Alright? And they are the best strategist in the world for dominating and mistreating people

And part of that strategy, a key part is to do what? What did I say earlier on this program if some of you were with this program at the beginning. Today! I said it over and over again and i'm going end up this program saying it. The white supremacist take all sides of every argument when it comes to people of color so that they have positioned themselves to have in the end the same strength or greater strength than they had before the arguments started. All right, and and of course I always love how he says supremacist not supremacists but supremacists which i think is subtle but makes a difference Yes it does

And the people of color I'm talking about right now is the orange people. I was gonna roast... Color, people! I've roasted Sojit before and this is a teaser of an up-and-coming show Carvel did you hear what he said? Uh when.. About being white trash No no I guess I missed that Oh yeah but when uh he was talking about MTG Yeah, Marjorie Taylor Greene. And he flat out called her white trash! This is where we're at and I'm telling you they're starting to push the orange people into the People of Color category. Orange!!! And in doing that this is what... You need to co-op the media of the orange people. Did you see where I am going with this? Well first of all yes because

90, 89 episodes ago it was the first time you said to me Adam they're just coming for us first And here we are Here with a full-throated. He said he's uh Well, I'm not just gonna tease that cuz there's gonna be upcoming show so get ready for it But that just proved my had to lay that out there to say The reason why they have the co-op and then they in this is big tech and you know Whoever big tech works for you're saying you could fill in the blanks with that um

They can't let conservative or alt-media be free. We have to go in, we have to coopt it, we have to get all the rising stars on the contract that way we can say if you step foul of whatever big tech says, you won't get paid or you won't get paid as much as you possibly can which is just this is just nothing but infiltration Yeah yeah yes I would concur So I guess we can wrap up with the second part of the nearly four clips just so everybody knows they take all sides not both sides even if there's a third fourth side. They say all sides of the argument. I'm going to emphasize that again, they are very scientific at taking all sides see they position their people on all sides but not just

two sides, three sides. If there's an argument of any kind religious argument political arguments educational arguments they position themselves on all sides every facet of every argument don't forget that like the godfather trying to tell Michael I mean you know whoever comes to you and set up this meeting as a traitor don't forget that And we got to see who's the traitor in this situation. Okay, we got one hand and not a contract with stipulations of big tech but then we also have somebody that secret recording some which is very off code there was you know like a code or conduct

amongst these people. And meanwhile... Which is a farce, I mean i'm saying but oh yeah but we don't even know what happened with the blaze we don't really know why Crowder left do we? Well the Blaze, The Blaze how can I say this no let me give it a try just look just looking at JLOC 100 uh-huh It's a control mechanism That yeah that it is but you got to remember that The Blaze and Glenn Beck were anti-Never Trumpers to begin with. And I think maybe that Crowder wasn't down with that, he saw that wasn't a winning strategy and that might be the reason why he broke away from it. Let me just be honest this whole conservative beef is nothing new. I've been around these circles for a long time. I remember when Glenn Beck and Alex Jones were going at it heavy

Now they patched up because they got to realize you know who Kind of like the Avengers movie with Thanos is coming So, you know the good guys and the bad guys whoever you want say it good or bad It had to team up together and fight this far bigger threat. So this is nothing new No I mean III when I did the Glenn Beck show when he interviewed me, you know, and then like Three or four days later. He said hey, you know I want to I want you to do every Friday on the radio show You know there was clearly like a hey once you come and join like a soft hand join us type thing And I didn't want that I felt immediately like mmm

And and that's that's quite the operation man. They got so much going on there It since you brought up Whitlock see this is what I'm talking about these subtle things you do and it's like Cuz if you did it with the previous show, yeah, it's like I gotta hop over here say he got me He got me with Whitlock this week The guy over a value tame it invited Whitlock There was some drama with that Is that valiant uh david bett is that that guy yes, that's him. I missed the drama. I didn't see the drama What happened? Yeah he invited whitlock and then he tried to blindside whitlock with bringing on Uh, what's our guy from the bullet? Um

Which? Rollin Martin rolling Martin Wow He didn't tell him it was gonna be a panel, but things like oh why you're here I got a panel You know saying in Whitlock thought he was gonna be on like a one-on-one kind of interview and it became this whole thing But Whitlock was like, you know, I could say what I want to say. He was just trying to pick two black people together and by the end of the week he had Reassure how conservative he was cuz in that rant. He was I'm not conservative I'm not this innocent nobody can own me and then by the end of the week He had to reassure how conservative he was so yeah, this is you see yeah it is

You got to be careful when you sign these contracts because he if For me, this is take him out of it for me. If I were to sign one these contracts I understand they would like moat you can never talk about reparations again and a positive light Right now as a conservative there are certain things you just can't say And that's one of them. White supremacy? Gotta go! You gotta fight, you a globalist, you WF- Whatever you want, whatever you want. But not that yeah Yes So I'm just telling you so...yeah So good point you're right and it's amazing. They try to get you on a contract Hey, Curry, we want to get you in the car Talking about I felt it right away and just like no No, I'd be happy to come don't pay me You know if you want me to come on I'll be happy to talk once great It's great for my show great for everything I do so he now gets some exposure And yeah, any guys called me a couple times but then again it was like oh

I can't remember what it was, it was like some crazy conspiracy theory and he's like yeah call Curry. And I'm like no, no I am not going to do that. I'm just here for the nut job stuff But I appreciate it. Well, yeah, that's who I am but but that's not my brand So I guess it is my brand really what am I saying? What better brand is it though we talk about lizard people we could talk about anything we want to It was like nobody can shut us up. Who are those lizard people All right Thanks to thanks to the people of value for value. Thank you and that's what That's the

like the moral of this story, if we had to say it before the story is over. The producers allow us to say all the things that we say and not be filtered or monitored or you know nudged they say I don't know if you want to put it that way. Very powerful for us very empowering Very very much so. So now we got to go back to the heel and this is the summary Let's go and get two number four fifty million dollars over I believe three years, which is a whole lot of money Here's Candace Owen responding to the debacle on Tim pools podcast lol To anyone who thinks that Steven Crowder is not doing this to make money like I mean dad just have to outwardly laugh He's he's the person in a disguise. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing right? He see he's like I'm not I

I'm here because I care about all of you. That's why, that's why I am recording my friend and doing this crappy thing where I literally could have just said no i don't like those terms and then said to everybody I'm starting my own outfit fair You walk away all the time. You happen to go...I have walked away..you know I had an offer from The Blaze it didn't work for me you know what I mean? I need a piece piece apart the contract. I love those guys! I think Tyler is amazing, this is what I'm saying people need to stop thinking that he's some knight in shining armor he's not a knight in shining armor and if you can't see that watch this video because I think his acting is never more apparent even the titles...I didn't want to do this oh really then why did you record him? You know I felt very bad for Candace Owens when when I saw this first of all

I don't understand the appeal of Tim Pool. That's not my... They've invited me, and like no it's okay man, I'm cool It's always boring to me it feels a lot very inside The stuff that they do back and forth feels like I am listening to Twitter most of the time And for Candace Owen who was tripping over her words To me it was oh man they sent you to do this really? That is how it felt to me Where's my bail? Thank you, thank you. You came to the show without your bell is very I'm sorry But that's exactly what happened and let me explain to you how I took it The way she jumped out of the window for yay

and wouldn't back down. I love that phrase, right? Right! The way she went back down and she's like i'm riding with Ye he's my friend and i'm not gonna choose between you know uh my job and my friend and when he left her high and dry or she couldn't go where he was trying to take it now it's like Candace you know what you gotta do... You gotta go out here and you gotta cape like nobody's business And that's what this was because she was on her channel. She was on Tim pools Channel calling him a beat TCH and which I felt was very unbecoming you know say, I don't like when women do that to men because those are fighting words and Like what are you doing? You know sound like you shouldn't use words if you don't want actual fight I Don't I don't like where people do that. No, I think she was looking for a fight Oh

Oh, yeah. She was definitely looking for a response so they could say oh look at my attacking the black woman. You know, it's like they want everybody goes agree I found this to be one of the most fascinating situations because everything they claim they stand for went out the window and that's Thank you for bringing for doing this because i really...you know me? I'm a white guy so I didn't I didn't like that didn't register that way to me immediately but I guess deeper is like oh okay It was very..because I always look at from the money angle And like, you know, here's what I think. Candace you got easy talking You know your husband's got he's got a good job He's got cash, you know, she's involved in higher levels of finance and technology So you gotta you got easy easy talking? You know It was like if she loses her job is not the end of the world necessarily for their family and you know She's got one or two kids now It is for her though

Right, but she but her scruples are very low in my book already because when she went all-in on the freedom phone Which you know without any research without I mean? I immediately saw through this is a scam this guy didn't get anything special and You know and she was adverted. She got paid to advertise it And she's real cagey about that or like you know I don't just take money from any outfit Yes, you do yes. You do you do just like her idol Oprah Oh, wow. Boo! I keep telling you she wants to be the conservative Oprah that's the whole thing and that's She tried to get off of the conservative Hamster wheel with yay because she wanted to go into wider culture And but see the thing is he has stink on her it would never wash away The way she handled a whole black lives matter riots Saying they were chipping out

And how she handled the George Floyd thing not being Sensitive and I don't use that as all she should have been caped for George Floyd But there's a time and a place in how you carry things if you if you want to have a wider audience And she kind of slammed the door on that the way. She handled it and even before the Super Bowl She was like, I don't see anything wrong with Rihanna's Performance trying to get that and she did the same thing with the Super Bowl performance Yes She's Red Queen rising, please. Please that was the most satanic Illuminati thing I've seen in a while Is that the spiral dancing at all? Yes, she threw the triangle at the end which they tried to take off the TV But we all saw it We saw this you through the illuminati triangle Correct and but even for Candace Oh, I didn't see anything wrong with it It was a great show I disagree with Trump You know that kind of thing as she

What I'm my whole point is she's trying to cut her way into mainstream culture That's that's her where she's trying. I think her and boring have the same Mission and initiative. Mission, yes! With not politics that's why I think you said they're going away from a micro machine man Yeah or they're going towards movies and i think that would be very Oprah-ish move she wants to go into the big time with movies and of course they already do books Right yeah I can see that well she got a long way to go if she wants to be Oprah Oprah is sophisticated

her ways yeah horrible person but she's sophisticated how she does it I have no qualms with Joe your statement uh let's go ahead and get into this number six part of this daily wire situation right wait I still have clip five okay gotcha I'm sure you would do this job for a mere $40 million, right? Of course. You know, I think this is such an interesting story because first of all did he not think that the 50 million dollars was going to like that the first thing The Daily Wire was going to do

sort of leak that? I mean, like where did he think this was going. Um i also had this feeling watching the Candace Owens rant like...I had the same feeling when Elon Musk put out his proposal for how to end the war in Ukraine which I thought was a really good proposal and everybody started attacking him and trashing him and I was just thinking don't make me- Don't make me defend this guy. Don't make be on his side." And I felt that way watching Candace Owing's video, she was absolutely right! It was interesting to see her coming out and swinging in support of the Daily Wire. Yes she works there but they had a whole kerfuffle over Kanye West, if you recall. She kept defending Kanye and defending him and defending him even as his commentary became more and more anti-Semitic until he ended up defending Nazis. And she kept saying look I'm not going to denounce my friend which fair point but it made the Daily Wire look very bad because Ben Shapiro was getting a lot of flack for that so it seems that at that ... Whatever happened there, I'm sure they were happy to see her coming out in full defense of the platform

Man, I'm so glad we're doing this show now and that we got delayed doing this. So you know work? So we're not we don't eat there's no way you can accuse us of jumping on the pile We're really dissecting the bullcrap that's going on here And and even how this this girl says was still he until it started defending Nazis like okay When I hear this is like look like like you gotta AI voice on Twitter. That's how I hear these things and the funny thing about it was these are liberal reporters or journalists, talking heads...

So they are shocked that Crowder is worth $50 million or more. That's the thing that really got them like, oh yeah, that pisses him off like what? We're working here for a buck, you know, like Buck 10. If that right exactly it's like he's worth 50 million That is that kind of money in the red media and that makes them start to look at things a little different For for a few million dollars speaking out for them But yes, like she pointed out that the whole everybody knew Candace Owens was off code as far as not writing for her employer and

And that's why I would say that they made her go out and earn her keep. That's how I saw it, it might not be that way but that's how I saw it and this just confirms whoever was doing the talk, I forget her name, saw the same thing as me. But that is what Candace wants in one way The what she said don't make me agree with Candace Owens, you know This is I've seen this kind of mean pop-up Like don't make it was it came up when she was in support of Magda stallion and the whole shooting situation She took Meg side right?

And like I write all the people that quote-unquote hate Candace Owens was like don't make me agree with Candice Owens Why are you doing this to me? Why are you making me agree with her so that's kind of yeah, it's a whole talking point interesting Yeah, and she even repeated it there in the clip. So yeah um So I guess now we've talked enough about Candace, I guess we can go jump right in and listen to her word for word unless you got something else. No no i'm good let's go to word for word at the end of the day I think what happened this is my completely my opinion by the way so I'm not blinking twice not under duress Is that Stephen Crowder became a free agent? Hold on a second um...I'm not blinking twice under duress In other words yeah you are! You were told to say like- What she saying there was I wasn't told to say this

But of course, but of course you were Candace that's why you said it I've been around well. I'm old now I know how this works at the end of the day I think what happened, this is my completely my opinion by the way so not blinking twice and not under duress. Is that Stephen Crowder became a free agent and he's feeling a little vulnerable right now right? He's used to working for other organizations. He has some guaranteed pay also the incessant use of write means that she's trying to convince us And she does not do this typically her Her vocabulary is a little more controlled when she's not trying to do things that are unnatural. This is now probably natural for her, but she's trying to convince us of something and that's why she keeps saying right? Right which isn't it's not a typical thing for her I'm glad you picked up on that too because when you see your own like guest spots from Tucker or wherever else She's very tight. She got it. Yeah, she got it tight. She doesn't have to say right You know Tucker will do that for her

So, all right. Now he's used to working for other organizations he has some guaranteed pay and he thought that Daily Wire were actually going to meet him at $120 million they didn't they declined and he still feeling a little shaky on that it's scary to go out on your own I thought about it I thought I'm going out my own is a lot of work maybe down the line I will but it's a scary thing you go out step out on your own and say I am gonna do this thing completely by myself as Jeremy pointed out he was not done that before right and said you get a great people to move in which he was going to try to take a bunch of people that were subscribe the daily wire and start his own company So essentially saying, I'm the hero. I'm the martyr follow me because i'm not like those guys and then he was going to start his own shop and that's what he's trying to do and some people fell for it and said I'm with you till the end a mug club till I die And didn't understand that really nothing happened here other than nobody wanted to pay steven crowder 120 million dollars so we turned to his viewers who he thinks are stupid

stupid enough to understand how business negotiations work, right? This is like normal. You can get back and forth and they were going to make up for his loss so people that are upset by this video the million of millions who watched it are now going to give him a dollar whatever it costs being in the mug club and they're gonna become 120 million dollars that he feels like he deserves. Well, okay so thank you very much. This is a perfect clip except Candace turns it around here and says oh no I'm gonna steal people from the Daily Wire uh-uh The Daily Wire in everything i saw from Mr Boring was that they would love to have his 300,000 people and that's what they kept saying well can you show us the list we want to see do you have three hundred thousand paying members because I believe it. I believe he has maybe not three hundred thousand but he's got a hundred thousand at least. Obviously he's making some bank I mean if speaks for itself if you have 20-25 people

That is a, you know that's like a 12 million dollar probably outdated payroll. Which by the way I don't know why This is always video probably, but it's always baffled me why he needs so many people to do a podcast which is kind of what he should just be doing. I love his on the street stuff you know change my mind I love that But Candace is turning around here and again this proves to me that she is She just turns everything upside down, whereas he really didn't want to give up his mug club that cheaply. That's what I see happening here. He didn't want to just give that up and although it was never in the stuff that he aired and i'm sure he didn't air everything...I think the negotiation was really about that oh you want to take my mug club but then if I leave do I get it back? I mean I think that's what it was about. He didn't want to hand his subscribers over for 50 million dollars

And I just got to lay it out here. And I'm gonna circle back the U-turn, but I have to lay out here because we're falling right into the trap they wanted us to do." They wanted us to talk about the money. Right? That's why the money became the issue, The Money Money Money, Money Money, you heard it he'll talk... Right! You heard it He'll talk about It was 50 million dollars Of course! Its not about the money its about the daily while your working for big tech and who controls big tech? The FBI

Hello, yes have we not seen it tweety tweets and This is this. This is why they started bringing up the money less like moved Money yeah because what he's accusing us of as being part of the uni party And she's even used anti-conservative, anti-republican talking point. I thought it was free market! Right... If somebody could come take your market as long as there is less regulation? Isn't that what they want?! Yeah But now it's like oh he's not playing fair ball He's playing underhanded I thought that was what free marketing capitalism was all about As long as its not

expressly illegal, it's fair game. So they're going against their whole ideology to deflect the fact that they work for the government point blank period and I'm going to prove it. Yeah, right? Okay hold on let me just tilt the lazy boy back for a second because I saw what's going down the money pat which that they want us to sit here have a three hour podcast about the money with the money is not important at all he's worth what he's worth you know there if it was about the money negotiation it gets to some selling point it's the fact that when he got that contract and says

You have to stay inside what big tech says that you have to stay inside of he I'm just no Put myself in his shoes like say Eureka now. Hold on III do want to because of course, you know That's where the whole Big Con comes from This is very analogous to what happened with Spotify and where Spotify bought Bill Simmons sports pod network, what was that called? Sports something. You know me in sports for $300 million and they had Joe Rogan and then they internally... This was a big story just recently

and they internally wanted to say, all right now we're going to lock it off. You're not going to be able to get any of these podcasts anywhere except on Spotify so Joe Rogan is already that way. We're not gonna have Bill Simmons Network go out anywhere but on Spotify and it was Bill Simmons who said uh-uh! We will not be able to perform against your metrics that are given to us based upon the acquisition if we're not on Apple and YouTube and all these other places because the advertising just won't have enough reach. So there is some validity to the business model that they are proposing, but that business model is exactly what it has always been! Stay within the lines don't get kicked off Don't get de-platformed And that's the leverage that has always been there to curtail free speech

Correct, and that proves that they're not really alt-media. They're not really... Of course not! If you're taking ads? No, you're not! That is the lever. That is worse than if you might as well just go stand outside with no clothes on. Well, if you said our advertisers are not happy, that'd be one thing but when you can say YouTube's not happy Big techs not happy and naked shut you down right right in this crowd in this meal you or your saying whatever you would call it word is That's sacrilege what you let a big tech controller. We got rumble we guys that all these alternate things Rumble, it's big I know What I'm just saying is

This is the, we've carved out our own lane kind of thing. And we won't adhere to what this is why we left while I'm walking away you know that was how Candace whole thing about the Republican and Democrat were walking away but now you're just saying they're just another plantation That's all they are. You think you have a choice when you're going over there between the two, but you're just going right into the same trap as you would at The Hill or MSNBC or anywhere else is like you have to subscribe to the thought... Well okay so the money is actually it's reinforcing because that's why they talked about it right here and by the way that was Dvorak first response because I know John yeah I love him but definitely he's like what

if they offered 50 million for no agenda I'd convince you, you do it. No wouldn't he said yeah you would just for a couple years stick it out! No John...no I got a lot more left than you brother and that's what the Hill is basically saying well for fifty million dollars you know I'll do anything! That's pretty much how my mama put fifty million dollars in. I'l even work for the conservative Daily Wire for fifty million bucks that's what's going on here Right, but like Master P said if you offer me 2 million I must be worth 4 million. See that's the actual free mindset of whatever you're saying however you set my valuation for you to make money off of me I have to be worth more than your offering me correct? That's just logic I mean that's mathematical logic so let's go ahead and get into the second part of Candace Owens on Steven Crowder

First of all, I'm going to say this unrelatable Unrelatable people are trying to pay for bacon and eggs right now at the grocery store Trying to buy a steak once a week and you're over here crying because somebody couldn't meet you at 120 million dollars And it is crying. I don't like it was a total bitch move There are plenty of things that happen across all organizations in the conservative movement where I will say that I am empathize and with Steven Crowder I'm saying that sometimes you feel like a cynic which is like is everybody selling out are people doing this people doing that there are a lot of things the daily wire has done but I disagree with there's a lot of things at turning point it's only just that I disagree with. There are things perhaps that PragerU has done, that I disagree with. I have worked with all these companies right?

but to do a total bitch move and go out to the public rather than trying to resolve these things in these slight differences behind the scenes. And to make it seem like you're of a hero, and you're the true one, and you keep it authentic when something really nothing happened or then didn't like an initial term sheet. All I gotta do is tell them that until what you didn't like and go back and forth with lawyers like everybody else. By the way, the last thing I'm gonna say cuz I'm going on Tim Pool's tonight so we're gonna say anyways later Is that I'm pretty sure Wasn't it Steven Crowder who also screwed over somebody he used to work with? Was it Not Gay Jared, because he had him tied up in a contract. Wasn't that Steven Crowder who did that? So is he supposed to be the moral high bar and we're not supposed to call him out for that? Here's thing, Steven why don't you release Not Gay Jared from his NDA and allow him to talk about how he felt he was treated by you? Because I know at The Blaze everyone says that you're actually not that nice, you treat people poorly but you bring so much revenue everybody just has to take it

Wow, talk about airing the dirty laundry. I love it. Mmm, mmmm... I hadn't heard this! Oh yeah, I love it and she brings up a valid point It does Does Stephen Crowder have way slaves? You know we need to overturn this media slave uh... Narrative racket they got going on Not narrative oh no, its definitely a thing Its real, its real Its definitely a real thing Well and what- I just want to say When I worked at MTV I got fired seven times.

Because I wouldn't do it. They never there was never any stipulation like you got to do this You gotta do that, you gotta...you gotta never talk negative about the artist and day two Day two! They brought me up to the press office Carol Robinson always remember Carol Robinson nice lady by the way And they said okay we set up We've got an interview with TV Guide now mind is 87 TV guide was the biggest magazine in America Everyone read the TV Guide We had it. Yeah, of course and was just gonna be a little blurb but you know the intro to oh the new VJ at MTV where I come from and Oh, you know who have you met? So I remember Donna which she wasn't very nice She's pretty insincere Carol Robinson And I thought she was gonna faint because she was you know Of course listening to this call and when I was done I said well how do you think I did? I can't believe he said that about Madonna. I can't believe we're trying to get her for the VMAs

I can't believe that you...I said, wow. And right then and there I knew oh okay this is how it's gonna work so I always fought against it and it did not work you know look they don't invite me back for their big reunion shows You don't see Adam doing a you know, a retro segment on the Video Music Awards This is what we call a habitual line stepper. Adam you are a habitual line stepper As I as I am I yeah actually have a t-shirt that I was given by producer but it actually says this habitual line stepper and that's

I think where we meet at. That's our... The connective tissue between you and me because, I can't be bought honestly. No we know that your very principled and of course right we both believe in reptile people Correct, correct. That's another little connection When they want to make it about the money It is never about the money because not publicly Because these deals get worked out I mean it's just a matter you know what percentage what number how many million The other reason I think that they've made this situation about them

Money because if you make it about the money and you have Jewish people involved, you always can play the anti-semitic card You're so smart. Yeah exactly And I have a clip here. I think this is from young Turks Alex Jones gave his two cents like that Can I just say something about Alex Jones? You you subscribe you and our both subscribe to the value for value But I think selling your own product is really the only alternative You know, if you don't want to be under contract. It's a lot of work I got it but...I think that is the only other way. But it's very successful model which I'm too lazy for? I don't like it. Mostly its t-shirts and swag which is kind what NPR does. Public radio, you get a tote bag or coffee mug Yes Alex Jones has operated and I've seen his operation

Many times his studio is impressive, but his warehouse is even more impressive. And he's got you know that's where all the staff is moving that stuff out You know he's always shooting promos evaluating products so yeah To me, that would drive me crazy. I want to focus on... Maybe that's why Alex has been driven crazy! I just want to focus on what I do and do the best at what I do and I want the value like we do, the value to come from people who are receiving value. I wanna get it back and ask for it not shy about it But yes, that is the way to do it. Or you have to have a whole other organization It's a pain in the ass I just never saw it as something that I would be able to do Right but I was just making that point That's the only alternative if you want to actually free

Is you know is to have your own goods, but that's the I think that's the only two ways you could do it or just take a vow of poverty and just work for nothing Well what we do value for value is is close to that. But yeah, but you know by the same token You can say, hey Adam you know what I need two more days. Something new came to light we'll move it over and I can say shit you know something happened where our own...I think that freedom right there to me is much better than an additional 60 million dollars in all the headache that comes with it And we're gonna get, like I said this show is gonna be it goes deeper than this. But now we gotta get to the other reason take it to the money. Alec Jones goals anti-Semitic and there's some good people in daily war. I don't want to attack them all but I'm going to tell you folks they are worse than the Democrats they are the Judas codes. They are Judas Iscariot Ben Shapiro is Judas Iscariot

That's Alex Jones taking sides with Steven Crowder in the feud between him and Ben Shapiro, and everybody featured at The Daily Wire. And of course making an anti-Semitic comment in the meantime before we get to more of Alex Jones We'd like to give a special someone who predicted that The right wing would turn on Ben Shapiro during Ben's argument with Kansas Owens and Kanye West. We like to give them a little credit so Who was it? Take a look The reason Shapiro is in a tough spot as we explained on day one, the minute Candace Owens said her defensive kind of was I was like, Shapiro's screwed. Because now if he fires her people go cancel culture, now it can't be anti-semites, but freedom speech maybe right? And

a ton of the right wing are anti-Semites. And so he set up his camp in the middle of a nest of vipers, and so all of a sudden he looks around and goes I woke up and it turns out there's vipers everywhere. Wow! This is the other reason why you take the conversation to money No kidding. You know, this is also disappointing it makes it really makes it all It makes all them look like to me just complete worthless people who cares not now I don't know into a grifters You know why? Don't I love yeah Yeah in a way grifters. Yes sure sure big con. Oh Crowder's more right than I thought he was interesting

Yeah, and like the whole idea of getting that on tape in getting new wage slaves and how they're trying to wrangle all the up-and-coming talent and get them under contract so they can control him. It was it was good business from a business standpoint of it you eliminate he understands one competitor the blaze because he worked there Oh yeah And then you can completely eliminate Maybe the biggest outside of Fox News. I only considered him you're saying that conversation, but you say in the quote-unquote independent appearing media That will be the daily daily wire. Mm-hmm. I don't know why it's one state Daily Mail for some reason But the Daily Wire so he got rid of them He understands the blaze there's a lot of market share there and he already has 100 something thousand like you said hundred to three hundred thousand

strong coming in. And he corrects himself as the, I'm Moses here to free you from the big con! But now you see going to the money automatically it becomes anti-semitic. You're talking about money, you're talking about a Jewish person and it has to be anti-semitic And you saw the left hand media jump right on it and run with the talking point that the Young Turks did So this goes on you want to hear more of course? Number nine so the Judas Iscariot line is a deeply anti-semitic trope. It's been used for centuries millennia and so when he calls Ben Shapiro who's Jewish Judas that's not subtle at all

He's basically saying look at the goddamn Jew, okay? And it's terrible. But that's terrible to all of us for right wingers is kind of music to their ears. I mean why do you would so hold George Soros thing? It means we think they're worried about donors and everybody should be worried about donors but no they never talk about the Koch brothers or other democratic donors that are Christian right? Pelosi has raised $1 billion dollars, an overwhelming majority from Christians But they never talk about that. They always talk about Soros because he's Jewish, right? Yeah So Shapiro thought oh no Judea or Christian heritage yeah How is that working out for you so no they were always anti-semites the whole thing with all we support Israel so much You know why right end times theology so that at the end

Israel and all the Jews that live there are destroyed and murdered except for 144,000 that convert to Christianity. So the whole thing of like oh we love the Jews is so... We love the Jews! You can all get murdered in our Armageddon! Wow wow Being relatively new to the Bible but having read some of it It's like wow this is a this is an interesting angle Let that soak in for a minute. He said a lot First I've never put anti-semitism with Judas no Matthew would be more appropriate if you want to do that, you know the tax collector

Correct. I'm just saying that the term Judas like oh, he's a Judas that means you were saying one thing but you were Doing another or you had no your traitor your traitor right? Yeah exactly Which is fitting when you think about what the daily wire was doing. Um, it's fitting that they say their conservative news But they adhere to you know the talking points in the end the rules of big tech so it was but that never crossed my mind To say oh, that's anti-semitism day. You every time you say Judas It means the GD Jews like no what world is he living in I mean what headspace? Oh

It's very telling when people go there. And he right away said, you know the only reason they say George Soros is because he's Jewish No no this...no That's just not true You know our cities are being ruined by the money that he has invested in bogus Attorney States attorney generals and so bad that sells even liberal San Francisco got rid of theirs Right. So no? Yeah, I just found that very telling like where he took it and then say they're there for Israel because they want to kill him! I love that part yeah because end times in times theology all right you got me cuz every time I check always saw like on Fox News

It's Christians raising money for poor little old ladies in Ukraine is Jewish. You know, to get them blankets and potatoes! I love that commercial it's too long but i love it it's very funny so like I said The Daily Wire understood if we make it about the money, then the auto anti-Semitism machine will kick in and they'll do the dirty work for us. And you're hearing it now and he's just going off the rails with it. We said that they're brutal vipers I think that's more anti-semitic

I mean, have I heard that more than Judas? Well you know, be linked to anti-Semitism. But bringing up the vipers...I mean that goes back to Moses and making the bronze snake on the cross. He's confusing a lot of stuff here He just threw it all together. I'm just gonna blame you on anti-semitism Just throw everything from the Bible in there and say anti-semitism, that works Okay Alright Chunk well done So this is the third and final part of him because we can't do too much more of him But he brings up a excellent group of people or name in this next clip Yeah We have a little bit more of Alex Jones so let's take a look at that

The Daily Wire was founded by a billionaire family out of Texas, connected to natural gas and fracking that's involved in a real weird religious movement. That backed Ted Cruz that founded the Daily Wire to take out Breitbart and Bannon to try the populist wing of the Republican Party. Jeremy Boring has admitted that being an anti-Trump platform was their foundation, they were backed by spook related money and spook related sources. Their goal it's not a coincidence they were big backers of Ted Cruz. It's not a coincidence they were big Trump haters. It's not a coincidence they've whored for every war in existence. The Reuters AP Young Turks Media Matters all those organizations all took the spin for

the Daily Wire against Steven Crowder. I think Crowder stumbled into this, Crowder didn't realize he was stumbling into an operation mockingbird operation but to give people an idea the Daily Wire is backed by billionaires probably a billion dollar company makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year this deal was done in order to lock up and co-op and control and cabin and contain conservative voices which was what Fox News has been doing forever And we here at InfoWars are backed by ultimate bone broth. I'm not sure if you saw that behind him, so there's that. Yes, I too have...I did a dive into the family behind The Daily Wire and I don't know it's a weird cult? I'm not sure they definitely claim to be Christians

And yeah, I mean it's big money. Definitely. You didn't find much though did you? Did you? I didn't find the spook money. I like it! I'd like to find out more about that. No, I'm talking about just them over... for people they didn't mention their name in it. I thought they did but let me just explain who we're talking about. Yes We're talking about The Wilkes Brothers. Yes correct Which you didn't find very much information about them. There's a Wikipedia page, but that's about it And the only thing I found is like this land in Idaho that they have that they're beefing with the locals about But like deep into politics and not what it are. Ali ideology is there's like one sermon By one of the brother, that's a pastor and there's this clip I found on you to me where this video? I found on YouTube called The Secret other Koch brothers You never heard of

So he's gonna go into high secret if they are it opens up with this clip of them talking And then he goes into his breakdown of him. So I guess we can jump into that But this is all I could find of them, you know and bring the Bible back into school and start teaching our kids at a younger age and focus on the younger generation. They're being taught the other ideas, the gay agenda every day out in the world so we have to stand up and explain that's not real That's not proper, that's not right. The Koch brothers Charles and David who died in 2019 have almost become an idiom representing corporate right-wing mega donors as a group and indeed they are huge! In the last election cycle they gave more than 1.5 billion dollars

But they're not the only ones. In fact, there are a lot more corporate megadonors like them and one such pair are the brothers Dan and Ferris Wilkes The Wilkes brothers don't get all of the attention that the Koch family does They don't sit down for interviews, there's not a lot of information readily available about them. They're not on social media... There aren't even very many pictures of them! This is every photograph of the Wilkes Brothers that I could find on the internet You'll notice they are only 18 And that clip that i showed you at the beginning Is the ONLY interview that they've done In 2013 for The Christian Broadcasting Network and I showed you that interview in its entirety

Yeah, you're right. I didn't know there's a wiki page that that's all that I ever really found but they are very wealthy That's for sure very wealthy. They made their money in fracking and every and they're very silent to the outer world, but that's a good reason to have an outlet like The Daily Wire because they can push their whatever interests and whatever the interest in at their agenda through that talking point. We should mention that none of this is new media is traditionally

Look at who, you know the New York Times, The Washington Post Chicago Tribune, the Tribune company itself. This is very traditional for big media companies to be owned by very rich citizens Jeff Bezos who use it to move their agenda I was just looking at the you know The Verge got a hundred million dollar investment from Penske Media Company, which is you know one of the kids of the Penske family. The Penske trucking empire and of course he's been in car racing and stuff so now he controls very big swaths of entertainment media this is normal! And why? Well that's their business. Their businesses are entertainment media I would consider car racing entertainment

you know, the Penske brand is they understand how to market this stuff. So this is not new but these guys are just really good at it It's new in the sense of having these renegades come in and propping up I don't want to say unestablished outlets I wouldn't even say propping up I would say providing a foundational base Right So you take these renegades quote-unquote and you put money behind them. They haven't been vetted they haven't went through the journalism schools and the conditioning that your average journalist have to Go through it happening, then they know how to stay in the bounds right if you go through that Conditioning, you know how to stay in the bounds we even see this with

Like Greenwall and what's the uh, Matt? Matt Chibby. Even though they defected They still stay in bounds they you know, they won't totally they so that's what's different when you have people like Crowder and even a Candace Owens and people like that they Play outside of that those bounds. They haven't been conditioned now. They're fighting tooth to nail to get into that um Into that group and they do they do whatever they can not to be fully counseled, you know They want to be reasonable. Mm-hmm And that's the whole thing with them. They want to be reasonable but

You you have a whole nother, you know realm like with the Alex Jones and Everybody all like in on the outskirts. I mean how we even put Tucker in there? I still can't figure out what the hell Tucker has over at Fox that allows him to say what he says then yeah well that's uh, I hate the term but limited hangout would be Would be the right term Would you say that? I mean... Yeah, yeah. His dad ran the Voice of America. Right! That is by definition an intelligence service from the United States government so this is what he saw this this is how he was raised he understands this

So this goes back to the Nellie Fuller statement, that they take all sides of the argument. Which I just don't understand why they give him Is it for credibility reasons? Because he's straight up basically prime time Alex Jones at this point. And you know, actually I think he's gone backwards. I'm not appreciating the stuff he's doing anymore It's really very Twitter-like again You know very Tim Pool like The stuff that is fantastic is his long form interviews which I think is what he as a creative person wants to do

And he really, he's dialing it in as far as I'm concerned on Tucker Carlson tonight. There is really rarely anything interesting It's all outrage topics missing the big picture of so many things. I am not impressed and the only thing that is very impressive Is that there is one slot anywhere on mainstream That goes against Big Pharma and that has to be a Murdoch deal where they said look Look, you've got to give us this. It's the only... The rest of Fox is all pro-Big Pharma All pro military industrial complex every single one of them and they sandwich it between Jesse Waters who's just dumb Just lame You know it's nothing going on there with game shows And Sean Hannity who could he have any more intelligence pins?

FBI CIA NSA he's got all the pins on his lapel so You use the key word Sandwiched yeah, cuz if you watch the last five minutes of one show They talk across it in the first five minutes to the next show. Yeah, and you get whiplash. Yeah, you do It's like what is that's why I find fascinating about it is oh It's the you know, they're such counter narratives to each other and that that's why I couldn't never figure out. I mean I get the limited hangout aspect of it But why even go that way? Um, I mean as this just ratings ratings ratings The ratings are off the off-the-chart is astronomical

So this is their brand basically of Daily Wire and Crowder. And it's not that I don't think Tucker, I think Tucker is very sincere with his daily show on Fox Nation or his interview show. I really feel he just kind of dialing you know really dialing it in for the rest And whoever was there that's not doing the great topics, no one will come on. There is no interviews only you know okay wow let's talk to uh the libs of TikTok lady again come on. The chicken lady! Come on it's a- it's a come on who gives a crap? Oh the chicken lady is like oh! Chicken Lady right yeah. Or the skunk ladies It's like what what the hell going on but nah I'm just I just wanted to bring that up because it at a great point over the limited hangout and that just goes to what Nealey Fuller says are taking all sides sure

I just like, I'm wondering why Fox feels they have to do that. That was my question. Like... That gives them credibility and it gets... No! Not really! Yes it's red meat for your typical look at what's happening now so now the left mainstream in particular CNN, MSNBC. You know they've got the deposition, they've got the emails where everybody inside Fox News thought Trump was a nut job all the people that were Sidney Powell everyone was crazy The text messages from Tucker to Frau Ingraham and back and you know our people are good people really talking kind of like our people are kind of simple who watch us

I mean the whole thing is, and i believe that's how it is internally. And so now they're taking that and they're trying to de-platform the audience you know take the audience away saying see they don't care about you even Tucker Carlson doesn't care about you And that's all the news is trying to lose two people are Fox. It's not making you look better It makes me look worse, of course You got 23 hours of crap and then you have this one hour like it just makes you look like a bigger Pal you know cuz I why would you they have from a programming standpoint? They have to have that our there for the sandwich just tastes good

Okay, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just a grist disagree with their strategy because he's like douchebags No, but of course it's horrible It's it's a very manipulative strategy and for my money I've seen Tucker Carlson not doing much more about you know big picture and topics than Tim pool It's really that level it is not got this. It's not good anymore I will agree with you on that And in what the term comes to mind me is red pill safe space Like they're the on ramp for people that are dabbling with the red pill. You know, it's a good safe on-ramp and I think that's why these people like Candace Owens go there because this is where you can decide what brand of red pill you wanna take. You know, you go to 10 pool and you stick your toe in the water and no pun intended and then you figure out oh, I wanna be, you know, a Crowder type

Red pill or I want a Candace type red pill or you know something a little more hardcore But um just one last thing though one last thing reading about the Wilkes brothers So the way there's the church. They I guess have kind of co-opted co-founded assembly of Yahweh This is a Seventh-day Adventist type thing, uh... Is conservative Jews for Jesus. It's like Messianic Jews! It was very interesting I'd love to know more about it Well number 12 When i decided to write this video I thought that the Wilkes Brothers were going to be just another version of the Koch brothers Right wing fossil fuel billionaires throwing their money around for their own personal business interests

but the more I looked into it, the more I realized that they really are their own beasts. At their core they aren't much more than small town preachers at a Texas church who got lucky and jumped up into Forbes 400 But that church is powerful because of them It's reaching its arms into Austin and Washington And it's becoming one of the most powerful churches in America Who are these people? Who are the Wilkes brothers? And what are they up to? I think that the coverage of these two men, to the extent that it exists tends to treat them as co-equal partners in this relationship. While Dan is definitely involved and approving of everything going on, I think its pretty clear that older brother Ferris is a senior partner in this relationship. Ferris is a little bit wealthier, he's got a larger stake in the packs

Most importantly, for reasons we're about to get into... He's the pastor at their church. Ferris is the dirt farmer says Dan Griffith a local of their town of Cisco Texas who spoke to Reuters. Dan has more Hollywood in him. Okay, all right. So I just this was more information and we can just go right into the 13 because then they get more to the Religious side of it we talked will talk about on other side Ferris Wilkes and this may surprise you is not a Christian or a Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu... Or really anything by his own definition? His church the Assembly of Yahweh Seventh Day not affiliated with Seventh-day Adventist has been called a Messianic Jewish Church. That's a controversial religious sect which claims to be Jewish but recognizes Jesus Christ as the Messiah However all the major denominations in Judaism that Orthodox, Conservative Reform and Reconstructionists

all don't recognize Messianic Judaism or as they call it Hebrew Christianity, as a sect of Judaism. They say that it's actually a sect of Evangelical Christianity which uses the symbols of the Jewish faith to undermine the Jewish faith tricking people into converting into Christianity They also say that Messianic Judaism teaches Christian Supercessionism, which is the idea that Judaism is not a valid religion because it was superseded by Christianity upon the death of Jesus. Rabbi Ephraim Davidson said of one prominent Messianic Jewish group, Jews for Jesus that their techniques are manipulative deceptive and anti-semitic. Likewise a number of Protestant churches including the Evangelical Lutherans United Church of Christ and Presbyterian church have issued statements against proselytizing Jews however Ferris Wilkes' church does not consider itself to be a messianic Jewish congregation

Oh man, I'm not schooled enough but I can say this. One of the people who actually got Tina and me into going to church is a Messianic Jew And her mother in fact survived Auschwitz and wrote a book. Obama gave her the Medal of Freedom or something, and she doesn't seem to be like some tricky Jew who's trying to do shit to us! I think it's kind of easy to say that but it seems a lot more intricate than that

Right, but this is the talking point what this brings up to me more than anything Ben Shapiro's in bed with these kind of people. Yes partners you understand I'm saying like Where where is the disdain that he normally has for everybody else that he had for yay and everybody else it says anything But he's in bed with What they consider to be messianic Jews and you see how there's I want the narrative I'm gonna make that very clear the narrative about them seem to be but nobody holds Ben Shapiro accountable I find it interesting that he takes money from them. And what they're the Vipers, so this is this is the vipers that Chunk was talking about

Yes, and I know several people who are well who speak with Shapiro regularly connected to the Manhattan Institute. You know so he's involved with them that is not a Jewish or Messianic Jewish or anything that is more Christian I would say. So Shapiro plays on a lot of different fields That's what I wanted to point out basically about who was offering the $50 million. At the end of the day, it wasn't boring and it wasn't Ben Shapiro. It was the Wilkes brothers that were writing that check and they wanted another asset in Steven Crowder

In their collection. That's how I see it. Yeah, possibly. Ultimately yeah. I don't know their full involvement. For them it would be more like let's get full coverage. Right and he fits that more if they're trying to go with the culture Because he's more into the comedy. Yeah, and in the skits and things that I like that And when doesn't really get more that much into hard news right in journalism So that would be that would be on brand for them so we got some clips here We can kind of breeze through these but it was just more about the contract because Kanye West is

Being the visionary That he is was talking about these contracts almost three years ago I mean this this was coming up what we saw him go through With the whole Defcon thing everything like that with a culmination of a three-year battle over contracts so this is from Two a little over two years ago almost three years ago. Um And this is the joe budden podcast and they're speaking on the kanye west contract breakdown Well, stop trying to deflect man kanye walk us through it A few days we spoke about it last pod It doesn't seem like this is just an egotistical about him type of thing He seems like he's just trying to change

The narrative you know for all artists or creators He's trying to he's just trying to change what system has already been in place for years And I like it the pissing on the Grammy thing was a little far from me Yeah, yeah Because you have to actually go out of your way to put a grammy in the toilet and piss on it You know we definitely removed that's not still in the toilet But this is like and just imagine sitting there drinking water like hold on give oh Give me one second. Yeah, almost done? That was just a little weird but... Time it out the piss! I understand the messaging behind it and I like what he's doing this is to me probably the best Kanye rant that we've gotten because its not just about him It seems like it's about all artists that he's trying to fight for and all artist rights so I respect that

I love it. I'd like to see what the action plan is because he's asking something that is to some degree Insane when it comes to these types of deals, let's ask for the masters just to give every artist their masters back That's like I'm with yay all the way on on everything that he saying I love what he's saying I'm with all this shit. I would just love to know what the action plan is showing me a text message to talk to them, which is great because even talking to these people I didn't even know they had phones. Like these people...I had no idea you could really text these people. That was part of Kanye's thing! We don't even know these people yet and they own more of my shit than I do. I've heard none of these names in my entire life

Because you can't call them, they call you. Thank you! Right on time with the Boule. Now y'all understand how the Boule phone works? That's how it works. It doesn't ring back. It only dials out one way so once again this just leans to the whole point of I'm sure that it was The Wilkes Brothers money But you're not going to be talking to these people. You know, I mean they're your hired help Let's just see what your employee in their business and that's what Kanye was saying with this whole situation Like I said we can breeze through these clips but I just want a really a matter of fact let's go ahead and get into jump down the 17 because this is two lawyers talking about the contract in plain English and you spoke about this

Has much change is this a new conversation about contracts in the media music or doubtful? Well, so it's basically the same thing. It's interesting I was listening to I was in the car yesterday driving back from my surgery so i'm like, you know my mouth is all numbed up and stuff. I'm drooling. And listen to Sinatra, Simply Sinatra channel 70 on Sirius XM and there's this show where they have someone talk about Frank Sinatra and play records and it's Tim McGrath? I think he played for the St Louis Cardinals if im not mistaken

And he also later did commentary, calling games etc. But he was a performer entertainer singer and he went to Vegas on an off day with a couple of guys from the team and you know and to Sinatra's show. That is kind how it works. It is like oh we are going in so Frank is going call out say hey good to have you here And Sinatra's on stage, he says hey they're the guys from The Cardinals you know we got the same boss. So what do you mean? Because you know Sinatra... He was given a Budweiser it was an Anheuser-Busch What's his name probably Woody I guess or grinder whatever the old guy and he gave they'd given him a beer distributorship

And you know, you just see the power right there of Sinatra saying we got the same boss. So we don't really get an offer that we both have to work for the man he's just saying that on stage so this has always been this way in sports and entertainment it's always been about The Benjamins at the end of the day and everybody who is really in it bows down to it and Kanye is right if you saw the most recent Grammys holy mackerel Right You have to do what you're told to do if it's played the devil. Yeah Well, and well that number 15 that we just play from I think 14 that would just play from the Joe buttons podcast these masters this is the same thing that they're talking about with

With uh your your rights to your content. Yes Uh that you don't own it, which I find is crazy That you don't own what you make? I can see either way if I did if I was making throwaway content They just said we were making this show and it was just us yakking You're saying like whatever I could see it from that point where if you're making like albums and documentaries And things like that a beat that'll last that it's evergreen, I guess that's the word you use for it. I couldn't see signing my rights away to it. That's crazy. Of course this is somewhat an antiquated model before back in the day

If you needed the hit factory or one of these big studios, need the right producer. You need the relationships, you need the right lawyers and all the things that a record company gives you That's their stipulation! Paul McCartney didn't own his masters Michael Jackson at some point owned the masters to The Beatles stuff That's why Michael Jackson had to go in my opinion I agree. I don't own a single thing like the work i did on television in the Netherlands, the work at an MTV...I know I don't get a residual from that they can do whatever they want with that for in perpetuity so whether you want to take the money up front which by the way is the biggest scam because there's this thing called recoupment

in the music business. So you think that you're getting all this money and you think that you're getting the studio, but no, you're actually paying for it yourself out of your advance. Same thing with books so yeah I mean now... And this is- Now this thank you for bringing this up This is the culture America that's going to eventually break through Our culture is once we take away the Amazons book publishers people who write books will have their own decentralized distribution mechanism, very similar to podcasting. Podcasting is the last right now as far as I'm concerned the only mechanism that allows you to own and distribute anything you want your own way without anyone really being able to stop it. Thank God for Bitcoin because now we have a... You can't financially de-platform either This is going to happen with music

And I'm working with some really smart people who have set up hosting companies to host music that people have not licensed to ASCAP BMI, that people have not made under the auspices of owning your masters because you don't need to do that anymore. And surprise surprise when you do it value for value, you make more money than you do streaming on Spotify. This is the revolution we're going through upend everything in America and Kanye hasn't quite seen it all yet. He sees the problems, he doesn't like the solution yet because he does like flying private

You see? And there's not a lot of private flying in the culture that we're building. It may never happen, you know it's more like you get what you deserve I have a great life! I can fly myself...I can take lessons..I can't fly private but i can get as far as I really need to go and that takes a whole change of mentality and unfortunately I still think that when it comes to music And it doesn't matter whether you're Taylor Swift or whether you're Kanye, image positioning, crystal all this shit is a part of it. If you don't have it, you are not seen as legit. See that's the thing though The record company can put all that behind you but if the people aren't with me being a musician and an avid music fan

They can't pick the winners. Case in point, I'm gonna give you just one case in point, Flo Rida. Like, he had the machine behind him everything but he didn't have that connectivity to relatability is the term I want to use with the people and that's why we picked Kanye. You know what I'm saying? Kanye wasn't meant to be a star it was all He's relatable to at the time young men like me that you know Didn't have you know, we're not gangster or not this and hip-hop It's like oh he's like the kid down the street that makes beats I know And that's what made him relatable and he's That's why they can't cancel them because the people picked him. The record labels They can put people in front of you all day Demi Lovato and all these people names

Nobody liked these people. Okay, no yeah I get it but now back to so... Now we're right back to where we were So where did Kanye really make his money? Not in music He had to have his own product he had to have his Adidas just one of the many things but just use as an example He didn't control that business either And you know if you so if you Alex Jones doesn't really control the contents of his of his product I agree is someone else and you know what they're going after that kind of product. So, so The best way in my mind is if your if you have talent keep it pure and you'll get there

You'll get what you need. You'll get exactly what you deserve Yes, you will I've proven this over and over again But if use if you think If you think it's private jets that you want yeah Well then you got to go with a private jet crew which that's the only way they can bait people in but that's what they're doing content creators now is The Mr.. Beast and those kind of people like oh this time deals with YouTube so like now they're flying private Jet because Kids are leery about record contracts, you know like signing a record contract is kind of like signing your life away Every single kid would do it in a heartbeat because they're the worshipping false idols. They see if oh this is great Mm-hmm I'm not sure about that though. I'm not sure III will say people my age Maybe down to 30 years

But the newer crowd, they're like oh no I can upload mine to whatever you know. Stop stop stop right there! That's the trap? I can upload mine to whatever that and then you get some money from YouTube and then you're in the trap And then you got a do it five times a week You gotta trick the algos you got that's the trap This is why i was off putting To find out that the daily wire had big tech looking over their shoulder you see what I'm saying? Oh, I thought it was I thought we were free over here But even that point and a lot of people are not even monetized on YouTube to the point where I never Accepted the quote-unquote partnership because he's like nah. I don't sign stuff. I don't understand You know saying is this too much Like what can you say to me and a lot of times like that's

Wow, I guess knock on wood. I don't get bothering you too even when I post these shows Because like they're making free money off of me by putting ads on it They've also taken they've also taken one of our shows down I think we've at least had one that was taken down. Yeah, it was more across the music Okay More in the content, but I'm just saying that they look at me like he's a fool He's working for free you know That's that's how they look at it because they're making money off of putting ads on my on my show but I'm like, okay fine. I'll let you put ads on my show as long as it don't bother me and even still like I said I never signed that deal and I think a lot of people are going to that we've been here with music before And we can kind of rap on it and Gary go into the... because we kinda covered what was in this back-and-forth we're having into playing English of the Contract cause you have far more experience with these like the music business but

We've been here before. Hold on, do you know when it was pure? When hip-hop was making beats at home putting it on a cassette making cassettes that was pure that is the purest... That's like podcasting! That is completely pure we need to go back to a version of that a modern day version of that And we're gonna, it's going to happen with music but they're not gonna go easy. They're not gonna do everything they can to stop it because they love their plantation and that's not just for black artists as for all artists Taylor Swift yeah because her dad the influence in the money he has

That's how she was able to re-record all of her masters, circumvent all the lawsuits so she could have her quote unquote music back. But she too took the big money up front from Scooter like okay yeah let's go let's do it here is your bag of cash and make some songs and then always later is like well give me my master's back no oh So you gave it away and they juxtaposed her against the boogeyman Kanye. That was well done that was her dad too I'm sure he arranged that. I can see that happening but we are grateful to the people who allow us to be free

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Literally his brethren in conservative on the conservative right is In bed with or has these cushy deals with a lot of the big tech companies. Well, guess what? So does everybody Big Tech is the reason why many many of us have voices in media they carry the message on YouTube, on Twitter, on Instagram, on TikTok. All of that's big tech without big tech and some level of communication with them you would not have a voice so it is interesting to me that he is using this as a demonization but also that to Candace's point and I don't agree with Candice off If you are going to have these squabbles, you could've had this with them personally. This never had to come into the public square. The recording didn't have to happen. Turn down deals—I'm sure everybody on this panel all of us that probably turned down deal before we didn't make a public hubbub about it. It's just not that deep. Wow! Who is speaking?

I didn't get her name. Sorry about that, but she's a contributor for the hill. We all got deals! We got offers all the time! Right Moe? You wouldn't hear from us if it wasn't for Big Tech we're on by them and bend over. Just bend over Crowder How are you special? I think you supposed to bend over Everybody at Big Tech thank you our overlords The big tech model is you do all the work you get nothing we get all the money That's how it works And but then they wonder why they're not worth 50 million dollars. It's like right You're not worth 50 million dollars cuz big tech is doing all the heavy lifting and to be honest with you. Um Your content is not that interesting I'm just sorry, I mean Way but you have to be interesting To stand out and build your own following you have to make it a learning product That's the bottom line making outstanding products

They're plug-and-play and it's like if you're a plug in play then Easily on the scrap think about how lame it really is If you if you really step back and look at most most of these quote unquote shows It's distributed on big tech, and it's about big tech content. It's about what someone said on Twitter that You know and then it's about what someone else said on oh on this YouTube Let's and we're gonna talk about what that youtuber said on YouTube. They love it That's the whole model for them What more Twitter more so and that's why I say with either our must bought Twitter he actually just bought the AP I mean that the modern-day version of the AP because whatever trends on Twitter, and that could be

Astro turf they can make train whatever they want. Oh, of course Yeah, yeah, that's what you want down That's where it bleeds down to YouTube people make videos about on YouTube then it eventually makes his way to articles and Articles become points of discussion on on YouTube and on Twitter It's very circular If it's viral then it goes to local news where me? Then pick and Tucker picks it up or the CNN picks it up exactly, right So that's that's pretty much the point but it was just a how-to matter of fact. She said oh yeah We're all in bed with big take I found that to be interesting because

Well, let's go on and get to the second part. We're going to have to get what does that really mean? And the action but the accusation he is making as The Daily Wire that they are... That's really what's at the heart of this. Because in his deal they would take money deduct money from him if he gets in trouble for the things he says and it is suspended or something on YouTube or elsewhere Having that clause in the contract would be like The Daily Wire caving to big tech censorship. That's the accusation, which is a really serious charge to put on a conservative company like The Daily Wire that always complain about Disney and other places doing what woke censors want or whatever. But I question how uncommon this actually is? And I say that just because- Not right now uncommon at all!

de-platformed to a certain extent, or your viewership is removed for any reason and the entire contract was based on the viewership and what you were able to bring along with it. Wouldn't that automatically mean that at some point you lose your value to them? I feel like that's a simple billion price thing. That's basically exactly what Jeremy Boring said in his response video. we're gonna spend 50 million dollars on you if your ability it wouldn't be us punishing you but if YouTube punishes you and you're making, bringing in far less viewers and far less dollars which is good. We couldn't continue to pay that amount yeah who's slave to whom? Well we know who the slave is

and outlets that take these slave contracts are the overseers pretty much. But they tell what their big tech masters tell you what to say, it's like you know the guidelines, you know the rails just stay in bounds and you won't have any problems which that censorship in itself which that's the whole point this is what I was saying about Tucker Carlson for a minute. I don't think they understand If Fox's goal is to make themselves look better, it only makes you look worse because now you're saying what you could be but you're not.

You see what I'm saying? Like, they don't...I don't think they understand the audience that tunes into conservative media. And i'll just say alt-media for that standpoint because we had this same thing with the Ados conversation you know once it got picked up and taken to the Russian big media yeah Russian bots! That was the natural response to it so but for the people to quote unquote what I call a black thumbs they don't understand Our litmus test to if you're quote unquote real or not, it's very sensitive. And that goes to the conservative side even the liberal side and definitely in the black media space that they try to create like Roland Martins but once you start talking we pick up on the bullet talking points and its over

So that's why I think it's so damn maybe she said herself. That is so damning when you make this allegation to the daily wire is that It makes them impotent Yes right away in a very serious way, which I think that's why they even said yourself He didn't say their name But they had to come out and do damage control just off the... You know, because people were like it's got to be Daily Wire. It was no confirmation They confirmed it themselves Which there was a reason for that Yeah, because you can't let that thing linger. We got to give it about the money so we can make about anti-semitism and get people to shut up talking about it but I ain't. No! Because there was an allegation made in Alex Jones' set of clips that this was Operation Mockingbird

So you want to give people what your idea of Mockingbird is and then we're going to get into a very interesting person that has an opinion on it. Mockingbird goes back to the mid-late 60s, and the CIA specifically was either directly in positions of journalistic importance within the US mainstream media particularly CBS Evening News but also The New York Times Members of my family were actually in a way involved in this to a degree because there's another layer which would be people who would hand off stories and quote-unquote news to editors, et cetera and media. And there is a third part of that which is the circular reporting where you do this I'll just give an example

You have an agent or someone who was able to get something published in the Nairobi Times that is politically important to the US, or the intelligence agencies. And then they will talk to their counterparts at The New York Times and say well you know you can just report on this because look you can say according to The Nairobi Times This all came out in something called the Church Commission led by I think it was either Senator or Congress, I think Senator Church where this was admitted openly although they couched it a bit and some had to be done in closed session that indeed CIA works within mainstream media at the time. It was only a few corporations and they were doing this and I think that

even though laws were put in place. as part of that Smith-Mundt, the Smith Mundt Act which forbade the American government in any way including the voice of America to commit propaganda on the American people. That was overturned in 2012 during Barack Obama's presidency as part of the National Defense Authorization Act and the reason why is the same outfits that Tucker Carlson's father worked for and controlled at at the time were saying, well now there's the internet so we can't function without the risk of creating some propaganda on our own people because hey it's the internet. And they went oh you're right and they overturned it and so now that I think since then since 2012 has never been as bad with assets reporting either directly or controlling

News media and in fact all media in totalitary, and I would say that we're in Mockingbird 2.0 or maybe 3.0 at this point It might be micro mocking bird. I'm as corn is just term I just corn because listen to you explain it I knew how it worked Yeah, but just listen to you think about it now they don't have to plant the stories of Well, they only had to publish it. They can find somebody making the point and just put the amplifier. For instance I believe Barry Weiss is micro mockingbird

And she, yes because she has you know. I also think to a degree possibly maybe not even 100% in their own with all their knowledge but i think Glenn Greenwald Matt Taibbi they're also receiving Mockingbird talking points Even...I would say even the entire Twitter files from Twitter is very similar to what Glenn Greenwald did with Snowden. Maybe 5%. of what Snowden revealed was published in the Guardian and The New York Times, and I think what is being sent from lawyers and other people who have the actual access to documents is also being heavily redacted and filtered into Matt Taibbi and Barry Weiss and others who are reporting on Twitter. We're just getting a little bit—a little bit—of what really was going on there, and it already is quite astonishing what was going on that we know about

And I wouldn't even go as far saying it has to be known people If we go back to the show about the Popeye's chicken sandwich, they took unknown people right? Amplified the story. Yeah nudge the hell out of people and then you have Groups of people lined up around a corner buying a chicken sandwich Just off of a news story that they created our thin air by amplifying tweets It's called PR Right, so I'm saying that's the best they don't even have to hand their stories off anymore because you have so many opinions in the ocean That is Twitter that you can just pluck it out and say okay. This is when we were amplified And okay We'll put you know will put a machine behind it and it will get people talking all it has to be as a binary

You know, you see these stupid quick stories like do you wash your legs? Do you wash the backside of your plate. I think these are all tests to see is our... it's like a stress test to see if our machine is still working. Oh yeah! Right And and if you read the Twitter files you'll see that there's just as much talk of suppression as there is of amplification Correct, so that's why I think that's what I call a micro mockingbird because you don't need all these established agents anymore and assets. We could take anybody, and they're so happy to be viral that don't even ask any questions you know? And that's kind of how Candace came about if you think about it because she made the I'm walking away or Blexit or I'm a black person there is no longer going to be a Democrat. They were like yes! You know fire, you understand fired up and they put all resources behind her

Thank you for your explanation of mockingbird we can go and get into 23 And it is in just further about what you just explained So I feel pretty comfortable stating that if the entire mainstream media network is for or against something You should probably edit your opinions to be the opposite of what theirs is because it's pretty clear right that they don't act wait, what she did say She said if the entire mainstream is doing one thing you should do the opposite. Is that what she said? But didn't we just hear from The Hill, that the entire mainstream got behind... No it wasn't The Hill it was Alex Jones said it clips That their entire mainstream got behind Daily Wire

Yes, isn't that interesting? You should probably edit your opinions to be the opposite of what theirs is because it's pretty clear that they don't actually have any individual opinions, these journalists. They're always in lockstep on various narratives." So yeah it does sound like they are a bunch of mockingbirds which is appropriate of course because that was the CIA program title it was called Operation Mockingbird you are not a conspiracy theorist for knowing the truth and you are correct

If you know about the Mockingbird being something that the CIA has never discontinued Yeah, they never discontinued it huh? No of course not so y'all work for big tech and Big Tech get from the 20-20 leaks They take their marching orders from alphabet letter agencies You know, three-letter agencies. Yeah? So they directly or indirectly work for... The government. For the intelligence. The government! Well and let's just make it very clear CIA runs the whole show. CIA is very careful they control the FBI. The CIA runs the presidents except for Trump that was probably the Defense Intelligence Agency

Everyone's very afraid in Washington of the CIA. They're out of control, there is no oversight, no one knows how much money they have, and no one knows what they do... And they run this show! They run the entire show in my opinion. I believe you are correct on that. But I just find it interesting that she made this show prior to the release of what was going on. And even, it's crazy that even to bring up Operation Mockingbird or Paperclip or whatever operation used to be all you can't say that are you become a 10-4 hat wearer? Now is okay to bring it up

You know, it's okay for Tucker to talk about it. For her to talk about it and still be taken as a serious journalist. Ah! And that's what I mean by limited hangout there... I get what you're saying yeah. This is this is what makes it work that this is that perfect combination of put something out there people go oh yeah wow yeah right on and then that's all you need That's all you need The only thing I push it back against is not against you to Fox if y'all listening. It's not working It only makes you look worse than the desired effect is doing the opposite Right, but because now the numbers are killing it that so ultimately that's all they care about They're the rain yeah, I'm healing it but yes, I agree in long and along run They'll lose I believe that too Yeah Because this just makes it like the other 23 hours were for news like oh

And it makes us stick out like a sore thumb with your analysis of being unlimited hangout. It's like, it has to be because if it was business related, we're all we need more tuckers. You know? We need to get this whole block for seven to 10 with more Tucker light thought process or thought like thinkers like the school of thought. Yes. That proves it right there. Absolutely So I'm with you on that one, but they don't understand. They just like they came up with the term fake news and Like they didn't not them But the mainstream media and all of think they understood how people were gonna take there and weaponize it back against him

You're dealing with a smarter audience now. I don't think they realize that well, I think Trump caught that from them and he's the one that turned... He didn't invent the fake news. He turned it around and used it as a weapon against them That's what saying the mainstream media invented It is the same thing like they invented these things They don't understand how memes work you know like a fact check right now if you fact-check something That's a roundabout way of saying its true Yeah yes pretty much And people all know that it's bullcrap Correct. So let's go ahead and get into the second part of this Operation Mockingbird First and foremost, in case you are not aware of what operation mocking bird was and still is it was a large scale project undertaken by the CIA beginning in the 1950s In which they recruited American journalists into a propaganda network

The recruited journalists were put on payroll by the CIA, which means me and you. We paid for that—and instructed to write fake stories that promoted the views of the intelligence agencies. So some journalists were assets to the CIA and were on the payroll. Other journalists were unsuspecting assets of the CIA because they thought they had a leak, that they were being given information. And they ran with the stories because they thought they were being told the truth." Right ever since Donald Trump was president. We've heard sources say source is familiar with the President's thinking sources who are in the know That's your intelligence right there when you're close to the matter closest sources I like I like the one source is familiar with the President's thinking that's always my fear But it like a like I said, I'm just laying this out and her own words now if you look through the lens that she's creating

at what transpired between Daily Wire and Crowder. It makes them look like agents." Yes, five by five! And I think they have to...I think they realize that and that's why she had to come out so there was a B move and it's about the money it was always about the money he wanted 120 million dollars you know is it's about them no is that your and I just keep had to reiterate this point You work for the government That whole operation is further. It's maybe indirectly But you work for the government this like it was okay, you had to get the okay signal start questioning questioning that the jab

No, they had to get that dad to look both ways is like okay now we can start questioning Fauci you were out You are all in for it when I say you daily wire as an operation. We're all in on further jab Yeah, you're gonna kill grandma. Do you know that was there? You know they were using those kind of talking points but then it's like okay. We need the pivot and And this is white supremacy taking both sides of the argument, or all sides of the argument. You know to the point where if you're... This is the problem with binary because when you buy into the binary itself, you're taking debate.

Don't buy it look for that. That's kind of what we try to do here is the shades are gray We're not all on team Crowder or I'm Team Daily Wire, you know no It's a far bigger narrative that we need to be looking at other than just like some conservative beef right? All right so this is Old documentary and this is how the media are used by the CIA to manipulate public opinion loss I was gonna be public public opinion lies disinformation and Covert actions. So this is a former agent He's gonna like just give us more how the sausage is made We don't have to listen all of them, but thought it was just

Interesting here from the horse's mouth. I sent over a paper to the State Department For their press rep, the hiding Carter you know the guy that speaks out every day on world events To read and I had four paragraphs in it because the situation was changing at night And I said with a note call us before you go on the air in the morning I'll tell you which paragraph to read and they were all for totally false And and they as a matter of fact, they called in the morning and I said You know paragraph 3 and they read paragraphs 3 and then went with it you know Which is utter complicity in putting out? The propaganda the disinformation so that was the CIA giving information to the State Department To put out on our media. Yeah Oh yeah this is this is very important That I like these clips So there's State Department is very important because they what do they have around the world embassies

So, you will find that most people who work at an embassy are in fact assets. They are intelligence agents. The State Department has their own intelligence agency which is small but very effective I think Hillary Clinton last managed that very well so it's basically if you look at all of it there's what 15-16 intelligence agencies also known now as the IC the Intelligence Community This is what they do. There's not a lot of... jumping out of airplanes and spying anymore, listening through walls. I mean sure it happens but this is really what they do is drive the messaging. Of course this was also when President John F Kennedy said you know hey we got secret societies he was talking about the intelligence apparatus and they killed him over it The CI has assaulted its agents throughout Congress every committee

It's done this, you know it did it three decades ago. Oh yeah this is the Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee all spooks and we're seeing it once again, but it's standard. But we did have in November of 75, we had the CI director Bill Colby who had been putting out our propaganda line to the Senate, our lies was tied up on a trip or something and so Bill Nelson, the deputy director of operations went over to stand in for him and he said before he went I'm not going to lie and he just flat-set it in a staff meeting. He said, I'm retiring in three weeks and I'll be damned if I'm gonna spend my retirement answering perjury charges! So he went over there and told the truth now Ambassador Mulcahy said one thing and then Nelson testified and said exactly the opposite And so they had a direct head to head contradiction. And so the senators nailed Mulcahy One of you gentlemen is lying

And so Mulcahy asked for the opportunity to speak again, at which he clarified his statements and told the truth. But the interesting thing was that that testimony refuted everything else we had been saying for three months. They did not investigate and follow up on it and indict especially Bill Colby for perjury which they could have on the basis of that. They just let it go there was no follow-up to it." Yes, and the reason for that is the pure fright most people in Washington have for the intelligence agencies. You'll recall, I'm actually going to see if I can find it... Chuck Schumer

I don't think I have this. He was on Rachel Maddow's show and he was saying how stupid Trump was to go against the intelligence agencies because they have six ways to Sunday, to get back at you because Schumer knows it was a brilliant moment. The emphasis of this documentary is about the CIA and the media but there's a larger framework in this too which we've talked about in our program from time to time that is the overall line of the State Department, the White House

Is this a coordinated thing or do all these organizations just do their lying separately and it adds up to one big falsehood? Read Noam Chomsky's Turning the Tide. To get a feeling for the way our, you know it's what they call the establishment in the 60s. The way they are committed, the elites that run the country which includes the State Department and the CIA and presidents and politicians they have a charter, you know to run the country in their interests and this means that they not exactly lockstep but they just presume to have the right to mislead people. It's part of the way The United States is and God knows most other countries as well They are not bound by honesty and integrity

And this is, I think this showed up on YouTube not too long ago. It's a 1983 interview with this agent and i'll put that link for the full interview we have most of it here but put that in the show notes. Dan let's just listen to the last one since I'm digging this I like hearing this Their whole ethic is they're doing illegal things and you know they teach you from the first day in training cover stories and you practice them at length, and the director practices them. And when he briefs the Congress he does the cover stories. White House staffers are not trained professionally but there it's in the ethics of politics, ethics of a business

They're putting out a myth about the world, a myth about the United States' nature. Chomsky notes that the compelling force, the ethic against which all foreign policy decisions are made is defense of the fifth freedom. You know, the four freedoms were Roosevelt and Churchill in January of 41 we were fighting the war for the freedom of speech freedom of religion, freedom from want, freedom from fear. And the fifth freedom is what has compelled our actions in reality then and ever since and that's the United States' freedom to rob, exploit and kill. Every situation is measured by our right, our imperial right it's not a divine right-

I want you to rewind it back maybe 10 seconds and he says the fifth freedom listen to that cold laughter. Here we go, you know the four freedoms were Roosevelt in Churchill and January of 41 We were fighting the war for the freedom of speech freedom of religion, freedom from want, freedom from fear. And the fifth freedom is what has compelled our actions in reality then and ever since and that's the United States' freedom to rob, exploit and kill. Every situation is measured by our right, our imperial right it's not a divine right but our imperial right

Did you hear that? He wasn't denying it. He was like, yeah that's true Yeah we do kill like a mug Well just look at our lifetimes Moe If your brown and live in a sandy area You're in trouble You know, they tell me I'm crazy when I use the term white supremacy When they throw around terms like establishment Imperialism same thing. That's that's the same exact thing The only problem is those are like all Whimsical names you know it doesn't really give you any identifier or

You know just like oh, yes the Empire well. I know it's just the empire We're just killing like we normally do but how about this for a thought you know the whole reason behind the acceleration and amplification of racial division Specifically white black is for this reason so that you can't expose the white supremacy They definitely they're hot and by in plain sight in that there you They're pushing the orange people out there to be the face of white supremacy. Oh, yeah That's the best of white supremacist what but at the same time using their Tactics and power To treat them like people of color Correct. There's their stripper no way this is why I said privilege is given to you only whites are premises

Can give that privilege they have supremacy. They do and they don't need privileges, right? Oh we could just like that laugh that laughs. Yeah. It's cool. It's cold. It's cold is yes Yes We kill we lie and notice the four freedoms That they were talking about before is exactly what's under attack right now Yep The freedom of religion the freedom of speech their freedom of lack of fear To live without fear, no you need to be afraid all the time. You need to watch what you say and don't be vocal about what you believe and I forgot what the last one was freedom or won't No! You need to be dependent on a government And we're going to use the fifth freedom to ensure that we manipulate those first four freedoms Look at Afghanistan look at Ukraine look at Taiwan will be next

And this benefit... Go ahead. Look at the neighborhoods that Soros is destroying with his agents! Those criminals are agents of Soro's I don't care what you say, him getting them out of jail and they're running no These neighborhoods and beating old people and robbing stores everything else That's they're giving white privilege to these criminals. Yeah, like yes that fear freedom Yeah We gonna give y'all criminal criminals privilege to exercise their fifth freedom on who it doesn't matter the people close to proximity The rest right as long as you create the fear in us and the wall And and they better not say anything

You know, this is why I do what I do. Because if you have a view... Nellie Fuller said it If you don't understand white supremacy and how it works everything else will confuse you Yes And confusion and chaos is the goal It's just that laugh That's the first time I heard that laugh As many times as I listened to the clip clipping And it would that laugh like yeah, this is what we do. Uh-huh? Yeah like That's troubling to me that that's troubling but that was back in the day I think you said 1983 83 Tucker Carlson he's gonna go anyway He does and would like I'm glad they're saying out in public cuz

Because it allows us to clip it and break it down and analyze it. But this is how it works... Go ahead. I was just going to say, Tucker is perfect for this role I listen to CNN, MSNBC NBC ABC CBS all the time and usually in the car because of the Sirius XM so i can hear that cable news as well. And to the T every single show Ari Melbourne Joy Reid does all of them Aaron Burnett on CNN Anderson Cooper CIA asset

They're all playing little clips, little clips of intros to these stories that come from Twitter and they're just saying wow they've gone so nuts over there. Tucker Carlson has gone completely nuts he thinks the FBI was running Twitter oh no listen to this stupid conspiracy theory! So they completely steer...they use this to steer everyone away Because that's just nut job Tucker Carlson. That's just, you know...Tucker Carlson doesn't even believe in Trump. Here is the text messages which of course is very nuanced So it is the perfect opportunity to distract everyone into believing that this is just another fake news conspiracy theory from Fox News and conservative media, that Twitter was running or that The FBI was running Twitter. By the way Time Magazine 2010 Mark Zuckerberg man of the year

Have we talked about this? I'm sure we've talked about this before. No, I don't think we have! Okay iIve talked about it so much that... let me see 2010 Man of the Year Mark Zuckerberg Time Magazine he's in the interview itself It's printed you can put the link in the show notes Zuckerberg is talking to time magazine doing an interview and then it says all of a sudden Oh yeah, okay. I thought it was a clip but... No no no, I wish it were a clip. All of the sudden man puts his face in the door and says hey you know I was just downstairs at my office in the building just wanted to say hi! And that was Robert Mueller director FBI who was director for FBI two years longer than statutorily permitted they had to have you know carry over from 2008 into Barack Obama's term

They allowed him to stay on as FBI director two more years against the law because FBI had such a bad reputation from its history, which we've discussed on this very show that no director was allowed to be director for more than 10 years except Robert Mueller. We had to keep him for a couple extra years because he knew where all the bodies were buried and there he was in the Facebook offices and even in the reporting of the article The journalist said that was one of the weirdest things I ever saw and no one really knew what to do with it because that's how they've been in these companies since day one. Wait, this is the mind screw take two steps back and look at it me an you both know who created the internet and social media? Of course! It's the government running this governmental organization That's the thing like... The way they frame it is like oh

Facebook is this corporation independent and it has government oversight No, it's a government agency with private facing CEO look at It's cognitive dissonance. I had to say this yeah, but even cuz I hear people say that all the time in When people say oh I had covert three times four times. It's like how do you know? How do you know you had COVID? We all know the PCR test is bullcrap. Even people didn't know that, even I'm just saying this to... This is how stick it's tricky this stuff is that they'll stop you who know and believe they'll have you speak against it out of being contrary

Correct. We both know who created you were saying the Facebook we know that was a government creation So why wouldn't it be ran by the government using? It kind of like oh, it's just government oversight No! The door opened, I'm reading from the article. The door opened a distinguished looking gray haired man burst in It's the only way to describe his entrance trailed by a couple of deputies He was both the oldest person in the room 2010 By 20 years and the only one wearing a suit he was in the building he explained with the delighted air Of a man about the secure ironclad bragging rights forever And you just had to stop it and introduce himself to Zuckerberg Robert Mueller director of the FBI pleased to meet you

They all shook hands and chatted about nothing for a couple of minutes then Mueller left there was a giddy silence giddy silence Well, everybody just looked at one another as if to say what the hell just happened Inc you tell go look at ink you tell inkutel is the venture capital firm Of the CIA not they're not hiding it and they've funded many of these companies including Palantir That's my point. It's like this is these are correct. These were government created pretty much entities the NSA was already it's no alphabet You know saying a history of alphabet, you know every all of this But they'll make it seem like oh now we're just oversight that's all we're doing No No I'm not gonna fuck because if you fall for it then you're living in our false reality

We know what Twitter is, we know what Facebook is. Moe... Everything is fake! Everything we know is fake when they say the simulation yeah kind of media is the simulation it's all fake there's been that way for a long long time and that's why they hate people like us when we come in actually have conversation like this other people say I noticed that too and then oh I noticed as well I notice that I noticed that any become infectious That's why they want to control all sides of it because they cannot have people whatever Freak thinking you have they want to give it to you Yeah, yeah You can't you could have this idea longer pick pick pick from it. No picking the idea you won't from this table Yes, I don't want one those ideas is like oh no if you got a picture one of these only one of them yes

Just so quickly, let's go through these clips. But I want to show how ingrained the government is in these organizations to the point it makes me think... These are government organizations with private out-facing representation Let's say you were trying to staff a social media site. Who would you hire? Well, obviously since it is tech business, you would hire tech people—coders and software engineers—to keep the place running. Then you'd hire an administrative staff because you had two lawyers, a caterer or a flack or 2 maybe an interior decorator if you wanted HQ to look good But how many spies would you hire? Probably none! Spies have nothing to do with the mission of a social media company They wouldn't be needed And you wouldn't hire any opera singers either

Yet, for some reason Twitter seemed to need an awful lot of spies. The upper ranks of Twitter we now know were absolutely loaded with people who once did intel work for government agencies—at least 15 of these people and possibly many more. Most of them were hired in the wake of Donald Trump's election. Now what were these people doing all day at what was supposedly a social media company? Well that's the question isn't it? Uh-huh. Load it! Load it, load it up. All right, clip two. We know that James Baker came from the FBI and has been accused of secretly censoring incriminating internal files before Elon Musk could release them to the public. Baker was fired for that so that's some of what James Baker was doing at Twitter but how about Charles Smith of Twitter's trust and safety department? Smith joined twitter after working at US Cyber Command hmm or how about Jeff Tokadger formerly director of Naval Counterintelligence what was he doing

Or Kevin Michalina, or Doug Hunt. Or Mark Jaruzelski, or Douglas Turner, Karen Walsh, Russell Handarv, Vincent Lucera All of these people once worked for the FBI as well Their colleague Jeff Carlton came from the CIA Patrick Conlin once worked at the NSA And so on... and it wasn't just American intel officers who found a home at Twitter The company hired foreign spies too In January, Peter Zatko was fired from his position as Twitter's head of security. Reportedly, Zatko lost his job because he complained about the level of control that foreign intelligence agencies had over virtually all of Twitter's operations. According to Zatko there were operatives on Twitter payroll from other governments including China and India and they had access to private user data And those are just the details we know about Yeah it is called capture of course but this wasn't even captured They were there from the beginning It is very much like

The big pharma and the FDA. So Scott Gottlieb, who was on CNBC all the time as an analyst he speaks about vaccines mainly He was administrator at the FDA and he left and became... he's on a board of Pfizer You know the government owns your data they own everything and they can do whatever they want with it. This is not our Organization with a few governmental, you know appoint a former government Appointees in it no this is a government organization period in in this story. This is how I see it There's a kid can't be any other way It is They all are

And anybody didn't and then oh who we get to fix it the brain chip guy. Yeah, the music's monkeys. Yes Well this is a rocket man use This is the problem and I laid it out for Joe Rogan And he kind of looked at me like said dude Elon Musk works for the government, and it's not a secret that every you know my favorite was It was You know, and this was a great way to do it. Starlink! I love Starlink. Starlink is great. You know? Starlink... But you know that would never be profitable just for consumers No! So he had to put everything into Ukraine and then say well, you know in Ukraine you're using it for offensive It was supposed only be defensive so I'm gonna turn it off but he didn't turn it off

No, he just he just opened up the true the true company which is called I think it's called star shield Mm-hmm. It's the same technology only the Ukrainian government has to pay for it for military purposes So of course you see the way the same exact thing like we create something that does government and Create it exactly open enough for the public to use. Yep, and do you think you have a private corporation? No, you think that would give us Zuckerberg that much power come on think about it look at the guy He's back to Tucker Elon Musk was asked recently how many former FBI agents are currently employed by Twitter But he wouldn't say It's all pretty weird

Could it be that while the rest of us imagined that Twitter was a social media site, a place to vent about politics and sports and the Kardashians. Could it be that Twitter was actually maybe primarily a propaganda tool? An intelligence gathering apparatus for a variety of intel agencies well yes That's possible And you can see why various governments would want access to the information that twitter had Keep in mind that Twitter's direct message DM feature functioned for many years as a kind of private text app for some of the world's most prominent people. So if you wanted to know what high government officials really thought, or if you want to know what well-informed sources were telling reporters off the record, you would want to see those messages. Did Twitter executives ever share those DMs—those private messages with anyone outside the company without a warrant?

We strongly suspect that they did. Oh, please! They don't have to because the FBI could just look at it themselves and have their portal can get right in my favorite is Gmail go look at the terms and service of Gmail right there says we read your email you know to help you um and it's amazing how many uh even the intelligence agencies use gmail they all use gmail But the biggest psyop is we know we don't have privacy. Hello It wasn't that the whole thing with the what was it the Patriot Act and yeah all the spying No more freedom. Yeah now we're arguing over to freedom is non-existent in the first place What are we doing here? It's like That's exactly right then that and that was a warning about the Patriot Act it was written before You know, I was written two weeks before got passed. It was already written Now its were it were frogs

In the boiling pot. Well, not you and I we're of course right we're in the sauna over there hanging out with our Cristal. I like water hot water You make me laugh again. Stop, stop! I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Is that... was it 32? Yeah we got... no 30... here's the last one this is the last Tucker clip. The proof of course resides on Twitter servers along with a lot else think about it if Twitter has been functioning as an arm of government intel agencies and clearly it has been Then its internal documents will contain information about all kinds of things. Not just about the silencing of Donald Trump, not just about Tony Fauci's buffoonish lies about the COVID shot—no! Information about big history-shaping events—the sabotage of Nord Stream 2 for example and the supposed poison gas attacks in Syria—both of them

the imprisonment of Julian Assange. Why is he there? The theft of incriminating emails from the DNC, what was that story? The motive behind the Russian invasion of Ukraine and much much more in other words Elon Musk now has control over most significant trove secret information ever to reside in private hands so far we have not seen much a bit and you have to wonder why we haven't let's hope that we do Yeah, Dreamon. One last personal experience I know Elon Musk. I met him we had the same investors in mid-2000s completely unimpressive man not impressive at all he doesn't even write most of his tweets i guarantee you he's not writing that He is a complete cutout

Before we go to the next donation segment, I just want to bring up one point. Remember what they said about the record of sex? We didn't even know those guys had phones! We didn't even know their names! It's the same way on that in that arena That there is a level above these guys Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are people who don't know their names But that day they signed the artists like, you know They sign Ilana and Zuckerberg up. I know someone in a perform great. I know some of them. I mean look at the money It's John Doar at Kleiner Perkins its Roland Roland Bouta also South African who runs Sequoia capital and they have masters to

The same guys who pumped in hundreds of millions of dollars into FTX, the smartest investors in the world mind you. They invested everything oh they're so smart they didn't do any diligence there were in fact they were blown away that Sam Bankman-Fried was playing video games during the pitch meeting now I mean that thing oh man and that's gonna go straight to Stanford University one of these days some of it will come out we'll figure some of it out probably not all of it But it is a, as George Carlin said... It's the big club. It's the big club and you're not in it! Exactly. Exactly. However- Well one club you can be in. Yes exactly! Is the Mo Fax & Adam Curry Club! I like brand new money. I just don't want any money around me that's not

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And you put the most in you can that's all we ask for it doesn't have to be a huge number as long As it is what you feel the show is worth to you Go to mo facts.com find our donation page or go directly to at Mo fund me calm and support us for episode 91 Adam Curry along here with no fax So we have two more pieces of information to go through before we wrap up one being news benders Have you heard this or seen this? It's a BBC. I think like 1970s it was uh, it was fictitious but But very accurate no so kind of satirical

Yes, okay. Well maybe when I hear it but The name sounds kind of familiar But I'd love to hear it to get refresh quick quick oversight just so what people know what's going on here This is kind of how a agent would get brought in and looped into the The powers that be like they've been kept her eye on you They like the work you're doing and then they let you come in, you know And access another realm of power. This is kind of like the introduction in the club we're not in okay So I thought this was great. You can stop it as you please I think so many clips are a little longer so you could stop me clip if you'd like If anything you find interesting, but let's go ahead and jump it off with number 34

Are you surprised we got you to come here, Mr. Larkin? Well I couldn't see what the CWNS would want of me Still can't Do you know anything about us? Oh, I heard one or two things when I was working for the BBC What did you hear? The CWNS set up midway between the government and TV companies Anytime the newsreel boys put out stuff on security classification wars weapons political leaks they get their film through this office What do we know about you Larkin. Robert Santel? Yes, it's a family name Good family Good education But you turned your back on all that, didn't you? Tried little bit of everything Six years ago there were those shows you did on alcoholism Blood sports Slum clearance People called you bright Very bright

There were other words they used. Hard-hitting, vital? Now you do only four shows a year. Critics call them brilliant, they're high in the ratings and they're... well, they're souffles. A little soft in the center don't think I'm complaining Oh! You can complain if you want to Just call it's a friendly professional interest. I'd like to know what happened to alcoholism and blood sports Call it reaching the age of 35. Call it school fees to fix the dresses, call it joining establishment, call it being a socialist for 15 years in a country that will never be socialist." Good! I don't think I've heard these before... Okay so just for people with this, just to catch him up speed he's basically on an interview without knowing

the one gentleman, you know has all his background information and he's saying basically that you know used to make these hard-hitting pieces which makes me think of Tucker now. Right? Soufflé. Yeah like... Yeah exactly! Used to make these hard hitting pieces and all of a sudden now it's souffles and like what happened? And he's like two kids and joining establishment. Like this is the I think this is more powerful than money. Is the access and I spoke about this before on the show, it's when I was separated from my company a bit of your occupation is tied into your identity or large part you know so when you get divorced from that it's kind of like who am I? And I think a lot of people don't want to reinvent themselves So I just wanted to break down what's going on here because there might be like

Little no hard to understand what's going on in the beginning, but that's you know That's their setup so we can get more into it now with 35. What do you want? We want people with low-power quotients We want them to work for us Nothing more sinister than that all this just offer me a job special sort of job I The newspapers talk about the corridors of power, the power elite. Let's just say we'd like you to join the club. There is a vacancy in our newsreel department We would like you to help plan the news for 1973 Come again? Plan the news for 1973 What are you doing I just want to make sure that sunlight is real I always tell people

News is the most highly developed form of literature. The most difficult. Make the news for 1973, please! Yeah they're planning the news for years to come which I think in some ways it's done for us now Yeah, you kind of can predict what I mean we do it with this show. This is why you say You're from the future, you know And had to do goggles and things that nature if you watch news enough You can kind of tell what's gonna be next right? It's not a superpower I don't think not there, you know diminish it but have the same thing as its Patterns yeah, you can just wait for it. You can just wait for it You know what's coming and whatever was successful they'll do it again

And that's the that's the beauty of it, you know in a sinister way is they just feed you more what you like It's kind of like your suggestion On your social media. Is that all? You liked that kind of video Let me get 10 more like it not kind of like exactly like okay Want to move on Let's play Which one let's play one more I got 36 37 38 which one should I played you know, which one is? Let's just jump down. I'll wait at the 39 to the to there today last one Okay here we go. Yeah, well, I won't buy it You must admit that has to be some kind of control in this world about hmm And remember that 1 quarter of the world is starving There are the full bellies and the empty bellies

Some of the empty bellies carry rifles. Well, we full-bellies are getting a bit flabby and not very good with rifles anymore so we've devised two ways to keep the empty bellies under control One is this fictitious hydrogen bomb that I talked about The other one is money Enough money to fill some of the empty bellies And put a hopeful smile on the faces of others A great wall of money all around Britain! It's no secret that the British economy is in trouble at the moment So we have to put that right too, to stay alive. We have to control the people in this country. Scare an ostrich and buries its head in the sand. You scare a hedgehog it rolls itself up into a ball when a woman's frightened she goes out buys herself a hat. You mean you scare us so that will buy more? So that money moves quicker production moves up? We don't say scare when we talk about human beings we say threaten them emotionally

And there are all sorts of ways, not just the big ones like the hydrogen bomb. Overcrowd them a little with bad plannings sell them too many motor cars anything to keep them a little bit removed from reality Nowadays people don't work for money they work for the idea of money They don't even love for love They love for the idea of lovers They only hate for the idea of hate. Wow, this is the OG limited hangout right here That's great I had you know people have emailed me about this I don't think if ever watched it fully so it was good to hear this But yeah People told me you gotta watch this and now I get it totally And isn't fascinating two things that he talked about well three things He said they're full bellies and empty bellies which food is a big thing now story yep nuclear war yep

And inflation and financial uncertainty. Yeah, it's the trifecta right there! And they use their work before let's just run it back... And by the way we also have a way to profit off of that ourselves is called Big Pharma here's a pill We got a pill for everything? You too anxious? Oh, we got something for the depressed. By the way... Are you overweight or are you obese because of the shit your eating? Don't worry! We have Ozempic I'm waiting for the nuclear pill Will it protect you from the nuke? Yeah Nice

Well, that's what Alex Jones has it already iodine pills. So no but they gotta have They got to have a big former version of it like a new fax or something It'll protect you from the fallout mm-hmm well speaking appeals this last three clips right here is hopefully because we I Always prided myself on not leaving people in despair No and this is courtesy of eClass He sent me these cassette eclipse and I just want to say The last scheduled date we had to record this show, we didn't go through with it. Was the 8th I think? Right and that was a day a lot of my friends and former colleagues were laid off from our former place in employment. Were these even if i understand rightly people who had refused to take the VACs were invited back

to the company and then were let go because they chopped jobs? Yes. That's crazy! Which, remember the chip shortage now there is a chip glut so I mean just to show you how going from the previous clips... Well it was it was the chips act that got two trillion dollars or some crazy amount like that right but we can't keep people employed make that make sense yeah whoops Yeah, so with that said This is how you control your own power your own security. This is Earl Nightingale Courtesy of my man a class and I told him when he sent me this clip I was like you made the show Let's go ahead and run through these cuz I think these would be very helpful It's its own point on topic about what Crowder Was going through maybe maybe he doesn't want to go work for anybody else. I can relate

Is a certain security and in working for yourself So let's go ahead and go through these right quick, and then we can wrap up the show We are what we think about our minds Our thinking controls our destinies here on earth to a degree totally unsuspected by the great majority of people When you think about at the moment it becomes so obvious. So clear and simple I Well then, if we become what we think about and if we can control our minds We can pretty well tell our own future. And that's the point I want to make That's what I meant when I said earlier that each one of us is the architect of the structure fashioned by our years

This means that if we're confused about what we wish to become or accomplish, our lives and environment will mirror that confusion. It also means that if we know what it is we seek—that it will—it must be accomplished! Barring an act of God or a catastrophe over which we have no control, we as individuals can call our own shots for the rest of our lives. We can know what it means to go through life from one success to another, to play life according to the rules and reap the rewards We can know what it means to have peace of mind and live calm cheerful successful lives You are at this moment the sum total of your thoughts to this point for there is nothing else you can be This is a very famous radio guy Earl Nightingale. Very very famous Yeah, he's in thousands of programs and the one that changed my life was The Strangest Secret you need to go listen to if you haven't And as I said we're

We're a product of our thoughts. Now, hopefully people understand why the media is so important for population control for mind control because they get you in the morning I told you my old phone would feed me news stories and my alarm clock. The alarm clock will go off and like these are the stories you need to think about for today basically And it was, if I allowed it, it would shape my day. Which I didn't but I just found it fascinating that from your wake of your sleep...

Yeah, they they have you tapped in and then it's just a 24-hour cycle of feeding you things to be reactive To and like you said with the frogs the frog what reacts to the water For over a year my wife Tina and I we have changed our morning routine because of course is very easy to certainly for me to start right away with, oh what's going on? Let me see what's happening. What was the news? What happened overnight? We start by first saying good morning to Holy Spirit then we read some scripture

And I gotta tell you, you know. I'll read like a devotional and like okay Let me see where that comes from and I'm just gonna read that piece and man It puts me in the right mood then I can I can tackle any of it You're so right doing that from the minute you get up getting jacked in I mean, it's there you go 100% matrix That that's what they want but the Matrix is real. It's not its the depiction was science fiction But it really is real and the best way to protect yourself is to not connect or connect with caution. Correct Decide to become a professional at your business You see we can either compete Or create if we compete with all the other people in our line of work We must be willing to accept the same rewards If that's what we want fine

But if we want to become professionals at what we do, then we must create. And when we begin to do this there's no limit to that which we can achieve We hear a lot these days about a word called security Everyone wants security but not one in ten can tell you what it is Most people will tell you that security rests with the job This is impossible There is no such thing as a job that represents security Anyone with a job can lose it for any one of 1,000 reasons at any time. There is only one place on earth you can find security and if it isn't there It isn't anywhere its inside of a person God this guy's so good I love that voice Security comes from within and Me you having conversation. I was like, oh no don't do you know saying like is

It's starting over you know it is a scary thought and you want to go back to what is secure But it only confirmed the fact that what you consider is secure isn't is smoking mirrors You lived in that, you lived it yourself personally. Right Because if I would have either kowtowed or no didn't strike out when I did then I was still be at this very point one year later almost to the date. I Would have been the same as that position Yeah, it would have been a lot lot less it would have been shittier right much No, that's true That is true So here's the last and final clip but I'm saying this is for all people out there

Do what you love to do be proactive my suggestion practice the seven habits And the first one is be proactive because we all have a talent. We all have a skill You just had to believe in yourself and it's not mumbo-jumbo, but you have to get your mind set on that thought now because before that year ago came I It was many, many years before that the thought of I need to be doing something else. But just figuring out what it was so we can get into the last clip now there is only one place on earth you can find security and if it isn't there it isn't anywhere its inside a person

Never outside. If a man has security inside where it belongs, his wife and children can feel it when he sits down to eat with them and they're warmed by it. If the man has security inside where it belongs you can see him walking down the street and you can feel it when he enters a room that's security and you can't take it away from him You can take away his money, his home everything but her wife who is willing to start over most of them are And drop him anywhere in the country Go back in a year and he'll be doing just as well as when you found him the first time. You can't keep a good man down no matter what you do to him, like cream on milk. You can shake it all day but just set it down for awhile and it will bounce right to the top again. This man or this woman has security where it belongs. And do you know where it comes from?

It comes from doing what we do for a living surpassingly well. It comes from being a pro in a world of amateurs." Yes, exactly! A pro in the world of amateurs... So that's my show Hopefully you enjoyed it and was just a quick examination of What controls our thoughts and how to take control back from... Oh man, that was good. Yeah hold on I just want to say thank you E-Class! I love that it turned everything around and we will keep our eye on the Crowder situation have a little bit of internal insight

But you know never a boring moment, that's for sure. Moe I appreciate this man as always you've done it I'm so happy that we took the extra time and then You know the time was robbed and were back And here we are another mo facts in the can another one done and as I always say Pay attention to everything and then true reveal itself will talk to you soon Moe talk to later out Young man single and free In love with a young trainee Oh, you're gonna want it I need it Gonna put in the water of youth I find myself lost and all alone A man is playing the field The thrill he's got She says he's with the boys Tells me he'd tell you what to do

Girls and me is gonna put it in the warning Somebody ready? I spend my nights alone crying bitter tears Although, I cry a lot Nobody really will not need him most He's never by my side Sleep, I'm going to the interview Gonna put in the warning I need somebody new Gonna put in the warning

about it. It's been done, and Lex is a young trainee. Oh! Perfume on in two. Tells me I'm going to the interview.

Please somebody rescue me!