54: Lemonhead Delight

00:00 You're the real dog police, get your gun out of my hand! Get your gun out of my hand! That's the best part about this work. No fucking shit got to you! Mo Facts with Adam Curry for November 21st 2020 This is episode number 54 and I am Adam Curry in Austin Texas looking for that silky smooth voice The dulcet tones of the man known as Mo Mo Mo Mo Facts Hello Mo How you doing, Adam? I thought I lost you there already. I'm doing good man! Yeah yeah it's good to hear your voice Good to hear yours as well we've been down a rabbit hole but um... Well... Finally resurfaced The rabbit hole known as the United States election was probably where you- I mean i got a pretty good feeling what hole you were down

00:50 But man, the only hole. Yes. The only hole at this moment and I'll just say so apologies for taking a little bit longer than usual to put out another episode But there was a lot going on and not a lot to find initially as we were just... Moe was even texting me about looking for some numbers, certain groups who may or may not have voted in certain numbers. I knew it was gonna take awhile and quite honestly, I think we got enough entertainment in the meantime just from the M5M from the media doing crazy stuff so it kind of flew by for me how about you? It was the same for me You saw a bunch of shenanigans

01:32 and little information. So if we don't have the clips or the facts, we can't present them in this show so it was this buffering of information where I still haven't found... The numbers that you're referring to is the numbers i've been watching all along as the black voter turnout nationally now we see some number state a couple of state numbers but So I guess, I got a full bag. I got super full bags. The bag is full! Yeah everybody okay he's got his bag all full ready to go what's the topic for today we've spinned the wheel who it knows nobody knows except for Moe because he's got right there in the back the topic for episode number 54 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry is... It's an election like no other Well yeah

02:19 Like no other. Absolutely! Yeah, we're gonna talk about the election but we're not going to talk about hammers and machines... Hey hey hey what's wrong with hammering scorecard and the crackin? Nothing's wrong with that, but as you know we like to talk about different things or the same thing in a different from a different perspective. Yes and in fact I am very excited about today's episode because this is something that this isn't analysis I believe you well you certainly haven't gotten from the mainstream and I don't think many alternative or let's just call it free speaking podcasts have or any kind of alternative media will have analyzed very well

03:03 So that's how I got fixated on one situation and you know, the over-encompassing is the election rigged or is it not rigged? Who voted so I took a step back as I like to do and look and say what's going on here. I guess we can jump right in the first clip. And this is just to set it up, this is Obama and it's a super cut and how important this election is compared to all the others since 2008? This is certainly the most important election of my lifetime. I truly believe that this is the most important election of our lifetimes. This is probably the most important election of our lifetimes

03:56 You get to vote in what I believe will be the most important. election of our lifetimes. I know politicians always say that, but this time it's really true. One week until the most important election of our lifetime! Let me guess was this Obama 2008 2012 2016 2018 2020 every single election yes yes Every single one and i knows the tale of his He'll say I know politicians like to say right that's he did this exact same thing with the arm With the water in Flint, right? And then the second time is like This is not a prop or this. No, I know how politicians like to do props like this and he so he's self-aware that he's coming across disingenuously But he continues to do it just says it out loud and no one questions if that's what so

05:00 It's kind of a CIA tactic actually if you look at their handbook. Let's just leave that for what it is A limited hangout! Yes, exactly In a way it's like I'm gonna give you a little truth yeah and it is the political tactic but not me dude I'm not using it that way so now that we put that out there this is not me exactly right So we set up... That sets up the election and then election night comes and it goes and the whole M5M calls it. Which we've allowed the media to do for the past, well in my entire lifetime and it's based upon their numbers and their modeling and the polls and they've got all these complicated things to figure out so that they can call even though the votes aren't in but it started kind of weird this... In fact I think I texted you and said yo Mo

05:57 How can Biden win in Virginia where you live with 0% of the votes in? And then the numbers showed, and then when it got to about 50%, Trump was in the lead. And they had already still called it for Virginia so I knew going in that we probably wouldn't have a winner, clear winner that night but I stayed up and watched the whole thing play out. I mean I was up till 4 o'clock in the morning and saw all of these shenanigans unfold. I actually took the next day off because I normally do that before election because and watch, you know. I mean it's kind of a big deal for me because i look at the election like the Super Bowl. Oh yeah definitely! Even after the game is over you stay up and watch all the talking heads give their perspectives in this and you get a lot of real emotions Yeah when people are tired in the middle of the night absolutely that's a great time to be watching Right so

06:58 Let's just get into this. The media calls it the Fox News decision desk can now project that former Vice President Joe Biden will win Pennsylvania and Nevada putting him over the 270 electoral votes he needs to become the 46th president of the United States After four long tense days, we've reached a historic moment in this election. We have an announcement to make. We can now project the winner of the presidential race Joe Biden is president elect CNN projects Joseph R. Biden Jr is elected the 46th President of The United States winning The White House

07:38 and denying President Trump a second term. The president-elect in the United States, Joe Biden has run for president three times and the third time has turned out to be the charm not only the charm but possibly the most consequential election of our lifetime. NBC News live projection that Joe Biden has won the Keystone State Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral votes And through all these experiences he became a man of uncommon empathy A man of great resilience, a man of simple decency. Character traits that he will now bring to the office of the President of the United States elected at the age of 77 The oldest man ever elected president Keep in mind that Trump campaign is in the midst of waging legal challenges In several states but the path is clear for the new president-elect The biggest important lesson from this election Is that 2016 was not an outlier

08:34 This is essentially the 2016 election with the Gary Johnson vote going to Joe Biden. And here we are." I hadn't heard that one from Chuck, haha! That's funny. And Hillary didn't actually lose. No of course not. What he was saying... Yeah exactly. That what that last statement was so let's break down-that was a lot of information So lets start from the beginning The first clip in this supercut Was from Fox who started first with the Arizona call of if I recall Exactly Fox is leading out and Fox is in trouble. I'm gonna say that now, I think they thought they could just say whatever They said that the Trump MAGA people were gonna just eat it up Mm-hmm But it's a rebellion Oh yeah And its going to Newsmax Everyone's moving to Newsmax

09:31 Yeah, and it's so bad. I get a lot of my information from YouTube and for like three or four consecutive videos they had to turn the comments off. And they were... People because the comments were blowing up? This was Fox News clips is what people are commenting on Yes, any clip that was negative or wishy-washy about 45 Savage the folks wasn't having it. There would be twice as many down votes as it was up votes and they had to turn the comments off so Fox is definitely in trouble you heard the meme In Our Lifetimes Joe's here to save us he's the oldest president and he got the most amount of votes ever even more than Obama

10:21 That just doesn't sit well with me, but it is what it is. For now? And then all the... Yeah for now! What I mean by that is it is what it is currently. Yes We have to see how it plays out But it was rather incredible, yes, rather unbelievable the amount of votes that were cast in general and then the amount that Joe Biden got That was quite remarkable Outlier. Yes, a remarkable outlier. Be careful what we're saying an outlier yeah so simple couple of things they did when they were just oh man they were all over Joe's simple decency uncommon empathy it's like what he's a uniter he's a uniter Yeah and the final takeaway is shut up slave the path is clear

11:16 That was the whole thing. We've called it, and it is what it is. I find that very troubling. Well again Moe this is the American people who A don't even have an understanding of civics for this is a look we've just papered not to go any too deep but we've papered over the whole process. The pro- we're not actually voting for the president you're voting for the electoral votes for the Electoral College and the vote that then can or cannot be cast by the electoral college. This was all put into place actually as a safeguard in case something crazy went down so the electoral college can still change the outcome of this

11:58 But that's not a great TV show. We need our elections to end around 1130, you know it's kind of like New Year's Eve at midnight you know we have to really be getting ready to celebrate and then the coverage can go on until around 1 or 130. It's been TV elections ever since I've been on this earth and the fact is that's all been done before the actual outcome of the election is known which is not really until December 14th And to be honest with you, the M5M were caught flat-footed because they didn't know how to fill that void up between Wednesday till the fourth day. I think it was Saturday when they called it. They didn't know what to say! It's like well we're still counting and I'm like

12:47 Like you said, you normally call us by 11 p.m., we've seen where it has gone in 2016 and went over to 2 a.m.. But eventually it was like, we have enough information to make a decision so this dragging out the process didn't sit well with me and I have to be honest with people. Wait a minute... Hold on a second if your going to be honest does that mean we got to go into... hold on let me get the door Thank you. Okay, it's just us now. All right, it's just us. I Adam so I struggle with the results of this election not not the outcome of who won or who didn't win but this never-ending counting The only thing I can equate it to is the feeling I had during 9 11 Oh

13:43 So that something was off. Let me explain it mm-hmm my eyes saw what my eyes saw Right, but then the story is telling me something different yeah, and that is very unhealthy It's gonna be honest with you Yeah, it can mess with you and I think smart people have this problem like ah oh What is going on? Okay, I got you. Hold on let's open this up. It's hot in here. Can you keep yeah? Yes For a few days I struggle with this thing and I really couldn't I didn't know what to think and

14:27 I'm used to it, you know. I'm kind of a day walker in the sense where i can take in mainstream media and not be affected by but they have an effect on me. Of course! And not only me Yeah, Donald Lemon and we're gonna call Don Lemon from now on. He's gonna be tagged with the name Donald. Oh boy! That's that's oh my goodness what an insult for him. Donald J Lemon here we go. Immediately my thoughts went back to these protests that happened this summer And when I saw and heard what was happening today

15:05 All I could think of was how could we not have expected that if Joe Biden became the president-elect of the United States, that the streets would not erupt after what had happened and Have I ever had to deal with the crap that I've had to deal with over the last four years? It is disgusting and so just over the last months, last couple of months we have had all of that. And over the past few nights

15:53 we have been saying, we're gonna give you some information. We don't know who's gonna win and they are yelling at us please please call this we are sick of it we cannot take much more. And so when the call finally came and I saw my colleagues and i love all of them and everybody around they're all talking about what about this and who's this and they were you know put Democrats didn't do this never got that's not what America wanted America needed a release valve at that moment. And they wanted to get it off their chest project much Don Lemon Wow I didn't hear that people needed us yeah that's right he had to put his cape on

16:35 Yeah. Super Don the people needed us they needed us to be a release valve and free them from this struggle, the self importance these people have that all we just had to free the people and then I had to clean up the COVID mess that's what he was doing as well saying you had to expect people were gonna go out in the streets. No matter what the outcome of COVID is and that's another thing it's like, COVID goes away then it comes back and we're going to talk about COVID but nothing really changed since last time we talked about it. Did you get the impression that the release that valves that opened up there was really that many people? I mean seem like

17:19 Some city blocks were filled up here and there, but it didn't feel like it was a whole... It didn't feel like when Obama won. Let me put it that way. Oh no! It was manufactured. It was actual turf. Normally you see these things and they'll bubble over into the smaller cities in these little satellite rallies You saw none of that especially for the crowd that likes to go out onto the streets This is high level analysis of who goes out in the streets but it's Democrats normally. They're quick to go to the streets and protest or celebrate, rip down some statues... Right! And you didn't see that? You didn't see the smaller cities have these...? No that's my point I just wanted confirmation because to me it looked small really

18:13 After Obama won, yeah the garbage collectors the next day were whistling and waving at everybody. And these guys are always sour and grouchy and it was like a happy day for America. And I think that was the effect of the four-day dragging out of it that people just kind of... We're goldfish! Let's just be honest here. Four days to keep interest? It was on to something else I gotta ask you, just was that by design? So you didn't get this big outpouring and it's like oh yeah we won kind of slide it under the rug or was there a mistake to wait four days. Okay I have no evidence of this but just my feeling was that in general people knew what you knew what you felt that 9-11 feeling like okay hmmm...I think

19:11 I believe most people felt that regardless of their belief or their party or their candidate. I think everyone was like, well okay you know kind of like Todd just won't look it's good maybe that million dollars will still be in the bank account tomorrow when i look again right? It's still not over and I think that's where people...I mean it was a very ceremonial calling but in a lot of people minds It's not over on both sides one side being they think they won, but they're not sure of it Yeah exactly don't want to brag too quickly and then the other side holding out hope That some kind of path can be created or some kind of evidence could be found that could change What the media is calling but still hasn't been called an officially And another data point there is you don't really see current senators or

20:09 elected officials, you don't really see them clamoring around the Biden-Harris camp to be in the cabinet. There's names being mentioned but no one is really out there on TV getting a profile so that they... You just see this every single election and then you see people who want to be Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense and they're on talk shows, they're on Sunday shows. You do not see much of that if at all. The only people who have come out are unhappy Democrats such as Sandy Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up because the Democrats look kind of desperate when they went around calling world leaders to say oh we talked to world leaders it's like yeah you called them so the lack of confidence is another data point for me if you want you won i will be talking big stuff right now if I knew

21:07 a solid win, but I don't feel that energy coming from Democrats. Yeah we're in agreement on that Let's get back to Donald Lemon and he continues to be emotional It was like a third world country people who have been oppressed finally the relief came that no longer did we have to live under this oppression No longer do we have to live under people who are pretending that up is not up and down is not down. That one plus one doesn't equal two, and so I can't help but be emotional at this moment. I'm not quite sure what I'm going to say, so forgive me.

21:52 I am very emotional and guess what? I'm speaking for everyone, but i gotta tell you. When I watched that black woman come out on stage tonight And I saw all of those people from all ages and all different backgrounds The whole entire theme was Everyone is welcome under this tent Don Keem to keep it real on the racial tip Yeah It's over though, but he said racism is over. Yeah the oppression is over systemic racism it all over which... It only lasted four years Moe! It was just a short period of racism in America and its just-it's all over now. Its good

22:32 Well, it was more like six years because it ended in 2008 and then it came back in 2014. The last two years of the Obama and then it continued yeah so we've been in a Six-year racism. That's right racism yep It's over. We're post-racial now, according to Don. Welcome to our world, Don! We've been this way for a long time Right and then he had the bow down to the black woman, the political black woman but I find it funny and all we have to go back to this throwback clip Hold on a second hold on a second I gotta write that down politically black that's a great term

23:19 You what are you I'm politically black. Okay, thanks. That's a good one Yeah, right now one down and I like that a lot so this is a throwback clip This is for show 18 she wrote a hero this was about Kamala Harris and when she went away Only to come back and this is Don Lemon making the argument that she's not black black What do you make of her answer? Good for her. You know, let's there's a lot to unpack here number one what does black enough mean can someone give me a definition of what black is enough is I don't want to go down the road of the stereotype when people say we're black number one she is a black woman she's a mixed race woman when you see her you see her Blackness but she is also South Asian her mom is South Asian and her dad is Jamaican April listen more power to her

24:10 And I think that's great. That should be enough Listen, it is enough that she's a black woman. We are not a model No no no I think you're not what people are saying the people who are saying is she blacking up? That's bold that's BS But to want a distinction to say if she African American Or is she black or she whatever then which there is nothing wrong with that There is a difference between being african-american and being black People, latino people are people of color. But they're not black They're brown people She is a woman of color but she is a black woman Okay that's why I agree with that I agree with that but Is she African American? No no no no no no! But if she African American there's a difference There's nothing wrong with that No one is trying to take anything away from her So let go down into her lineage Let me tell you If you want to fall into her lineage All she had to do was say I am black but I'm not African American I'm a Black man You Idiot

25:12 Wow. So that was Don Lemon talking to April Ryan, a high member of the Coven. He had a big mouth then! He had a big one. He was very disrespectful and you hear the change so he got that call like fix it Don! You better fix it! Get back on the reservation here Donald. That's why Donald had a total different tone when he spoke about Kamala after that point. He admitted to it, that he got the call from Oprah in one of our previous shows. So now there was one... He didn't admit it! He bragged about it while talking to Oprah. Oh yeah and I don't want to give it away this way so I don't wanna give it away but then he gives it away.

26:02 Next up we have Simone Sanders who's a senior advisor to Joe Biden and she is talking with Jake Tapper. And I want to notice how easily, and i'm glad you pointed out politically black How easily can you slide Anna out of being politically black? Yes. Congratulations on this victory. Hard fought, long fought I have to ask you about this moment from Vice President-elect Kamala Harris last night take a listen While i may be the first woman in this office...I will not be the last Tens of millions of women and women of color voted for this ticket if you could just take off your

26:48 Politico hat for one second. I just want to ask you, as a black woman what does this moment mean for you? Well, thanks for having me this morning Jake last night was historic and it was just truly remarkable You know as vice president-elect Harris said in her speech last night you know the audacity the boldness of President elect Joe Biden to choose her as his running mate to help break a glass ceiling that has had many cracks but has never yet been shattered. So it's truly amazing, I've had the opportunity to travel with both President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Senator Harris and I am just in awe of both of them. And I can tell you that the American people picked a good ticket!

27:36 Mm-hmm. Picked a good ticket! So you see how easily she slid off her political hat and put on her black, politically black woman hat? That was great alibi there. Is she into us actually just out of curiosity I believe so. And I want to say this about Simone, and really I think Simone's personality is so big she really could go by one name. She can really just be Simone. Simone with a Y yes well now she also ran Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016? Yes yeah i think it was 2016 Well let's get into that clip because you walked me right into it and then we'll talk about both on the back end of it Howard Dean

28:23 Howard Dean was there for that 50 state strategy, but here's the issue. Howard Dean is also on record maligning young people and millennials, telling those Bernie folks they just need to get in line and maligning Bernie Sanders. And that is not what we need, in my opinion. We don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now. The Democratic Party is diverse and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the highest levels from the vice chairs through the secretaries all the way down to the people working in the offices at the DNC I think we need to have a robust discussion about this And I think we need to hear more from all the candidates. Jamie Harrison of South Carolina, he's great too! He has done real party building but everybody doesn't necessarily know Jamie and they want to know what it is that he stands for so yeah i want to hear more from everybody. I'm here for the millennials and the brown folks

29:06 Oh, now she's brown. Now she's brown! Alright. She's politically brown. That was when she was back in 2016 campaigning for Bernie Sanders and she was a hired political black so her main focus was Brown people of color that kind of thing but when she was promoted up to senior advisor Now it's everybody. You know, it is big tent now Big Tent right? I have a political hat now don't have the politically black hat anymore So she switched hats and that's why Jake Tapper asked her to take it off Take it off for a sec will ya yeah Don't give me the politically the people of color coalition answer. I needed a black woman answer from you Simone Yeah

29:56 I like Simone. She reminds me of that sister, overachieving. She has a vivacious personality and she's the night sister used to come in and get her fade tightened up in the barbershop to talk about politics but As you see, when they get sucked into this political machine to move up you have to dilute your message. That's politics as every group that's possibly every quote-unquote democracy but that's why we had to keep these people in check because

30:34 shift gears and talk for this group, and then not for this group. You would think she's there on the black agenda if there was a official one. And you'd think she'll be talking to Joe Biden about that but no, she has been hired to win the election for Joe Biden so her first interest is Joe Biden, not the people But she says, I'm here for the brown people and the millennials. No you're not. And actually learned that this person who was really running the Biden campaign was not her. She...I think she's less of a campaign manager than we might think she is

31:11 Correct. That is correct, but you have to have good optics when you're trying to cater to the black woman political vote block that they have voting block that they have so they had to have good window dressings now this next clip is an example of Simone talking to Jake Tapper from one in the previous clip And this is how it goes from the brown people to everybody. I have to say, President Trump, to his credit he got his voters to the polls there too! He won more voters in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan than he did four years ago. He won millions more voters nationally obviously you want more but i guess my question is how did you rebuild The Blue Wall?

32:02 Did you get your voters in the urban centers to turn out? Was it winning over and switching suburban voters? Did you narrow the margins in rural areas? Strategically, how was it done? I think it was all of the above Jake. If you'll look at the numbers and I know there will be many pieces written about this over the next couple of days, that Biden coalition was yes suburban voters, it's black voters, it is Latino voters, it was Native American voters in places like Arizona for example we couldn't have won without the Latino vote but also couldn't have won without indigenous people let's be very clear It was working class folks from across the spectrum

32:41 Okay, working class everybody. Yeah So I would like to enter exhibit a and some Georgia turnout And this is from the New York Times article. I think I did post it on Twitter and now thank you add it to the Show notes. Yes sure yes, and this is uh the black share of the electoral electric falls in Georgia so they had 30% increase in registration, but the actual votes didn't match. That's why she couldn't answer the question because she doesn't know how they won if you come out of the election looking at the exit polls usually be able to tell who put you over

33:26 And he asked her a specific question, like which group was it? Was it the... and she's like oh it's all of the above. Now they've been telling us how important the black vote was for two years now is just all in the above. This is exactly what was missing I have not really heard any detailed analysis of the fabled black vote. I've heard some offhanded comments saying well you know because of the black vote Joe Biden won but there's-I've seen zero evidence of this And this New York Times article that I'm referring to kind of tells the opposite of what you just stated. You hear, oh well the black voter turnout was up but voter turnout in general was up looking just looking at the sheer numbers both candidates receive record amount of votes so naturally you will see a larger turn out but

34:17 Then they have this pesky little data point of twice as many black women voted for Trump this time around than they did last time. And I think it was up from like 15% black men to 20%. So that doesn't, it's a lot... Like I said, that's why this episode was so hard because there is no really hard data or it's just trickling out. It's just- Yeah now did you find any evidence that there was withholding of the black vote? That's why you can't tell that without the turnout number that we got from Varney. I think his name is Varney? Stu Varney Yeah, yeah That came out days after the 2016 election and I looked for that same poll to see if those people did that poll again Couldn't find it Anywhere Which when there's no data That gets my antennas going So You hear her go from

35:16 Well of course black vote and working people. And people with a job and a pulse, yes that's who voted And he wants to know how the heck did you do it? And I want to know the same thing, but I couldn't get an answer. So we'll leave that there and we'll revisit it once we get some hard numbers maybe on another episode because that's the key number I was watching for like last year or some change and we didn't get it. Next! It was time to call him The Wetworks And that's not the normal wet works I'm talking about. This is the crime! We need some criers out there, so this first crier is on CBS News Ant Juan Seawright and just to give a little bio about him he's off the Clybourne coaching tree and that's a sports term for you Adam just in case you... Hold on what was his name again? Ant Juan Seawright Okay That's with uh R right Yeah I got it

36:20 I mean WR. Okay, so he's off the Jim Klein-born coaching tree and that's a sports reference Adam So let me explain to you what i mean thank you for thank thank you for being so patronizing. I appreciate it No no no no cause play that I'm just kidding we all know I'm not sports playing team yeah We all know I'm not sports playing team Yeah really Sports shaming mate Right. So when you say coaching tree, that means one head coach has some guys under him your coordinators and they go off to be head coaches and then they hire guys and they go out to be head coaches so it goes back to the main person that got it all the tree started. And so it's kind of like a family tree but that's what he is on the gym Kleinborn tree

37:04 because he was a recipient of the Congress Congressman Jim Clyburn and Congressman John Spratt's Public Service Award. He is from South Carolina, and he brought the wet works. Lana it is so emotional for me because nobody knows what it took to get this point Nobody knows what it feels like as a black man To be able to speak in this moment And the country owes black people so much to get us here because if it wasn't for black voters in Wisconsin, Georgia and Michigan and Pennsylvania we would not be here. We would not be here."

37:59 excuse me, operative. He's an operative. Got you runs corporate and political campaigns and initiatives. This is sickening! Yeah he had numbers I mean he clearly knew that the black people had done this for Joe. That was his conviction. You got all emotional over it right? And then he says oh black people this country owes black people hello that's what we've been saying for the last year yeah And I didn't clip it because it was, I could just relate a message. Jim Clyburn was in a post-election interview and the reporter asked him so what is you? You brought Joe through what does your owe you? And Clyburn like he don't owe me nothing. I'm like bruh! What do you mean? He's like I owe him Jim. Yes

38:50 It's all right, I believe you. It makes total sense because the guy is a phony so obviously he is a phony and then he sends out his operative to cry it's like they couldn't have done it without us that's what we're saying it's called leverage uh you make your demands now after the fact this is the wait till after election this is the manifestation of wait until after the election. We've been good to you, Democratic Party now please give us something! And I see it from every group now they're all coming out they're all saying it and they're not in on the master plan clearly It's not going to be any goodies for anybody. It's a dark winter coming people

39:35 And she set him up, she was like... The reporter that was speaking before he started speaking. She's like it was so somber and reflective He went right into his triggers. Oh yeah leading the witness. You know what time is for Ant? Let's get those waterworks going! So we're talking about criers Van Jones said, hold my wine cooler. And let me show you how this is done. Van what are your thoughts? It's easier to be a parent this morning it's easier to be a dad it's easier it's easier to tell your kids character matters it matters telling the truth matters being a good person matters and it's easier for whole lot of people

40:32 If you're Muslim in this country, you don't have to worry if the president doesn't want you here. If you're an immigrant, you don't have to worry if the president's going to be happy to have babies snatched away or send dreamers back for no reason. This is vindication for a lot of people who really suffered Now, we of course played this on the No Agenda show and a lot of people are like he's acting. I said no! This man is not acting that is extreme an extremely emotional man who was emotional about anything except racism apparently. I have it I have answer to that so hold your horses on me okay let's just get into this clip who was missing? Black people black people

41:29 Muslims, immigrants. A more specific group of immigrants the dreamers and he's all choked up and you know the producer had to be in his ear like hey Van! Waterworks! No your forgetting the black people I don't even think that producer was thinking about that they were probably all mesmerized looking at him going You wanna bet? Play the next clip. I can't breathe, you know that wasn't just George Floyd, there's a lot of people who felt they couldn't breathe Every day you're waking up and getting these tweets and you just don't know And your going to the store and people who have been afraid to show their racism are getting nastier and nastier to ya and your worried about your kids and your worried about your sister

42:26 And can she just go to Walmart and get back into her car without somebody saying something to her? And you spent so much of your life energy, just trying to hold it together. This is a big deal for us just to be able to get some peace and have a chance for reset. The character of the country matters! Being a good man matters I just want my sons to look at this, it's easy to do it the cheap way and get away with stuff but it comes back around. It comes back around and is the good day for this country? I'm sorry for the people who lost if for them that's not a good day but for whole lot of people it's a good day." Yeah thats possible, thats possible that it went like down like that but I think during that first bit everyone was just oh this is perfect then maybe it was like

43:25 No, what I'm saying is as he listed off the Muslims the immigrants the dreamers Yeah The two clips are there's no time in between it. I know long pause And I think that's when they got me like Don If you watch CNN It's more scripted than you think. I think that may have been on the teleprompter, but that was not his initial reaction and maybe they got it mixed up in the teleprompter But regardless Moe he was really emotional That wasn't...I don't think that was acting No I believe We're on the same we're in agreement on that and I have proof! I have proof! You've got receipts

44:13 I always come with proof, but i just want to wrap up here so racism is over. You heard it from Donald Lemons and Van Jones he called them they said that they just want to have some peace even though we've heard for the last year no justice no peace. I haven't seen injustice anywhere! I didn't get an email with my justice in it but... We got peace now um yeah it's over okay So I'm gonna agree with agreement with you Adam that van is a emotional guy and I have proof of this as I found in his recent interview with Busta Rhymes So let's just go ahead listen to it clip How does all that open? We don't want get into all that knowledge itself stuff in the way. That shows up in this album and the whole journey, but You know your father

45:04 How do you manage it now because my dad same way my dad was tough. I'm not tough, right? I'm resilient I mean, you can't stop me. I'm gonna come back and go cry first. I will go cry first. My mom said, cry as much as you need to or as much as you have too but it was okay to cry around my mom. But dad didn't want any of that one tear and we're going to have something to cry about so but same thing once he saw it once I look at him eye-to-eye then you can see that I'm not gonna get run over by the world

45:40 He was able to relax. Right And he was able to have some pride But I can see now, that he was just terrified That I'm just going to get run over by everybody and be a victim Huh... Okay So he's kind of like John Boehner Remember John Boehner? No, what no famous Republican. I think he was senator Oh yeah He would always cry all the time okay? That's possible about that Yeah alright mama's boy makes sense so we got proof he's a crier But he says that his father didn't want him to be a victim and I think that's a real sentiment even with my son even with relationship to my dad and me like what which cry for something to cry about because You can't let people see you

46:26 affected and emotional. Now I'm not saying don't cry because go off by yourself, cry let it out but when you cry in front of people...I don't care what you say it makes people look at you differently if you just let it go in public. It can be a positive depending on the situation, but yeah it's always going... of course any kind of emotion anger severe anger or severe sadness same thing yeah any of that will will of course affect the way people look at you if they see it first. It's a mood swing! It's a form of a mood swing is just into the mood of sadness or melancholy or whatever you want to call it but what you really don't

47:06 expect though is now Van Jones is specifically a pundit but Donald, Donald J. Lemon I mean he's he says that he's a news guy it's on you know both of these are in these CNN cable news network and really none of this had anything to do with any objective news and I think that's where the most damage has done to the credibility of these channels exactly not only to the channels, to their talking heads. It's like come on Don you're getting emotional Van's crying this other guy Ant he was like oh man he gave now I gotta give Ant his props He gave Van a run for his money but Van is a pro! Van is like let me show you how to cry brother Let me just show you for a second hold yeah your right hold my wine cooler your so right exactly what it was

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1:01:33 Well, while the black and I put black in pips as I recently heard. I never heard this term in pips? Yeah, I heard Maya Angelou use it when she was talking to James Baldwin. And I just like that! I put in a pips... Black pundits That's weird because I immediately think of Gladys Knight. I don't know why is that odd. Because of the pips! I know but they understand why but how do you get air quotes from pips I don't know but it's just cool the way she said it so I thought all the users. Hereby adopted, that's good to go! So I put black and pips uh the pundits were bashful about saying who was responsible then was everyone oh but not Eva, Eva Longoria

1:02:21 Eva Longoria, she put it right out there who were the real heroes and heroines. Again our work is just beginning but I want to talk about what you just said about the women the women of color showed up in big ways of course you saw in Georgia with black women have done but Latina women were the real heroines here beating men in turnout in every state and voting for Biden-Harris at an average rate close to 3 to 1. And that wasn't surprising to us, you know Latinos are the CEOs of the households they make all the financial decisions and healthcare decisions and educational decisions many Latinas are small business owners and they wanted a plan for recovery um...for themselves not for Wall Street so Trump's policies were never aimed at the struggling Latina community and if you look

1:03:09 voter suppression on top of that. how Latinas showed up, even through the closing of polling places and the shutting down of drop-off sites and new voter ID laws and long lines and driving 30 miles. And all that. On top of that restrictions in safety protocols of a pandemic, that spirit and perseverance that Latinos use in their daily lives to struggle to pay their bills and they struggle to show up to their jobs and homeschool their kids and take care of their elders. That's the same perseverance and spirit they used to show up at polls I think there was such a vacuum of actual information that people were like Eva Longoria, who i've met. She's very nice actually and I've never heard her talk about like yes with such an emphasis

1:03:53 I think people literally got sucked into the vacuum and brought in to fill it up, and you know it's like well you got me so yeah. Since when do we get Eva Longoria for election analysis? Yeah! That is very odd... I kind of skipped over it but they're trying to shift out Black you know black black black color color color of color. Yes, right cuz you even seen this with Kamala Harris It was, she's a black woman all the way up until election and now it's oh she's Indian. But she's the best you know? She's comma-comma-comma-comma-chameleon! Yeah. She can change whenever she wants. She can be brown, she could be black... Right, yeah she's a desi and she knows. That's a desi. Yes. Which but you didn't hear this for uh you didn't hear this for Obama

1:04:49 You didn't hear when he won it after that. He was like, oh he's white too or he's multiracial no they didn't play that game with him but I'm noticing um That they're whitening up or lightening up kamala and i have this and i think this is what the point i'm making here Is in that okay? Alright, so I have to get in my black bubble. Oh alright well okay well...I'll keep the mic on the outside so i can still hear you Right! So what the black bubble is this when you have to see things through the completely quote-unquote Black lens and when Black people heard her say this it's that um this is not me this isn't from the black bubble

1:05:39 Latinos are not lazy like black people. We persevered and we don't let voter suppression get in our way, and you know that thing in Georgia that y'all did? Yeah it was nice but we're the real heroines can you get me out of this thing? Hold on stand back everybody okay you're out thank you yeah thank you for saying that because isn't that kind of the question I'm always asking is how do you feel about And I completely, and okay so from my perspective very interesting thanks for not setting me up for it. I'm glad you didn't do that. I didn't hear that obviously all I heard I heard her taking credit for the win but of course being a white man it didn't hit me

1:06:31 that was actually very derogatory in this specific case because it's, it was the black vote that was told was going to make it happen. Right, but what she's saying is us Latino women and she didn't step aside black people. That's what she's saying We did it exactly with a new with a new block of interest Yeah So that didn't last very long Because they came for her and we go over to the best stop in political tea Roland Martin everyone's Yeah, and he covers this apology up even.

1:07:23 80% of black men, excuse me. 91% of black women voted for Joe Biden against Donald Trump. 80% of black men voted for Joe Biden against Donald Trump. Her card is on my desk I'm sorry. A sister sent me this t-shirt y'all today and it says vote like a Black woman which was pretty funny. And Eva Longoria, who is a Democratic activist and actress, but let's just say she got in a little hot water over the weekend when she said this on MSNBC. That did not sit well with a whole bunch of sisters. Eva Longoria got ripped for those comments given the impression that she was dismissing black women.

1:08:08 She got ripped. Ripped? By the way, besides his obvious flub at the beginning it's interesting that instead of saying whatever his numbers were 80% of black women voted for Joe Biden it was both times men black men and women actually voted against Donald Trump that's what he said That's interesting. Maybe that's the secret, the truth wants to come out because nobody was voting for Joe Biden which goes even this high astronomical number that we're seeing of votes... And where did he get his numbers from?

1:08:46 He didn't say I think he probably just got it off the news like everybody else did that was those numbers everybody was quoting and that lets you know that Twice as many black women voted for Trump this time around the last time And you had a significant increase on the men's side, but he glosses over that and then he reminds You I've got a t-shirt. It said vote like black women That was just hilarious to him so As you can see the black female political class, they called Eva. And they told Eva you gotta fix this! That's right. The same thing Donald J Lemon got into the same trouble so who called her? I don't know and there is not really any evidence of who did call her but you know how the fix it conversation goes don't you Adam? Oh yeah, well that's like Donald with Oprah

1:09:43 Right, so let's get on The official tweet is read by Roland of her apologizing. Oh gosh, they got to her! This was what she posted on Twitter I'm so sorry and sad to hear that my comments on MSNBC could be perceived as taking credit from black women when i say that latinas were heroines in this election i simply meant that they turned out in greater numbers and voted more progressively than Latino men My wording was not clear and I deeply regret that There is such a history in our community of anti-blackness, uh, in our community. And I would never want to contribute to that so let me be very clear black women have long been the backbone of the Democratic Party something we have seen played out in this election as well as previous ones finally

1:10:34 Black women don't have to do it alone any longer. Latinas, many who identify as Afro-Latina indigenous women AAPI women and other women of color are standing with them so we can grow our collective voice and power together we are unstoppable nothing but love is support for black women everywhere you deserve a standing ovation Wow AAPI American Asian Pacific Islanders probably. Yeah, everybody's in... Except Latino men get out of here men! Welcome to the club fellas! You don't belong here get out of here men horrible men

1:11:21 Hey girls! See for the sisterhood, they threw their men right under the bus. I was talking about those sorry Hispanic men that went and voted for 45 Savage that's what she was saying and whenever you start your statement off is what i mean was it's coppin please. Have you ever heard of the term coppin please? If not She's I don't want no trouble ladies, you know, I know you the backbone so they may Eva bow down but she It's always the apology I find more interesting than the statement. And it always gets glossed over She says, Yes! I heard that too and i was like wow you're gonna just come out and say that? Like you guys are a bunch of racists? Well the men are! You gotta put two and two together Oh yes of course The Latino men are... Wow threw them under the bus and backed up over them

1:12:26 This is how it works. Yeah, fellas talking to my Latino brothers out there and welcome to the club. Hold your head! Don't worry white men are not far behind we know it'll be our turn eventually because you know how it goes yeah black man hold the door open for everybody else Right, so she was copping major pleas in this and this next little snippet is from her original statement. And I just want to play that one more time what she said the women of color showed up in big ways of course you saw uh in Georgia what black women have done but Latina women were the real heroines here beating men and turnout in every state

1:13:14 But my dad always told me when you say something and follow it with a but everything you said before that, but is negated is negated. So this backbone and we're the real heroin don't line up nothing even was just feeling herself And she wanted she wanted her credit and it's funny how she comes out says it boldly? But the black pundits have to say oh there's everybody who's a coalition It was everybody It's the whole color of the rainbow. Everyone did it. So we're gonna take a little deviation from the normal path and look into the Latino votes for CBS Today

1:13:58 The U.S electoral map doesn't look that different from 2016, but states like Florida Texas Arizona and North Carolina are experiencing a sea change driven by a wave of new Latino voters what we are seeing is a lot of higher than predicted young Latino voters coming out and voting the progressive leaning group Latino decisions pulled a slice of Latino voters in found nationally about 70% supported Joe Biden But just 27% favored Donald Trump. Republicans repeatedly portraying Biden as a socialist candidate appealing to exiled Cuban and Venezuelan Americans, grassroots organizer Melissa Tavares calls that misinformation and says Democrats faced a major obstacle in getting communities of color to vote

1:14:44 the coronavirus. Because of COVID, we're not able to knock on doors most of our work shifted to virtual or it's a phone banking which is not the same as engaging people face-to-face. But the pandemic did not slow a surge of left leaning Latino voters in Arizona where NBC News exit polls show 63% of the block broke for Biden compared to 33 percent for Trump Arizona has seen its population grow and economic opportunities widen, attracting young Latinos to the state. What is happening in Arizona is very similar to the demographic shifts that we are also seeing in Georgia. There it is again! They brought up some points here one 33% of

1:15:32 Latinos in Arizona voted for Biden, but there's no shaming. You had a high turnout... Voted for Trump you mean? I mean yeah voted for Trump yes excuse me and then you had a high turnout for Trump in Florida amongst the Cubans right there's no shaming But whenever a black person comes to try to step out and say I'm going to vote or not vote, or I'm going to vote differently than you expect me. Here comes the shaming so i just want to point that out and I want to put a question on the table Cubans are they similar to ADOS or foundational blacks in the way that they're a subgroup within a larger group? And they have their own interests and they vote their interest if that's a question uh

1:16:23 Yeah, I would say that's correct. It's a thought I laid out for the debate. Well but okay so what you're saying is please don't think just because they have brown skin that they fall under the Latino Latina banner They vote their independent interests of whenever you say socialism Yeah, that's a no-go for them and they basically hold Florida hostage even though there are small community and as we've seen how these things lay out on these cities like Well the states of Pennsylvania Michigan These urban centers Pips Are where the stronghold a black vote is so if you could get

1:17:06 black people in Detroit, Philadelphia to be on coal like the Cubans are that could be they can wield significant political power. So I'm just saying the Cubans are a excellent example of being part of a larger group but voting your individual interest. Well only being part of a large, larger group because of the color of their skin for no other there's no other reason at all! Hello? Not even Latin America it's not South America it's Cuba I'm just making it extra clear remember pinky It's not even about pigment anymore, it's about what group you fit in right So we're gonna continue on with the CBS Today clip and it's gonna give us a few more numbers But before we continue

1:18:03 We have to keep our eye on Arizona. I'll say that and then we can jump into this next clip. Speaking of the Peach State exit polling shows Biden with a 16 point edge among Latinos there down from 40 points under Clinton, and a 19 point by an edge in Texas down from 27 points under Clinton But both of these states suddenly in play for the first time in decades. There has been a lot of engagement in Texas and it's also a process I mean when we're talking about places like Arizona that have are now solidly purple with state slowly changing colors Miami Dade Republican chair says one formula has kept Florida reliably read regular outreach to Latinos truly cared about the Hispanics in Miami data in Florida and that paid off for him

1:18:49 You see how that looks? Yeah. Bad, it's very bad can't have this. Regular outreach and these numbers now Joe Biden we just said that the voter turnout was higher for black people but the turnout was lower than expected just on percentage wise so it seems like the black vote didn't do a form well he was... Just to question of that Moe because you know this is the math that we've been talking about for over a year is, and just leaving everything out of the equation. What we talked about specifically was if two or three percent less pips black people voted showed up to vote that would lose the election for Joe Biden and the Democrats so do it do we know exactly what that turnout number was? And was it indeed those 2% or 3% lower as expected

1:19:51 See, we don't know the overall number of what the turnout was. They keep giving us the percentage of who was registered and who voted... Exactly Not not the actual this is how many voting black people people are voting age that are black and of that a number This is the percentage it turned out That's the original number that we started out with but also We don't know that now How did they even get? Now this is just a question Your vote, that you voted is known. What you voted is not known. Who do you mean what you voted? So that you voted, Mr Mo Fax, that you voted... That is a matter of record who you voted for it's not public record nobody has that

1:20:40 No. So how do they come up with these numbers? Exit polls. Right, bullcrap in other words. Which that could be skewed because if I voted for Trump and I'm black... I mean, that number could be even. Yeah stand out there in the middle- Right, which by the way should totally be able to do but not in this time and day and age 50 cent little Wayne ice cube Should I go on here? That's the shaming. I'm talking about that was you're not to do it Yeah, yeah You better not do it But my point I was saying is in Georgia now these dis word numbers they just don't job for me 2016

1:21:25 Hillary Clinton had a 40 points to the black vote, right? I mean of the Hispanic vote. A 40 point margin difference that went down to 16 for Joe Biden in Georgia. Incredible amount! So the Hispanic vote is down for Joe Biden and the black vote is down for Joe Biden But he wins Georgia, which is historically a red state. 28 years? Yeah I think 1992 was the last time i believe yeah come on come on bro

1:22:02 Well, after Sidney Powell unleashes the Kraken we'll understand better how that worked. This is the problem! How can you do a good analysis with numbers so out of whack like this? It's truly the definition of incredible it's almost not credible to look at these astounding numbers And then the poll, pre-election polls. The difference is there's so many anomalies you would have to throw out if you were just doing a experiment and it's the data that came back with you came back to you You would have to throw this out over again. You'd have to throw this year out exactly no that can't be right we gotta do that over yeah well that's not gonna happen I'm speaking scientifically here because i do DOEs

1:22:54 That's for people that don't know, that's design of experiments. And when you have out-of-whack numbers like this you can't trust it You know? You can't trust the numbers But I said we have to keep our eye on one Arizona and two Georgia So i'm gonna speak briefly in these next couple of clips about Arizona and then we're going to pivot to Georgia All right, 24a. All-American wrestler Nashawn Garrett moved from Maricopa County Arizona to Tennessee about five months ago so he could train for the Olympics So you can imagine his surprise when he got a message from something called The Voter Integrity Fund. The state of Arizona is reporting that a ballot was cast in the name of Nashawn Garrett in the general election on Tuesday If Nashawn Garrett did not cast this ballot please call us back

1:23:48 Wow. Well, that doesn't sound fishy at all right? Well, Nashon didn't think so either! So he went to the state of Arizona's voting website only to discover that his ballot had been accepted and Maricopa County's voter portal said his ballot was signature verified and counted. The only problem is he'd already voted in Tennessee, didn't vote in Arizona. Nashon Garrett joins me now. Nashon great to see you now. You never received an Arizona absentee ballot or application for mail-in ballots. So who the heck cast your ballot in Arizona? That is an excellent question, that is an excellent question I have no idea and that's the reason why I'm on here with you tonight

1:24:36 What does it make you think about this process in Arizona that we understand from this statement tonight, um, that i-it's been examined and there were no irregularities found? What was that announcement that uh... I've never heard an announcement like that. If this if if this was your ballot let a c- get in touch with us where was that announcement from That was the call he received Oh, from the integrity fund. Okay I got it right right so that's part of their check? Right saying did you vote basically did you cast this vote and somebody did! Somebody casted for him that was very kind he didn't have to do that but it was in Arizona when he was currently in Tennessee and then he voted there yeah There is no evidence or fraud Adam we know this It's crazy He's just an outlier No just that should be disregarded as an outlier don't even look at it onward

1:25:31 But the only problem is he's an Olympic athlete. So, he has some credibility and he's just not some person they pulled out of the woodwork. I just want to point out one more thing this is back to the Fox thing again you have Tucker, you have Laura They can't say it's fraud but they can't say its fraud And they had to do these stories One minute they come out saying this then go back and say or against They're in a very tough situation because they don't have a place in New Fox.

1:26:08 No, I disagree. Now I disagree! I think they have an absolute place in New Fox and I've seen...I follow Tucker Carlson very closely. Frau Ingram not so much but he has moved from having opposition guests on who will argue with him that's over he hasn't done that in months He recently announced that that he's staying with Fox News and that they had just or they had just completed In fact, I have the clip actually. We should probably listen since we're talking about it Yes here he is Before we get to the next segment a quick note about this show over the weekend We got a lot of calls asking if we're leaving Fox News Ironically at that very moment we are working on a project to expand the amount of reporting and analysis we do in this hour across other parts of the company

1:27:02 This show is not going anywhere, it's getting bigger. The people who run Fox News want more of it no less and we are grateful for that We'll have specifics soon but as always thank you for your trust in us we will do our best to be worthy of it So...to me He is going to be, because he says we bring you news and analysis. Analysis yes! He brings analysis that I think will make many conservatives feel good about what he's saying because it's probably what they're thinking but news no this is controlled opposition just having a guy on at 8 o'clock in the evening saying I agree with you is not the same

1:27:43 Of all the, if he truly was in the news business he would have at least brought some... Sidney Powell that's why I bring her up again is a serious lawyer and this is the only reason why I give this whole thing. Rudy Giuliani has been so marginalized but quite a serious guy, lives in Manhattan when he was my mayor and I saw the good things he did and the corruption he cleaned up. The crime families, the Wall Street crime that's when Michael Milken, the last guy that actually went to jail for doing something bad on Wall Street So these people, but mainly Sidney Powell. She's worthy of speaking to and I she even actually excoriated her for not showing any evidence Right so this is me This is and by the way they can't sell an ad if their life depended on it It's all per inquiry. It's all my pillow. It's all Medicare commercials They can't even get a good pharma ad which runs the entire cable business

1:28:41 In his time slot. So this is just controlled opposition and Sadly, I think he knows it no, I'm gonna agree with you And that's why that's what my point on making that him and Laura Ingraham are in a tight spot because their fan base Boys guys mostly maggot its going oh yeah now That's maggots go in the Newsmax so if they go to Newsmax That leaves no room for Ingram and Tucker Carlson so they have to waffle back and forth between I'm with Magna, I'm not with Magna. They have two masters

1:29:30 They have to play this very closely because if they don't if they don't play this right that's why I brought the point about the comments and and The feedback that are getting they won't have a place in the new Fox cuz new Fox would just become CNN or some kind of benign Mm-hmm not as not as gimmicky as CNN But you know down the middle college balls and strikes for news for 13 years on the No Agenda show. I have said Fox News is run by Democrats and here's the truth. It is! And you saw that play out in the um... Calling of Arizona? No, the mini-series they did on what was it called again? Roger Ailes. Yes yes yes I know that was fictitious but you saw the Murdoch sons come in and kind of like dad

1:30:22 You got to play it this way, but I digress. But I want to go back to Nayshawn and his claim of voter fraud That's what the post-election audit in Arizona said that Phoenix and Maricopa County no irregularities And it seems like your ballot was cast by someone else doesn't that seem like any regularity do you? Yes, and unfortunately I can only speak to my own experience but from my own experience I found... And this just happened within the last couple of days where ummm..I had some suspicions that there could be some irregularities. I have mainstream media speaking that there's not but yet i have just dropped in my hands it just so happened

1:31:11 that a ballot was cast in my name. And it's unfortunate, but it's the truth. Now do you think like maybe a mail-in ballot application was sent to an old address there? I mean, I'm just trying to think of how it happened and someone received that application, sent it back in signed it or... Or do you know if it was mail-in or if it was an in person vote? How did it get cast? I believe it was a mail-in ballot. And as far as I understand, there was mail in ballots sent to my old address in Arizona but I haven't lived in Arizona and over the year and for four months.

1:32:03 What? What, how did you think that's possible? Yeah please. And just for the optics of it Nayshawn Garrett is a quote-unquote black person. Pips! Pips excuse me pips thank you so that even lends to the spiciness of this story is like here's this black guy getting his vote stolen in Arizona. Surprised and and the vote flips from red to blue. I don't even know the current status of Arizona, because it went blue and then is it red now? Well, it's unclear! Everything in flux... It's in dispute yeah And again everyone's voting for the electors so this... But are they still counting?! This is why can't- To be honest with you I had to unplug

1:33:00 Are they still counting? I know in Georgia, they're recounting because I follow that one closely. Yeah, they're recounting and auditing so there's two parts to it In Georgia? Yes And I think Arizona too I don't think it's a audit yet in Georgia. We'll bring that up later to discuss, but not sure but just to continue on with the show. It's just uncertainty we don't know who still counting who's done counting nothing has been called some people are recounting There's a bunch of lawsuits to go around and we're really not going to have an answer. But the belle of the ball, Stacey! Yes because it wasn't Latina, Latinas? It was Staceys! Her being a high member of The Coven she was invited to the Colbert show

1:33:55 Hey, welcome back everybody. She is the star of the Democratic Party whose get out the vote efforts have transformed the state of Georgia. Please welcome back to a late show Stacey Abrams. Thanks so much for being here. It's my pleasure thank you for having me back well You have been working tirelessly for the Democratic Party to succeed to have victory in the state of Georgia are you allowing yourself Time to celebrate right now, or is there too much work to be done? I had about 17 minutes on Saturday afternoon. I'm good Now get back to work okay We've got it we've got a win two Senate races. I can't dawdle too long now I want to get into that in just a moment But but I'm gonna dwell on this for just a moment more if you don't mind Okay, okay, so I'd miss said to become the first Democratic presidential candidate when Georgia since 1992

1:34:51 You're being credited with your get out the vote effort you're organizing of Georgia. How did you do it? Yes, that's what we want to know how Did you do it Stacy now for context after she apparently won the governorship of Georgia in her mind only not recognized and She started the Get Out The Vote. She had got a whole foundation together, she raised a lot of money, she's started a lot of lawsuits trying to prove voter fraud which I don't think she was successful at all and being the as you say the PIPs senior member of The Coven and the Council on Foreign Relations no idea why she's in there...I'm sure she had some something else up her sleeve

1:35:39 Let's just do some numbers here. So roughly 5 million people voted in Atlanta, Georgia excuse me Since 2018 she supposedly registered 800 thousand new voters in the state that only has five million voters Wow exactly wow that sticker price and then as of Sunday Saturday and this is I think What, Saturday the 14th? Yeah. The 14th nearly 3.9 million Georgians had already cast their ballots this is pre-election oh this is

1:36:20 excuse me, had cast their ballots and more than 90- this is more than 94% of that total number cast in the state uh 2016. So you had a huge number of mail-in ballots um in Georgia, huge number of new registered voters and I think the difference at the time I checked was like 12 000 and you're having all kind of shenanigans go on, and lawsuits filed. And Georgia's not even a close state like that I mean by margin...I have the margins here in this like 2%, 9% going for 2016 it was two percent that year before election before is nine percent so i mean it was tightening but it wasn't-it's not even close when you talk about 12 000 votes separate who the winner is so i just want to let out

1:37:12 This 800,000 number since in two years you registered 800,000 people. That is a crap load of people! Especially if they weren't registered before Exactly How did you find them? By the way when you said mail-in vote I swear to God I heard melanin vote it was the weirdest thing Like I like that, the melanin votes Tomato tomato But this is my gut feeling I feel like, and i could be wrong in this isn't...I don't have any empirical data. This is just only anecdotal data. I feel like Stacy's being set up here Oh really? That's interesting! All this praise they're lavishing on her if Georgia goes left and some shenanigans are found who they keep saying this is a lady we credited to all her work we accredited it too right yep

1:38:12 What this what this reminds me of is Loretta Lynch. Oh my god former attorney Attorney General of the United States yes who had the Bill Clinton Airport tarmac meeting and it was the Loretta Lynch meeting It wasn't a bill Clinton meeting This is how this is how it works you always set up to follow God If anything goes wrong, we pull the chair out for under Stacy and she holds the bag. Because they just this praise and we've just did the numbers. We went through the numbers a load actual turnout compared to who was registered

1:38:49 You heard Eva Longoria say, oh that was nice what they did in Georgia. Yeah you know like in a dismissive way yeah and by the way that was the real problem because she had said something which puts Stacey in a bad light when it's not her turn to be in a bad light yet Exactly. I got it now, okay? So Stacey that they're all there just oh Stacy you're the best And I want you to watch for a meme here and these next two clips we're gonna play i'm not gonna i'm not gonna reveal it to you But let's get into the second clip of Colbert with Stacey. So I want to make certain we give credit to so many groups that have been working at this for a very long time My part was that when I became Democratic leader in 2010, I started building an infrastructure to focus on registration on recruiting and training staff

1:39:42 on making certain we were in every single county and I advanced that through multiple cycles. In 2018, I finally had enough money to do all the things we dreamed of. I raised $40 million for my gubernatorial race and we kept raising money after I lost to keep focusing on keeping this infrastructure in place We worked with other organizations. We helped seed some those groups including New Georgia Project which I founded Fair Fight & Fair Count And we had two million voters who understood that their voices were needed and they showed up. Well, I know that you were doing all this organizing and all these efforts along with these other groups long before you ran for governor. But one of the sort of hallmarks of that campaign was the obvious voter purchase and voter suppression that were going on under then Secretary of State Kemp. And I imagine them must have given you even more energy for this effort than before?

1:40:44 He was a galvanizing force for the intensity of my efforts this time, yes. Do you think there are any Republicans on the national level now going, oh it would be better if she was just governor? Now we've lost the whole damn state! I had some time on my hands if they'd let me have this other job I probably would have been distracted. Idle Hands or Democracy's Workshop? I just find it interesting that now she's talking about 2 million people showed up. Is she claiming that she is responsible for that? Of course, because Joe Biden got at the time I pulled the numbers and was on 14th he had two million four hundred thousand seventy-two and some change right yeah and she saying of that number our register 800,000 in two years

1:41:37 That's one third. And let's just say not everybody you registered turned out, right? Let's just say that still they're saying 1 fourth. It's a big number. One-fourth of everybody voted you registered to vote...that dog gonna hunt over here! So she was on a press run and she went over to one of our favorite shows, The View. And listen how whoopies all giddy and listen for the meme as well. Nobody had Joe Biden's back more than Stacey Abrams. I mean, she has been working to make sure that the Democratic Party is doing everything they can do in Georgia to turn it blue. Please welcome the founder of the voting rights organization Fair Fight, Stacey Abrams. Welcome back, Stacey Abrams! I know all those politicians, Republican politicians in Georgia wish now that they had just made you governor

1:42:39 Because you, you know. I'm sure they're just going if we had just done that none of this would be going on So twice we get the boy, they're probably sad they didn't make you governor because now they lost the whole damn state. Whoopi's like she's hyperventilating on it. Yes! My goodness She couldn't wait to deliver that punchline I can't wait till saying oh they should have just elected you or how sweet the justice is Come on And she stole the line and wasn't even hers No

1:43:20 That's great. She's a comedian so that joke stealing is very, it's a very high crime in the stand-up world I'm glad you caught that! I didn't want to see if you could catch...I mean I knew you would but just hearing and like how oh man she was all over Stacey Big time yeah Well, I'm not caught up in the hype and we have to go back to a throwback clip 36 which was Lego my Jago Joco excuse me and Really? Let's really remember who Stacy is. And look we need to all remember who is Stacey Abrams This is a person who lost the governor's race that has her claim to fame started this nonprofit took five

1:44:05 $5 million from Michael Bloomberg. And then during the campaign when Biden and Burr and everybody else would have loved to have Stacey come up and do a campaign event, who's the one guy who gets her to come? Bloomberg! Yeah. The funny thing is remember we covered that story about how Biden's donors, a bunch of like Wall Street types were giving him advice on on who to pick. And the one person they said essentially no, they really liked Kamala. They liked Amy. They liked all those people. They did not like Stacey, which tells you everything that even Stacey Abrams would be too progressive. This is a CAP board member. Yes. Right? She's identity politics incarnate! This is very interesting. OK, so now I see where you're coming from with this setting Stacey up to behold in the bag and not the good bag

1:44:57 Because they're saying that she is responsible so when it turns out that it was fraud, guess who's gonna get pushed up front? Whoa! This is good. Oh man this is gonna be beautiful if anything goes down like that that'll be fun to watch 800 and she's on the outside looking in She's not a political person and what In the sense of she's not up to the DNC, the Kamala Harris, that tree. No! She was really giving her power from... She is despised by that group they don't like her at all But I always made the point this relation would have been real easy because she would have carried Georgia on her own

1:45:40 If you're looking, if we're just doing political math here. Kamala we already have California she's not really like she has the non eight eyes bad represent rap bad representation takes We have optics wise and her blackness is in question. We have Stacy over here She can give us Georgia. Um, she brings the Bloomberg money along with her Optus wise, her blackness can't be questioned and they go with Kamala. That just, I could never let that go. That's got a sting is what you're saying? It's got a sting for Stacey yeah it doesn't make any sense and she like they said that she's cool at Wall Street but if anybody can be left to held the bag she's not one of us no she's not one of their original members of the crew just think about like robbing a bank right but and but i will remind you that it was the former New York banker who

1:46:38 probably two years ago said Stacy, Stacey. Stacy's the one keep your eye on her because that she was clearly her name was going around in the Wall Street circles everyone's like Stacy she was politically correct at the time. Oh well see the way she energized it I mean just from narrative point that Georgia could be in play and her governor race that she had, you know it put her at the top of the list. Now let's go over to France 24 English and we're gonna go back to the 2018 election that she had against Kemp. With most precincts reported Republican, Brian Kemp leads by around two-and-a-half points over Stacey Abrams however the candidate to be the first black female governor in the United States is not conceding

1:47:32 Votes remain to be counted. There are voices that were waiting to be heard across our state folks are opening up the dreams of voters in absentee ballots and we believe our chance for a stronger Georgia is just within reach I'm Brian Kemp, I'm so conservative I blow up government spending. Brian Kemp faces a runoff next month in Georgia, there's a rerun if neither candidate has more than half the vote. Aside running for governor he is also Georgia's top election official days before the election Abrams accused him of removing voters from state roles His office said it was investigating Georgia Democrats for a failed attempt to hack the state's voter registration system

1:48:18 He stopped short of declaring victory. Make no mistake, the math is on our side to win this election Stacey Abrams... ...while came through strong support from Donald Trump. Far left politicians... Abrams was backed by the TV star Oprah Winfrey Both women condemned racist and anti-semitic automated phone calls that went out to an unknown number of Georgians impersonating Oprah Winfrey I've forgotten about that one yeah racists, she had eight, she had this right? Oprah? Who else went down to Georgia

1:48:55 Obama came out for her? Yeah, it was big. All the big stars and they were setting her up not in a net way but they were propping her to be a serious candidate now she said at the report said excuse me as the report said that she was down by two full points and she was still saying or 2% and there's votes to be counted of course voices to be heard dreams to be fulfilled Right, so Biden is up by three-tenths of a percent. Stop the count! It's over!

1:49:36 I'll say it like this. I just want to have complete transparency, count every vote verify every vote and reason why i say that is if they're gonna steal anybody's vote you know who vote is going to be let's just be completely honest here If there's any votes stealing going on we all know who's gonna start with So that, they mentioned the robocalls. Would you like to hear the robocall? The anti-semitic racist robocall? Yes! This so called Oprah's and anti-semite call me call is that the one Yes, I have that if you like to hear it. This is the magical Oprah Winfrey asking you to make my fellow Stacey Abrams the governor of Georgia Tonight both gubernatorial candidates are coming out against this fake robocall that recently surfaced here in Georgia In a statement The Abrams campaign calls the robo calls a vile attempt to sway voters using poisonous thinking Kemp Echo

1:50:35 Kemp echoes Abrams calling the robocall vile and absolutely disgusting. The robocall says it was paid for by the road to power, which has been linked to several other racist robocalls in Florida. Wow man that could have fooled me that Robo call that can we hear that first just a robot called not the whole clip just the robot call again hilarious is not the best is so anti-semitic. This is the magical Oprah Winfrey asking you to make my fellow Stacey Abrams, the governor of Georgia. the stupid video on the internet that caused Benghazi. Remember that scam? Like, oh people are really mad about this about this video that's hateful towards the Prophet Muhammad and that's why they're rioting and that's why there is storming Benghazi! This is just as dumb! And that was so fake it's so bad

1:51:44 It reminds me of the paintings of Jewish holocaust headstones and the burnings of black churches that end up coming back to the other party. That's what they remind- I'm like, that is terrible! That isn't even a woman... If you want to put together a- I mean, that was a guy. That was clearly a guy. Obviously it was dumb. I'd be embarrassed to put that in my report honestly. I would rather just read it and pretend people hear that in Oprah's voice. That's why I wanted to let people hear just to dig that up and put some context to these things that they're saying. Well, we got another stopping point I believe Adam where we can thank some more people if you would so kindly do so Yes and unlike Stacey Abrams who apparently has gobs of Bloomberg money We don't but it's not like we don't like it. I like brand new money I just I don't want any money around me

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2:03:52 So before we continue on, I gotta put some respect on Terry Keller's name. I say he may have a subscription set up because he comes in and almost has damn near perfect attendance if he doesn't, I believe it is close and he responded back to me saying no! I go do the work mainly every week so I gotta put some respect on Terry's name thank you Terry. Yeah that was really appreciated All right, so we stopped off. Where are we at? Thirty one. So this is Oh Wolf Blitzer. Oh no. We're following breaking news in Georgia right now and just a moment I'll be speaking live with Georgia's secretary of state who just ordered a hand recount of the ballots But let's get an update from CNN's Phil Mattingly who is joining us right now. So Phil what's the state of the race in Georgia

2:04:45 Well, Wolf if you look broadly at the map there's three states that currently have not been called by CNN and obviously all eyes are on Georgia. There is a big runoff headed there for two Senate races but we're focused right now on the presidential and as it currently stands Joe Biden is ahead by over 14 thousand votes Now what's going to happen over the course of the next several weeks Is a hand recount essentially in audit by the state going county-by-county counting every single vote by hand Here's the reality when you look at this map right now, unlike maybe a few days ago when Joe Biden was up by 1,000 or 2,000 votes. As his lead has grown as more of the votes have been counted processed and reported he has got a much more comfortable cushion well if you've covered recounts before you know how this works occasionally you will have a couple hundred votes flip at

2:05:26 most. Maybe there will be some errors that will cause some changes, but the reality of a 14000 vote lead in the state of Georgia, The Biden campaign feels pretty comfortable with that should feel pretty comfortable with that based on historical precedent. But obviously the recount is happening. The recount has been ordered and we'll see how things play out one thing to keep an eye on November 20th That is when the state has to certify. That is when the recount is expected to be complete before right now heading into that recount county by county By hand every single vote Joe Biden ahead by 14000 votes Mm-hmm a lot was said yes, you said whom I saw. I want to hear what you hummed about or I Forgot by the time he got to the end What did I whom about? I can't even remember if he said a lot okay So let's start with the home. I think we may caught your attention because it caught mine You say previously that there is an audit going on in Georgia Yes Not the case

2:06:21 There's a hand count going on and how you were probably propagandized was this slick trick Phil Maddenly pulled by saying, oh it's the hand count which is essentially an audit. No it's not! But here's what I understand they still have the right to do an audit even if the count has been certified That's why when they conflated those two things I needed to call it out right because he says There is a hand count going on which is essentially an audit. No, that's not everything Yeah, that's not a hand count is whatever ballots we have we counted through machine We're gonna go back and counter by hand They don't look into the validity of the ballot right? Which that's what an artist for two different thing up with our lightness that you said that it was odd it because

2:07:14 this go to show even us, me and you are susceptible when you don't listen to these things. And I had actually listened it four or five times is how I caught that because i just heard hand count on it. Yeah that's a very good catch and really that's part of the problem now is there so much let's just call it all information floating around that you don't know. It's like there, there's no one to rely on at all and then Phil says according to historical data the Democrats have nothing to worry about but this is not a historical election you can use use historical data on because nobody has seen this amount of mail-in ballots before right? Nobody seen 1 third of one party's

2:08:09 voting base increased by you know 800,000 votes. All of these things you know we have to look into and that's just but he said there is nothing to worry about here were going do the hand count which is an audit and it's gonna be over and that's not the case and wrap this... I was gonna say you mentioned earlier that you deal with DOE I think it was? And you'd explain the acronym I want people, you know without going into much about it but you actually do deal with statistical anomalies. All the time! And this is what and I know this I don't think people understand that that you are trained professionally to look for these types of things and then make decisions based upon weird ass numbers that... well go ahead and explain Okay i'll explain what I do is I'm a quality engineer

2:09:02 for a large company. And that's my job is to spot anomalies and to explain them, and if certain data sets don't... If they have too many outliers you have to kick them out and do another experiment so yeah that what you have to set up You have to setup experiments that will give quality data back So you can make decisions off of it That why when I look at statistics If they don't seem right, I would say professionally you got to run that over again. We need to get another experiment. I can't go off of that data So just to give you a little background on who I am and how I look at these numbers Yeah and that's kind of interesting because I'm not a quality engineer but I have a neural networking capability where I also spot anomalies

2:09:55 It's the weirdest stuff that I can spot but certainly and i'm not a financial or numbers guy at all. Numbers to me, I smell it right away can't always explain it but I know something is going on that's what I've been able to do my whole life! It's very odd so we're kind of the same in that way yeah We are because the way I like it my job too is kinda like police and the fact you get a hunch But then you have to prove your hunch or hypothesis. You had to prove it with empirical data, so... With clips! With clips! Yes. You gotta go to your office and say listen to this clip of Stacey Abrams! That's why those numbers are off. This is what makes me is just that I can't sit- now I love to investigate and there's just a little inside baseball about Moe

2:10:41 So we know there's a recount coming, hand count first and then the audit is a total different process if necessary. So continue on with Wolf here and he brings in Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger And the reason why I cite Republican is because that's how they refer to him In the blurb on the video and then in actual segment is Republican Secretary of State says that you know already hey guys it's gonna be some BS because the Republicans are doing accounting yeah but we'll let Brad continue on here. And as far as you know these ballots are all legitimate right?

2:11:27 All the ballots have been, particularly ones with in-person voting but we go through a process that counties do of accepting the absentee ballots. They've been verified and then they're also if the marks are made clear to they are adjudicated by three person panel one Republican one Democrat and then the county election official to make sure we verify the intent of every voter, to make sure that we have a lawful process and those are legal ballots. I'm just curious Mr Secretary how long do you think this can go on with President Trump refusing to concede that he lost the election because he wouldn't just have to flip the results in Georgia? He'd have to flip other states as well and we know that's simply not going to happen so...

2:12:12 Okay, that's right. Well you know Wolf he knows man he's on the inside He knows it is not going to happen no Which how don't let me now this is a great entry point on this there might be factions and say You know what we're done with Trump sure No matter what the numbers hey? No matter how it goes We're done with Trump And I want to just take a couple minutes to have his conversation because we might not be able to have it again Could it be that Amy Coney Barrett sealed Donald Trump's fate in a negative way? I've heard this. Um...I haven't, so this is an original idea of mine but it crossed my mind What I heard was that she would seal his fate by recusing herself In a vote that would essentially go...well She would recuse

2:13:17 Let me expound on what I'm saying about Sildar's fate. What more can he give the Republicans? From a political standpoint, he has given them... and this is what Dvorak's theory is He did his job, he gave just shy of 300 federal judges 2 Supreme Court Judges 3, I am sorry, awakened people to change No that's important! 2-3. Yes, that's the point I'm making yeah but that was the one that pushed the Supreme Court over the edge for a long time no but if Roof is still hanging on we need to let make Trump win but since roof made an early exit it wrapped it up we don't need their second term of Trump to get that third justice

2:14:16 That would be brand. Okay, so yes I believe that in general the Republican Party really wants that and That they are contained in general terms. I'm not talking about the people I'm talking about the political entity that lives in Washington We always talk about here Yeah, yeah, it's very got to be very good It's like saying when I talk about China now, I was not talking about the Chinaman. I'm talking about this guy He's communist party Yes of course because if Trump prevails wins, they're gonna learn the actual meaning of the term savage. Because he's got all kinds of stuff set up and heads are gonna roll and probably Bill Barr will be one of the heads. But if Roof was still hanging on right now they would have their arm twisted behind their back because they need Trump

2:15:11 to appoint her replacement, but her exiting early before the election. There's no from a political standpoint there's no more need of Trump. No exactly for it from the political standpoint you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right I just want i just want to put that out there because they just like black you know he have an epiphany like well holy shit! They don't need him anymore. No excuse my language sorry about that. Along with that goes what George Carlin said a long time ago. If voting actually made a difference, they would have outlawed it a long time ago! So this is the United States and I believe the world is going to get a very very interesting and perhaps harsh lesson in civics

2:16:02 when people find because that what is the number one term used in the mainstream media but I would say everywhere in the United States and incorrectly about our system and our government and and with exactly and this is where they're going to know awaken when they find out we are not a democracy and we are a republic and and that mainly is the political system when it comes down to brass tacks and numbers, and how someone gets elected. There's no learning people are going to freak out if Trump prevails they will not understand what happened because they are ignorant of the system that is correct and just one more minute on this topic They pick your primaries we heard that back when Bernie Sanders in 2016

2:17:00 That one guy I think he was some kind of election official in DNC like, oh no. No use to make the suggestion of who we want to pick. We actually picked the candidates true so if though if the DNC and RNC actually pick the candidates for who you're gonna vote for and then Electoral College actually picks of the two parties picked. Yes! What choice do you really have? Well that's the whole joke of it, and look at the committee for...the debate committee I forget what it was called- the presidential debate committee

2:17:41 That's only two parties. It's only the Republicans and Democrats, you can't get on a debate stage if you're a third party which is how they've manipulated everybody into believing worldwide that the United States has a two-party system factually not true but that's taught in schools I don't think Civics is taught at school anymore. It doesn't appear that way, that's for sure Not in the iteration where you had to have an understanding of how the government works As you've seen the 14 year old is reading what kind of books they're reading in social studies Exactly thank you That's your social studies now So let's just get back on track here with NPR

2:18:23 We have Adi Cornish and she talks with reporter Maya King on the surge of black voters in Georgia. The lead of your story is that almost every black Georgia voter has a story from 2018 Talk about how 2018 has fueled what we're seeing now. So, we know in 2018 when Stacey Abrams launched her gubernatorial bid she registered a record number of voters for that time more than 200 thousand And it really geared up excitement and engagement among Democrats in the state who were relatively confident that she would be successful. As the election got closer, a number of voters found that they were mistakenly removed from the rolls which set them up for very confusing process of filling out provisional ballots that might not have been counted

2:19:13 At the end of that election, Brian Kemp who was elected was also the state's secretary of state which called into question just how fair this election really was in the way that it was administered. Stacey Abrams lost the race by fewer than 60 000 votes which is nearly on track with a number of votes that were removed from the rolls. Oh yes, yes, of course we remember the story Another number she just said that Stacey Abrams signed up registered 200,000 people for her gubernatorial race Then another 800,000 after that's a million people a million. You only got five million voters in Georgia and a million of them was registered by Stacy Amos in the term and in the period of let you say four years

2:20:10 Let's say she got her ground game going in 2016, two years prior to the midterm election and now we're at 2020. A million voters registered! Huh you know does she publish any numbers on her Fair Fight website? Does she publish these numbers as factual? I didn't find it but i do have a number for you She has less than a thousand followers on her YouTube page. Well then we know that her whole being is a hoax! You can't even get over 1,000?

2:20:50 Yeah. Subs on your YouTube channel, which you would think I mean that's where all her campaign ads and information is being placed You would be pointing people in that direction you have like 700 I think it was It was less than a thousand for sure So less than 1,000 subs but you registered a million people in four years That's pretty incredible I'm just saying. I ain't saying what i was saying. Now does the registration from 2018, do you have to re-register for the 2020 in Georgia or that just carries over? I'm gonna say it again. I'm just going to say it again. Maya King says she registered 200 000 for the 2018 race. I'm referring to an MSN article this says

2:21:42 Abrams following her narrow loss in 2018 gubernatorial race, she says has registered more than 800 thousand new voters. That's a mil bro! No I see it actually I see USA Today article fact-checking this no I'm fifth of all the voters in Georgia. Moe that is clearly horse crap It just doesn't make any sense But they say it though and say it proudly you say oh yeah she did 200,000 here in another 800 000. You know great! Yeah that's just uh that makes no sense I'm praying for you Stacy. I'm letting you know now I'll pray for you She is gonna be- That bag is going to be so big when it comes down gosh And let me provide a little context I said Loretta Lynch

2:22:43 The guy that had the money in the freezer down in Louisiana, Mayor Ray Nagin. Do we not see a trend here? When it's time to hold the bag... Yeah yeah yep put a black person on the handle We're going to get more into that, but now we're going over the CBS News. And this is James Brown not the singer, the reporter and he's talking to Latasha Brown no Ken I don't think from Black Voters Matter excuse me and this is The Deciders black vote in 2021

2:23:24 African-American voters are concerned most of all about the coronavirus and health care. But fewer than half are confident their vote will be counted correctly, and turnout is key. The number of blacks voting for president dropped in 2016 for the first time in 20 years You passionately articulated what the concerns are of blacks now. Are you expecting that to translate into sizable turnout in this election? I am sensing that people are frustrated and tired, and because of that folks are motivated by different things in this election cycle. And so I do think you're going to have record number turnout.

2:24:06 Okay, we didn't know We did and I want to say one more thing record numbers Registration in the age of Kovac now. We heard in previous clips That was one that they may struggle with the Hispanics They struggle with getting people out because they couldn't hit the ground it could knock on doors right so how do they do? It just just enough please Because If Stacy actually did this, she's sitting on a billion dollars. If you can turn actually truly turn that kind of turnout out but let's go ahead and move quickly into the second portion of this clip and this is CBS News continue to talk about possible international plots

2:24:57 Even as turnout shatters records in 2020, Americans face new challenges to have their votes count. The FBI and intelligence officials have uncovered international plots to disrupt this election emails from Iran meant to scare people out of voting and Russian hackers targeting voting systems. Facebook has taken emergency measures to limit inflammatory content and false reporting. Many wonder if the postal system can handle the crush of mail-in ballots in the midst of a pandemic. There are reports that elections offices have been flooded with calls from anxious voters after the president attacked mail-in voting.

2:25:40 Coming up on the deciders, the voice of Latinos growing louder by the day. What? I left that little... what?! But enough about that back to Latinos! Wow Black people they're on your heels That's basically what that was That's why i left that in there Start with the end Their voices growing louder every day That's what they tell you Now The concern, the stealing of votes. You got Iran you got Russia tampering with voting machines now all of a sudden we don't want to look at that anymore We don't want to recount No of course not Hello? It's so blatantly obvious it's just okay...we see it Previously you were worried about Russians and you were worried about Iranians which I know North Korea! Don't forget they stole that movie So you know North Korea could be doing this

2:26:42 But who's missing from that rundown? What nation? China. Who will have the most vested interest in getting 45 Savage up out of there? Yeah, that would be China and this is... And I will say as a side note, Sidney Powell with all of her Venezuela and Cuba and Dominion and servers being raided in Germany and Smartmatic she always winds up saying China I'm just saying that when you don't mention them, you go to Iran? Seriously? You threw North Korea in there. Well they're throwing that in because from the day after the election it was like oh and Trump's gonna nuke Iran now and so they're just throwing stuff out

2:27:36 Flak, you know? When when you got incoming fire and your aircraft just spit out the flack and it distracts the missiles. That's what that is. And then they said half of black voters are concerned their vote is gonna be counted correctly or not. Yeah. What even more reason to run it back! I'm saying if that's the truth... If you're saying I'm gonna take this as truth, run it back recount the votes, audit every vote. Make sure that the most disenfranchised voter population vote is being counted correctly I demand a recount in Georgia and an audit. Yeah good luck! And every other center... It will happen it will happen yeah no i'm just saying but if you want to say that they're the most disenfranchised most suppressed

2:28:26 you shouldn't have any problem, Democrats shouldn't have any problem with the count being redone. That's all I'm saying. Especially with the history... Did you know there was a history of mail-in ballots being racist? Oh! I'm sure! I guess. Well when you don't want somebody to vote You create various kinds of things. Now we've come with the 1965 Voting Rights Act, they couldn't deny it outright so you find ways to try to suppress it." One of these ways would be through challenging Black voters' absentee ballots — through accusations of fraud

2:29:11 — It's one thing to be attacked by the local power structure. — Hank Sanders represented the defendants in one such case, brought by a U.S. attorney in Alabama at the time— Jeff Sessions. — The U.S. Attorney and others refer to these as voter fraud cases… We decided that they will vote a persecution cases. Sanders clients were voting rights activists, Albert Turner who had marched with John Lewis and Selma. This is bloody Sunday. Albert conceived at Sembite Fair And his wife Evelyn They've been helping black residents fill out their ballots and mailing them Okay Hank Sanders he held the bag

2:29:58 You see how this works? All the shenanigans. Stacy is so screwed, man. Oh man! Stacey duck and cover us! Hank Sanders was left holding the bag Jeff Sessions came after him for filling out absentee ballots I think he believes it was in Alabama if i'm not mistaken and he called a case just trying to do some good trouble with uh put his buddy down there and uh Selma but wow yeah, he um he caught a case. And let's just find out what happened when we caught that charge they've been helping black residents fill out their ballots and mailing them

2:30:44 Both of us was indicted, myself and my wife and another friend Spencer Holt were indicted on 29 counts of what is called vote fraud. The Turners were facing decades in prison It was my impression that Jeff Sessions thought that those... Hold on I just want to hear that they trailed him off I wanna hear that one bit again hold on. Go back. ...friend Spencer Holt were indicted on 29 counts so what it's called vote fraud The Turners were facing decades in prison. It was my impression that Jeff Sessions thought that those legal cases would stop black folks from not only using absentee voting, but it would stop black folks from voting in the numbers that black people were voting. At every chance he got, he was talking about voter fraud, voter fraud…

2:31:39 Sessions denied that the case was racially motivated and insisted what the Turners did was illegal. In the end, the jury found nothing they did had broken the law but the idea that absentee ballots were susceptible to widespread fraud would live on Wow this is a part of the story I never knew about this very interesting yeah and it didn't mean you can see front line was rolling it out to chum the water. And of course absentee ballots is nothing compared to the mail-in ballots that were, the way it was done this election and it's two completely different things Correct because I believe the difference is absentee ballots have to be or are solicited where you have to request and you have to give a reason

2:32:29 Okay, that's the difference. Not that your reason is denied necessarily but you have to give a reason and that's evaluated and you know the astronauts they can vote they in fact the astronauts do vote and they put on their absentee ballot request I'm in space bitches and then get to vote But anytime you got Jeff Sessions involved. Oh, yeah that's that was the bell for me sessions come on um So just to look into Hank Henry Sanders background After law school Sanders won a Ford Foundation fellowship okay and they sent him to Africa for a year Go back home son Don't we see these trends?

2:33:14 Where these people get these foundation and then they get sent to Africa. It's good guy It's called quid pro quo is what it's called No, but you you were saying about the stronghold of intelligence agencies in Africa news kind of things Oh Absolutely. Yeah, well we saw that with the guy um, uh, is this my memory now? It was the guy that came back, that was following King around. The photographer. Oh yeah exactly. Graduated from college and I hate his name slips my mind but it was off the cuff but went to Africa got a college educated went to Africa what i'm not saying anything i'm just Ford Foundation that's a red flag and

2:33:59 Getting shipped off to Africa for a year for some kind of training. I'm just gonna leave it there Yes, that's exactly training you nailed it on the head so Hank is Hank end up becoming a politician at the years of doing this kind of political work and he has a robocall. Would you be interested in hearing his problematic robo call? I would certainly love to hear that! Come on in Hank! Friday, 741 PM Hello this is Hank Sanders from Alabama State Service and I'm still mad as hell. I say hell no! I ain't going back to the cotton fields and Jim Crow days.

2:34:40 Jim Folsom and others who will do right by all of us. I hope you are mad as hell and will not go back, because you have the power to choose! I will stand until hell creeps over for Ron Sparks for Governor, Jim Folsom for Lieutenant Governor on November 6th. Pay for the Alabama mid-town!" Not going back to the cotton field. The Republicans are gonna take you back to the cotton field and you could probably hear it at the end but its pay for the New South, so this new south Keep seeing it pop up New South, New South. So we have to keep our eye on that one I just don't have anything concrete on yet But I ran into several times doing this investigation new song is a slogan in the history of the American south or the American Civil War Interesting right? Okay. Keep her eye on it got it so just as an example

2:35:34 If this thing goes sour in Atlanta, we've seen something like this before play out in Georgia and Atlanta specifically. And that was the Atlanta school system scandal. Worst school cheating scandal in this country one of the nation's biggest school systems caught up in it and its not the middle school students who are being blamed instead their teachers and school leaders ABC Steve Osensame on The Case Tonight At this Georgia courthouse, you'd think they were indicting mobsters with charges like racketeering and theft. But the accused thugs now fighting serious jail time are 35 Atlanta teachers, principals and test coordinators. The whole purpose behind this is to vindicate the little children who got

2:36:22 jipped out of an education. The indictments are the latest page from a now three year long investigation that has shaken the faith of parents with school children here at one point nearly 200 teachers from 44 schools were accused of changing student answers to improve scores on federally required standardized tests frustrated and disappointed. If a jury finds him guilty, they should go to prison. The educator in the most trouble is former school's chief Beverly Hall, a national superintendent of the year who faces up to 45 years in prison. She's accused of giving bonuses to teachers who inflated test scores and firing teachers who didn't she says she's innocent? What we're saying is that without her this conspiracy could not have taken place

2:37:05 Former Atlanta school teacher Sydney Fells told us she was under so much pressure to cheat, she quit first. We were told that we needed to get these scores by any means necessary I've forgotten all about this. When was this? This was like six years ago, maybe? Yeah mid to early 2000's But yeah They were left holding the bag most if not all their teachers were black mostly female and they got screwed Oh my goodness 45 years for the thugs you heard what he said the thug oh man

2:37:42 ABC News, this is ABC News. And do you remember Aunt Becky? What she got for the emissions scandal? Uh what like two months 60 days? Peanuts! If that yeah... Now this is the clear- This is what I'm talking about when we say systemic racism 45 years for changing some test scores And these people use their power and influence, and they only get months. And then it's... Oh yeah you can come show up when you want to." Some of them were like, Yeah you can come if you want to kind of thing or your husband could serve for you if we'll let him go do your time for you. It was some... So let's take bets how many years do think Stacey Abrams will get?

2:38:31 Hmm election fraud and somebody's gonna roll. I'm just say this Atlanta people don't get mad at me Atlanta is known for the scam they're known for the flim-flam the finesse as they call it so So this thing There's no telling who could flip to say I did this I was told to do that to save their own hot It's too many loose ends hanging out. I'm not saying what's gonna happen, but just looking at historical data how when it's conspiracies that go on like the school rigging of school testing you saw how the hammer came down swift you saw who was left holding a bag and then you saw how everybody turned their back on him is like he sucks!

2:39:21 I find this analysis of the show spectacular that I had not considered that this would take place and i think you may be right. No matter the outcome, I think you're right. I think Stacey Abrams has a target on her head now But wait, there's more. Oh no! Texas woman A woman in Texas was sentenced to return to prison today because she voted in the 2016 election As Omar Villafranca reports the woman used her real name and identification but her criminal past made voting a crime And she said, put your hands behind your back. You have a warrant for your arrest. Crystal Mason still remembers the day she was arrested for voting in the last presidential election. My mom kept nagging go vote, go vote, go vote and I was just like OK? I did what you said. I went to go vote. The 43 year old was on supervised release for tax fraud when she cast her ballot

2:38:31 Hmm election fraud and somebody's gonna roll. I'm just say this Atlanta people don't get mad at me Atlanta is known for the scam they're known for the flim-flam the finesse as they call it so So this thing There's no telling who could flip to say I did this I was told to do that to save their own hot It's too many loose ends hanging out. I'm not saying what's gonna happen, but just looking at historical data how when it's conspiracies that go on like the school rigging of school testing you saw how the hammer came down swift you saw who was left holding a bag and then you saw how everybody turned their back on him is like he sucks!

2:39:21 I find this analysis of the show spectacular that I had not considered that this would take place and i think you may be right. No matter the outcome, I think you're right. I think Stacey Abrams has a target on her head now But wait, there's more. Oh no! Texas woman A woman in Texas was sentenced to return to prison today because she voted in the 2016 election As Omar Villafranca reports the woman used her real name and identification but her criminal past made voting a crime And she said, put your hands behind your back. You have a warrant for your arrest. Crystal Mason still remembers the day she was arrested for voting in the last presidential election. My mom kept nagging go vote, go vote, go vote and I was just like OK? I did what you said. I went to go vote. The 43 year old was on supervised release for tax fraud when she cast her ballot

2:40:16 In Texas, that's against the law. Do you feel that since you served your time and you were out of prison that you should be able to go and cast a ballot? We should! We pay taxes... And-and that's what I believed If i had a doubt in any way, I wouldn't have did it Here felons can't vote until they have completed their full sentence Now Mason faces five years in state prison for voter fraud Wow ...and today was given 10 months in federal prison for violating the terms of her supervised release. Are you mentally ready for that? Not at all, I'm not ready. Nationwide an estimated 6.1 million felons are restricted from voting nearly half a million of them are in Texas In 13 states felons lose the right to vote indefinitely

2:41:10 So, this lady went and did what her mama told her to do and go vote. Just like Chancellor Rappaport told you, vote like your mama tell you to vote. And caught a case! Five years on top of the ten months that she had to serve and she was out with her sentence not being finished yet She goes to vote which I'm going to take a sidebar here Yeah I am a firm believer that once your sentence is done all your rights should be given back to you that day. Unless there's evidence that one of those rights may be a harm to the public, say if you were a violent offender and get your second amendment right back then they need to prove that giving me your rights back is a harm to the public but it shouldn't be that you need to prove that you should have your rights back they should be reinstated the very day that you paid your debt to society

2:42:11 I'm in agreement with you. And, and uh...I think probably your record should be expunged because i know people who've gone to federal prison for white collar crime and which is questionable if they're victims but doesn't matter crime as a crime two years it could be two months doesn't matter you come out your marked you never working again you never working again do you might as well just pack it in its horrible So I wanted to show this case, these two cases. The Atlanta school case and then this woman in Texas that voted. I don't think she had any ill will or was doing it out of any active criminal act. She was just going to exercise her right to vote as she should be allowed do so but five years bam! Just like that. That's crazy. That's just nuts

2:43:09 So what I'm pointing out here, if they put that kind of pressure on anybody that has the kind of information that could be flipped watch out. That's all i'm saying oh yeah we're seeing they will hurt you they will do it Yeah so this is where we but wait there's more no no One of my favorite people, Miss Cynthia McKinney. I got some information for her and well...I'll just let you give her take on the 2020 US election Do we need to talk about who she is first? We can do that afterwards Sure sure! Well i'l tell ya how I know about McKinney Now she was a politician She was a member of the House of Representatives She's from Georgia

2:44:04 When I first kind of started learning about stuff in general, looking deeper. The internet had really helped a lot with that so 2000... well it was much earlier than that but she was kind of a sweetheart of the 9-11 truther movement for awhile and she got her ass shut down like hardcore and she disappeared from the scene almost overnight But she got the cancel cannon. Can we get a cancel cannon, please? This is a post-cancel cannon for Cynthia McKinney. So where did she show up to talk about the 2020 election? What news outlet? On some fringe YouTube channel that I follow. It would have to be because she was threatened man! She had to stop doing this for her life

2:45:02 I want to show, I wanted to juxtapose two people. One Miss Cynthia McKinney with one miss Maxine Waters. They both came in talking hot stuff. Maxine Water was talking about the intelligence agencies that supported the drug trade in California and around the same time you had Cynthia McKinney talking about DynCorp and all the stuff that they were doing, and the children and this and that. Fast forward one lady is damn near like a power broker in the Democrats. She's royalty? Right! And then other one has been outcast. Pauperized. Cast out to the fringes of YouTube What's your take on where we are in relation to who won and what's going to happen in the next few weeks

2:45:58 Well, it is really difficult for me to watch this for me and my mom in fact. To watch this as it unfolds because this is really a deja vu for me Georgia was the very first state in the country to deploy electronic voting machines And at that time the decision was being made computer software and hardware experts were ringing my phone telling me, Cynthia we've got a problem. And so I became involved in the issue of electronic voting machines the software the hardware the choice of manufacturer and company that tabulates votes all of that i was involved

2:46:52 at the very beginning. Let me just point out that you were a six-term congresswoman and it took them seven terms in electronic voting machines to finally cheat you out of office? Well, yes! You're absolutely right about that. Yeah and it's coming back to me now this was the Diebold or DeBold machines which I think actually became Dominion slash Smartmatic or they bought them up And there was a relationship with Romney's Bain Capital. This and if you brought that up, same as today, it'd be like yeah you conspiracy theorist tinfoil hat wearing and that's how she got branded. Yeah but six time

2:47:41 winner of her district. Yeah! And then all of a sudden the electronic voting machines come in and she's out of there it doesn't work like that in district politics once you have the people's hearts... Unless you just do something like get caught with, you know, in a hotel room collapsing the floor. It's the reason why Maxine Waters gets re-elected, Nancy Pelosi gets re-elected Chuck Schumer and honestly Lindsey Graham I mean these people just keep getting elected over and over again if it's done fairly All right, so let's let Cynthia continue on how she was scammed. And so what I'd like to do today is Memorial Day and we are also stopping to recognize the valiant service of our veterans but let me also... We have veterans of very many different types of wars

2:48:43 And there's one veteran of the electronic voting machine war whose name I want to invoke at the moment and whose memory would like to recall. His name is Ethan Gibbs, he was an accountant and I'm using the past tense in this very it still very difficult for me but Ethan Gibbs as an accountant who also just happened to be a black man but more important than any of that He was a patriot and he loved this country. So when the decision was made after the fiasco of 2000 in Florida, the decision was made to utilize these electronic voting machines and Ethan Gibbs being an accountant decided that he was going to perfect this type of... This new type of machine for the administration of our voting system in the United States

2:49:44 He came up with redundancy, reliability, accountability privacy as well because people have the right to cast their votes in private. And his machine was began to win accolades across the country Ah, this is a story I know nothing about. You are blowing my mind right now Okay This is where the extra time pays off Mm-hmm. Yes, just let the producers know. I know you're calling like what's the product? Right

2:50:35 This is the extra time allow me to unearth unaccounted. The tragic story of Ethan Gibbs documentary. There was an African American man who was an accountant had come to me and asked for the opportunity to place a bid, to provide Georgia with this electronic voting machines. His name was Ethan Gibbs. Ethan was horrified about the 2000 elections not necessarily whether the Democrats or Republicans won but the fact is that millions of people

2:51:15 vote didn't count. There were 62,000 uncounted votes. That's the real problem." He had a very simple concept that you should be able to verify your vote just like you can verify your money in the bank and the money you get out of an ATM machine. The machine prints out a paper ballot that shows who you voted for once you've verified that the ballot accurately recorded who you voted for you drop it into a ballot box. The machine still counts the votes on election night

2:51:59 But if there's a challenge by one of the candidates, it is the paper ballot that gets counted. There are a lot of folks who have sold us machinery in the past who want to sell us machinery in the future that do not live up to the Athan Gibbs standard. Machines that don't live up to the Democratic standard and we shouldn't accept second best. There can never be any uncounted votes where the voter does not have an opportunity Yeah, and this is an overarching problem with the computer age, the cell phone age. The belief that everything just kind of is out there and we can always retrieve it. And I was quite surprised myself when we voted this year

2:52:46 that the machine I used, which was... now they've rejected the Dominion systems in Texas but the machine I received spit out a paper ballot then I verified it was my choices. Then you go over to another machine and I was a little surprised by this it took my ballot it sucked it in and here's a sticker Mr. Curry! I'm like whoa And it looked like the paper ballots, you know the machine that does the optical scanning No reason to doubt that It's sitting on top of what looks like a big trash can which is exactly where that paper goes You don't get a receipt. Yeah, yes! You don't get a receipt and from what I understand A lot of the actual images taken by these machines weren't even set to retain those records either

2:53:39 And here's the icing on the cake, Diebold at the time was making ATM machines that give you receipts. Yeah well those things were and I it probably was...I mean it's a long time ago but I was doing these types of shows and I think that came up in the conversation there was a lot about it but it was you know of course shut up what do you know? Aiden, he wanted to do the right thing. What happened to a but it didn't just turn out well for him play the next clip? But he was not his company wasn't chosen because the lobbyists were able to select the company based on friendships who got hired

2:54:33 and that sort of thing. Oh, let's cut to the chase they selected the company that would allow them to rig the election! That's exactly what happened, thank you so much! And so Diebold ended up being the company selected to administer the elections in the state of Georgia now this was rife with problems from the very beginning And in the end, my petard ended up being hoisted on the electronic voting machines. So I lost my congressional career

2:55:15 based on the malperformance of the Diebold electronic voting machines. Now what was- Which had no paper backups, right? No paper backups and in addition to that we experienced a phenomenon that we just could not understand That was... We had vote flipping So the constituent would go into the voting booth select the candidate of their choice, and then the machine would flip away from that candidate. And the voter would not even know it if they weren't paying attention. They would leave the precinct having not voted for the candidate of their choice

2:56:03 I know you asked a question and it's gonna be answered a little late. I thought we're answering that clip, but what have we been hearing about in the news lately? Exactly this! This is the Sidney Powell story that votes have been flipped. Ground Zero Georgia... Ground Zero Georgia he has Cynthia McKinney which if somehow some way her story can be told and documented in some kind of quality These are fine, but I mean they're Zoom calls and that kind of thing. This lady's story needs to be told! We will say heroes or talk about black history or these are the people that we need to be celebrating. And she has been it or certainly was very celebrated at the time

2:56:56 Yeah! And for her heroism, and I would have to go back and look at the research that I did on her in the clips. Um...I think a lot of it surrounded as I said 9-11 but there were other things that she also was looking into. I just remember she got threatened marginalized and told to shut up and go away and she kind of did Well, she's still around. She is talking but nobody won't put a microphone in her face to get her story out there and she was ran out of office if you take by her accounts she was ran out by crooked machines this is what she say and she was a Democrat so yeah

2:57:40 If you want to play the party lines, she should be heard as everybody should be heard. Now you had a question and I inherently promised you an answer to it but i think this next clip should answer your question He'd say you're investigative reporter why don't you report? And I said well you know why is he bugging me you know what's...I don't see any story here You know, think about this. Diebold is an ATM machine maker Every single one of their ATM machines gives you a receipt and has an audit trail And he told me I'm coming to this as an accountant in an auditor Right? Is why would you make a machine that doesn't provide a paper trail and can't be audited

2:58:38 And he left it at that and I said, That's a good question. And then I began to trace the history and then I wrote an article right after that which is a cover story in the free press and Harvey Wasserman and I wrote a follow up article for MotherJones.com The great tragedy was one week after the Free Press article occurred and the Mother Jones article occurred, about one week Ethan Gibbs died in a tragic accident where his car veered in front of a truck. Oh my goodness! One week? Yeah this is like the reporter Michael Hastings who had a huge story

2:59:25 Mm-hmm and crashed his car into a tree at 80 miles an hour in Los Angeles Yeah, I had these crazy things happen. And like I said anything give story needs to be told here is a black and pips Man that show his wanted to be a patriot Want to bring the truth to the light want to provide people with their voice Voice can be heard, proof that your voice is being heard. Now I'll say this why is it that Home Depot has a better record-keeping system than our election system? When I go to Home Depot and say do you want a paper receipt and do you want the email to you as well why don't our voting machines have that because it's... You're only supposed to have the idea that you're voting hello

3:00:15 And by the way, since we're doing this I'll just say and this was back in the Diebold days when it was 2012 Romney. I remember distinctly seeing Romney ahead early on and then all of a sudden it flipped and there was this huge surge for Obama. And I remember, we talked about it on Noah Jenna said that come on man that was weird and it was very similar to what we saw in hindsight differences but that like what hold on a second everything was hey how did that just happen where did all this come from you'd expect something to be kind of on a steady scale as we've seen in elections past but that one then this one changed

3:01:03 I was there watching it. I know exactly what you're talking about these numbers are funny and The count goes on what the hell y'all counting not seriously people need What is being counted right now? What took what used to be done in one night days and days and days to do It's a running joke of my house right now like still counting Who knows who knows And so we have this final clip from Miss Cynthia McKinney, and it pretty much wraps up a notion that we've always talked about in the show. In our time together in the RV with our staff are going across the country you turned to me one day and he said Robert all the bad things that are happening to white people today happen to black people first That's one of the coolest things you ever said to me

3:02:03 Oh, well. Yes! Hello? Captain Obvious we've known about this It's not cool is it?! I mean like...I understand what he said but that was one of the coolest things and now we have the ISO just so i don't have to redundantly say it uh We have him saying it now All the bad things that are happening to white people today happen to black people first Yeah. And there you have it, so your point being and well taken happened to Cynthia McKinney happen to... Now by the way yes Hank Johnson was no I guess I thought he followed her succeeded her now i guess not that's just so rotten man what is the hell is going on in Georgia? That's why I'm saying district politics don't work that way No Maybe statewide if you're talking about Senate those kind of things but these districts

3:02:59 Whoever they put up wins pretty much. I mean, because for lack of a better word they're gerrymandered or designed to work that way. You have pocket strongholds because of the socioeconomic making what makes up that district so for her to get ran out office and It doesn't make any sense. Six years? That means your people love you and she was fighting for the average man, so... What was the grander strategy of that particular election to get her out is one thing Right Who came in and but I mean what was the overall strategy do you think just because she's a pain in the ass And a problem because she had questions Yeah we can get rid We can get rid of

3:03:43 Now, fast forward to now. We can get rid of politicians that are headaches! We could flip these machines on and flip votes they don't have any receipts and anybody makes any noise they get silenced one way or the other. So she was beaten by Denise Majette? Mm-hmm And just reading from Wikipedia it's just interesting She defeated 10-year incumbent Cynthia McKinney in the Democratic primary. Majet, who had never run in a partisan contest before, defeated McKinney by a 58 to 42 margin." Come on! And right there it says McKinney had attracted controversy due to her comments after the September 11th 2001 terrorist attacks

3:04:37 The primary was also influenced, and this is Wikipedia, influenced by crossover Republicans i.e., Republicans who use their ability to vote in a Democratic caucus in Georgia Oh really? So she was the troublemaker for 9-11 Yes It seems like that's why she had to go And the other thing she was saying about some of these groups and what they were doing on foreign soil Oh yeah, she had a lot of issues about the FBI and CIA etc. Big time! She is a voice of truth and I think she needs not to be marginalized and it kind of pisses me off...I've always followed her on Twitter

3:05:22 Ever since you know keeping up with her. I'm gonna see we can find her She would be great to talk to about in a talk to him Certainly as it relates to what's going on at least the claims of what happened this year's guess and see if we can find her I'm sure she's findable, but I thought she stopped kind of doing interviews. She didn't do too much Oh, she's out there active especially in this climate and One more thing and then we could put the cherry on top because this is really gonna get you. Oh boy She's one the one that laid out the idea of the divide in a deep state I can't find this video anymore by seeing it and i'll just give you What I took away from it that there's a divide in the deep state And it's called like the piggies against the deep state, and the piggies are Basically the wasps the killer wasp let me get that more specifically That don't subscribe to

3:06:10 global government, they're more nationalist. And that's what makes up the military backing that you see with Trump now and that's her explanation I found it to be wonderful and i wish i wasn't doing this at the time or would have snagged it but I need to find a clip because our breakdown was like wow like eye opening she's like no its a divide in deep state right now so she's around she's dropping Drop a lot of good information. Yeah all over the place and I think she's more than credible not just credible, I think she's more than credible All right producers producers of the Mo Facts show Go get me Cynthia McKinney Please we need to talk to her Where her story can be documented and she could shine more light on Athan Giles who i think is a true American hero With all that said...I have this great clip from Chuck Schumer

3:07:08 Go ahead and hit it. Now we take Georgia, and then we change the world! Oh yeah? Now we take Georgia, then we change America I know i saw this i love that i love he put on his mask and did it again for the press who were asking him to say it and he changed it What did he change it to, Adam? We take the world and then he changes it to we change America. Now we know what's going on! We know what's happening over there He said, first we take Georgia then we change the world. He sounds like a daggone Confederate general! What? Yeah he had to change that real quick. He realized his mistake I don't think anyone really caught that that way actually. I did yeah but you know it's typical M5M in the news they're like oh that was a bad take let's pick it up from the second good take okay clip it there and they just negate that whole part Oh yeah

3:08:11 First we take Georgia, then we take the world. So this is interesting Mo you've done a couple things first you blow my mind Cynthia McKinney did never expected her to come up in this context on this show and I honestly hadn't thought about it in a long time To peg, so obviously this beautiful in the context of what's being discussed now with how this may if this was a rigged election how it may have happened. You don't have to convince me that we're doing it in a dumb manner I like the stick your finger in the inkpot personally but also

3:08:51 Stacey Abrams holding the bag and Georgia being the battleground that with Chuck Schumer confirming it Outstanding work young man outstanding work perfect I Appreciate Adam. It's very good. I like this a lot oh my goodness, and there was be awake for four days now trying to figure this out George everybody eyes on Georgia. Eyes on Georgia and as I always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself Moe thank you so much for another fun filled Saturday, i can't wait to do it again with ya. Same to you Adam Thanks everybody we'll see you next time bye bye Hoover in a Bynum suitcase trying to find a warm place

3:09:43 Heavy rain falling, seems I hear your voice calling me it's alright. A rainy night in Georgia It seems like it's raining all over the world I feel like it's raining all over the world Neon signs are flashing Taxi cabs and buses passing through the night

3:10:40 A distant moanin' of a train Seems to play a sad refrain To the night Rainy night in Georgia Such a rainy night in Georgia Lord, I believe it's raining all over the world I feel like a drain all over the world How many times I wondered It still comes out the same No matter how you look at it or think of it, it's life

3:11:40 And you just got to play the game