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00:00 Outro Working on Labor Day and not even just working, ready to go back to school. Hello everybody! Time once again for Mo Facts with Adam Curry for September 5th 2022 and I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country and we're getting ready to spin The Wheel Of Topics from here to Northern Virginia please say hello to my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen Mr. Mo Facts How you doing, Adam? I'm good. I had a completely different opening for some reason and just let it go. It sounded good to me. Long COVID man that's what going on. Speaking of it has been too long partially my fault again stuff happened. Partially my fault other obligations we got you know... I'll take my share the blame as well but just want to be honest with people I've been securing foundational income

01:02 Due to the transition and now that's over. So thank you for bearing with me facts family And thank you for bearing with me Adam Yes, so but they had to be secured if not my attention would been diverted and that's not good for this show or Non-show life and we always say, you know No matter what's going on is like hey because the show has to be top quality We'd rather wait then just not have it be top quality There's not a, the quality is not an option. And that's the main thing and that goes in there not rushing you to fit inside of a time window. You've had, you know, things you have to do and like I said just securing that foundational income so we don't have to lean on the Fats family as hard because we know everybody's going through it. Yeah, no kidding! It's getting really interesting out there in general since we last spoke. Very much so. I think the price of gas has gone up 20 cents and come down 20 cents. It's like a roller coaster

02:03 Exactly. So, but we have some happenings going on so I would like to give you a biscuit sir for your belated birthday. Oh thank you very much! They always give me a biscuit on my birthday Yes yes thank you Alright so i guess now that we've got good with the facts family and we handed out the biscuits why don't we go spin that wheel of topics what do you say? Let's do it Alright, there it is. The wheel of topics round and around it goes where it stops nobody knows but of course MoFax knows because he's put together looks like another 40 clips for us the topic for todays MoFax with Adam Curry is... Pizza potluck Ah! Yay! Potluck, potluck You know what that means? Potluuuuuuuuck Potluuuuuuck Aaaaaaaah Aaaaah

03:05 Oh, finally. Haven't had one in a long time like maybe six months or so? It's only appropriate we're working on Labor Day while everybody is off so we gotta have a potluck. Yes exactly that's what you do on Labor Day You bring the potluck and all the goodness to the party Exactly So with that said We got to talk about the big rain in Florida The big raid in Florida? R.A.I.D.? The Big Raid, that one? Yes! Number two Good evening and welcome here on this Friday. I'm Mark Wilson, and I'm Allie Corey thanks for being with us. Verse 10 Russian collusion in our own backyard a federal indictment says Russia wanted to cause political turmoil in the US and found a willing partner in a group based in St Pete. The indictment describes a conspiracy of propaganda misinformation campaigns and direct meddling in local elections that began years ago the indictment doesn't identify the local group by name

04:06 But all evidence points to St. Pete's Uhuru House, and today the Uhuru all but confirmed it. FOX 13's Haley Hinds is here tonight with more for us. Haley? Hi Ali, the indictment says that for more than seven years Russia targeted the United States to carry out this influence campaign It says they recruited three political groups one believed to be a Uhuru in Saint Pete They helped fund the group's political campaigns and flew its leader to Russia to form a partnership aimed at sowing discord and mistrust here in the US. Despite the indictment, Uhuru leaders are by no means hiding their ties with Russia. Okay Moe, clearly this is not...

04:47 45 Savages raid, this is something else. Did this literally take place at the same time and this is the first I'm hearing of it? Two weeks prior So still the first I'm hearing of it and Uhuru all I can think of is Lieutenant Uhuru Are you talking about the African leader? No, I'm talking about the lady on Star Trek Oh, is it was that her name? Yeah. I'm not a Ricky. Okay Well, I grew up with the who she just passed away like couple of like month ago or so well hold on now That might have been a total different show if I knew that I'm sorry I'm not a tricky but no we had to talk about this rain in Florida. I didn't know anything This is nuts. Yes. Okay, so the who room and

05:35 is this long-standing African group, African Socialist Party I think they're associated with and they were nabbed or you know at least raided over the involvement with Russian nationals. Wow! This is... Go ahead. No, I had heard nothing of this How did you hear about it? Was searching up, Florida raid That's how you found no agenda to So I was like whoa what's going on here and I fell down that rabbit hole huh but it made me think back to

06:24 the prior discussion that we've had across maybe the life of this podcast about Russian involvement with black liberation or civil rights groups. So were the slaves early on in the free cropping sharecroppers? Yes, yeah yes so it goes back that far as I was like here We are I mean and another standing quote of the show is it starts with us So I think people need to pay attention of how this plays out because i think it's a blueprint for what we saw Joe Biden lay out in his uh yeah right

07:06 In that speech, so I just thought it was a very yeah. Let's dive in I want to know more what's going on? So now we have to go back a little bit to show 74 silly mode And this is talking about Russia has always targeted black Americans one Russia has for A long time been trying to infiltrate this wonderful democracy republic that we have here in the United States of America. And since they started doing that, their entry point has always been the source of greatest value meaning Baldwin said if the black American ever woke up to this,

07:48 Must understand that we are the greatest threat to this democracy from this standpoint That how we go is how this country goes and we don't recognize the power of that right? And what that means is that We from the inside and I'm not saying you know, but this can happen or this should happen Or what have you but based on how we're treated determines the future of this country our reaction to it The Russians have always understood that. So they've tried to come in, they've had various attempts during the first great migration in the 20s and 30s They came in with the Communist Party And they played a significant role of defending civil rights for African Americans, right? A. Philip Randolph probably single-handedly was one of the most instrumental He actually planned the March on Washington he, Bayard Rustin and others like it wouldn't have happened without him but also in labor

08:41 He changed the paradigm and he was working similarly to Martin Luther King with the president in desegregating a lot of our workforce. But the Russians also had a hand in that, right? So I have a question asked you do you think or what is your take on her take of us being when I say us quote unquote black people so-called black people know as being very Influential or I forget the word she used but basically this is the largest point of conflict for America if somehow we could basically be radicalized or because of the influence that black America has on the rest of America through culture you mean like that right yeah so i just wanted to get your do you think that's she's

09:35 Overreaching it. I mean, i'm just curious because I'll tell you why stand so you don't have to go ahead step out in the blind? I think If you look what happened at 2020 with george floyd Yeah, bm one person dying influenced the whole world if somehow the russians could harness that power yes Well, to some degree they did Moe. To some degree this was organized by Marxists No one's really had time to sit still and think about that But unfortunately it seems to be more a problem of fascism where you have corporate America really funded that That's where all the money came from You know there were some big talkers but it was Nike and McDonald's

10:29 It was big corporations who were sending money to very vague non-profits, mainly where their job was to get people out of jail without bail. So that's pressure from above and pressure from below? Because we've talked about it before and I think the last show or maybe two shows ago how the powers that be fund both sides. Oh no exactly! That's kind of the point is like If someone has to fund it, if it was coming... The way I saw with the Floyd riots and Black Lives Matter Inc., that was corporate America. And now you're down in the ESG rabbit hole. So why are they doing it? What is their incentive? It's not even ideologically driven, it's just profit-driven

11:19 And the Russians I think Yuri business business off. I think if I pronounce that correct yeah You said we just started this in the 1950s it's one thing is it's just Just keep people fighting it doesn't matter who wins They just need to keep the stern what they call quote-unquote stirring the pot. Mm-hmm And this is a great way to start apart and so now we have she's this is Karen Hunter and she's having discussion with Drew McCaskill, and he's gonna bring it up to the 2020 election in his next throwback clip from 74 tell me about the 2016 election in the Russians on what you know

11:59 So what made me, like the hairs on my neck stand up when I saw some of the things that you were gonna talk about today is because what happened in 2016 is that and all of the intelligence bureaus have said this right? Even though the administration continues to just sort of ignore it but All the intelligence bureaus said that Russia was very specific about engaging and infiltrating

12:36 black social media circles. So they were very clear on trying to create divides within the African American community in the 2016 election by creating things like anti-Hillary memes, and Bernie circles, anti-Bernie memes Hillary circles and also they were they spent the majority of their of their capital on trying to influence African Americans in social and digital spaces Okay, that's that would make sense. That's where you want to do it right? And this is how a DOS got

13:23 accused of being Russian bots. Oh, of course! Because they are Russian bots and not Ados but the black Twitter is Russian bot and they all know it Right? And so you have this group actually pushing their means or alleged to let me be very clear that are alleged by FBI there are pushing misinformation disinformation through backing from Russians They're open about it as we get deep. I mean they don't make and when you go to their website, they're very pro-russia Mm-hmm Well, that's okay I mean what I'm trying to figure out is You know They got raided but at what it was rated because of a connection to some Russian that the cops were looking for Right right so I guess we can go ahead now and jump into number five And that may answer some of the questions that you have

14:17 My name is Alexander Ilona from Moscow. In March 2022, Uhuru leaders held online discussions with the president of the Moscow-based anti globalization movement of Russia. With help from a translator, The FBI says he spread Russian propaganda. Western propaganda is lying when they say that Russia has invaded Ukraine. This week, that man was indicted by a federal grand jury in Tampa with conspiring to use a number of US citizens as agents of Russia the facts and circumstances surrounding this indictment are some of the most egregious

14:55 blatant violations we've seen by the Russian government in order to destabilize and undermine trust in American democracy. The FBI alleges from December 2014 through March of this year Alexander Ianov was actively working to sow discord, spread Russian propaganda and interfere with elections in the US and around the world Well, this is kind of interesting now. This is a bit of a twist It does answer it because what the guy is saying is at least you know they're very superficial account Is hey? You know this thing in right in Ukraine isn't exactly what you're being told that is and of course That's why they'd have to go after a guy like this because oh that's disinformation

15:39 Right and what he reminds me of but not maybe not to the scale of you watch homeland right? No, I'm sorry. You just watch home man homeland that's like Mr Robot gave us some clues on what the future was supposed to bring Homeland is some interesting stuff in there Listen i had to do The Wire then Man In The High Castle it was just not enough hours in a day! I know so I know you play catch up but if there was a character in Homeland that was basically playing this role of it's really just funding and giving people platforms and I'm letting people know just as simple as hopping on zoom meetings with certain people. And taking funding from certain people can get you in this trick bag oh, Oh! Of course but what iIm trying to understand here was

16:33 What was the goal of involving Uhuru? Was it was the goal of this to have uhuru spread that their disinformation to black America, is it...was that the idea I'm just trying to understand the pieces. I think its to amplify. Okay just use it to amplify Right, I mean, I think the Uhuru were doing this anyway. Why don't they send me a check? But Russia came in and let me amplify it. Let's just send you a check. I'll do it! Oh be easy! Nooo! I want none of that red money no no no no no! That is as easy as it could be It's like hey we like what your doing! Right right right... But it has to be not donations but its just like oh lets make a form

17:18 And they were hopping on Zoom meetings with this guy and it's just that simple. So, right okay. It starts... They were good because they have some influence or what the Russian disinformant is looking to get his inroads into Media social media and ways to spread his message Right, I mean just to so discord. It doesn't matter who wins it's just keep on fighting so That's how this kind of thing works is that really what he was doing? I'm just questioning Oh Just you know big Was that his entire job was the so discord oh

18:02 Well, let's get into some of the other characters and I'll let you make your saying form your own opinion on it. Okay? I don't want to lead you know, I want you to know just I've heard so much Russian disinformation that I'm immediately skeptical okay what is it what exactly was this person doing and with what goal That's my point in all it has to be is... That! It's just that Russian like right Russian and Russian provided information it doesn't matter That's the best that's the low bar. We're talking about now So I just won't let this is the right caught my attention cuz it's like wow, you know even they said making memes Hillary Clinton Making me well

18:47 That's a very low bar. So let's go ahead and get into part three. The indictment alleges he and the Russian Federal Security Service relied on social media, and also directed and controlled three political groups one being the Uhuru movement in St Pete Russia has recruited and forged ties with persons in groups around the world who are positioned to amplify and reinforce Russia's messaging campaigns. They're using Russia as a part of propaganda tool against the people, to turn you away! Uhuru's Aretha Akela Kenyon is alleged to be the candidate Russians were supervising in her 2019 run for St Pete City Council offering consulting and funding at this point Kenyan is considered an unindicted co-conspirator but has not been charged Why take their money?

19:37 Did I ever say I took any money? See, no. No, no, no! That's what I'm accused of. I never said that so don't put that in my mouth. I didn't say that. Look, I don't want to answer your question because you want to take it somewhere and I don't wanna take it there There was also apparent Russian influence in the 2017 St. Pete race for mayor. The Uhuru group seen here disrupting political events, according to the indictment the word reparations was part of alleged discussions between Ayanov and another unindicted co-conspirator who appears to be former mayoral candidate Jesse Neville. Oh okay there you go there's your discord

20:16 Hey reparations, just throw that in. Reparations! Yeah I'll do it But what did the lady say? That was talking to Joy and Reed...I forget their name Ah, ah, I forget her name The one that brought up the black box, the Russian Box Point Yeah they're spreading things like reparations Tangibles So That's all it takes And so Akili Anaya She is a really rich and Shireen Mitchell. That's it Shireen Mitchell Yeah, that's it I don't know if you had to click right off hand but basically you talk about reparations You're talking about tangibles Anything? Yo, that's that's enough discord when you connect that to Russian influence

21:04 The problem is I have like five clips of this, so i'm not sure which one it is That's fine. But people are for me you got to go back? I mean think the show black box covers the whole thing but it does yeah But just basically that's what she listed out. So you asked about uh Akili anaya well she has a couple different names Aretha I think she also goes by Aretha keely um She was the director of the department of agitation and propaganda for the African People's Socialist Party. Oh, nice gig! That's a nice business card to show. Agitation and propaganda people... And I'm not saying she per se is LARPing or when you start throwing those kind of titles behind your name? Right now this is interesting because this brings in the political element and so when I hear

22:01 Russian disinformation meddling. I mean, it sounds exactly like a Trump thing. Hello? The obvious as usual. That's the way you just poopoo. It sounds like something this is how you get half Americans in a trip bag by lowering the bar. Yeah. Oh, you liked this tweet. You retweeted this tweet. Uh yeah exactly You drink skim milk. Is that vodka? That's enough, so this is what I found and I was like this is very interesting especially the timing of it and I have to ask what's going on with the Florida FBI because they raided Gilliam then you have this then you have the Trump raid So what's... It seems kind of schizophrenic

23:02 in a way. Yeah, but you know that means that there's a red team and the blue team you know I think there is just one team it's the money team. The money team makes calls and shots. Hopefully like i said hopefully have your picture entrance because this is definitely a very interesting case so what we had to do now oh the other thing she was running for office Yeah, so I don't know how that works if you're taking funds from a Well, you know someone offered console. I mean the the wolves come in many clothing in this business Consultants pop out of the woodwork everywhere You know This is this is kind of thing we don't have to belabor it but podcast movement was kind of a whole woke fest If you followed any of that they went I did I did

23:55 And it's kind of the same thing as in politics where you've got all these, like hundreds of consultants running around. And here's what they do. You know they find a marginalized group women BIPOC was big this year so a lot of literal Africans who went to Ivy League schools here but a lot of BIPOC And the consultants then, you know they find these companies who are you know they need to check off an ESG box and say oh yeah well that's $200,000 for this series of podcasts. And they take 30%.

24:37 And and just repeat and it goes over and go but that's the same in politics like what they may kill it That's why they don't understand is when you take it from the creators You'll kill it, but then I don't want to braille able to point where we saw this with verses now But remember yeah, no, but it's even worse as they sometimes. They don't even there's nothing to kill they going Get the pieces and put it together and say here's your show tailor-made for your ESG boxes But yes, when it's an actual creative something and you reduce it down to the way the consultants do. My point is, it's the same thing with politics. You get the speechwriter, you get the PR person, you get the media coach... That's why Joe Biden is still president because all those pieces just keep functioning whether he does or not is unimportant

25:27 Correct and in there and then as well as political pundits because there's no doubt in my mind if I chose to Put on the red hat and take you're saying two party lines. I could easily be a CPAC And that's not let's not are you kidding me go? You know, you would be the most welcome guests Oh my god a black podcaster bring him in Right, you know And it's the same way with Charlemagne to God on the other side You see what I'm saying? Like they look for these kind of people that they can package to push their message but the problem is you have to take the Package message that comes with this like here. You could talk about these things That's what actually had a I don't want we can move on But I actually had a whole segment that took out the potluck concerning this now might use them in a later date Okay um but yeah so

26:21 So now we got to go to Mr. Jesse Nevels because that's the guy that was running for mayor, that was associated with the Uhuru movement so let's go ahead and get into number seven My name is Jesse Nevel and I am a candidate for Mayor of St. Petersburg Florida And i'm running on a platform of unity through reparations and economic development for the black community along with Aretha Akela Canyon He's black? Because I can't even tell. No, he is not black he is white. Very. Reparations! And along with Aretha Akela Canyon who is running for District 6 City Council Hey man what does very white mean hold on a second What do you mean? You said very he's white yeah it was very white. What was very white? No what I mean by that is like

27:12 It's the idea he looks like a guy in a picture frame No, seriously. I mean like you know when you buy a picture to have that picture in there Yeah, it looks exactly In the wallet Right He looked exactly To the hair everything is perfect Like Gavin Newsom Manicured Who? Gavin Newsom No no he's more of uh not not Gavin Newsom. He's more of You know how like when a handsome guy puts glasses on to look smart? Yes. It's that kind of thing, you know what I'm saying but and then he plays the woke pocket-I mean he's on point with his talking points, I mean i gotta give him credit but it's just so stark yeah you hear the Africans uh African people socialist party and he's the one you know

28:01 Running for mayor. It's very stark comparison, so that's why I meant by it was not actually Let's start it over my name is Jesse Neville and I am a candidate for mayor of st Petersburg Florida And I'm running on a platform of unity through reparations and economic development for the black community And along with Aretha Akela Canyon, who is running for District 6 City Council on the same platform with the slogan Radical Solutions for Radical Times. We have entered into the electoral arena to represent the interests of the people in this city and to represent the desire of the people in this city to fight back against the status quo. And we're not typical political candidates or not interested in waging a typical political campaign out

28:46 Our campaign is a people's movement to take back the city from big money, from real estate developers, from gentrifiers, from corrupt politicians and basically from you know the corporate elite who control City Hall right now and who control the elections and all the other politicians. I hope he brought your tent then Jesse So all his talking points are on point but there's one problem is that Then this is why I stressed this referring to as atonement they have made and it's been for a while reparations a dirty word Hmm, who was the here? How's me the politicians or both sides of the political because the Democrats don't want to talk about it and Republicans ain't gonna think about it so

29:33 Yeah, it's like plutonium. It's not good. Cryptonomic. Right! I could get behind anti-reparations and some people might be thinking like well y'all talk about reparation all the time...I speak from it from the angle of this great political tension as a way to bend a political party to your desired effect by withholding your vote for your demand. Just like you've seen how amnesty, everybody's like, amnesty would never happen? That was the kind of thing that it'll never happen look at the border now. Do you think this reparations talk still has impact does it still get people's attention do they think or is it more like yeah okay sure brother we'll see It's a huge problem for the Democrats still

30:24 Right, but I'm thinking for black America are they when they hear reparations again? You know. I mean are they still going for Lucy's football with this one well there not speak for a whole group of anybody But of course the way that the way that you're different. Oh that doesn't count So The thing is this though further this message travels And people start thinking like I should get something from my vote, right? It's not the actual reparations that's the problem. It's when people start saying hey i should get something for my vote yeah the quid pro quo very problematic yet that's a very problematic uh

31:11 Yes, ideas for people to be getting something for nothing. Instead of I'm voting for this party because it'll make America better Now everyone's starting to figure out now it's better just to vote for your own pocket It's just like student loans You see the same thing is and that's kind of like when you start talking to people on both sides of the political spectrum They start to clam up for the people that got something out of it. It's like, you know The same people like big government need to stay out of it But then you know that $20,000 drops off your loan is like well You know so it's

31:53 It's a huge problem for this message to spread because it starts getting people to think about becoming politically mature and getting something for your vote that you've been giving away. So both sides have an interest in killing this idea in its womb Because look at like I said once again, look at amnesty. It was talked about for 20 years Like it's that'll never happen That'll never you know, they'll never is there it is And it's chipping and they just kept chipping away, and chipping away, and chipping away. And boom! The borders blown wide open. Oh Moe we never thought we'd have vaccine passports, mandates, lockdowns, curfews... I think that we've departed so far beyond that station

32:46 You know this current group of losership, leadership worldwide. They know how to do it now oh we can make these people do anything. We can do anything but honestly I think they're losing their grabs. I think the people that's bought in buy further in but you have a bunch of quote-unquote normies Like they're waking up and like, whoa. Oh you know I'm not getting up for my vote or hey that's messed up or this messed up are you pushing that agenda idea? So they don't want us... I think people don't know anymore what to do about it

33:27 They've lost faith in, I mean i know what to do about it. You have to start at the local level you have to go back to your city council and your school board this is going to take rebuilding this is not just okay now I'm gonna get something for my vote that's gonna fix everything we're busted brother We are busted And now you see why these two kind of candidates are dangerous Yep exactly You just said you fixed a problem at the local level they're running at the local level so That could be the reason why there you know fight. It's worth a fight this is worth the fight then okay I'm with ya alright, so let's go ahead now and this is Akili she this is what she was running for candidate for City Council And I want you to watch this trick that this reporter tried to play on her To pivot the message away from reparations and how she handles it. It's in two parts Let's going get into part one and eight number eight

34:20 You want to be the next District 7 council person? Well, I feel like my platform, reparations and economic development of the black community is the only platform in this entire race that stands against the black community being gentrified out of existence in this city. The black people right now are under attack by the city government. We're being pushed out by gentrifiers land developers, the politicians in office they work for them they're being funded by them My opponents are being funded by these big developers Rents are going up luxury apartments have been built everywhere no genuine affordable housing and reparations and economic development is the only genuinely progressive platform that speaks to social and economic justice for everyone in this city by ending the oppression of the black community. And if I don't do it, if we don't do this right now there won't be a black community in two years

35:04 Okay, I'm gonna address the elephant in the room. Your opponent Chico, he's familiar He has made statements that he doesn't support the gay agenda as he calls it and he plans to make sure that taxpayers don't go to support gay supported things What do you think about all of this? What'd he bring that in for where did that come from That's-that's the pivot Let's get you off that reparations. Let's start talking about some LGBT. Yeah, okay I'm telling you this reparation thing we've been what and why not in for six years right? Oh, yeah As far as you been know watching what's going on at 2016 election then we started talking is UC It is picking up steam and it's not the point of

35:53 I don't think anybody thinks like, oh if i don't get it my life will be over. It's the point of all you want to come talk to me about voting this is what we want this this is what we want and when you get voters on a single message whether it's guns uh reproductive rights...I mean every group has one kind of thing that drives them to the polls yeah but we need a community organizer Only we could find one So let's go ahead and get into part two and see how she handles this Interesting that he said why did why is it the elephant in the room?

36:43 I don't know. All i have is this clip so it was an ongoing thing his comments being you know inflammatory he had to be the good strong reporter to address it okay Just an elephant in the room, your opponent Chico, he has made statements that he doesn't support the gay agenda as he calls it and plans to make sure taxpayers don't go to support gay supported things. What do you think about all of this? I want to redirect this discussion because i think that this whole thing about you know, this non-factor candidate who hasn't raised any money in his campaign. He's not running a real campaign he is not the person im fighting against In fact as offensive as these remarks are The reality of the elephant in the room Is the oppression of black community

37:32 The media is attempting to divert everyone's attention away to the real fight, which is a fight against these big developers. These gentrifiers that are pushing out the black community they're trying to divide people in this city by making the black community the face of anti-LGBTQIA but that is not what this fight is about This fight is with us and the big money politicians and the big money developers I won't even engage in a conversation about a non-factor when my real opponent, the incumbent is the one that is responsible for opening up the door for these gentrifiers. For people like Carl Nurse to come into my community and push us out. That is the fight! That's what the people are talking about not this nonsense that the media is trying to tell people that it's the problem. That isn't the problem. That is not what I'm hearing when I go door to door talking with people They're talking about their rent going up they're talking about sewage in their water...that's what people are talking about

38:19 Media has their ear to the ground and is actually listening to the people you would know what this fight is about And it's not what this person saying Wow, all right impressive now. You can see why the Russians Were interested in her yeah, and she's easy on us for the thirsty Yeah She, I like how she said it. I'd like to redirect the conversation and went right back to her talking points and now you're not going knock me off my what I'm here for Now with that said, I would never get down on anything socialist so that's where they lose me at because... I don't know... I'm pro-capitalism You know what i'm saying? And with a small c But I think the way civics has been taught, she looks nice

39:14 The way civics has been taught is, you know this is new. This isn't your daddy's socialism this is new socialism where we're just social towards each other You know like social media don't you? You're a socialist I think that's really been pumped into a lot of people It just doesn't jive with me and I think there are a lot of people who think like when they hear words like communist Marxist or socialist it's an instant no So with that said, I think that's where she loses a lot of people and why she probably didn't gain a lot of traction. But on the other hand you can hear that she is polished in her messaging so i could see her being very prized

40:00 Asset person asset now. I wouldn't want to use it. I'll try no for that so many for connotations with it, but yeah of Of the Russians so our alleged and let's be clear alleged asset of directions All right So now we got a where we at? We're 10 okay Okay Yeah Now we gotta go back to their original report and this is the fourth part According to the indictment, the word reparations was part of alleged discussions between Ianov and another unindicted co-conspirator who appears to be former mayoral candidate Jesse Neville. I think all of us that believe in a democracy that is America oughta be concerned because if it's coming down even at local level then our entire democracy is at risk The Uhuru House was one of three locations in St Pete raided Friday by federal agents

40:53 as they collect evidence for the current and possibly future indictments. Today's action should serve as a deterrent to other foreign adversaries that the FBI will not tolerate meddling in our democratic process The other political groups allegedly recruited by Ianov are in Georgia and California. The feds say what makes this alleged activity illegal is that no one involved was legally registered as a foreign agent If convicted, Ianov faces up to five years in prison There have been no other arrests, but the FBI collected a lot of evidence so that certainly could change. Ali? It makes you wonder where else this could be going on and how much of it is going on. Alright, Haley thanks.

41:47 But they've been building on this since 2016 and it's a very I noticed is dangerous slide into from the Russian government, Gresham leadership to Russians. You know it's every Russian we talked about on the show before they're being you know harassed and you know just for being from Russia now to be fair to all this Russia basically kicked all of our non-governmental organizations all of our NGOs out of Russia many years ago, in fact right after Hillary Clinton messed it all up with her great reset button. And because we're the kings of this you know we literally I'll say we United States literally did this in 2014 all the way to Ukraine's Parliament and the president and we meddled in the elections we did all kinds of horrible things

42:42 So we can do that. Yeah, well Can we though? I mean it looks like we're starting to suck a little bit at it whereas the Russians and indeed now I believe with Yuri Whatever his last name is I believe URI's is very sincere in saying oh no We just started this in schools and and it's here It's been here for a while when you weren't seeing it weren't paying attention But this this particular candidate She's captured I mean, she's real captured. I don't know if by Russia or whatever but you just got to put it all together. Look at the classic Marxist training of BLM Inc., right? You look at this and like well, you know the Russians they got a different way of doing it but it's pretty effective

43:28 And they say, because I think let me go back to our article right quick. Because you remember our only answer to that was attacking... You even brought it up! Attacking the Russians in the home well you know Putin's doing this but he's not taking care of you not taking and looking out for you and your COVID and that didn't work Right. So I mean, they try to demonize Putin but i think Russia is on this whole national- This is breaking news! Russia's on this whole nationalist click kick down to the way they look at women They're celebrating women for having multiple Russian children You know? They're owning this whole thing and this guy Alexander Ayanov He was... What was it

44:14 He ran the anti-globalization movement of Russia. Yeah, so anti globalism You know that's gonna become a dirty word Anti-globalism or globalism? Anti-globalism movement of Russia and he one thing they did was promote the California success on succession for United States So hmm But like I said, all they think they need to do is agitate and that's what she heard. It's in her title. She's the director of Agitation and Propaganda so but used to say she was captured So i guess we need to hear more from her and this is a week later after the raid And she addresses the media

45:01 For that, St. Petersburg Florida at the center of an FBI investigation The US Department of Justice is looking into the Russian government's alleged interference in U.S politics including right here in our Bay Area Last week, the FBI raided the Uhuru House home to the African People's Socialist Party. The group has been a fixture in St Pete for decades. Well today 10 Tampa Bay's Liz Crawford met with members of the group they say the feds are after their movement at what they stand for and it has nothing to do with Russia A formal news conference on their terms in their building and a chance to tell their side of the story. They say it's about this thing with Russia, but it is not about this thing with Russia! According to the indictment leaders with The African People Socialist Party are accused of coordinating with Russian government officials over the last eight years Last week FBI agents took over The Uhuru House located in South St Pete So far no one with the organization has out

45:59 outright denied the allegations. We are not speaking to the issues within the indictment because we know that first of all, it's illegitimate Thursday. Uhuru members showed reporters property damage they say was caused by the fence broken glass torn up wood. We saw similar damage upstairs leaders said doors were busted when FBI agents raided the building Hmm that's a real raid. Yeah, that's just a little different than going through Melania's closets yeah That's a raid yes exactly broken glasses doors knocked off hinges day wonder why the difference? Yes, well you know it's That's fascism and that's what you do You scare your political opponents and even though they these people have probably done nothing really directly

46:52 They just invite the whole thing is like, yo political. What is it? Political meddling what does the charge here? It's not much of a trace like okay what are you actually charging this guy with let me see where is it cooperating with Russian officials I think that's government official yeah so that would be a fairer violation and they were in there I guess the Russian officials were enlisted as foreign agents we're We're not listed as foreign agents. Yeah, we're not so that prohibits you from speaking with him? Correct I don't know how that works. No it's a... Half the people in Washington DC do not have FARA registration but they should So its just one of those perfect tools Okay let's go ahead and pick up with part two of this clip number 12

47:43 put together this case that is not fair against our party, against our movement and against the black community. A former FBI special agent in charge told 10 Tampa Bay the Russians look for groups willing to spread their message. They don't really care what party is in power you know what political party is in power here this is all about weakening the United States whether it's pitting Democrats against Republicans or rich against poor or workers against management, it doesn't matter. Preying on the United States through divided states of mind. Literally trying to undermine the... This was really interesting from a media deconstruction perspective so he's saying something and they felt that so necessary for you

48:30 viewer idiot that we're going to insert this bit to tell you what the guy is actually saying. Management, it doesn't matter. Preying on the United States through divided states of mind and that is our interpretation of course literally trying to undermine the confidence, trust, unity that exists in a nation and they'll do it in a lot of different ways and this example is just one of many ways in which they will do And this was the FBI speaking? Yes. Okay, how is it those socialists are being raided under a Democrat president I mean because obviously there you know they're... Is this something local? Well yes yeah that was just exactly what i was gonna say You said it earlier what's up with the Florida FBI well maybe whoever runs money runs stuff

49:29 You know, this is all political. Gillum was political. This is political so who knows? It sounds...this sounds a lot more local but it could be very important. Is this a big county? Is it a big city? There's something about it they're afraid it could ignite more Or do you need the numbers so when you say, oh we found through our investigations We found so and some number of Russian agents. Well that was no headline that sounded good I mean yeah That's why immediately i'm like what is this bullcrap russian disinformation? Okay So that that's that's just what really made me start thinking it's like It's you know are these rogue

50:13 Like you say is this blue flag faction the red faction then down in Florida FBI or is it I think that's very possible Moe. I think that's totally possible, you know, Florida's read So we go after blue and why wouldn't the feds down there be red? And let's not forget this is where Wolk goes to die. You don't get any Wolker than you're saying Russian... Not much, it's about the pinnacle you can't go beyond unless she got a pee tape or something then then you might do a little better So yeah, that's why I want to pick up on just the whole politics of it and why is this happening. They brought up another point that the Ruhu House has a history so now we have to go back 25 plus years, I think is more but its 25 year from this report and there was

51:13 I'm not gonna give it away there. Listen to the similarities that may have happened in 2020 and what happened 25 years ago from this report. 25 years to the day at the exact intersection where he lost his life, people gathered to remember Tyron Lewis. I can't even imagine how my brother would look right now or what he will be doing on how many kids you would have right now? In 1996, Tyron was stopped by police at the intersection of 18th Avenue South and 16th Street. A white officer shot and killed the unarmed 18-year old inside his car. The death splintered the area, the city on the verge of chaos.

52:02 The unrest went on for days with rioting, rock throwing and fires putting St. Pete in the national spotlight. The anger and violence erupting again when the shooting was ruled justified and the officers cleared to show black people that we didn't forget and showed a city we didn't forget on this tragic anniversary Tyron's family and members of the International Peoples Democratic Movement came together to honor the teens memory and continue to organize for change he would have been 43 years old if he had lived to see that. He didn't live to see it, but he was a martyr that now we can take his name to forward progress for black people and fight for progress with the black people. The group has spent years trying to push the city to recognize Tyron's death and pay reparations. Long live Tyron Lewis! Reparations now! They hope their continued calls for justice will save lives and bring about real change in the community. Catherine Hawley Fox 13 News

53:05 Hmm just hit me that just an odd coincidence that st. Petersburg, Florida of course we have I was waiting for you to pick up on that Yeah Tyronn Lewis he was a it was in 1996 when this happened um Kind of like a pre George Floyd yeah Don't remember this at all you remember this I don't know. I don't that's I mean, this is just tell you how a city can riot and for days and it just gets wormholed its memory hold I mean so But that was also kind of you know early days of internet social media etc So you've got to take that into account 96 but 96 was a hotbed of race

54:01 You know, with OJ coming off of the Rotten King thing. It's so weird Mo because that was kind of the height of two of my careers. Kind of at the pinnacle of MTV got out in end of 93 started my radio thing going then I started with the internet stuff took my company public in 1996 was in you know was around, you know? But it didn't register the same to me as it does now that I'm really paying attention. Which says a couple of things if you know what I mean. The main thing is like you said the internet amplifies this stuff which when you add that to what we're discussing... Oh yeah! It's a problem with everything but also if we are smart it could be our way out of a lot of problems

54:54 Yeah, once you start paying attention like we do on this show and yeah start seeing cycles you if even realize it's a cycle or habit Then you can break it. It's like okay More than one of you for sure yeah So let's see, that was the past of the Uhuru House and one of the claims they made I heard in a clip that didn't use. They said they used every ounce of teardrop they had in St. Petersburg on the Uhuru house because it was like ground zero of the protests and riots tear gas tear gas yes Yeah, every ounce so doesn't surprise me So fast forward we have some events that happen prior to the raid this odd decide at least 14

55:45 Well developing tonight, St Pete police are investigating a fire at the Uhuru House after someone was seen on video burning things with a flamethrower. You can see that person in the corner of your screen there. Police say a flagpole and some palm trees were set on fire no one was hurt right now police have not identified anyone involved Was it an Elon Musk flamethrower or a real flamethrower? It was a military grade, quote unquote military grade flamethrower. That's the report! Did you see it?! Did you see this thing!? I gotta see this thing...

56:20 What I had video you probably can see if you copy one of the titles of this this next clip We stopped at 14. So well, they found a guy that would You know That would burn an African flag in front of the pan-african or rule house 15 First in St. Pete, a man is now in custody after officers say he used a flamethrower you see that on the right side of your screen right there to burn an African flag this was at the Yehuru house over the weekend Kenny Raymond from Tampa has been charged with criminal mischief I gotta see this thing. They say it's here, and I wanna see this flamethrower. Oh shoot! The only problem is... oh shoot! This thing does look military grade. Oh man! Can you see Kenny? Yeah, yeah I can

57:14 Holy crap. Kenny happens to be a so-called black person Okay, I can't really see him Yes, okay Why would a so called black person be burning an African flag a week before the FBI raid? Doesn't seem like Like something you do this and it's all he does He gets out it gets out gets the flamethrower blasts the flag and puts it back in his car and leaves strange So now we have Omalie Yeshateli, I think that's how you pronounce it. He is the chairman of the African People's Socialist Party and he owns Democracy Now!

58:02 Appeal the story did this is a bit of a long clip so you can stop it wherever you want to He has a you know, a storied past with you know quote-unquote black rights in that area So let's go ahead and listen to him talk to democracy now about this raid and the prior event to the raid. As we turn to look at the FBI raiding several properties in late July, in St. Louis Missouri and Saint Petersburg Florida tied to the African People's Socialist Party which leads the Uhuru movement The Pan-Africanist group has been a long time advocate for reparations for slavery A vocal critic of US foreign policy

58:45 The raids came as the Justice Department indicted a Russian man living overseas named Alexander Yanov using U.S.-based groups to spread Russian propaganda. The groups were not named in the indictment, but reportedly include the African People's Socialist Party. One of the FBI raids targeted the home of Amali Eshetela, the founder of the African People's Socialist Party. He accused the FBI of targeting his group for their political work. He is joining us now from St. Louis. Can you though go back to the end of July and talk about what happened? Talk about that day of the raid. Where were you? They had already knocked out the windows

59:30 in the house, in my house. They had knocked some doors loose from the hinges. They had come through the back stairwell as I mentioned they used flash bang grenades and the rear of my house plastered all over everything and then St. Petersburg Florida 27 days after they had done what appears to us now to have been a test run with on July 2nd with someone pulling into the parking lot in broad daylight and from his trunk, a car trunk pulling us of military-grade flamethrower to torch the 15 by 25 foot red black and green flag that was on this 50 foot flagpole.

1:00:15 And this had occurred FBI, Homeland Security local police came out They refused to charge the guy with anything except some kind of misdemeanor mischief Dude even owning that thing is a problem. You can't have a flamethrower Oh yes you can! Don't you have stuff some kind of... I don't know but I know pay some stamp duty for it? I mean, I've used one. I heard where you can buy them openly. You can buy a lot of things openly. No, I mean like our own reputable websites they have them for sale

1:01:00 But they only charged him with... Yeah, that's bullcrap. Something somethings up with that. Something is up with that and but the whole thing he just gets out torches it gets back in That's some...that's not arson and that some other type of provocation And how is that not a hate crime? Totally! Can't a black person create a hate crime against another black person No I'm sorry, I'm sorry that's impossible. No, no I don't think that's possible I don't know. It's strange, I mean I just found it to be a strange fascinating story that's why i brought it. Well hold on a second. Did Juicy Mole was that deemed a of course it was nothing but was there ever a charge of a hate crime? No

1:01:53 Yeah, I don't think it's possible. But the reason why I ask that question because you're thinking from that side but i'm thinking more of if you say a quote-unquote person is a white supremacist sympathizer and he acts on their behalf as white supremacy quote unquote the way they use this term You know how everybody this black This maggot basically A white supremacists sympathizing now Could that be seen as a, hey I just, this is a question. Possibly? We're doing potlucks so we might have to throw it out there. Yeah possibly, I don't know. I mean we'd have to have a real world example. It would be very confusing for everybody This would be you know a great example because he targeted that house by the choice of his target the flag

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1:12:17 I heard you had not so nice things to do to one of my members, one of my dear dear members an African Filipino mother that YOU DOXED and thought she could get away with it. Thought we were gonna back down. Thought we're gonna take it That's not gonna happen. You messed with the wrong one this time, yes oh yes you did! Oh yes you did because we don't take it lightly when harm is done to our African colonized women and that's why at Black Hammer we say

1:13:00 Touch one, touch all! And you touched one of us. So now you've touched all of us and we're gonna have to do something about it Oh Man I forgot about this Black Hammer party. Yeah, yes the black hammer party. Yeah, I think there's Gazi is his name Well God he popped back up into the news Oh boy And before we get it says actually what he popped back in news for we got to do a little coverage of what? He was doing after we covered this show

1:13:47 So these next two clips come from him at a rally in front of CNN building. They got a huge Russian flag I'm talking about big Russian flag and he goes on this tirade across these two clips Let's just go ahead hop into number 19 From Atlanta Georgia, the center of the Clinton news now world Yes, or the CIA news network. Or the colonial news network! We are here in Atlanta Georgia celebrating Victory Day and Mother's Day. Mother's day today, victory day tomorrow In unity with the Russians who are fighting against The United Snakes of America They're hiding behind Ukraine A country that The United Snakes of America created a Nazi racist country

1:14:41 You understand? And tomorrow, Victory Day is a victory day because it represents the day that Russia, the USSR defeated the Nazis. And we are anti-Nazis! Are we not?! We are anti white power! Are we not?! Hey, you know this is great. Look listening to this and our a block

1:15:30 You know, this is probably legit Russia. I think you're right! This is clearly not the Democrat party even though some of the messages may agree The message should not be spouted in front of CNN with a Russian flag And we all know that Democrats are anti-Russian That's weird thing like they're pro socialism and political mindset, but they're anti-Russia. They're anti... I think it's really globalist versus anti-globalist Right which was Alexander's name of his group literally Yes right? So i've just found this strange that he popped back up in the news let's go ahead and get to the second clip of uh his victory day speech

1:16:20 CNN has a lot to do with that because it is a propaganda tool the biggest propaganda tool of the United Snakes of America. This thing is like yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. Oh okay now I gotta stop there. Fake news! Say fake news! They lied about the vaccine did they not? That right there proves this is not Republican or Democrat The lied about the vaccine. Trump hasn't walked that back yet A lot of people waiting for that, Mo. It ain't gonna happen I don't think so either. No, I don't think so either. Did they not? Yes they did! They lied about the economy, did they not?! Yes they did! Joe Biden promised a lot to black people and hasn't given nothing Ain't that right? And I believe that they didn't steal that election Oh my God! I believe that they didn't steal that election Wow this is so confusing Now maybe Russia was influencing Donald Trump I'm so confused

1:17:22 Exactly. I'm not saying that he did, I'm just saying this... The confusion? When you hear this message and all these messages it blurs a lot like what are really who am i who's side am on whoa you're saying like well this is clearly I mean it's all Russia I mean this is really Russian talking points although I believe most of them are true yes the United States did create Ukraine 2014 totally The vaccine, the election. We had that discussion... We probably created the damn COVID virus in the first place and then shipped it off to China and then they blew it! Yeah alright I don't find any issues with what you're saying. Thank you all right 21? All right hold on wait so now fast forward from this speech

1:18:15 He pops up, this is when he popped up on my radar again. Yeah 21. Developing tonight we have now confirmed the two men arrested in a Fayetteville SWAT standoff have ties to a group some are calling extremist. Kind of twist to this story Black Hammer members openly say they have an alliance with the Proud Boys which the SPLC, The Southern Poverty Law Center has classified as a hate group Don White's been digging deeper into the Fayetteville connection Oh, hold on a second. This is phony baloney okay I get it these are a bunch of LARPing actors. Which one? This Black Hammer. The Black Hammer's full of crap That was the original question that we had before on the previous show. And what did we decide

1:19:05 We didn't, because when we ended the show it's like we don't know what we just witnessed. Is it LARPing? is it real? It's good! It's well done It's really well done because yeah, I'm like this sounds totally got a thing with the proud boys Okay So this is now the crazy black Trumpers. I guess or you know more Russia be afraid of Russia and Go ahead any allies with what you were talking about with these group podcast groups list looking for talent it's like let me find the talent and

1:19:41 And then I can give you how I'll present it like yes, Akil Akeli She's very talented. Mm-hmm Gazi he's very entertaining in a funny type way yeah um It's and it's just media mo. It's it's just media different versions of But media becomes mal and misinformation. Of course, when you label it that way so did you play the whole clip? No no I had to stop we continue now a captain here at the Fayetteville Police Department confirmed both suspects are part of the Black Hammer Party that's a controversial group formed in Atlanta in 2019 The normally quiet would bind some divisions

1:20:28 with yellow crime scene tape and police cars on Tuesday during a SWAT standoff. We've had our commander in chief, Commander Gazi Cozzo arrested as well as our Chief of Agitation and Propaganda Colonel Kino. Today we confirmed one of the people arrested and charged in that standoff is the leader of the Black Hammer Party he goes by Gazi Cozzo but his real name is Augustus Romaine. A spokesperson for the Black Hammer Party told us today they don't mind being called an extremist group. If we take that with pride, we take that label with pride because that means we're standing in line with those in history who have stood against evil and stood against oppressive systems

1:21:08 Oh no man, they got a bonus if they would be called that. That's what going on here I don't think they are either that or they're supremely ignorant and saying I take pride in men caught in the street. I do not think you understand what special features it unlocks In the justice system like oh yeah? Extremists? Yeah let me get the other book You really want that So I guess we didn't get into what they did as far as the crime Let's get into the second part of this clip, 22. Fayetteville police responding to the subdivision Tuesday after receiving a 911 call from someone saying they were being held hostage when police went into the home they discovered an 18 year old man's body They say it appears he may have shot himself in the head

1:21:54 We've confirmed Romaine and Xavier Rushin are facing numerous charges in connection to the young man's death, including aggravated assaults kidnapping and criminal street gang activity. This isn't the Black Hammer Party first run-in with the police we're going to fight these charges. The way I understand this story is they were holding 18 year old hostage and he ends up killing himself? Yeah that's what it sounded like I don't know how that works. I mean a kidnap victim killing themselves But it's like say is just weird that this popped up This is kind of what you get on the plot No, no ready-made answers I get it I get it but yeah and so in the end Blackhammer was also of course implicated in involvement with What's his face? The Russian? Mm-hmm

1:22:55 What's his name? Alexander. Is that that Georgia group? Yeah, yeah right. Right soon saying yeah that he's the Georgian we I couldn't find out who was in Saint Louis but this is the Georgia wing so that he was dealing with it and I just find it weird a dead body pops up and they're in their house and they get arrested for it is clean up You know, is it time to get rid of? Could be. I mean this is recent though right? This all went down... That's crazy! Alright so I think we should go ahead. Now I hadn't heard any of this. It's irritating these are great stories. I love this. Alright so now we get more-this is 22b and they go in more detail of what the crimes were

1:23:48 We have new information tonight following a SWAT standoff in Fayetteville. In the last few hours, 11 Alive just obtained the arrest warrants for Augustus Romain He's the alleged leader of The Black Hammer Party, a controversial group formed in Atlanta in 2019 he is facing several charges tonight including kidnapping and aggravated sodomy. In the warrants, police say Romaine and another man Xavier Rushin forced two victims at gunpoint to leave the common area of the house and lock them into a garage then they allegedly force the two men to stay in the garage while Romaine attacked them. Romaine and Rushin are both expected to be in court next August 16th They got some cool anti-semitic stuff that they threw in here

1:24:37 Mm-hmm calling Anne Frank a whiny Karen. All right Hmm, but I just find it interesting that They're raping these two people, but the guy kills himself. Well it didn't really say that but aggravated me I mean like yeah and I mean that could be no interpreted a bunch of different ways but aggravated sodomy and the guy like kills himself or did they shoot him? I can never get a clip this is the best clips are found on the subject and nobody really explains

1:25:18 Who the young men were was this kind of like a Ed Buck kind of situation? Yeah, I mean like... I don't see any further follow-up stories that i can find. But I just wanted to touch on these are great kind of like stories that we talked about it previously Yeah, you know one was the Russians your same involvement once again. This is Russian involvement But this is somebody we've talked about and we made it very clear We don't know if they're legit or if there no control opposition And for the story to end like this, I just found it you know something that i wanted to share with uh you and the Fats family. I think is beautiful! I need to keep my eye on groups like this. This is fantastic It's like a whole subplot and- And im gonna say two words, not even meant to cut y'all off but imma say two words since she said keep your eyes on something Patriot Front

1:26:14 Just keep your eye on them. Yeah, yeah well we got a file open up on em! These guys seem pretty phony baloney these are the guys that were in the van? Yes in the U-Haul Uh huh okay yeah well so there you go what we do for real and other countries we LARP around ourselves here against our own people it's crazy mm-hmm It's crazy I like brand new money I just don't want any money around me is not I'd almost rather have a new one than an old 20. That's kind of dumb, isn't it? But there is something about new money that excites you. You like $100 bills? Oh yeah! I like new money too. The most beautiful thing on earth is the 100 dollar bill. I haven't seen a woman as good looking as the 100 dollar bill. There is something about a hundred dollar bill that excites you.

1:27:04 We are just blasting through the show today. This is great! Of course we have our third and final block coming up, which seems to be quite sizable... It's a little longer yeah so... Thanking some more of our producers who came in we do want to recognize Cameron Rose with 45 let's see what Cameron says Mo thank you for another great episode I knew you'd rise to the occasion i really appreciate you bringing more information about the evils of eugenics to your producers yes this was very good First of all, my pushback was about the slandering of Darwin merely on the basis of the full title of Origins. I get a lot of push back on this. This was simply and demonstrably false! Just read the book because some people misunderstand his work as no excuse to tar him with the same brush. Words matter

1:27:50 Well, I read the title of the book and that's where it came from but yeah so you can't judge a book by its title would that be fair to say? In fairness. I did follow up with his other work that had very clear racist, you know Genocide. Yeah, yeah genocidal tone so I mean we can't believe everybody's though Words matter and we do ourselves a disservice when we debase them as the Marxists do no Okay. Yes You've made your point? I think we question everything and were not jihadist about it

1:28:26 As to your question, Moe and your quote from Dissent you are correct. He is using the word race in the modern sense but let me rewrite the quote for the modern ear Hundreds of years into the future Europeans will almost certainly have killed, interbred or culturally absorbed the Paleolithic people of the world. He doesn't advocate or delight in that statement he just notes it as the inevitable conclusion of his own theories and observations given the behaviors of the European... Okay so I think what we're all saying here is he meant exactly what he wrote on the title? Doesn't mean he was a racist however that seems like what we're trying to get to here does that make sense

1:29:04 I can see how they could see that, but I will push back since they pushed back against me and say that you say words matter. And then you reshape his quote for the modern era. Exactly! That was beautiful. But I love your camera. Oh no. And of course back in the day, racism was not even considered racist which is what it was just how you talk, how you were, how you acted we've come a long way And in all fairness, we can't look at it through this lens. I understand their point It's not missed on the camera They say it's very dangerous to look at words through the lens of today Yeah always but my basis is that as you said that he was can you know?

1:29:53 It shaped his thinking and his thinking shaped a lot of other people after him. Now, did they misuse or weaponize uh his ideas? Possibly before and after him before and after him Of course! Great note though Yes appreciate it but you know for sure that title is not something everybody knows unless you go look at it You're like oh hold on a second that's interesting Paul Yassi, uh... 4444 and says please de-deadbeat me. Sure! Congratulations you're no longer a deadbeat $40 from Ramon Lerma keep hitting it out of the park guys we'd certainly intend to Brendan Guzman hey Moe & Adam

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1:31:40 He says, I watch a lot of Japanese films and anime in the original Japanese with subtitles so much. In fact that Netflix started defaulting to the Japanese language track if one was available on English German Spanish language content and I never changed anything in the settings something in the algo I guess keep up the good work yeah oh yeah that is the point The point is the assumptions And this place... That's the easiest algo Oh you look at a lot of this will give you more of that But to just assume that someone wants to see the Black Lives Matter February black history month series of trauma-based entertainment is a little insulting. Because I think that's where the discussion came from. And them thinking who you are and putting this most minute character of color on the cover art if they think

1:32:35 You're a person of color, aka a colored person. So that's the real magic of it! No it's better I think they know what color you are They purchase the MasterCard Visa history and they know exactly what kind of color you are The thing thats insulting is the shit they think that YOU like That's THE ONE I don't think they are because my unscientific experiment is that they give me the white covers. Well, that's what they think you want! Oh, I see what you're saying. It's not about what you are but what you want. Okay? Yeah, yeah now who you are man is that messy Well it's true You know it's true If if you put Mo and Adam next to each other you may make some really strange Assumptions about what we like and don't like and as you and I know we were like a lot of the same things Right. There's just I usually watch them 20 years later

1:33:33 Jared Westcott. Which gives you a good perspective though. It does! Jared Westcott $25 thanks we appreciate that oh what is this in red here? Oh, this is more pushback This is Srinivas Murthy $25 You remember this it involves a tweet but you can continue with the note Okay, I'll read the note it may not have been in good taste to have tweeted my disagreement with the previous show Perhaps they should have held back but it is what it is unfortunately Please stop right there. It just I'll explain why I tweeted it sure in actual show 85

1:34:13 I made a statement saying because I mispronounced, I thought was mispronouncing her name and I said somebody will discredit the whole show off of me mispronouncing your name. Actually made that point and what's in you? What name was it well? I miss pronounce. I think meets Jay. I thought I would need to meet you. Yeah Okay so I mean if somebody say I was saying it right you saying a little different But I made a point on that and say they'll take that in this credit everything. I presented but this was because of a different name Oh, you actually referred to all this Huxley as a dog Yes This is why kind of quick quicker to the second donation block There's a lot of good notes and a lot of good feedback when we love the feedback loop That's what makes the show better. That's value. Value. That's how it works. You send it exactly so

1:35:05 He tweeted and it's not important like I said this that it wasn't a personal thing with us because he actually made some great points And we're saying other things that he brings up. It was just the fact I said someone was gonna do this and He just happened to be the person to do it so it's nothing personal, and I think I said something rude back to him We're not even gonna, I didn't bring... That's typically what I do. I'll let you address that part of it but i'll take my half of the involvement and he got his tweet said yeah go ahead In the tweet he said, who in the heck is Adolphus Huxley? That's who you refer to Aldous Huxley as. At Moe, I mean at Adam and at Mofax. Show 85 referenced him. Wasn't it Aldous? Mofax Allah at last is becoming tedious and full of holes yet again. Say his name wrong! And you said Adolphus?! And I was like, I don't know Adolphus. I didn't know if like it was his cousin or... You know what I'm saying so I was like, I don't know Adolphus

1:36:06 But I'm just saying like you use a mispronounced name to go talk about show full of hoes and then it's not make it personal but address the holes, not the mispronunciation of a name. No, but this is- I've been doing this for a long time. This is very typical in one way that's very atypical in the other. Very typical someone will... You'll make a mistake and then someone will turn it into Once again shows is no good because that's not the fact That's what what people will do but mm-hmm Srinivas then went back and donated so this that's a typical and I got to give him big mad props for that, and I do too because

1:36:52 It's that communicate and that's why I chose me saying to dress the note in a respectful manner and make him understand Understand but I wasn't picking on Now listen to this let me read this note. Oh, shut up Sreenivas you're being I was gonna I was gonna be nice to you now I'm gonna call ya Unfortunately, I disagreed with many aspects of the episode that were clearly a reach doesn't mention any Be that as it may I know, I now know the MoFaxNoAgenda Twitter family is a rabid bunch when someone criticizes shows! That's not just family. That's what cults do sad to see it here Of course, I've learned a lot from other episodes for that. I'm grateful one last thing Adam I spiced up the GF why sandwich? Oh with this special in that's what it I told him to go have one of those sandwiches It was awesome Namaste, sorry Shrini, I got sucked in it and discredited and I did nothing

1:37:55 Well, you know when he says Mo then it's in this case. It's probably just more about the show in general not necessarily you Right but I can understand that borders on racism certainly coming from someone from India or Pakistan or Asia somewhere and then to see a right away accused the black man I gotta tell you that's what cults do. And I think the real issue is it it's not bad, I think the real issue is that Darwinism yeah is a big

1:38:33 Third rail hot button hot button It's the unknown third rail. I mean, I assumed it because it bases people base a lot of their beliefs off of that And they showed up which I could say I appreciate the pushback There's something interesting going on which I'll just let's just touch the rail one more time You know we have the James Webb telescope Up and an action then mm-hmm, and I've been collecting articles and blog posts I haven't really found any published peer-to-peer studies yet, but astronomers are very concerned because they're not seeing what they're supposed to see. There should be red...I think it's called red shift or red phase a red shift? What they're seeing is not an ever expanding universe Let's put it this way there is in general No evidence to be seen of the Big Bang theory

1:39:28 And there's astronomers who are posting stuff like, have we been wrong about this? So there is a lot more to come when it comes to Darwinism or evolution versus creation. It is going to be very interesting time. Throw space in there too! Throw space in their too and you're hearing an antiviral thing, virus is real I think were going into new age of I don't want to say discovery, but revisiting some of the things that we just accept as givens. Well it's going to be hard for people to revisit this one... This is a tough one! And i think that this is maybe why you don't hear so much about the web telescopes like oh shit that's not what we're supposed to see You know? It's dead stars there's nothing growing there's nothing expanding it's completely the opposite of what they said

1:40:22 So, but take notes. Take that and we're not a cult No I'd take yeah it's a little offensive but that's typical That's what people say so thanks for the support to donate you can bitch all you want Yes And well read it gladly Feel free Of course Uncredible trucker $20 and he says as you rightly pointed out Darwin did not come up with evolution only popularized it Western civilization learned of evolution through Western universities who taught of the Greek philosophers that debated evolution They got it from the Hindus of India. See this is why Shrini's all pissed off

1:40:59 You know what, I didn't even read these two notes together like that. I mean because it was...I'll read them as they come in but that's... We can assume just by the guys name that he is Hindu but in case he is no Hinduism teaches that all struggle to physically improve and transform in life also not just reincarnation becomes higher forms of life racism is built into the religion they defend a racist Darwin as father of evolution because that's far easier than defending a racist ancient religion as the father of evolution. I'm uncredible, so pay attention to everything look at up yourself and... I think he wants to finish the line. And the truth will realize it. Yeah, now I got you. So that's interesting. The idea here is instead of calling religions racists

1:42:01 They defender, huh? It's just this is heady stuff. We need to we need to dive more into this I appreciate these notes it gives me something to think about I had no idea really no idea This was going on and I had no idea always touching the third rail I mean that's a cool thing about you announce it with pride like we want to third real night just got Yeah I'll be revisiting in a real though here some $20 from Christoph Smith Great show, like getting the ADOS perspective. Thanks from Chris Jennifer Cato 20 Carol Chase 20 Grant Convy always looking forward to hearing your perspective and bringing up yet another book dad to my reading list Thank You grant with 20 H Garrett thanks for the great discussion on shows 84 and 85 hoped you liked 86 Matthew Weaver 20 Eric Hoff barbs then we have 15 from Eugene SV these are $10

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1:44:17 Alright, so deep well actually a C block but I had like Sarah moodish another short block out of here They're gonna make another whole show out of no. Oh Yeah So they kind of have this light days. Like oh it starts to balloon into a hole in other rabbit holes So we got to talk about monkey pox Of all the things I need to talk about with you its monkey parks i'm all ears and Monkey pops cuz once I started reading into this. I see a lot of similarities of things we talked about before other shows but How the story began?

1:45:00 Do you remember the story of the truck turning over with the monkeys and why nobody's talking about that anymore? We laughed our asses off because this happened like a day before showday on no agenda. It was a dump truck, which is what Dvorak thought it's hilarious when there's an accident with a dump truck And then-and then the lady like she went in and touched the monkey! And then though the whole town was like hey There's a monkey they couldn't find a monkey where's the monkey?! And that was ground zero of The Monkey Pox And the reason why I bring this up is, you know how we always bring up old movies. We talk about Demolition Man and the things that pre-predictive... You know, uh, pre-predictive programming that was in that movie? Outbreak! The actual term outbreak monkey, you know kind of came from that movie it was popularized by that movie where a monkey escaped in a rural area and then they created this pandemic so what I want to do is revisit these next two clips that actual crash

1:46:00 Because it's been erased from my memory. I haven't heard anybody link that Oh no, we were the only ones who did it We're like this is it we're all gonna die. This was before monkey pox Exactly! Well, we were just doing the same thing. Where's Dustin Hoffman? It's all over This is outbreak what idiot touches the monkey Alright, so let's get into the backstory of The direct and then we'll move forward to what I find disturbing about this whole narrative Now to a bizarre story involving the crash of a trailer full of monkeys headed to a lab and a woman now experiencing health problems after coming in close contact with the primates. The woman says she has been put on preventative medicine for the next two weeks, but there are some questions tonight into what these monkeys were being used for and what they could have been infected with?

1:46:57 down in Warren and popped up some monkeys. Michelle Fallon never thought something like this would happen I thought well zoo monkeys you know, i didn't know these were animal testing monkeys after witnessing a crash on a Pennsylvania highway and stopping to help she learned the truck was carrying 100 monkeys from East Africa headed for a Missouri test lab I thought they were like okay like they had their shots are good they've been checked I didn't know they could have diseases or whatever. After checking to make sure the driver was okay, she went up to the trailer full of crates thinking there were cats inside They had this like green cloth over so i peel it back and go stick my finger in there To try to pet it and pops its head open and I'm like oh it's a monkey Three of the monkeys escaped in the crash And one was recovered Two others were put down Man we had this moronic kid

1:47:57 I'm trying to think it was like a teenager in his bedroom. Oh man, what happened? Well that there was just is like hey man It was just like this stoner dude I'm trying to look I'll see if I can find it cuz it's a very funny clip If I could finally I don't want to stop the flow yet So basically she goes pets the monkeys they just go fast forward a little bit She ends up sick And but nobody really talks about it, you know and nobody like I said once this story kind of like fell off the you know that cliff uh-huh Oh, you know relevance. Nobody's revisiting is this a link? You know, um Yeah, yeah, it's interesting how to have no one brings that back up. I totally agree

1:48:45 I'm making the comparison to how we went all way to China to find some bat In a meat market somewhere they say that's the bet you know, but we got 100 monkeys crash three escape two get killed And all of us said we have a thing called monkey pox spreading. Did it attempt it? Um, I call that predictive programming right there is what I saw and So let's go ahead and get into number 25. Three of the monkeys escaped in the crash, and one was recovered two others were put down but the hours-long escape forced health officials to issue an alert warning the community not to come into close contact with the primates because the species commonly spreads herpes virus B

1:49:33 I'm like, well, I was there and I touched everything. That alert leaving Michelle on edge and unsure of what to do her close contact later leading to pink eye and flu-like symptoms. I walked through their poop. I touched their crates. I tried a pet them so now i don't know what's going on As a precaution, Michelle has now received her first rabies vaccination and has been prescribed antiviral medication as doctors continue to monitor her symptoms. The location of the CDC quarantine facility where these monkeys were headed and the type of research that they were going to be used for has not been released but this type of monkey is often used in medical studies

1:50:21 This is so weird. I'm glad you brought this up because we, I remember we brought it up say hey but this was kind of before it was a big thing and now then just became vaccines and men who have sex with men got distracted from where it came but clearly came from gay guys that's what everyone said didn't come from a truck That's what they said We have to go as I went down this rabbit hole, I'm just going to share with y'all what I found. And so fast forward they said it wasn't lethal but then we had the first death in Texas 26 patient in Texas the first reported death of an American with monkey pox The exact cause of death is unknown but the patient did have the virus and tonight there's also growing concern over children getting this stop 31 Did you hear what he just said?

1:51:17 What tonight we have a growing concern over children getting this no, no. No what he said about how the guy died Oh, it's totally unclear if it was from monkeypox Right the guys did the covert thing again? Yeah. He oh yeah. Oh yeah totally he died So this is the first person to die who had monkey pox. We don't know if it's from monkey pox, but the way they frame that is like oh here we go again, here we go again of didn't we learn anything or did we learn something? The analog with the HIV AIDS crisis is uncanny in this and it's from the same people as from the Fauci's and well Burks is no longer there It's the same idea

1:52:04 And he goes, oh no you only get it from sex with men. And then, Oh! You might get it from a towel. Oh which kids could get it? It's sickening. It's the same playbook I'm old enough to remember. Exactly and that's the thing is like don't... I just want to sporadically as we go through this or as they occur let's just point out the commonalities between how they're addressed COVID and how now they're addressed in monkey pox We can continue on with the clip. Yeah, it's exactly the same patient I'll start it over Texas the first reported death of an American with monkeypox The exact cause of death is unknown But the patient did have the virus and tonight there's also growing concern over children getting this at least 31 cases in Children here in this country and ABC's Maria Villarreal from Texas

1:52:56 Tonight, the first reported death of an American with monkeypox. Officials say the patient was a severely immunocompromised adult who died at a Houston area hospital. This patient also had underlying health conditions and had a number of things going on. And I think that additional investigation is needed to know what role monkey pox may or may not have played in their deaths The CDC today stressing that death from monkeypox is rare. Of the nearly 50,000 cases around the world just 15 have been fatal. This is total bullcrap. It's the first day we have we had the first definitely got one with Texas didn't make that wouldn't know what Ebola

1:53:39 The first guy with Ebola went in Texas? Remember that and so it was like, it was live on every single station. The first man with Ebola has been flown in and then they had the ambulance out there and the dude just pops out I'm going in now! It was like what where were the hazmat suits remember they had the people like they had a hazmat suit to one part of the operation and then just some rando dude with a clipboard Okay, good. Oh you bought a man once And where's he at now? That's why don't we get any follow-up? From any of these stories well, where's the not the monkey lady there's no If we can't traumatize people why bother

1:54:27 You taught us that. Oh man, you taught us that all right so uh let's get to the second part of this clip The vast majority of U.S infections have been in men who have sex with other men but at least 31 children have also contracted monkeypox including an infant who was exposed to the virus by a family member and treated at a Seattle hospital The main thing that the patient was experiencing was the rash and complications of the rash And David for children there is no evidence right now that there is transmission within schools so far. Here in Texas officials are reporting nine pediatric cases and the CDC is warning there is preliminary evidence that suggests in children under the age of eight, the illness can be more severe. David? We're gonna have to watch this very closely Maria V. Riall in Texas. Maria thank you I'll be watching very closely anything could happen

1:55:22 How is it and this is a huge question that floats around the internet? How is it that its poppers passed from gay man to gay man according to the narrative But then I'll set all of us up in pops-up in kids and dogs you goggles curry For a while And you're from the future so I mean that doesn't help so yeah, but this is a and it's becoming a You know how those kids got it right? How do you think the dogs got it it was C and this isn't could this be labeled as misinformation amount information or Information oh bad. It is so bad human see monkey kids that they're not even they're not even

1:56:18 trying to discuss it. Like, oh yeah there's some kids... and they just walk right over after they literally said only men who have sex with men and there are some kids! What? I mean they're either leaving it out purposely its complete psyop meant to confuse that's I think your point is well made because this is definitely of that level And another gloss over in a similar fashion was when you had the abortion case of the 10-year old little girl getting pregnant. Yeah, perfect example! Oh yeah... It was... Huh? Let's wait wait wait whoa whoa whoa whoa If that happened how did she get pregnant?! Let's arrest this person No no we don't want to talk about that We want to talk about you know we didn't have had a flyer to another statement but I'm just saying i'll bring that up not to trigger anybody because that's not what I want to do is the fact that they pick and choose

1:57:13 How they want to cover things but at the same time This spell doesn't work on everybody and all it does is make you ask even more questions like how do kids get monkey pox? You know, how did you know how this 10 year old, you know become pregnant and the media's It's just complicit with covering it up. Um which I find very disturbing. Just on that level, like when you get to that point of straight out gaslighting... Let me give you the dog story it's 30 seconds this is a dog story Good morning at 6 11 a monkey... Yeah this is your breakfast hey it's six eleven

1:57:50 Good morning, it's 611. A monkeypox case in France appears to have spread from humans to a dog According to a case published in the Lancet medical journal two men who live in the same household contracted the virus about two weeks later their dog of four-year old Italian greyhound started to have symptoms of its own and Tested positive for monkey pox The couple says it co-sleeps with the dogs Now this is believed to be the first human-to-dog transmission of the monkeypox virus. Yeah, yeah and then they get... Cow sleeps! Then they bring in the doctor the doctor and they said, well so tell us a little bit more about this. You mentioned a little bit Dr. Lippman some of the symptoms we might see in our pets if you can just go over those with us as to what to look out for and then what can we as pet owners do... And she'll talk about this specific dog To avoid any sort of transmission Yeah so symptoms again it's developing but they can be very general So for just like in people I think general malaise being feverish not feeling well not wanting to eat

1:58:52 to having those pustules or vesicles. Again, this dog had them around his mouth and around his anus on his abdomen. And these are signs that again can be so easily overlooked as something else... So you've got a furry guy or a furry gal? That too! If they're not feeling well in any way and you know that they've had known exposure then it's really important to tell your vet so everybody can be safe At no point did they ever say how does that work I thought it was just men who have sex with me Is it now just skin contact? No, it's men who have sex with men. And if they just happen to be around dogs and babies... I mean the whole thing is nuts!

1:59:34 It's there like the bear bears. We really got it going on and they'll normalize it yeah, and in kind of here we are yes You don't ask any quick right around his mouth mouth in his butt no but No questions no questions we got no questions damn ground how great how was a fast enough? But um let's go Yes, so now we got to go back 69 operation affection because this is talking about the media disinformation how they accuse the Russians of Weaponizing a story about age trying to kill black people So we gotta I want to revisit that these next two clips Because they talk about what we're talking about here at the median How they plant stories and that kind of thing. So it's going again first in the 28th

2:00:33 OK, so to start let's go back to July 1983 and all the way over here New Delhi India. This is when a remarkable story appears in a newspaper called The Patriot It claims the HIV virus was secretly created by US government scientists as a weapon to kill African-Americans and gay people It even names a facility for Dietrich in Maryland where the virus was supposed to have been concocted. It's a crazy allegation printed in small newspaper, no big deal right? But fast forward just couple of years and look what happening! The story is spreading all over Africa

2:01:14 A scientific report is even published by two East German biologists who say they can prove AIDS is made in the USA. All these articles are from just a few months at the end of 1986 and then somehow it ends up here A Soviet military publication claims the virus that causes AIDS leaked from a US Army laboratory conducting experiments in biological warfare. That's Dan Rather reading a fake news story to millions of unwitting Americans on national TV, but don't be too hard on Dan this was one of the greatest cons ever carried out on a global scale and we're going to show you how it was pulled off Where is this from again? This was The New York Times

2:02:00 It was the Operation Infection because you remember you were looking at operation infection from it was one of our greatest podcast moments in the history of this show Because I didn't know you were walking down that rabbit hole And I know we crossed paths on the operation infection cuz that was something new that they're using. Yeah, um and I looked at it from a historic standpoint From the 80s and 90's you mean? Yeah, from the 86 report. From Dan Rather and... And how like I said it seems very plausible now! I mean when you look back on history it is kind of like what we do why would we do this show because It sounds crazy at that time but all came out our lab in America But now if you look at it like That's very believable then you can look forward with The Monkees Right well just but look at COVID with gain-of-function

2:02:52 The research which was being done in the United States and then was illegally outsourced and shipped off to China So it doesn't mean that they didn't screw it up accidentally or purposely. But yeah, I mean we discovered although It only was for a brief moment in the news cycle that the Department of Defense of the United States Has been operating multiple bio labs in Ukraine Does it get any crazier than that? So, you tell me. It's really disappointing you know it's like oh so we're actually could also be the a-holes yeah for sure but it's okay it's fun to blame Russia and they got their own tricks they're not bad they know what they're doing

2:03:39 Right, I mean we're gonna get to possibly some of their tricks. Let's go ahead and get into the second part of the Operation Infection throwback clip. The KGB let the story go quiet for a couple years after India but with AIDS still making scary headlines in 85 they revived it this time in a prominent Moscow newspaper And the source for this story? You guessed it It's brilliant really, they've repeated the story but concealed their hand distancing themselves from the lie they started. So we're now into 1986 and the KGB want to add gravitas to this lie. They look around for a scientist, a human face someone who could back up the lie with data and no joke this is the dude they found! This is Dr Jacob Segal remember I said The Report had two authors? Well here comes the co-author now it's his wife Lily

2:04:34 Believe it or not, these two wrote that report that claimed to have evidence AIDS was created in a US government lab. This scientific gobbledygook and you know you read this stuff and who can understand it but it purports to be proof But the thing is, it worked. The KGB made sure the Segal report was read by journalists all over Africa and they kept on pushing it until it went... well viral! It appeared in 200 reports in 80 countries even the Daily Express in London runs with it And finally on March 30th 1987 The KGB hits the jackpot A Soviet military publication claims the virus that causes AIDS leaked.

2:05:31 Right, and then you add a little magic in there and there you have it. You know? You have a whole worldwide pandemic. So I'm gonna... this two throwback clips is going to lead us in two different directions one which I'll cover second is the media planning stories for use later on and that's kind of how they said that they- you always mention this about the CIA or put something In a foreign newspaper. And then they'll reference back to that? So we're going to cover that second, but the first part is how AIDS was disproportionately and even targeting black and gay people. Well fast forward monkey pops is now disproportionately affecting black men

2:06:16 A new report shows the monkeypox outbreak is disproportionately affecting black men here in Georgia. And right now, the FDA is working on a new strategy to stretch the vaccine supply as we see cases jump by the hundreds week-to-week. Week-to-week. We love it alive Joe Ripley's here to explain why this new guidance is especially critical for communities of color Joe today we confirm two employees within the Fulton County government have tested positive for monkeypox. They are currently in isolation, the virus spreads through close person to person contact as well as respiratory fluids today we dug into the disparities of the disease when it comes to people of color Georgia currently has the fourth highest number of monkey pox cases in the country state health officials say more than 80% of cases here are in black men and yet the vaccination numbers show almost an even distribution of vaccines to black and white Georgians historically And today We

2:07:08 consistently see that these are communities that receive less health care, less access and have less trust of the healthcare system. Dr Jody Gast vice chair of epidemiology at Emory University's Rollins School of Public Health says there is a sense of urgency to use what little vaccine supply the state has on hand to respond to the current outbreak. I don't think we are yet at a spot where we would say, We have a handle on this. We need to consistently get the messaging out about prevention who's most at risk and we need more vaccines to give them to communities that are highest risk. Well I demand an update to the news story it should be black men who have sex with men

2:07:50 Or men that have sex with black men. I mean, like... No no hold on because she said if i understood the story magically even though vaccination rates for black and white men in those communities are equally the same we have more black men with- If I understood the story right? Well it's a little different than how she said it that Black men are being affected by it, but the vaccine distribution is equal. So you're getting more effective people who are actually less vaccines than they need. I have warned against this so many times in the past months What's that? To pay attention to what is going on, they have a magic solution Monkeypox it just like a name You know it's pox or small pox all these variations The vaccine has not even... They don't even know if it works and they admit it

2:08:51 Let's go get another vaccine. It is even worse than that because as you heard them say the supply is low so they came up with this great idea to make the most of the supply they have and you'll hear that in 31. The fight against the monkeypox virus, the US Health Department officially today declared a national public health emergency for Monkeypox George Sure did. The new state of emergency allows for a stronger federal response. Monkeypox has infected more than 500 Georgians and over 6,600 Americans Today's declaration means more money and resources are coming from the federal government This is thousands of people in the US deal with fevers body aches What was that infl- From the U.S. Government? What was that all about?!

2:09:37 Mmm, that was an interesting little influence. I don't know why he did it It's coming from the US government! Oh Uncle Sam to the rescue! I don't know what he was saying. Which means more money and resources are coming from the federal government. Wooo! That's right 30 billion. 13. 30 Billion... What? I said cha-ching. Yeah, big cha-ching and it's like folded up with 13 billion more to Ukraine yeah we need 47. It's for COVID and monkeypox and... And they're gonna get paid to run ads you know in public service announcements. Moe, I'm telling ya, we can clean up if we do the fault. If if we were shitheels

2:10:21 We could go together, it'd be perfect. Ebony and Ivory. Look man clearly we have the in to the black community right so if you want people to learn about the monkeypox vaccine you will hire Mo Fax with Adam Curry and we'll make sure your message gets out to the right people yeah it would be perfect Yeah, I'll take 30%. And now you hear why he was like... Now you hear him saying, ooh! Ooh, more money. More money? Probably yeah, yeah, you're right probably because oh well then i can probably do some more gigs and promote it. People in the US deal with fevers, body aches lesions and fatigue. And now we're hearing from the first woman to contract monkeypox in Georgia Channel 2's Audrey Washington live at the CDC in DeKalb County. Audrey the woman believes she somehow contracted the virus at work

2:11:10 Right, she's a cashier so she believes she contracted the virus by touching money and then touching her face. She told me she is coming forward with her story because she wants to educate more people about the monkeypox virus just a warning some of the images you are about to see are graphic I'm in the healing stages as you can see like my face is starting to scab up It has been about a month and Camille Seton is still recovering I waited on the results It was positive. I had monkeypox." These are pictures of the lesions that started to form on Camille's face Thursday, the Biden administration declared monkey pox a public health emergency According to the CDC there are more than 500 monkeypox cases in Georgia Infectious disease doctors say those currently impacted most by the virus are gay or bisexual men But doctors also say that anyone can contract the virus through close contact

2:12:07 Camille is a cashier and believes she likely caught monkeypox at work. Yeah, so I heard enough of these stories now that oh an exception! A woman? Oh a child or dog? And of course you know like everyone else on the 15 year old like dude what were you doing with it with the dog However, I think there's a very distinct possibility knowing that when they say men who have sex with men they're very... and we've done the research in this. They're talking specifically about men who go to big orgy parties and have weekends like Fire Island and you know they're messing about multiple sex partners. There are already vaxxed and boosted into the gills. They may have weakened immune system because of that

2:12:50 I'm still not 100% convinced this monkeypox isn't a virus at all, but could just be an expression of something that's coming out because your immune system has been altered. And it would be perfect just like HIV which i have very set opinions about. The HIV hit double hard with the 70s and 80s partying gay group Because they were doing poppers and coke and probably still are. Multiple sex partners, it wears you down I've spoken to many doctors who said HIV if i can give you super vitamin C for two weeks should be fine But instead they gave them rejected cancer drugs And killed people So this to me...I am not so sure that this is an actual virus This could just be something that you may show

2:13:42 if you've under the right circumstances of being, you know, your immune system being tampered with. That's one school of thought so I'm going to bring up a couple items One We have to always keep in mind something we've talked about in the show, the down-low brother. Or the quote unquote down low brother is a gay man that goes back and sleep with women either... And what we call down low is secretly they're secretly gay so could that be a way that they introduce this into their heterosexual population because this is how AIDS made the jump? Yeah again

2:14:24 I just... Well, it's assuming that it is a virus and not a response to... I can't... That's why I brought that up. No, no, no! I can in any good conscience even consider that any of what we were told about AIDS was true or monkeypox or COVID or any of it and you know so when you get into its making the jump then you're already presuming all these things like yeah Is it a sexually transmitted disease or not? You know, no one's even answered that question. Right they always skirted and like oh you know you can get it through close contact but they never say sexual intercourse If anything this is we really don't know I mean we really don't have the information and as we know the science can change within two years if it's advantageous and your vaccines don't work. These are just stories

2:15:17 you know, how did this poor woman? Did she have a down-low brother?" I don't know man. And by the way... What's she said? She got it for money! That's what she says. We saw that from COVID too remember that was the all COVID spreading on money so once again.. But I would wager we'd have a lot more white women getting monkey pox if that were true. I think there is a lot more down low white brothers than there are down low black brothers Right So i'm just saying and what i'm just saying is We have to look at all of this history. It's in Atlanta, high gay population... Totally! That's kind of how AIDS made the jump over from being a gay disease into being a majority now predominantly black woman disease I mean when you look at the AZT commercials it is either a black woman or a black trans woman Not AZT, PrEP. PrEP. Man not PrEP we see them as PrEP. AZT is what killed everybody

2:16:15 Right, so I'm just saying so when you look at that it's like okay. They're just I'm just showing what I found along my rabbit hole hard to say and Because you can't go by commercials anymore. I mean they're advertising with stuff With black people for everything you see it I'm talking about the historical ones. It was always still a combination, it was like white man and gay man, then there'd be black woman And then it'll be either a gay black man and then a trans black woman. That was kind of the makeup, and you got to get... You could opt out one of the white guys with a brown guy? I mean that was kinda the formula. And I'm not being flippant but that was the actual true formula of these commercials. I had this thought the other day maybe it's yesterday or the day before

2:17:10 You know, because I think obviously we've been through the eugenics. We see genocidal tendencies, eugenicists... We know where it comes from. Mercka foam finger number one. Oops! That's Hitler guys taking it too far. Tone her back! But it's still kind of there. I think it is possible that none of these people are truly evil, they don't want to be personally responsible for killing people but the idea that all these different things put together Wear down your immune system you become weak the gene pole becomes weaker Sperm becomes less potent and just slowly just slowly We're kind of melting away, and they have all these different little things and they put names on them But it's really just you know

2:17:57 They've debased our money, they've debased our food. They've debased what health care actually is... Quality of life. You know education so we shouldn't be surprised that you know this is just another part of it and I think we're just being led around by the nose for most of these things like oh virus put a mask on do this if monkey pox Oh monkey pox! You can't really get into it. It has to be sexual contact come on And to be honest with you I am probably, you included. We're probably the least two likely people to catch monkey pox out of the whole population because we're married and monogamous men. And we didn't take a shot if that's what... If that's a part of it? You include that as well but I feel it my responsibility to present what I found Sure! and I was 90% where you were at but Uh-oh

2:18:52 I'll tell something to make me start your question. What the hell is going on here? So first, I said the last clip up wrong because I said that was gonna explain about the vaccine That was actually the women catching it now Via money, you know, it couldn't be the doubt they could use a download brother You're saying excuse yet but now its money and it's like whole like Okay, I don't know how that works. But um and the other question is should strippers be worried in Atlanta's like the strip club Club Capital. That's right cheetahs if monkey pots can flow on dollar bills Well, they did this remember that's why we don't have any cash in most of the world now after COVID. China showed all these pictures oh we're destroying disinfecting the money it's dirty money and all over Europe people went 100% digital no cash yeah exactly so I mean it's a lot of narratives being weaved into this... All the elements

2:19:52 So this is CBS News Dr. Isaac Bogoch, let's see He's gonna explain now about the vaccine and the new sophisticated system they're using to make the most of our vaccines that we do have. Dr Isaac Bogosh back with us, to give us a primer in this an infectious diseases specialist from Toronto good to see you dr Bogosh welcome back Thank You great to be as well Heather Let's help us understand this doctor Bogosh number one what is monkeypox?

2:20:31 A monkeypox is a viral infection and it's endemic to parts of West Africa and Central Africa. When it is not infecting humans, it lives in rodents and this is what we call a zoonotic infection where it can jump from non-human animals into humans. And as you point out there have been outbreaks uh in west and central africa and once in a while a case has been able to get someone who gets on a plane fly somewhere distant and there have been cases detected over the last few years periodically in Europe or in the Americas, or elsewhere around the world. In Asia and occasionally those result in onward transmission to a few other people but what we're seeing now is a much larger outbreak than what normally happens when a case gets exported from Central or West Africa

2:21:23 Oh, okay. That's interesting. Once again I did a poor setup this is when i start to gain ask Is this gain of function? Because or Or is it you can see from where you stand and like I said I was on board with you 90% of You know maybe its response the people that were vaccinated you know compromise immune system you have just flare up you know that kind of thing but he said that one what troubles me as rats Rodents, it travels through rodents. So we got to keep that in mind where I'm going with this but then too you got the rats and then you have the... It's spread that easy now all of a sudden is exploding and even here are cases like 50 to 500 to 5,000 is like whoa! It shouldn't spread this way Is this gain-of-function?

2:22:22 Or if it's not the way you see yeah, or whatever. What is it? Just what is it right and why is this spreading? Uncommonly like it typically would you know this these are questions that we need to ask so um Where do we stop it with 3033 is next Okay, let's go see me make sure I said at 33 no no no no Did I miss one? Well you are covered that you already covered it 33. Oh with the dog right because we're like the rodents dogs So he goes on to explain how

2:23:03 I mean, monkeypox is not the same as COVID. Some people say it's similar to chicken pox. It is and it isn't. With chicken pox when you see those classic skin lesions emerge they're of different ages so some are erupting at the same time that others are receding and scabbing over With monkeypox, it's similar to an infection that has been eradicated from planet Earth. It's similar to smallpox in that the lesions typically are all the same age. They'll usually erupt mostly at the same time and they'll roughly be at the same level of development. And fortunately, the vast majority of people will recover from this and we'll do just fine but there obviously can

2:23:45 people on the sicker end of the spectrum. Luckily that's a minority of cases and so far to date we haven't heard any people impacted by this that have had more severe illness but, but of course you know it can happen. It makes me ask... So its gone from animals to human what we know about the cases in Montreal is these were cases reported bisexual transmitted infectious infection clinics awaiting final confirmation but they were the clinics that flagged this and it seems to be in cases in Europe as well gay men, bisexual men who have sex with men. As far as transmission what do we understand about how its transmitted and could there be a sexual transmission component to this? You know it's interesting he brings up chicken pox which is another pox because one of these side effects of the heart dart

2:24:38 is shingles, which is another form of chicken pox. Correct So this could be all kinds of stuff but okay now we're going to learn about it Is it a sexually transmitted disease? This is my question And before we get there I have the observation and this just my personal view on it If I didn't know what was going on or have a clue what was going I about to say smallpox, monkey pox wouldn't have to kill me to make me scared of it. Just catching it. Sure you see what I'm saying? It's like a non-lethal but just as effective because nobody wants that. I mean COVID you can be like oh I'll catch COVID and I'll beat in a couple weeks and drink some orange juice and I'll be alright. Monkey pox eh thats a little different story when we talk about I'm covered with

2:25:34 large pus field. Oh yeah, oh yeah and it takes three to four weeks before they're all gone it's nasty I've done some research it's not pretty so you say what is this not non-lethal but it just is scary? I think the whole thing you know all of these things are intended to be just such this is a perfect one And I think it's kind of being downplayed maybe purposely a little bit, but it has to work at a psychological level on almost everybody. Yeah, me included! And I'm probably one the more rational people that you want to meet and I believe so... But still in the back of my mind, I don't use public toilets anymore

2:26:22 I mean, no. I can't take that risk! And I'm just being honest with people so it's working. Of course Well, and you get a good amount of money. Go back in your house! This is an ongoing agenda Did we miss the polio? Polio coming back We had that in New York City That's kind of gone a little bit now because Orange Man bad raid Polio...we had tomato flu

2:26:59 in parts of the world. Tomato flu, it's a real thing! You don't know about tomato flu? No, you got me on that one. Here I have... Even as the spread of deadly COVID-19 virus still prevails across India The threat of another virus is now threatening the masses According to latest report India has reported 82 cases of tomato flu or You see? I'm not messing around Tomato Flu So that monkey pox hit different though. I'm just saying, it's all psychological move we could throw a million things Oh where's HPV? We should need to be bringing that back oh you get cervical cancer throat cancer remember Michael Douglas yeah he got it for my wife you know what I was doing this is

2:27:54 I have distrust in all of that. I don't want any of it, I hear you but i'm very distrusting of what is real? What is really going on here where's it coming from? Is it really a virus what's happening? I have the same questions that you do but I just had to be honest in the back of my mind yeah well it's working! You know you wash your hands a little more. You know, like I said, I don't use public bathrooms anymore. I mean you changed me personally make sure you're saying I'm going to have a be able to make it home and say leave home and make it back home before I had to use the bed because it reminds me of AIDS in that same way only on use public bathrooms. You know saying that kind of thing with AIDS there you go cuz it's working being in this vain society that we lived in this is worse than COVID

2:28:45 This is you see you got yeah, you got sores on your face. Yeah that's bad for months You can't hide this or a couple days and I know I'm just gotta be honest with you guys like the monkey pots got me sugar. Oh Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, I don't think you have to worry Oh, okay. Let's see if you say that by the end of the show. Okay! Not to scare you not a traumatize you in any way but... I'm ready If you knew what i knew number 35 he gonna follow go ahead 35 As far as transmission what do we understand about how it is transmitted and could there be sexual transmission component to this?

2:29:31 Right, so this is very interesting as well. So we know first of all let's acknowledge that there is not a ton known about this. This what we call neglected tropical infection or neglected tropical disease in the sense that it along with many other infections that plague low income countries there just not a ton of research on this but there is some and we do know something about this based on some of the outbreaks from the past and some We know that people can get this by direct contact with some of the lesions or direct contact with bodily fluids from infected people, from close contact with individuals. So being in close proximity for a prolonged period of time and there are still more distant infections those don't seem to be the majority but that certainly can happen

2:30:19 When we talk about people getting this infection through sexual contact, what's really unknown is was that just because of close and direct contact with the lesion or was it actually sexually transmitted? Before we completely discard the sexual transmission... I think it's fair to acknowledge that Ebola virus recently was found to be transmitted through semen. Zika virus as well was found to be transmitted through sexual means, so I think it is fair to keep an open mind on that mode of transmission but based on what we know close proximity is the main mode of transmission." Now that's kind of weird because he's like oh we just found out if you have sex you can transmit it seems like that would be case if you could get from touching

2:31:05 And that's why I wonder what their definition of sexually transmitted, it does like the bodily actually sexual fluid carry it? You know saying like that kind of thing instead of just...I hate to be graphic but like the pustule erupting and then contacts your skin and then you catch it. Because that was kind of thing like because my grandma, I don't put it in your mouth you get AIDS in the mouth. You know what I'm saying? Like that was... Who said that to you? Your grandmother? My grandma! I remember we were little like I had a habit of chewing pens. But hold on, what was she telling you not to put in your mouth? Pens. Oh, okay. I had notorious habits by... Hey easy. Uh... Hey hey hey hey! I uh.. I had a notorious habit of chewing pen tops and I remember this when I was little like five six years old so that would be 85-86

2:31:53 She was like, oh you're going to get AIDS in the mouth. And that was like I remember so... Thanks grandma! Yeah so that brought me in my habit of chewing. But now I used to chew pen caps and my mom would say don't do that because if you inhale it you'll die. I got that one as well. Because it gets stuck in your throat and then you won't be able to breathe yeah So I got that one. I never got the AIDS one, man! I got gypped...I should have been threatened with AIDS that's cool. So he brings up this you can- Grandma Yeah grandma like grandma nah she was like baby get that out your mouth you gonna get AIDS in your mouth and it was like okay grandma all right AIDS no wonder you're traumatized Mo come on i get it this is that's bad man The reason why I'm traumatized is the bumps man like that's

2:32:39 Like I said, mentally you can make the jump and say you know what COVID? I'll be down for a couple days. I drink some orange juice, maybe take some horse pace. I'll be back up but being covered in huge pustu- oh no! Oh nah like... No your life's over. You can't go out until that is done And then how you explain to people like where have you been for the last couple of months? A spa, a spa. And then they still have the heal and even if it healed do they leave more... I don't know but this is like I said this well can i ask you something? This is good one! Let me ask you because yeah now I haven't actually thought about it this way I have zero fear of this zero um but is part of your fear because

2:33:26 The obvious symptoms would probably point to you being a down-low brother? Would that be part of it that could be part up very more mine is vanity Vanity yeah, and that's why I think is very effective on this vein Society social media picture is this coming from the guy whose face I haven't even seen but okay It's not a vanity. Like I'll be ugly it's the The stigma that comes with it like yeah, have you seen these people? I mean, it's a play I mean, it's like a biblical plague doesn't level. It's not pretty I saw video of flight attendant and

2:34:08 And he was I don't know where he was but he was not home and he had to stay in a hotel room for three weeks One because apparently contagious, and I think two is like. He just didn't want to go out looking That's my point. Yes. It's the so cuz like you remember how we were talking about with It's a lockdown it's a self-imposed lock down there you go yes, and and you'll be more willing to lock down if it becomes a tenth, a hundredth of what COVID was. It's like I'm staying in you know? Like hey...I need work from home! Uh uh i need door dash! Okay so the interesting thing is that you bring this up because I was going down this path and after the dump truck and then the pox I'm like are you kidding me?! This is their next thing

2:35:04 They haven't used it effectively because this all leads towards climate change is where it has to wind up. That's where the money is, there's you know at the pharma guys that had their fun with COVID vaccines This is being used but I'm not sure It's gonna go to the full extent because climate change is a lot more fun You know? It's a hot day and then and you tell everyone that you'd start turning people's thermostats off. I mean come on So true. And now what is happening is, oh because of climate change that's why we have more viruses like monkeypox you're going to see a lot of that I think That's one way it's going to be used but I don't think It doesn't feel like another COVID style terror streak It has to be climate change That's what they're doing That's what they shut down Russian gas and oil for That's why Europe

2:36:02 I'm laughing but my daughter's there and she was paying 200 euros a month for gas and electric. Now they want 800! She doesn't have that kind of money Who does? Right. I mean, who does have a 400% instant increase in your energy? That's just crazy! So that's where they're going and it's yes the tipping point is Putin but it's oh no we got to get to batteries and solar panels and we can't do with killing the world so... When if I told you there was opportunity for a twofer would that interest you? Can I pick your interest on a twofer? If you got a twofer best price I'm interested

2:36:45 All right, so okay. Let's see The last doctor was saying that you could catch it through respiratory terms had you heard that before I Think might have briefly but then for a moment there people were talking about masks I think but that went away as far as they know what that went away Okay, that sets it up perfectly for the next one confusion over the monkey pops mask guidance The spike in cases comes amid some confusion over CDC mask guidance. The agency appearing to post guidance on its website saying international travelers should wear a mask to protect against monkeypox, that guidance no longer on the CDC's website instead the agency urging travelers to avoid close contact with sick people, contact with dead or live wild animals such as small mammals

2:37:38 Avoid eating meat that comes from wild game or using products that come from wild animals from Africa, such as creams, powders and lotions. And avoid contact with contaminated material. We know that you can get it from skin to skin contact, particularly if there's an open sore. But you can also get it from the respiratory route Now, as we mentioned monkeypox can spread through respiratory systems but it's different from COVID-19. Monkeypox spreads through large droplets which don't travel more than a few feet so requires prolonged face to face contact still as always officials are urging caution for people traveling especially internationally

2:38:24 Finally, something that the mask can't stop and they say no mask. I mean literally! The large drops is the whole purpose for the mask and they're like nope nope nope no mask Yeah, yeah. This sounds like a smell like a setup to me bro. I'm with you all the way on this. I just don't know if it's still gonna... If they're going to unfold it and more is coming or if it was just one that didn't quite work the way they wanted to Again, I'm waiting for the twofer because if you could move monkeypox into climate change your golden Well, it's not climate change but it is some other foe that we have. But let's continue on... I'm just saying that That's just weird wear the mask that will work against large droplets people spitting on you that kind of thing No, of course! It would be completely justified to say yeah use masks but they did the complete inverse of what you thought they should do. It was like no take the mask down. It's kinda like the Fauci thing oh you don't need a mask

2:39:26 all over again. Or they want to make sure that the right people are wearing the mask True, that's another thing but or if you know it could spread through droplets And you know, let's not use masks so we can get this thing going. I mean it's taking a little longer than we expect to get. We need cases." They could have at least pointed out that yes, a mask will stop someone spitting in your face they could have pointed that out yeah i agree but they take it off the table why? Why when it actually works ultimately transmission mode ultimately the final answer which will always be the same answer they want to kill us

2:40:06 They want less of us. Ultimately, you have no gripes out of me on that. Ultimately that's the answer. That's the final answer. Okay finally I misfired on this twice already but now we get to the high-tech rollout of a vaccine from the Joe Biden administration is gonna stop the monkeypox spread Back here at home tonight, the White House is rolling out its new monkeypox vaccine strategy. This weekend focusing on LGBTQ plus events trying to get shots into arms and health experts are now raising concerns about the potential spread of the virus on college campuses this fall Here's ABC's Phil Lippoff I need to ask you when are these clips from the past week? Week and a half two weeks What are they more or less

2:40:06 They want less of us. Ultimately, you have no gripes out of me on that. Ultimately that's the answer. That's the final answer. Okay finally I misfired on this twice already but now we get to the high-tech rollout of a vaccine from the Joe Biden administration is gonna stop the monkeypox spread Back here at home tonight, the White House is rolling out its new monkeypox vaccine strategy. This weekend focusing on LGBTQ plus events trying to get shots into arms and health experts are now raising concerns about the potential spread of the virus on college campuses this fall Here's ABC's Phil Lippoff I need to ask you when are these clips from the past week? Week and a half two weeks What are they more or less

2:40:51 I would say no longer than a month other than the truck crash. Yeah, because there was a bit of flurry of activity maybe two weeks ago...a lot of monkey pox clips! The White House today rolling out a more aggressive effort to quash the monkeypox outbreak targeting large LGBTQ events across the country. Vaccinations today offered at the Pride Festival in Charlotte, North Carolina. The CDC finding that 93% of cases are still among men who reported recent sexual contact with other men just over 14000 Americans have been infected with monkey pox

2:41:30 But there are early signs that new cases are plateauing. A million vaccine doses have been delivered nationwide and starting Monday, 1.8 million more doses will be made available where medical professionals are trained in a new method of injection right under the top layer of skin instead of into fatty tissue, a technique that only requires a fifth of the dose increasing the supply. Jurisdictions are very enthusiastically starting this to get it's exciting from the perspective of access The vaccine manufacturer Bavaria Nordic is raising some concerns tonight about this newer type of injection citing lack of data. Sending a letter to the FDA saying this newer method could increase reaction, the FDA says the reaction should be manageable and that both types of injections should create the same level of protection against the virus. Have you heard this? No. Now it's a lot in that clip was so packed full

2:42:27 information. What is this about? Where you want to start, you pick it new vaccine, new kind of vaccine. No, there's no new kind of vaccine. It's the new delivery method. What they say is we could take one dose Make it five doses and just shoot it right up under the skin and not into the fat tissue. Oh yeah, this was to spread it out that's right which seems like a complete violation of the whole idea of shooting it into the muscle and not under the skin into whatever

2:43:06 But how do you make one dose into five doses and they did this with COVID. Oh, we realized we can get three doses out of the vial instead of two now is five out of one right? And then do you charge us a full dose and when I say us the taxpayer that's who probably paying for it are you charging us now five doses or one oh good point could be a side hustle Remember when the COVID vaccine has to be shipped minus 3,000 degrees very special refrigerators and then after a couple of months like guys carrying around their Yeti cooler. Here's my vaccine you know it was like come on

2:43:47 I heard what's Dr. McCullough? You took me here so, I mean... I heard Dr. McCullough on Info Wars and he was saying the fact yeah you do that no no no I saw it was on a haven't watched it oh he had not to spoil it you're saying but had to tell you what he said The fact that they let it expire, not using you know saying keeping it super cold like they had originally said may have saved lives because... That's fantastic. It expiring actually made it weaker Weaker or you know saying not even having effect at all So man, what did I always had that same question? You got a spoiler for me. What did McCullough say they said we're all gonna die from this thing What was his bottom line no he was just saying that it may be bioweapon yeah This is by design it's not an accident right but

2:44:42 I just took away from it like, okay maybe they knew that if they gave it to you fresh farm-fresh. You know what I'm saying? From the freezer. Right. It was inspiring people too fast so it's like you know what let's give them a weekend and less dose because we're on this vaccine train now so we have to keep it going but how can we protect people from the product and other thing is weird in his last clip was that company not on board The company's contacting the FDA, it was like whoa whoa whoa. We don't have any history of doing this new technique and shooting it right up under the skin and stepping on it. I know and its some Scandinavian company These are drug dealers This is what drug dealers do They take a key of cocaine and cut it You know what im saying? And make the most out of you know stretch as far as they can

2:45:36 I'm with you. Of course they're drug dealers, literal drug dealers legal drug dealers. Uh...I just don't understand why people jump on this. I mean yeah i saw the lines. Oh! I am standing in line for my monkeypox vaccine. I know young women who hang out with gay guys all getting uh..you know? I hang out with these gay guys so I gotta get a monkey pox vaccine Because of the fat vanity plays a huge. I don't think it's death. I don't think the approach is dead I think we desensitized to death really We talked about that after that with this was the Spanish flu Remember like after they came out at it, the kids was like man You know if I'm a dial my die, I don't think death is a good motivator now

2:46:22 Now I think people are callous. Now you just look like shit on Zoom, yeah I gotcha That's enough! That's way more effective Whoa! You can catch it twice He was saying whenever they could make you catch it twice So now its like oh I gotta stay up with my Mikey Park shots Right right right Up to date Gotta be up-to-date Up-to-date I said this word more than I wanted too but I think vanity plays a huge role in this being effective And you hear the number of cases, I think they said 18 thousand now. It's like how is it spreading so fast? And not discounting because i'm still as an open option that may be due to compromised immune systems due to the original shot. You know so

2:47:08 But I had to introduce this piece of information and now we got a revisit. Let's go back and remember what we talked about on the infections operation infections of Planning news stories to be used later, right? Yeah This is where we're going is would you get your two foot for right here? I'm ready Number 38. I'm gonna read the whole title Did Russia consider using monkeypox as a bioweapon after the collapse of the Soviet Union? Now comes a new report which claims that Russia had looked at the possibility of using monkey pox as a biological weapon in the early 1990s. This was right at the end of the Cold War when the Soviet Union had just collapsed

2:47:52 On Crux Decode, how real is this report? How real is this possibility that the Soviet Union was using monkeypox as a biological weapon. Dr Ali Bek says and I quote so we developed a special program to determine what model viruses could be used instead of smallpox We tested Vaccinio virus, Mousepox virus, Rabbit pox and Monkeypox virus as models for smallpox. The idea was that all research and development work would be conducted using these model viruses

2:48:30 Once we obtain the set of positive results, it would take just two weeks to conduct the same manipulation with smallpox virus and to stockpile the warfare agent. We would have in our arsenal a genetically altered smallpox virus that could replace the previous one." Now, the Russian Ministry of Defense decided to continue working with the monkeypox to create what he calls future biological weapons after the collapse of the USSR. He was previously brought before a United States congressional hearing where Dr Ali Beq said that he is convinced that Russia's biological weapons program had never been completely dismantled

2:49:18 How hard was it for you not to talk about that for the past two hours, two and a half hours? How hard was that specifically? It's a struggle. You know... So here is where my mind went. I'll just tell you where my mind went right away. Yeah please! That is exactly what I want to hear. My mind went That shit kicked off in Ukraine. We got all those bio labs our bio labs You know, there's people in and out and then a couple months later this monkey pox now with this information I'm starting to put some dots together on that And that's why this is why it show you can't It's unmatched and that's not from a bait. No, I'm just saying because we go where were

2:50:10 On the same rabbit hole, but for such different angles. Yeah that when we come and sit down to talk about it It's like you Fill in some gaps I had a feeling some gaps that you had and then we come out with her You know closer picture to the truth, you know, this is the exercise of paying attention everything Here's another here's another thing. When did Victorian? Yeah so Victorian Newland admitted to the Department of Defense bio labs in Ukraine in March. and I think the first monkeypox in the US was May. So we've got Ukraine war, end of January-February March yeah we got some bio labs may monkey pox and now um in September I hear that the Russians kind of dig this as a so maybe there were still some monkey pox in there but those biolabs in Ukraine who knows? That's what Dr Kenneth Ken Alabeck is saying

2:51:11 And this guy's a huge douchebag because he was one of those people that was the weapons of mass destruction bio-weapons during the whole Middle East thing. Anthrax! So, yeah... He's been brought before the uh you know what it says? He testified several times before US Congress and and other governments on biotechnology use in the lead up to the war between US and Iraq, he testified before Congress without direct knowledge or evidence that attempts to wipe out Iraqi's bio weapons capability were probably not successful. So he'll say anything but I'm just saying go back to operation... That only makes it more likely if this is one of those guys who will say anything

2:52:02 Right, so they buried the story if we look at it through the same lens as the Operation Infection. You have this report that this guy is referencing of Russia you know always been open to using monkeypox. It's their choice bio weapon now and now well this is your twofer and we already got a beef with Russia That's pretty good, Mo. That's pretty good I like it. A lot of different ways we can go with it but I like it a lot yeah Okay now we gotta go to how do you get into the masses? You know this is where really scares me and you've heard these clips before This is a self-made supercut Of three reports that I've hear about monkey pox in the waste water

2:52:50 We'll talk to you in a little bit with monkey box cases on the rise in Georgia and COVID numbers back up. Fulton County is taking a proactive approach to tracking cases by testing wastewater CBS 46 is Madeline Montgomery's live from Fulton counties Camp Creek Wastewater Facility with how that process works and how it will inform decisions made by county leaders just like with covid health officials across the Bay Area are using waste water to determine the true number of monkey pox cases KPIX 5 reporter Max Darrow takes a look at the importance of this kind of preemptive surveillance. Similar to the COVID sewage surveillance that began a year ago. It's pretty exciting to see the demonstration of pivoting wastewater monitoring for these other viral threats in a way that is really timely and useful for our communities right now The same sample and process being used to detect COVID in wastewater, is being used to detect monkeypox Monkey pox is a new emerging virus

2:53:52 viral threat in our communities and it's also shed in bodily fluids. So, it ends up in the wastewater. Okay so here is a pro tip don't drink from your toilet! Don't drink from the toilet that was bad idea but this is this and I saw this happening with COVID-19 It's not a new technique you can narrow down to a block or apartment maybe a floor but this will be used for self imposed lockdown of many sorts There's polio on your floor lock down and you'd be like shit this polio here. Let's lock down And before the Russian clip I found that I was like, this is complete BS You know Finding small pot how house way? I mean like seriously How do you how do you find where I mean like it just doesn't make sense to me but at least a point of

2:54:50 Is there actual monkey pox in the water supply? I'm not poo-pooing the fact that it's in there, but how can they tell where like you said from where is flora and fauna. And that was what I thought was bogus from my perspective. It's waste water so not the water supply but of course... You know what else is in here. It's not the water supply its' the wastewater But you know what else is in wastewater, it's like cocaine, COVID, polio. Prescription pills! That was a big one for a long time. A lot of Lexapro, Adderall and then of course the actual water supply that we drink is a whole bunch of other things

2:55:35 But this is a surveillance technique they've been talking about throughout COVID. We heard it two years ago, we can detect it everywhere. If anything all of this to me is just noise information fear-mongering making you afraid and I think it's working Here's where my brain went to and like I said this is just Just my observation of it made me think it made me stop and think for a minute not that I believe this could happen but if Monkey pops is in the water supply. I mean not the water supply been to sewage, you know in sewage what else is there sewage crocodiles?

2:56:20 Rats. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah And oh man was the number one way of spreading what they said a number one carrier animal is rats Right so if you get small me I keep saying small monkeypox in The New York sewage supply and all those rats Okay, I lived in New York City in Hell's Kitchen in the 80s Mm-hmm where you literally saw rats? No, as big as chihuahuas. Yes I agree DC Baltimore they yeah Columbus Circle right? Columbus Circle this is now this is before that all got built up you see Columbus Circle today it's not all like back in the Mayflower Hotel days these rats man they climb up 20 stories no problem

2:57:15 Big Chiligae Island rats, you know what I'm saying? There ain't no puppy. You know what I'm saying like... Yeah now that said i never had one in my apartment. I've seen plenty of them down on the street uh we no one ever talked about- Of course people talked about they spread disease but we didn't have any specific ones to talk about so Yeah, this is interesting. I like monkey pods from monkey pox from a rat doesn't get any better than that and guess what you said they can come up 30 built me in 30 feet buildings. They also can climb up to your toilet. Yeah, yeah well Mo

2:57:54 I think you should look in your toilet every single time you go. I always do! It's a good policy regardless, but we got scorpions that can pop out, it's kind of the same thing as like hey there is stuff going on here i don't want bitten People might think it's a myth that rats can get in through your toilet, but here is the report from National Geographic number 40. It's an urban dwellers worst nightmare...a rat in the toilet! It's scary but it does happen. Washington DC's rodent control receives a couple of complaints each year.

2:58:37 How does this ultimate rat invasion actually occur? First, it could easily sneak into grates or manhole covers open to the street. Residential sewer pipes feed into the main tunnel A rat might consider this path an irresistible opportunity for exploration Its sharp claws allow the rat to scale almost any vertical surface The rat is in the home's internal pipes, going up. Now it faces the biggest test getting through the last few feet of the narrow maze-like toilet pipes Is this even possible? The underwater passage leaves no room for error At a turn, the rat finds a pocket of air just enough to help it push on...to the end of the line

2:59:39 Yeah, they can do it. You don't need no history channel I could have told you they can do it Russian rats! Courtesy of Vladimir! Sorry! Russian rats with monkey pox! Oh man... Well, you're not s- I know you're affected a little bit, but you're not really like... You're not looking over your shoulder for a rat to bite you or some down-low brother to attack you. Are you? Not seriously too afraid of everything No! What i'm saying is if you start to change your habits it affects you Yes

3:00:21 And with COVID, I was kind of like...I wore a mask at first more because the wife was on my butt about it. But you know what i'm saying? It's like, ehh! I didn't turn back around and go get a mask if I didn't have one to go to the 7-Eleven but definitely with the public bathrooms Things of that nature, I have changed how I move. And I just wanted to share that with people that you can be the most rational person in the world but... Well we appreciate your sharing! I personally have never been a person for public restrooms. It's not-I'm not a fan at all, at all, at all No me either but i'm just saying

3:00:59 I mean, it would be the last option. I mean like the total last option but I am being proactive now making sure... Making sure uh..I don't have that need It's like nahhh And here we were all these decades thinking man we need AR-15s We need lots of ammo We need thousands of rounds and Vladimir is going to come in here and get us with a rat with a rat. Thank you Moe, this was entertaining I didn't expect this type of potluck it's good i like how you give me the twofer at the end that's really good might have to use some of these clips this is good You can link uh... pandemic with Putin? That's pretty good

3:01:49 Oh man, let's not wait so long for our next show. Of course not of course I will be back on a more frequent basis and with that said as i always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself it might come in the form of a rat but it will reveal itself thanks Mo talk to you soon brother all right talk to you later Adam remember everybody mofax.com we'll see you soon Music

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