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00:00 Step by step, heart to heart, left right left, we all fall down. Mo Facts with Adam Curry for March 28th 2020! This is episode number 31! Pandemic 2020 lockdown Adam and Mo on Rona Radio! Just figuring out a day gig if we never get back to work, it'll be Adam and Mo every day Rona radio Yes, that's our own a on your down. That's You know hold on a second before we do even anything I need to I need to see if that domain name is available Let me funny almost let's see check for the domain rona Radio calm

00:51 Available! Alright, I am now registering that. We don't know what we'll do with it yet if we have hopefully you won't need it but you never know RonaRadio.com everybody How are ya doing? R-O-N-A How are you doing Mo everything good? I'm doing well sir how about yourself yeah pretty good how are the kids hey I gotta ask you know because we don't have any to deal with during this crisis I know you got four so they're hanging in Oh, they're doing well. I think they missed school because my wife is even harder on them probably. They get at school we still let them outside yeah living life as normal as possible Yeah so everything's going well. It was gonna say it actually is kind of handy you got four kids now You know you get to four times that 500 bucks

01:47 Actually turned out to be valuable these kids for once. That's good, man! Congratulations on that. Thank you thank you so much. So to try and keep some normalcy during the lockdown we're just continuing with our regular schedule with MoFax with Adam Curry. Thank you all for your feedback I could even see people posting earlier today like I need MoFax now how am i gonna get through my Saturday? And I think, I think I like the Saturday day because it gives people you know something to look forward to get the weekend started off. Yeah! Something to anticipate and of course depending on how many million clips you got You know that kind depends what time this show is posted So what do we got going on for today Moe? What's uh...what's the word? Well you have to spin the wheel and find out. Oh here we go! Alright spinning the wheel with Clips

02:38 The Wheel of Topics, the Wheel of Fortune here on MoFax. Let's find out what todays topic will be where the wheel stops nobody knows Here we go, the clip it goes Black identity extremists What is that? Black Identity Extremists Yes Is this the opposite of white nationalist extremist I think it's the exact same but just different groups. Oh, okay alright So this is a term that cropped up in around 2017 by a leaked FBI document

03:17 And so I waited, took my time. It's been on my radar but until I have time to actually dig into these things...I don't like to address them So this is from your long-term open case file? Yes! From the list! So I guess we'll just jump right in with FBI warns of terror. Black identity extremists now considered a domestic terror threat by the FBI. The bureau releasing an explosive new report claiming police officers are being targeted by people who perceive racial injustices, the FBI says that 2014 shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson Missouri spawned the threat against cops and Brown's death also sparking violent riots across the country

04:09 Hmm was this a TMZ report because it sure sounded like it actually was a Fox News report in the music and the jazziness It was the same thing caught my attention, too. I'm glad you picked up on that yeah TMZ foxes No difference So, have you heard of this term? I want to know what you know about it. I don't think i have. Black extremist... black identity extremist... no! It's not a great term if I'm gonna be a terrorist You know what's it you know I'm a terrorist over my identity!! It just sounds kind of wimpy

04:47 It's B.I.E., I mean that was the actor... B.I.E.? Yes, associated with it. You know it's not quite like Black Panthers if you know what I mean? B.I.E! Right. Panthers oh okay. They just don't roll off the tongue Not really no but I had not heard of as far as I know So that's interesting. So they tried to push this term and obviously it didn't make it across the threshold, but it was trending on black Twitter and I'm just shocked that you didn't show up on your timeline anytime maybe before you actually started tracking it. Yeah maybe the algos just took it away from me and never know right? But there is a huge talking point all on the pro-black side of things because basically

05:33 Similar to what we've seen in the past with groups being targeted and how they create narratives But today's show we're not gonna go too deep into The groups that are being labeled this because there is no clear group or groups being identified as this but how this Term came about and you know, I'm all about narrative. I'm all about How they create these? Terms and I always like to get into find out what the origin of these these things are it's also good if we'll find out today Why this one failed? And or did or was it stopped. You know, I don't know. I don't know either but um, I guess we can get into FBI sites black extremists as terror Meanwhile the FBI warns this get this they warn Americans have new a new domestic terror threat black identity extremist What's that?

06:25 Well, it goes back to a lot of these police shootings. When we look at the Alton Sterling shooting in Louisiana for example you had a madman that decided in retaliation for that to shoot officers The same thing held true when Dallas You had another mad man that decided to shoot police officers Who was a veteran Right right exactly But when we think about these African American extremists this is something thats a by-product product of, I want to say Black Lives Matter and a lot of these other organizations. And I don't want to say Black Lives Matter caused it however they do have the responsibility to marshal in their following to ensure that...I shouldn't say ensure but let them know that we are going to protest for peace and they failed at that therefore they do have a level of complacency. Okay so i heard a splinter group of black lives matter in that report

07:14 Well, what these two brought up is that the Black Lives Matter movement kind of whipped up this anger or frustration with police officers. I think it's fair to say there was a lot of anger, looking at what we saw in Baltimore...a lot of anger. Correct! A lot of anger but there was no organization to the anger now how it got started? We've talked about on this show before that became top-down. We've already laid out the links and previous shows of George Soros and the funding him to Black Lives Matter but

07:54 The violent acts those were not tied to any specific group and I think this was the point of this label so they could kind of Lump all the act bad actors under one title right in order to okay Well, that's interesting by itself. Yeah So maybe it wasn't a group but they just gave it a name and that's all these people doing this Well, you saw the same thing with white nationalists and making whites groups terror-making them terrorist groups. And it's the same thing but I think this just happened prior to it just didn't take...and it's funny that only found clips like official news clips on the Fox network. I'm not cherry picking for a fox. It was just that the ones that were communicating as an actual threat

08:47 We're only coming from Fox. Well, that's and that that's the reason why it never got any legs right there If you try to launch a meme through Fox is gonna die It's you know anything comes out of there The other networks will never pick up they'll never I'll never agree on that But I do like I find it interesting that someone was out there and needed to name him Yeah And when you see something being named like that? It always just like I was like what where this gone? Where's this coming from? I've never knew of any particular group that was speaking offensive violence. Now you have

09:25 Groups that speak of self-defense, but you have it on all spectrum sure of every race of you know if anybody Comes at you. You have the right to defend yourself I mean essence as American and apple pie But I never saw like this the offensive or Going out and attacking people so that's what raised my arm raise the flag on this situation And as you mentioned before If Fox was trying to push this, then you had the more liberal media pushing it back against this. And one of those organizations is being vice. Yes! We're more an advertising agency than anything but yes... And you're going to see that even be even more true in this next of the clips from inside the FBI hunt for black identity extremists In the early morning hours of December 12th 2017

10:18 Former Marine and Black activist Christopher Daniels, aka Raqem Balagoon was arrested at his home for unlawful gun possession. So what would warrant such a dramatic arrest and possible jail sentence of 10 years? According to leaked FBI document there's new group of domestic terrorists – black identity extremists Wow, that was scary. I left that tail on there just to set the mood huh? Very scary black identity extremist! I left it on there purposely and i did it in a couple of clips to seed the tone of this documentary or expose they did on quote-unquote black identity extremists And what name would this guy have Christopher Daniels is what I heard

11:14 No, his name was if you're gonna run it back. I didn't catch his name But more important than his name is him being a former Marine Yeah pay attention Everybody out there pay attention make a note of the connection with the military With these extremists hmm It's a you it'll be laid out later, but they as they point out x-marine Where is this going? What is what is this I've never heard of this guy before no As I told as I said before that I'm aware, listen to a lot of different points of view on the black experience. Correct? Yes! This guy has never registered on my radar ever and all of a sudden Vice is doing a huge story on him and well i'll let them continue on telling about his story Raquem was greeted at home by family and members of Guerrilla Mainframe the black activist group that Raquem co-founded

12:20 On their website, Guerrilla Mainframe describes themselves as a community-based political organization. Their activities include food drives, self defense classes, weapons training and open carry neighborhood patrols It was these kinds of activities which are visible across Guerrilla Mainframe and Raqem's social media accounts that Raqem believes made him the target of the FBI Wow a lot of suppositions in there. Holy crap I can't believe it that I have found one story from the intercept fear of a black homeland The strange tale of the FBI's fictional black identity extremism movement, okay? This is interesting. I bet you came across this as well as you were researching it Yes, yes idea and what about stranger or interesting was the name of his group

13:13 Gorilla mainframe and it's spelled, not the animal but like g-u-e-r-r-i-l-l-a. Now the definition of guerrilla itself is a person who engages in irregular warfare, especially as a member of an independent unit carrying out harassment and sabotage. Second, this is from Merriam-Webster, and the second definition is or relating to or suggestive of guerillas especially being aggressive radical unconventional. Yeah it's not great guerrilla warfare, its not good

13:50 I'm talking about why would you name your organization? Gorilla mainframe Gorilla mainframe. I mean you're putting a big red beacon say hey come investigate Kind of Do they have guerrilla mainframe.com to and just register it to their home address? They have a website and they had several YouTube videos, but there were just talk about basically the same thing that the Black Panther was doing feeding the kids in self-defense And I didn't really see take anything away from negative, but is this

14:26 All this is just way too convenient. Yeah, I hear you. Ex-military guy now he comes home and he's trying to raise a new Black Panther Party or quote unquote New Black Panther Party And he's the first arrest under this new black identity extremist label So I guess we need to figure out why the label Yes, I'd like to know. There's this perception that the government promotes that we are in a stage of critical emergency because of terrorism and that's because they get more power and In order to retain their power They need to find more terrorists one of the most outspoken critics on the black identity extremist assessment is Michael German

15:16 A former FBI agent who did undercover work on white supremacists and right-wing militias in the 90s. He's now a fellow for the Brennan Center for Justice What incentive do you believe that the FBI has to make a label like Black Identity Extremist? A person cannot be targeted for investigation based solely on First Amendment activity So by creating this black identity extremism movement They can use that as the justification to then target any activists who or any black person Who is protesting police violence? One of my problems with this kind of intelligence report is these are six disparate acts of violence That they try to mold into a movement There was really nothing connecting them except the fact that they killed police officers and the fact that there were blacks

16:08 Yeah, this is so typical for the FBI to do these types of things. I'll just give you my gripe up front. My gripe up front just like... Just recently in the news, the fact that was during the right after the president said hey everybody should stay home for no more than 10, of course a lot of cities even Austin started to lock down all of a sudden after months of using a confidential informant to jack up some guy who lives with his grandmother, to get him all freaky and like oh yeah now I want to go kill everybody in the hospital you know show this coronavirus is a hoax. And they give him a phony bomb and they just get them all jacked up to go and then they arrest him and the guy was armed

16:59 You know, so then a shootout occurred. Convenient the guy's dead so he can't... it just happens a lot but this is a cycle for the FBI they do this kind of stuff every six weeks or they used to do it every six weeks and our new agenda shows theory on this and this comes from People inside the FBI who suggested as much is you know, they got to keep in the public eye They got to keep the budgets coming gotta stay relevant. And now it seems like oh man what a stretch We're actually gonna create a group name just to lumping a whole bunch of things and yeah and then with that comes The same opportunity to pop things off at times that are convenient for the FBI or the Department of Justice wherever its convenient for

17:49 Just like this Missouri bomber, I think what a great moment to terrify the citizens even more. They could have waited! And the catalyst for this really and it's a little foreshadowing here into the rest of the show is it was two events or several events but two main events and that was the shooting in Dallas Yes, yes I think five cops yep And then the shooting in Baton Rouge that killed three cop cops that happened. I think it was like ten days Yeah It was a real messy period all that happened in just the span of a month or so all that stuff right down I think was like July 7th and the second one was July 17th quote me on those dates But I think it was roughly there So they took these two

18:35 separate events that had nothing to do with each other and say, oh we're gonna roll them up. And that's what the gentleman that just spoke in the last clip was saying. Roll them up into one thing... One one label, one label and create a label. And then I like you said with the six week cycle that became aware of on the no agenda show now that now we have a new brand. Yeah but this is these guys mess it up clearly? I don't know what went wrong maybe will find out but if i was in the meeting like all right I got a great idea guys hey

19:13 We'll lump all this together, we'll give it a name and then we can do stuff with it. We can arrest people, get money, budgets create something scary... Yeah good idea boss! What are we gonna call it? Black Identity Extremists! I like Gorilla Mainframe now that's a name! It's like whoa yeah that sounds scary And the reason why I think, this is just me speculating. I don't think you heard about this from the left wing of mainstream media is they were so supportive of Black Lives Matter and this BIE is basically tied... They're trying to tie it to Black Lives Matter So if their left wing or the media starts pushing this narrative then they're complicit because they are the one that put

20:09 battery in the back of Black Lives Matter. So they're just like, we want to suppress this and make it go away." Right! And that would explain why Fox would be interested in hyping the story up because they want to discredit everything The Left does, everything The Left sponsors which would be Black Lives Matter And they've always been anti-Black Lives Matter, so it just fits the brand. So it's like okay yes, it does! It's an easy jump to go from Black Lives Matter to BIE I mean maybe even the acronym Acronym is like a easy jump because if you use the acronym instead of the term itself. Like BLM, BIE? Yeah yeah I think they should have done Notorious BIE and then that would have been better than just BIE It's just me man! I live for this stuff! Notorious BIE Just a thought

21:07 You, sir are in advertising. So let's get to BIE4. On August 3rd 2017 the FBI created the Black Identity Extremist Assessment using the Dallas 2016 shooting and five other unrelated attacks on police as justification that this movement exists. Black identity extremists now considered a domestic terror threat by the FBI According to the FBI assessment, it was very likely that these terrorists would target law enforcement officers in retaliation for perceived police violence against African Americans.

21:45 Due to the assessment classifying the group as a domestic terror organization, the FBI is able to justify any invasive surveillance tactics used in monitoring these targeted individuals. Wow! Wow wow wow hold on a second... Black identity extremist and it was a terror group? Classification? Well that thing is useless then if you can just name it and then say... And these groups overlap. Here it is, here it is. BIE Notorious BIE was a designation Hold on second I thought I had terror I thought I saw this somewhere I don't see an official-I wonder who has to name something official for to be in official terrorist group

22:49 You know what I mean? I'm not sure. It's on the FBI list, so it is not a far jump to get the rights to investigate or circumvent people's given rights to investigate them but i just want to point out one other thing the mind control music in this clip. No, it's good that's Vice man they're really good at that! They give you a whole documentary feel to it and just pushing you through... You can't even question what's being told. It's good Well, when this term popped up on people's timelines and when this leaked document started to get legs. There was only one comparison to bring up and we brought it up in show 15 and this is a throwback clip from there

23:43 Secret COINTELPRO. We know the government watches us, but what about when government surveillance changes the course of history? In the 1960s, the U.S. government started a program called COINTELPRO or The Counterintelligence Program. The program was a series of secret FBI initiatives targeting activists political and minority groups the American Indian Movement, the Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, women's and civil rights groups, Vietnam War protesters and anyone who got the government seeing red. Tactics used included infiltration AND surveying & discrediting leaders and causes in order to undermine entire movements or organizations

24:24 But a lot of what COINTELPRO did was illegal, and it was officially disbanded in 1971. Though if you ask many activist groups and political dissidents it still exists just in another form Oh, well yeah of course. It's just like yes Operation Mockingbird also ended apparently Yes the MK Ultra ended Yeah it all ended. We just continued under a different name but those programs ended fair enough Well, this is nothing new and I mean i'll just show in the last clip that these kind of things have been going on. And one of them well any black group that pushes anything other than non-violence

25:09 labeled as radical. The previous term was radical, militant yeah you know these were the terms that were labeled now we have extremist one of those people that were labeled as an extremist was Malcolm X. Of course But when a black man strikes back, he's an extremer. He is supposed to sit passively and have no feelings be non-violent and love his enemy No matter what kind of attack, verbal or otherwise, he is supposed to take it but if he stands up in any way trying to defend himself then he is an extremist. I think that the speaker who precedes me is getting exactly what he asked for

26:15 Wow, that was another scary clip. I want to say this, those Funkmaster Flex bombs were not in the original clip. This is the only place i could find his speech and whoever posted it put these explosive bombs in the background every time he made an excellent point It's a bit distracting but you have to use the source material that you're given Right now...and I get the point In fact I'd like to make another point we are dealing here with the BPE

26:53 What's that? Black podcasting extremists. Right there, Moe! I see you! Hey man hey look and you wonder where this okay i gotta be honest you wonder where this topic came from and this is this show the connectivity between the shows...I ended the last show off with The School of Fish analogy yes and part of That School Of Fish analogy is one The fish can't be too close together or too far apart. Now, with that analogy this is the reason why if we're going to be successful at creating change We can't be too close together because they always gonna create these terms then infiltrators as we've seen throughout history and

27:43 To divide. They, to divide and destroy and discredit and yeah whatever term you want the term you want to use so that is how we got from last show to this show I like to add that in okay got it And for Malcolm X that's why he's not usable in the same way Martin Luther King was usable Because King was about non-violence and loving each other, which we should love each other. But as soon as you, as Malcolm pointed out in the previous clip, as soon as you start talking about protecting yourself... And this is not exclusive to only so called blacks or quote unquote blacks This is any group! As soon as you start talking about defending yourself then you are our problem although

28:32 If black people go with white people to the state capitol with guns, it's all white extremists. Just so you know I saw some black faces there, but it was all white extremists. And you saw a lot and that's really what derailed that whole anti-gun cause its like we don't have a clean camera shot without having a black person in it so... Hey hey move that guy over to the left a little bit yeah can get my shots. You're so right And then you, if you do that then you start bringing these people that have similar ideologies together. Bad idea! Can't have people getting together and having thoughts That's why this podcast is so dangerous BPE, the notorious BPE MoFax So let's continue listening to Malcolm X a little bit more Intelligently directed extremism

29:36 Extremism in defense of liberty, extremism in quest of justice is because I firmly believe When his own freedom is being jeopardized, to use any means necessary to bring about this freedom or put a halt for that injustice. I don't think he'll be by himself! I live in America where there are only 22 million blacks against probably 160 million whites One of the reasons that i'm no way reluctant or hesitant To do whatever it's necessary to see that black people do something to protect themselves

30:16 Man, he would have been great as a podcaster. I'm not kidding. I can listen to his voice forever, it's such a great cadence and just the perfect tone to it

30:53 It would have been great. And that's why I love doing this show with you because prior to you even hearing that clip, you pointed out Virginia and he followed up with that point when black people start showing we want to protect ourselves and exercise our rights given by us by the first and second amendment will actually garner more support. That's right, that's the dangerous part it's like no no no! Keep them separated you know gotta keep them separated well that was a little history on these kind of things being

31:35 Been done been done all throughout history. We saw the same thing with Marcus Garvey and How Jagger Hoover had it up for him, and he was for this help defense It's later come back. It's fascinating how we all fall for the same gambit every single time Every single time and it's like when when the media shows pictures of black men with guns in their hands they can whip up fear Yeah, I'll say they can whip up fear and then that in turns you know demonizes and makes the Makes them extremist now

32:14 This thing got, it did get attention from the government. And one of the people that did get attention from and I gotta give her props was representative Karen Bass and just a little background on Miss Karen Bass she is um she's a democrat and also a member of the black national caucus. The Black Caucus yep She represents Culver City in South Los Angeles One interesting thing I saw about her is she was the acting chair of the subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security.

32:55 So I just found that interesting, but for this show she's going to be the BIA. Okay so she actually took on and called a form highlighting black identity extremism I don't believe black identity extremists exist. And, um...I believe that the FBI should retract the document and should send out a document throughout law enforcement saying that black identity extremists do not exists They gave no information to us as to how they came up with that category and To me what they really need to be concerned about is white identity extremists but that seemed demystified

33:45 There we go It's working it does because if you highlight one group Then the other that group is going to point out all the represent so-called representatives. That group is gonna point out What about the other side? Oh, yeah, you're right. Let's investigate everybody Just called American extremists identity extremist whatever its horrible yes And like I said, she did have this form and um. She had to give her credit because she did bring attention to how this thing was just thrown together rolled out to law enforcement an it was like what are we supposed to do? Who are we looking for? I mean usually when you have a

34:29 You're doing some kind of investigation and you know, like what's the motive? What's the who are the perps? You know that kind of thing is like nah It's just a group anything time they say Anything extreme then we have to write to invest but then we got him Yeah, we got one. That's a that's a very dangerous premise and The way this works is, in my mind a lot of these groups overlap. You have members that are members of two or more groups so once you can start connecting that chain to well they're an organization ABC and also you know... Yeah, you could spider web it back. You could spider web it and show the so-called huge organization which may have some actual interlinking connections but

35:15 Again, the original premise is just you know what's it's what's it? What's extremism and what's identity in this case Right. And they just clearly identify those two terms for you, but let's go back to some more highlights from the form. The point of the document is that it's saying that black identity extremists are organized to kill law enforcement officers. My concern about it is especially since it was distributed to law enforcement around the country, is that I consider a declaration of open season on young black activists that I have a particular concern about, especially people who are involved in the Black Lives Matter movement or any movement that's trying to hold police accountable. It reminded me of my days here in Los Angeles as a young activist protesting the LAPD and the level of repression we went through

36:10 There was nobody we could talk to during those years. And so I feel a very personal responsibility to make sure that that document is retracted now, so let me just understand a few things first of all do you know what the actual document is that's being referred to continuously here? It's a leaked, and this is the running theme in this whole administration and how the media has covered it. It's a leaked document! Okay have we actually ever seen the document? Does it exist? I have not seen the document. I've looked for the document... yeah

36:46 Well, I'll say this. I've saw copies but I couldn't validate that was the official document I'll say that because you seen it posted online But I'm not sure if that's and I didn't want to report it You know right as facts If I can't validate it right which how do you validate a leaked document? Yeah? Your uh document um I'm gonna refer to so and who was running the F now This is this is before Trump was elected when this was put into place Was it not No, it was 2017 when it came out Okay, but they were referring back to things that happen. Well no no the Dallas shooting was was under Trump No, that wasn't Obama was that in there Obama? This is this one and this is part of the distance This is part of the story cuz he's like why did these things start cropping up right at the end of Obama's term was administration going into

37:41 The 2016 election so I don't know if you have this covered was it James Comey still running the FBI at that point? It must have been yes, it had to be because he carried over. He carried over Wow This is something that is Under-reported I'm sure it is even more reason why the left the more liberal side of media Had no reason to I mean this is like stopping Frick's on steroids Yes, it is. But let's let Karen Bass finish up with her form. The numbers suggest that 83% of the shots fired as incidents we've had since 2009 are right-wing extremists

38:29 And so again, as I'm challenging the report here and trying to be fair. I just try to understand where this data came from and how they put it together. Right exactly! And they can't answer that? How could you distribute a document to law enforcement agencies around the country? Exactly What is that category based on when it comes to terrorism It seems like its only called terrorism if your person of color especially if your Muslim My love for her was short-lived. Yeah, ended right there. That's where she broke my heart. Doing so well! We're talking about BIE and

39:10 As I always say, they use us to open the door and we're left holding the door. And this is a classic example where the conversation started around BIE and now it pivots back to Muslims, people of color aka colored people. Hey thanks! Thanks for holding the door open y'all. Oh you all welcome man. Good work Well good on Karen man, Karen Bass I gotta give her props. Yeah, call that out! We had good work and so i have some clips from the actual forum that was a highlights uh it was a four minute video highlighting all the things that were discussed in the form but i have some clips from her talking to Mr Jeff Sessions

39:58 And this is the clip, if BASC, if there's FBI report on black identity extremists. Okay so you're not- you haven't necessarily read the report but are familiar with the term Black Identity Extremist? Well I think so yes So can you tell me what that term means to you? Do you believe that there is a movement of African Americans identify themselves as black identity extremists and what does that movement do? Well, it'd be interesting to see the conclusions of that report. But I'm aware uh... that there are groups that uh...do have an extraordinary commitment to their racial identity And some have transformed themselves even into violent activists. And that was Sessions

40:47 Yeah, that's Sessions. Right so Sessions attorney general who came in after Loretta Lynch when Trump the Trump administration started correct right and it's in the way they frame this term is this is from Trump's FBI oh yeah this is not Trump's FBI right of course they shaped they shaped it very well to you know exclude anybody that their friendly too well So, let's just finish up her talking with Sessions.

41:40 I believe that could but i would want to be to confirm that and submit it in writing. But we had within the last year or so four police officers killed by a group that some have described as extremists. So what has happened is, there have been a couple of incidents in which African Americans did kill police officers who were not associated with a black organization. And so one, for example in Baton Rouge was associated with sovereign citizens which is primarily a white group. So you even heard Jeff Sessions say there we had a couple of events and talk about these two events

42:29 They created a whole identity. Not even he said that he only mentioned one didn't you like the four in Louisiana? Yeah, I think in Dallas and I think when he said four I think he was referring to Dallas. I thought Dallas was five yeah okay. And there were three in Baton Rouge maybe he just rounded it. He's like okay average of four uh...I don't know how he got to the 4 number but he couldn't even name a group if you have If you have a real threat, you could say okay just to say for instance radical Islamic terrorism. You could say you have the Taliban and you have Al-Qaeda... you know go down the list right? But now he couldn't even give one like it's submitted in writing which has me I had to help somebody look up one. And what was this was this a congressional hearing

43:25 Yes. Okay, so he was probably caught off guard by this? Yeah because he didn't even know I don't think in the previous... what I didn't clip He said that it sounded like you didn't know. He said he didn't know of the report Oh okay Which I find strange as well, but the optics is there. You have Jeff Sessions who's if you had to cast a racist in a movie? I'm just saying I'm not saying he is races or not either isn't racists But he fixed that casting and what we always talk about on show up Oh totally totally you have the southern accent older white man, and he's like oh

44:01 Yeah, he has kind of the physique of a garden gnome. You know all the things that you just like I can hate that guy and it's easy to do. Yep so here we are and before we actually get into those events that he alluded to i wanted to give a little clip We know we've heard we saw the videos with black lives matter calling cops pigs and yes Was it baked bacon something let them fry? Yeah, yeah here P. We saw you let him fry. Yep I want to make one point before we play the next clip one. I think a lot of this racial identity um Protesting is a form of cosplay That's my personal opinion

44:51 I see that. It's the same with Antifa, and I find that it is also a lot of cosplay So what happens is you have these organizations like Black Lives Matter because I'm not letting them off the hook in any form or fashion because I know who they represent They go out they get people into streets and then they have their agitators Come out while in the group throw a rock through a bottle Yeah Whatever else and then it causes group Her mentality and just like all hell breaks loose. Yeah, so I'm not taking a Jean provocateur Thank you sir But what I will say is there was also

45:37 Very nasty and vicious language specifically for Fox But what they will bring on these black law enforcement officers and They would use some of the most well just get into the next clip sure if your reaction to some of the some of the sentiment you heard in the streets on Saturday Well, it's just crazy talk. That's ignorance in its purest form You know I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't know why the police even bother policing those Demonstrations they're not protests those people advocate for the overthrow of our legally constituted

46:20 government. The president says they have a point, Sheriff. Let them fend for themselves let the good law abiding people of New York clash with them for disrupting their lives disrupting their businesses then the police can show up and arrest these subhuman creeps for creating a disturbance that we can do now which sheriff was this? That's Sheriff Clark who is black yes oh and he's Butter biscuit bags carrying either hat where you forgot hat wearing. Yeah And the reason why I say that is to come when you talk about groups You have to use nuance and not try to do that on the show not to prank with a wire brush any group because as I'll explain before you have a lot of

47:11 Good people on both sides. Yeah fine people I think the term is my final give me five people on both side yeah because a lot of people are frustrated and they just won't go out in the street and let out their frustrations and it may be cosplay but it's therapeutic Those people are not violent. They just want to have the feel like they have impact they haven't impact on something so they go out with their signs and a lot of them I would say 90% of the people out there are Just one exercise that first amendment Amendment rights but for a guy like this to call them subhuman and then later all called him garbage Yeah, well he said all the although I mean he was talking about all over not just the he didn't oh

47:53 you know, specifically say the agitators or the violent people. Allow me to give you a perspective from my point of view. Until we started this show I would have always thought of Sheriff David Clark as oh man there's a cool guy! You know he's not taking any crap and seems pretty down-to-earth But the more I start to learn and as you said the butter biscuits He's taking license. He's actually abusing his own skin color To give himself license to use these terms which I find but in itself offensive

48:38 And what even more rubs me the wrong way is if he was talking about the Bundy Ranch or the standoff, you know with um right wing groups. He wouldn't use a term subhuman I mean that in itself has connotations of sub-human that feeds into the Hitler and Jews. Black people not exactly goes back to that. Yeah. I'm glad you said that so when you use that term it's like You're bordering line on being a white supremacist yourself. The sound you just made said it all. Really? Yeah, it irks me because we can... I come here and I point out flaws on both sides We can do that but don't

49:25 denigrate people, especially people that are trying to just voice their First Amendment rights. All right so... Now one question based upon what he said Do you think it's possible he was referring purely to the agent provocateurs who show up within the group and calling them out as subhuman or did you really come across to you as he is calling everybody sub-human? To be fair, because I said a lot about him. Can we listen to that last maybe 20 seconds of that clip so we can hear exactly how he framed that? Yeah let's do that cause I thought he gave himself some leeway possibly hold on

50:04 The president says they have a point, Sheriff. Let them fend for themselves. Let the good law-abiding people of New York clash with them for disrupting their lives, disrupting their businesses then the police can show up and arrest these subhuman creeps for creating a disturbance that we can do. Let me go back just one little bit further hold on okay well it's just crazy talk that's ignorance in its purest form You know, I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't know why the police even bother policing those demonstrations and not protest those people advocate for the overthrow of our legally constituted. Okay? So he's grouping them all together there. All right. That's pretty clear. Pretty clear. Yeah, I'm glad we did that just to be clear and that's how I took it but I was want to make sure

50:54 I wasn't, uh... No no you got it. Yeah no you got it all right so now we have the set the stages set of we're trying to figure out how we got to BIE We've heard kind of the tone on the right hand side we clearly know what the tone on the pro-Black Lives Matter anti-police side is because it was highly spread out and discussed. Correct So, let's just get into what happened in Dallas. We begin with breaking news in Dallas Texas where at least five police officers were killed when they were ambushed by at least two snipers the shooting began near the end of a protest over the fatal police shootings of black men in Louisiana and Minnesota six other officers and a civilian were injured Police are questioning at least three alleged suspects and Manuel Bajorquez is in downtown Dallas Manuel What is the latest?

51:57 the suspect. He was in a parking garage, not too far from where we are has now died of self inflicted gunshot wound. died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. As you mentioned, the gunfire erupted in downtown Dallas with no warning turning this place into a war zone and still very much resembling one right now officials saying the intent of the shooters was to kill as many officers as possible

52:36 Yeah, didn't they go in with something like a robot that went around the corner and shot him or sorry? I'm sorry. Let me just put them on hold on a second. I got it right here Okay, let's stick with the news narrative as is reported So we have two shooters yeah and One of the shooters killed himself with self-inflicted gunshot wound That's what you have right now. We got now yes OK, so let's get into the next clip. Police say this was a coordinated attack at least two snipers from elevated positions as the protest rally march ended began firing upon our officers

53:31 ambush style. As the gunfire rang out, police used their patrol cars for cover as they moved in to help wounded officers. We believe that these suspects were uh positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different purchase in garages in the downtown area and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could. I never really heard this part of the story, maybe i came in late or something and only heard the resolutions of it interesting This is July 8th 2016 and the shooting happened on July 7 so this is right after the shooting we have multiple shooters

54:22 Triangulating which I don't know how you triangulate with two shooters, but hey man But we have multiple shooters and we have one of the shooters killing themselves With this and this is from the sheriff. That was a sheriff talking that wasn't um net what me excuse me? I think police chief police TV yeah, but that yeah, that was um that wasn't like some conspiracy theory website. Also the police chief of Dallas who I think also is black? Yes he is! But yeah, we have multiple shooters. One killing himself with a self-inflicted gunshot wound and that counters the narrative that you heard which you may have heard in this next clip And this morning We are getting new video and new eyewitness accounts of the fear as well as the heroism during the shooting in Dallas We have team coverage this morning now. We do begin with ABC's Matt Gutman right there on the ground in downtown Dallas Good morning Mat

55:24 Good morning, Paul. On that fear and heroism you mentioned was intensified by the fact that city officials thought they were under siege by an unknown number of gunmen that night now that they know it was a lone gunman officials are focusing on investigating how he did this and patching Dallas back together. It's a sniper from up here somewhere! IT'S A SNIPER?! This morning as agents combed the streets for evidence their learning more about the gunmen there was confusion with everybody running around but this was a mobile shooter who police say began blasting away shortly after this peaceful demonstration in Dallas on Thursday. Yeah!

56:04 I do. The long shooter! Yeah, it's crazy Moe...I remember there was a lot of confusion but i never heard the sheriff say so clearly multiple times. I thought it was like one of those fog-of-war maybe the first 30 minutes or so they thought that but that was the day after and this is two days after And all of a sudden everyone got their story straight. Okay, here we go. Here's what it is boys. Yeah It's one shooter or alone and they use the term lone lone wolf matter Lone shooter loneshooter that he said was a sick. They didn't say I was a single shooter It's the lone shooter. Yeah What about the other people? They were questioning they said there were questioning three other suspects but what happened with that and reason why I'm saying this is I want you to put on your

56:51 Black conspiracy theory hat and you hear like because when these things happen people follow them closely Oh, it's multiple shooters. I always going on and then you come back and just change the whole narrative That was a long shooter Yeah that smack of J Edgar Hoover that may not Jacob who excuse me arm James Earl Ray that smacks of the JFK assassin, you know it's like it always goes back to this just one is especially the connotation of Dallas. Yeah I net that was missed on me thank you for pointing out so we have a now we're down to one shooter no mention there the other three suspects and

57:38 the curious question of how he was killed. Dallas PD shutting down the airspace over town thinking this was an ambush with multiple shooters somebody's really armed to the teeth, this is not one person but it was one shooter Micah Xavier Johnson Mr. Johnson had written manifestos on how to shoot and move. You see him in this video advancing with deadly efficiency on this officer, firing the officer gun down. The toll? 14 shot 12 of them officers five of the officers died

58:14 Towards midnight SWAT teams finally corner Johnson on the second floor of El Centro College. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers Negotiations break down and police use an explosive mounted on a robot similar to this one To kill Johnson for the first time in history Yeah I remember now that was that's the part that I focused on when I heard that I'm like whaaaaat? And by the way, weren't there two of the five cops killed? Weren't they black? I'm not sure. But I think you're just going by memory. I'm just going by memory. Yeah, I think that was in...I think the black cops were killed in Baton Rouge but maybe. I'm not for sure but I want to- That last clip! I wanna pick it apart piece by piece. Okay First of all You have a shooter He hit 14 people 12 of them being cops

59:15 That means he had to be a crack shot all those people running around and that all that melee and chaos And you can hit this just how I perceived. Mm-hmm, too The man's name is Micah Xavier Johnson right? Yeah if you shorten that up you got Micah X Nice that's like code code No, I'm just saying that's what registered with me because when you abbreviate the middle name... Micah X. You got Micah X! Good one. That's great. Which lends it to itself and then you have this one day ago he said he killed himself with a self-inflicted gunshot wound how did you get that wrong? I don't understand how that one piece

1:00:05 Well, I mean i'm not surprised that the media gets it wrong. The question is where did they get their report from? Was it from the from the official police uh And in the previous clips they had the briefing of the police officer speaking So it's like you can ask him a question How did he how did he die smells like cover up They use one pound or c4 on a robot Oh yeah pound to blow this man up a pound make sure he wasn't recognizable that's for sure it is just strange yeah hella strange it's like you see for first time in history yeah they said on a robot after the communication break you have him cornered cuz I mean um they had him cornered I mean he couldn't get out uh after an hour you just say okay um yes sending the robot

1:01:00 What? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. And I don't-I've never heard of the robot being used since actually You have not either We've had many a standoffs with shooters Yes For day... I mean we had some that last for days even and they don't send the robot in but As this case starts to unravel, we get even more details about the gunman. Well, his name is Micah Johnson. 25 years old from the Dallas area In fact he celebrated his twenty-fifth birthday this past weekend We have now learned a bit more about him He was in the army for number of years Apparently spent some time either in Afghanistan or Iraq

1:01:54 But the very interesting thing we've learned in the past hour from law enforcement sources is what he was armed with. He had an assault rifle, a semi-automatic assault rifle. He had a handgun and apparently was dressed in body armor which makes everyone believe that he knew exactly what he was going to do when he came to the protests last night." Yeah... it's kind of distressing to hear all this again. For the listeners out there, I told you remember the military connection. Yes now we have the um

1:02:30 I think Rakim was the other guy's name that the Vice story was on. They put it out there, oh he's military former military former military now we have Micah X Johnson former military again if we were in the meeting and be like hey man let's come up with a cool name for this cat all right something like Malcolm X alright Micah X yeah but we got to make sure everyone know is really black Johnson all right that's it man perfect we're good to go It writes itself. It does, it really does So it's like, okay now we have this guy he's moving around biting armor assault rifle two pistols. He's making these difficult shots cops are taking triangulation Yeah triangulation Oh, I mean one thing I meant missed that the cop said in a previous clip his manifesto. I mean they're throwing all Did he ever publish one? did he ever publish a manifesto Well, his manifesto was more of his tactical how he was gonna do it but

1:03:32 They just relabeled it as a manifesto. Of course, that's what you do That's what you do It is all too convenient and like I'm thinking and this is 2017 so I'm saying this thing with the NA mind And it's like hey What? Who was his guy oh his manifesto was a very angry rant against white people That's it So, we have... and there was one drop by that last reporter. He didn't use the term Micah X Johnson. Get on code! You have to put the x in there. Otherwise people might think you're not a part of it. Right Which could've been true for that guy

1:04:21 Yeah, and like I said that well we all we know all the shooters always get three names which came up with that anyway but always this third name is fit perfectly. And so now we have a shooter that's blown up with one pound of C4 at the hour standoff Yes and he's former military Yep and now he's got to connect him We gotta connect them Mo Well, let's go ahead and connect him then Adam. We're getting a closer look at his motive and what investigators found inside his home Authorities say this is the deadly sniper Micah Xavier Johnson A former military man who went hunting for police specifically white officers There appears to have been one gunman

1:05:10 with no known links to or inspiration from any international terrorist organization. Law enforcement sources tell ABC News Johnson was armed for his shooting spree with an assault rifle and two handguns. It's been a tale of of cowardice by an assassin. Johnson served in the Army Reserve from 2009 until 2015, doing a tour in Afghanistan According to police his Facebook page reveals some of that rage against police He liked a page which said, quote, kill everything blue that moved. Overnight police searched Johnson's home in Mesquite Texas. Police say they found bomb making materials ballistic vests rifles ammunition and a personal journal of combat tactics was a well planned well thought out evil tragedy. Micah Johnson sister took to Facebook writing quote the news will say what they think but those who knew him know this wasn't like him

1:06:12 I see the manifesto has now turned into a notebook. Yeah, that's interesting. She screwed up on that report and that's the connectivity that we're talking about So now you have this guy that went and done this violent act independently if you want to believe the Media narrative but the fact he liked somebody on Facebook. Yeah Oh That just proves it let us start Let's start digging into who he likes oh your own social media And that's now we can roll out this term BIE and by Guilty By Association those people are put on a list. Yes, you see and then whoever follows who they follow become BIE yes yeah of course that's how it works yeah well especially for the FBI who clearly creating work for themselves mm-hmm

1:07:05 And like I said, as long as you have the... and we saw this with the war on drugs and everything. It's just like you need bodies to put in front of the camera that say you're doing your job and nothing really gets fixed but We've seen this all before But there was one interesting fact That it was not reported as much as you think it would but the shooter left behind a message I think that this killer obviously had some delusion. There was quite a bit of rambling in the journal, that's hard to decipher. I can just add at the scene where he was killed there was also... He wrote some lettering in blood on the walls

1:07:53 which leads us to believe he was wounded on the way up the stairwell on the second floor of the El Centro building and where we detonated a device to end this standoff. There was more lettering written in his own blood." What did he write? We are trying to decipher that, but he wrote the letters RB RB. And we don't, RB yes so we're trying to figure out through looking at things in his home what those initials mean but we haven't determined that yet Yes I remember that

1:08:37 RB. Was that the only thing I thought there was more than he had written? That was all they reported, what he wrote in blood in two separate places, R.B., so I started doing the digging like what does R.B mean? I can't not know what this means! So they had some theories one of them less Agreed upon theories is he wrote RB for robot bomb Yes, I remember that one. Yeah, which is fair? I mean that's fair but the most widely reported by USA Today heavy Daily Mail and other groups it stood for our BG also known as red black and green

1:09:25 He just didn't finish the G because then he got blowed up? In two places. How do you make that stretch, it's like RB oh I don't have time to write the G and then you run somewhere else and you write it again, RB but these news agencies wrote Oh yeah its still for art on red back black & green which is the pan-Africanist colors so now if you have any association into red black black & green Hello Jamaica Yeah, you see what I'm saying? So any website if you have red black and green or anything with those colors now you get lumped into the group. This is all too convenient Wow

1:10:10 And like I said, these are heavy hitting news agencies that reported this almost as fact which didn't make any sense. He would at least would have finished one of them as RBBG if that's what he meant but he just put R.B in two separate places and it kind of... As you know with any narrative that they roll out it just sticks. No, of course! That was the thing, it was red black and green. Jeez So that wraps up the Dallas shooting. And right, 10 days later we have this event. We want to get to the tragedy in Baton Rouge three police officers killed at a deadly assault three more injured after a gunman attacked them at a busy intersection terrified witnesses hiding in the car capturing the ambush on cell phone video before the shooter was taken down Amy Robach on the scene for us there in Louisiana with the latest good morning Amy

1:11:07 That's right. Good morning, Robin and the headline of The Advocate here in Baton Rouge says it all senseless. The carnage began here behind me after police officers responded to a 911 call about a suspicious looking man carrying guns when those Baton Rouge officers arrived they were targeted shot and three of them killed At 844, the first shots rang out. Just two moments earlier Baton Rouge police scrambled to this busy intersection after receiving a 911 call about a man dressed all in black armed with the rifle and a semi-automatic pistol when officers arrived the suspect 29 year old former Marine Gavin Long began to fire another marine go figure

1:11:56 Arm in the same fashion. Yep as as Micah X Johnson Assault rifle and a handgun yeah ten days later, and he drove all that thing from st Louis to Baton Rouge He wasn't even originally from Baton Rouge right but it was a hotbed because of the Alton Sterling shooting Yeah, it's straight is strong. It's strange I tell you No, it is and I mean I was focused on other things. I remember I was you know It's like the there's so much was exploding around this it was and we were just figuring out that but you know And we really only figured out in with the Louisiana stuff that you know Black Lives Matter was a Soros

1:12:49 outfit and you know the I mean right down to the founder of BLM living in a Soros house. You know that's the stuff I was looking at then didn't even look at this is very interesting why like it so we have two people within 10 anything throughout American history We haven't had that many black militant, black radical shootings of cops. Well there hadn't been that many cops killed since 9-11 it was a humongous number you know five eight it was a big number and then within two days I mean ten excuse me 10 days you have two shooters armed in the same fashion doing highly tactical shootings of police officers with similar backgrounds

1:13:36 We're similar backgrounds. Ex-military, they are in the same fashion and they have this quote unquote pro black ideology. Now let me guess was this uh what was his name? Gavin Long. Did he like some bad groups on Facebook I'm just guessing? Uh we're gonna get there but let's get into his ex marine background The suspect who fatally shot three officers in Baton Rouge on Sunday before being killed by police has been identified as a former Marine sergeant. Gavin Long, a 29-year old African American man was according to a person briefed on the investigation from Kansas City and affiliated with an anti government group

1:14:21 This image was published on a Twitter account linked to a website called ConvosWithCosmo.club, a site registered by a person identified as Gavin Long from Kansas City In a tweet posted on Sunday it reads just because you wake up every morning doesn't mean that you're living and just because you shed your physical body doesn't mean that you're dead Shot by an officer down! Shot by an officer down! Sunday's shootings happened at a shopping centre not far from the Baton Rouge Police Headquarters. Shot by the head of a supply, we got an officer down Apparently officers saw a man carrying a rifle and dressed all in black standing behind a beauty supply store We do not have a 20 on the shooter he is right inside

1:15:07 Possibly sniper. Police now believe the gunman lured the officers there to ambush them Sunday's shooting comes just two weeks after police in Baton Rouge shot and killed black man Alton Sterling an incident that led to protests in the city It also follows another police shooting in Dallas last week where five officers were killed and nearly a dozen injured Yeah, I remember it was like an ambush situation is coming back to me now And that's the term that was used in both cases, ambush. And they say he was linked to a anti-government group I think is the term they use but they didn't specify there was a majority white quote unquote anti government group because that's the one that Karen Bass referred to in her clip

1:15:56 But they just left it as is and if you just do the mental jump, oh it had to be a black group he was associated with. Of course! We're trained to think this now And you asked the previous question his connection to I mean with his activity online Yeah, was he liking anything everything bad on face bag? Well, he left for our own line trail. No, it's a hot trail We're gonna get more on the gunman now and military veteran who posted threatening videos may have had ties to militant groups ABCs chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross has the latest Convos with Cosmo. That's me! Using the pseudonym Cosmo, the shooter Gavin Eugene Long posted this video online the day after the five police officers in Dallas were shot and killed It's a time for peace but it is also a time for war And most of times when you want peace you gotta go to war Overnight police and FBI were at the home of Long in Kansas City Missouri where neighbors described him as quiet man divorced with children

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1:26:48 At a flick of the switch, we can adjust character. Change personality. These are not supposed to exist! Raymond Prentiss Shaw... Listen This is a coup. This is rich people funding bad science to put a sleevel in the White House Among the shareholders in Manchurian Global you would find former presidents, opposed kings. Yeah I get it they're big they're huge And you bring me rumors and conjectures? I started with nightmares, rumors, conjectures that's a giant leap forward Somebody got into our heads Neurons got exposed and circuits got rewired What are you doing? I gotta find out what's gonna happen where its gonna happen He is delusional

1:27:39 You swore to me that this was fail safe. No leaks, no glitches I will do whatever is necessary to protect my son We're gonna stop this thing and take them out Hello captain Do you remember me? Wow, okay. So I haven't seen both the Frank Sinatra version which is no way as cool when it comes to sound effects as this is a Denzel Washington version I guess? I don't know of any other one. Yes 2004

1:28:21 The trailer from the previous version didn't have any sound at all. No, neither did the movie! The movie was not that great by today's technical standards but it was of course the brainwashing of a vet... a former... I don't know if it was Marine or military? Yeah just say military. Former soldiers. Brainwashed but by who in the movie Yes. A corporation? Yes, it was in the government. Yeah, Manchurian Corporation Correct! Yes I remember now yes

1:29:06 So now this is where, this is where I reach. You can call it a reach but I have receipts so I don't even need the damn theorem. I was going to fire it up but he doesn't need it! No no not yet okay yeah what I did see here is in the movie you have a corporation made up of former presidents Billionaires, so I'm not looking at the government here on this. We're going into 2016 election we see George Soros has pumped billions of dollars into this whole Black Lives Matter movement Yes What's to say they're not organizations or factions out there that would go the next step? To trigger

1:29:57 Individuals which these two would be perfect candidates you have hyper-hyper Angry anger they're very I mean, there's a lot. Yeah Trump traumatized by war as all the right elements sure They have the functionality of being former soldiers. I mean for long periods of time I think one was like five years other ones four years You can easily build a profile online on these too mm-hmm So you can say that no, this is the type of person we want to push over the edge. Now this is the point where everybody's saying come on Moe! No I'm liking it! What are you talking about? I like where this is going. So what I did was I went and found Mr Gavin Long's first YouTube video First off self-preservation is the first law in nature It's the same thing same way as when America

1:30:51 They put you on the mainstream, they put on the mainstream media that there's a new tyrant or new enemy and they go and physically do an assault on that country. It is the same thing! And it is the same way how when I was in the Marines, I went and fought for United States because there was so called enemy So it's not different from someone fighting against you and assaulting you, and you protecting yourself. It's the same way there is nothing wrong with it You got the right to defend yourself at any moment if someone is assaulting you And gang stalking is an assault on you physically mentally spiritually emotionally and psychologically So you got a right to defend yourself at any moment? You've got a right to preserve your life at any moment you choose then you're gonna be alright

1:31:48 Okay, so he's talking about being psychologically abused Gavin Long Says he was a victim of gang stalking. Yeah, which is as he said in the clip it's Psychological abuse did you hear this report anywhere? No of course not Moe I Didn't even know I thought they would have deleted his YouTube channel by now that's crazy. I'm amazed I found this That is very interesting And what I find even more interesting is if i'm going to build a case against Gavin Long, right? I'm gonna say this guy's crazy because he said he was gang-stalked and gang stalking clearly shows that he's not real. He shows signs of mental illness.

1:32:46 Why didn't they take that angle? It was no, I mean cause you could easily make that case and it's like one plus one is two. He was a quote unquote he thought he was being gang stopped but that was signs of mental illness which led to him doing what he did wrap it up in a nice bow and its over. Yeah well we can't have that. But they didn't, That's not why we're set up. Right! But why would he think he was gang-stalked? Let's just take him for his word. Okay, let's get into the second YouTube clip I follow nature. I'm in tune with nature nowhere in nature you gonna see a goddamn lion Protesting when a gang of hyenas come to attack is ass being will be peaceful protesting holding up signs You're not gonna see it in nature anywhere

1:33:38 Because self-preservation is the first law of nature every animal in nature I know human beings are not animals, but you have the right to preserve yourself You can choose to and even you don't have to fight back. That's that's the difference between human beings and animals You have the choice? You see but if you choose to fight back there are no consequences So that's that's the difference so in a lot of ties y'all don't even know that harassment is a felony Stalking with harassment is a damn felony. That's the felony charge You definitely have the right to defend yourself And if someone is and you know gang stalking is they're trying to tempt you they trying to make you attempt suicide that's attempted murder If someone is trying to attempt you to force to force you into suicide

1:34:29 Isn't that attempted murder? Come on now. Let's open our eyes, get it together. Hey defend yourself at all costs stand in your righteousness die in your righteousness period Wow you know June 10th 2016 so this is before before all this Yes, this is his very first YouTube video. Right but I'm it's what he leaves off with but i'm saying i'm seeing an article from June 10th 2016 New York Times about a guy who complained that he was being gang stalked and he uses the term ti's which I just heard in

1:35:14 Yes in this video and that stands for targeted individual. This is some paranoid stuff man now Of course it may be true but this is people who believe that you're walking around and people bump into you on purpose and they're targeting you and they're harassing you and your a TI a Targeted individual, and there's groups of people who feel that they are also targeted individuals by the gang stalking and this is so widespread and just just Add on to the point you made, you remember the naval shipyard shooter? Yes. Yeah yeah that was another crazy one He was saying they were using low frequency Yeah he heard voices in his head Right! He changed the hotel room three times and even took and carved on him shotgun It was a low energy something weapon So I mean we see these people they're saying something

1:36:13 And like I said, either he's mentally ill which would explain why he did what he did or he is actually a TI which explains why he did what he did. But we have to look at it and see whats going on here! Yeah... Then you have the timeline of two former military people doing these types of shootings ten days apart. Also with this article in the New York Times coming out before both shootings Right That's a coincidence. And on top of all that vice does especially on the nightmare world of gangstalking Oh, how convenient scary music has many names getting stalking mob stalking community stalking you're in the middle of this ridiculous irrational impossibility that is real and as happening

1:37:28 First, The Guardian revealed the National Security Agency is collecting telephone records of millions of Verizon customers. Surveil someone through their phones, certainly through their television sets... The last year and a half he's been systematically followed by a group of people Does the FBI use drones for surveillance on U.S soil? Yes. New Associated Press investigation shows that the Bureau has its own little air force with scores of planes flying over American cities, recording video and tracking cell phone conversations. He has a man outside of his house!

1:38:03 in a hood, like basically like a hood. It looks... and we can't Well this almost sounds like gang stalking or something have you heard of that? Many of the things that victims of gang stalking describe are also symptoms of mental disorders We're not having a group hallucination This is actually something that's happening Yeah, they also call it satellite targeting and some of some people believe that the satellites are used to put The the common thread here is voices in your head telling you to do horrible things which sounds a lot like MK ultra to me Which is always linked to governmental agencies what I'm saying is if corporate America or corporate interests

1:38:49 Want to sway and that's the point. That's the whole narrative of man-sharing candidate Yeah, they're trying to get their guy in the White House or gal in this case a 2016 We have to show this racial unrest How do we do it? We ratcheted up. We got people killing cops dead in the street Wow Okay, just saying yeah What corporation what corporation would with that behoove open society Or those types. I'm not just gonna put all the sorrows, but... No let's do it! Come on. Let's put it all on him. He is an icon of many people like him But they're just successful more than keeping it a secret That's some sophisticated stuff man if he's going to those lengths But I will say he's the guy who in January this year said Well we gotta get rid of Trump

1:39:50 I gotta find this interview and the question was well or the statement was well, you know It's like eight months away. You know that's what are you gonna do? And he says in a revolution eight months is a long time So who the hell knows? Well there you have it. Yeah Let's get like I said, this is a reach but we have one of the shooters in his own words Saying that he's at TI or targeted individual and nobody latches on to this in the news media It's kind of like self-rich

1:40:31 When something is not reported, that's even more glaring than when they do report it. Exactly! This is a slam... I mean you could roll this footage of him saying oh he's a and in the last clip we heard him say the signs of mental illness it writes itself why ignore? Yeah well yes that was not what that was not the desired outcome So let's just get more into in this next clip how gang stalking actually works The gang-stalking experience started for me when I noticed these black SUVs and other police vehicles driving slowly along the street, but they never came up to me or said anything. And then I had seven or eight helicopters hovering directly over my apartment and then it goes... And it keeps happening, keeps happening. It begins to dawn on me that something is going on and this continued on

1:41:32 Here comes the gang stalking helicopter. It's confusing to humans trying to understand gang stalking, why would they do this to me? Why would they do these weird petty little things that may even just irritate me at some moment if you were to ask me what gang stalking is it's a way to slowly kill people using their own decisions Wow, wow this is great. This is good stuff. Now that took it right out of last statement to what he said what happened in Baton Rouge Let that sink in they use your own decisions to make you kill yourself geez Gavin Gavin Long said would they try to force you to kill yourself? Yep

1:42:27 He ends up from Kansas City, I said St. Louis before but Kansas City all the way Baton Rouge behind a beauty supply store and all black with two guns to ambush cops how does that happen ten days after we have this mass shooting in Dallas? You know the voices in his head nobody wants to even We saw the same, like I said we saw the same thing with the shipyard shooting. These people changed hotel rooms three times in one night. What is going on? I don't have answers, I have questions and it's just something that we need to investigate but Vice digs in a little more and gets to the bottom of gang stalking. When I told my family about this It's almost like

1:43:14 Get like a non sequitur reply from the computer. It's like it was just they could they just kind of looked at me Like I'm not even I'm not even hearing this and I'm really not interested in that my father the the The rocket scientist, the doctorates in mathematics when I tell him anything about this one of the main points of discrediting me is saying that it's like you just have to be negative and dark about everything. You have to because of your own dissatisfaction at being unemployed. It's an understandable point of view. Somebody who is disgruntled with life in general might flock to an idea yeah there are evil reptilians doing all to us

1:43:57 I'm so miserable or whatever. Oh, I gotta hear that bit again! That was great. It's an understandable point of view it's like somebody who is disgruntled with life in general might flock to an idea yeah there are evil reptilians doing it all to us and thats why... I am so miserable or whatever Hmm. Mo, promise me if you ever hear voices in your head and you're not wearing your headphones and it's not me call me. I will... You will be one of the first people to call! Call ME! Wait. Do you see what Vice did there? Did you see what they did there?! It's the sleight-of-hand. They make you seem like you're covering it seriously Oh, of course! And then it's the lizard people Of course but that's actually what these guys are saying No doubt

1:44:52 Like I said, it always comes back to the reptile. Well and it also discredits what we're doing here you know because obviously there's a large contingent that could be identified as reptilian believers whether it's literal or figurative doesn't make that much difference but it's kind of like a BIE of conspiracy podcasters. Believers in reptilians. They plant these stories out there that you latch on to and then it discredits you. But I was prepared for that! Of course! I came prepared... of course ...to not be discredited. San Diego, mom!

1:45:37 It's the thing nightmares are made of. You know, it is so creepy that I decided to have a bolt put on the door and i'm having my son sleep in here with me. Creepy only begins to describe it. It was like an alternate reality really When she'd get home from work Faseeka Tafara started noticing things out of place in her home They were just all open but what was weird is for example they were open like this all at the same level. F then lights turned on her It's intended to let me k been here essentially, ri drawers have been pulled o every single day for almo finally realized someone h Are people following me? A wonder also well how do th and when I'm not here Then

1:46:27 Yeah, well I'm riveted. What did you find? We're gonna find out in a minute but this is an example of how they do this thing They just come to your house slide out drawers open windows leave stuff where you know it shouldn't be and Hey Mo, hold on a second. Was the Navy shipyard... that was a naval guy I think right? The Navy Shipyard? Yes yes. Was that a black guy as well? Yes he was! Well holy mackerel what are the chances of that and this woman is mom is she white black what does she? Black but shit man I don't hear this with white people do we have any white people examples

1:47:15 You know, it's not in the media but in the community. Oh in the community I'm sure oh Yeah Wow here and then people speaking device clip the one extend about the reptilians he was a white man is well of course Scoffing on the reptiles sure. He's trying to stay safe That's interesting. But I don't want to leave you all hanging on the edge No, no please So let's find out what she found Then Tafara found this small camera in her 11 year old sons bedroom So she took to the internet and started digging. What she found? Something called community or gang stalking It's an eerie practice aimed at your psyche, to make you almost feel like you're going crazy. It's spooky my understanding is that if this is in fact what it is can go on for years Only...you're not! Tafara left her phone recording audio at our house Listen You can hear what sounds like people rummaging around

1:48:15 On one, you can hear what sounds like drilling. So this hole here has been cut into the attic space. Tafara says detectives have been to the house. It's kind of like if it happens again call us but there is not much we can do. Something that makes this even more terrifying. Wow! This is great! We could do a whole other show just on TI. Yes But for the people who want to poo-poo what Gavin Long was saying this lady. No, she can put a camera I mean put her phone in her house recorded evidence of people walking around her home Dinking around in her home what is going on here and you being off the grid guy? OTG yeah You let me know what's going on Shit this that's really interesting especially that well

1:49:15 Again, if you hear any voices Moe call me immediately. I'll do the same but it doesn't seem to target white podcasters right so it's Very I'm not saying I know what happened But when you start connecting the dots and you see how this term cropped up and you see what they use as the genesis for and a catalyst for creating this term And then you start looking at the individuals Even Jeff Sessions himself said, we yeah well yo the four dead bodies uh it was the motive for us doing this. Wow Well I know Well yes and thank you for doing this Moe You really took me on a ride on this last 20 minutes It's great! I'm going to look into this some more

1:50:09 Because now I'm looking at, you know ELF extremely low frequencies. You know how does that work? I am more interested than ever let me put it that way this way but we know that sooner or later whether its us are someone else they're going to figure out This is true and also, as I always say when it starts with us you'll start to see a crop over. You ask why there's only Target towards us? Just give it some time. Yeah just like you get a new bike and you see the same bike everywhere yeah you watch it will happen too

1:50:46 So that's what that's my rap on a BIE. I love it and my theory how this whole thing worked is played out Well, we've learned a lot We have and I think we have work for our producers actually producers get to work Let's let's learn more about this. Let's see if you have any any Anything you can share with us any information any leads. I'd love to be able to follow up on this one in the future episode and Reminded everybody this is a value for value program if you got any value out of this Please let us know go to mo facts calm or direct to our donation page at Mo fund me mo Eve FUND M E dot-com and as I always say

1:51:28 Pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And I look forward to whatever truce we get next week, We'll probably still be on lockdown but i look forward to it Moe take care of yourself buddy! All right have a good one Adam and all of you remember to support us moefacts.com See ya next week Don't make me over Don't make me over

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