49: Brothas Be Voting

00:00 Mofax with Adam Curry for September 19th, 2020. This is episode number 49. And on the other side of the country is my man Mofax. How you doing, brother? Dot com. That's right. My friend Moe, you spell his name M-O-E-F-A-C-T-Z dot com. That's how you spell his name. That's right. Hey Moe, how are you, buddy?

00:35 I'm doing good, Adam. How about yourself? Well, yeah, it's good. I mean, uh, gee, a whole bunch of stuff happened since the last time we spoke. We've had a two-week interval since episode 48. And I guess besides the world burning down, RGB being down, That was pretty funny last night by the way. We got the text from you. We're watching TV. We're watching a movie. You know, it's like a rom-com. So we're all lovey-dovey and laughing and all of a sudden, oh no! Mo just texted me! RGB down! RGB down! Click stop movie. Oh my god. Where were you the day that you heard of Ruth Gader Ginsburg?

01:14 Yeah, and I oh yeah, I went on I brought that new I brought that news to you. Yes you did Congratulations. Oh really. Yeah, you did. Oh wow. Yeah, I had no I didn't realize that yeah, well we didn't either obviously I Went on Rogan Joe Rogan show and that is since the last time we spoke right I We haven't spoken since yeah, you had went on there, but we it hadn't dropped yet, right? Exactly exactly hadn't dropped yet. Did you watch did you listen? Oh, yeah, I listened and I followed the tweets and all the streams and You set the world on fire sir with the with the whole Ados Lesson that you gave mr. Rogan. It was it was interesting. I

02:06 Yeah, obviously Joe had I don't think Joe had ever heard of a DOS But the comments were interesting too. A lot of people like, yay. Other people like, hey man, you don't represent me. I'm like, oh okay. It was very analogous to the Bitcoin stuff. Bitcoin people like, yay, go out and Bitcoin. And a lot of Bitcoin people are saying, you don't represent us. It was like, Ados is now, actually it would be a great cryptocurrency, wouldn't it? The Ados coin, we should only write that down. That's not a bad idea. That's how we could fund the reparations. That is not a bad idea. I'm just gonna write that one down. Ados coin. Okay, something to think about. We'll have Jack Dorsey connected into Cash App, something like that. Ah, Moe, I know you've been real busy and I cannot wait to find out... Well, first of all, how's your week been? How's your two weeks been?

03:00 It's been crazy. Got some appliances delivered and only one of them got installed. The other was placed all around the house, not connected. I had a water leak due to incompetence. The guy unhooked my dishwasher and he didn't hook it back up. Oh, you turned it on. I almost had a swimming pool in my home. Yeah. Luckily, my wife, something just told her to go back in the kitchen and we had a kitchen full of water, water. Oh man. Yeah. So I mean, that's kind of how I'm always been going and just

03:40 Working on you know this clip list burning all that I'll burn us a midnight oil last night Because I got thrown down a mini rabbit hole and I can't wait to present it to you. Okay? Well, why don't we do this? Nobody knows Mo knows of course because he went down all the rabbit holes. He's gonna surprise again the topic for episode 49 is my crypt versus blood looking I Yes, of course. We all we need to do a solid breakdown the the Democratic Convention and the Republican Convention Yes, the sets were banging so You had the Democrats the Democrats in the rebuttal Kim's both had their conventions and we're gonna do a quick analysis of what they wanted to accomplish who they were targeting and

04:35 and what came out of it. So I guess we can just jump right into this Vox. Go ahead. No, I was going to say it's obviously this is all show both sides put on a show. It's a big nudging contest a big persuasion fest. And I guess we're going to look at it from that perspective. Yeah, okay, excellent. Let's... For Americans, the colors red and blue are deeply linked to the Republican and Democratic parties, but it's really only been that way since the 2000 election. After all, this is what election night results used to look like on American TV. Gentlemen, let me tell you this, if they ever teach this machine to talk,

05:13 The wide adoption of color television in the late 1960s and 1970s changed all that. But it still would be several decades before the media settled on the color scheme we know today. From blue to red and what are the easy ones? President Obama has won every one of these blue states. He has to turn states that have been voting blue. To understand where this red state, blue state business comes from, let's go back to the very first time a television network used color maps to report election results. That happened in 1972, which also was the first year that a majority of American television households owned color TVs. Each of the big three networks broadcasted their election coverage in color. But here's what CBS did to differentiate themselves from their competition.

06:00 They created the first color election map in American television history. And just look at Alabama on CBS's map. That oh-so-reliable conservative state, it was colored pure Republican blue. We are a nation of colors. We have so much problem with color. Did you know that this is a new invention as young as 1972? You know, I think I had seen that not so long ago, maybe half a year ago in some context. I looked at it, but I certainly, it was not top of mind. But it makes total sense that it was the advent of television. Yeah, of course. But, you know, just those colors by themselves, there's so much meaning in different colors. I mean, color coding is a big deal.

06:51 Yeah, and this leads to leads me to what I use as the show topic. I so with the reblood against and the Democrats, you have this red and blue dynamic on both sides. And I don't think I need a theorem in here. But if you know anything about Kabbalah and the rose rose cross, You have the red and the blue of the Rose Cross. I don't know anything Rose the Rose Cross I don't know anything about this the rosy is the Rose Cross or the rosy cross is from the Golden Dawn From the hermetic order of the Golden Dawn They have this cross you may want to look it up. Yeah, I have this cross and on one

07:43 Arm of the cross is red and on the other arm of the cross is blue. And the top is yellow and then there's white and then the bottom is a couple other colors. Yes. And when you start looking at the symbolism, a lot of that goes, shares with the gang culture and politics. I just wanted to bring that up. I mean just Wow. It's something there. Now, but that is, is that an occult symbol or is that a true religion? Oh yes, I see it here. Yeah, oh yeah, it's an occult. Yeah, I got it. Well, it's shared by the, it's shared by Masons and the Rosicrucians and even the Catholics, Kabbalah, the Tree of Life. I mean, yes, I don't want to go too far there, but I just want to show this

08:31 Left right red blue. Yeah, it's been a fire water thing that's going on. Yeah, and now it bleeds over to the politics But he ended the clip saying that the Republicans were blue Yeah, and the Democrats were red another switch We got another Dixie crash switch coming up here crazy things that they say never happened And he explains why in the next clip. For its part, CBS would keep the Republican blue and Democratic red scheme through the 1980 election. Those pairings may seem odd today, but they weren't back then.

09:36 That's because blue, as NPR's Ron Elving has noted, was a color closely associated with the Union Army led by Republican Abraham Lincoln. Red, on the other hand, was a color associated with leftists and left-leaning parties throughout the world as it is today. But it wasn't until the 2000 election that the political concept or term Red State vs. Blue State took hold. On that election night, the network anchors and pundits relied heavily on the colored maps to explain how close the race was between George W. Bush and Al Gore. Very soon, those red states and blue states that the country saw over and over again on TV became rooted in American culture. David Letterman was one of the earliest cultural figures to pick up on this just a few days after the 2000 election. Candidates worked out a compromise and thank God not a

10:23 minute too soon here's how it's gonna go George W Bush will be president for the red states. Al W Gore will be president for the blue states. Wow so that's really interesting it was kind of during that that long process I guess the news media felt that red would be more alarming or something wasn't really explained because that was that was the election with the hanging chads. Why did the Republicans agree to this? Why did the Republicans agree to this switch? Because it's very idiotic if you think about it. You were the party of Lincoln because blue represent the Union soldiers and then you had the red Democrats aligned with communist regimes.

11:08 Why would you switch it doesn't make any sense? Well to me, but it's not what I believe is not a show because it just was fascinating Well what I heard in the clip is I heard him say well You know the news were so obsessed with it you know we had the hangin Chad's for three four weeks took a long time the Supreme Court had to get involved and Maybe the news media just figured it'd be more alarming and Or it would get attention? I don't know. I don't know if the Republicans even were aware of it. You know, it just kind of happened. Everyone was focused on hanging chads. So I have this question and I don't know how, I don't have an answer to it, but could this be the sign where the Democrats took over the media complex? Yeah, that's possible. It could be. Because it makes no sense.

12:01 You're the party of Lincoln, you're the party of who freed the slaves, you have the blue, and all of a sudden you give it up and you have your opponents who you've always called communists and liberals and communists, I mean, are used synonymous by the Republicans. You have them in this corner and all of a sudden you just do this switch, which makes no sense. So I just wanted to bring that up just as a point of conversation because It would work perfect now because Trump can say, yeah, we're the party of Lincoln and we're blue, you know, and those commies over there with the red, you know, I just, I mean, I just found it fascinating that this happened and it happened as late as the 80s. Cause as you heard, they said Reagan was the blue states. Oh no, they said it in 2000, right? 2000 during the Bush-Gore election. Wow.

13:00 Yeah, that is weird. It doesn't make any sense why the Republicans would do that. Why they would agree to that. And I see, it seems more to me, and I'm going somewhere with this, why the media It seemed like it was a media creation or a media decision. Yeah, listen to this. This is a quote from Chuck Todd, who I'm not a fan of, but he does meet the press. For years, both parties would do red and blue maps, but they always made the other guys red, said Chuck Todd, political director of chief White House correspondent for NBC News during the Cold War, who wanted to be red.

13:39 Indeed prior to the breakup of the Soviet Union a little more than two decades ago red was a term of derision So it was the let it was the media rooting for yeah, there you go It was yeah, so it was totally a media thing and they said you know what let's make them the a-holes perfect Yeah, that's what happened. So I just wanted to bring that up just as a point, you know of How things are always fluid in politics? And how these two sides can whoever's holding the power can push the other one in the red corner and I think that has something to do with boxing as well with the red corner and blue corner but I didn't have time to look in that. But now I want to move on and get into the media's rundown and how they cover the national conventions and we have CNBC with the newsworthy moments from the Democratic National Convention.

14:33 I give you my word. If you entrust me with the presidency, I will draw on the best of us, not the worst. I'll be an ally of the light, not the darkness. Oh boy. It's time for us, for we the people, to come together. If you think things cannot possibly get worse, trust me, they can and they will if we don't make a change in this election. If we have any hope of ending this chaos, we have got to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depend on it. This election is the most important in the modern history of this country. And we need Joe Biden as our next president.

15:18 Let me tell you about my friend, Joe Biden. When he talks with someone who's lost their job, Joe remembers the night his father sat him down to say that he'd lost his. When Joe listens to a parent who's trying to hold it all together right now, He does it as a single dad who took the train back to Wilmington each and every night so he could tuck his kids into bed. This is the leader who wrote the Violence Against Women Act and enacted the assault weapons ban, who as vice president implemented the Recovery Act. which brought our country back from the great recessions. He championed the Affordable Care Act, protecting millions of Americans with preexisting conditions. That pretty much sums it up. That's what I saw. So I want to run down four points quickly from what I took away from this. And what I'm showing here with this clip is how the news covered

16:17 the convention, how it was covered in the media. Now we're going to go way deeper into the inner workings of the conventions, but first, you heard a lot of light, darkness talk. You heard Joe Biden say, I'm an ally of the light, not the darkness. I mean, he used darkness, not dark. Well, you know that, you know, that there were the, in 2016, that was a strategy that someone for Clinton came up with is that And I think Scott Adams talked about this a lot. That was a very persuasive word to say Trump made a very dark speech. It's dark, their whole thinking is dark. So that is intentional of course. His inauguration speech was labeled as dark. I remember that.

17:03 Two, you have Michelle Obama. Vote like our lives depend on it. And she doubles down recently on her podcast saying being black is a crime, not like a crime, is a crime. So it's a lot of victimization and triggering and trauma-based nudging going on there with that statement. 3. Obama, he says Joe Biden is a single dad. He's trying to draw Joe Biden as a single parent, I think, to be able to empathize and sympathize with them.

17:46 Target target audience of the of the Democrats being single mothers. Yeah, or one other target or it I'm like, why did why did he bring that up? Yeah, you know the single dad thing and then why the media clip this what we have to look at in this soundbite is Why did they patent I think I didn't do any editing of this clip I'll let it go for the you know minute and whatever it was and this is what they had um, and then lastly you have Kamala Harris coming out saying He wrote the violence against women's view. Yeah, hold on Kamala You might not want to put violence and women in a Senate same sentence when you talk about Joe Biden I'm just saying And then the assault weapons band are they tone-deaf? Did they not realize that Joe Biden got called out? Oh

18:41 For one to take people's guns by that guy. He was a democrat. I forget his name, but Joe Biden accused him of being a plant. It was somewhere I think in West Virginia or somewhere. So if you're trying to win a center Left voters in these on swing states. You might not want to dump your chest about banning guns Yeah, just just this part took away from it. Well also the the the 10-year assault weapons ban Resulted statistically in no difference. There was just no difference. I

19:22 Yeah, it turns out handguns do the job. Of course you get some AR-15s or AK-47s, you get some very unfortunate mass shootings and it's always, oh it's that one, but no, statistically from what I understand nothing really changed in that 10 year period. So I'll point all this out to say, I think the Democrats have a real messaging problem. Because they're trying to cater to too many pockets. And I've always said this, that the Democrats is not Senator ideas like the Republicans are there a coalition of all these different factions and now they're trying to bring in. What I call the center left those swing voters it may be frustrated with trump they voted for trump there more centuries and.

20:15 Now they might look at give Joe Biden a look right, but you're gonna run away with this banning guns talk and then they're trying to do the single mothers thing and traumatize black folks and Just light and dark. I just don't I mean they're all over the place Yeah with their messaging now what? Well inside baseball. Did you talk to your mom or anyone? What'd your wife think about it? I'm sure more and more people around you watched and I think right now it's only two, and this is funny I'm gonna say this, there's only two groups of people that are up to change. And that's the center left white men, and white women, and black men.

21:04 Those are only two groups that are not everybody else is on a dug in I mean we already talked about black women We're gonna talk about them some more You know you your younger voters are gonna go with that are not dis Disenchanted with Joe Biden that really hate Trump. They're gonna go with Biden. Yeah, I agree Trump's gonna get his same his same voters and So I think that those are the target audiences. And I think it was a real miss at this convention to push the way they did by the Democrats. Now, the Republicans have some misses too, and I'll go over that as well. Because what I'm doing is, you know, to make myself clear, I'm not voting because nobody's offered me any tangibles. So I can sit back and analyze

21:57 where the two parties were successful and unsuccessful. So I guess we can go ahead and go into number five. Remember back in 2016 when Trump asked, what do you have to lose? Well, now we know our health care, our jobs, our loved ones. Black, Latino and indigenous people are suffering and dying disproportionately. And this is not a coincidence. It is the effect of structural racism, of inequities in education and technology, healthcare and housing, job security and transportation. The injustice in reproductive and maternal healthcare, in the excessive use of force by police. They see people calling the police on folks minding their own business just because of the color of their skin.

22:54 They see an entitlement that says only certain people belong here. How are you prioritizing the many things you have to do as we try to tackle in a way that we haven't before systemic racism in the city? It really is about economic empowerment. And let's be clear, there is no vaccine for racism. We've got to do the work. For George Floyd. Brianna Taylor for the lives of too many others to name. Oh brother. Uh, say their names. So Mr. Curry, I want you to make a note of saying their names and their names. Yep. Another miss is all this police talk. Why are y'all talking about the police? Kamala, you're seen as the top cop.

23:52 Joe Biden is seen as the author of the 94 crime bill. Stay away from this. It doesn't I don't understand what they're trying to do here. You're not gonna rebrand yourself as you know, anti-police at this point no matter what you do, you should just let the groups that's pushing that handle that. Another miss, I mean, these are unforced errors. I don't know who's running the show over there at the DNC, but They're doing a very poor job. I think they're tone deaf and and perhaps they really still believe that they have black men in the bag. Sorry to use the metaphor, but I think I don't think they see the.

24:34 from time to time it looks like, oh okay we got to shut Kanye up or something like that, but it's really not much. They don't care. They just absolutely don't care. And I think they, you know, you've got just the same people talking over and over. Look who the campaign people are. Yeah, they're lazy. I watched most of the top speakers, you know, Michelle Obama, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Michelle, excuse me, Kamala Harris. And the interesting thing was that Michelle Obama snubbed Kamala Harris. Did you know that? No, no, no, no. What did she say about her? What'd she say? Nothing. Oh, she didn't say anything about her at all. Okay. No, she didn't. She didn't mention her. And I thought that was, I mean, come on. I mean,

25:24 Brock picked her. We know Joe's not calling the shot. So, you know Do you think Barack really picked her? Do you really I mean he had to say yes, obviously at a certain point Do you really think that he picked her? He wasn't he wasn't even endorsing Joe Biden for the longest time He didn't think he should run as far as I as I could tell it's not a theory but it's a passing thought that I think they pull Obama back in. He wants to be on a yacht, you know, he wants to go to Martha's Vineyard, and they're like, no, you gotta do, you know, four more years, eight more years. You gotta do this, this is how it works, you're locked in.

26:04 Yeah, it's like one of those Spotify deals. You know you get a lot of money, but sorry you gotta play ball right? Oh, what they call the hip-hop a 360 We got you we got your merch Obama we got we got everything And he's late on this book too. His book is a year and a half late Everyone's pissed about that too. He doesn't want he doesn't want to write the book I don't think he really wants to do anything but He has to I think quarterback this thing back to to a win there He's the only commodity they really have any and we as we've discussed in the show He's right not really a commodity anymore because he can't act the black activate the black vote anymore, right? And I don't think Michelle did it. I mean she's Michelle Obama seems like she's a trouble troublemaker now and

26:57 You know what she said on her podcast and just you know not mentioning Kamala. There's a lot of stuff. She just seems to have all kinds of issues and agendas. That's because she doesn't want, I don't think I don't think they want anything to do with politics. They want everything that politics had to offer them. They do want to do their eight years and then they go off and be celebrities. Right. And it's just not the case. They keep getting pulled back in. You know, the media was speaking in the media before how they actually called the shots. They were trying to make her the vice president. Right. She has no interest. But they were trying to put her out there and like basically shame her.

27:40 And you see this from time to time, where these factions shame people into roles they don't want to do. And just as a quick aside, we saw this with LeBron James and the shooting in the LAPD or the LA Sheriff's Office trying to get him to donate money to find the shooters. I mean, right. When you're this high level, they can easily nudge you to do things that you don't want to do. Well, LeBron has a whole other story. He's got all kinds of problems with people. I'm just saying on that level, you get pulled and pushed and prodded to where this is the problem of being a product. And we always talk about people not personally, but as a product. And when you're a product, you have to perform as they see fit.

28:32 I think we left off at what, five? Yep. Alright, so we're done with the DNC. Okay, the DNC big fail is basically what I'm hearing. There was nothing there, it was milk toast. No clear messaging. They're running on fumes over there. And I want to say this, just to point out, always pay attention to the titles of videos. YouTube. The DNC, the title was, watch the most newsworthy moments from the Democratic National Convention. The RNC was, watch highlights from all the four nights of the RNC. There's a

29:16 Big difference between which one sounds more exciting, but I guess we can go ahead and jump into the highlights from the RNC. Now more than ever, America needs four more years of a warrior in the White House. I'm here because we need my husband to be our president and commander in chief for four more years. He's what is best for our country. On November 3rd, you need to ask yourself, who do you trust to rebuild this economy? In a new term as president, we will again build the greatest economy in history, quickly returning to full employment, soaring incomes and record prosperity. It's all on the line. President Trump believes in you.

30:03 you. He lifts you up to live your American dream. You are all, you are qualified, you are powerful and you have the ability to choose your life and determine your destiny. Let the Democrats take you for granted. Now I heard it. I heard it. Wait, wait. Yeah. Go ahead. I was gonna say how did that play for you? I mean I was like, simmer down Donna Summer. It's all right Kimberly. We're all here. We can hear you. It was a bit much. Until the end, we know who she was talking to. Did that work?

30:44 Who was she talking to, Adam? Enlighten me who she was talking to. Sounds like she was talking to our black and brown communities when she says don't let the Democratic Party take advantage of you. Because if you listen to the way she delivered the lines, it seemed like she was supposed to end before don't let them take you for granted. And then it's like, it was kind of like she threw, if you can play that last maybe. Yeah, it was like a throwaway. Yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying. Hold on, let me play that last bit for you. Here we go. Your destiny! Don't let the Democrats take you for granted. Yeah. And when I heard that, I'm like, oh, they're not talking to black, let's be clear, let's be clear here. They are not talking to black women because they know black women

31:42 don't want anything to do with the Republican Party. And certainly not the prototype Republican Kimberly Guilfoyle. She's a prototype of what Democratic voters, women would just dislike. So I think the bell of the ball, if I can say with much glee, is the black man. We're finally wanted by somebody. And it feels good, Adam. It feels real good. Even from Kimberly Guilfoyle. Nice! I'm so happy to hear that. And what I mean by that is this Republican Party

32:25 I think I mentioned it to you one time, they have this strategy of plus, the plus group or plus, it's something plus strategy of they know they have their base. They're 43% or whatever like that. If they can add 1% here or there in these critical states, if you're talking about Philadelphia, if you're, we're talking about these urban, quote, quote, quote, urban centers. Philadelphia, Detroit, you have some in North Carolina. If you can get the negative vote, they're clear. They don't need you to go vote. They just need you to not go vote for Democrats. And it's a win.

33:22 I think the Republicans, I think the first night they had four black men speak. Yeah. Most of them clergymen, a good portion of them clergymen. We know all about the clergymen. Yes we do. I think that they realize their role to another four years hinges on what the black man does. And we've been talking about this for a year. That's right. Because it's the volume. They always talk about the rate, the rate, you know, 90% 90, no black women vote 90%. It's the volume of the black vote. If you don't have both black men and women voting for the Democrats, they don't win.

34:13 And I think black men are just like pretty much fed up. Nobody says anything to us Nobody, you know even acknowledges us so it's like, you know what? And you have this whole tangible thing going, which it takes me back to the trick baby. Oh, yeah. One of our favorite golden clips. And what how do you handle the black man when it comes to do you? Well, let's just go into the clip. Yes, this is the dinner scene. The movie is from 1974. I was on this earth. It's you liberals who have lifted them up.

34:50 Paul, you conservatives make a mistake. You can't afford to strangle hope in people. Without hope, people become dangerous. No, Howard, you liberals have let them invade our society. You give them jobs, political jobs. Paul, you missed the point. It's only the smart ones we move up. That makes it even worse. No, no, we have to move them up. If we leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a leader against us. But if we raise him up into white society, we neutralize him. He feels compelled to try to act like us.

35:26 He loses his identity and his racial anger. If he has any. He becomes alien to his brothers. They realize he sold them out and they grow to hate him. He becomes worthless to them and safe for us. No, thank you. In fact, in his love for the creature comforts except for his color, he's become one of us. It's such a good clip. I love hearing that. So listening to that I know we're gonna go back a little bit But if I can hear a little bit of Gilford again and really listen to what she says Maybe the last 30 seconds of that clip. She's talking straight to a group of people saying Be who you want to be and listen to it one more time. I

36:15 the You are qualified, you are powerful, and you have the ability to choose your life and determine your destiny. Don't let the Democrats take you for granted. Alright, I have to say something. This is my systemic racism because I watched that and here's what I and probably every other white dude thought was exactly what I said.

36:55 Calm down. It was not even hearing this message and I of all people should have definitely heard what she was saying. It was like nails on a chalkboard to me. It was very abrasive. Right, but you heard it. But you know, I'll be fair. I didn't hear it in real time. Her abrasiveness, I was like, calm down lady. But when I was clipping it, And here listening to over and over again. I'm like, hold on. Yeah, what this is what I heard once I actually got past her Delivery and actually got to the meat of what she was saying us over here. The Republican Party are not gonna dink around with y'all Manipulate y'all traumatize y'all you're free to be who you want to be. Um, I

37:51 And it was a dog whistle to black and Hispanic men. And no one caught it but you, Mo. I hope other black and Hispanic men heard it because I didn't and this was not a thing. Not a thing in the media. It's very interesting. I didn't hear it. It's crazy. And it is not that, it's not that I don't think a lot of black or brown men were watching the RNC to be honest with you. Yeah. But it speaks more to their strategy. Yes. Of Here's this community that's been poked and prodded and manipulated for year after year after year. Now that's why now when you go back to the trick baby clip, you have the liberals saying you have to manipulate them. You have to steer them. You have to nudge them. And the Republicans like just let them be who they want to be.

38:44 That's what I took away from it after I could get past her delivery. Well and also just in differences in that clip, man boy do you hear with the music and it's so well produced even without seeing it. The audio of the speakers, the Democrats chose for a zoom call type thing. a lot of back and forth and hosted by actresses and just it wasn't a slick show. And of course, Trump had his Mark Burnett guys, you know, who these are professional producers like like the first lady, Melania. Holy crap. It was The Bachelor. Beautiful.

39:22 So on the heels of this, the RNC, I have this PBS clip from Shemichael Singleton and he kind of echoes what I've been saying previously during the show. But at this RNC to broaden that appeal, to raise those favorability numbers, we have seen a concerted effort to court voters of color, to court women. Are those appeals breaking through, do you think? i think that the appeals to break through a certain percent of african-american men uh... donald trump did fair better than that ronnie did and also john mccain uh... with with african-americans generally speaking but more importantly african-american men and i was certainly think and their army and john mccain were far more palatable individuals were palatable leaders when you compare them to someone like donald trump yet

40:13 he was somehow able to get better numbers. And so I think if he can somewhat replicate that, maybe increase it by a percent or two in certain places like Wisconsin or some place like Michigan where there are larger African American populations, or Ohio, when you think about the urban areas, that could somewhat benefit him, but I think when you think about his appeal to minorities, I don't think he's really focusing on African American women. They absolutely do not like President Trump. But again, I do think when he talks a lot about criminal justice reform, when he's talking about pardons, I do think, and I know a lot of people may find this to be a bit skeptical, and those who may be aware perhaps are wondering how is this even possible?

40:55 I do believe that there are some out there who may find his message of interest when compared to someone like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Wow. What percentage, because of course not all Adolfs, but actually I think Latinx, the Latinx men, maybe easier for them to say, you know, I want to support the Republicans, or in this case I just say I want to support Trump. What percentage do you think of ADOS men really can do it? And what, there's got to be a portion that is still largely thinking that anything but. It's not the portion, and we have to parse these things correctly. I've been on this thing since show number one. It's the negative vote.

41:47 Right. I have other things to do Tuesday. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. So what how much of the negative is it? Just 5% maybe that would be enough. I have an answer for you for you that are later on in the show. Okay, all right. So you have to hang around. Yes, I will hang out for the show. All right, good. Let's continue. But Karen Hunter, I gotta give her credit. Oh really? Okay. We discussed this on show 46 She identified this as well that nobody's talking to the black male voter With Trump, 15% of black men actually pulled the lever for Trump. I think it's gonna be the same and it's that Kanye group. It's that group that just the guys just called up that they feel not powerful anymore that the world is shifting. There's all of these different things going on. We got they's and them's now. I don't know what to do with that. We got women out there talking about they don't need us. We got this and this and that. It resonates with them and I was thinking it still does.

42:46 That portion's not going away. As a matter of fact, I think he might have galvanized more. I think he's gonna get a lot of black men voting for him. Nobody's talking to black men. 866-801-8255. Not a single one of these can. Everyone's over-indexing on black women. You're not gonna win against Trump just talking to black women. You're not gonna win against Trump not engaging in talking to black men. And I'm saying this because I don't hear anybody talking to black men. Period. And the only voice that actually resonates with black men is Donald Trump. You know, Karen Hunter, when I hear her, and I, of course, I remember the clip, but it's good to hear it again.

43:29 It seems like she's someone who goes to work and just does her job and really doesn't believe in it or anything. She may actually be a lot more switched on than we think. It's just she has to do this for her. That's what she does. I mean, when you put the amount... I have to give her credit. When you put the amount of work that she has put in to get where she's at, you don't want to rock the boat at her age. And I'm not being an agent here. I'm just saying that When you get baked into corporate America, you can't really rock the boat because we're where's left. I mean podcasting YouTube I mean No, you think I'm being done. I know any but I'm really not you're absolutely I'll give you an example of Roland Martin Roland Martin at one time was on CNN and he made that gay comment about I think Beckham and

44:27 Was that it? That got him kicked off? That was a while ago. That got him ostracized and then he, the Donna Brazile and you know, the giving the questions and that kind of thing. But I'm just saying it's a very, especially for quote-unquote black people, There's no golden parachute. I mean you could be hot today and gone tomorrow So I got I got I know I'm hard on her sometimes But she has her finger on the pulse her and Stephen a Smith Because they tried to push this Lincoln Party thing where black people should vote one cycle for Republicans And they kind of got you know whack-a-mole like get back in your home kind of thing so

45:15 She know she gets it and she use a key word there and I think we need to introduce it to our show The over indexing is the thing I talked about with that with the rate They're always talking about the rate 90% 90% 90% night, but you don't have the volume right and it's clear. Oh a 2012 black men lined up around the block to vote for Barack Obama less than 1208 and he won Not so much. I mean we one of our first shows were talking about the turnout of black people in in 2016 and Without the turnout it was like I think I forget the numbers. It was less than 60% Yeah, I think it's gonna be really close to 50% maybe less Wow, because you have one group of people saying to you

46:12 You don't matter. We only need to use you for cannon fodder. We don't have anybody speaking to you. Who at the DNC spoke for black men? No, I didn't hear a single one and I watched all of it. Pretty much all of it. I don't think any of them did. Who in Black Lives Matter speak for black men? Nobody. So you look and it's like, y'all don't have my interest at heart. And I've been through four years of Trump. He's not the boogeyman you say he is. Who I'm speaking for is the solid majority of black men. Because I'm one of them. I don't go out here and protest. I don't have a sign in my yard. Other than this show, I mean, I watch politics as a sport. I mean, more than... And unfortunately, unfortunately, sports has become politics. That's the sad part. You know what? And I think more black men are becoming

47:15 I don't want to use the word engaged because that signifies that they're going to take action, but they become more informed on politics in this time. Because it's like, oh, you're using me, you're using my name, you're using my image, my likeness, but you have nothing for me. And you hear more and more this silent rumble. And it's kind of, I can't explain it. But it's this dance that black men do when we're amongst each other like yeah, so so about the election You stay at home. What are you doing Tuesday? I'm not going nowhere Right what what do you do a Tuesday right and it's nobody motivates nobody motivates

48:03 us to go out and if we're not mo- I'm gonna use the word accurately, activated, then the Democrats lose. And I think they've picked up on it. Do you feel that the Black Lives Matter and United in Black and all this stuff that's- I mean it's the NBA, it's the NFL, it's even roller derby. I mean it's- every single sport is cluttered with this. Do you think that detracts from the so-called black man's willingness to participate in the Democratic voting bloc? I'm gonna use this word and I've never used it before on this show, but when you have people walking around like LeBron James, 6'9", 260, 70 pounds, talking about we're being hunted, it makes black men sound like pussies. And we don't like it. I've talked to my friends

49:02 It's not that that's not the messaging and I'm sorry for that lewd language but I want I said it with emphasis because afraid Afraid do you know who my grandfather is with my great-grandfather is who my father is right? It's so to say I walk around afraid. Yeah That's not in the protocol. I didn't really And it really doesn't sit well To say we're afraid, I mean, we're aware, I mean, we talked about last show about the talk that our parents had with us, and it's a series of conversations that's intra-racial and interracial, but we're not afraid. And when you do that, and you use your mouthpieces to talk like that, and, oh, being black is a crime. No, not at all. And, you know, it really,

50:06 it's infuriating because it's like you're treating me like a child but I mean I'll reel it back in but I'm just... No, I understand. It's interesting because I asked you a question specifically about Black Lives Matter what came back was what the what key figures are saying so it's specifically LeBron and specifically Michelle so it's It's not the signage necessarily, it's the people who are all in and who are doing anything but playing their sport. They're talking and they're talking a bunch of smack. Right, and then on top of that you're celebrating people with questionable pasts and guys that get up, put their work boots on every day, go to work,

51:00 Come home and you know be good dads. You're trying to lump us in you know with these these unsavory figures and it's it's just it's it's a real it's a separation going on is what it is it's a real I know I highlighted the the White Civil War mm-hmm, but it's happening over here, too It's happening on this side too. We want to be respected as men and nobody is doing that. And as I said before, the election of Donald Trump, not him himself, but the restoration of the masculinity, the aspect of masculinity, I think it resonates with a lot of so-called black men. Had a real effect. It's a

51:52 And then when you hear, like you said, the RFC, we're going to get into some of the people that spoke. But I have this next clip, it's from Bloomberg Quick Takes, and it goes into, no, excuse me, excuse me, I'm getting ahead of myself. I think we left off at PBS, Karen Hunter, and then now we're going to go to... The Black Male Voter Project? This new project! Yeah, let's get into that. All right, we are just months away from election day and it is going to be a big one whether you vote early by mail or in person. Every single vote counts. But currently in the US, listen to this, about half, half of black men who are registered to vote have not done so in the last five

52:39 consecutive elections. And that's what the Black Male Voter Project is working to change. Tonight, we're joined live by Mondale Robinson with the Black Male Voter Project. Mondale, thank you for being with us. Tell me about the mission of this project and why it's taking on added significance this election year. Yeah, so thank you for having me. I want to say that actually I think it's been important a long time, unfortunately, because people have not prioritized the needs and ideas and issues that are important to black men. It just seems like this year is extremely important. I would argue that black men participating in the election is better

53:17 for everybody, especially those who make up the lower wrongs of society. Because when we vote, we vote for issues that better everybody, not just a select group of folk. The mission of Black Male Voter Project is one that is extremely simple. It is our job to create more super voters that are Black men, meaning brothers who vote every election cycle. And we're working hard to do that. Throughout traditional campaigning, and introduced a new way of campaigning called BMEP-editorial approach. We basically use Maslow hierarchy of needs and behavior psychology to change the psyche of black men about voting. Whoa, sounds like some deep programming happening. Mind control is what it sounds like. Yeah.

53:59 Know I'm getting you to play a lot of clips over again and some of these clips we might can breeze through and not really discuss more But this one right here. Yeah, he said a lot in that He has a thing called being first of all he has this Project called the black male voter project this guy is W Uh, Mon- oh, hold on, his name is- Mondale Robinson? Mondale Robinson, yes. He's from North Carolina, me and him are the same age, so I mean, so I can identify with him because we're both from the same place and we're the same age. And he comes up with this thing called the B M E P

54:43 Additory approach and it's copyrighted Of course I mean actually actually in the in the comment it actually had the copyright symbol beside the Additory approach without which I felt funny. He's like, yeah, and it's we need to change the way the black man thinks holy crap see this this childlike and then he says We might have to play a little bit of it again, but he says that we need to Use math or was it Maslow's? Yeah, what is that? hierarchy We're gonna get I got that. I got I got it on deck. I mean, that's not basically your knees Needs this is the last 20 seconds of that guy. That's when he really rolled it all out. Maybe maybe last 30 Maybe last 30 seconds. Okay

55:40 those who make up the lower wrongs of society because when we vote we vote for issues that better everybody not just a select group of folk. Stop, stop, stop. We got to break this down piece by piece. So first of all this lends to what I talked about last week of us being the sacrifice. Right. He didn't say that we vote for us. When we vote, we better everybody else. Yes. I don't think that's how voting works. Yeah, you... I'm not sure. Be quiet. Who are you? Be quiet. Follow the rules. Vote for everybody else. So I just want to take that piece out and continue on.

56:19 Project is one that is extremely simple. It is our job to create more super voters that are black man meaning brothers who vote every election. Stop the clip. He wants to create super voters. Yeah, it's not informed voters. Super voters. Not motivated voters. Not, you know, not stimulated voters with giving them policy and tangibles. No, no, no, no, no. He wants super voters. Let's see how he'll make them super voters. Brothers who vote every election cycle. And we're working hard to do that. We threw out traditional campaigning and introduced a new way of campaigning called BMEP aditory approach. We basically use Maslow hierarchy of needs and behavior psychology to change the psyche of black men about voting.

57:07 So, his auditory is something with some sound or some kind of... No, additory. A-D-D-I-T-O-R-Y. Oh, additory. Yeah, additory. So it's like, I'm guessing adding us into the fold? I don't know what he means by additory. Additory. But it's basically, we need to change the sight. Now imagine any other group. You say, you know, let's just go out there. Let's, um, black women voters. We need to change your psyche to get them to vote. Can you imagine? Now black women, when they, the black ink women, I don't want to, right. And I want to be clear when I say black women, we're talking about before everybody gets triggered. Um, we're talking about the black ink women.

57:58 They've made their demands quite clear. We want a black female vice president. We want a black female Supreme Court justice, you know, they laid it out Now, what if somebody came in the room and said, you know what, we need to change your psychology. You know, and get you to vote where you benefit everybody else, not yourself. That would not fly at all. Now that has happened, except it was never announced like that. You know, this is a pre-announcement, like here we come, stand by. The word additory is not a word. What is additory?

58:36 I'm thinking like he's there trying to add us. I mean, that's I took it literally the editorial approach and I couldn't find any what the acronym of B M E P stood for. But I did do some and this is the rabbit hole I fell in last night. Like I said, YouTube hates me. I have my clip list already and I'm like, okay, yeah, let me go to it and it's like, bam, Black Male Voter Project. I'm like, okay, let me see what this is about. It just showed up in my feed and I'm like, holy shit, like who is this guy? What is Maslow's hierarchy of needs? I mean, like, let people know.

59:21 This is why this show is not a weekly show. It is a weekly show. We just when these things crop up. When it happens we have to we got to pump the brakes and stop to pick up whatever we whatever roadkill there is. Because I think we're what 50 days or less away from the election. We have no time to waste here folks. You know we can't wait till we'll get to that next week or let this thing slide. This I'm going to come back to him but before that let's get into what the Maslow's hierarchy of needs are. No longer part of the close-knit orthodox family of his youth Maslow wanted to find out what could make life purposeful for people himself included in modern day America.

1:00:06 A country where the pursuit of money and fame seemed to have eclipsed any more interior or authentic aspirations. He saw psychology as the discipline that would enable him to answer the yearnings and questions that people had once taken to religion. He suddenly saw that human beings could be said to have essentially five different kinds of need. On the one hand, the psychological or what one could term without any mysticism being meant by the word the spiritual and on the other, the material. For Maslow, we all start with a set of utterly non-negotiable and basic physiological needs for food, water, warmth and rest. In addition, we have urgent safety needs for bodily security and protection from attack.

1:00:55 But then we start to enter the spiritual domain. We need belongingness and love. We need friends and lovers. We need esteem and respect. And lastly, and most grandly, we are driven by what Maslow called, in a now legendary term, an urge for self-actualization. a vast, touchingly nebulous, and yet hugely apt concept involving what Maslow described as living according to one's full potential and becoming who we really are. Hey, just to stop you for a second, I think it is auditory. I have a lot of, I find a lot of information about BMP auditory signaling, so he might have said auditory, but if it was auditory... No, no, I pulled this straight from his website. It's ADB

1:01:45 I-T-O-R-Y. Oh, okay. Editorial approach. Oh, double D. Okay. Hmm. All right, I'll put it in the show notes. I could tell you I could read what it says. It says it's designed to eliminate the inherent skepticism, lack of voter immobilization, and increase the desire within black men to participate in electoral politics greater than the casual relationship that currently exists. And what I'm thinking is that just I'm just going out on a limb here. Basically, they're saying black men basically exist now on the lowest level of We found the new bottom Maslow's hierarchy. We're just breathing Like an amoeba man, you just a large a larvae So what they want to do is go get us to the next level of safety, you know security a body of employment of resources family health

1:02:47 Then the next level is love and belonging, friendship, family. So are they talking about doing ostracizes if we don't vote? I'm just saying, this is a very slick and sick approach. How about just giving us tangibles? That easy. Hey, we're gonna exchange for your vote. We're gonna give you X, Y, Z. Okay, that works for me. I'll go vote for you. No, no, no, no, no. We need to change your psychology. This is what I'm talking. I hope people are understanding why I get so animated about this whole process because we're never treated like adult human beings. We're always dictated to. And now they're just openly saying it. I mean, to say that we're gonna play around with people's psychology, that's wild. But as I said,

1:03:49 I had to figure out who this guy was. So I started digging around YouTube and I found this video, Black Male Voter Project founder W Mondale Robinson Warren. Being a black man 40 years old who does political work and have done so for the better part of 20 years, I felt like I was obligated my love for brothers and also because I see the white status quo mainly the consultant class and the two political parties, ignoring and also treating the black men as if we are not a priority. And also that we are necessary for the narrative on how black communities should be and also addressed around elections and everything associated with those.

1:04:41 Mainly those who supposedly agree with us and how they exclude the black men and black male narrative and what's important and how you can talk to us and also turn out our vote. And then at the same end, while they won't spend resources on us and prioritize us, they'll definitely blame us for everything that fails with their candidates and also their electoral plans. Both parties treat black men as if we are pawns to be played with and also as if our issues aren't the most pressing issues. Hmm, so how does he sound he sounds always sound okay? He's saying both parties you know um So I started clicking around the website if you want to go over there black was it black male voter project? I'm looking at your over there, and I did I saw this the one under events. I think I

1:05:31 Brothers with a A S B voting. I see it right here. Brothers be voting. It would have been better if it said brothers. Let me ask you, will you be voting? That would have been perfect. B B no, but brothers be voting. That that that's a slogan. That triggers my grammatical mind. Mind so much. It's like that just doesn't sit well with me. What are you saying that we can't form a sentence correctly and you have to talk to this in this way? You know what? You know what? I'm going to give Mondale a pass. I'm going to give Mondale a pass. Why? Are you there? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Cause I have to. Okay. I have to because he hasn't proven himself to be problematic yet. Oh, there's the problematic word. Hmm. Yes.

1:06:30 Adam, you're on the website, right? Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Can you click on the donate button right quick? Oh, let me guess what happens here. We click on the donate button. Let me scroll down and see. Oh, and there it is, ladies and gentlemen! Your money goes right to ActBlue, the Democratic fundraising organization. Paid for by ActBlue. You see how he imp... You see how he infiltrated, oh it's both parties and this is their, he said himself, it's both parties that neglect us. They have realized we need to get somebody that speaks the lingo. Which apparently is, apparently the lingo is brothers be voting. Be voting, yeah. It's insulting. Can you imagine if

1:07:22 if the Republican operative or if I had done that, hey here's a plan. If Trump would have put this together, black male voter project, Trump would have created it and you click on it and it says brothers with an AS be voting and all that job talk. I mean it's the same thing that Joe Biden does. I mean it's the same thing. Come on man, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's this, it's this job, give me a job on the black hand side, you know, all that, you know what I'm saying? Like, what, we're people, we're educated people. We don't need to be taught to like this. And then you come with this, both parties have done us wrong and you're propped up by Act Blue.

1:08:07 No, no, no, Mr. Mondale. You've been exposed. You know, MoFax is on the case. That's why I said, I had to go. Oh, I like it. You can buy for your wife in their store. You can buy it. I love black male voter. I love a black male. I'm glad you brought that up. Uh-huh. I'm glad you brought that up that goes to the third level on the um on the Maslow's triangle. Yeah, loving love and belonging friendship family sexual intimacy. Yeah, you see what they're doing here Yeah, you can be loved black man. If you only give us your vote. Oh, this is this is hilarious So there's a t-shirt

1:08:54 And it's like a label on food, except it's on your chest. Uh-huh. And it says blackmail voter. Oh yeah, this is great. It's the most bigoted racist things I've ever seen. I love it. Here, blackmail voter nutrition facts. Serving size, one dope brother. So that would be you wearing the t-shirt. With an A. Oh yeah, it's one dope brother. Percentage daily concern, our kids 100%, our family 100%, criminal justice reform 100%, trades back in schools 100%, end police brutality 100%, the hood 100%, your racist BS 0%. The hood. The hood, yeah. Other ingredients include book and street smarts, hood and suburban swag. Wow!

1:09:47 This is, this is, it's crazy. It's black on black racism right here man. It's gotta stop. This is, this is what kept me up to five or six this morning. Ordering t-shirts. I hope people understand. Oh god. I live this and what I mean by this, identifying infiltrators like Mondale. Yeah. If anybody would, if you would've came to me, hey Mo, we want to make a t-shirt for the podcast. We want to put brothers on it. Brothers be listening to Mo Facts. I'm like, Adam. And then I have a picture of my face just to make it funnier. I like this, future, listen to this Mo. Did you see this, the future black male voter youth hoodie?

1:10:45 And I honestly I don't I don't think I don't even think Mondale's calling the shots here because he or either he's severely tone-deaf I Don't think I think somebody say hey Mondale we're gonna use you as the front man you got here you push this BM EP aditory approach trademark, copyrighted. And we're going to put you at the front man and these states and the states were, let's go back to what states they're targeting. Now I thought you cared about all black men. No, no, no, no. We only care about the black men in swing States, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Texas, Arkansas, Ohio, Indiana, New York, and New Jersey. Wow. The other 37 States that contain black men don't matter.

1:11:37 And he's a political operative. He's working on 125 campaigns and leading roles internationally, which we have to get around to the build back better. If you didn't notice when, you remember when the 19th, what was it? What was it? 19th amendment or night? What was the lady from the, they did the first interview with, I noticed that I'm going off on a side here, but I just want to make this one point because he says leading roles internationally. This is a globalist push. The lady that interviewed Kamala Harris first, they got the very first interview as she was met nominated.

1:12:18 for vice president the 19th amendment 19th or something like that Kamala Harris pushed the bill back better we glossed over it yeah but now we see right right right right what happened to lift every voice good now we had to build back better I was too inspirational I don't know what that was But can I get a woosah please? Because I need a cigarette. A double woosah, alright. No smoking on set. Yeah, I don't even smoke. I mean, but I'm just out there seeing this bullcrap. I'm like, what are y'all doing? Hey, but do you know who this guy is? This guy, this, uh, he is, uh, he works for Democracy for America.

1:13:05 Which is 100%- oh yeah, now I see it. Okay. It's the same website maker, oh my goodness. They got the shop there too. I didn't want to leave the witness. I didn't want to tell you who, I wanted you to click on the donate button yourself. But I've seen enough Curry Cash checks go down. But he literally is the national political director for Democracy for America. So, you know, he's a total operative. This is a total bogus. It's bogus! It's a t-shirt site, but I still don't know what their MB, AMBE, whatever that thing was that he was talking about, his process, BMEP, auditory approach. I'm guessing BME stands for Black Male. Black Men. What do you think that means?

1:13:57 I can't find it anywhere. I mean, it might not mean anything. Yeah, it is slaps and crap together like bm. Ep editorial approach. It is. What is that man? But you know what brothers are getting smart. We're the bell of the ball, Adam. I am so happy. When you put this kind of... No, because when you put this kind of effort into it, that lets you know... It makes you feel good, makes you feel wanted. Yeah, it makes you feel wanted, right? Not only wanted, we hold all the cards. So hold on, Mo. Let's say, with everything you know about the... Let's just say the two parties, but you could even say re-electing Trump,

1:14:44 Biden or no vote, if all of a sudden the Biden camp had one, despite this seems like they're pretty nuts, if they had one tangible, that would be enough for you? No. Because they have so many negatives. Okay, so first of all, you got a balance out That tangible would have to be so big The balance out how you're negatively impacting this and that goes back to trick, baby. That's why I play right, right, right You have one party that doesn't even care. It's like, you know, not an innocent in a bad way It's like y'all do y'all I mean, we don't need y'all votes to you saying win But the other part is like oh we need to manipulate them

1:15:29 we need to, you know, we need to be MEP. Uh, uh, ever that is that gets under my skin. Um, but what we have here is black man realizing we're have holding on the cards and to speak to that, we have Dr. Umar Johnson. I want to say something about the democratic party. The democratic party keeps on trying to influence black people. to vote as if they're going to vote away police genocide. That's right. The Democratic Party keeps on trying to influence black people to vote as if they're going to vote away miseducation. The Democratic Party keeps on influencing black people to vote as, excuse me, as if they're going to vote into office economic opportunity or vote away gentrification. Okay? The Democratic Party has not produced a plan yet.

1:16:30 The Democratic Party has not produced a plan yet. The Democratic Party has not produced a plan yet to deal with any of the major problems that affect black America. There is no plan for miseducation. There's no plan for gentrification. There's no plan for mass incarceration. There's no plan for access to wealth. There's no plan for police genocide. But you want people to vote. Vote for what? Ryan, I would be honest with y'all. I would be absolutely honest with y'all. The most powerful thing black people could really do this election, the most powerful thing black people could really do this election was not vote at all. Let it be known that we will not be participating in the election at all. At all. Declare it to the country and hold your vote in your pocket. That is the most powerful thing you can do this year.

1:17:24 Have we heard before from Dr. Umar Johnson? I'm not familiar with him. Yes, yes we have. And Dr. Umar Johnson, I'm sure people say he's a flawed character, but one thing he is, is a great speaker. And a lot of times, We want everybody to be everything and I think if everybody just certain people play their roles Some people are builders. Some people are strategists. Some people are speakers. I mean you need all of these different things and an organization or in the school of fish Right, right, right and what he's saying here and if you notice he used NLP as well

1:18:06 Did you peep did you did you see that no which part he repeats the same thing? Oh, yes Yeah, he does. Yeah Exactly three times. So I mean he's all yeah. Yeah, he he he's a psychologist So I mean he understands, you know how to get to people's know to get them to reach people's minds and he's letting them know No, we're not voting for you And it's resonating. It's resonating because I have this Bloomberg quick take saying could Trump win more black voters in November than in 2016. My name is Matthew Hawley and I am a Trump supporter. They think because I'm black

1:18:52 that I have to vote Democrat. They think that they can come out and say, racism bad. You guys went through a whole bunch of stuff and I'm here to save you. Vote for me. They've been doing that for years now, but they never change anything. This election right here will be the first time I actually cast a ballot for president. When I first seen Trump, he was standing at the podium and he addressed black people directly. And he told us, you guys have been voting for Democrats.

1:19:34 forever now. You're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58% of your youth is unemployed. From voting for Democrats all these years and then he looked in the camera and he said, what do you have to lose? I said, mm-hmm, I like that. Before you go on Mo, I think I figured it out. It's just bothering me to no end. I believe B M E P means Black Male Engagement Project. Okay. And here it is.

1:20:18 Blackmail voter project is just we have thrown out the... I just can't get past this. We have thrown out the traditional way of campaigning because of its transactional nature and lack of ability to reach brothers, says it right there, brothers, where they are, which might be in Dahud. In doing so, I made that part up, but that's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, but I, it is, yeah. Yeah, in doing so we have created a new campaign model that prioritizes an expansive approach to reach black men. Yeah, it's, yeah, okay. The reason why I played this clip

1:20:59 To couple with what Mondale's talking about, this guy here is a perfect example. See, he said this will be the first time he ever casted a vote in a presidential election. So this is the voter that he's talking about. And it's not going as well as they expected. It's not going well at all. Yeah, well they don't have the right t-shirts. Maybe that's why the Democrats didn't address black men at the DNC. Oh, that's a good point. Could have been. It's just like, let them be. We don't want to get them registered because they might do anything with that registration. Now who's suppressing votes? Right.

1:21:41 I think they call that benign neglect if I'm not mistaken. But I want to, and I don't know what Bloomberg's doing here. Maybe he's a little salty that they didn't pick him to be president. Why would he put this on his channel? And then the blurb, I always like to capture the blurb under the YouTube video. And it says, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, okay, so Bloomberg Television like CNBC, which I watch both. CNBC is a little more dynamic. But they actually have to have some kind of good information because people make investment decisions and have strategies based upon what they're saying. And so their truth comes out a little bit more. Also, I think Bloomberg, he got pissed off. I don't think he's put his money up. All those races that he's going to put $100 million into, I don't think that happened. It seems to me like that kind of quieted down. You know what? Would you?

1:22:35 Would you see what the Democrats did to him Joe Biden did to him with that black church? Yeah, we had those black people He's like screw y'all, you know, I'm a worst-case scenario I get Trump's tax cuts and I'll be a super-duper billionaire In the blurb it says It says support for Trump from minorities has been particularly high among young men and those without college degree, says American University professor David Barker, who recently released a study on black voters. Trump's campaign is betting that this year he can gain even more traction. So this goes back to what I said at the RNC. That's what the people that they brought up there, that whole show,

1:23:28 was targeted at give us a look and not even vote for us but give us a look. Let us tell you how bad the DNC is. Let us tell you how bad Democrats have done you and you do us a solid by not voting, you know, and we'll continue to... Look at all this money's been thrown around to start small businesses. So they're having a concerted effort to restructure the Republican party. Now I don't think they're trying to bring black male voters into the party per se, but on a case-by-case, campaign-by-campaign basis, consider

1:24:12 Not voting for Democrats this negative vote is it's a big deal I know I harp on this a lot, but it's a big friggin deal. Yeah, and as we talked about in our very first show What do you have to lose? Resonated yeah, because it's like you know what he's right and the guy said that's the first time any president had talked directly to black men and Even Barack Obama did it taught. Well, he did pull up your pants be somebody you know, it's like What no, who do you think you are? Yeah. No, he cried over Trayvon. He cried over Trayvon Martin. No, but There's a speech that he gave at a church. I think on Father's Day or something and he would use

1:24:59 Oh, it was all your fault. Okay, of course. Yeah, you've done it all wrong. You're not around. You're not around. I remember that. Didn't he say like, you're not around? Yeah, poundcake-ish. It was real poundcake-ish. Alluded to the Bill Cosby speech. Right, right, right, right. On one hand you say systemic racism, but on the other hand, pull up your pants, be somebody, that kind of thing. No, you don't talk to us like that. Be better. Be better. Right. We didn't grow up with super duper millionaire stepfathers. Sorry, Barry. Now we're moving on. So Trevor Noah,

1:25:37 He had to put his two cents in on the RNC and their appeal to the black voter. So last night, the party showcased their diversity by giving speakers slots to all four of America's black Trump supporters. And I don't know what they're going to do for the rest of the week. I mean, Tim Scott has already spoken. So they're going to have to bring him back out on Wednesday with a fake mustache like, hello, it's me, Senator Brimschmott, and I also support Donald Trump. This South African douchebag. I mean, you know, I've always had a problem when I hear Brits

1:26:13 bitching and moaning about our system. I'm sure they feel the same when I talk about Brexit. But man, Trevor Noah really gets on my nerves. Adam, you're sounding like a self-hating white man. What? No, no, what I'm saying, that's what we're told when we say, you know, when non-ADOS people speak on our... Oh yes, of course, right. I'll be being facetious there. I know what you're saying. That's what we're told. Yeah, you're a self-hating black person if you don't let Joy Reid Speak for you, speak for you, speak for you, speak for you. You don't let Trevor Noah speak for you. And don't you see a trend here? Over this whole 49 shows we've been doing, who is the African- How many actual Ados men have we heard in the media speaking about the topics we've been talking about for the past more than a year? I don't think a single one.

1:27:09 How many ADOS people? Not just men, I mean who? Malcolm X clips. I'm talking about in the media now. It's that bad. Well that's what I said to Joe Rogan. That's what I said to Joe Rogan. I said, where are the male leaders of Black Lives Matter? He said, I don't even know who the female leaders are. But you know it's like it's so obvious because you don't see them. They're none. There's no names. No one to say, oh yeah, that guy, no, none of it. Mo Fax, that's the only one I know. And Ados, I mean, they're out here but they don't get the TV time. That's the problem, they don't get the TV time. And if they do get the TV time, they gotta do what Mondale did. That's the only way you get to see your TV. Mondale, I would assume, he says from North Carolina, so I would just assume that he's Ados. But to get the platform, you have to carry, you're saying, carry water. Yeah.

1:28:09 And it's not working anymore. And I'll be honest with you, there's a lot of good allies out there that are not ADOS, but they even see our plight. One of them being the brother from the TD Media, we played his clips before, he's Haitian American, but he goes 10 toes down for the ADOS movement lineage. Let me be specific there. So, yeah, did we finish up with Trevor Noah? No, I didn't even get three seconds into it before I was sick of the guy. He does trigger me and he does this all the time. He just, oh, it's all four of the black men. It's like, shut up. Just, eh, annoying. So last night, the party showcased their diversity by giving speakers slots to all four of America's black Trump supporters.

1:28:58 And I don't know what they're gonna do for the rest of the week. I mean, Tim Scott has already spoken. So they're gonna have to bring him back out on Wednesday with a fake mustache like, hello, it's me, Senator Brimschmott, and I also support Donald Trump. And while some of the black speakers last night attested to how not racist Trump is, one of the speakers went even further and declared that the real racists are the Democrats. You may be wondering, why is a lifelong Democrat speaking at the Republican National Convention? And that's a fair question. And here's your answer. The Democratic Party does not want black people to leave their mental plantation. We've been forced to be there for decades and generations. But I have news for Joe Biden. We are free

1:29:45 We are free people with free minds. But when black people do it, you get told you're acting like an extra on Roots. And why is it that the people who always say, you should be a free thinker, have a very specific set of instructions on how to think? Think for yourselves, black people. All right, man, I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna vote for the Democrats. No, I said think for yourselves, vote Republican. Okay, maybe I'll vote independent. Yo, you better start thinking for yourself. Wow, he's really missing it. He's missing the don't vote part, isn't he?

1:30:22 No, he's projecting is what he's doing. That's exactly what the Democrats do. If you say you're going to and I'm not talking about the party. I'm getting personal here when when I tell people I'm not voting what? How can you not vote? You're against your people. No, no, what they'll say is, this is how it goes. Well, you know, yeah, I'm not thinking about, I'm not voting, there's nothing tangible out there for me. How can you let your ancestors down and, you know, your forefathers that got beaten to the streets for your right to vote, how can you let them down? Well, you know what, I'm looking at Trump. I mean, he has, and how can you, how, what, how can you even consider voting for Donald Trump? Now, what choice do I have?

1:31:05 Right. No vote. He completely projected there 100% and I was when I heard I was like, what? I've never heard a Republican say that like all you know what he how he laid it out there. But in all fairness what we like to do. We don't like sound bites here. We like to go get the whole you know listen to the whole footage. I want to say this before we continue on with the Vernon Jones National Convention speech. Did he not look presidential up there? You know, he'd been on TV a couple of times and he's a he's a state's representative I think for the Democratic Party.

1:31:45 Well, so was Obama. So, I mean, we know these things can move fast. He's not even a senator. He's just a state senator. I understand. I'm just saying, but these things can move quickly. I mean, if they can get you in the right state, I mean, and get you, you know, a seat somewhere. Interesting. Well, I'm just saying the way he carried himself No, the guy's great. I was gonna say I saw him on MSNBC pushing back and he was getting a lot of crap for it and he doesn't care. He seems to be a pretty straight shooter and what he did obviously is political suicide within the Democratic Party so we'll see where he goes. I mean, I'm expecting him to make the big announcement that he's switching. I don't think he should. I don't think he should. I think he should stay

1:32:34 I was a former Democrat, not identified as Republican. If I'm giving him political advice, this is what I'll tell him. I'm a former Democrat, kind of play it like Barney plays it. I'm with the party, but I'm not a Republican because that comes with a certain weight that weighs you down. But the reason why I say presidential, the way he carried himself It's not like he would seem like a tool for the Republican Party. Not at all. Not at all. Free man walking, free man thinking, that's the way he lived. That Kanye, that Kanye, he used Kanye's thing. He used Kanye's thing, yeah. Didn't we text each other? It's been so long ago. I mean, it seems like the world... Yeah, we did. The world melted down. But I remember watching, I think we were texting each other, look, what did Vernon just say? Exactly.

1:33:28 Right, so I'm just saying if you put the Republican machine behind him, but you don't make him a Republican per se, and if he can peel off some black votes here and there or at least keep people home, he could easily get a seat in Congress and then leverage that into a political run maybe 2028. I mean, I can see it. I know it sounds crazy, but I can see that happening. It's not crazier than Ivanka. Right. And then he hasn't lost his voice. And then that's the white voice that we have to do a show on that one day, because that matters too. The way you speak, not more, not as more important than what you say.

1:34:18 Obama practiced that what he did, you know, and then the walk the DAP that kind of thing the swag I mean you even said yourself. I mean, what did the t-shirt say? Something about something swag. I mean, that's what that's what I'm talking about. He didn't lose his swag. I But let's go on and get into Vernon Jones' actual speech at the RNC. Time for sleeping in the basement. Joe Biden has had 47 years to produce results, but he's been all talk and no action, just like so many of the Democrats who've been making promises to the black voters for decades.

1:34:57 We've been their captive audience. When President Trump sought to earn the black vote, the Democratic Party leaders went crazy. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer literally started wearing kente cloths around the US Capitol. As if pandering were enough to keep us satisfied. Let me tell you why I'm supporting our president. I grew up in the South, in Laurel Hill, North Carolina, Scotland County, the Green Pond community to be exact. My parents, Robin and Rufa Jones, built with their own hands a four-room cinder block home with no indoor plumbing.

1:35:39 They had very limited education, but they instilled in us a strong work ethic that drove me from those tobacco fields of North Carolina to those hallowed halls of the Georgia General Assembly. My parents taught me if I believed in God, worked hard, and treated every person fairly, there was no limit to what we could achieve. There's your message. That's nice. Yeah, it resonates because it's not like he came from a, you know, bullet upbringing. He has depth to him. And I think that's very valuable. And to come out and say these things in this time where you see a maturation process going for black male voters.

1:36:27 He's somebody to keep an eye on, that's all I'm gonna say. But... When does the real backlash come though, man? Outside of the choosing not to vote and not going along with the democratic idea or the voting bloc. When does the actual backlash come? I mean, when I hear some of this and I look at this brothers thing, it's like at some point don't you suppose, excuse me, don't fucking talk to me like that. I can imagine, I'm getting mad, you know, by extension, it's like, don't talk to people like that, that's so insulting. And a certain, don't you get that feeling like, I'm gonna snap her over this guy, it's nuts. No, what it is is, the sentiment is we'll show him. Okay, right. We'll show him.

1:37:23 You'll feel us when that number gets under 50 percent. And that's the whole thing. That's all the only leverage we have, right, is you. So how do you spike the ball? So when so when it works, which I believe it will, you got to have it's got to be some plan like, hey, we did that. No, we're gonna get blamed don't work. Don't you? Give us another four years of Mussolini

1:38:00 Okay, nice. Yeah So to give you an idea of the plantation mindset This is another one our golden clips and this is from the heritage of slavery and we're talking on Massa speaks three What is tended to make you more liberal? well realization that the Negro is a human being like anyone else I Mr. Hastie, what did you think we were before you began to think of us as human beings? Well, in a way, we thought of you almost as a very superior pet. Something or rather someone we had to take care of because we had to do so much of their thinking for them. We had to do almost everything

1:38:54 for them to accept living their own own lives. Anything outside we had to do for them. And just to put it into context of time, this was 1968, so just around the type of the, just around the Civil Rights Act. And this is how people thought. But they're still thinking like this when you go back to the BMEP. We have to think for them. Yeah. You're a very exquisite kind of pet. My little podcast pet. We roll you out every four years, you know, like you do a pet. Walk him around the block. At a dog show. It's so insulting. Man, I just can't understand how you just don't get really... I get it. Yeah.

1:39:43 You'll get your credit and be like yeah, how you like you how you like us now, but still it's oh, yes Right you're gonna feel it you know it's gonna you're gonna feel like you know feel our wrath and It's not only black men a lot of a dogs feel that way. Mm-hmm You know y'all talk to us y'all treat us like pets you you pander to us can't take call Jesus Christ I mean like Who is it? That tells you it more speaks. This doesn't speak to the white Democrats. No, no, no, no. This speaks to how out of touch the black Democrats. Black ink are who said to her? Oh, yeah.

1:40:28 We need to get some Kante cloth. That's what we need to get. I'm still baffled by that. That there's not a single African American, black American, Ados America who didn't go, are you kidding me now? I mean, that goes to show you that goes to show you they own deaf, colorblind, tone deaf, everything. I will. I'm going to say this and we can get into the next clip. There is going to be a lot a lot of turnover after this election. You're going to see a whole new regime on the Democratic side of colored people because they're inadequate. They don't speak the language. They don't feel the vibe. And because they don't speak the language, they're so easily duped by some guy with a hoodie that says, hey, let's address him as brothers. OK, that'll work. Right.

1:41:26 So I know I've been harping on the Democrats here, but Republicans have, or conservatives, let's say conservatives, have their hangups too. Because part of this show we've talked about reparations, but there's this element amongst black conservatives that are not for reparations and to go even further to say it's time for black people to get over slavery. So you agree with the prompt you'll walk forward if not you'll stay back people need to get over slavery.

1:42:07 Alright, so I guess I started off. I mean we all know that slavery was a terrible thing. It was an atrocity, it was a human tragedy, but we can't just be talking about slavery every day. It ended in 1865, this is 2020, we gotta press forward. Our ancestors, they went through a lot, they died for us to be able to be here right now in the best country on planet Earth. Take advantage of what we have right now, rather than looking in the past and saying, oh, well, what was me because of slavery? Right. You know, there have been other groups of people in slavery all throughout the world. They can't just stay in that state. So people, a lot of times they stay right in their place and others are being able to pass them because mentally they've moved on while others have not. Oh, you haven't moved on. I see.

1:42:51 I'll say so this is Anthony Bryant Logan. He's he's he's an intelligent brother. I'm sensible. I, uh, the thing I would say about him is and this is where it gets very dangerous. We can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. I'm a productive black man. I've moved on, but that doesn't mean I have a legal claim to you're saying to collect what my ancestors are owed by this country. You know what I mean? You're conflating two different things. Now I've said this before and I'll say it again, and it pisses people off sometimes when I say this. The narrative of slavery is just as dangerous and just as damaging as the actual act itself because that's what perpetuates the victimization mentality. Now, that's why I said, now Anthony, he's sensible. I can understand where he's coming from. So I disagree with him,

1:43:47 I don't know what his stance on reparations is, but I get what he's saying. We need to move on because some people do use that as a stumbling block or a crutch to say I can't move forward in life until I'm repaired and made whole. No, you can. Tons of people do it, but that doesn't mean we need to negate Um, the claim that we have, that we have a official legal claim of being repaired via reparations. Uh, but this next person, this is where keeping it conservative goes wrong. Lady cage. They constantly use slavery to put them in a victim mentality. We can't accomplish this because you enslaved my ancestors. Slaves were taught English. Slaves were taught.

1:44:38 how to become managers and secretaries and cooks and chauffeurs and how to build water tanks and all sorts of things. We're here now. What was that? That was mind-bending. No, you go ahead and run that, but what she's saying is basically, Cyra was alright! We learned English and... Yeah, skills! We gave you some skills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your problem? What?! Let's hear it again. Let's hear it again. Let's hear it again. Please. Slavery, to put them in a victim mentality. We can't accomplish this because you enslaved my ancestors. Slaves were taught English. Slaves were taught how to become managers and secretaries and cooks and chauffeurs and how to build water tanks and all sorts of things. We're here now.

1:45:36 Wow Who is this nothing? No, lady cage nothing fills up that resume like slavery. That's right Lift yourself up by your bootstraps And this is where they lose a lot of people because when you start talking like that and I'm gonna say this These are the kind of people that they're gonna have to get either all message or get away from yeah, exactly Because they're very damaging. I'm just giving political advice to you're saying to the right You can't prop up people like this because when I heard it, I'm like, lady, are you crazy? Where was the venue? Where was she speaking about this? Oh, this is Jubilee and it's a channel on YouTube and they bring in people from various sides of an argument. Like this one was black liberals and black conservatives and they were talking about is it time to get over slavery and they do, you know, feminists against

1:46:39 Whoever you know conservative women that kind of thing to bring them in and have a discussion and This kind of woman shouldn't be given a platform. I don't know her personally I'm not but on this topic. I'm gonna say this everybody should be able to have a platform But on this topic is not if you want to have a genuine conversation. Yeah, you have to vet these kind of people because this is Inflammatory, you're not gonna get anywhere. I mean what you flavor gave us skills. Yay, I Both parties have their problems and like I said Anthony Bryant Logan he was sensible he laid out his argument I get it where he's coming from even I don't I think we can like I said walk and chew bubblegum at the same time we can be productive but also make the case that we need to you know

1:47:39 receive reparations and really I'm gonna start using the term on the show atonement. Atonement needs to be made. I'm gonna lay that out later on in another show but that's really what is being said for both sides. Going back to Trevor Noah. Hold on a second. Yes, yes. Atonement. Okay, so we have three terms. We have atonement, we have reparations, we have tangibles. Tangibles has been poisoned. That is now conspiracy theory, Russian bots, that's not real. People who say that are conspiracy theorists. I've heard all this. So you want to use atonement, but that doesn't... In America, we settle things pretty much one way.

1:48:30 Money no atonement is not yet, but what home it can be I mean if you look at the definitions of it, and that's why I said I need to I need to lay this out, but what you've read up at you Allium I'm open on home all right the same way Tangibles have been poisoned Reparations is a non-starter and we always talk about these non starters when you hear certain words It's been so weaponized that soon as you hear it. It's like nope I I ain't listening. And so we need to, if we mean the same thing and we can use synonyms for different words to get people get past that threshold of the, you know, the gag reflex, like, no, no, no, no. They say reparations, I'm closing my ears. We've talked about this before, like all lives matter. I mean, it's a way to say that, but that has been so weaponized

1:49:25 Uh, and it's a host of others that we talked about that are just non starters. I think reparations the word, not the idea. Let me be clear. Because I am pro reparations, but what we need to really do is talk about how is positive for both sides. When you look at the word atonement, it's about. How is positive for the people that's being repaired as well as the people who's doing the repair? I'm telling I'm telling you this this crypto are the a dos crypto coin. This is this is my idea You give every a dos person in America you give him like a million a dos coins and then and then that can literally be funded by the government and

1:50:10 And it would be equal to a dollar. I mean, it's just a crazy idea, but it's why not? By the way, atonement literally is synonymous with reparation. You're right. It is synonymous. That's what I'm saying. We can use another, and it comes off as... I'm gonna get there. It's another day, and it doesn't... Hit the eardrum and it doesn't the same way as reparations and people just think oh because when we start first having our conversation It's like, you know, it was like what is reparation? What does that really mean? And it's like no, it's not a handout. It's not no a government assistance program It's a legal claim

1:50:57 It's the last check our ancestors didn't pick up their last check. So, you know, we want that with interest come on That's what I said on Joe Rogan like it's we need to deal with this. It's let's just deal with it Come on, move on already And that's what atonement is from this side of the person doing the repairing if they're actually atoning That's me. I made you whole The person that needs to be repaired is made whole. It's an agreement and it's a better word. Well, yes, yes, it's a better word, but I can see this being poisoned. And we'll have to find another. Of course! Yeah, that's on the horizon. Of course! I mean, yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. But let's continue with, now we gotta circle back around with Trevor Noah on... You're trying to hurt me on purpose with this guy, aren't you? Okay, what has Trevor got here? I'm sorry. Okay, this is the RNC appeal to black voters too.

1:51:56 I mean, black women in this country vote Democrat more than anybody else. And I'll tell you now, nobody is more of a free thinker than a black woman. I dare you to try and brainwash a black woman. You'll come out of there joining her cult. I'm in the cult of I should have shut my mouth. And also this argument is especially confusing coming from this dude. Because he's saying, the Democrats are trying to enslave you. Also, I'm a lifelong Democrat. That's like every confused meme on the internet at once. Like, does that mean he's keeping his own voters on the mental plantation? I feel like I need to watch 12 Years a Mental Slave to understand what the fuck he's talking about. Why does Trevor Noah get to talk for black people in America anyway?

1:52:37 I mean isn't that justice? You tell me. Yeah, I mean if I can't, if I'm not allowed to, he's allowed to. Let me give you an analogy. That's like Kamala Harris speaking for Native Americans. Yeah. We're both Indians. Technically. Technically, yeah. Yes. That's a good one. How would that fly? How would that fly? Nobody thinks about it that way. It's like, technically, you know, hey, we were oppressed by, uh, what's the word they like to use? Not imperialism, but the other one, colonialism. Right. Native Americans were impacted by colonialism.

1:53:21 Asian Indians were impacted by colonialism. She's Asian Indian. She's Indian. She's brown. They're brown Why can't she speak for Native Americans? I mean, it's the same thing if you said that people look at you crazy But then if you're brown, they're brown you were affected by I guess slavery and South things for South Africa and You're affected by slavery in America. Two totally different things. Oppression systems, one apartheid, one, I mean, say, a slavery, a chattel slavery system. But they let him get away with it. We gotta start calling these people out and I'm glad you brought that up. I mean, why does he get to speak for us? We have to take these people down and it's not only him. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna throw Jorah Reed back in there. And not only does Jorah Reed speak for us, there's another golden clip. This is the Black Bots.

1:54:15 They appear to be a human, but they don't, they have a big gap, as Adam just said, in the times that they've tweeted. And they tweet you. Should you respond to them? Generally no. I mean, off the bat, you should stay back and just sort of watch their engagement, how many times they're tweeting, what they're tweeting about, and even the topics in particular. And a lot of the ones that are pretending to be black people, black women in particular, who are focusing on black identity, have these sort of aspects aspects in the ways that they're talking about language. If we saw the other day, there was an account that was supposed to be for black supporting Howard Schultz. That account was eventually pulled down, but that was a prime example of someone trying to mimic support from the black community for a particular candidate. So these kinds of things that are happening at this moment, we have to pay a little bit more close attention to it because there is nuance, but they're all

1:55:08 also identifying factors. For example, right now from the Black Identity Framework, there's a new sort of hashtag and or identity that's in their bios called ADOS or DOS, which is standing for Descendants of Slaves. Yes, yes, yes. Well, this is how we kind of met with this thing. Yes, and I like to give people our origin story one more time could we I know we probably have a lot of new listeners from the Joe Rogan experience What we call the We'll call it Joe Jonah Jonah Moe Jonah Moe Roe-no-mo-no-mo. It's all good. Yeah, Joe Moe

1:55:54 Okay, so and you correct me if I'm wrong how this went down so I heard Adam on no agenda I'm a listener. I'm asking me a producer. So I was listening and You use the term DOS which I was impressed because You did the homework to figure out there's a group out here saying about descendants of slavery but I think it was around the HR 40. I think that's what you were speaking about. Yes, it was the reparations study group. Right. Yeah. And that, but it's something in my soul and I'm a man of faith. I believe it was God and God was like, and it wasn't like immediately I walked around with this thing for a day or two and it's like, you have to reach out.

1:56:46 And I don't know Adam from a can of paint. I know him from the Noah Jindal show, but I never had any interactions with him. But I'm like, I can't let this ride this DOS thing because this lends to what we're talking about now. This lets Trevor Noah and Joy Reid and all the other people that are not ADOS into the conversation and start dictating how ADOS Needs to handle their affairs. Yeah, so I was like he gotta let him know about he needs to add that a that a is important And I reached out to you and and I sent you email explaining, you know, you're on the right path But you know, it's a little nuance to it and you were very receptive. I

1:57:29 So much receptive that I think you were on your honeymoon and you Texted me for today. We were DMing. Yeah, we're DMing on Twitter. Yeah, like and it was just like Yeah, yeah, that was like we had an affair. That's what it was, right? It was like back and forth back and forth like really really yeah, and I was like, yeah, it's this whole separate thing But I want to let people know and I'm not I don't you've done the work. I I don't have to validate you in any way, but I'm just saying even before your interactions with me, you were on the path of DOS and it being a thing. It was just that you, you honestly, ADOS was being suppressed. Well, yes, because you're seeing it being called bots, Russian bots.

1:58:18 And to me, right? That's what I do whenever I look at the news a story. I'll see some positioning I'm like well that whatever that is that shit. I'm like something's got to be good about that And it was that clip specifically that's where I got the DOS from and I was reading about it I was like, what is this what's going on? Anyway, yes the origins of most facts with Adam Curry. Yeah, so that's that's that's how it started and I And here we are, 49 episodes later, pointing out more misinformation by the mainstream media. Disinformation, specific disinformation. It's really, it's quite evil. And most of it's, Trevor Noah, he's not boulé, he's dumb. He doesn't know. He's just making jokes. I don't think this guy, I don't think he's that impressive, really.

1:59:13 No, but I mean he has the look the Obama look I mean that's like just he's got the a that plays into it But it's funny that they don't call out people like this guy over here the very thing that they were talking about this astro turf kind of movement that Mondale Operation over here is exactly what they tried to label a DOS as and it's not that but This clip is so rich. I had to bring the second part into it because if we know as we've seen that the the what the ones who are the most

1:59:50 valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused on getting black people to do only one thing, not vote for the Democrats. And can you name one of those five campaigns? I mean, we put up from the report that you're saying that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice conversation. There's an immigration... So, reparations. Go on. reparations, immigration, and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system. So the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. Very quickly, we're out of time, but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing of Black Lives Matter and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do you even tell?

2:00:44 So you tell right away by the language that they use most of the time, but if you see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without us getting something back, you should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying. Better look at those accounts and seeing what they're saying. Yeah, that MoFax account talking about reparations and tangibles. This has got to take a close look. Man, you gotta ask him for something. Can't have that. That was it. And they get on national television and say this with all, with no regard. And so this is where we take, you know, we take a, you know, a little golf and a little tangent here away from the DNC, but it has something to do with an RNC, but it has something to do with that. So my question was killer Mike was put in front of every microphone when they were trying to drum up support for Bernie Sanders. Yeah.

2:01:44 Why was he at the DNC? Why wasn't he given a stage? To I mean me him disagree on some things, but I think in in all In all honesty, I think his heart's in the right place I think he puts up, you know where it puts his money where his mouth is didn't he didn't he? Organize an ados something in Philadelphia or something. There was a little moment there where he was doing stuff He was him and ados the organization. Uh, yes, they had some um Interactions, I think him and tone did some interviews or whatever But what I'm saying is why didn't they I mean you you see you were struggling with the black male vote as a Democrat So it's like who can we put on the stage who has credibility? All right killer might you know, you've been a you know, one of the speakers speakers for the party Let's give you a sense give you a Opening on one of the nights. I mean ain't like I mean who better did you have? I mean, let's be honest, but

2:02:47 Killer Mike is all about no it appears to make change and I want people to see this doesn't only go for for Vernon Jones that you can be and I'm gonna use this word Lynch in the media because that's what Trevor Noah was trying to do. Yes Put up on the sacrificial table That's what it will happen It was also done to kill the Mike, one of their faithfuls when he met with Governor Kemp. Trending today, Atlanta rapper and community activist Keller Mike getting some mixed reaction online after meeting with Governor Brian Kemp yesterday. He posted on Instagram about his meeting with the governor. He said he had a real talk with Governor Kemp about the low number of black owned businesses who are contracted by the state free trade school for black men and boys as opposed to building more jails.

2:03:44 and the justice system dealing with children's trauma instead of jailing them. Governor Camp later tweeted about the meeting. He says that they talked about the pandemic's effect on businesses, the value of skilled trade workers and the fight to end human trafficking. But today the rapper was trending on Twitter, drawing both criticism and praise for the meeting. Some critics say this was not representative of the black community, citing the controversy around the governor's electoral victory against Stacey Abrams, while others praised him for taking positive action. Yeah, he went up against a black woman. Oops.

2:04:22 No, but he's trying to help black women and children that are being human traffic with Atlanta and I'm gonna say this one thing now we could push on but Atlanta We really have to look at that all those strip clubs Have an element of human trafficking They never have a shortage of strippers. Young strippers. We really have to look at this feeder system. And he went to one of the things, amongst other things, a job for young black men and that kind of thing. But it's like, no, you didn't stand up for Stacey. Screw the kids. You know, that kind of thing. It's like, hold on. Progress is progress. I mean, I'll go sit down and talk with anybody. It doesn't matter to me.

2:05:10 But this is what happens when you get out of line and you not when you are free thinking black man. This is what happens and they all rain him in you should have you should have no it was disgusting and that's why I made a part of the show because they drug him on the left. They drew how dare you, you know, y'all we know you were sellout or you were a coon and it's the same thing. Yes. I saw it crop up again. White people giving allowance to call a black man out of his name and nobody is called to the carpet on it. The rapper has not responded to 11 Alive about the backlash, but in some tweets today, here's what he had to say to his critics. In one tweet, he said, I'm a taxpayer and own businesses in Georgia. I'm checking up on my dollars at work, and I suggest all Georgians do the same. He also said that he sought counsel from longtime community activists, leaders, and business owners before the meeting to hear their concerns. I have heard him

2:06:11 heard him say a number of times that he doesn't really care what people think. He cares about the policies that are in place to support the African American community and the city of Atlanta where he was born and grew up on the west side. And without those conversations, change can't happen. And Aisha, it was so interesting because the t-shirt he was wearing in that meeting with Governor Kemp said plot plan, organize, strategize, mobilize, I think. And that's an exact phrase that he used when he was kind of reluctantly beside mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, you know, when she asked him to come and speak to the city when some of the protest turned into vandalism. So he he is active and says he will stay that way.

2:06:57 So we can drag you out to be a political prop for the left, but if you want to go and do the work, I mean that's what he was doing with Kemp sitting out having a conversation. Exactly. Literally doing the work. That's the way we know it's supposed to happen, yes. It's no good. It's like, that's no good. You're a coon, you're a sellout. Oh, we knew Killer Mike, oh we knew he was going to be a sellout. And these are I mean, black people were cosigning and black people were saying it, but it wasn't exclusively black people. And one thing that troubled me was you had to make calls to see if it was okay for you to go talk. What? Yeah. You're a grown man. Permission. Need permission. Got to check it out.

2:07:42 And this is 11 live report and at the same time they're reporting this a couple weeks prior, they're reporting about 39 children found in Operation Not Forgotten. The US Marshals announced this week the recovery of 39 children in an operation that covered Macon to Atlanta. During the scene, they arrested nine people, some charged with sex trafficking. It's welcome news to a local nonprofit that helps children. 11 Alive's Chanuhur Hasmore. It's a problem lurking in many communities across Georgia. Child sex trafficking and exploitation. This week, Operation Not Forgotten helped 39 children recovering 26 and safely locating 13 more. U.S. Marshals arrested nine criminal associates. Charges ranged from sex trafficking to registered sex offender violations. The marshals described these children as considered to be some of the most

2:08:37 at risk and challenging recovery cases in the area. If we can save one child from a life of abuse or sex trafficking, we've done our job. and this operation did that for many, many children. Attorney General Chris Carr says oftentimes sex trafficking can be a hidden crime, one that lives in the shadows. Sarah Koppen, the executive director of a local nonprofit called the Hope Box, says she's thankful for the hard work law enforcement and the state put into the operation in Macon and Atlanta. I am so proud of the state of Georgia for doing Operation Not Forgotten.

2:09:13 Kopan says child sex trafficking is still a major problem as her organization continues to help with the recovering children. I would say we have doubled, if not tripled our efforts in rescuing children. It's interesting you put this in here and I heard you set it up of course with the strip clubs. Where are you taking me with this? I'm glad you asked that question. This is what resonates with black men. It does. Let me explain. Yeah. Let me explain. Poor Stacy! Killer Mike, oh how could you do that to Stacy? Bro, we're trying to save 39 children here. When you talk about defunding the police, this is gonna become rampant. These 39 children won't be saved. I mean, we have to be sensible. And this is what's been lost.

2:10:11 And this is what the silent majority we've said in whispers. We say amongst ourselves, we have a real man has no tolerance for harming children at all. You can have the most hardened criminals, but at some point it's like, nah, that that's not going to fly. Go look at the YouTube videos. And so when you talk about poor Stacy, how can you do this to her? We're trying to save children here, defunding the police. That doesn't go well for these kids. Couple of things. Go ahead. So of course I followed this story and what bothers me about it, but I like this new context you've given to it. This came kind of at the just over the peak of the

2:11:06 of the meme about the kids being shipped in wayfair containers and and you know Instagram was going nuts about cabinets and going nuts about elites drinking baby blood for adrenochrome and everyone's all jacked about it and everyone on Epstein's jet but and then all of a sudden U.S. federal marshals by the way This is already coming, and I believe it's, you know, these operations, these are set in motion by President Trump. He's the only president who's really talked about human trafficking this way, specifically in our own country.

2:11:50 No one fucking says anything. Then it's like silence, crickets, and there's pictures, there's actual video of this taking place, of these arrests, and then kids who are being, and some young, some old, who are being rescued from this horrible situation. And it's, I have to say, it's probably mainly white girls who are only focused on all the bullshit and the celebrity aspect, but when something actual happens and there's a real arrest, in Europe, there was like 3,000. No one tweets, no Instagram posts, no nothing. So it's a little bigger issue, but yes. You probably can't see it,

2:12:34 But we're going through the same thing in 2016. The spirit cooking came out about the same time. Pizza Gate cropped up about the same time. And it resonated through our community, even though it didn't make it to the mainstream. I'm gonna give you a little inside baseball. My mom sent me a text. What's MKUltra? And you replied with, don't worry mom, it'll be alright. No, it showed me two things. It says one, this spiritual politics is spilling over into the church, I mean because my mom's all about church. And two, my mom hasn't been listening to a thing I said for the last 10 years.

2:13:30 It's not what mothers do, Moe. It's not what moms do. I know, I'm just saying like... But what I'm just saying is, unprompted, she's texted me this. What is this MKUltra thing? And so what I'm saying to you is, the people, the quote-unquote Black people care about children. We care about, we understand these 39 children. We want the police to take these bad people away and we can make the nuance between bad cops doing bad things and actually law and order. There's a difference and really the Democrats have demonized law and order. Can I make an analogy just to see if I can feel this the way you feel it?

2:14:24 Right. It's kind of the same way with the lockdowns and COVID-19 and the whole RONA situation. where we have a lot of people who know what's really going on, medical professionals, but also people inside the political process. They really know what's happening. They know that there's a lot of other things than a virus going on and it's being, you know, never let a crisis go to waste. But they don't, they're afraid. They're afraid to really speak up and speak out and say something about it. for fear of retribution for all the reasons. Is that a little bit similar? Yeah, for fear of being called crazy. Let's just be honest. Or for fear of, are you going to make the Democrats lose? Are you going to be the reason Trump gets re-elected?

2:15:14 Uh, but the hypocrisy is so thick. Now, Killer Mike goes meets with Governor Kemp to try to save kids and get black men jobs and, you know, uh, address the criminal or no, the mass incarceration. But Michelle Obama could be all hugged up with George W. Bush getting her little candies and nobody says nothing. I'll tell you again, we are the sacrifice we talked about on the last show. And like I said, this is not a death sentence. This is just, it is what it is. Now how do we get back from here? How do we stop being that? But you see, he did what? He did the 2016 election. He was with Bernie. He was saying the last eight years he's dead.

2:16:07 you know what six five six years he's dedicated to politics democratic politics and he goes has one meeting and you just throw him you sacrifice him let's just use the word i'm saying um uh the other guy keep on forgetting his name um the the congress state congressman for uh georgia he's been a lifelong democrat but then he speaks up about just common sense things you sacrifice him These 39 children, oh, oh, Stacey comes before these 39 children. And when I say sacrifice, I don't mean it literally just yet. Just yet, just yet. Not the actual sacrifice. Just yet, but this problem of, of

2:16:55 Children being harmed, especially in our community. We addressed this on show eight with the homelessness and survival sex. Survival sex is an enormous issue too. LGBTQ youths between the ages of 10 and 25 are 70% more likely to engage in survival sex while About 80% of homeless transgender youths are more likely to have engaged in survival sex than homeless cisgender youths. Now, what do we mean by survival sex? In principle, survival sex is part of the wider commercial sex trade.

2:17:34 who engage in survival sex do so because they literally have no other way to survive. So they exchange sex for money, they exchange sex for shelter, they exchange it for food, clothing, or any other good which is a necessity of life. Yeah, I remember this one. So these are the kind of children you want to neglect to save Stacey Abrams feelings? And that's why Angela Stanton King is becoming a rock star. Let me say this, a lot of black people don't care what you do. I mean, that's the one of the biggest thing. Oh, we're homophobic, homo, homo. No, we don't really care, but we should be allowed to have an opinion. But I mean, you do you, whatever you're into. But it's the children, and that's what she's harping on, it's the children that we have to protect.

2:18:36 And we're seeing now that that's not the case, the children not being protected. And I think the Democrats are playing a losing style of politics. I'll explain that more but first we got to thank some people. Yes and to do that we always want to be reminded in the of the legendary words of Malcolm X. First the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white men. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And I gotta say we had a lot of that today. I always love talking with you Moe, just asking questions like brothers can do. Doing the work!

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2:39:55 with Adam Kirk. Can we remind everybody to do the work one time? Yeah, we can. Hey, everybody, make sure you do the work. You've got to do the work. Thanks, Cam. Thanks, Cammie. Love it. I'm doing the work. All right. So I mentioned previously that the Democrats are running a losing brand of politics, especially with the so-called quote unquote black people. And a case of that is removing God from the Pledge of Allegiance. There's a story that's breaking, actually, that you broke on specific Democratic caucuses reciting the Pledge of Allegiance at the virtual convention, leaving out the words under God. Let's take a listen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

2:40:51 David, this seems to be a pattern. You broke another story on a related topic back in 2012. What's going on here? Well, right back in 2012 we broke the story about those words under God being left or the word God being left out of the Democratic Party platform here What you just saw there was the Democratic National Committee caucus. It was a Muslim Affairs caucus a meeting that the DNC was holding this week They left the words under God out as you just heard also the LGBTQ or excuse me LGBT caucus because that's what they call themselves at the DNC, also left the words under God out. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So what's the point of putting that up? Well, a couple of things. First of all, let's put this all in context and be clear. The DNC on day one did

2:41:53 go ahead and say the words under God in their pledge. That was on day one. They also said on day two in the general session. But in these smaller caucuses, they're not saying it, at least in these two instances. The point is that there is an underbelly of a progressive far left that the Democrats are not to deal with. And that's what's kind of driving the ship. Wow. I'm glad you got that clip because I didn't know the LGBTQ caucus. I knew I didn't realize it was the Muslim group. Who omitted the word God the first time? Yeah, it's kind of like, you know what, this whole show has just proven to me that

2:42:31 The Democratic Party has been dead for at least four years, maybe longer. It's been hijacked by numb nuts and idiots and really truly bigoted racist people who are just so out of control, have no idea what they're doing. They're just using levers. They're pulling levers that jack with people's stuff all the time. And it's going to end, I think, after this election. Everybody will be, it will have to, maybe a whole different party. None of these people can return. None of them make sense anymore. I don't understand how a Muslim caucus could leave out God when your caucus is created around your faith in God. I don't understand unless they had a bigoted, bigoted, wrong God. Allah, I mean they could have said Allah. I mean that would have been fine. No, it's a bunch of bigoted douchebags. Seriously. And then the LGBTQ

2:43:28 I know a lot of gay men who are Catholic, who are very Christian, who go to church, have found a church that is accepting of them. A lot, you'd be surprised. It's quite a big number. I mean, I'm still talking to have the flag, I mean, the LGBT flag on their church. So I mean, I don't understand what, but I'm saying when this makes it out, Specifically, I'm specifically talking to the quote-unquote black, especially the ADOS. A lot of our underpinnings is, you know, in the church or in faith. I'm gonna say church, let me correct that. Because I think the church is dying along with the structure, with the Democratic Party and people are becoming more like their relationship and that kind of thing.

2:44:25 But when you start these stories start to leak out with You're taking God out and then when you look back to 2012 and the whole party took God out of the platform Yeah, there's no good, but they put it didn't they put it back in didn't they like a whole issue? And then they slipped it back in because they the backlash was there. I think something like let's listen to the clip Another alley-oop There's a weird omission from the Democratic platform, which no one can quite understand how or why this happened or what the intention was, because all they seem to have done is rattled cages which didn't need to be rattled. No mention of the word God, even though there was last time and there is about ten times in the Republican platform. Why is that?

2:45:12 Well, we have a commitment through all faith traditions that our values are reflected in our policy. And that means that we should look out for the least of these, that we should fight for the middle class, that we should help everyone in America have an opportunity to be successful. But was the word God deliberately taken out or was it a mistake? Oh, of course not. Of course not. We have a platform that actually reflects the values of many faith traditions and it's the policies... The thing is, somebody has deliberately taken out the word God because it was in the last one. I can assure you that no one has deliberately taken God out of our platform. So it was an accident? What I can tell you is that our policies and our values are reflected in many faith traditions and that's what our platform is all about. That's Piers Morgan, that's hilarious with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Jew.

2:46:08 Exactly hilarious wishy-wish is her identity is a large. I mean her faith is a large part of her identity But now you asked me a question did they take you know did how that went they snuck it out and then they had a vote which I had to clip but it was not the audio was poor and this how it went down and They said, you know, they do the I, and then the nays, you know what I'm saying? The vote, and it has to be two-thirds majority to, you know, to accept it. And the nays... I had it! The nays had, I remember this. By far! And they went, it's passed. Yeah, and the guy, well, the first, I mean, he had to do it three times, because he looked over and he was like,

2:46:57 They don't want to put God back in and he was like, uh, and then he asked again and then he asked for a third time and he was like finally. Yeah, I'd have it. God goes back in. I remember that. Oh man. There's so much shit that goes down that we forget. It's so easy. I'm like Joe Biden with this. Right. But the thing is, When you start talking about Pete's the gate, when you start talking about these kids being harassed, and a lot of, you know, a good portion of our community are truthers, are conspiracy, subscribed to conspiracy theories. That's historical. That there's a bigger plot. Culturally historical, this conspiracy theory thinking.

2:47:44 Well, I mean we're conspiratorial because a lot of things we call conspiracies are. You've had some conspiracies against you. Right. Yeah. Right. Okay. Oh yeah, like they've been giving us bad medicine down in Tuskegee. Yeah. That was a conspiracy until it came out. I mean so yeah. I would say truth seekers is more appropriate than conspiracy. Right. Right. So yeah, you're correct. So when we see these things crop up, you're taking God out and then it comes crops back up again. You're taking God out of the Pledge Allegiance. That was hilarious. And that was the one from this year's from the CBN, which they have a good, you know, ADOS following, the Christian Broadcast Network. So these things start to get legs, right? So I think the Democrats got wind of this.

2:48:36 And they tried to bring some preachers in to pray. Oh goodness. So the first one is Mark Moore Jr. and he does the closing prayer for the DNC of the Black Caucus. Eternal God, Father of Abraham, Isaac, and Breonna Taylor. Before we ask you for anything, we want to thank you for everything. That was unexpected! And why only Brianna? Why only her? Oh my goodness. Let's do that. Wow. Eternal God, Father of Abraham, Isaac, and Brianna Taylor, before we ask you for anything, we want to thank you for everything.

2:49:20 Thank you for the incredible men and women that have spoken truth to power over the course of this week. Thank you for giving an entire generation and people a heart and a vision to mobilize and take back what's ours this fall. Thank you that you're allowing those that have opposed justice and truth and righteousness to realize that their time has come to an end. And God, as we look now to move forward from the incredible speeches and the incredible motivational charges that we've received over the last few days, God, we're asking that you will anoint us anew, anoint us afresh. Give us a heart and a desire to see change take place. Lord, we're thanking you and asking you now that you will not allow us to be comfortable simply tweeting about it.

2:50:11 We're asking that you will no longer allow us to be comfortable simply posting Instagram posts and Facebook statuses about change, but help us to become the change that we want to see. God anoint our hands so that they can do the work that will bring about real transformation this fall. Anoint our heads so that we can think of strategies and mobilize in order to do what needs to be done. Anoint our feet with strength and renewed energy to put the work in as we go about securing a better future for our families, our communities, and our people. Oh my goodness. Let me point out a couple of things before I make my comments.

2:50:51 One, I'm aware touch not my anointing, I get that. But when you start politicizing the church, and I'm gonna say this, this goes for both sides. When Trump went up to the church in DC and they put the shower on him and you know, it's this disgusting thing they do. Where they all lay hands on him. We saw Obama do it, you know, and then we saw Donald Trump while the preachers get around, they lay their hands on the preacher. I don't like that. I don't think there's a reason that church and state is separated. But that's also the family, you know, that group that we talked about, the family, right?

2:51:32 Right, right, right. That's a whole that's a whole nother that go go listen to that. What episode was that Moe we talked about them? I Don't remember. Sorry about that getting up there But what I'm saying is and then you got up Isaac Abraham Isaac and Brianna Taylor. It's like what? Don't don't do that. So now I'm gonna say this Then you throw in doing the work and go. Oh, don't just post on Instagram I don't like this no and it smacks of being disingenuous and My people are not dumb. We see what's happening here and in the Democratic Party No, we got this we got to get off and under this taking God out the platform and taking God out of the Pledge of Allegiance so we got it you're saying we got it and and we know the relationship with the black pastor and

2:52:29 and movements. We know this. We're going back to Margaret Sanger. If you want to get the blacks to do something, get the preachers. And it's like no other time would the Democrats... I will say this. The Republicans at least make the evangelicals part of their platform and their whole structure of their party. I still don't like it. I mean, I can say I'm a separation of church and state kind of person. But you only bringing these people in is like, you know, we need we need a preacher. Go get a preacher. You know, we got to. And then they write. And like I say, he's doing it at the Black Caucus.

2:53:20 Another preacher and I'm sure you heard this one and this is a long clip you can stop it when you want to it's two minutes, but I just want you to listen to the cadence and Just play the clip. This is the age of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor in their name. We need bold policies that will transform our policing system so that we reimagine public safety. We have to have bold policies that insist that health care is not just a privilege for the few at the top.

2:53:56 But it is a right for all of God's children. We need to have bold policies, bold policies that determine that we are going to put an end to environmental racism, which is right there on the front lines of climate change, which has Our planet in I see you we need some Democrats with a backbone who will have the courage and the compassion to recognize the wisdom of Jesus because Jesus said a Nation will be judged by how it treats the least of these and right now I remit Jesus because Jesus would look at this country and Jesus would say I was hungry and you cut me

2:54:41 aid to dependent children. Did a lightning bolt come down and strike him when he was doing this? Zapped him right on the head? This is all political. Is there a test to be a preacher? To become a preacher? Is there a test? You have ordained ministers, you have ones that go to seminary and you know what I mean? There's levels to it and then you have... These guys are trained. Oh yeah. They actually go to seminary and you know get on that. Seminary school. I'll say this, it's the ones that actually

2:55:21 Some of the realest ones are the ones that come up just naturally. I mean, just gravitate towards the faith because they didn't get indoctrinated at these universities with these political leanings. And who is this? Who is this speaking? This is Dr. Frederick D. Haynes. Let's listen. It's only 50 more seconds. Let's listen a little bit to the rest of it. Mine as well. You would not give me a living wage. I was thirsty and you contaminated water in Flint, Michigan and other impoverished communities around this nation. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Is he talking to God or is he talking to the Republicans now? What is he doing? Let me just go back.

2:55:58 I want to hear the transition hold on. No excuse me, he did it for 14 minutes and 21 seconds straight. I was hungry and you cut aid to dependent children and you would not give me a living wage. I was thirsty and you contaminated water. in Flint, Michigan and other impoverished communities around this nation. I was sick, but I did not have access to affordable health care and COVID-19 took me out. I was in prison because of mass incarceration and a criminal justice system that was criminal and downright unjust. I was a stranger and you had the nerve to build a wall

2:56:44 while at the same time you have in the harbor there in New York a statue of liberty saying give me your tired your huddled masses yearning to breathe. Now it would be you know what this is what Joe Biden should talk like this or Kamala you know because it's the same words are saying the same thing it's just in a different it's in a cadence that makes you feel like it's all important And that's why they're tear under Hillary, because at least she's eyes no way side. Oh man, man, man. You'll never hear Trump do that. He just goes, he just says, where's my African-American? There he is. Or he sounds like The Rock. Or it's all cold.

2:57:37 Let me tell you something, brother. I just love it when he says, where's my African-American? There he is. But as he's doing this, I can't take any more of that. But as he's doing this, they flash across the screen to donate text push to 41444 on some straight up TBN style, you know, I mean like what is going on here? Like I said, this is another example of the Democratic Party being out of touch. They don't understand. It's not even out of touch, Mo. They have this magical... I think the people who are running this who say, okay, let's put this together. I don't think this is like a black caucus. No, this is the Nancy Pelosi and she thinks this is how it's supposed to be because I've seen it. That's what a black church is like. Right. It's sick. I don't know, but...

2:58:37 Can you play like the last maybe it will be it well I think we got a dude you could do you clear the clip already? Hey, man, what are you talking to here? Yeah, just just run the last could I want to make a point on this next clip? Yeah, I'll just give you the last time old mass is yearning to breathe free Jesus will say America if you don't get your act together you can you may well go to hell. Oh Thank you. I know that line I know that line. It was somebody that was condemned for using the same kind of rhetoric in 08. I think it was the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. It's Wright who did that.

2:59:20 and the United States of America government when it came... Holy crap, it's the same guy, Mo! Hold on, I gotta play. I gotta play. I gotta play. Oh, that's good. You dirty rat bastard, you knew that, didn't you? You knew it. You knew it, you knew it. Alright, hold on. On a plan, back to back. Alright, DJ in the mix. To breathe free, Jesus will say, America, if you don't get your act together, you may well go to hell. The United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly,

2:59:55 she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on Put them on slave quarters. Put them on auction blocks. Put them in cotton fields. Put them in inferior schools. Put them in substandard housing. Put them in scientific experiments. Put them in the lowest paying jobs. Put them outside the equal protection of the law.

3:00:35 kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law, and then wants us to sing God Bless America? No, no, no. Not God Bless America, God Damn America. That's in the God damn America for treating her citizens as less than human. God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is supreme.

3:01:14 Oh, so first of all to respond to this because you have played this clip in this context for me before and when I heard the whole clip in Condo's episode 44 when I heard the whole clip in context I was like Now the guy's not really an asshole. What he's saying is completely true, and if you hear it all in context, but it was clipped and it was interesting because there was outrage of course from the Republicans, outrage of course from select evangelicals based upon I think just the clip, but the Democrats cowered up like a little shrill snake too. They went, oh yeah, shh, we gotta... and Obama hated it. He's like, I don't want to know about it. Another black man sacrificed.

3:01:58 And now it's, do you think that they didn't know or this guy slipped in? I mean, he's using the same words. No! No! What I'm saying is if you're doing it for our benefit, cool. But if you can cost us something, we've got to sacrifice you. The same thing they did with Killer Mike. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Wow, that's a good one. Thanks, Mo. That was funny. That was really cool. I got to mix it up. That was nice. And to speak on this sacrifice and I'm speaking on just for people like what is more talk about sacrifice? Let's go back and listen to Reverend Ian white Mar from last show throwback clip from 48 talking about the ritual sacrifice

3:02:40 So this lecture focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in particular as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified body of people called white. So in this development of the screen of racial contempt that I'm calling the first stage of sacrifice, While it certainly includes the murder of African Americans, it was the murder of their humanity in the eyes of European Americans that was sacrificed in the development of white identity. More than just debasement, it was the symbolic murder of their identities offered up in order to engender another identity. So Rene Girard writes, the purpose of sacrifice is to restore the harmony to community, to reinforce the social fabric, and that the common denominator that exists behind all sacrifice is internal violence.

3:03:41 And the dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and the quarrels of the community by design are suppressed by sacrifice. Wow. Yeah. So now look at that in the context of Reverend Wright. He was sacrificed to restore harmony. I mean, we use cancel, but what I'm just saying is it's deeper than that. Because anytime, like you said, he was causing rifts They clipped him up and that you know in a soundbite goddamn America, and they're like Obama You got to cut him loose and Obama set his church for years, and he ain't say well You know let's let's look at this and let's listen. No gotta go. I don't I don't know him just like Peter Wow

3:04:35 That's right. And even if they don't, even if they don't sacrifice you, you're going to be, you're saying, put into a role of the concusserve. I got to give all credit to, I got to do this. Whenever a term is coined, I always give credit to that person. This is Dr. T. Hassan Johnson defining what a concusserve is. So as you can see today, we're talking about the reality of black men's disposable role as concu surfs. I've covered this in another show. The whole concept of concu surfs is a bringing together of two basic ideas, the concubine and the surf. And this in many ways has to do with the social expectation of black men, both in the larger society, but more particularly within black America.

3:05:20 The idea that black men are not only disposable, but their roles are to serve as sexual concubines as well as serfs, right? Who are really just designed to serve. You lift, bear that tote, so on and so forth. The disposability, right? So the idea of the concu-serf and how our lives and our deaths can be taken for granted. We don't talk as much about our lives because there's all kinds of contestation and shaming that goes on. We talk about what black men experience in their own community, right? But it's clearly evident in our deaths how we're perceived and how our deaths are often used for everybody's advancement but black men themselves. And one of the biggest indicators of that is how much policy has been developed in the last few decades to stem the tide of those deaths.

3:06:08 Right very little and yet and still the social expectations play on the concussive. Yep, the concussive So early on in the show and we heard it a couple times throughout the show say their name say their name Even with Brianna Taylor. I mean she she's not a black man, but She's being used sure to say their name. It's a reason why they're saying that 38 You know, and my tradition, you offer things that your loved one who passed away would want, you know, whether it's like honey or tobacco, things like that.

3:06:55 It's so important, not just for us to be in direct relationship to our people who've passed, but also for them to know we've remembered them. We should be honoring them in all the ways, whether it's protesting through art, through putting up signs on the freeway. They want us to remember them because they know what it means. They know what it takes for us to be, for them to be remembered. So it's a very important practice. Hashtags are, for us, are way more than a hashtag. It is literally almost resurrecting a spirit to get the work that we need to get done.

3:07:41 Okay, before you tell me exactly the context of this I am a really strong believer in memes and Hashtags, I don't really think of and I'm not a big hashtag fan at all But I do know how they work and I know they're very effective if used properly These things actually do do things to people memes especially do stuff. So who is this? Is this some kind of sorceress? No, this is Patrice Cullors from Black Lives Matter. Oh, a sorceress. I was right. Well, we use the term witch, but I gave you a visual aid and I'll probably be posting it to my Twitter later. Oh my God, that picture. I'm putting it in the show notes, but I'll do it in a hidden thing because it's too jarring just to look at it. Right. She's at a date. She did this thing called a prayer for the runner and that was for Omar Aubrey.

3:08:36 Where I mean, then she did like this whole like they're summoning you what is she's like wings? She's spreading her wings and what the hell is going on? It's this weird. I don't know. It's this weird form of and you can go find the clip It's a whole unit go and look guess who is sponsored by UCLA. Well, if you ask John C. DeVore, I keep saying, oh yeah, it doesn't surprise me. It's UCLA. Right. So if you want to go to YouTube, it's a prayer for the runner by Patrice Cullors. And it's basically like necromancy. And the reason why I'm bringing this, A, to each his own, if what do you believe, but the large amount of voters that are black or so-called black

3:09:24 leaning towards Christian faith or some other type, you know what I'm saying, what do you want to say, Abrahamic faith? You mean you don't say Muslim or you know, but mostly Christian. If this gets out, which it is, and that's why I brought up what my mom was saying about MKUltra, these things are making their rounds. And I saw this thing crop up the same. This is Pizza Gate 2.0. This is Spirit Cooking 2.0. And don't ever underestimate the impact

3:10:01 in these critical areas, like we talked about these pockets in Detroit and Philadelphia. When they hear about this, when it's doing the rounds and they're like, okay, stay away from all that. It gives you even another reason to do something else on Tuesday. It's like, and I'm gonna tell you this, black people are the devil, witches, witchcraft, and I'll just give you a little inside baseball and we can wrap up here. My grandmother, Stop being friends with a woman of 20 years because she thought she put a root on her and a root is like a spell. Yeah It's got it comes from who do Cold stop. I don't mess with emery no more child. And I'll she put that root on me shop with their root not know

3:10:47 And you know, this Black Lives Matter is gonna run flat real quick. I wanna meet your mom so bad now. And I'll lay some MK Ultra stuff on her. Yeah, I mean, I'll try to say she's saying nothing to deal with child. That's exactly what you're going to say. So no, when this gets to and then it's out though. I mean, it's out Mo. I mean, I've seen it. It's come across my timelines. I've seen it. I mean, not this one, but other stuff and some videos and I think there's her admitting some other things. Well, this is obviously her.

3:11:30 And she's the co-founder of Black Lives Matter. Everyone needs to know that. Right. It wasn't clear. And I'm saying this in the context of politics. Whatever you believe, you believe. Some people might think what I believe is crazy. You know what I'm saying? But it's your belief. But what I'm saying in the scope of politics, and you already have a fragile situation with the quote unquote ADOS, quote unquote black crowd. This kid split this get this distinct your boat. Well hold on a second I want to do everything we've learned in the past three hours. Uh-huh we we see We're going to reprogram black men Yeah, and you all these things that have to be done and then the way they go about it somehow they believe that

3:12:22 by removing Christianity basically from the equation or mixing it up to such a degree. I mean, the Republicans use Christianity and faith all the time. You saw it throughout the entire convention. It's a structure thing with the Republicans. It's a structure, order, that kind of thing. But why would you try to undermine or try to mind control Do they maybe, okay here it is, sorry, real-time processing. Do they believe that the problem with these black men in particular is God and if we remove that then they'll come to our side? I'll ask you with scripture. You have to tie a strong man up before you plunder his house. Yeah, that's right.

3:13:17 So that short question, yes, we have no man in the house. We've had a run at him for 40 years. We could teach him anything they want to. And now that that's why I said this is bigger than votes. This is bigger than the election. This is much bigger than the election. Much, much bigger than the election. Wow. Okay. And we'll wrap up with the final clip. Right. You said a lot of things important, but you said something important about remembering them. And I also feel that even beyond remembering them, we're invoking them. Right. So this is an invocation. Right. This is a recognition that

3:14:02 But what's happened as we invoke these names is the invocation of their names that goes beyond remembering them, but also in our tradition, when we call out our ancestors, we call them out for specific purposes. You know, the first thing that we do when we hear of a murder is we come out, we pray, we pour libation and we built with the community where the person's life was stolen. And it took almost a year for me to realize that this movement is much more than a racial and social justice movement. At its core, it's a spiritual movement. And I know you always had this spiritual practice. I remember, like, when we first started, I remember us going to the ocean and doing these rituals and really feeding our spirit. But I don't remember it being so deeply embedded

3:14:57 in all that we did in 2013 as opposed to where we came in 2014. Spirituality is at the center of Black Lives Matter. And I think that's not just for us. I feel like so many leaders and so many organizers are deeply engaged in a pretty important spiritual practice. Well, you know what we need? We need a snappy name, you know, we had Pizza Gate and we need a snappy name for this, you know, like BLM Spirit Gate. That's not the right one, but I'm just shooting straight through the shoulder. And even the BLM, even it be, even be, and I'm gonna tease here for a later date, even the BLM and Chaos Magic, you remove all the vowels. That stands for BALAM. I'm sorry. B-A-L-A-A-M.

3:15:57 Balaam yeah, but you said chaos magic. I like that yes, that means that's what that's what they that's part of what they believe in and in that in that type of magic you cross when you're doing your spells whatever you cross out all the vows Okay, and you were left when you cross out all the vowels and Balaam you left with BLM What go to lens to what you're talking about these hashtags and these means? Oh? Stop it mo stop it Oh my goodness. I should have gave you a TARP warning, I'm sorry. Oh my goodness. Okay, thank you for that. Blew my mind a couple times here at the end of the show. Wait a minute, could you do me a favor? Could you ask your mom?

3:16:40 How do we combat that root she's putting on everybody? Not your mom, but these BLM stuff. There's gotta be... I mean, what... Certainly there's something we can read. I can tell you what my mama gonna say. That's what I wanna hear. She's like, you gotta plead the blood of Jesus. You gotta plead the blood of Jesus. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I don't wanna make this a religious podcast. No, not at all. But I'm gonna tell you what, miss. I'm gonna tell you what mama gonna say. Child, you gotta plead the blood of Jesus. Plead the blood of Jesus. That's exactly what she gonna say. Mm-hmm. Yes, and I'm telling you when my mom was going to vote, COVID everything, she was going to vote. Well, if she hears something like this, she's done. I don't know. I... And that's what I was gonna say. Here's a recommendation. Mom, that stuff, that's MKUltra.

3:17:33 Hmm, which it technically is cuz you look at it dwelling multiple spirits in one body. Yeah, I mean I digress on the DID so oh my goodness. Oh, well, yeah Okay, so here's what we learned a lot, but I think the, and this was a good eye-opener for me, all this, this is the most important election, most important thing, bullcrap. This is what's happening behind the scenes here, and this is really for the United States, but we're foam finger number one, and once again, the black man in America is going to lead the charge, he's gonna hold the door open, but I think this time, we're gonna come in and we're gonna surround him, we're gonna help him,

3:18:11 Because this is something similar will happen in every country around the world. This Black Lives Matter stuff applies to so many countries in similar fashion. Black Pete's in the Netherlands, you know, the Aborigines in Australia. It's everywhere there's this issue and we may be the first ones to confront it and you know and so if we go in and we plead the blood of Jesus and we and we do something about this and expose it the empowerment, the empowerment and the energy that will be unleashed from this group that has had a, like a 60 year awakening, slow process to say, hey, I'm going to sit this one out and next time around, maybe we'll have some better deals. And I'll wrap on this. We have to look at the connection with the NBA, with the big black lives matter on the court that's held at Disney and Disney's past.

3:19:13 All of this stuff is connected. And if you want to have a good chuckle, go look at some early Shirley Temple movies. I mean, it will freak you out. Okay, Moe, I'm so happy to be your friend. I'm happy you're my friend. This is this is incredibly Educational I really love this and if you loved it listening to this podcast for the past couple hours You could have spent your time doing something else a lot of people seem to enjoy what comes out of this the conversation between just two American dudes trying to figure stuff out and

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3:21:02 Lord have mercy. How could you lose? I stretch my hands to you. without your love and mercy. Tell me what What could I do?