28: Black Don't Crack

00:00 One, two, three, four, five! Mo Facts with Adam Curry for March 7th, 2020. This is episode number 28. Fresh back from California from the Joe Rogan Show. I gave us a little plug there, Mo. I heard, I heard. And I gotta thank you, man. You have no idea how much street cred you gave me. Because on this well on this very show, you know, you threw in a little doll some sound effects on one of your clips Yoga flame yoga flame Yeah And so that was in my head and then all of a sudden that came out and I was looking at the YouTube comments on the on the Rogan interview and people like oh man

00:44 Big up to the to Curry with a Street Fighter 2 reference. All right So I look cool with the kids man. I'm indebted. I appreciate it gamer curry Well, I played that for a whole I think I told you I played it for a whole summer with Bill Bellamy You know Bill Bellamy the comedian. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was on MTV at the time and we were at the player We were at the beat while he was really good And we were at the MTV Beach House. And you know, it was a lot of downtime. We were actually staying at the Beach House and for some reason he and I just we would just play Street Fighter all the time. So that's my cred. How are you my friend? I am doing well. Coronavirus didn't get you? Didn't Corona free? Yeah, you're all good. Didn't get you down yet? Okay.

01:34 So, um, doing well. Okay, good. Excited for you being on Rogan and getting the plug and people finally getting, you getting the credit that you deserve being the podfather. Oh, you're too kind, too kind. But yes, it was a renewal card is what I told Joe. I said, thanks man. Thanks for renewing my credibility. I'll come back in 10 years. I need another one by then. People will forget, you know, who knows he'll be the podfather by then. All right. Uh, I suggest we get this show underway and I, uh, Wheel of topics where it stops nobody knows but where it does stop that's where we goes Making it up on the spot the topic for today's mo facts with Adam Curry is cocaine. It's big business in this big crime Oh Are we finally going to look at the music business and their evil ways? Actually, we're gonna look at the drug epidemic being the crack era and

02:33 The reason why I'm diving into this is we talked about stopping frisk on the last show we did and to understand that we had I wanted people to understand how we got to that point of needing stopping frisk so That was brought on by the crack error. Yes So as a backgrounder, I found presented by Snowfall, the TV show on FX. They had a little special call. Here's how the crack epidemic brought a city to its knees. My name is Aaron Williams. I'm a journalist from Compton, California. I've been researching the effects of the crack epidemic for over a decade. Crack is the processed version of the party drug cocaine in rock form. I did try it and from that moment on I was chasing the initial high. It goes directly to the pleasure center of your brain. There's just no escape from it once you're addicted. It was so profitable to sell crack

03:38 Everybody lost their minds. Increased violence, gangs, riots. The crips and the bloods have swarmed eastward. The use of crack increasing quickly. Fearlessly setting up an open-air drug market. The reaction of mainstream America was, oh my god, we have to fix this immediately. I can't wait to hear your take on this topic, Moe. I know some about it, of course, because of the I ran Contra and how the drugs came in. So I know one side of the story, but I'm sure there's a lot you're going to expose us to. Yes, I wanted to get to the human side of the story and also examine some of the characters that are rarely mentioned in the whole crack era and drug war on drugs epidemic that occurred.

04:34 So this show Snowfall, it covers like the creation of crack in a fictional type way. So they did a little background on the event itself. So I guess we'll get into part two of this clip. They work every day to plot a new and better way to steal our children's lives. That was right around the time that Dare came out, the egg in the skillet. This is your brain, Andres. Thousands of dollars in cash and firearms. Enough is enough. Trying to fix things without knowing how they got broken in the first place is a great way to break them worse. You had Ronald Reagan getting involved. Retribution must be swift and sure for those who decide to make a career of preying on the innocent. You have the militarized police.

05:33 I've seen plenty of raids in my lifetime. Have you ever seen the movie Straight Outta Compton where the tank rams in the door? That was right around the corner from my house. I remember thinking, that's a house. People live there. If you are caught with rock cocaine, they were getting these sentences for 25 years. You've got to have mandatory laws. You've got to show people if you arrest them, we're going to keep them. Are we also going to help Joe Biden get elected with this show for his involvement in this? Goggles curry, goggles. Oh, damn it. Hold on a second. Let me put them on. Okay, I'm focused. I'm back. No stone will be left unturned by the end of this show. That's why I said about the characters that are rarely... We know about Reagan, we know about Bush, we know about Oliver North, but we're gonna look at some of the names that you don't hear brought up in both sides of the crack epidemic. One being the crime bill and then the other side being the actual... Well, we'll get to that.

06:38 It's man. It was it was terrible. I mean I was born in 1980. Mm-hmm. So I saw this whole thing unfold Right before my eyes it impacted my family family members People in you saying in my community Was it really something that just started like one day to the next is that how it felt? Yeah. Yeah, it really just showed up overnight and we're gonna get into how it showed up because I We saw it in the media first and then it started to manifest itself in real life. That's kind of how it happened. So let's just get into this final backgrounder, Snowfall 3. People are going in at 20 and coming out at 45. How are we supposed to build a community that way?

07:28 You had this proxy war going on. A Senate investigative panel found that there were people associated with the CIA who were involved with drug trafficking. One of the motives was to raise money for the Contras in Nicaragua. Tonight I can report to you that we've made much progress. It's almost hard to comprehend what might have been if not for this crack scourge that raced through Los Angeles and other major cities. Yeah. So what I want to do now is we have to go back before crack there was cocaine powder cocaine And that was seen as a party drug. I mean you probably know better than I do because you were in the scene Oh, yeah, although interestingly in seven and a half years at MTV Never was offered never saw it around the studios etc of course you know

08:28 Very low key, none of that a lot at MTV itself, but that era, oh yeah. And it was, yes. Yes, indeed. And just for reference, what was those seven year, that seven year time frame? 86 is when I started. So 86 to 93, yeah, 93, 94. So that was kind of right smack in the middle of it, I'd say. So that was the kind of the end of the powder cocaine era and the beginning of the crack era. Yeah. So I wonder if that had something to do with you didn't actually see it because cocaine itself was cocaine powder cocaine was the social drug was the party drug. Yes. Whereas crack was more of a hardcore addiction. Well, when when when yo MTV rap started and that was that had to be around 90.

09:25 I think maybe mid 80s actually. It wasn't, well, 88 maybe, 89. It was later than you think. Most people think it was much earlier, but it wouldn't, you know, Yo! MTV Raps I think was, okay, late 80s. You know, actually I would say there was a lot of heroin that, especially the hair bands, those guys were all into Black Rock and all kinds of crazy, crazy stuff. But most of the hip-hop guys who came by, no, I don't know. Maybe they were just good at hiding it. I hate to disappoint, but it's not like I saw people smoking. Well, the only thing we all knew was Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown were smoking crack. We knew that. Right, and I don't even think Whitney Houston was smoking crack, and that's why she was like a cracker's wack. I think there's something called a wooze.

10:19 Yeah, that's where you put powder cocaine on weed. It's kind of like that. Okay. Yes. All right. She was being the semantics of the word like, oh, no, I don't smoke crack. Right, right, right. Because that's the thing is also crack was like a class thing. Yeah, it was for people was uptown. And yeah, crack was like the poverty stricken version of cocaine. Got it. So I just want to get into the myths and realities of cocaine. Cocaine comes from the leaves of the coca plant found in the northern part of South America.

11:06 For over 1,000 years Indians have chewed the leaves, believing them to be a gift from the gods to satisfy the hungry, strengthen the weak, and make the sad forget their sorrows. Today, according to the latest statistics from the National Survey on Drug Abuse, over 22 million Americans have used or are using cocaine. Yeah, alright. I found this clip to be very important and maybe we want to just earmark it because they originally thought the coca leaf was a gift from the gods for the hungry and the poor and you know people that was down or ridden with sorrow. Right, because it would make you feel good.

11:56 So this is the ideal drug for poverty stricken poor people, especially quote-unquote the black community Yeah, yes wait a minute. So you don't you're gonna tell me that the US government did a study when hey, I got a great idea These poor fuckers over here, let's give them some crack. Well, I Don't think it was that formal mm-hmm, but I think that The way that the difference between how it interacted, I think there's something there. But let's get into myths too.

12:34 There are numerous methods for taking cocaine. Most popular, of course, is snorting or taking it in through the nose, but it can be swallowed, it can be mixed with alcohol, it can be injected, it can be smoked, it can be applied to any mucosal surface. You would be stunned who does cocaine. Everybody does cocaine. It's headlines every day, I guess, in the newspaper I read. They talk about it constantly. People are busting with it constantly. You know, John Valucci died of it. Richard Pryor catches on fire with it. You know, I mean... It's just a nationwide drug. In the past you might see somebody at a party with a drink in their hand and now in feature films you see people with Coke spoons in their nose. It's obviously more intense because of the media making it more fashionable. Especially when you have celebrities or sports figures involved. Oh yeah, there was another symbol was the silver razor blade necklace.

13:29 That was another one. Yeah, it was real big back in the day and the long pinky finger. Oh, that's all I just thinking about it makes me all disgusted. Oh, no dirty ass coke nail. But that was real though because I remember as a kid if you saw that was kind of like a telltale sign that somebody was on drugs like they grew their nails out. Right. So As the clip said and this clip this clip was from a special report from 1983 and if you notice one of the methods of using cocaine was not mentioned was crack Because crack came later like the mid 1980s around 85 86 maybe a little earlier than that. Oh But as I said the movies the movies were pushing

14:20 The use of cocaine. So we're gonna look at the movies as a propaganda vehicle But as you always know we had to go back to some throwback clips. Yeah, we have mr Charles Wood aka the professor and he gave us the real reasons behind black exploitation one of the other things I failed to mention was growing up not only did I want to be a white man I Also wanted to make love to Virginia Mayo Rhonda Fleming these names you have to look up but brainwashed you yes, brother Satan now I'm looking at Pam Grier black chocolate Gloria Hendry now we talking this is something for us Okay, so if movies were powerful enough to make him want to be white I

15:14 If you put these black superheroes, I mean that's how they were kind of shown as your super flies and shaft was shaft of the positive image But the Mac super fly and all these other black exploitation characters mm-hmm, they would shape the mind of The viewer especially young black viewer because those were seen as in a weird way heroes so Why? Why were they heroes? Because they had it made, they had the... You had the money, you had the women, you had the flashy lifestyle, the flashy car, it's a sense of entrepreneurship in a weird way, because you were independent from the man. Right. So you mean being involved in drugs but dealing drugs?

16:07 Yes, dealing drugs. Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, of course. Oh, all right. Bing. I just made the connection. Okay, right. So then you see all these cool, cool cats and it's their, yes, they're entrepreneurs. Of course they're entrepreneurs. And look, and they're making out like bandits. And that's the example. And that was of course put together by white Hollywood. Yes. So you have to think about it in this way. If you put these images in front of, like I said before, they were superheroes. And it was seen as a kind of a victimless crime because the addict wasn't shown in the film. It was like people just having fun and partying and you were the person supplying this quote-unquote party drug. But let's get into the second clip by Mr. Charlwood. These films, they help

17:03 quell those riots. Because remember we had the Kerner Commission studying why we had all these riots. These films helped to calm that down. I called it rioting in the movie theaters. Because all of our anger and our angst, we were able to vent and seeing people who look like us kick the white man's behind. And what was the subtitle of Blacksploitation? Get Whitey. For every drop of black blood spilled, a white man pays. He had a plan to stick it to the man. The man. See, we were beating the man. And so I call it rioting in the movie theater because this was rioting without destroying anything. It was a catharsis for us.

18:01 Is this the genesis of black audiences and movie theaters you can say that Because when you look at the time 19 early 1970s, that's when really segregation had really been officially put to end Do you said? Content movie movies being made targeted towards a black audience So yes, you could say that But I'm more if you listen to the clip and what happened they were playing in the background. It was super fly fly. I heard it So for shaft and being the positive and being the you know, the cop and cleaning up the streets you had super fly Which was the drug dealer and I want to say really the first drug black drug dealer you saw on film of being the head of his own operation and

18:56 This dude is bad. And he ain't just fly. He's super fly, yeah. Super fly. When it comes to women, they come to him. But it's still not enough. He wants a big score. A million in cash. Yeah. The big one. This is a chance and I want to take it. Now. Before I have to kill somebody. Before somebody ices me. What kind of money are we talking about? I want his ass out working.

19:50 Back with now that I took all this chance for nothing and I go back to being nothing. Work at some job for chump change day after day. Look, if that's all I'm supposed to do, then they gonna have to kill me cause that ain't enough. Ain't I clean? Bad machine. Super cool, super mean. Feeling good for the man. Super fly. Here I stand. Secret stash. Heavy bread. Baddest bitches in the bed. I'm your pusher, man. Can a super fly Harlem dude read the system? He's got a plan to stick it to the man. He's super hood, super high, super dude, super fly.

20:39 All right, holy fuck in retrospect in retrospect of you know what I would consider politically correct nonsense today Holy crap. This was this is an outrage. This is saying it right there That's right, man. It's gonna be great deal the drugs stick it to the man Stick it to the man So Superfly was made in 1972. It was directed by Gordon Parks Jr. Are you familiar with Gordon Parks Jr.? Not offhand. He also directed Shaft. Oh, he did both sides of the equation. Interesting.

21:20 So he was a Mr. Gordon Parks. He was groundbreaking American photographer musician poet novelist journalist activist and film director, huh? He was best remembered for his photo essays in life magazine and as director of the 1971 film shaft. I In 1942 he had opportunity to work for the farm security administration brought the photographer to national capital so. He worked for the government. He was basically a politician. A little more than that, he's been accused as being a, and this is a quote from a website, Black Talk Radio, uh, Gordon Parks was nothing more than a farce, a CIA operative who lived among Negro leaders and their followers only to report to the CIA.

22:14 Garden parks was nothing more than a uncle Tom. There's no secret life magazine Let the cat out the bag just like the white people to do this Why the white devil work? I'm reading a quote quote here It says why the white devil worked to clip his wings before they declared him a fallen angel. I He is affirmed to have played a key role in the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Minister Malcolm X, along with Jesse Jackson. We talked about Jesse Jackson in a previous show. Billy Cowes and other CIA operatives. Wow. Okay. This history, you know, even looking at Wikipedia, there's like nothing there.

22:56 No, there's no they're there but I Want to bring some attention to something that you may have seen if you've seen the movie American gangster another movie that talked about the drug trade and how it was one so black man's supply of America where it's also based on on a true story. It's and it's Denzel. All right, he plays he plays that yeah, that's a story It was based on a true story, but they embellished a lot there. But I want to point out to you if you notice his confidant with the big mustache. Yeah, he's always talking to that's Garden Parks. Oh wow.

23:37 Okay, so the thing that one man was I don't want to get off an American gangster tangent But just to think that one man was bringing that much heroin on military planes. Oh, yeah With the government not being involved. Oh, please Yeah, okay, we know that part is not true, but okay. All right So the plot of super fly was basically a suave top-run New York City drug dealer He decides he wanted to get out the game and this film was so impactful that Young people walking around with bags of flour and baby powder just to look cool Just to emulate what they saw in the film Wow So let's get into this is from fan door. It's a YouTube channel superfly and the 1970s black exploitation cinema Mr. Ron O'Neill

24:40 The first Youngblood Priest. The original Superfly. Released in 1972, Superfly, directed by Gordon Parke Jr. and starring O'Neill as the iconic drug dealer, is one of the most iconic titles to come out of the Blacksportation movement. Blacksportation was a genre of cinema that began in the early 70s with Ossie Davis's Cotton Comes to Harlem Mario Van Peeble's Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song and Gordon Park Senior's Shaft. These films were not exactly well made, however they were hugely popular in the African American community because this was the first time the audience got to see films directed by and starring people who look like them. The stars of Blaxploitation films were the heroes of their stories and not just victims or sidekicks to white characters which had been the case since oh...

25:35 beginning of cinema. Mario van Peebles, he was he goes back that far? His father. Oh, I was gonna say Oh, senior. I was like, Wait a minute. Oh, see, I and again, I bet he's gonna come into the picture. Eventually. I've met him. I'm gonna come into the picture eventually. Okay. So we had like the gentleman from Fandor said this is the first time where we had stars. The stars of the movie being black, so that was very inviting. Of course. To say, oh man, he's whooping ass and sticking it to the man, you know, and you didn't realize the drug part of it. Now, is that exactly how you'd say it? Hey man, he's whooping his ass and sticking it to the man? Is that how you... That's the 70s way of saying it. I want to hear 70s Mo say it. That's what I want to hear.

26:32 So that goes from 1972. Now we fast forward to 1983 when another drug narco film came out. Another classic. Yeah, the classic. Okay, so what do you call yourself? Antonio Montana. And you, what you call yourself? Where'd you learn to speak the English, Tony? In school. And my father, he was from United States. Just like you, you know. He was a Yankee. He used to take me a lot to the movies, you know. I learned, I watched the guys like Hoffy Bogart, James Carmen. They teach me to talk. I like those guys. I always know one day I'm coming here, United States.

27:25 1980, Miami. They called it Little Havana, where the American dream had a price tag and only one man in a million was hungry enough to pay. In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then we get the money you get a bar then we get a bar then you get the woman For one brief moment the world was his Say hello to my little friend. Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay this film is so

28:14 Iconic yes and powerful almost every rappers from the 90s either had a scarface motif video. skit on their album reference yeah reference in the lyrics a lot of them had their names Tony Montana yeah listen now French Montana French Montana that guy I find him such a tool but that's just me I'm just showing even to the day yeah one even one of the biggest drug cartel black drug cartels there was was black mafia family they even had billboards put up in cities saying the world is ours

28:58 Huh, so this iconic this film was and it was it shaped it shaped so much of Of the reality in these poor communities Right. Although this was more Hispanic related. It was Hispanic related, but the black community Latched on to it because it's the tale of a you know coming up nothing coming up. That's the term That's that by the way, that is the term that's still used today coming up. Mm-hmm So you see now you went from Superfly to Scarface and one of the iconic scenes from Scarface was the bad guy. You're all a bunch of fucking assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you want to be. You need people like me.

30:01 You need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers and say that's the bad guy. So, what I make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that part. Me I always tell it to Even when I lie So say good night to the bad guy come on the last time you're gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you I Was just looking at and I I didn't know this but this is this film was actually a remake the film was made in 1932 I didn't know that either. Yeah, it was now and it was a

31:15 Produced by Howard Hughes, the eccentric millionaire. Huh. Interesting. I'm glad you said that because something almost slipped my mind. Because I think in 2017, they tried to make a remake of Superfly. Oh, interesting. To reintroduce the programming. When you see films like this, and it's a whole, I could do a whole show on drug-inspired or gang-inspired films that shaped the mind of the quote-unquote black community or black ghetto, because I don't want this to be a representation of the black community per se, but a

31:57 segment of the black community that latched on to this idea and it's no different than the Kennedys. No alcohol. It's no different than the Delano Roosevelt and they made their money off of heroin. This is American apple pie. It's what we do. It's what we do but If you had to be legitimized and another film that I just a small reference to, you saw this with the Godfather 3. It's finally when he made it all the way to the top, he just realized the whole power structure is profited off of the illicit drugs trade, whatever it is, gambling, prostitution, drugs, and alcohol went during prohibition. So here we are.

32:49 So he went from 1983, you have the bad guy, which the bad guy really seems is the good guy. Because in that speech Scarface is telling the truth because he said look at all you people, you're making money off of the drug trade because Miami Beachfront was built Most of the money. Oh, yeah. Yeah off of drug money. Mm-hmm And it's a funny scene in the Scarface film because they're rolling in wheelbarrows full of cash into the bank and nobody's asking any questions Well back in the day it was live you could it was easier. It was Just roll up with cash you could do that. But yeah, exactly everyone everyone was in on it. Everyone was good with it. I

33:35 I have a question for you because I heard you bring this up before, but Comey, is this not back in the day? Would you like to share people with Comey and how that's relevant to him? Yes, the bank HSBC, which is the Hong Kong Singapore Bank of Hong Kong, Singapore, Brazil, China, I guess it is. They, in 2002 through 2000, oh my gosh, I don't even know the exact dates, but in our lifetime were literally taking big piles of cash on the Mexican side where they had bank offices and that would be the drug money, they'd throw the big bags of money into the deposit and then it would go through their system, it would be ingested and then it would come out the other side, you know, completely laundered and good to go.

34:28 and they got busted for it. HSBC got busted for it. No one went to jail, surprise surprise, but on the board of directors at the time who was there to help fix the problem was Mr. James Comey, the FBI, former FBI director. Well, you probably know about him. And just to add to that, one of those guys that I'm sure they were launching money for was El Chapo. That was their main guy. Let me see, the settlement, hold on a second, I have an article here somewhere. I think, here's the headline.

35:08 This is a headline from Matt Taibbi. He's the guy who knows, he's great, Rolling Stone magazine. Matt Taibbi writes fantastic, I can't believe he's still alive actually. It says, outrageous HSBC settlement proves the drug war is a joke. If you're suspected of drug involvement, America takes your house. HSBC admits to laundering cartel billions, loses five weeks income and execs have to partially defer bonuses. I mean, let me tell you, it doesn't matter what skin color you have, my friend, that pissed everybody off. That was not okay. And it's still not okay. And for a little reference, people want to say El Chapo is the bad guy, but in his home community... Oh, a hero, superhero. He's seen his... Same thing with Pablo Escobar. He was a hero. So it's not exclusive to the black community to say the bad guy is the good guy. At all, no. And one of those bad guys that's most famous, it's a fictional character, is Nino Brown in New Jack City.

36:11 Wesley Snipes. We will own this city. Ice-T. Alan Payne. Chris Rock. Mario Van Peebles. Christopher Williams. Vanessa Williams. Tracy Camilla Johns. And Judd Nelson. This is Detective Nick Peretti, big crazy jarhead motorcycle freak reject cop just like you, Scotty. On the streets, there's a fine line between wrong and right. Good and bad.

36:57 Between those who enforce the law... It is a war out there. ...and those who break it. Gone are the days of settling on the street corners, dark alleyways and the back rooms of some bummy-ass bar. We ain't with that no more. In a city where survival depends on friends... It's always business. Never personal. On family, we gotta look out for one another. On trust. On loyalty. On power. Am I my brother's keeper? Am I my brother's keeper? Yes, I am! A family out to run a city are up against cops who know its streets. This ain't business. This is personal.

37:48 This is big business, this is the American way Wow that brings back some memories because this was prime MTV time here's a little side story for you And this was oh, I'm trying to think this must have been right around See, when did New Jack City come out? 91 I guess, right? 91, yes. So it must have been 88, 89. There was a party and it was, I think it was a party for Raquel Welch for some reason. And I was like, oh shit, I'll go say hi to her, Raquel Welch. I mean, all right. I grew up with her. And there were a couple of guys outside.

38:39 And as I came out of the event, it's like, hey Adam, Adam, Adam! And they'd start harmonizing together. And like, oh yeah, here's our CD man, you know, check us out. Color me bad. They were on the street and three years later that was them in this track, right? That was them harmonizing. Isn't that Color Me Bad? Yeah, that was them and that was these guys around like a fire can harmonizing but Color Me Bad had the lead single or one of the lead singles from the soundtrack. Yeah, I Want to Sex You Up. I Want to Sex You Up. Yeah, I remember. Oops, sorry. So this is one of the first films where music and

39:23 The superhero. When I left this movie, I went to see it with my older brother. I was probably 12, 11, 12 years old at the time, maybe 10 or 11 at the time. I didn't know who was the good guy or the bad guy. Wesley Snipes, I mean, he was badass regardless in this movie. I mean, he was just, people just loved him. Right. He played the role so well. And it was, it was mystifying that, wow, like, a successful black businessman, but you didn't see, well you saw the other side of it, but it left you in this weird place. Even for me, I'm coming from a two-parent household, one parent being an educator, the other being a social worker, so I understand I'm not from the place they were portraying, but it was something that was, you celebrated Nino Brown.

40:20 Yeah, I understand. I mean, here's the thing. We were seeing the same thing. We were rooting for the same guys. We just didn't have the same social background. So I think it meant something different. And it shaped the music that was made after that time. Everything became the artist. We went from self-destruction to now the rappers become, and we're going to do another show about the music, but the rappers became almost prototypes or copycats of the heroes in the movie. Yes, of course, of course. That's exactly what it was. And in this movie, New Jack City, Nino Brown lays out the basic plan how to create a crack enterprise. Times like these people want to get high, real high and real fast. And this is going to do it.

41:16 and make us rich. I mean what? People going crazy over this? I mean, really, it look like cracked off pieces of soap. The Colombians and the Dominicans have shown us the way. And this shit is large. But we're gonna do it differently. Go on other days of selling on the street corners. You change the product, you change the marketing strategy. I've seen the future, y'all. And its name is the Carter. Hold up hold up Nino, the Carter apartment's been enjoying it's big. What's up? Yo baby we talking about combinating and consolidating. That's what up. You're not thinking of taking over the Carter. Yeah, we taking over the Carter. We gonna bum rush the whole damn thing.

42:03 the fifth The Dutter man Keisha we need a security force ward off the rival crews to screen out the customers We also need lookouts here here here and here alert us of five all One place to make the product one place to collect our money We will own this fucking city It's so interesting. This is I mean you can put this same format right into

42:53 Eddie Murphy trading places you can put it into well even dolomite in this this basic formula of Okay, I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna maybe not drug related, but it's always like I'm the entrepreneur and being all you know Here's Wesley Snipes. He's like I'm gonna hook up the computer over here and all this stuff going on. It's always that kind of format and It's a system it's just that you know, it's systemic. Yeah This is not like he just had a idea like oh I'm gonna I'm gonna start a crack enterprise, you know, no this this and you asked me a question You said did it just show up overnight? Yeah, so I saw this movie and one of the iconic

43:40 Symbols of the crack era is the crack valve. You know the clear Small little yes cylinder thing and it had the different color tops to it that yeah That was the that was the the packaging right so I saw this in this movie And I remember going to see my grandmother she lived she was um she lived in low-income apartments cuz her my grandfather were low-income and I remember right after this movie walking around her apartment complex and seeing these on the ground. Oh So your question was when did it start to show up? It was like right and in the bigger cities I'm from North Carolina and my grandma lived in rural, North Carolina So it took time for it to make it to those those small areas. Sure, but that in my mind

44:30 That was like, okay, because we live in a lower middle class, working class community. So you didn't really see it there. But when I visit my grandmother, I remember walking, it's vivid to this day, and I was like, oh, that's... What I saw in the New Jack City movie being a 10 11 years old and that's when it started to show up And then you heard people family members. Yeah, they're on that rock. That's what he's called that rock Their names were called rock stars And the term it was like a whole terminology came with it when they would get high and paste they were called ghost busting and it just

45:13 Consumed it was totally made to be cool and turned into popular culture. Yes, but it was still still the dead time. I'm not thinking this while I was hitting when you say you went to these parties smoking crack was a. taboo. Even though people were doing it and people were doing cocaine out in the open, but the crack was something that was kept secret because it was low class and you get called a crackhead. That's really interesting. I mean, when you think about it, of course, I've never really been a... I'm a pothead, but not a druggie.

45:54 And it's really, there's, you know, there's to me personally snorting something up your nose is pretty damn disgusting no worse than smoking something out of a glass pipe but yet it had that stigma. Yeah, because you hear nobody say, oh they're a coke, when you hear coke head You hear crackhead when you compare those two things one is to crackheads to fleece broke dirty, right? Basically homeless Scratching itching where it was like, oh, it's like ha ha Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, where's the bends? Yeah, exactly, right and even in the cynics thing It was the difference because one was the drug of choice and crack was made from him

46:40 Yeah, it was made to target poor people because the small doses are cheap and low cost. And it just kept them high all the time where cocaine was a more expensive than glamorous drugs. So just flashing through my brain, we don't have to talk about it now, but in California today, Los Angeles, you know, we have a heroin epidemic and meth, etc. And I'm just wondering, you know, Where are the parallels? We don't have to go into it. I'm just thinking about that. That's too big to cover in this, but there is a way it's being handled is totally different. We're going to see in this and just for people that know what was going on, just compare in your mind as you're listening along how things are handled now as they were handled back then. Right on.

47:29 So we're going back to another throwback clip and this is from a 1986 special report. Then this was the broken families lead to the streets. You won't find in these neighborhoods the prime time family of Bill Cosby. There are successful, strong black families in America, families that affirm parental authority and the values of discipline, work, and achievement. But not many live around here. Still, not every girl in the inner city ends up a teenage mother. Not every young man goes into crime. There are people who have stayed here to fight for these kids. They're outnumbered by the con artists and pushers. It's not an even match, but they stand for morality and authority and give some of these kids a bracing dose of unsentimental love.

48:18 When their own fathers are missing, kids need someone else to stand in, to practice damage control as the street take over. For these kids, that someone is Detective Shahid Jackson of the Newark Police. He came by his streets march, the hard way. Well, I came up out of the streets, so I know how to get around a lot of that stuff. And I guess the older you get, the more you learn. I was fortunate enough coming up that I never got caught. And I grew out of the streets, but yet I still have some of the street in me. There was a time when he wasn't sure he would make it off those streets. He was an unmarried father at 18 and he had his share of troubles, but he was raised by two parents. His father was a Baptist minister and they pushed him to make something of himself. On Sunday morning on my block, you would see each family almost coming out and going to church. You know, you don't see that anymore. The family unity. Yeah, of course broke down. So I played this throwback clip to show you that the community was prime for this epidemic.

49:23 You had the no man's house had taken hold for like two, three generations at this time. People were idle, people were locked into projects and low income housing. Disillusioned. Disenfranchised. So they're looking for this escape. That's what basically drugs is, an escape. And I've always said this, the super rich and the super poor, there's a commonality there. Because when you get super, when you see these Kids come from super rich families. They don't have anything to worry about. They turn to drugs. They turn to drugs, exactly. Being one Mr. Joe Biden's son. I mean, but there's not here nor there. Many examples of this. Yeah, but I'm just saying that he's not even people to try to stop this epidemic or supposedly try to stop this epidemic couldn't escape it. And if you have everything or you have nothing, you looking for something more out of life.

50:20 Agree, it's with Darren and Aaron. We're really in the same place, but I played this throwback clip Like I said before just to show you the environment that was ready for this drug to come in and take hold Yeah, the timing was perfect almost like it was playing Let's get 86 to What have you learned about these kids? That they need somebody to love them. You know, they identify with us because we don't take any crap. You know, you come in here, you gotta be disciplined, you gotta, you know, follow the rules and regulations. Because when they go out here and deal with life, they're gonna have to follow rules and regulations in life. Self-control and self-esteem, far more important than a good left hook. That's his message to kids like Bernard Wardrick. He's been coaching Bernard for the past four years. It's like a big brother-father image with me and Bernard. There's been times when he's gotten me mad and I've spanked him.

51:22 You know, and his mother knows I'll spank him, and he knows I'll spank him. And sometimes that's what a kid needs to know. Freedom is a lot of the time destruction. The more freedom a man has, a lot of the time he'll just self-destruct. So I try to, you know, keep him in a little cage. Keep him in my arms. Somebody has to say no. Yeah, somebody has to say no you cannot do this. A lot of these kids grew up with nobody saying no. Right. Do you think it's important for them to have men around? Yeah, I think, you know, if you have a one-parent family and it's a mother, she cannot teach you all of the things that a man could teach his son. There's no way. So where do they learn the routine techniques of just daily work and living? They don't. Unless they get it from their parents, they'll get it from the streets.

52:09 Is there a common entity amongst the three movies we've looked at right now? Is there a common ownership, a common production? Is there something that is common amongst those three to trace it back to some form of clear planning? I haven't found one smoking gun, but I just think the industry as a whole. Because the weird thing is you have the media, the news, telling this story of how destructive this drug is or these drugs are but at the same time you have the Hollywood branch of media Glorifying yes drugs, and it's like they're never on the same page. It's like I said, it's almost like it was a system-wide plan to To victimize a group of people whether you mean if you want to cut that

53:13 Group of people to be the poor or you want to say is that the low-income low-income black community? But when they set these things up and never stays confined to the communities targeted it right, but it has anyone ever taken vampy bulls or Well Wesley Snipes got all kinds of problems. He had all kinds of shit going down but I mean there's a lot of people who were involved Chris Rock and A lot of people were involved. Have they ever been taken a task over their participation in this? Not at all. Not the musicians, not the actors, nobody. It's just like I was trying to work. I was just trying to... And here's the common thing, it's better to rap about it or act about it than to actually do it.

54:01 That's what the sanitizer, like, oh yeah, I mean, I could be out here actually selling crack instead of portraying it. It's so amazing that you had a very powerful force speaking against this at this time. And it was Bill Cosby. Yes, and and it's like wow and he would and I think there was a lot of agreement and he had really smart things He very very smart things. He said and of course it became somewhat condescending later on But in the meantime, we know what he was up to. It's just everyone's shit I have no no faith in anyone anymore. But what they realize is that

54:48 The bad guy being the good guy is way more profitable than putting good guys on the screen. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So now we have the propaganda that that port that portion that we just came out of was the propaganda setting up for the crack error. It was the priming of the, you know, of the community to drop this if you want to call it the crack bomb on the community. Yeah, because we as we know, It was it was done by very high up people. Well, let's get into the 1986 to 1989 special report crack era one CBS News takes you on the streets to the war zone for an unusual two hours of hands-on horror Our focus is on crack a kind of cocaine a powerful mind bender and increasingly popular and deadly We call our broadcast 48 hours on crack Street. It's not gonna be happy around here. I

55:44 All right, but I mean you can get it. I can get the good crap You just saw the man try to sell me crack right out in the middle of the street The camera wasn't even hidden during that sequence Had to have seen the camera. It was right here And there just doesn't appear to be any fear of consequence. It's five o'clock on Wall Street on a Friday afternoon. The business day has ended, the stock exchange is closed, people are going home, they're going away for the weekend. But business on the street hasn't ended. It's just beginning. I love cocaine and I couldn't wait to get out of college and start working and making money because I wanted to live that lifestyle So this illustrates that it wasn't only black people buying it It was people on Wall Street as the gentleman said it was the stockbrokers the lawyers the people with the money whenever they create these

56:53 traps, their own children, loved ones fall into these traps. And when I say that, it even goes for the affluent black people. Because like I said, I grew up in a working class, middle class neighborhood. You started here whispers. Hey, did you hear so-and-so was on crack? Did you hear so-and-so? Teachers I saw teachers on crack home. I've seen T. I've seen teachers buy crack from students Man In a good school. I mean I went to a relatively good school. It was just like wildfire So how did it not grab you Moe? Oh

57:42 I told my dad would kill me one. He wouldn't be talking to you. Well you had a man, well yeah you just you said it you had a man about the house there you go. He didn't play that and it was um well let's get into uh crack era facts. Among the facts you should know crack is believed to be the most addictive drug known Estimate, 25 million Americans will have tried some form of cocaine by their mid-20s. One-third of all college students will have tried it before they graduate. 5,000 more Americans are trying cocaine each day.

58:20 So to answer your question, the other narrative about crack was one time and you're a crackhead. Right, right, right, right, right. And coke, coke, coke, you could fly in and out. It's no problem. It's no problem. So I got my dad wanting to kill me on one hand and then you try it once. I mean, drugs in itself was not glorified. I mean, weed. I mean, but weed was never seen as a drug either by Certain groups of people know older people yeah i mean everything was a drug but there was a difference there between we need crack and.

58:57 The narrative was like one try you're a crackhead and so that kind of kept me from it. Is that actually true? I mean, I've always believed that that was true that you want you smoke crack once and you and you're hooked I mean I if you ask me Without the show. So yeah, then you're hooked for it's real hard to get off it. I don't know if that's true I don't even think it's been proven now. I mean say if it's true or untrue, but it hasn't been proven But let's get into so we had these The propaganda started the first wing of the propaganda was the movies. The next swing of the propaganda once the crack was introduced to the community was the crime stories in the news. So let's get into crime three. A boy is in critical condition in a New York City hospital this morning with burns over half his body after a drug related attack. Police say David Opont was on his way to school in Brooklyn when he was dragged off by another boy. He was beaten, bound and set on fire after he refused to smoke crack.

59:57 A 13-year-old boy has been arrested and charged with attempted murder. Today is David's 12th birthday. Yeah, this is what the media does. They do it so well. Similar to how I want to bring something that's current in the news, the coronavirus. There's very little facts. There's very little information, but if they're trying to push a narrative... But be afraid. Yep, they'll push. They'll push. That's right. We're all going to die. You know, South by Southwest just got canceled. Yes. It's a $350 million week for the city of Austin. It's gone. Very huge.

1:00:36 These crime stories start to pop up, like you said this 13 year old kid killed and burned his other kid because he went smoke crack. And then we have crimes 4.1. Police in Kansas City, Missouri are searching this morning for a woman who swapped her infant son for $20 worth of crack cocaine. I remember these stories, living in New York. and watching news. These stories were all over the place. The sell your kid for some crack. This is good. A four month old boy was turned over to social workers after being left in a bar while his mother smoked crack outside. The crack dealer admits that the baby was part of the transaction. She didn't want it. She didn't want it. I don't care about that. It's just the idea that the baby would have been, you know, somewhere instead in her hands. Police say they've identified the baby's mother but have not been able to find her. Oh man.

1:01:30 So now we have these crack really tearing families apart. Well, we had families already torn apart because the man was taken out of the house. Now we have crack destroying the mother. And one of the famous two-part lines was, even though mama you was a crack fiend, you always was a black queen mama. And I'm quoting it very loosely, but You're left with your mother in the house, she's depressed, she's overworked, overwhelmed by, you know what I'm saying, trying to do a two-person job of parenting children, and you need this escape. And the perfect escape was crack. Cheap, available, and quick. And very little understood. I give a pass to the people in the 80s that first started smoking crack.

1:02:23 The reason why I say that is you we never seen anything like this before. I mean you had heroin but heroin was something different because it was a needle and it was you know, it was like a junkie drug. It had, it had, well I was talking with Joe Rogan about this, it had very bad PR. It was, it was not like oh look at all these people dying and yeah junkie drug exactly. It did not have a great, did not have great PR. And a lot of times people first started getting introduced to crack by mixing it with weed That's why I said the whole Whitney Houston thing. That was a status thing that she was saying. Yeah, my crack is wet Yes, I don't do crack a lot of people and I'm speaking from personal experience of people I personally know they got introduced not by smoking the rock but it was putting weed first and they smoke it that way and then there didn't

1:03:14 addiction would progress right to flat-out smoking crack pipes which I'm trying to figure out how crack pipes were manufactured in the first like where's this factory making crack pipes it well down first of all but I mean I digress on that I'll bet you dimes the dollars it was coming from China just saying So now this is the Hegelian dialectic working its way. You have pressure from above and pressure from below. One was the propaganda of the movie and the movie and the film industry saying how cool it is and making the drug dealers heroes. And now the pressure from above is coming down with the media, the news media telling how terrible crack is and how it's basically turning neighborhoods into war zones.

1:04:10 So this is by plan, I believe. This is my hypothesis. You want to say something? No, I'm just shaking my head. Yeah. So let's get into crime 4.2. A woman who allegedly smoked crack cocaine just hours before giving birth has been charged with giving a drug to her unborn child. Kimberly Hardy of Muskegon, Michigan faces charges of second-degree child abuse and delivering cocaine. She could be sentenced to 24 years in prison. Ten similar cases have gone to trial in the United States this year. Only one ended with a conviction.

1:04:49 So the outrageous building, you have kids being killed. Now you have the famous crack baby. Crack babies is a real thing and it's something that's very little talked about because if you think about it, where do they go? Where did the crack babies go? They just kind of blended into society. Is this where there's crime? I'm asking a rhetorical question because I don't have an answer for it. Well, I think that Child Protective Services has a big role in this and not a positive one. Do you have Ritalin because these kids were born addicted to drugs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have pharmaceutical industry? They were basically customers who were customers right out of the womb.

1:05:38 But my further question is where are they now? These are kids at my age. They're probably doing podcasts Nobody answers that question, you know And it's a good question because you'd almost You could you could easily put together especially you know, these were the crack babies. I don't know if they're alive man. I Are they parents? Because you think about it. I was born in 80. These children were born 85 to 95, let's say. That was like the huge crack era. Those kids are 35 to 30 years old. So they could easily have children 15, 10 to 15 years old or younger. Is this crime we're seeing in the streets now the second generation of crack babies?

1:06:35 It's a good question. It's worth looking at. I don't know. I mean, I just wonder how many crack babies actually survive to go on to lead productive lives. Yeah, being riddled with addiction such as that is. But as we have the narrative growing, it's the slow drumbeat. You see what's going on, we have crime, we need to do something about it, and let's continue with crime 4.3. In Kansas City, Missouri, police are investigating the shooting death of an 11-year-old boy at a suspected drug house. Frederick Jones had lived in the house up until a month ago. He went back with his sister Saturday night to get some belongings. As he opened the door, he was shot dead. A 14-year-old boy has been arrested, but other children in the neighborhood are still frightened.

1:07:25 I feel sad and I would stay in the house, stay in the house. I don't want to get shot. The world is not going right after all. God might take care of him if he goes up to heaven. Police think Jones may have been shot simply because he didn't identify himself at the door. By the way, Crack Baby's a new name these days. What's that? Neonatal abstinence syndrome. That must be for the, is that for crack babies or opioid babies? Describes a newborn that has been exposed in utero to harmful drugs or alcohol. Isn't that amazing how they come up with a politically correct scientific name. Yeah. Neonatal abstinence syndrome. Really? Crack baby.

1:08:21 Jeez, that's it. That's you know, George Carlin does a bit about that. It used to be called he came back from war and he was shell-shocked Uh-huh, and now it's you know post-traumatic stress disorder So it's all about the narrative and the names that they use and the narratives. So once again, the drumbeat is growing and I'm going somewhere with this. I'm headed somewhere with it just for people that's wondering, but crime 4.4. They're the youngest victims of the drug crisis, the children of addicts, those born addicted or those suffering maltreatment and neglecting cracked households.

1:08:58 Last month in Detroit, a court case offered one of the most shocking examples of how a child can suffer from a parent's addiction. A 30-year-old woman, Susan Barber, was sentenced for turning her 13-year-old daughter over to a man to be raped in return for a supply of crack. Your actions in this case were reprehensible. The act in itself is terrible. But when it occurs in this fashion between a mother and a child, as I've indicated, it exceeds all bounds of decency.

1:09:41 We have this steady drumbeat of crime, crime, crime, affect the community, and people in the community want answers. People in the community wanted action because these are their children being shot. These are their grandchildren being born dependent to drugs. Another common thing I noticed when I was of that age, a lot of grandparents would have to raise their grandchildren. So you have a single old lady, 50, 60 years old with a newborn baby. This was a common occur- I mean this was very common. A lot of my grandmother's friends had to take on their grandchildren due to this epidemic. Now, I'm sure people were clued into what was going on. Did they not see the systemic nature of this or was it just so vast and so overwhelming that there really was no

1:10:36 You couldn't see the forest through the trees, I guess. You took the words right out my mouth. I'm going to use the same analogy. It happened so fast that you were like, it's like being dropped off in the forest. You didn't walk into the forest. It's like somebody just dropped you into it. You're there. Got it. And you look around, it's just like everything is changing. This is when you hear, and I refer to my grandparents a lot, but this was the difference in generation. They grew up where you didn't have to lock your doors at night. Now you start to see the bars go on the windows Yeah These neighborhoods literally became prisons because you were living in households with bars on the doors and bars on the windows and three to four locks on your doors. But there was one death, there was one death that brought this whole thing to a climax. And it's covered by the historic controversies with Chris Kelton.

1:11:39 On June 18th, 1986, a young basketball player named Lynn Bias was celebrating. The Boston Celtics had recently selected him as their first round draft pick and Reebok offered him a multi-million dollar deal. Even before he played in the NBA, he was a national star. At night, he went to lie down saying he didn't feel well and he never woke up. At 8.55 in the morning on June 19th, he was pronounced dead from heart failure. The autopsy revealed that there was cocaine in his system and the ramifications from this would be enormous. Now, it's worth clarifying here that the medical examiners did attribute the cocaine to his death. I've heard some people argue that they never concluded that cocaine was the cause of his death, only that it was in a system, but the medical examiners did conclude that cocaine overdose was the cause of death. However, the media and the government jumped on a few things about this story that are under dispute. One is that Lin Bias was smoking crack.

1:12:37 In reality, they don't know how he consumed the cocaine, but it probably wasn't crack. One report speculated he could have smoked freebase cocaine, though that wasn't really popular in 1986, but others said he either snorted it or swallowed it in a drink. Nobody knows exactly how he consumed the cocaine, but I personally remember being taught in school that he smoked crack and his death occurred right after crack was starting to make national news, so it was a convenient narrative to jump on. Oh yeah, is this where Nancy jumps in? Nancy Reagan? Is this where the war on drugs came in? This is where the war on drugs starts to begin. So Len Bias, just for reference, I want to give people... Have you heard of Len Bias? Yes, yes I have, yes. I'm sure you have, but just to give people a reference of Len Bias, imagine LeBron James when he first got drafted and before he even plays in the NBA dies of a crack overdose.

1:13:35 He was the equivalent of what a LeBron James is now right before he became super famous, but the potential Oh, yeah. I mean this guy was amazing I mean he was he's gonna be better than Jordan Because they came around came out about the same time out of college and that was the comparison then boom He was wake up more one morning. He's dead and he's in and the story is he smoked crack for the first time and he's dead Mm-hmm So so of course we we aren't we aren't intended to know what really happened because a narrative was created and that's it and Actually, it's I'm reading here now the Len bias law there you go there you go Let's get into part two the primary reason that it was reported that he used cocaine for the first time was that the media and the government had already been cultivating an image of cocaine use that it was instantly addictive

1:14:31 So using cocaine and crack one time could make you completely addicted. I also remember being taught this when I was younger, but it's completely untrue. That narrative about cocaine addiction is an absolute fabrication. Part of the reason it was easy to spread this narrative in the case of Lin Bias is because prior to his overdose, the media was presenting him as this squeaky clean kid from a good family. So they just concluded that this must have been his first time using cocaine. Regardless of the actual specific circumstances of Lin Bias's death, this was the exact kind of catastrophe the government couldn't let go to waste.

1:15:09 On the morning that his death was reported in the press, Lin Bias was all anybody could talk about in Congress. Tip O'Neill, the Democratic representative of Boston who was the Speaker of the House at the time, was screaming for blood. There had better be some anti-cocaine legislation and it had better not be something that the Republicans could take sole credit for. With the death of Lin Bias, the cocaine scare of the 1990s had reached its apogee. This is where everything changed. Yes Now you see what I'm out the pressure from above pressure from below they needed a narrative But before we continue I think it's a great time to take a pause I like new money. I don't know if you do but Is this what the pause you were looking for yes Diseases on it. I like new money and when I give I

1:25:08 Max point of attention for this with the death of limb bias and I want to bring in another throwback clip and this is from the series rock that was on Fox and this is from the episode nightmare on Emerson Street. I got a nice little thing going across the street you understand and I don't need somebody like you messing things up with your little phone calls to the police and your stupid-ass block parties this ain't none of your damn business man You understand? I'm trying to get paid, you understand? And I don't need you butting into my affairs. I thought this was a nice neighborhood, man. Yeah, it was a nice neighborhood. It's always been a nice neighborhood. Yeah, well, I hear what you're saying, brother. But I'm a businessman, you know what I mean? You're a businessman? That's right. Is that what you call yourself? You ain't no businessman. You're a murderer. And you're killing your own people. Now, you may have done your killing someplace else, but it ain't happening here. I don't think I made myself clear.

1:26:10 I don't want your drugs. I don't want your money. I want your sorry ass out of my house and off my street. You understand? Okay, but now you gotta stop this now. Stay out of this, Ellen. I don't think you wanna do this, G. Oh yeah, I've been wanting to do this ever since you moved. No, I don't think you wanna find one of these loved ones of yours in one of those garbage cans you pick- If you ever so much as look in that direction, I'll run down on you, I'll break your back! I'm not crazy! You don't know how crazy I am! That was a Charles, is that Charles Dutton? Yeah, Charles Dutton, yes. Yeah, I remember this show. It was very good actually. Fantastic, fantastic show. And they actually did several of the years live. They would do it live.

1:27:04 Oh, I think I remember that. So it had Jamie Foxx and a lot of... Yeah, yeah. I mean, this was a weird... I was transitioning into Internet Man from MTV guy, so there was a lot going on, but I do remember this. Oh, yeah. And the reason why I played this is to show the frustration of the people living in the neighborhoods. Because this was happening in real time. He was making this show as what was going on in the city of Baltimore. It's amazing that he was allowed to do that, that they put it on the air. It was and it's amazing that we don't have any more shows like that on television. I wonder what that is. We're regressing. How weird. But it showed the frustration of the citizens living in the neighborhood. They were being held hostage. They couldn't walk up and down their streets. Their communities were becoming war zones. And they turned to their bullet politicians.

1:28:06 And I think I explained this on the last show and that was really the genesis and the motivation for making this show. They said we have to do something in this community. My kids can't walk down the street, kids getting hit by random bullets, my property is being vandalized and burglarized by crack addicts. You have to do something. And those bullet politicians, their solution was the 94 crime bill. So 25 years after the 1994 crime bill was enacted, we are still having conversations about the import and significance of the bill. That 1994 crime bill, it did contribute to mass incarceration in our country. It's important that people

1:28:53 Remember the context of the political environment in the early 1990s. The other big piece of legislation on Capitol Hill tonight is the crime bill. Now violent crime peaked in 1991 and the drafters of the bill didn't know that in 1993 and 1994 when they were drafting and signing it. Urban areas, urban cities across the country were ravaged by crack cocaine and Americans were afraid of crime. The 1994 crime bill was signed by President Bill Clinton. This was a pretty significant bill at the time and President Clinton and Senator Biden at the time were right that the bill was significant. The most significant federal

1:29:37 It was important for a Democrat at the time to be seen as taking a significant role in trying to reduce crime and violence in the United States. I don't know how deep we're going to go into the crime bill itself, but nothing bothers me more in today's politics, in particular with Super Tuesday and South Carolina

1:30:15 The Joe Biden's relationship to the 94, actually the full title was Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, is always like, well yeah, you know, yes I was part of that. No. He wrote this. Joe Biden wrote this bill. I know it. No one brings... I don't see any black people on television saying those words, Joe Biden wrote that bill. Not involved. No, wrote it. He wrote it. Well, sir, you have to listen to Black Podcasts, what is termed the new Black media. This is the only people that's going to hold him responsible because the establishment Democrats, the boulé politicians, are going to protect Joe Biden, as you saw with Jim Kleinberg in South Carolina.

1:31:16 He just wrote off all of Joe's sins. It's like, oh Joe's great. Now on Black Twitter, Black Podcasts, which I think is a different app. I've got to figure out what I need to download. Is this being said this clearly? I mean, well how about Klyberg? Is he being taken to task? Because I think his endorsement of Biden made it happen. He's the biggest butter biscuit eater there is! And the next question is, why are people's memories so flawed? Or is it what is going on that a single African-American comes out... a single person from the poor neighborhood of this era, maybe that's more fair, I mean where's the outrage?

1:32:13 Is it just being completely suppressed because the media is not doing anything? Crown Bill 2. And at the time, the Congressional Black Caucus was part of the debate around the crime bill. And the Congressional Black Caucus didn't want every provision that was included in this bill. It became clear that the provisions in the 94 crime bill were going to be a political compromise. And so the history is much more complicated than is sometimes portrayed by the media. Now what did the bill do? Just like a lot of political compromises, there was the good and there was the bad. For example, the bill eliminated 19 types of semi-automatic assault weapons. It also provided huge amounts of funding to hire cops. 100,000 cops were funded. It was about $14 million at the time for community policing. The bill also enacted the Violence Against Women Act that provided funding to protect

1:33:15 women and victims of domestic violence and crimes against women. But the most pernicious provision of the 1994 Crime Bill was its $12 billion that was authorized for states across the country that would enact what's called truth in sentencing laws. That funding literally paid states to increase the number of prison beds that they allocated for Individuals convicted of violent crime in this country to serve 85% of their sentences behind bars The reason that provision is so important and the reason we're still talking about it today is the federal government Essentially subsidized states across the country to build more prisons Yeah, and I think it was I think it was more than 18 billion I recall it being more and this this of course spawned the

1:34:11 Cops the community oriented policing services that that was the acronym and Mass incarceration of course of course and and and death penalty 60 new death penalties including Drug offenses is nuts Now that clip was loaded with a lot of stuff, so we might need to go back and maybe listen to it again. I don't know. But one thing you asked, you said, why is nobody pointing the fingers in the mainstream? Why is nobody pointing fingers at Joe Biden? Well, if you were a member of the Black Caucus at that time, if you point fingers at Joe Biden, do you point fingers at yourself? Yes, because they were clearly involved.

1:34:56 They were asking for it. We gotta do something. Now, I wanna go back just a little bit and that's why I played the throwback clip, Broker Families Lead to the Streets. The reason why I played that is that gentleman that was interacting with those kids was a police officer. And if you use police officers from the community, then they have empathy and sympathy for the people they're trying to police. But you go and mass hire policemen from outside the community, and you weaponize them with military gear that can tear doors off, and then you turn around on top of that and build $12 billion worth of new prison beds. Who's going to fill those beds? And people who listen to this show, you need to

1:35:49 You need to tell people to listen to this podcast. You really do because the way it is passed off, it's so embarrassing. Well that was yeah that wasn't good. Fuck! It wasn't good. It was atrocious. It was complicated. That's the term and this could be from NBC. No it was problematic. Yeah, that's the term. The term this reporter used was, it was complicated. Now if you were a politician that made it to the national level of politics, somebody says we're going to build 12 billion dollars worth of new prisons. First of all, you ask, who are you going to put in those prisons? I mean, empty prisons don't make any money and they don't serve any purpose. So obviously you have an idea to lock people up. But then on top of that, they're going to have to serve 85% of their of their sentence. So now we're not only going to fill the beds, but we're going to ensure they stay filled. Also, the prisons were commercial enterprises.

1:36:49 This is the Correctional Corporation of America, I think it's CCA. It even came up in a debate the other day that Tom Steyer had actually purchased one of these commercial prison companies. And I guess once he decided to run against Orange Man Bad, he's like, oh, I have to sell that, that's no good. What a bunch of hypocrite douchebags, unbelievable. and a lot of these bullet saw a great investment opportunity. Yes, I can take this money. It was political capital and real capital because I could take this money. They were going to build new prisons and they become investment. I can invest in them. I pretty much do what my constituents want by cleaning up the streets, but not realizing whether they ignored it or didn't truly didn't realize it that

1:37:44 you're going to be locking up your constituents' kids and grandkids and nephews and nieces and you know, so yeah. But this was all one big plan and now they try to cover up for it because a lot of them have dirt on their hands. Now you start- I'm sorry, I'm sorry, let me just interrupt. The plan, you say it was one big plan, but it was really the Black Caucus that pushed for it. Correct what they have no power right, but they wanted it. They started the they start the conversation They started it was like we need this we need this or where did do we know the real Genesis?

1:38:27 The conversation came from the citizens living in the community saying you need to do something. The problem wasn't that there was a solution, the problem was the solution they chose. It wasn't community policing, it wasn't how they're handling the opioid addiction now. They said let's throw 30 billion dollars at this and let's get some basically Rent a cop, hire a... what's the analogy I'm looking for? Like the mercenaries. Yeah, there were mercenaries and like I said, they were really militarized because in the first clip I believe the guy said if you've ever seen the open clip of Straight Outta Compton, it was a tank. They had tanks that could rip bars off of windows and doors and it's like bad enough and this is a term everybody wants to talk about post-traumatic stress.

1:39:22 syndrome. Now imagine you live in a neighborhood where gangs are trying to kill you. Say if you're straight, if it's me, just put me in that community. I'm just want to go to school and get an education. You know, say I have a better life. I had to make it past the gang members who was trying to recruit me. I had to make it past the crackheads who was trying to rob me, kill me. And now I have to worry about stopping frisk and these sort of militaristic policing practices of being thrown against the wall and copy a Xerox because you look like the perp. I know your situation was different. Did you feel any of that to a degree?

1:40:08 To a degree, yes. And the thing was, here's the crazy thing. Us as kids, we dressed like the problem. We acted like the problem. We talked like the problem. Well, that's what you were being conditioned to do, of course, through the entertainment. Oh, geez. through the propaganda. So now it's like... Here's what I don't understand Moe. Moe, I don't understand. We've done... the United States government, the Boule, they've done so much work. How come you guys are still around? I can't believe they didn't get rid of all of you. Very resilient my friend. Holy crap. This is the story of our lives. I mean you can't take us home. If you see the life of this show

1:40:57 from episode one to now, throughout history, there's been a concerted effort to take us out. Can we agree to that? Yeah, but it's so dumb. I don't understand. Well, there has to be a bottom. Yeah, that was one of our first shows actually about the bottom. You're so yeah, this got you have to have a bottom. Tag, you're it. Nice. You have to have a bottom. When you do it on color, it makes it very easy to identify who the bottom is. But I want to get more into this 94 crime bill that was passed under Bill Clinton.

1:41:37 22 years ago the country divided over a controversial far-fetching anti-crime bill brought to Congress by former President Bill Clinton. Hold on, stop. What do you mean the country divided? There was no division. Yeah, poor people, black people, they were against it, but there was no division. I'm sorry. I was around. I don't remember that. I don't remember any division like that. Okay. Critics blame the law for record-breaking incarceration rates and with further devastating poor communities. Well, just last week, President Clinton, as you know, was interrupted by Black Lives Matters protesters upset about the 1994 crime law.

1:42:15 The president admitted a year ago that the law jailed too many for too long while speaking at a convention for the NAACP. Clinton supported her husband in signing the law, law when she was first lady. In recent days, the former Secretary of State has been trying to clarify her husband's remarks on the law without trying to denounce them. Now, Bernie Sanders, along with 187 Democrats, voted for the bill in 1994, and he is now criticizing President Clinton, saying that he needed to apologize to the American people. Joining me now is Congressman Bobby Rush, who voted in favor of the crime bill in 1994. He has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. Tamara, it is my pleasure. It always is great to talk to you. Let's put some perspective on what was happening. You were there 22 years ago. Do you believe the way the crime bill is being described now versus what was happening on the ground in some of that video, is it matching here?

1:43:17 Well, before we let Bobby answer, another reason why I made this show, they're going to try to rewrite history again. I mean, you pointed out with Joe Biden. Sure. These clips I've taken here on the Crown Bill was from the 2016 cycle when there were whitewashing, no pun intended, Hillary's sins. You know, it was well, the country was divided and it was difficult and you know, what can we do? We can't proceed this. They're going to do the same thing again and everybody wants to point the finger at Joe Biden, rightfully so. But Bernie Sanders also voted for this.

1:44:04 Bernie, you couldn't see? I mean, you're a socialist. I mean, you should be against the government, you know. Yes, but the Schwarzer children are the problem. Sorry. Right. Little interracial, interfaith humor there. Yeah, so I'm making this clear so everybody can see. Everybody has a little dirt on their hands. The Black Caucus, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton. you go down the list. Hold on, I want to put your black actors etc in that as well. They are also complicit. Yeah, they were trying to make a dollar but a lot of harm was done.

1:44:45 Of course, I mean the musicians and we're gonna get there too, but um, let's let Bobby Explain why he voted for the crime bill? Let me start out with this. I am ashamed of my vote I sincerely apologize To my god apologize to my community, to my family. That was the worst vote, as I look back over the years, that I've taken since I've been in Congress. It was a vote that really was accompanied with a lot of hope.

1:45:34 that we will finally be able to deal with not only the issue of crime in our community, devastating crime, but then we will also be able to do those things and have those programs and policies to deal with the other kinds of issues, the other problems in our community. And what happened with the crime bill and its implementation was that there was too much of a focus, too many resources on locking them up, but no resources on love and compassion. And as a result, we have devastated our communities, devastated our families, devastated our futures.

1:46:30 So there you have it. Oh, we didn't know what was going to happen. We didn't know what happened if you build 12 billion dollars worth of new prisons. Seriously, really? No, really. It's such bullcrap. You're not that smart and that dumb at the same time. You just can't be. No. But we're looking at it from a political standpoint of the wrongdoings. It goes deeper than that. Of course. And we're going to go there. And going back to the movie New Jack City, there was a scene, a court scene where Nino Brown and all the bad that he'd done let some truth out. You're the one who's guilty. Lawmakers, the politicians, the Colombian drug lords, all you who lobby against making drugs legal, just like you did with alcohol during the prohibition. You're the one who's guilty. I mean, come on, let's kick the ballistics here.

1:47:31 Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem. I mean, not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing is bigger than Nino Brown. This is big business. This is the American way. The business of America is business. And now I'm sure we go to exactly how it all came about. Yes we do and we're going to let one Mr. Gary Webb in a throwback clip explain it in his own words. My name is Gary Webb. I am an investigative journalist. I've been an investigative journalist for about 25 years for daily newspapers and in 1996 I wrote a series of stories entitled Dark Alliance which was about CIA involvement in drug trafficking.

1:48:20 What my story showed was that the cocaine that was being sold in those neighborhoods was coming from mainly one source, and this one source was being used to finance a guerrilla war in Central America. The general idea of the CIA dealing drugs was something that the American mainstream press had never written about before and that's why it prompted outrage among blacks, among drug reform activists, among politicians, by the CIA, by every federal agency involved in the drug war because it showed they weren't doing their jobs, that it was a fraud.

1:49:06 Yes, this is a very one of my favorite stories of Gary Webb, a true hero in reporting this in the Mercury News and a running joke that we've had on no agenda is you know, careful or you wind up shooting yourself in the head twice. And that's literally what the cause of death has been recorded as. Two gunshots to the head, a suicide. Which is just so... I think the gun was in his left hand too. It is so incredibly hard to do that. Which of course means he was taken out. But yeah, Gary Webb really blew this wide open.

1:49:51 And we, for the ones that done the investigation on this topic, we've heard about the role of Reagan and Bush and Oliver North and the people of that nature. And a little known fact here. We've known Compton, California was one of the epicenters of the crack cocaine. And I remember hearing this as a teenager that yeah, the CIA showed the gangs how to cook up crack in Compton, in South Central LA. Well, here's a little did you know, well, Richard Nixon, he grew up in Yorba Lindy's Citrus Ranch. Ronald Reagan spent time in Bel Air.

1:50:41 But did you know the Bushes was straight out of Compton? The Bushes? Yes. No I didn't. This is from Gizmodo. It says, actually the Bush family only called Los Angeles County suburb home for six short months in 1949 to 1950. George H.W. Bush, the future 41st president of the United States, was on a temporary assignment in California for the dressing industry, selling oil drill bits for the security engineering company.

1:51:20 Now, the future CIA, head of the CIA, and the CIA was known for their role in the Iran-Contra scandal and the proliferation of the crack epidemic, happened to live in Compton, California. And that's where one of the representatives of the crack era started it. I didn't know that. You know, because you think of Compton, all you think of is, you know, is straight out of Compton. Literally, you know, those are the images that come up in your head. I didn't know this, but I'm looking at us. Due to white flight, it was a white community where it became majority black.

1:52:03 And then all of a sudden this is where crack started. I mean, it's like one of the birthplaces of crack cocaine. How'd that work out? Fantastic. That's just a coincidence. Yeah. But of course, but another epicenter of the crack epidemic is Mina Arkansas. On October the 7th, 1994, Sarah McLendon, the senior White House news correspondent who has covered 11 presidential administrations, beginning with that of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, demonstrated once again that she has the courage to ask the hardball questions other journalists only dare to think.

1:52:42 As she confronted William Jefferson Clinton about the Central Intelligence Agency's involvement in nefarious activities, activities set at a remote airport in western Arkansas while Clinton was Arkansas' commander-in-chief, she finally cornered the man who was a co-conspirator in bypassing the Constitution of the United States of America. In doing so, the president was not only forced to address the looming scandal that may impeach him. Clinton once again demonstrated his trademark talent. He lied. Yeah, and what is kind of interesting is, you know, if you follow the entertainment track of this, of course, Tom Cruise just did a movie about Mina Arkansas. Which he had to change the name. Yeah, but it was also missing some key elements like, I don't know, Bill Clinton, the Bushes.

1:53:33 Yeah, it's a yeah people don't really know this but it's like here's how you Here's how you set the narrative, but here's also how you polish off all the old crap. You know, just make a movie about it, bring in the top guns, to coin a phrase, and focus it on Barry... what was it? Barry Sands? Barry Shields, I think his name was? The pilot. And make it all about him, and just completely get rid of all of the history, and lo and behold, the history goes away. Except for on this show,

1:54:08 Doesn't that sound very similar to how they rewrote history with American Gangster and having Frank Lucas be the face of all heroin in the 1970s in America? You know, the Pentagon and CIA have offices in Hollywood, so yes, of course, of course, it's how you do it. So, we're going to listen to Ms. Sarah McClendon ask Bill Clinton about his MENA connection. Sir, the Republicans are trying to blame you for the existence of a small air base at MENA, Arkansas. This base was set up by George Bush and Oliver North and the CIA to help the Iran-contras, and they brought in plane load after plane load of cocaine there.

1:54:51 a sale in the United States and then they took the money and bought weapons and took them back to the country, all of which was illegal as you know under the Boland Act. But tell me, did they tell you that this had to be in existence because of national security? let me answer the question no they didn't tell me anything about it they didn't say anything to me about it that is what by the way that's what we call a performative where you're going to say something well let me say this about that or let me answer the question doesn't mean you give an answer The airport in question and all the events in question were the subject of state and federal inquiries. It was primarily a matter for federal jurisdiction. The state really had next to nothing to do with it.

1:55:37 The local prosecutor did conduct an investigation based on what was within the jurisdiction of state law. The rest of it was under the jurisdiction of the United States attorneys who were appointed successively by previous administrations. We had nothing, zero, to do with it and everybody who's ever looked into it knows that. Bullshit! I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Did you hear answer? Yeah. I didn't hear an answer. I heard a bunch of talking. Of course not. Let me answer that. That doesn't mean he's given an answer. Not at all. And this lady, Sarah McLendon, like you said, she's under 11. 11 administrations. She's no lightweight. No, no kidding. For her to ask that question, it had to be serious smoke there.

1:56:27 But as you why is this not being brought up and why was this not brought up in the 2016 election? Why was this not being brought up now? Well, it was definitely it's been discussed but not in the mainstream. No, of course not no and It's a lot of people this thing and we one thing I didn't I didn't want to clip it with Maxine waters she had she held a hearing in Congress on this very topic and But now all of a sudden she has, yeah, she has a, um, she, her memory is slipping her now. I don't remember. Go, go look it up. Maxine Waters. Uh, it was not really think clippable because it was like long drawn out answers, but yeah, Maxine Waters, she knew what was going on. But, and, and let's not forget, uh, Barry, uh, Barry-o.

1:57:21 He was in his book, he confessed to selling drugs and we've covered his connection with the CIA. All these things are just so convenient. So, so very convenient how they're all connected, but nobody points the finger at anybody in this day and age where we want to expose everybody. My millennials stay woke. Okay. Great words, Maxine. All right. So let's get into the final clip of the meaning connection. What forces could be responsible for compromising the entire system of justice? Bill Clinton certainly knows. He was the governor of Arkansas who allowed the subversion of his state government by the shadowy forces radiating from the Reagan-Bush White House when ex-CIA director William Casey began using the CIA to illegally conduct secret foreign policy. This serious breach of America's constitutional authority was labeled by the media as Iran-Contra.

1:58:20 This documentary will rewrite this dark period in American history and leave you with a gnawing question. Who or what is running this country? Gun running. Mysterious CIA flights. Contra military training. Guerrilla pilot training. Clandestine air drops. Tons of illegal drugs, millions of dollars in dirty money, covert activity in some third world banana republic, right? Wrong.

1:59:12 Arkansas, America's own banana republic. And if you think it ended with Iran-Contra, let's look at Libya, let's look at Syria, Benghazi has to do with this, gun running, terrorist, air drop. Oh who was it? Who was involved? Oh my, another Clinton. Hillary Clinton except you know, the the payoff was different the payoff was in money to the Clinton Foundation All kinds of shenanigans. Yeah, I would I started watching her perfectly times documentary Which launched March 6, which is what you do right after Super Tuesday, of course perfect and it is it is so convincing and

2:00:02 I've only seen the first hour. It's four hours. Yeah, you I actually think Hillary Clinton started as a very good person and Somewhere I have only seen the first hour. I will identify it Somewhere the power or the money or a combination got to her and she just became evil itself from what I've read on her the Rodham family has Nefarious ties to organized crime. And her adoptive family, the Bushes, I mean this is not my words, this is her adoptive brother speaking when he asked about Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, he said, oh that's my brother. And he was like, oh so what does that make Hillary? Oh my sister. So I'm not giving them a pass. By the way, Hillary truly is white. I mean she comes from white supremacy.

2:01:04 Yes, she could she comes from the the Coventry England here it is Morris Rodham archdeacon of Warwick she literally is from the the white bloodlines that that that are the origins of white supremacy. It doesn't have to go back that far actually. And the Bushes are white by marriage because they married into the Brown family. Exactly. And the Haram family. So I mean those are very big names. So just getting back on track with the Arkansas connection, two things. One, I remember this is pre-internet.

2:01:43 There was a group called goody mob to associated with outcast you know you for me without cash. Yeah, I'm drinking thousand Boy, yeah, they had a song that went Don't hold me to the lyrics exactly, but it's a dirty bill Clinton for me some weight told me Get ten bring him eight no bring him eight something, but he was basically alluding to the fact a drug deal a drug deal with yeah, yeah Including Bill Clinton. Well, it's not like we don't know Bill and his brother were kind of fans of the powder. So going back to the Arkansas connection, my brain does what it does. And I remember this documentary about Little Rock, Arkansas in the mid 90s.

2:02:31 of HBO called Banging and Little Rock. and then began to notice that the violence just was increasing, and drive-by shootings, and random shootings, and random killings, and retaliation killings, and it just went on and on until 1992. We had a record rate of homicides in Little Rock, and it looks we've broken the record in 1993, and it's just gone on and on and on.

2:03:11 In Bill Clinton is hated in Little Rock. Uh-huh. He is hated my uncle Who I should disclose should have disclosed this earlier my uncle Don Don Greg He was national security advisor to Bush senior during Iran Contra there were hearings and he was grilled and he was Exonerated as having nothing to do with it Politically he was damaged and he became ambassador to South Korea But I speak to him often. I've never really talked to him about this If I don't know if he I don't he may not want to talk about I don't know But I do know that he went to he had some business in Little Rock and he was talking to I think there's a some kind of state library

2:04:05 And I just recall him telling the story that all the, particularly women who were there, the name of Bill Clinton just brought like scowls of anger. They hate him. Hate him. I'm gonna go into a little bit of, can I get a little theorem, not a lot, little theorem, I'm about to go a little left with the conspiracy theory. I think we can roll out a bit of theorem in for you, there you go, alright, here we go, we're going to, I don't know if it's gonna be conspiracy theory or conspiracy facts, we'll see, alright. So are you familiar with Mr. George Webb?

2:04:42 Yes, of course. George Webb does great YouTube videos. He's so far out ahead of understanding, in particular, crimes like what happened in Benghazi. I mean, yeah, the guy is fantastic. He has such a high output, it's almost impossible to keep up with him. Yes, of course, I'm familiar with him. And with that said, I dug and dug and dug and dug and dug and couldn't find this clip but I'll never forget it verbatim. This is what he said. He was like, well not verbatim, but I'm going to give you a synopsis of what he said. Arkansas, that is the home of Mena, Arkansas, home of Bill Clinton, but also home of Walmart and Tyson's chicken. Yes.

2:05:30 Okay, this way he tells the story is they used to ship the cocaine in Tyson's inside chicken I've heard this yeah, I've heard this and what validated this for me is if you know anything about rap hip-hop and Slang slang for a kilo of cocaine is a chicken so when he said that my hands are pretty Wow. And that would make about sense, a chicken about two pounds. Oh my goodness. So the hollowed out chicken, they would put it inside there and they would distribute it to the Walmart, which Sam Walton

2:06:14 Sam Walton, his children are what, like six, seven, and eight on the Forbes? Oh yeah, the whole family, richest family in the world, pretty much, yeah. Right, so all this came out of Arkansas, and then you see this special, banging and, I'm like, banging in Little Rock? Why'd have gangs in Little Rock and all these drugs? Well, hello, it's in the chicken. There you have it. And by the way, how cynical is that for a drug That, uh, well let's just say we take it to crack cocaine targeted black people to then put it in chicken. Holy crap that's bad. That's the worst. And even more cynical, how is it that Hillary Clinton could fix her list to call other people super predators? The fourth challenge is to take back our streets from crime, gangs, and drugs.

2:07:04 And we have actually been making progress on this count as a nation because of what local law enforcement officials are doing, because of what citizens and neighborhood patrols are doing, we're making some progress. Much of it is related to the initiative called community policing because we have finally gotten more police officers on the street. That was one of the goals that the President had when he pushed the crime bill that was passed in 1994. He promised 100,000 police. We're moving in that direction, but we can see it already makes a difference because if we have more police interacting with people, having them on the streets, we can prevent crimes. We can prevent petty crimes from turning into something worse. But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs, just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels. They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often

2:08:01 the kinds of kids that are called super predators no conscience no empathy we can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel and the president has asked the FBI to launch a very concerted effort against gangs everywhere. That's one of my favorite clips because it has everything in it. It's got the they need to bring him to heel I love that. Super predators with you know in the old country. And connected to large cartels. Oh yeah! The one of me and my husband run. This is in the old country we say, what you say, be yourself, with your head through the hilt. You are what you accuse others of. J'accuse, macuse in French. This is always the way it is. They're so brazen. It's unreal.

2:08:51 So one of those super predators and this is going to just be foreshadowed into how it comes into the script. I know what's coming now. We know the biggest super predator on the scene. Mr. Sean Jay-Z Carter. He owns Rockefeller Records. Now let me shine a little light on the name Rockefeller. Rockefeller can mean, you know, David Rockefeller, one of the Illuminati, aka white supremacy. Oh wait, let me guess, let me guess, let me guess, let me guess. Something with rock? No, Rockefeller drug laws. Oh my goodness.

2:09:30 which are the statutes dealing with the sale and possession of narcotic drugs in New York state penal law. The law was named after Nelson Rockefeller, who was the state governor at the time the law was adopted. Rockefeller had previously backed drug rehabilitation, job training, and housing strategies, have seen drugs as a social problem rather than a criminal one, but did not, but did it about face during a period of mounting national anxiety about drug use and crime. Rockefeller, a staunch supporter of the bill containing the law, had presidential ambitions and so wanted to raise his national posture by being tough on crime. And now Mr. Jay-Z names his record label after Rockefeller. And I find it weird that the Rockefeller family never made him change the name of his record label.

2:10:23 Yeah. And I even find it more weird that Mr. Super Predator himself, Jay-Z, Boulle, extraordinaire and his wife show support for Hillary Clinton in 2016. Eight years ago, I was so inspired to know that my nephew, a young black child, could grow up knowing his dreams could be realized by witnessing a black president in office. And now we have the opportunity to create more change. I want my daughter to grow up seeing a woman lead our country.

2:11:14 And know that her possibilities are limitless. We have to think about the future of our daughters, our sons, and vote for someone who cares for them as much as we do. And that is why I'm with her. And this other guy, I don't will towards him, but his conversation is divisive and that's not an evolved soul to me. So he cannot be my president. He cannot be our president. Once you divide us, you weaken us. We're stronger together. Once you divide us, you weaken us. We are stronger together. And without further ado, I would like to introduce to you the next president of the United States, Hillary Clinton. Yes, Miss Butter Biscuit Beyonce, right there front and center with JLZ.

2:12:18 What a friggin joke. You know, this is a psychological thing and this came up on the Rogan show about the Google guys. You know people who are abused often go on to abuse others. Abused children often go on to abuse children. Abused children abuse children and it perpetuates and I think this is a clear example of this psychological condition. I have no other explanation for it. I really don't. I mean, why else would you be like that? Would you do that? How is it that she can fix her mouth to call people super predators and the very poster book? I mean, poster child for being a super predator. You have him campaign for you. Yeah, well, I don't I don't understand. Oh, it's a birds of a feather flock together.

2:13:13 It blows my mind. This is okay. I want everyone to hear me now believe me later you must tweet this episode in relation to Hillary Clinton's documentary before you watch the documentary listen to this show tell you tell people that because it puts a lot of context into into what's going on. If you are voting in a Democratic primary, by the way there's also you know when it comes down to elections there are also independent parties and not just two you can choose from. I always choose for the guy who wants to build a dome around something and give flamethrowers to teachers. But bear in mind

2:13:59 the history of what appears to be the true frontrunners, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders and what you've heard today. And propagate that formula, let people know about it. And I'm just as guilty of it, I forget. I've been looking at Joe Biden for weeks now on this, just looking at how senile he is, and I completely forget too. Like, oh man, he wrote the bill! It wasn't just, you know how he's standing up there and going, I was a part of that! And by the way, when he says, I was a part of the assault weapon band. Yeah, the assault weapon band actually was one of the first title in the actual 1994 crime bill. So it wasn't a separate entity. It's because he wrote the whole thing and you can't just let the man take credit for one part and not the other part. And in closing, what I find just, what baffles me is he has a son who allegedly

2:14:55 struggles with addiction. Oh, it's not alleged. He's been arrested for it. He was kicked out of the military for it. So where's the compassion? This thing can mean drugs is not something that you, they always set it up and I'm gonna close on this. We heard in the Godfather, what'd they say? You can sell drugs, as long as you leave it down there with the niggers. And I don't use that word very often on this show. I don't think I ever have, but just to show you the potency of that idea. Yeah, bring it in, leave it down there with the blacks, quote unquote the blacks, and let it kill them, but it always seeps out.

2:15:35 And it comes to hit them close to home. And there's no compassion. And like I said, the only solution is we have to police ourselves. We have to have police come from the community. and that's it. And pay attention to who you're voting for, that does matter. And I'm talking local, real true politics is local. Look at what's going on your city council, look at who your local representatives are, who are your representatives in Congress and the Senate. These are the people you need to hound. The figureheads Yeah, there's reasons for them, there's important reasons for them, but look at your local situation, that's where you can change the most. And please consider supporting the work that is being done here on MoFacts with Adam Curry. You can find our episodes, more information at MoFacts.com and we have a direct link to our donation page at MoFundMe.com where we be spitting the truth once a week.

2:16:32 And while you're paying attention to those candidates also pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. Yo this nigga name D-Ruggs, my mom dates him. Sweet I gotta hate him, if I could I would break him. When he come around I brain sizzle like a steak him.

2:15:35 And it comes to hit them close to home. And there's no compassion. And like I said, the only solution is we have to police ourselves. We have to have police come from the community. and that's it. And pay attention to who you're voting for, that does matter. And I'm talking local, real true politics is local. Look at what's going on your city council, look at who your local representatives are, who are your representatives in Congress and the Senate. These are the people you need to hound. The figureheads Yeah, there's reasons for them, there's important reasons for them, but look at your local situation, that's where you can change the most. And please consider supporting the work that is being done here on MoFacts with Adam Curry. You can find our episodes, more information at MoFacts.com and we have a direct link to our donation page at MoFundMe.com where we be spitting the truth once a week.

2:16:32 And while you're paying attention to those candidates also pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. Yo this nigga name D-Ruggs, my mom dates him. Sweet I gotta hate him, if I could I would break him. When he come around I brain sizzle like a steak him.

2:17:10 Damn, can't Jakes take em? She neglected him Runnin' around with this punk nigga recklessly Had her in the tunnel, guess she was a ecstasy For his love, very possessive, beat OD'd excessively Got some boyfriend, or a toy friend, see? Let me specify Her last man took the money, left the guy Desert dry, gave it to D-Rug, she kept a high When he come around, see her facial Guess who was afraid when she sniffed it I'm the monster in your dreams

2:18:07 Boom, ba-la-la, you will feel Yo, yo, yo, with the deals done It's 91, while I'm still strong On this nigga D-Rocks, his game tight Every night in the room, the screw him Yeah, she do him, but my man unknown School me too, told me he a mad ho He can get me mad though, what you mean? Yo it's more than just your mother, he got other partners He a foreigner though, the cops don't like him Illegal alien, can't even say his name on the phone But yo get money with him, then leave him alone Or you'll be inside the new cuffs Plus a news rush, told me more about him than he introduced us Took me to the block where everybody get him off Show me his clientele, ever since hit it off He was right, these rugs got dump freaks Men and women love him, got me tanking in one fit

2:18:57 I'm your daddy, I'm that nigga in the alley I'm your doctor when in need I'm your hoe, I'm your weed, you know me Young man boy, Dickinson Yo, money excite me But niggas on my block, they got shysty Cause I'm with D-Rugs, they don't like me Tried to snipe me, right before the damn feds had indicted me You know my mother, Anastazwad Too much of D-Rugs left the hospital lies We both was arrested, stars of the block I bought cardiac, me by the cops But for my mother, there was nothing but love But that's what we get

2:20:05 Fuckin' a trust, huh? I'm your mama, I'm your daddy I'm that nigga in the alley I'm your doctor when in need I'm your coke, I'm your weed You know me, I'm your young maid boy Thick and thin, I'm the monster in your dreams For my love, you will feed I'm your mama, daddy, I'm that nigga in the alley I'm your dog when in need I'm your weed, you know me I'm your domain boy, thick and thin I'm the mouse in your dream love you and me You push your man