Wednesday, 3 February 2021

58: Prop Joe

A deep dive into the Biden administration’s confidence game, the Obama shadow presidency, and the architectural secrets of the Washington Monument.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 3h 17m listen | 35 chapters
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About this episode

Joe Biden officially enters the presidency with 306 electoral votes, but his pivot toward conservative bipartisanship suggests the arrival of a political confidence man. The administration faces immediate scrutiny as leaked audio from a December 10 meeting reveals Biden’s thin-skinned response to civil rights leaders regarding the appointments of Tom Vilsack and Rahm Emanuel. Meanwhile, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez uses Instagram Live to frame the January 6 Capitol riot through a lens of personal trauma, a move critics argue is designed to insulate the new administration from standard political opposition.

Vice President Kamala Harris navigates a complex web of cultural identity, from cooking videos with Mindy Kaling to a public certification of her heritage by Miami rapper Uncle Luke. Research popularized by Dinesh D’Souza points to her ancestral links to Jamaican slave owner Hamilton Brown, while her mother’s Brahmin caste background in India complicates her public persona. Behind the scenes, the influence of the Obama wing remains potent, with Valerie Jarrett appearing at White House strategy sessions and George Soros signaling dissatisfaction with past banking interventions. These power dynamics unfold against a backdrop of demographic shifts, as U.S. Census data projects the white population will decline to 41 percent by 2060, a trend Madison Avenue increasingly mirrors through multicultural advertising.

Historical parallels emerge as the National Museum of African American History and Culture incorporates Egyptian architectural angles matching the pyramids of Giza. The episode draws a striking comparison between the Obama family and the revolutionary Pharaoh Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti, suggesting a modern shift toward a new political monotheism. Adam Curry concludes the session by honoring executive producers like Andrew Watson through the Value for Value model, bypassing traditional media gatekeepers.


CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

Podcast Introduction, AOC Instagram Claims, Social Media Toxicity

Adam Curry and his co-host open episode 58 of Mo Facts, discussing the "toxic" nature of current social media and cable news. The conversation highlights Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's recent Instagram Live appearance regarding the January 6 Capitol riot. The hosts analyze her claims of post-traumatic stress and her disclosure of being a survivor of sexual assault, suggesting the narrative is being used to frame political events in a way that prevents criticism.

adam curry· northern virginia· alexandria ocasio-cortez· january 6· post-traumatic stress disorder

00:00 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for February 2nd, 2021. It's episode number 58, Belly Dancing Your Way Through Your Earbuds, everybody. Adam Curry here in Austin, Texas, and my friend on the other end somewhere in Northern Virginia. It is Mo Facts.

00:44 How you doing Adam? I'm good man. Is the vocals that Ofra Haza who sings that do you know? I'm not sure that's a True Hurts song Dictus and it was produced by Dr. Dre I believe. Yeah that's nice. If I'm not mistaken. I just think that's an Israeli singer I think. I may be wrong. And why do I even know these things? Stuff just comes back 30 years later. Oh, I know her. I remember her from the opera. Yeah, exactly. Hey Moe, it's been about two weeks. How you doing? I'm doing good. How about yourself, Adam? Yeah, doing real good. Busy, you know, with saving podcasting, stuff like that. Podcasting 2.0. And just trying to keep warm. For us Texans, it's kind of chilly. You know, we have our 70 degree days, but, you know, it goes down to, wow, like 37 at night. This is too cold for us here. You got snow on your shoes. 37? I know, I know. You got snow on the ground, right?

01:40 Let me give my little violin for you. Very little violin. Yeah, we got snow, we got about four to six inches outside. It's cold. It's like in the 30s in the middle of the day. Your 37 low is, I mean, the high sounds good to me. Yeah. So I know that you voluntarily had stopped social media. I don't know if you've been on recently, or even if you just turned on cable news, I just want to report from the front lines Moe, stuff is getting pretty toxic. I mean there's real poison being concocted, real evil spells. I just flipped it. It's like I went to lunch and Tina said, I'm gonna go to lunch, I'm gonna go to Burger King and I sit in the car and listen to crap because I have the Sirius XM in the car. I'm just gonna listen to it while I'm eating crap, I want to listen to crap, I just want to have the full American experience. It was bad brother.

02:38 It's just horrible, horrible, horrible poison. The machine is on 100 right now. It is. And that's why when I left I could feel it. I was like, yeah, they're about to ratchet it up. And this AOC thing? You follow that? No, this is news to me. You have to enlighten me on this one. She did an Instagram and she's talking, you know, she was of course very afraid for her life on January 6th and she thought that Ted Cruz was gonna... But wait, but wait, but wait, but wait. Now she adds to that.

03:15 I'm paraphrasing. It triggered post-traumatic stress in me because I was sexually assaulted. So now you have this fantastic setup where, you know, so what happened on January 6th is now being equated to sexual assault and, you know, she had a little sniff and a tear and you can't say anything about it because that's immediately, you know, it's like, it's like a, it's like locked. You can't move left, you can't move right and they're just throwing this in everyone's face man. It's poison. That's exactly what it is and that's why we do what we do. We pay attention to everything so you can figure out what's really going on and we do a deep dive analysis.

03:59 What you do over at No Agenda helps me and hopefully show is helpful to people as well to be an anecdote to the poison. We got people who went from listening to Mo Fax to No Agenda to Rogan. They're doing it in reverse now. I'm not kidding. You're like a springboard for people, Mo. It's fantastic. I appreciate that. I was glad we could help in the letters. You can see the sincerity of people saying how we're trying to help. So that's all. That's why I always come with the bag and I got a full one today. So all right, then why don't we get to spinning the wheel of topics? Let's find out what we're going to talk about on today's Mo Facts with Adam Curry. We're at episode number 58. Where the wheel stops, nobody knows except for Mo, of course. The topic for episode 58 is... Let's get something straight. You shouldn't be disappointed.

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Joe Biden Election Certification, Unity Rhetoric, Bipartisanship

The discussion shifts to the official certification of Joe Biden's presidential victory with 306 electoral votes. Biden's victory speech emphasizing unity and healing is contrasted with his criticisms of Donald Trump's alleged abuse of power. The hosts characterize Biden as a "confidence man" who is pivoting from campaign rhetoric toward a more conservative, bipartisan stance now that he holds the title of President.

joe biden· electoral college· donald trump· unity· bipartisanship

04:48 Oh wait, this is the the groups coming to get what Joe promised them? Yeah Exactly. They got exactly what he promised. Yeah, nothing. Zero. I promised you shouldn't be disappointed. Yeah, he told the exact truth So we're gonna go through that we're gonna go through some character profiles like we did like to do over here and Now, Joe Biden's victory in last month's US presidential election is now official. States across the nation have been confirming their electoral college votes.

05:34 Mr Biden sealed his win with 306 votes to incumbent Donald Trump's 232. Trump and some of his most ardent supporters still refused to acknowledge defeat. But after the Electoral College vote, several senior Republicans publicly urged their party to accept the election results. In a speech on Monday evening, Mr Biden offered his strongest criticism yet of President Trump, accusing him of an abuse of power. But in the end, Biden said democracy prevailed. We the people voted. Faith in our institutions held. The integrity of our elections remains intact. And now it's time to turn the page, as we've done throughout our history. To unite. To heal. As I said in this campaign, I will be president for all Americans. I'll work just as hard for those of you who didn't vote for me as I will for those who did.

06:32 Yeah, unity man. It's the unity that is in the air. That's what I must be feeling So I'm gonna start here with one thing. He said about the strongest criticism yet. That's what the um reporter from Euronews said mm-hmm We're talking about orange man bad did not see cheeto white supremacist woman abuser that's your strongest criticism is abuse of power Yeah, it's all he had No, the reason why I say that is that goes to show he's starting to back off now. All the rhetoric is gone now and it's about bipartisanship. Well, but that's Joe. That's not what's actually taking place. Well, Joe is, that's why we got to get into who Joe is today. President Joe. Oh, and before we go any further, Moe, I feel like a douche.

07:25 My friend, my friend, it's only 26 days left so please allow me to wish you a very happy Black History Month. It's a very happy allegedly black history month. People of Color History Month. I'm sorry Mo, I feel bad I didn't congratulate you with the shortest month of the year. Well, over here at the MoFact show with Adam Curry, every month is Black History Month. So we don't have to acknowledge that as any specialty. But, back to what I'm saying, it's Bipartisanship, and as you said, that's Joe. And as you say, President Joe, I would, we're gonna see if that is the correct title.

08:07 Throughout the show as well. I Gotta tell you I'll call whoever has the title. I'll call him president no matter what I think of it That's hard for me not to do that. No, no he hold yet fair. He holds the position the title of president Yes, of course. We're gonna talk about who holds the position In this show there's a difference. Okay, I got you Touche touche we have to give him the title. Yes, sir, but We all see, we're soon to see what's going to be going on here. We know he's barely alive, of course, that's the fun of him. That's what makes President Joe great. Not even that, because Joe is full of life, because as you heard in the opening clip, when he feels like he doesn't owe you anything, he gets his spunk up.

08:58 Yes, so he's ready to will and deal. Joe's a confidence man. And confidence con man is short for confidence man. That's right. He gives everybody confidence and we're going to get into that a little later. But what we got to do is just get for he's got the he's elected now. He has the title of president. You're right. President Joe Biden and Madam President Kamala Harris. Madam Vice President. Come on. Don't blow it yet. Oh yes, that's right. Wait, no, that's not the spell. Kamala Harris, no, excuse me, Kamala. Now I heard her explain how to say her name. Now you're messed up. Now you can't do it right anymore. No, it's Kamala. That's how she says she wants her name to be said. So like as you said about the title, I have to say it even though the lady who swore in said it wrong, so to my aura, but it's not here or there. Oh well. All right, so Kamala makes history.

09:57 What you do have though is a historic vice president-elect in Kamala Harris and her victory represents a handful of firsts. The first woman, the first black woman, the first Indian American woman, the first daughter of immigrants to be sworn in as vice president of the United States. She talked about of course she's a stepmom being referred to as mama-la by her step daughters. You know someone who was a presidential candidate too. Let's not forget that. She was a presidential candidate. And she ran and has executive skill running a big thing and what will be really really interesting is Joe Biden who has had the job of and was deputized to do very specific things by Barack Obama knows the power of having an effective vice president who can execute and what will he ask Kamala Harris to oversee and be in charge of? Were you sitting in my 60 Minutes interview? That's exactly what I have.

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Kamala Harris Vice Presidency, Political Roles, Delaware Corporate Ties

The hosts examine Kamala Harris's historic role as the first female, Black, and Indian American Vice President. They compare her lack of a specific initial policy initiative to the roles held by previous Vice Presidents like Joe Biden and Mike Pence. The conversation touches on Biden's deep ties to Delaware's corporate environment and suggests Harris may act as a "lightning rod" or "troublemaker" while Biden operates in the background.

kamala harris· vice president· barack obama· mike pence· delaware

08:58 Yes, so he's ready to will and deal. Joe's a confidence man. And confidence con man is short for confidence man. That's right. He gives everybody confidence and we're going to get into that a little later. But what we got to do is just get for he's got the he's elected now. He has the title of president. You're right. President Joe Biden and Madam President Kamala Harris. Madam Vice President. Come on. Don't blow it yet. Oh yes, that's right. Wait, no, that's not the spell. Kamala Harris, no, excuse me, Kamala. Now I heard her explain how to say her name. Now you're messed up. Now you can't do it right anymore. No, it's Kamala. That's how she says she wants her name to be said. So like as you said about the title, I have to say it even though the lady who swore in said it wrong, so to my aura, but it's not here or there. Oh well. All right, so Kamala makes history.

09:57 What you do have though is a historic vice president-elect in Kamala Harris and her victory represents a handful of firsts. The first woman, the first black woman, the first Indian American woman, the first daughter of immigrants to be sworn in as vice president of the United States. She talked about of course she's a stepmom being referred to as mama-la by her step daughters. You know someone who was a presidential candidate too. Let's not forget that. She was a presidential candidate. And she ran and has executive skill running a big thing and what will be really really interesting is Joe Biden who has had the job of and was deputized to do very specific things by Barack Obama knows the power of having an effective vice president who can execute and what will he ask Kamala Harris to oversee and be in charge of? Were you sitting in my 60 Minutes interview? That's exactly what I have.

10:53 But that's exactly what I asked her and she didn't answer because you have Mike Pence in charge of the coronavirus task force. You had Joe Biden in charge of the economic recovery and a lot of the relations with those up on Capitol Hill. And so I asked Senator Harris, so what's your job going to be? Well, you know what her job is? She's shadowing. Yeah. Notice that she didn't have a job. Normally a vice president comes in with an initiative to say, I'm going to attack this or I'm going to attack that. Right. Nah, I'm too busy doing other stuff. She's out there vilifying representatives in different states and she's like every state she's going she's stirring up crap. She's a troublemaker, professional troublemaker I think. A lightning rod. Yeah, lightning rod. She's black by the way, just so you know, she's black. Allegedly.

11:49 We have Joe Biden, he's going to be willing and dealing in the background, President Joe. I have another name I'll reveal for him later because if we call Trump 45 savage then we can call Joe other names as well If we're gonna be fair I'm just saying we have to so if he's 45 savage I have another name for confidence Confidence man Joe Biden. Okay, but he's gonna be he's gonna that's what he's done for the last 40 years Is this is this working in the background? Cut the deal, shake the hands, be whoever you want to be to whoever's looking at him. He's similar in the same way as Trump. As whoever's looking at him, he can see, okay, for the conservative

12:37 Democratic voter, he brought them in. And then for the people that felt that he was sympathetic towards black people, he brought them in. So he instills confidence. So I'm not calling that him just out of a disparaging meaning, that is actually his role, is to come in and smooth things over, cut the deals, go to Ukraine, whatever. Well, Delaware being the state where every corporation is incorporated, President Joe Biden knows a lot about deals and backroom stuff. Right. So his state. Yeah. So now the question, notice Gail throughout these clips, I have two from CBS News, and Gail is going to make sure Kamala gets all of her credit.

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

Kamala Harris Cultural Identity, Mindy Kaling Cooking Video, Auntie Terminology

A 2019 YouTube video featuring Kamala Harris and Mindy Kaling cooking Indian food serves as a case study for Harris's "chameleon-like" ability to navigate different cultural identities. The hosts analyze Harris's request not to be called "Auntie," exploring the different connotations of the term in Indian and Black American cultures. They suggest this linguistic navigation is a calculated effort to manage her public image across diverse demographics.

kamala harris· mindy kaling· south indian· auntie· cultural identity

13:30 She's gonna make sure of it. And you heard previously she said, oh, don't forget she was a presidential candidate, which I think being vice president trumps that, but I don't know. I'm not sure how that works in the hierarchy. But she's gonna do this over and over again. But now we gotta go back to a throwback clip from show 18, which was, I don't know. I had it written down somewhere, but anyway. No, she wrote to Zero. Right. And this is with Kamala Harris and Mindy Kaling and they're cooking. Oh yeah, I remember this one.

14:10 Yes, what is she cooking? Is it respectful to call? I should be calling you Senator Harris. No, you should not. That's not on my birth certificate. Okay. Call me. Yes, please. Okay, because the Indian in me, I feel like my parents, my dad will watch this. Just don't call me auntie. Okay. I won't call you auntie. They'll be like, how could you call her by her first name? She's worked so hard. OK, so what we're going to cook today is an Indian recipe. Yes. Because you are Indian. Yes. OK, and I don't know that everybody knows that. But I find that wherever I go and I see Indian people at the supermarket, on the street, everyone's like, you know Kamala Harris is Indian, right? It's like our thing we're so excited about, to have you running for president. Yeah.

14:52 So we're both Indian, but actually we're both South Indian. You look like the entire one half of my family. Yes, yes. The reason why I pulled... Great name. The reason why I pulled this clip, and that's a great alley, so I'mma oop it on home, is she is a chameleon. She can be black, whoever she wants to be similar to Joe Biden. He could appear to be center-left, whoever is looking at him, or center-right. So whoever the other side is looking at him. Isn't that just a fact of the lens that is portraying the person? I mean it's, because we never see these people close up. We see a narrative picture, a narrative voice, a narrative video.

15:42 It's a very tailored narrative that they paint. They cast these spells. I mean, you can't help but believe it, you know, because listen to Joe. He was speaking very liberally during the campaign, but now he comes back more conservative. I only have one question. Yes. And neither of you or I can answer this. If you are Indian and you're black, Because that's what she says. She says, I'm black and I'm Indian. Well then, what is brown? You know what I'm saying? It's like, she's clearly brown. Brown is colored. I always go back to South Africa and how they have the three races of people. Brown nowadays is, I'm not white but I'm not black.

16:37 Right, okay. It's the safe space. It's like, I don't want the oppression of black people, but I want the guilt of the white people. So I'm gonna hang out here. I'm gonna hang in the middle here. I'm good. I'm good everybody. If it's brown, let it hang around. Okay, all right, all right. But that's the spell, man. That's the spell. Like she can be brown one day and she'd be Indian a day and then black and then she's cooking masala and I'm Indian. Yeah, I'm Indian. And we just go, okay, sure. It's like, that's the spell. That's a great spell. That's exactly why I pulled this clip again because while I was going through the clips and I heard this, but I heard it a different way. And that's why we go back to these throwback clips. She made a very,

17:22 Put emphasis on don't call me auntie. Yeah now auntie can mean two different things Whether you're talking black auntie or Indian auntie Okay, so she we need to know So Kamala is aware of she's gonna try to call me auntie on the Indian level, but when she says it, it's gonna be received as a black woman being called auntie and there's a difference. Yes, this is why she didn't want her to say that because it would screw up everybody. Yes, yes, yes, she did do that. Okay, so I have the definitions. Indian, a Desi South Indian woman close to the family.

18:11 Which kinda in this way, black people used to do this, call somebody, my grandmother, everybody called her Aunt Helen. Right? I mean, which, her Helen wasn't even her name, and Aunt wasn't even in a relation. Right. So, I mean, you had Aunt Esther, that kind of, I mean, cause it just sticks that way. But, um, Indian, that's the way it seemed. Now, auntie in the black way is different, and there was a big to-do about Avery DuVernay people calling her and Oprah and them auntie. There's an Essence article that says to call respected black women auntie or not, that is the question. Because it has another kind of negative connotation to black women.

18:57 It's usually the women that were strolling to the pole. The single or childless or put professional first lends to older woman. That's why they don't want to be called that. That's also what Kamala is though. Exactly! She is, she is both, she is, she's Chimera. Kamala Chimera. She's two heads! She is! Yes! Wow, that's amazing! She can be an auntie and an auntie. She's good. She is an auntie! She's a robot. Wow!

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

Kamala Harris and Uncle Luke, Fried Chicken Certification, Image Consulting

The hosts revisit an interaction between Kamala Harris and Miami rapper Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell). They discuss an article Campbell wrote criticizing Harris's record on prison reform and his subsequent "certification" of her Blackness after they shared a meal of fried chicken. The analysis focuses on Harris's perceived disdain during the interview and her history as an attractive, ambitious politician in California.

uncle luke· luther campbell· miami new times· prison reform· howard university

19:35 Yeah, so when I heard this again, I was like, why did she say that? I mean, now I'm listening to a different lens. I'm like, why did she tell her doctor to call me auntie? That's a great catch. Because the more you know, wow. So I just wanted to point that out of these dual roles she's playing. Yeah, that's phenomenal, really. What casting. That's great casting. Yeah, it crosses spectrums. And she represents the auntie, like I Like I said, the strollers, well, I'll start to call them now the people that stroll to the pole. Now, this is her addressing the Indian side and this is actually from her YouTube channel, that video with Mindy. Now she has another video on her YouTube channel, which we also played on Show 18, but I want to look at it as a different way as well. And this is her talking to Uncle Luke.

20:27 If you're not in the game and you're just sitting on the sideline, you really don't understand the difference, the nuances and the struggles of trying to do the right thing for our people. When I wrote the article about you, you know, and I just outlined everything that every black man in the barbershop, black woman we're talking about in the conversations. And I always go back to it because basically everything that everybody was saying about you, whether she's black enough, does she like black men? She's putting black people in jail. You know, the common things that was actually said, but at the same time, I write that.

21:09 and I didn't have a conversation with you. When we had the conversation, and we talked about it, we talked about the different things, it was almost, and after the conversation, I feel like I was actually certifying you, because we were talking about fried chicken and talking about all these different things. talking about fried chicken certified certified seal of approval well let me fill in the people that don't know what's going on between her and Uncle Luke. Uncle Luke wrote an article in the Miami News Times New New Times and he was speaking about, this is from an article, Kamala Harris will have trouble persuading black voters to make her president in 2020. First, the US Senator from California must explain why Donald Trump has a better prison reform record than she had as a Golden State Attorney General.

22:00 That's something he wrote. So they made him fix it. As they always do. You're gonna sit down with her and talk. Until I talked and had some fried chicken with you, I didn't realize how black you are, Kamala. It's auntie. Auntie, I'm sorry. I didn't know, auntie. That's so racist though. It's so stereotypical racist. Am I blind? Am I seeing this? Hello? That's crazy. It's amazing they can play a caricature to be accepted. I mean, that's like 1980s, late 80s sitcom level script. Right. I sat down and had you. You can't even do that anymore.

22:44 Right, um, so if we can, if you could just play like the first 10-15 seconds of that clip, I want you to listen to her disdain for him and having to even talk to him, but she had to be there. If you're not in the game, and you're just sitting on the sideline, you really don't understand the difference, the nuances, and the struggles of trying to do the right thing. When I wrote the article about you. She's, you know, I'm not sure exactly what it is, because Doesn't work on me. I can do it. I hear but it's like she has a certain feminine power that I think a certain certainly a little older guy falls for. Don't get it twisted. Kamala was that girl.

23:36 Mean like not say like disparaging. I'm somehow when she was at Howard and Around Willie Brown Willie Brown stuff we know yeah, no I'm not saying that as a not to bring that up I'm just saying she was attractive enough to get in his sphere. Yeah, so don't don't get it twisted I mean, I'll give credit where credit's due I think politics and just being in like that hard The hard career maybe harden her looks a little bit. I mean, we're just talking about it from the television production standpoint. Yeah, the image, the image consulted standpoint, like the suits and the, you know, she has to be taken seriously so she can't really glam up, but she's, she's an attractive woman. So she definitely could, but she wasn't having it, but she's like, I have to go talk to Luke because he's in Florida. I mean, in Miami. Needs that state, needs the city. That's a very blue dot in a red state. So, yeah.

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Karen Hunter Show, Jamaican Heritage, Slave Ship Narratives

An excerpt from the Karen Hunter Show features a discussion on Kamala Harris's Jamaican and Indian heritage. The hosts critique the "code-switching" and grammatical shifts used by media figures to appeal to Black audiences. The segment includes a controversial claim by a guest regarding the shared origins of enslaved Africans in Jamaica and South Carolina, which the hosts mock as historically simplistic.

karen hunter· jamaica· bob marley· south carolina· code switching

24:36 So we have that's her talking to Luke. So you heard the difference the the comparison between how she talked to Mindy and how she talked to Luke. Yeah. Now we're gonna go back to another clip from show 46 and this was Kamala Kanye and King. That's a mouthful. And this is from the Karen Hunter show and about her so-called blackness. Apparently, her mother's Indian, her father is Jamaican, so therefore she's not a black American to many people, but she black to me. Can't get a cab. Well, nobody's taking a cab anymore. The cops can't tell the difference. I'm sorry, I mean, I like listening to intonation and stuff. It doesn't matter who it's saying, who's saying it. But when I, she just switches into code and goes, she black to me. Like, what is that?

25:29 I don't know. Apparently you are. You asked the question, can I answer that question? Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. What that is, is she knows who she's communicating to, so she says I have to say it in a way where they know I'm being honest and my honest way of speaking is to drop verbs. Okay, well so here's what I don't understand. I'm probably one of the few white people who listens to what's Harris that's her name Harris? No, no Karen Hunter. Oh Karen Hunter. I catch your show too. It's a black audience.

26:07 So, I don't know, it just seems like, I don't know, what are you talking about? It just feels weird. It's lowered expectations. Okay. I have to speak in, I'm certifying her blackness. Yeah. So I have to put, you're saying more sauce on the blackness. I understand. When I'm doing the certification. Yeah, but are you talking to your audience or are you fake talking to your audience the rest of the time? You know what I'm saying? I said, just, it's the whole thing is instant. As a broadcaster, it's weird. That's all. Apparently, her mother's Indian. Her father is Jamaican. So therefore, she's not a black American to many people, but she black to me can't get a cab. Well, I don't even nobody's taking a cab and you can't get a cab. Let me just put that out there. Police officers can't tell whether or not your parents were formerly or your ancestors formerly enslaved. They can't tell. Correct. For the record, Jamaica was not a land of free black people. Right. I just want to be

27:01 I'm not a slave. The island of Jamaica was originally populated by indigenous people who were not Africans. The Africans who arrived in Jamaica from which descended folks like Bob Marley, my mother, you know, these are people who were enslaved Africans who were often on the same ship as those enslaved Africans who landed in South Carolina. They just happened to be off at an earlier stop. Oh, you're saying that the ship from Africa dropped those Africans off different places? And then from the islands to South Carolina, where most of us, wow, Laree, man. Man. So then same people, same people just dropped off? Okay. Wow. Same people. The exact same guy. How come we didn't get Bob Marley? How come we didn't get him over here? Why did Jamaica get him? They just act like they had ships like all aboard. Next stop, Jamaica.

28:00 Got the 720 times Alabama. It's like, what? That is hilarious. And I'd like just to comment on the, well, the cops can't tell. Yeah, the cops can tell. They don't kill black women, yo. They kill black men. Well, no. They kill black men. They'll tell by her badge. She's like, it's all good, fellas. Same team. Same team, fellas. Badge. Yeah, so Lori Daniels, She's from Jamaican descent so she has a dog in this fight as well. Yeah I'm just going to show people that the the hula hoop mean the The hoops people the mental gymnastics I think is what we're talking here Yeah, right and then they even their facts are wrong their means are outdated so she can't even catch a cat like who?

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Dinesh D'Souza Research, Hamilton Brown, Jamaican Slave Ownership

The hosts discuss research popularized by Dinesh D'Souza regarding Kamala Harris's ancestry. The claim suggests Harris is a descendant of Hamilton Brown, a prominent slave owner in Jamaica. They also note her mother's background in the high-ranking Brahmin caste in India. The segment highlights the tension between these historical facts and Harris's public political persona.

dinesh d'souza· hamilton brown· jamaica· snopes· brahmin caste

28:54 anymore if she'd said well uber cancels on her okay then my mind have gotten the joke yeah you're right right but it's outdated yeah and it's incorrect because flagrant to podcast well they have some interesting information about Kamala's lineage right no way okay well Dinesh So lose it. What is it? This is a finesse de Souza. Yeah Who Akash has coined as the Indian Candace Owens? Yeah, okay So we have to clarify it he had a fire argument right? Oh, he traced the lineage of

29:35 of Kamala's family, her heritage. So she's both Jamaican and Indian. Yes. Okay. He traced the Jamaican legacy obviously back to Jamaica, but specifically she's a descendant of this dude named Hamilton Brown, who is the largest slave owner in all of Jamaica. Apparently has a town named after him in Jamaica. Oh shit. Wow. He got a statue. I take that bitch down. Let's do it. I'm just saying, this is very interesting. And then, wait a minute, it doesn't stop there. I saw another thing. I saw another thing real quick. And then her mother's side, they're Brahmins. Oh yeah, Brahmin is the highest caste in the nation. And for thousands of years, Akash, they exploited millions of low caste untouchables, did they not? They did. Trump thinks that this isn't going to work for his audience.

30:28 I think this is gonna steal the votes. I think some people are gonna be like, yeah, you talk about it. This bitch beast. So just, no, that just goes to show you that they knew this article was out here and her father wrote the article. You know what I'm saying? Detailing his lineage, but of course Snopes, Snopes has it still is unproven. But even though her father wrote that he's, from the lineage of this, uh... Yes, and he was bitching about her some more later on, I think. Yeah, because she was playing a caricature. Because her smoking weed comments, he's like, you're making us look, you're saying as Jamaicans, just apothecaries. Right, right, right. So, notice when you make a negative, uh, live up to a negative stereotype or try to play into a negative stereotype, other groups push back against it.

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Valerie Jarrett Presence, Obama Wing Influence, Michelle Obama Stand-in

The discussion explores the influence of the "Obama wing" of the Democratic Party on the Biden administration. The hosts note the presence of Valerie Jarrett at a recent White House meeting, suggesting she remains a key handler. They speculate that Kamala Harris is a "stand-in" for Michelle Obama and discuss a theory from former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne regarding an FBI sting involving Hillary Clinton.

valerie jarrett· barack obama· nancy pelosi· patrick byrne· hillary clinton

31:25 But as you seen with Karen Hunter, oh She mangles the grammar of the Senate Right to ingratiate herself to her supposed audience. Which is very, like I said, very lower expectations which irks me to no end. But now we gotta get back to the CBS News and back to Gayle King and talk about what Kamala will be doing. What will she, what role will she take on? And there was this concern and still is among Republicans that Joe Biden is the Trojan horse. That Kamala Harris, as someone who has backed Medicare for All, who has backed a Green New Deal, who backs the federal legalization of marijuana, would push for those things while inside the White House. And that's this tension. She, I think, is going to be now, and this is the question, whether she will surpass Nancy Pelosi as the most powerful woman in Washington.

32:24 Everyone's like, whoa. I mean, Bill Obama and Harris surpass Nancy Pelosi as the most powerful woman in Washington. There's a very well-known saying on Capitol Hill, and I will clean it up for television. If you don't have the votes, you don't have blank. OK? You've got to have the votes. What is Senator Harris's reputation on Capitol Hill? Well, she's only been there for three and a half years, and she's sort of been pegged as someone with higher ambition from the moment that she got there. And so she's got that. She's got it. She can. And so she was placed on a number of very important committees from the very start because they saw that potential very reminiscent of what happened with a young Senator Barack Obama when he first came to Congress. So she wasn't just on the Judiciary Committee. She was placed on the Intelligence Committee and the Homeland Security Committee and the Budget Committee.

33:09 to show that she had not just domestic experience but foreign policy experience as well. So she is someone who has always been seen as looking ahead to the next step. Yeah, definitely. She's always been looking ahead to the next step for sure. So are the Democrats, and when I say Democrats, I'm talking about the Obama wing of the Democrats, not the Clinton wing. They're four years ahead of schedule, I believe. I think they thought Hillary was gonna win, be in there for eight years, and then they had Kamala. Oh Jesus Christ. Now that is not the story that I heard. The story that Patrick Byrne tells the ex-Overstock CEO who claims, and there's no reason to really doubt him, that he was part of an FBI sting to bribe Hillary Clinton, which was then

34:06 You know, they didn't execute on the sting according to his... They did it, but they didn't do anything with it according to his story because it was Obama who wanted the goods on Hillary to control her for eight years and then, and you're right, so that would be four years from now, then it would be Michelle who would come in. That's the story that he told. Whether that's realistic or not, I don't know. That's the point I'm making. They're four years ahead of schedule. Basically, Kamala is standing in for Michelle right now. I said they had to stand in for Michelle. I think you could pick it up from there. Oh, that's even better. You're right. They can just... Yeah, Michelle can just stay at the house.

34:54 and she had no interest in politics they got a robotron she's perfect yeah Kamala can do it yeah get her feet wet I'm just I'm looking at the political you know just the map and they're like okay and it makes sense because Come invest. I'm just going out what you said to me. I'm processing it on the fly so The FBI has information on Hillary Comex steps in at the very last minute before the election between 2016 and they know they could probably beat Donald Trump in 2020 and they got the machines if necessary if allegedly have the machine so either way

35:35 They're four years ahead of schedule. They are now, yep. You're right. I don't know what they were planning on doing, but I look at 40 or 45 executive orders and I think they got some stuff done. Yeah, and then Joe's four years is just throwaway years. Now you can roll Harris. Um, you know, for 2024, 2028. You're so right because it wasn't really mentioned. Yesterday, President Biden had a meeting with some Republicans, a very important meeting. And of course, Vice President Harris was sitting to his left or to his right. And on the other side, who was it? Did you notice who was sitting there? Who was there? Valerie Jarrett.

36:20 Obama's not the one that was living with Obama. Yeah, she still does She's the Obama handler and now she's right next to Joe with the big press conference. Yeah, that's gonna be pertinent later Okay, I almost had to tell you goggles but now you're good. Um, yes all this is working out I mean well played I got yeah Do a jingle for him hold on and now back to the wacky adventures of I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's They got it made she can run for eight years they got Joe's four years and even if you know, Michelle might change her mind I mean and we're gonna explain how they build that coalition moving forward. You're not getting a sticking point, but that's pretty interesting information. So We shouldn't be confused

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Civil Rights Leaders Meeting, Tom Vilsack, Rahm Emanuel China Ambassadorship

Leaked audio from a December 10 meeting between Joe Biden and civil rights leaders reveals internal friction. Leaders expressed disappointment over the selection of Tom Vilsack for Agriculture Secretary and the potential appointment of Rahm Emanuel as Ambassador to China. The hosts discuss the Emanuel family's connections to Hollywood and China through agent Ari Emanuel.

tom vilsack· rahm emanuel· ryan grim· deconstructed podcast· ari emanuel

37:19 You know by what Kamala's there to do, but if we're going to say she's running the show or running the show for other people or however you want to say it, we even brought the point on an older show that it's going to be a committee and that your Valley Jarrett thing lends to that. It's like it's a brain trust of people. Well, we got to give those people the the negative press when it comes out as well and this goes to the video that was supposedly caught admitting he wouldn't do anything for as president. Well, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris sat down with civil rights leaders this week in a virtual meeting that up to this point had only been described by participants. However, the one and only Ryan Graham managed to get his hands on the complete audio and folks, there is a lot there. I got a few clips to play for you today, but you definitely want to subscribe to Ryan's podcast, Deconstructed, to hear a lot more. And trust me, you're going to want to hear a lot more.

38:14 Now, the first thing you notice in this audio is that many of these leaders not particularly happy with Biden so far, particular upset at the selection of Tom Vilsack for AG commissioner. You will recall that Vilsack was the one who fired Shirley Sherrod in a deeply shameful incident after Ms. Sherrod was unfairly smeared by Breitbart. They were also disgusted by the idea that Rahm Emanuel would even anything after his role in covering up the killing of Laquan McDonald. And they seem generally to feel like they weren't getting a lot of specifics in terms of an action plan from Biden on the issues that they cared about the most. Why are they surprised? This is what you get when you say, wait and see what we get after election. Yeah. Why are you surprised? And then they say, this, this was December 10th. He came right out and was like, Hey,

39:07 Y'all are not getting anything. Let's be clear. And a matter of fact, Laquan McDaniel, excuse me, Laquan McDonald shooting Rahm Emanuel, you know what spot he's trying to get? Rahm Emanuel? Yes. No, I might have. I can't recall. Ambassador to China. Oh yeah. Of course, you know, it works. His brother's got the whole Hollywood connection to China. So yeah, they would, those, the brothers would probably rule over there. The brain trust is intact. Yep. Wow.

39:47 Is that happening? Is he getting that? Is he still up for that? That's what was at the February 1st. Wow. From the Chicago Sun-Times. Wow. That's what he's... Yeah. That's pretty brazen, man. All the pieces are in place. For those who don't know, his brother is Ari Emanuel, you know, big Hollywood agent. I think he's running the studio now, isn't he? I'm not sure. Endeavor. Yeah. I know he's the character from the Entourage. Yes, the real guy. So they're totally Chinaman. Nice! Well done, brothers. Yeah, so we see it, like you said, Valerie Jarrett, Rahm Emanuel. We see all the same old crew coming back together again. Well, so now we have another clip from show 18 and

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Kamala Harris Universal Policy Logic, Ice Cube, Black Voter Leverage

The hosts critique Kamala Harris's stance that policies benefiting Black families inherently benefit all of society, arguing this avoids specific commitments to Black constituents. They discuss the lack of publicized demographic data for Black voters in the 2020 election and reference Ice Cube's attempt to gain leverage by negotiating with both political parties.

ice cube· contract with black america· leverage· democratic party· voting blocks

40:42 I don't know why they're surprised because she told him exactly what she was going to do specifically for black people. So by default it affects black families but there's not a particular policy for African-Americans that you would explore? But no if you look at the reality of who will benefit from certain policies when you take into account that they're not starting at the same place and they're not starting on equal footing it will directly benefit black children, black families, black homeowners. Because the disparities are so significant. So if we focus on the specific issues that have resulted in the greatest disparities, and we understand that that's part of why we're doing it. Listen, the reality also is this, any policy that will benefit black people will benefit all of society. Let's be clear about that. Let's really be clear about that.

41:38 So I'm not gonna sit here and say I'm gonna do something that's only gonna benefit black people No, cuz what benefits that black family will benefit that community and society as a whole in the country Right, right So help me with her logic society of benefit if we help black people That's our logic. Yeah, we're not talking about society here lady. We're talking about specifically a group of people. Kamala is for all children Moe. Right. I'm just saying so when Joe speaks, and this is what everybody's the stroller signed up for, and all the people that was pro Democratic Party just throwing your vote away with the same, same talking points, no promises. This is what you deserve. I don't feel sorry for you know what a lot of those people are now quiet. Oh, really? It's like all

42:38 all you had to do was let it play out how it was going to play out and you would have showed your power either way. Now that was my logic behind not voting. Enough of us not vote that puts the vote into play and you see just by not voting Ice Cube was invited into the room to actually talk to a party. Yeah but then they pulled the ultimate trick is uh well we know y'all voted but we're not going to publish the numbers anywhere. We still don't really know what black people voted in this last election. It's not widely publicized. And I'm glad you brought that up because I haven't found those numbers yet. I'll look for the same exact study. You think these studies happen year after year after year, but obviously not. So we have Crystal Ball and she's gonna

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Crystal Ball Analysis, Hispanic Voter Numbers, Demographic Power Shifts

Krystal Ball's analysis of the Biden meeting highlights the President's "thin-skinned" response to criticism and his warning to Black leaders that they must work with the growing Hispanic population. The hosts discuss the concept of ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) and the necessity of consolidating the Black vote into a flexible block to maintain political power as other demographics grow.

crystal ball· rising· black lives matter· hispanic voters· ados

43:25 I spotted something about her and I'll get to it on the backside of the clip. But now she goes into the details of what Joe Biden said actual to this quote unquote civil rights leaders. Now over the course of the meeting, Biden directly admits that he doesn't even want to talk about police reform until after Georgia and outright blames defund the police for Democrats underperformance. He shows himself to be characteristically thin skinned when challenged at all, something of course we've seen before. The perniciousness of hollow identity politics also on full display with Biden in one really bizarre moment lecturing these leaders, quote, you guys are going to have to start working more with Hispanics.

44:04 who make up a larger portion of the population than y'all do in terms of raw numbers. Always awesome to have some weird zero-sum competition between demographic groups. And he repeatedly shows complete contempt for progressives, referring derisively to AOC's ability to get things done in Congress. But there were three incredibly revealing pieces of information communicated in this call that literally tell you everything you need to know about how the Biden administration is actually going to go. Put together, they are a true bombshell and honestly, the landscape that we are facing is even worse than I thought. So the thing I noticed, I'm going to leave you right off what I noticed about her and liberal leaning media. They'll start off talking about black people.

44:50 And by the end of the segment, it's liberals, progressives. It's like, hold on, I thought we were talking about black people. But she did this weird pivot and they'll do that. They'll bring you in with the black and it's like, oh, here's a progressive. So how does that work? And then you heard Joe told her, hey, Black Lives Matter cost me votes. So I don't want to hear anything about police. Nothing. I don't want to hear nothing about nothing and then he goes on to say y'all gotta start working with the Hispanics because they got the numbers on you. Where was the outrage? Was there no one who went come on now?

45:31 Nobody's Joe being Joe. Yeah, okay, right? I mean he told you what black if he if you didn't vote for him Obviously we knew what was going on I just wonder if people are I mean I saw like an ad in the newspaper somewhere Hey, you know where we want some we want our props. Oh That's where I hear leverage that zero they got it. Well, yes, they have zero leverage You're right now look at this in transaction terms. He has your cash now. Yeah, you have to be nice to get your product If you're at the wheel of how much he's gonna give you so I mean they can't really say anything because they make us think about it people gonna be all I'm like we told you I kick him out and

46:20 And the point of what I'm making about this, and I'm not pitting any groups against any other groups. The point I'm trying to make is, if we're talking about political power for so-called black people, also known as ADOS, because that term black is very vague now with how it's rendered, we have to consolidate our vote into a block. then move that block to who has the most tangible benefits. That's how it works because he's right, we don't have the numbers. So it's even more important, but the leverage that we do have, we can win or lose election for people if that block is flexible. Now, do you feel that the block you refer to thinks that

47:09 the current election infrastructure is fair and especially considering the lack of publication of their demographic numbers? Well, it's never been fair. I mean, that's just part of being on the bottom. I mean, you understand. I mean, because it's, we have to be honest here. On the right, they do go through and take names off of rolls and that kind of thing. They did mail-in voting scams before anybody did. Right, so what I'm saying is if it's parity in the unfairness, I mean, you throw that out of the window and it's still like now we still have to negotiate and say if that block moves, if that whatever number of million votes swings from one way to the other, that election is going to follow. Because we see how tight these votes are, the campaigns are now and the elections are now. So if that move block is flexible to say we're going to go to either side, that's where your power is.

48:06 If you're just stagnant and hope to be a cog in the wheel, that's all you're going to be is a cog in the wheel and not have any power. Like you see the Hispanic Joe, not my words, you see Joe recognizing the power of the Hispanic vote. But the Hispanic vote has its own problems because it drift as it becomes more affluent, it drifts off into whiteness. And that's what any minority group, they start to check white. And we've talked about this on a previous show where they start to check white two or three generations being in the country. So that's the problem. That's the leaky bucket of the Hispanic vote. Now you have the black voter here that's very solidified. It's just having movement and having flexibility is how you wield the power. And that's what we were saying for all of the 2020 election, but these people's loyalties

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

Black Lives Matter Executive Orders, Private Prisons, Continued Protests

The segment covers Joe Biden's executive orders regarding racial justice and the phasing out of private federal prison contracts. Despite these moves, some activists remain skeptical. The hosts note reports of continued unrest and burned flags in cities like Portland and Seattle, which they claim received less media coverage than previous protests.

black lives matter· executive orders· private prisons· george floyd· civil disobedience

48:58 cost them. And that's a little foreshadowing to where we're heading soon in the storyline. So I think we stopped off at 11. Yeah, no, so we're about to pick up at 12. And this is Black Lives Matter activists voice caution. After months of protests in defense of Black lives, President Joe Biden signed several executive orders reiterating his support for racial justice in his first week in office. In my campaign for president, I made it very clear that the moment it arrived as a nation where we face deep racial inequities in America and systemic racism that has plagued our nation for far, far too long. But some activists are unconvinced the president will fulfill demands of the movement, such as redirecting some police funding and abolishing private federal prisons.

49:53 even though Biden signed an executive order phasing out private prison contracts. We're not too thrilled about him, but we're hoping that he's going to make a lot of changes and do something right for our people. But he wasn't our first choice, but because he was the only choice, we'd rather have him than Donald Trump. Just because Biden was elected does not mean that he's going to do the right things for BLM. We voted out Trump. So now it's time to make sure that Biden is going to follow everything the black community needs. Some activists say the key will be holding Biden accountable by reinforcing the grassroots organizing in communities of color that helped propel him to office. While some protests against racial injustice have been marred by violence, which both Biden and Trump condemned, the movement has largely advocated for peaceful protests.

50:42 and underscored the importance of work on local levels. Hmm. Well, that's kind of interesting because their fundraising is now corporate America. And so they really don't control that anymore. And it'll be hard for true Black Lives Matter Inc. to to convince the corporations to do something against their interests with with government. No, that's why she said the key is reinforcing community organizing, aka peaceful protest, aka violent Yeah, but I don't think they have the moves. I don't think they have the system behind them. They got the people to go out, but they don't have the window breakers. I don't think they have them now. Oh yeah? Well, New York Times just said they're breaking glass. They criticized Biden from the left. Oh, okay. As presidents call for unity and calmer rhetoric, his presidency begins with burned flags and federal agents deployed once again in the streets. That's important. Ah, I must have missed that. Oh, okay. Oh, good.

51:39 they was telling me. That was the point of when they say key is reinforcing community organizing. It worked, okay. That's keeping the truths active. But again, notice I didn't know. Why did I not know? Because it wasn't televised. It may have been, but it wasn't incessantly thrown in my face so I couldn't miss it. Well, peaceful protest is not great for television. We all know that. Burning buildings don't make for good television if you're trying to sell it as peacefully done. But now we have to get back

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

Eva Longoria Comments, Latina Voter Turnout, Political Realignment

Actress Eva Longoria's comments regarding Latina women being the "real heroines" of the 2020 election are discussed. The hosts analyze the shift of some Hispanic voters toward the Republican Party, attributing it to increasing affluence and conservative values among younger generations and small business owners.

eva longoria· latina women· voter suppression· republican party· affluence

52:16 to show 54 and that was Lemonhead Delight. And this is the clip, actual clip from Eva Longoria stating what Joe Biden just told us, quote unquote, civil rights leaders about the numbers. Again, our work is just beginning, but I want to talk about what you just said about the women. The women of color showed up in big ways. Of course, you saw in Georgia what black women have done, but Latina women were the real heroines here. beating men in turnout in every state and voting for Biden-Harris at an average rate close to three to one. And that wasn't surprising to us. Latinos are the CEOs of the households. They make all the financial decisions and healthcare decisions and educational decisions. Many Latinas are small business owners and they wanted a plan for recovery for themselves, not for Wall Street. And so Trump's policies were never aimed at the struggling Latina community. And if you look at voter suppression on top of that,

53:14 how Latinas showed up, even through the closing of polling places and the shutting down of drop-off sites and new voter ID laws and long lines and driving 30 miles and all of that. And on top of that, restrictions and safety protocols of a pandemic. That spirit and perseverance that Latinas use in their daily lives, the struggle to pay their bills and the struggle to show up to their jobs and homeschool their kids and take care of their elders. That's the same perseverance and spirit they use to show up at polls. Yeah, she got crap for that. No, she was very specific. I thought she got crap for that. Didn't she get crap for saying that? Oh, she did. She had to fix it. She had to fix it as you said it, but in the heat of the moment...

53:55 In the celebratory glee of being the real heroines, some truth came out. And you heard basically Joe Biden echo exactly what she said because she said we have the numbers. Especially with the current political structure of how the party works where we just show up and you're saying large swaths for the Democrats without anything to offer they have they're willing to cut deals and if you notice Trump got more Hispanic voters than any other I think Republican and maybe ever or a long long time yeah a lot right that's that leaky bucket I'm talking about because once

54:38 They become affluent or at least middle class. They understand well being conservative serves me better. Also a lot of younger people. Hispanics. Yes. A lot of them. Right. I mean, even with the even with the blacks as well. I mean, I said the blacks, even with the blacks as well. I said it again. Well, that's that's what it is. I mean, it's the that's the political structure. The blacks is like, yeah, we'll go do what we're expected to do. So now we're going to transition a little bit and look at a character profile, kind of like we did with 45 Savage. We're going to, and his characteristics of pro wrestlers there and... So we're going to do this for Joe. Neo-pagan gods and divvy gods, aka Loki. We're going to look at Joe Biden because we never did that with him.

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Trick Baby Film Analysis, Iceberg Slim, Confidence Men

The hosts draw a detailed comparison between Joe Biden and the protagonist of the 1973 film "Trick Baby," based on the novel by Iceberg Slim. They play clips from the movie and an interview with Iceberg Slim to define the "confidence man" archetype. The analysis suggests Biden uses similar linguistic cadences and psychological tactics to manipulate his audience's expectations.

trick baby· iceberg slim· blue howard· joe pine· confidence man

55:33 So he's going to get the presidential treatment. All right. Yes. Bend over Joe. Here it comes. Right. So Joe plays a very interesting, has an interesting role. And the reason why made Notice to the word confidence man is because the one our favorite movies here They created one of our favorite clips the trick baby clip. Oh, yeah Well now now we have to go look at the movie trick, baby Because it has some interesting dynamics that kind of aligned with Joe Biden and the people around him So if we can jump right into the trailer, yeah from trick, baby. Yes 1973 I was nine years old

56:18 You wouldn't know the truth if it walked up and spit you in the face. Trick Baby, the best-selling novel by Iceberg Slim, hottest black writer in the world today. The real gut story of the ghetto, its broads, its dudes, and high rollers like Blue Howard, the slickest con man of them all. Tonight, I'm drinking to the suckers. God bless their greedy little hearts. Because without them, where would our socialists be? Trick Baby. Find them for me. What did he do for his share? I tell beautiful lies for my money, Cleo. His white skin gives us a slick edge. I guess the black mark he catches on. We never played that, right? We didn't play that. No. No, OK. Cool. But our clip is from this movie, so that's Trick Baby. And the two people in the movie is Blue and the white guy they call Trick Baby, where he's not really white. He's actually of mixed race.

57:18 And just to give a little background, well, we'll get to Trick Baby setting down a con on some businessmen just to give you a little insight to how I align him with Joe Biden and his abilities to like, you know, instill confidence. And what I want you to pay attention to that even a similar cadence between him and Joe Biden. Well, mr. O'Brien has just been telling me a very interesting story go ahead. Mr. Brian. How are you going to make all that money? I'm making an investment. Oh what kind of an investment? Property I'm buying property in the ghetto. Yeah, that's good business

58:07 It is if you know what you're doing. And you know what you're doing. That's right. I'm a doctor, Mr. O'Brien, but occasionally I do invest in real estate. I must admit I'd be a little hesitant about making an investment in the black ghetto. You might be wrong about that. You really think so? In a day or two, I'm gonna make some very happy niggers by plunking down $100,000 for their ghetto property. Of course, they don't know I've already contracted to sell it for half a million. I think I'll get a refill.

58:47 You think there's anything in it? Possibly. What kind of property are you buying? Tenements. Can you explain how you managed to make such a good sale? It's the location. The value of that land's going up. The blacks are too stupid to realize what it's really worth. I'm not. Okay, so, first impression, because I've also not heard that clip, I don't believe. No. But I have heard our other favorite clips from this movie. Holy crap! That is totally Joe Biden.

59:27 I told you, right? I mean, it's almost like, and it's, you know, if you look at Joe Biden early Senate days when he was losing his hair for the first time, and I think, you know, Anita Bryant hearings, he has very much the cadence for sure, but the voice is almost close. And so when you think about, you know, early mid-70s, that was Joe's time. He is that guy. I mean, I'm calling him a racist now, but he's that guy. Right. And he's the confidence man. His name is, uh, the character's name is white folks, but he also is called trick baby. So just to clarify, maybe people got confused with who I was referring to, but, uh, it's depending on who was talking to him. He could either be called white folks or trick baby.

1:00:13 And to explain that, we have Iceberg Slim talking to Joe Pine about confidence men. He returns now to tell us about the most incredible con man he ever knew. A blonde haired blue eyed negro called White Folks. You're not putting this on are you Slim? No, that's factual. Called White Folks. How did he get that name? Because of the fact that he could pass over the line, over the color line? That's right. White folks was a term applied to him by his friends. His enemies in the black ghetto called him trick baby. Now a trick baby would imply, I believe, that his mother was a prostitute. And that she had had sexual congress with a white man and that had been an accident. And here you're going to tell us a little bit in this book, and I hope a little bit tonight on the program, about con men.

1:01:11 And about the old adage of you can't cheat an honest man because a confidence man's greatest asset is the basic dishonesty of the victim, isn't it? True. Tell us a little bit about white folks and how he preyed on people. Well, white folks had a natural talent for the con. and under the aegis of Blue Howard, all of his white folks potential as a con man surfaced. That's right. That's in our blood, man. Right. So we have white folks, aka Trick Baby, brilliant con man. And the reason why I equate him to Joe Biden is because

1:02:02 The way Joe Biden talks the come on man, you know in the no, it's him. It's him. It's totally him We could do a mashup. You could make it fit. I'm telling you it's him But where does that come from? You think you have to look at it? Well, he's from Philly. He's from Philly in the 72. Well, the corn pop, excuse me, the white folks thing. Yeah. He said you can only, a con man can only trick something, it prays off the dishonesty of his victim. Right, right. So when Joe gets these quote unquote civil rights leaders

1:02:41 He preys on their dishonesty. Yeah, yeah. This is what you were saying about depends on the lens that somebody's looking at him through. Right. He could be center left or center right. It's like if you want somebody's gonna crack heads and lock people up, Joe's your guy. You know, but if you want somebody that's been around black people for a long time and he understands the psychology of black people, Joe's your guy. So it just depends on the lens and it's the dishonesty the people that want to see what they want to see in him and he's like hey whatever you want me to be I can be that. I think that the general dishonesty which probably everyone has if oh okay now this is the president or the president to be and he's talking to me like he cares about me and I'm just gonna shut up about all that crazy stuff he says because I might get something out of it and there's the dishonesty. And that's why he was always known for his bipartisanship.

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Corn Pop Narrative, Boom Boom Cannon, Code Switching

The "Corn Pop" story is revisited, with the hosts noticing a new detail: Biden's mention of a man named "Boom Boom Cannon." They argue that Biden's time as a lifeguard in a Black neighborhood allowed him to "soak up the psychology" of the community, enabling him to code-switch when speaking to leaders like James Clyburn.

corn pop· boom boom cannon· wilmington· delaware· james clyburn

1:03:35 Because he can go in the back rooms, shake, you know, hey, hey, oh yeah, you're segregationist? Oh, that's all right, don't worry about it. We'll get a deal done. You know? I can't wait until you reveal his nickname. I'm very curious. Right, so we have the story of corn pop. Everybody was talking about corn pop. How could we forget corn pop? People miss one of the key tales or the makings of Joe Biden in that story from the humor of it So I went back got the full segment re-listened and let's listen to Joe and his understanding of black people. The point I want to make is I owe you all

1:04:16 I owe this neighborhood. I learned so, so much. I was a kid from suburbia. I lived out in Mayfield in a split-level home with my grandpop living with us and a three-bedroom home with four kids and my grandpop. But I wanted to get more involved. And I realized I lived in a neighborhood where I'd turn on the television and I'd see and listen to Dr. King and others, but I didn't know any black people. No, I really didn't. You didn't know any white people either. That's the truth. So I wanted to work here. And there's my daughter, Ashley. Come on up here, Ash. And so what I did was I came down and I applied to the city of Wilmington for a job

1:05:04 And for I was the only white employee here. And I learned so much. I learned so much. And remember Boom Boom Cannon and a few other guys that worked here well as well. And we sit there and we talk and it asked me questions because I really was the only white guy they really knew. I, uh, this is not what you're talking about, but I did hear, did he say Boom Boom Cannon? I never heard that name in the clip. Yeah, no, I mean, he's talking about the guys down at the- No, I know, and we always obsessed about Corn Pop, but I guess I never heard him talk about Boom Boom Cannon. I think that's a cool name too. Yeah, so he's sitting around all these black guys, he's the only white guy there, and he starts to soak up

1:05:51 the psychology. And that leads for the white folks. White folks was enhanced by learning blues tactics. Now you had this white guy that has, you know, he understands the beats of the street. But then he can learn from, you know, saying Blue to enhance his game. That's kind of what Joe Biden did. And that's why when he goes to talk to a Clyburn or these other guys, he's like, come on, man. You know, all the job talk, you know. Hey man, I used to hang with Boom Boom Cannon, corn popping the boys with some heavy dudes. Right. So when you hear him with these civil rights leaders, quote unquote, you have to

1:06:31 Is he speaking to them like it's just us come on. I mean let's go now. Yeah, yeah, I'm from Scranton Right so I just wanted to lay that out to you know If true if even true if it doesn't matter is because the confidence he protrudes makes it real who knows what? Well to learn, I mean to make up that story it could be true, it could be, I would believe it's more true because Joe Biden does understand the psychology of black people. I gotta give him that. I mean he doesn't use it for the good. I was gonna say, yeah. Right, but he understands it and it's similar to Trump. Trump hanging around with all the guys in Atlantic City, all the boxers, rappers,

1:07:15 you start to understand. Now I'm not saying they use their powers for good, but they tap in. And it's like, okay, I understand. And that's why you probably heard the same cadence from white folks as you did for the 1970s Joe Biden. Because it's the tongue of the streets and these things change over time. It's very huggy bear. Right. And a lot of times people get stuck in that time period where you know when they were cool you know it's like right you know and it's uh the hip-hop jag you know whatever area you came from there's always a right so joe joe right so joe could joe could

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

Build Back Better Campaign, Soul of America, 1970s Imagery

The hosts review a Biden campaign ad targeted at Black voters, which promised to end cash bail and decriminalize marijuana. They mock Biden's "Soul of America" slogan as an outdated 1970s reference and question the sincerity of his promises given his long legislative history.

build back better· cash bail· marijuana decriminalization· soul of america· 1970s

1:07:58 code switch, let's just call it what it is. He can code switch and communicate with people. So an example of that is from his YouTube channel, the campaign he had targeted towards black people. This is Joe Biden. Black lives matter, period. I'm not afraid to say it. Inequities have to be met head on. African Americans need a fair shake when it comes to economic opportunity, healthcare, criminal justice, education and housing. That's why if I'm elected, we'll get COVID under control by listening to the science.

1:08:34 We'll raise the minimum wage to a living wage of $15 an hour. We'll protect the Affordable Care Act, provide $100 billion in capital for minority-owned small businesses, offer a real plan to tackle the student debt crisis. We'll root out systemic racism in our criminal justice system, end cash bail, decriminalize marijuana, and automatically expunge prior convictions. Together we can fix this. Let's build back better. But I can't do it without you. So I'm asking for your vote. Build back better, baby. Yeah. You know that cash bail thing, man. That was the one. That was the lever. They could have done so much less damage to our streets just by just put the money and get the... If you want the people out on cash bail, whatever. That's what it was. That's what they always use, cash bail.

1:09:34 It's where all the Black Lives Matter money went. Ugh. Because like you say you have to keep what do we say about the community organizing you have to keep the screws to him Yeah, the only way you can do that is keep bailing out the same same people handful of people rinse and repeat gonna go right? It's gonna go that the third wave is what we call them. Yeah You know so and some of them like the second wave never gets arrested They just go and you know break the glass and then the same Some first wavers who get caught up in the third wave, but yeah Right, but another thing I want to point out about Joe Biden when he was campaigning was the soul of America. So with this revelation that means something totally different. He's talking about like soul, soul brother. I'm gonna bring the soul back. He needs some bell bottoms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do total 70 bring back soul baby.

1:10:31 That's why he kept saying I'm gonna bring back the soul of America. So I'm wondering, is he saying that... Do you think that that had a hidden meaning? That was like a... It's possible. I'm saying that in his mind he thinks that it sounds a certain way to a certain audience. Like how we heard. Right! He's like, I know how to talk to these people. You gotta tell them soul. Okay, but he does. But he also, he does. He has an odd way about it, but I think his age comes into play, you give him a pass somehow, like, you're really old man, and it's really old memes you're using here, but... Yeah, but I mean, he... I don't know, I mean...

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Nobel Peace Prize Nomination, Black Lives Matter, 93 Percent Peaceful

Black Lives Matter's nomination for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize is discussed. The hosts criticize the "93% peaceful" statistic cited in media reports, comparing the nomination to Barack Obama's 2009 win. They express concern that the movement's corporate fundraising has detached it from grassroots interests.

nobel peace prize· norway· george floyd· stacey abrams· barack obama

1:11:13 Now I'm not falling for it, you're not falling for it. No, I'm not falling for it, but I'm just saying that it's, you gotta give credit where credit's due. And if you can communicate and cast spells, which that's what comm is, I mean we gotta go back to our, you know, the terminology we use, which you get somebody caught up in this, in this spell, and they fall for it, and then they end up No pun intended, holding the bag in the end. So as we spoke about before, the screws have been ratcheted down so we had to throw Black Lives Matter a bone and they won a prize. On this, the first day of Black History Month, we take a look by the numbers at the Black Lives Matter movement, which has just been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize by a member of the Norwegian parliament. Between 16 and 26 million people in America participated in Black Lives Matter protests.

1:12:04 after the death of George Floyd, making it the largest social movement in U.S. history, according to four different studies. BLM was launched in 2013 in response to the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. It's a decentralized movement comprised of more than 100 50 different groups with no single leadership. 93% of Black Lives Matter protests last summer were peaceful, according to the ACLED, but there was some violence and more than 14,000 arrests were made across 49 cities nationwide during the protests, according to a Washington Post tally. Yeah, this was not really surprising, you know, knowing how these things are chosen. The worry I have is that, you know, the people who were in Black Lives Matter, they'll all demand a participation ribbon. I don't know if we can make enough.

1:12:58 I don't know how that's gonna work. Well, you know it never trickles down to the streets. We gotta worry about that. It's gonna be white people picking up the award, Moe. Come on, we do know what's gonna happen. Well, they gotta roll out, you know, the mainstays and the figureheads. You think they'll bring out someone? Who would they bring out? Not Patrice Cullors. She's retreated, man. She's not really up front anymore. Let's talk about something for a minute. They said this at the beginning when we had them on the TED talks, and I don't have the clip handy, but how there was what Black Lives Matter mean to you? Oh, it's global warming and it's all this and all that. Now that when the real money starts to flow out of this administration, they're over there. They're like, we use Black Lives Matter to prove that we could make things happen. But now we're going to bigger

1:13:53 purses, bigger bags of money and now that's the global warming and all the other initiatives. Yes sir. I mean they're still around but they'll be rolled out when they need to be but the one thing I want to point out, two things I want to point out from this clip was how do you get a Nobel Peace Prize nomination and you're 93% peaceful? How does that work? I mean, I would think the criteria to get a peace prize would have to be 100% peaceful. I don't know. I don't know how to... Well, now, first of all, they haven't won. I believe Stacey Abrams is also up for... I don't know if it's the peace prize, but maybe a no... I'm saying a nomination. I mean, like, when I'm looking at something, I'm like, well, they're 93% peaceful. I

1:14:39 It rounds up to a hundred, I mean, so we can put them in the right order. But when Obama got his Nobel Prize, he was embarrassed about it because he was the drone king. But technically he hadn't done anything. Nothing! He had a clean slate, so he was 100% peaceful. Yeah, you're right. He was 100% peaceful and he showed up. Perfect. You win. These people, 14,000 arrests across 49 states, 93% I don't know. Peaceful fires everywhere, peaceful looting, peaceful dead people in the street, and you know, you get a Nobel Peace Prize, but you know what? I equate this to the white helmets.

1:15:16 Getting the Oscar. Oh sure and which is now proven to be a total hoax Right and they'll have a documentary about black lives matter another 10 years saying you know what we didn't know The final thing is that no single leadership Remember that as you listen to the next clip many of these arrests were for low-level offenses like curfew violations and failure to disperse The BLM Global Network Foundation was just awarded 100,000 $1,000 is the winner of Sweden's 2020 Olof Palme Human Rights Prize for quote promoting peaceful civil disobedience against police brutality and racial violence around the world also on the list of 2021 Nobel Peace Prize nominees is Jared Kushner President Trump's son-in-law for his work brokering peace deals between Israel and several Arab nations the winner will be announced in October Wow I didn't even know he was nominated

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Jared Kushner Nomination, Olof Palme Prize, Racial Dialogue Formula

The segment notes that Jared Kushner was also nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on the Abraham Accords. The hosts contrast this with the Olof Palme Human Rights Prize awarded to the BLM Global Network Foundation. They conclude with a clip outlining a simple formula for honest racial dialogue between Black and white men.

jared kushner· abraham accords· olof palme prize· sweden· racial reconciliation

1:14:39 It rounds up to a hundred, I mean, so we can put them in the right order. But when Obama got his Nobel Prize, he was embarrassed about it because he was the drone king. But technically he hadn't done anything. Nothing! He had a clean slate, so he was 100% peaceful. Yeah, you're right. He was 100% peaceful and he showed up. Perfect. You win. These people, 14,000 arrests across 49 states, 93% I don't know. Peaceful fires everywhere, peaceful looting, peaceful dead people in the street, and you know, you get a Nobel Peace Prize, but you know what? I equate this to the white helmets.

1:15:16 Getting the Oscar. Oh sure and which is now proven to be a total hoax Right and they'll have a documentary about black lives matter another 10 years saying you know what we didn't know The final thing is that no single leadership Remember that as you listen to the next clip many of these arrests were for low-level offenses like curfew violations and failure to disperse The BLM Global Network Foundation was just awarded 100,000 $1,000 is the winner of Sweden's 2020 Olof Palme Human Rights Prize for quote promoting peaceful civil disobedience against police brutality and racial violence around the world also on the list of 2021 Nobel Peace Prize nominees is Jared Kushner President Trump's son-in-law for his work brokering peace deals between Israel and several Arab nations the winner will be announced in October Wow I didn't even know he was nominated

1:16:09 I know, you see the balance? Because I was thinking to myself, you know, I gotta say Trump did some work with the Jericho Accords and all that, you know, and there was no war for four years. And, you know, he put some historic stuff together. But okay, I mean, I've been following the Nobel Peace Prize for years. It's always dumb and political. But now Jared, yeah, he did the work. He'll lose. I'm sorry to say. Notice they had to put the balance up there. But that wasn't even portrayed here. What an opportunity to do a horse race on TV and they're not doing it. They're only talking about BLM.

1:16:50 No, because everything Trump has to be bad. I mean everything. They couldn't even give it to Trump. I mean they had to go to Jared. It's like, oh yeah, Jared. But that's what I'm saying. I expect, I would expect, I think, I don't think they know. I would expect the news people to be all over this. Oh my gosh, well clearly Black Lives Matter is going to win over the evil Trump. You know, they could play this story as a As an entertainment producer, I don't understand why they haven't used the story. It's beautiful. You can make Trump look even stupider. Right, it is a good juxtaposition, you know, to be had between those two groups or two efforts. But the thing I want to point out was, remember we said no single leadership? Yeah. Well, where's that $100,000 check going to? I'm sure it's going to some... I'm sure we can figure out

1:17:42 Who the leader is by whose name's on that check. Yeah, it was the black... That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I think it was the Black Lives Matter... Global Network Foundation. Foundation Network. Network, yeah. Yeah. I think that might be the Rosenberg woman who runs that. But it's no clear leadership. No, no, no, no. They said it in the same clip. They said it in the same clip. No clear... But here's a check. Man, it's amazing. Well... As you always say, Pay attention. The truth will reveal itself. They're saying it. The thing is we're so used to just taking the beating in the face and the information. I don't think we, half the time, we don't even process it. No, that's why you had to just... I'm gonna give people a little bit of advice. Take one story and just follow it. If you try to take it all in, it's gonna overwhelm you and fry your circuits. And that's kind of what we do here is

1:18:44 kind of repair your circuits or you know give you some surge protectors. Yes and the best way to do that is to put the two energy sources together and see what sparks fly. First the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And the formula is that simple.

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Value for Value Funding, Executive Producer Credits, Podcasting 2.0

Adam Curry explains the "Value for Value" model, thanking donors for their "time, talent, and treasure." He reads a long list of executive producers and their donation amounts, including a top donation of $976.33 from Andrew Watson. Curry also previews the upcoming Podcasting 2.0 pledge system designed to bypass traditional advertising and cancel culture.

value for value· podcasting 2.0· paypal· cash app· executive producers

1:19:21 Mo and I sit down once every, we're down to a week, 10 days, and we're working on schedules and actually Mo's got some pretty big plans. I'm excited to be a part of it. Yeah, I've been busy. Yes. And you know, it's like after 50, this is our 58th episode. And we don't argue about much. We see eye to eye on most things, I think. And the things we don't, we agree to disagree in. No, we keep it. Keep it cordial. What we do is put the fence aside. We leave the fence outside the door, and then we come here and we have an honest discussion. But also, I like the learning man. The auntie thing, that's mind-boggling. I never even realized how cool that is. The kama-kama-kama-chameleon, the chimera. Hey, this is a Value for Value production. You didn't hear any commercials. There's no corporate money in here. Otherwise, trust me, we wouldn't be on the air because corporate money is...

1:20:21 You know, you've got to toe the line, otherwise you're not a part of it. And who knows? You might not even be on the Internet with the cancel culture. So it's a complete independent operation. A lot of work does go into it and we love the the people who participate in producing the show. You listening right now, you're a producer whether you like it or not. There's a piece of feedback, a piece of information, something that you have that eventually will come into play and will contribute to the show. We call it the Value for Value Network. We ask for one of three things. They're all three if you got them. Your time, your talent, and your treasure. Anything you have, whatever you get out of the show, put it back in there. And we love to highlight our executive producers and associate executive producers who came in

1:21:04 with the big funds to keep us rolling this week and we start off with Andrew Watson. Now, so there's no note from Andrew Watson who supports us here with $976.33. Holy crap! Big, big baller. Nice! What? How come there's no note, Andrew? Crap, man, did we miss something? I sure hope not. And for that donation, he actually created something. The top producer for the week is gonna be the big baller. Did he put that together?

1:21:49 No, I had to do this No, no, no, nothing. We had to, we had to do something. All our producers are special, but... Gonna hit it one more time. Nice. I had to check my cash app, like... Did you type something in wrong or... No, I'm serious. I mean, thank you. Thank you. That's very cool, man. That is fantastic. And more than the money, just the thought that... You value what we do to that level. I mean, that's that that's Wow, yes Wow indeed. Thank you. Thank you Andrew Top donor for today's show Jackie green not too shabby $450 and 45 cents talk about some value in your face mo nice Jackie says great work fellas always looking forward to new episodes. Thank you

1:22:47 Jackie, really appreciate that. Nice. Oh my goodness. Then Brett Harding, throw some numbers down. One, two, three, four, five. Gentlemen, please accept my alley and oop it on home for me. Recently caught up with your back catalog and hope this donation will keep things in order. May I please get a DDB and some Mo' Karma. Keep doing the good work. Of course you'll be D deadbeated. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. You've got very nice bread 1-2-3-2-1 comes from Janet Kostrevsky. Dear Mo and Adam, Janet writes, I'm sending you this donation in honor of my palindrome birthday, 1-23-21. So we came in a little bit late on that, but thank you very much, Janet. Happy birthday. And she says love the show, and we appreciate that. Rusty Bickett. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh no, of course. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

1:23:46 I keep forgetting the birthday biscuit. It's not slipping into other shows. I think it showed up on Podcasting 2.0. Really? Yeah, so it's like, I want a biscuit. All right fine. Janet, thank you Janet. Rusty Becker, 11235. I'm loving these numbers today. Rusty says, hey Mo, sent you the 11235 donation. I'm a RonaMo. Can I get a Woosa for those who are new? RonaMo is a Rogan, no agenda, Mo facts. I wish I was a bit more clever, but I know you'll do a great show regardless. Well, I don't know man We we rely on some of the amazing things you guys think of Let's see. Thank you for being a light to those in the darkness also check out ninja scroll. I like Jesse LP

1:24:45 We got amazing? Amazing! Yes, Rusty thank you very much. R-A-B, Rab he says. Robert Sheldon, $100 also executive producer for episode number 58. Thanks just found you guys catching up quick appreciate the honesty and the subjects have you ever heard of David Gronowski? neighbor's choice on YouTube I don't think I have a view. Mo, did you check it out? I have not but I'll check them out. I always check people check things out that people send me about you on YouTube. Apparently talks about Rene Girard and mimetic desire from a unique Christian perspective also cuts out a lot of divisive propaganda.

1:25:27 Oh, that's what we do here. We can relate. Yeah, exactly. Do some homework, you know, a little extracurricular work. Thank you, Robert. Thank you with your 10-0-0, or your 101 penny. I have a drone. Yes, you are an executive producer for episode 58. Sir McQueen of Blighttown, our first associate executive producer, but also scores the episode credit with $58. This show keeps me cool. Thank you. Keeps me cool too, Sir McQueen. Sammy, Minkinon, Minkinon, Minkinon. And Sammy, also a member of the 58 episode club member. Please de-deadbeat me. Okay, we can do that. What else did you say here? De-deadbeat and give me mo karma. Thanks, really enjoy your show. So keep up the great work, Sir Sammy. Ah yes, a lot of famous and famous names popping up here. I like this.

1:26:21 Congratulations, you're no longer a deadbeat. You've got Moe Conway. People picking up on the episode Club 58 also episode club member and executive associate producer for Chris Bailey. Thank you Chris. Eric Hochul from Deutschland 52. No note from him, but we know he's always here to support us. We appreciate him so much. Julian Robbins, $50 executive producership in the morning. Adam and Mo, it's been a while since my last donation and I could use a de-deadbeating. Well, happy to hand them out today. Congratulations, you're no longer a deadbeat. I mean, if you've donated once. I was about to say,

1:27:07 You can't be a deadbeat if you donate it unless you just send some S&M, want to be called a deadbeat. We'll oblige you but don't feel obligated to have to de-deadbeat yourself if you're already a producer. I think people just like the jingle, Mo. I do, I mean, hey, that's what they're into. I'm not, I am no judge of what a queer pleasure is. It was an unnecessary de-dead beating, but okay, you know, I was like, I'm just trying to... But if she enjoyed it, that's what she wanted, Julian. Yeah. The message in episode 57, Julian goes on to say, was something that I and I'm sure many others really needed right now. The gaslighting in the media is insane and it's very important that we don't fall into the mind traps they're digging for us. Mo, are you familiar with 4D thinking?

1:27:55 Well, of course. We all studied 45 Savage's chess game. I believe this is the key to avoiding mind traps. Keep up the great work guys. We have a hell of a road ahead of us. Julian Robbins, Aptos, California. Now seriously, the 4D thinking, are you familiar with a specific term or practice? I think I am, but I use a different method just from what I learned in doing my job. It's the five Ys. You have to ask why and then why again and why again and why again? I think that's kind of what it what it means is that interesting moves moves are calculated on Not what you'd like the reaction, but the reaction to the reaction to the reaction. That's how I Understand it to be so ah so you you running down the ladder you say okay? Why and then why why that and why why why that is that we're saying right right with the auntie thing?

1:28:50 Like, why does she want her to not say auntie? You know? Yeah. That kind of thing. So yeah. Deconstruction. Well, you're an analyst. We know what you are. We know what you're made of. Hey, look at 13. Elvis, Chef Rosenberg, always here to help us. And he comes in with $50. An associate executive producer and he needs a cancel cannon. Nice. I love me a cancel cannon. A final associate executive producer for episode 58 is Dwayne, who sends us $50. Says support the show for the show and yourself and we thank you Dwayne.

1:29:28 And are we doing a second segment today, Mo? We're doing it all in this one. Yes, yes. We're doing a second one. Yeah. OK, well, we'll leave it at that for now. Thank you to our executive producers. And wow, again, thanks to Andrew and Jackie up there and along with Brett and Janet and Rusty and Robert and all of you. And we'll thank more of you who came in under $50 in our second segment. Again, value for value. It really doesn't matter what you What the amount is if that's your value if that's your top value that that is good for us That's what keeps it honest what keeps it simple and I'm very excited that the Mo Facts with Adam Curry podcast will be one of the pioneering shows for our podcasting 2.0 pledge system

1:30:10 which means your favorite podcast app eventually, but there'll be about five out of the gate, will be able to, you can pledge money, say, you know, I find this show is X amount, it's worth this much of an hour that I listened to it, and it'll stream that money in real time on a permanent basis to the show. So cool. Yeah, we're trying to come up with ways that get away from advertising, away from cancer culture, and actually away from payment systems. You know, it's like PayPal and Really the patreon, you know, there's a lot of stuff where it gets Platforms, you know get sticky. So we're gonna try and make this thing a little more future-proof and This is the perfect Petri dish to do it and I know we got a lot of producers out there who are willing to try anything so stay tuned for that and go to Mo facts calm

1:31:04 That is the main website. If you want to go directly to our donation page, go to moefundme.com, M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. And thank you to our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode number 58. All right, so we got to get back in it with Crystal Ball. And we know that she, as we pointed out before, she has a motive and that's the progressive motive. And they're using the plight of the so-called civil rights. And I don't say that disparagingly, but that term is loosely just thrown around with some of the people that was in the room. And

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

Biden Meeting Part Two, Charlottesville Rhetoric, Words vs Actions

The hosts return to Krystal Ball's analysis of the leaked Biden audio. Biden is heard insisting that "the words of presidents matter" and citing his response to Charlottesville as a primary campaign platform. The hosts interpret this as the behavior of a "confidence man" who prioritizes rhetoric over substantive policy changes.

krystal ball· charlottesville· three platforms· confidence man· leaked audio

1:31:43 No need to mention them because Joe was the star of the room. So she promised three things that she was going to run down that just going to foretell how the Joe Biden administration was going to be for the next four years. All right, so let's get into 22. There were three incredibly revealing pieces of information communicated in this call that literally tell you everything you need to know about how the Biden administration is actually going to go. Put together, they are a true bombshell and honestly, the landscape that we are facing is even worse than I thought. So first of all, Biden repeatedly and aggressively comments about how much his words alone matter. It's probably the most consistent through line of all of his comments. Just listen to how Biden responds to a questioner's specific concern about a lack of action and progress.

1:32:32 A lot of people in our community are getting a little anxious because they are not seeing enough of the progress they thought they would have seen at this point. Let's not disappoint them and let's not get to a place where Boulder to Georgia begin second guess. Okay, let me respond. I've got to go. Let me respond. There's a lot to respond to here. Let's get something straight. You shouldn't be disappointed. What I've done so far is more than anybody else has done this far. Okay? Number one. Number two. I mean what I say when I say it. I mean what I say when I say it. I'm the only person

1:33:09 who's ever run on three platforms that I was told could not possibly win the election. And I never ceased from it. One was on restoring the soul of this country because of what I saw happen in Charlottesville. That was it. No one else was talking about it. The words of presidents matter. Nobody else. I only now really realize what he was saying there. I mean what I say when I say it. Not five minutes later. When I say it, I really mean it. I mean what I say when I say it. That's crazy. I never even considered that. You shouldn't be disappointed. I'm on three platforms. Not one, not two, three. Three platforms. Can you dig it? I'm bringing us all back. Corn Pop is a bad dude. Yeah. Thanks Obama.

1:34:04 They get exactly what they deserve. But I had to hear it both ways. Is he thinking they're in a private meeting and he's like, I have to talk to them. Like, you know, like I used to talk to, what was the guy named Bo, whatever his name was, Boom Boom Cannon. Yeah, like this is how I used to talk to Boom Boom. I mean, what did I say when I say it? But, so you gotta think about it. And she says that, focus on his words alone. That's what a confidence man does. He sells you words. Oh, Trick Baby Biden, he was, he was, uh... Trick Baby Biden, did I hear, did I just hear you say that? Not yet, not yet. Okay. That's still not the one, but he's had so many. But it's just that, that's, I have to hear him both ways now, hearing that.

1:35:01 Corn pop clip. Yeah, because if he thinks he's shooting the job Yeah, is he being condescending or is he really tapping into? how he Would communicate with people that he thought of a book to black people. Oh, I'm to be fair to be fair if we Castigate him for it. Then we had to castigate Karen Hunter for when she did it. Well, I do I No, I'm just saying, I mean, I'm just saying, that's what we do here. We make sure we give equal treatment across the board. No, no, no biases. So now this is where we get to the new nickname. Oh, no, no, no, let me see. Let me see. I might be getting ahead of myself. I'm so excited. I'm tripping.

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

The Wire Character Profile, Proposition Joe, Political Hustling

A character profile of "Proposition Joe" from the HBO series "The Wire" is used as a metaphor for Joe Biden's political career. The hosts describe Prop Joe as a "hustler" who plays the middle against both ends and relies on soft skills rather than intimidation. They suggest Biden's reputation for bipartisanship is actually a long-term "scam" that benefits his associates.

the wire· hbo· proposition joe· baltimore· e-class

1:35:50 Yeah, so, okay, now. And I said, Trippin, how cool is that? I'm doing a Biden on you. Alright. Yeah, so this is where we get to his nickname. And it comes from a show called The Wire. And this is something me and E-Class, this show, we would discuss for hours and hours on end because it was multi-layered. I mean, it's one of those shows you can watch. I'll say it's like maybe five or six shows like that just off right ahead Mad Men. I could watch those episodes over and over again. Sopranos was written that way and The Wire just to keep a short list and this nickname comes from The Wire and The Wire was a crime drama television show that came on in 2002 to 2008 and

1:36:36 and on HBO, excuse me. And it was about a police drama in Baltimore following drug cartels and other organized crime. So one of the characters name was Prop Joe. Proposition Joe, however, is a rare example of a person whose ambitions aren't really clear. We know it's not to become king of the game because he stays in the background and seems to prefer keeping a lower profile, and he doesn't seem to want to go legit either. So, what is Prop Joe's endgame? Prop Joe uses his wit and intellect to make deals with his rivals and allies to keep his position secure and his supply protected, but beyond that he doesn't seem to really make a play in one particular direction.

1:37:16 Joe also seems to find some sort of pleasure in playing the middle against both ends. There are several times when he manipulates situations when he doesn't really need to or when a more straightforward approach would be better or simpler. But to really look at Prop Joe, we need to start at the beginning. In a flashback scene from Joe's days as a school kid, he is seen attempting to sell another kid the results to a test. The other kid threatens to beat Joe and take the results without paying. Without blinking an eye, Joe nonchalantly rebuffs his threats and tells him he should reconsider as he'll need Joe for future tests in the near future. When the kid pays less than what he owes, Joe then goes to his teacher and actually gets her to pay for information on who will be cheating on the test, thus getting back at the other kid and making up the money he lost. This is an important scene because Joe is shown throughout the show as a man who sort of has all the answers. People seem to believe whatever he says without question and he always seems to find a way to come out on top. Prop Joe. Prop Joe. Which is a double entendre. Oh yeah. You gotta prop him up and he's propositioning.

1:38:16 And he's a prop. Well, yes. Yeah, it was a triple entendre. I didn't hit the problem. We gotta pop him up. Prop Joe. I like it. But as you heard, he played the background. He was always about making deals. And so when me and classes have this in-depth discussion about the different characters and I go start working on the show, it's just like, wow, it's like, I mean, this character basically What makes that so interesting is Joe isn't the kind of person that really commands respect on his personality. He's soft spoken, he isn't a violent or intimidating person, and he comes off as sort of a big brother figure. People like Joe because he's a likable guy.

1:39:11 But the truth is, Joe is never the person who he portrayed himself to be. The kid who threatened to beat up Joe tells him, you're a snake Joe. But Joe responds, I don't have a reputation for doing business that way. However, the kid immediately questions the validity of the test and almost immediately calls Joe a snake, meaning that Joe in fact does have a reputation for being devious. Shortly after, when Joe pulls his teacher to the side to tell her about the cheating kid, before he even says anything she rolls her eyes and says, what is it this time? So again, he has a reputation of being a hustler who always finds himself in the middle of things. Fast forward to the events of the show and Joe is the same person he was in 1962. He's always in the middle of everything and he's always trying to manipulate the scenario toward his favor.

1:39:53 I found Prop Joe interesting because he's a character that has a lot of influence, but due to his inability to stay in his own lane, he's unable to really gain anything. So let's look at Joe's strengths. Joe was good not only at reading people, but knowing what they wanted, which he always used to his advantage. It was how he was able to talk himself out of so many situations and turn a negative situation into a positive one nearly every time it happened. Joe understood what was valuable to people and he always had something they wanted or access to. Wow man, I'd say that slipper fits. I mean right down to the, you know, he doesn't really benefit directly because his whole family is running the scams, you know. He just does his Prop Joe stuff and they give him a vig and he's happy. The big man, the big guy. Yeah, the big guy, exactly. Yeah, that's good. Very well, good score on this Moe, good score. And then they said he didn't, he's not really a

1:40:50 respected for his knowledge or you know saying he's just he's a very charismatic person. Even Trump, that was Trump big knock on him like he's not that smart you know I mean but he has the soft skills. He does, he really does. And he has the knack for bipartisanship means he can get the deal done. So the Prop Joe fits him perfectly and Let's just go home and go ahead and bring it on home with part three Joe did the same thing people thought they needed him even if they really didn't not only did Joe sell people access to things they wanted but he did it in such a way that they thought they could only get it from him Joe knew that most of the people he dealt with weren't going to investigate what he told them or see if they could get what they wanted elsewhere which is another advantage that he had

1:41:37 Joe also had a way with people. He's well liked. You can tell by the way others spoke about him that he was well respected. He may not always have been the most ethical, but it seems that most people just chalked that up as the price of doing business with him and since they were getting what they wanted too, there was really no reason to make a big deal out of it. But now, when we look at Joe's flaws, we begin to understand why things fell apart for him. His biggest flaw was his complacency. While Joe was smart and good at reading people, he thought he was smarter than everyone else. He's been playing the same game since at least 1962 and he got really good at playing it too. His strategy of being able to assist people in getting what they wanted at a price he wanted had worked for four decades so Joe had no reason to believe he couldn't continue to use the same strategy. Wow man did they write this show about him?

1:42:28 Timeline, everything, everything. That's just the writers joking around like, look, Prop Joe is the guy. And this came out in 2002. So I mean, that's interesting. E-class you're priceless, man. You're priceless. Was that E-classes fine? How'd that work out? No, the conversation we were having about the characters and it just put me in the mindset when I started describing them, I was like, wow, they have a lot of similarities. Fantastic. It's the mental exercise that we have between these men. Similarities, like facsimile is more like it. It's exactly, it's fantastic.

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

HR1 Voting Rights Bill, Reparations, Congressional Gridlock

The discussion covers Biden's skepticism about passing the HR1 and HR40 (reparations) bills through a Republican-controlled Senate. The hosts argue that Biden is intentionally setting low expectations for his administration's ability to deliver on progressive demands, despite Democrats holding the House and Senate.

hr1· hr40· reparations· republican senate· georgia runoff

1:43:09 But Prop Joe just I mean give a giveaway the story if it's not spoiler alert now His one downfall was his loyalty. Could it be the same thing? We'll have to see But now you hit like Now we got to get back to crystal ball keeping prop Joe and this character archetype in mind when she Discusses more of the three things that he talked about with the civil rights leaders. I So, he's asked about progress and he says, hey, I talked about Charlottesville. Isn't that enough for you people? I mean, in fairness, it is more or less all that he promised on the campaign trail, but you can't really blame people for wanting a little bit more now that Biden is ascending to the heights of American power. Words matter, sure, but actions matter more.

1:43:55 Biden, throughout this call, seems not to agree. Alright, the second important piece is this. Biden acknowledges that it's going to be extremely tough to get anything passed through Congress, basically throwing up his hands and setting expectations at the ground for what he can actually do. Here he is talking specifically about two voting rights bills. I like HR 1 and I like HR 4. But let me tell you something, we're going to have a hell of a hard time getting that passed through a Republican Senate. So the question is, what can we do in the meantime? I'm going to push him. Hell of a hard time and he's not wrong, of course. Republicans are not going to do a damn thing with him unless it's something you really don't want them to do in the first place. Start a new war, cut Social Security and the like. So you might think that given his acknowledgement of how challenging the congressional landscape is likely to be, that Biden would be ready to get creative in order to deliver some results. Yeah, not so much. I've been looking at that HR1. Uh-huh. Mo.

1:44:59 It's a monster and it's all about voting. I mean basically, if you're black, you vote twice. It's like, yeah, we have two votes. And you can drop it in the mailbox. As long as you spend them the right way. You have to vote Democrat, of course. What I'm saying, from last show, you can't work autonomously. Exactly. If you protest on your own. Yeah, exactly. You're violent thugs. If you vote the wrong way with those two votes, nah, it has to go a certain way. But one thing, I agree with Joe.

1:45:40 I'm only going to give you what I promised you. That's right. This is how politics work. These people need to grow up and be adults. They need to learn, yeah. And understand how the game works. You get your promises up front because when you saw him coming inside Executive orders for other groups and demographics he had no qualms about. He's like, hey, what am I signing? I got three more here today. I don't know what it is. Three more. Three more, y'all, you get your juice box. He's like, all right, I'm good. Let's go. But yeah, so the second thing is that they're crying about more and they want more.

1:46:22 Yeah, he was close. He said HR 4. No, HR 40, Joe. HR 40. That's what we need to talk about. Right. Is that the reparations thing? Yes, that's the conversation about the conversation about reparations. Right. But still, that'd be some progress in the right way, but he won't even talk about that. And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not big on governance. I'm big on, and I said that on HOTEP show. I don't want to clarify, just in case I confuse some people. I'm big on politics. I'm not big on governance because whoever gets the power gonna do what they want to do. So it doesn't even matter. I mean, it's about you win and lose at the, at the, at the, uh, up, up into the ballot box and what happens in the voting booth after that. I mean, it's like, you have to deal with what, what the outcome is. Um, so I just want to make that clarification. Um, but yeah, I'm big on politics, not big on governance, but,

1:47:15 Yeah, so you got HR 40, he's not going to talk about that. And I was saying that I think that they have all the House, the Senate, the White House, and it seems like they have a favorable court, I mean a cooperative court, if not, you know, it's not going to be very adversarial to them. So what's stopping them from passing anything now? Insincerity. Right, I mean now you really, if Post Georgia the special election. This is when you should if black lives matters what they said they were about It should be one thing and one thing only pushing towards reparation There's no excuse now that you can't do it, but you didn't get that promise up front No, so that's why I go back to I agree with Joe. You only get what you get promised He didn't promise you anything and he he meant what he said when he said it. I

1:48:11 Right, and I will make another thing clear. They were having this discussion in first of December time. I they haven't seen what they thought they would have seen at this point. He's not even in power yet. So you know what they're talking about Adam appointments. Oh, yeah. Who's on the team? Who's on the team? Right, and because you can't hold him to anything if he's not in power yet. He can't sign anything, but they were more concerned about this person not getting a pointing there or getting this office or you know... Or the wrong skin color or the wrong genitalia or not enough of the right person.

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

Executive Authority Limits, Student Debt, Immigration Pathway

Biden's refusal to use executive authority for major changes like canceling student debt or banning assault weapons is analyzed. The hosts contrast this with his "sweeping" immigration proposal, which includes an eight-year pathway to citizenship. They note that despite the rhetoric, actual border enforcement remains strict under the new administration.

executive orders· student debt· immigration reform· citizenship· border enforcement

1:48:48 Yeah, right. So I mean that's that's that's what the interests are. That's why I have no you're saying no pity for them because they don't deserve anything But let's wrap up with I think this is the final clip from on crystal ball third and absolutely critical piece. Biden goes out of his way to pour cold water on the idea of doing much more than rolling back Trump-era executive orders using his own new powers. And so there's some things that I'm going to be able to do by executive order. I'm not going to hesitate to do it. But what I'm not going to do is I'm not going to do what used to, Vanita, you probably used to get angry with me during the debates when you'd have some of the people you were supporting say on day one I'm going to executive order to do this. Not within the constitutional authority. I am not going to violate the constitution. Executive authority that my progressive friends talk about is way beyond the bounds.

1:49:49 And as one of you said, maybe you, Reverend Al, whether it's far left or far right, there is a constitution. It's our only hope, our only hope. And the way to deal with it is where I have executive authority, I will use it to undo every single damn thing this guy has done by executive authority. But I'm not going to exercise executive authority where it's questioned, where I can come along and say I can do away with assault weapons. There's no executive authority to do any of that. So you can all put your arguments about the class dynamics of canceling student debt back in the drawer because this guy, he's not planning on doing anything, let alone something as big as that. Okay. Okay.

1:50:39 He's talking to them like that, but I guess we can go ahead and just so we can hear the contrast. 28. President-elect Joe Biden has a number of priorities planned for the first day of his administration. One of them will reportedly be a sweeping immigration proposal that includes a path to citizenship for millions of people living in the U.S. without legal status. The plan would be a massive departure from Trump's immigration policies. U.S. foreign policy reporter Nick Wadhams is here to explain. Nick, it's great to have you on the show this morning. What are the details that you're hearing about this plan? So the big thing about the immigration plan that Joe Biden is promising is an eight-year pathway to citizenship. So essentially giving folks who are coming up from Mexico and Central America a clear pathway for what they have to do to gain citizenship and remove themselves of temporary status. There are a couple other elements to it, essentially rolling back

1:51:39 pretty much every facet of immigration policy under the Trump administration. That includes more refugee admissions and then more broadly what the Biden team is calling a more humane approach so you wouldn't see this sort of family separation policies and there would be much more effort to keep families united as they try to get to the United States. Yeah, that's, I mean, at this point for the promises that the BLM folks made or that they thought they were getting that's got to be a big I mean really everyone's at the bottom now I mean everything's destroyed everyone's all gone to crap so it's good for no one that people can come in and and Just basically jump the line that said I think there's a lot of horse crap about this You remember the caravan that was coming up? Yeah, they broke that up that was broken up by US enforcement and

1:52:37 That was broken up and they were sent back. So, you know... That's Joe being Joe. I'm just saying, it's like there's a lot of noise about how bad it's gonna be and that turns out the Democrats don't actually want that either but they just don't televise that part. Well, we gotta remember what the moniker for his buddy Bo was, Barry Obama. the deporter in chief. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like, is it we're going to say we're going back to those days? I mean, it's the same thing, but I want you to play the last 10 seconds of what that guy said.

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Immigration Policy Realities, IRS Tax IDs, The American Dream

The hosts discuss the nuances of immigration, including the use of IRS tax identification numbers by undocumented workers. They propose a compromise where parents remain non-citizens while children gain a path to citizenship. The conversation touches on the "over-marketed hype" of the American Dream and the burden of student debt on young workers.

daca· dreamers· irs· census· student debt crisis

1:53:14 It's very critical to the story. Immigration policy under the Trump administration that includes more refugee admissions and then more broadly what the Biden team is calling a more humane approach so you wouldn't see the sort of family separation policies and there would be much more effort to keep families united as they try to get to the United States. As they try to get to the United States. Try to get to? Yeah. Not already here, and he also said it in a previous part of the clip, coming here. Yeah, yeah. Not the ones that's already here. So they're just... Well, there's two pieces. So one is the deferred... the DACA, the Dreamers. So they grew up here and they've gone to school here. That's totally up for discussion.

1:54:14 But the way you implement that is what everyone's waiting for and that is, you know, so the Republicans will say, oh, they're just going to have all these Democratic voters, they're going to turn them on overnight. It's not going to go overnight. None of that will happen overnight. I'm just saying it's a lot of fear mongering and a lot of we're going to bring in more immigrants. I'm not so sure. The evidence is not there yet. That's, I guess, the the obvious point. I don't see anyone, politicians down at the border celebrating how everyone's walking away and because if they could they would. What I've always thought would be a possible solution, like I'm no immigration specialist or lawyer, but if they said okay come out of the shadows, you know, register yourself, parents, you will never have citizenship but your children will.

1:55:08 Yeah, well that's... I think that will be... Yeah, that's always been part of the argument is how far down the line because... Okay, so I've brought multiple people into the United States legally. So I know the process and at the bottom line is that immigration laws are meant to keep families together. Right. That's always been kind of the idea. So even The concept of people coming here sending money home is not really what immigration is for, but we have a 30-40 year history of just corporations standing at the border saying, hey come on, come on over, it's no problem, you don't need anything, no passport needed, we'll take care of you. Most of the people who

1:55:55 And I know a lot about this being in Texas, most of the people who do not have resident status or citizen status, the IRS gives them a number and they pay taxes. They pay taxes, they can't get much for it, but they pay taxes. So it's... I guess what I'm explaining is this... What I'm saying is, okay, what you need to do is get people on the books so you can count them, so you can tax them. And this comes down to the census, which they screwed around with and they're gonna, I think they're gonna do the census over? Right. Because you know that's a constitutional thing every 10 years. They did it. It was a mess with RONA but there was a lot of organizational stuff that was sketchy and I think it's because they just want to delay it and they didn't want to complete it. I think they have to do the whole thing over again because from that comes the actual division of money down to the state level. So what I'm saying is if you say to say if I'm a legal alien right and

1:56:54 I have my kids here, my wife, and we say, okay, we'll never have citizenship and we'll never be able to vote. We taxes everything like that. But my kids have a path to citizenship and for trade off for me coming out voluntarily coming out and saying, Hey, I'm here. I want to be part of the system. I want to pay my part. My kids get citizenship. That's fair. The reason why I say that's fair is because I know People say, oh, you're going to holler at them and send them back. That's unreasonable. It's not even logical. But what you do is you don't have a jolt to the system of voting by instituting people right away. You broke the law when you came here. For that, you can never have full rights. But we'll work because I'm going to say this, the people coming here

1:57:42 And this is, you know, this is what makes America, America. They're working. This is why they leave their door. Right. That's why they leave the door open to say, we got a bunch of lazy kids here. They don't want to do crap. We're always letting more in and how I see this playing out. And I may be, let me explain. I think they look, and I'm just going to put on my globalist, uh, oligarch hat and they say, okay, We got a bunch of lazy Americans here that don't want to do crap. Let's keep the door open so they'll come replace those lazy Americans. The lazy Americans will give them UBI and they say you can't have kids, you know, you can't procreate, you can't take care of yourself if the government's taking care of you, and then you replenish America with

1:58:29 proactive people. I mean, these oceans and these borders is kind of like the litmus test there if you're American or not. If you come here, you cross that ocean or to cross that, you know, the southern border was the test to get here. And yes, although I mean, I know a lot of young people who have come over from Europe and from other countries just overstayed their visa and never left or working in bars and restaurants all over the country. Right. And this is in a weird way, I'm not really against the idea of the student debt being dealt with because it puts, seriously, the kids who are now in the, and I just say kids, young people who are now in the workplace, they've come out of

1:59:21 Just, you know, this weird phases of life, you know, including the 2008 financial crisis, the shutdown. Trump has not been easy for anybody. Forget Trump, but the just the machine gnawing at everybody and then these kids are up for the same you know $25,000-$27,000 jobs except they have $50,000 in debt for school and you have a lot of other people who are coming in to be up for the same jobs but don't have the debt.

1:59:59 Right. I mean, they fell for the old American way, the old American system. Go to school, the job is going to be waiting for you when you come out. Over-marketed hype. Yeah, it's bull crap. You'll be able to have two people working with you, you'll be able to afford a family of four. Yeah. You know, a house, two maybe Honda Accords, you know, three bedroom house. A Honda Accord? Yeah, I'm just saying that's the, you know, American dream, right? two reasonable sedans and that kind of thing. But it didn't work out that way because the whole, you know, the whole world shifted with how things are going now. But there's a reason why I'm bringing this up because they, of course, they want an influx of new people, fresh blood. I mean, America's always been being built like that. And

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Demographic Shift Visualization, 1610 to 2060, The Browning of America

Adam Curry performs a "live" play-by-play of a demographic chart showing racial percentages in the U.S. from 1610 to 2060. The data shows white populations peaking in the early 20th century and declining toward 41% by 2060, while Hispanic populations eclipse Black populations around 1999. The hosts discuss Joe Biden's observation of biracial couples in commercials as a sign of this "browning" trend.

census bureau· demographics· biracial commercials· 1776· 2060

2:00:51 It is what it is. But listening to Joe Biden, everybody always misses the great part. I mean, she had, this is why I have to go back and listen to the source material because this is from the Intercept and this is the full recording. And this is the clip that I found most interesting. I am incredibly optimistic. Let me tell you why. I'm incredibly optimistic because society is changing. The Z generation and young millennials are changing. Now you're not gonna maybe agree with what I'm about to say, but take a look at what is happening. 15 years ago, could you turn on the television and see three or four out of seven commercials be biracial commercials? What do you think guys, huh? What do you think? You wanna know where society's going. Watch entertainment, watch the profit motive.

2:01:53 Why are these commercials so many biracial? Yeah, yeah watch entertainment show like WAP. That'll tell you what's going on in society. The browning of America? It's true. It's a fact. It's true, it's true and it's not a good thing for black people. No, I'm serious. And this is where I guess we can do our exercise that we talked about because you have to look at the numbers and I sent you Adam a video. Yes. From I think 1710 I believe to 16. Yeah. So it's a history of race and ethnicity in the United States 1610 to 2060. Oh, it's from the future.

2:02:44 Right, so what you're gonna. Do is basically you're gonna. We never seen this before you're gonna watch Let me explain to people yes on On the x-axis you have all the racial groups, and I'll know no yeah, I'm on the y-axis you have all the racial groups and I'm trying to remember the chart and on the x-axis you have all the percentages and so as it goes oh as it's measuring the percentage of each racial group over time so Adam's gonna watch the numbers fluctuate between the uh you know the percentage between the racial groups and tell me what he's seeing he's never seen this before so we're something new we're trying here and then we're going yeah

2:03:24 We're gonna have dialogue and the videos about two minutes so he can see it from 1610 to 2060. I'm nervous Moe this is like we're doing this live baby this is never done before. Do it live! So the categories are white, black, hispanic, native american, asian, other, and two or more for potluck. These are percentages and we start off With the year 1610 and let's get the music Going here Okay, and they're all yes, and they are indeed off. Let's see what we got here. Okay, so we're now at 1640

2:04:05 9 and we see that we have about 5% black people. We have zero Hispanics, zero Native American, Asians not on the chat, others are not at all available, and two or more, well, that's just not there. So we are now at 16, no, we're at 1,700. We have 11% black people. Hello black people! Welcome to America. Now we're seeing the white people diminish now by 85 percent. We're at 1735. 1735, we have 15% black people and we're down to 80% white people. Where are my Hispanics, Native Americans, Asians and others? 1776 is where we arrive now with 22% black people, 79% Asian,

2:04:51 white people and no Hispanic, Native American, Asians, others or two or mores. You know them, your other neighbors, the two or mores. 1819, 1820, we see blacks Diminishing on their way back down. Wait a minute. Blacks 15, whites going up. White is at 85%. And here come the Hispanics! The Hispanics have broken out at 1860 and Native Americans and Asians. Oh my, it's like a bunch of ants running across the screen. Okay, we have blacks diminishing, going down. Blacks going to 12%. Hispanic now at 3%.

2:05:28 Native Americans suddenly apparently born in the United States. They appear on the scene in 1900. We have whites moving up now. We are now at almost 90%. Blacks down below 10%. Hispanics on the rise at 4, almost 5%. Native Americans still on the reservation there at about 2%. Asians moving up. They are on the board with three and here come the others. The others are just screaming ahead. The others now at 1988 are moving past Asian, way past Native American. Hello Hispanics passing past the blacks in 2004. Blacks at

2:06:04 12% Hispanics now at 18. We are now at 2029, ladies and gentlemen, where we see Hispanics moving to 25%, Black Americans at 12%, and goodbye, Whitey! You are now under 40% as we hit 2060. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is your United States race and ethnicity from 1610 to 2060. Mr. Curry, you are the podfather, sir. See, I don't do sports, but I could do it. I could do horse race. I could do that. Holy crap. That was amazing. And folks, we did not rehearse this. We did not rehearse that, no. That is amazing. Sad. Sad. So what have we learned, Mo? What's the final total? You gotta give us the final total. I'm sorry.

2:06:58 That took it all out of me. Okay, well that was amazing. Let me just see. I think I've accidentally clicked to close. Here we go. So we have it here if you have it closed. I got it. Let's see here. I got it. I got it here. It's so the end so by 2060 the number will be, let's see right here. I got 178 million likes. Yeah, so that's about 41%. 61 black, 61 million black. And that black could be made of it by any, let's be clear. We're not talking about ADOTs here. So that's the value of that number. Right. Yeah, whatever that is. Okay. And then just hovering right at 13%. I mean, that's, that's what we, that's, that's our sweet spot. We used to be 20%, but somehow we've gone backwards and Hispanics eclipse us. They left us actually. Double, double, double. Right. 128 million.

2:08:00 Native America still hanging back with six million Asians that they're at 50% of what we are 30 a little over 50% Something weird happened though because the others the others came out like a bat out of hell the others, right? I'm looking at now the others. They're at 5% by 2017 and then 2020 other is gone in the white I'm Adam, I'm white, I'm other. How you doing? All right. I'm two or more. And Native American though, they weren't really here, I guess. That's crazy because they don't show up on the chart until, let me see. They don't show up until 18, according to this chart. Let's see, where does the first one pop up? Okay, by 1860, I guess that's when they start counting them and then they pop on the chart.

2:09:05 If anything I said in my unrehearsed, off-the-cuff reportage, if that offended anybody, I tried to fund everybody equally. It was totally professional. But the point we're trying to make is here. Black people have been on this landmass for a very long time. Been a while. And we don't see immigration the same way as our counterparts in the colored people group. Because we see our numbers either dwindled from 20%, I think the max is like 21, 22%, all the way back down to 13% and stay stagnant. And it's like, how can this other group just out of nowhere lap us twice? Yeah, they lap you in 1999. Right. That's Hispanic.

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

Genetic Vanity, Muhammad Ali Interview, Cultural Preservation

A 1971 interview with Muhammad Ali is played, where the boxer argues for the natural desire to "be with your own" and have children who look like their parents. The hosts defend the idea of cultural and genetic preservation, arguing that the modern push for "multiculturalism" is a corporate strategy to destroy distinct heritages.

muhammad ali· michael parkinson· genetics· dna· cultural identity

2:16:22 Now white people might get sustained. I mean y'all gotta be alright. I ain't complaining you're still number one in the bar so I mean. No tears shedded but I mean who's really gonna be affected? We gotta see how these things play out. I mean and then it's gonna be like who do my kids marry? to her other, I guess. And I'm not saying, look, they can marry, they can love who they want to love. But what I'm saying is this, when you and I'm going to be, can you get the door? Oh, yes, of course. I knew it was coming eventually. In fact, they should have already had the key. I'm sorry about that. Here it is. Let me just come on in here. Come in here, Mo. And then I'll ready. Who are my kids going to marry?

2:17:14 And the reason why I say that is the most arrogant and vain thing you can do is have children. Because you want to see yourself. Even with your own kid, and you split DNA with your wife. You're like, I hope the kid looks like me. You know what I mean? Like, you meet me. No, I'm serious. So it's not about racism or anything like that. It's the genetics. I want my kid to be looked at. When you see your features in your child, it's like, ha ha, my boy, my boy. I mean, that's...

2:17:51 pride that comes from that. So I'll be hypocritical if other groups felt that way. No, it's not all. My daughter has her mother and her grandmother's Greek skin, olive, you know, this kind of beautiful olive skin. And they're very proud of it. You know, that's, oh, that's the Greek in her. That's fantastic. And I look at her and go, she got my brain, so that's fine. Right, but if you were to say, ah, that's my girl, look at that white skin. You know what I mean? Like, you'd be castigated. That would be funny. Yeah. Right. Hilarious. Shut up, Adam. Yeah, exactly. But they don't understand when they attack you, I'm dealing with the same thing over here because...

2:18:32 My vanity is being interfe- and then, hey, right or wrong, it is what it is. But I want my grandkids to look like me. Now, do I want- no, it is what it is. Because what I'm saying is I want them to maintain the culture that we have. It's not about race or color or anything like that. I want to see it further on. I'm proud of my people. I love my people and I don't want to see us washed away in this global scheme that's going on. It is something that no one should be afraid to say it. No one should be able to. And I like the way you put it.

2:19:09 It's like, I want my kids to look like me. If possible, if not, okay, whatever. There's nothing wrong with that. Everyone should be okay with that. But that's not the messaging. It's just not the modern messaging. And I love my wife. I love my wife. Still, I want to see my DNA. And I think it's just the animal part of us, you know, the animalistic side of our brain. It's like a sense of approval when we see our children mimic something we can recognize in ourselves. So it's deeper than this just, oh, this group, but this multicultural thing, they did a slight of hand with the diversity thing, because this does not lend to diversity. No, no, it doesn't. I think we can open the door now, but I just got to get off my chair. Thank you.

2:20:04 Alright, there we go. Much better. And to illustrate the point of my racial pride is one Mr. Muhammad Ali and this is from show 51, Civil Wrongs. That's society's fault. I mean we've got to educate people around it. Well life is too short for me to be ready to catch in hell for something like that. I'd rather go and be with my own. I have a beautiful daughter, beautiful wife, they look like me, we're all happy and I don't have no trouble. Ain't no trouble, I ain't that much in love with no woman to go through all that hell. Ain't no one woman that good. You understand? I understand, yeah. I just, I do understand. I understand, but I think it's sad that... It ain't sad because I want my child to look like me. Every intelligent person wants his child to look like him. I'm sad because I want to blight out my race and lose my beautiful identity. Chinese love Chinese. They love the little slanted-eyed, pretty brown-skinned babies.

2:20:56 Pakistanis love their culture, Jewish people love their culture, a lot of Catholics, they want to marry a number of Catholics, they want the religion to stay the same. Who want to spot up yourself and kill your race? You will hate of your people if you don't want to stay who you are. You shame what God made you? God didn't make no mistake when he made us all like we were. I think that's a philosophy of despair. Despair. It ain't no despair. Number one, can't no woman, let me tell you something. Listen, no woman on this whole earth, not even a black woman in Muslim countries can please me and cook for me and socialize and talk to me like my American black woman. No woman, at last it's a white woman, can really identify with me and my feelings and the way I act and the way I talk.

2:21:37 And you can't take no Chinese man and give him no Puerto Rican woman and holler about we in love and you emotionally in love and physically but really they're not happy because she's gonna hear some Puerto Rican music. He's gonna hear some Chinese music. And they're gonna be slashing all the time. It's just nature. You can do what you want, but it's nature to want to be with your own. I wanna be with my own. I love my people. That's all. I don't hate nobody. We gotta just recognize this, Mo. If a white man says that today in America, but in any country almost, you're a white nationalist racist a-hole xenophobic bigot.

2:22:14 Yeah, and if I say that, I don't know what white people or black people. I know, but so we stand shoulder to shoulder in this. It's like you should be able to do what you want, but the forcing and the shaming, and of course, the minute you hear Muhammad Ali, he sounds totally rational with what he's saying. Like, okay, I get what you're saying. And this is from 1971 and you heard the host say, that's a despair. I mean, globalism was... It must be crippling. It's not about cultures and this culture and that culture. What it is, is these cultural Marxists want to destroy all culture. And when you devoid everybody of culture, then you can implant your own corporatist culture.

2:23:04 Which is already there. Hello Apple BLM wristband, BLM iPhone, iPhone-y watch. It boils down to these simple gestures and that's all we, it's caricatures of ourselves and now they just say okay this is what black is or this is what white is or and then they paint it That's the profit motive that Joe was talking about. Why do you see these things? And I'll wrap up this segment just on this point about racial differences and multi-racial, like I said, you love who you love. If you're lucky enough to find a person that you can love in this life, you're lucky. So I'm not saying anything about that, but I'm saying what games are being played at a very high level to push these images to us to the point that a 78 year old president feels comfortable to say that that's the solution.

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Pinky Film Reference, Racial Fluidity, Colorism in Music

The 1949 film "Pinky" is used to discuss the concept of "passing" and racial fluidity. The hosts critique modern celebrities like Drake and the rapper Mulatto (Latto) for what they describe as "ambiguous" racial identities. They discuss "colorism" within the Black community and the perceived social advantages of lighter skin.

pinky (1949)· passing· drake· mulatto (rapper)· biracial

2:24:00 That's correct to say that's the solution. That's wild. But at some point as you progress, as I said, slipping into whiteness, there's going to be a point that white becomes so accessible or brown is going to be the new white. We discussed that before because if I'm not white or black, you know, I mean, I want to smoke a black people, but I don't want the privilege of white people. So I'm going to hang out in the middle here. When people start doing that from black to whatever they're transgressing to coming from the bottom and going to other groups This is the conversation, this comes from Pinky at the 1949 movie that we looked at in show 39 hard pass and her grandmother just being heartbroken that she decided to turn her back on her race. What is it Pinky? I wish you'd never sent me away. You mean you wish you'd grow up ignorant, no count, good for nothing? You wish you'd never learn to read and write and make your way in this world?

2:24:58 Don't you see? Yes, Pinky, I do see. Let me say something once and for all and never again. Why is it you write me less and less as time go by? Why is it after you go to hospital I get no letter at all? No, you don't need say nothing. You think I don't know. You think poor old evening woman like me living in a shack like this don't know nothing. But you're wrong, Pinky. I do know. And I know what you've done. And you know I never told you pretend to me is what you mean. Forgotten about that one. Yeah, so when you move on from whatever group because this is going to happen, I mean, we're talking about white and black here soon. Hispanic people we saw we had a clips about this white Hispanic people start claiming black, claiming white and these other groups claiming white.

2:25:56 When it hits home, I mean that's when you I couldn't imagine that your child not wanting to be who you are. That's that's that's pretty rough right there. But I have a couple clips from Vox. We don't have to listen to all of them, but let's just get into the first one talking about the fracture politics of a browning America. Here's the big picture. The US is at a demographic tipping point, a genuinely historic moment. 2013, it was the first year that a majority of US infants under the age of one were non-white. By 2016, white deaths had outnumbered white births. But America's overall population? It's not expected to decrease. And that's because the Black, Asian, and especially Latino and mixed race populations, they're also growing. They're growing fast. By 2045, the Census Bureau projects that non-Hispanic whites will no longer be a majority. And also that foreign-born residents are going to make up a record share of the population. Yeehaw! So they said all these groups are growing, but when we looked at this chart, Black people stayed at 13%. Yeah. Black people stayed at 13% and white people went down.

2:26:59 And it's a tricky thing they do when they say growing they saying yeah, are you gonna have more people? But of course in the world you're gonna have more people Well, I mean by is all slices of pie is gonna be the same size. You're talking about equity mo right So It's just scary. I mean like where are they leading us to? And as we say on this show, what we heard said on the show, when black white people get a cold, black people get the flu. So if this browning of America is affecting white people, nobody's really studying what it's going to do to black America. To the point, and I'm just going to give this pop culture reference, you're starting to see

2:27:45 Light-skinned black people pull away from dark-skinned black people in music I mean there's songs about light-skinnedness light-skinned that have a rapper named mulatto And they're like it's you getting this colored group Start to form inside of black people where they say I'm mixed I'll have a multi racial or you know, I mean you are what you are, whatever. I'm just Where does Drake fit into this then? What group does he stand in? Drake is biracial. His mom is a Caucasian Jew. But he likes to slip in everywhere. That's the point and that's where it's dangerous that these people can just be racially fluid.

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Psychological Reactions to Demographic Change, Whiteness, Beauty Standards

The hosts review a Vox segment featuring psychologist Jennifer Richeson, who explains that all racial groups tend to become more politically conservative when told their demographic share is shrinking. The discussion concludes with a critique of modern beauty standards and the "mind tricks" played by media companies like Disney.

jennifer richeson· vox· conservative shift· beauty standards· cicely tyson

2:28:27 That's another term I call ambiguous. It's like, I don't really want to say what I am. I'm just not, you know, and I'm not white. They'll clarify it quickly. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not white. But you know, they don't want to own their lineage. And that's my real problem because being a father, that would be heartbreaking to me. that people will be ashamed of where they come from. Yeah. So, all right. So we got breaking, I mean, excuse me, Browning America too. So when you show people these numbers about how America is changing, what goes through their heads? What is their response? I think people are hearing these changes as somehow a fundamental remaking of what America is. At least a lot of people are hearing it. And some of them are excited about it and some of them are not so excited. We see on average white Americans, when they read about this majority-minority shift,

2:29:23 becoming more politically conservative. Jennifer Richeson is a psychologist who studies how people react to demographic change. You want a MacArthur Genius grant for this work. And what she's found helps explain a lot of what we're seeing. For instance, when white political independents who live in the West were told that whites were no longer a majority in California, They became 11 percentage points more likely to support the Republican Party. That is a huge change. And it's important to say, this is a human reaction to demographic change, not just a white one. When presented with similar data on the growing numbers of Hispanics, Asian Americans shifted towards more conservative views. Black Americans shifted towards more conservative views. Being told your group is shrinking or that it's losing power, it's scary for anyone.

2:30:02 Losing numbers are associated with losing status, losing power, losing currency in the culture. She says associated with no, it's a realization. When you lose numbers, you and you and you fact galvanize these groups by their cultural or racial or religious identities. as those people start to drift off, then you do actually lose leverage. Now let me make one clarity here, because I know some people might be frustrated by what I'm saying, and I'm going to say this. Black people, and I'm going to speak from the most honest place of me, do mixed race people no favors, or light-skinned people no favors, because I see the bullying, and I see the

2:30:56 teasing and this may be part of the reason these people want to leave because they never quite fit in anywhere. So I understand, I'm not saying this from a lack of empathy, no, I understand. Because all you the pretty light-skinned girl. Oh, you got the good hair. You know, I mean that kind of thing That's not just one way don't ever get it twisted. There's just one way no and I will say it tends to be that the people of What they call pure blackness are very racist racist No, I'm not Colorist big deal. Yeah, I don't know what differences makes but yeah, I

2:31:40 Well, it's like you're part of the group, but you're a different subset of the group. That's kind of the difference. And colorism is a world phenomenon. Yeah, but if you're basing that on someone's skin or their hair, that's racist. It's fine. Is it? I mean, because you say, I understand you're black. You say, I understand you're black, but you ain't all the way black. I mean, I'm not taking, I'm asking a legit question of, but you know what it really is? It's human nature is what it is. Not only that, and I can empathize with it, especially, I don't think colorism is more of a man thing because men are going to take the best deal available. I mean, like whoever's the prettiest to you. You want me? Okay. Right, right, exactly. You know how we were like, wow, I'll pull this one off. I got attention. I don't think guys really look at color the way women do because women's beauty standards

2:32:33 are set by a big component of it is color and hair texture and the same Madison Avenue firms that's running these commercials. Because if you really want to be honest with, let's get all the way funky with it. We're going 30, 35 at the window. We ain't going there. I gotta say this, real black people are disappearing from commercials. Because that white man and that black, supposed black woman you see, tends to be, you know what I'm saying, a biracial person. No, no, you nailed it, Mo. You nailed it. Show me a commercial with a black, black, black person. No. You won't see it. Right. So I'm just, I mean, I'm just gonna say that. And I'm like, the thing I'm trying to 2021 is being empathetic to people.

2:33:21 and I understand why Pinky might, let's just take Pinky for instance. Pinky was never accepted in her community because white people thought she was white. And some people are like, well you have a leg, I'm going to be specific, some black people might say, oh you have a leg up on life because you have excess or proximity to whiteness. They might not say it that way, but that's where their frustration comes from. So I mean, like I said, we have to be honest about when we have these conversations One, and I'll say this, beauty is beauty. And I had to put respect on the late great Cicely Tyson. Beautiful woman. Now you got her and you have Eartha Kitt. Both of them are beautiful, two different shades. So beauty is beauty. But it's these mind tricks that they play, especially in Disney and these commercials and these things that make women feel incomplete. And then you see this phenomenon now with just lashes. If you can do it with lashes, you can do it with anything.

2:34:23 To where people don't want to not have their real lashes. I mean like that's unacceptable. So you see with these makeup and these other things, man, they're playing real games with people. But I digress. But I say this because I want to be... But no, I want to stop and thank you for that. So just to process a whole bunch of stuff, this what is always viewed upon by the mainstream as racist and bigotry. A lot of it is just normal kind of humor, human behavior inside groups, inside families. It's not really a horrible thing, but the machine uses this and the original sin, as we've talked about,

2:35:10 the United States of America to contend and that is the true thing that that is going to eat us in the end if we don't get over that and say you know what you can say all you want on television or whatever about how we're all racist and horrible just shut up just turn it off ignore it because it's very normal and it's not all racist And the other thing is, intragroup, we have understandings. I mean like a white person can call another white person a redneck and it means something different. Of course. I don't know if it's as offensive, I can't say because I don't have that. Obviously it depends who, where, you know all the typical things. Right, but when you go across interracial

2:36:00 things don't translate the same way. And that's what we're talking about how Joe Biden was talking. It's heard a different way. But to say the only color of Madison in America is green. Right, there you go. And that's quickly turning into God knows what color. It's not a color, there's no more green. They're taking money away from us. So with that said, I love new money. Yes, me too. I like brand new money. I just don't want any money around me that's not I'd almost rather have a new one than a brand than an old 20 That's kind of dumb in but there's something about new money that excites you you like hundred dollar bills. Oh, yeah, I like money, too Oh Most beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill. I ain't seen a woman as good-looking as a hundred dollar bill There's something about a dollar bill that excites you That's right

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Second Donor Segment, Anonymous Contributions, Mo Karma

A second round of donor thank-yous includes several anonymous contributors and listeners from Australia. The hosts grant "Mo Karma" and "de-deadbeatings" to various producers. One donor's note mentions the "mind traps" of woke culture, while another references a "proud boy" turning in an "Antifa" brother.

douglas n· melbourne australia· paypal· proud boys· antifa

2:36:53 Yeah, those hundred dollar bills are going away. It's all just going to be Bitcoin and Satoshi eventually. Time to thank our second group of supporters, producers for episode 58 of MoFax with Adam Curry. We left off under $50 with Douglas Mook. Who came in with $49.99 so he slips right under the radar with no note. I think that's understandable He probably wants to be on the on the QT there. Lindsey Jarrett $45 and a big thank you Douglas N with 40 42 Hey Moe and Adam Douglas writes not sure this note will make the cut for the next show No need to read it on the cast, but I made a donation of $40 and 42 cents

2:37:36 My only request is to keep my last name anonymous. Doug N. Works. Boom. Taken care of. I have a unique name, at least as far as I can tell. Well, okay, why don't you stop giving us clues if you want to be anonymous? But he says almost all of my friends are super woke and I don't need the hassle. Understand. People caught in the mind trap can't be reasoned with easily. Well, maybe some more karma for my family. Only complaint about the podcast is that you make me think too much. That's not complaining actually. Thank you for the thought-provoking work, Godspeed, Douglas N. And of course we got that karma for you, my friend. You've got Mo Common. And for your family. Steele Syme, I would say. 3666. Mo Fax has quickly become my favorite podcast. Keep them coming. So Steele, who's in Melbourne, Australia. Actually, I think that may be an associate executive producer if he sent that

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CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

George Soros and Obama, Financial Crisis, Nationalizing Banks

The hosts play a clip of George Soros expressing dissatisfaction with Barack Obama's handling of the 2008 financial crisis. Soros argues Obama should have nationalized the banks. The hosts suggest this tension informs the current "Great Reset" and the push for central bank digital currencies under the Biden-Harris administration.

george soros· barack obama· great reset· central bank digital currency· 2008 financial crisis

2:43:19 And you can do that by going to mofax.com or if you want to go directly to our donation page, it's mofundme.com. M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E dot com. And thank you again to these 30 or 40 people who produced episode number 58 of MoFax with Adam Curry. All right, so we talked about the title of president. We talked about who would be functioning as president. But we had to talk about who really is president. 37. I had a stand in, a front man or front woman and they had an earpiece in and I was just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff and then I could sort of deliver the lines but somebody else was doing all the talking and ceremony. I'd be fine with it. Thanks Obama.

2:44:24 Where you have it? You got it. Yeah, you know and I don't really think he's running Biden either. It's whoever was running Obama Do you really think Obama is smart enough to run Joe Biden? Oh no, but he's sent. He's the CEO. I mean just like a CEO runs a company, right? I mean they don't make unilateral decisions. As he pointed out many times, it's going to be a committee. Obama used those words. It's going to be a committee. Not just Joe. But I think he's I don't think he wants this. No, no, he doesn't at all. He wants to be Hollywood and that's not working either that well for him. Right, but I think he didn't finish the job by the people that sent him. So, and he till he does, he's on the hook because he's the brand. Everything has to touch Obama. I mean, like you got Biden and Obama, that's the connection. You have Kamala, Obama, that's the connection. And they all have one source

2:45:25 George Soros. So George Soros wasn't happy with the way Obama did things with his eight years. Now when we say George Soros, we mean him and people like him. We don't think he's solely, I mean his son I think is more active now than he is. His son is up there in Myanmar right now. Yeah, we gotta keep an eye on him as well. What is that As we said before, we think George Soros just drew the shortest straw. So he has to be the face of globalism. But there's a lot of people, a lot of interest that's pushing Obama to stay where he's at because he didn't, like I said, he didn't make him happy with his first eight years. You were a great supporter of Barack Obama. You helped raise money. You gave a good bit of money yourself.

2:46:18 Are you satisfied with the job Barack Obama has done? No, I'm not satisfied. The solution that he found to the financial crisis, which was to effectively bail out the banks and allow them to earn their way out of the hole, was in my opinion not the right solution. He should have compulsorily replaced the capital that was lost. Which in effect would have been nationalizing the banks. This is what they call nationalizing the banks. And he made the political decision that that is un-American, will not be accepted. Oh, this is actually a very good clip, Mo.

2:47:05 This is no agenda. This is good for no agenda. I'm going to use this. I'm going to alley, you're going to open a home. Yeah, what he's saying here is, no, we screwed it up last time. We got to get rid of these. We got to really break the banks now. That's what this great reset is all about. Then we go straight into the central bank digital coins and get rid of those pesky bankers. Obama didn't do it right. This was during Obama's first term. Yeah, 2008. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, Soros had plans and Soros and the globalists. Well, here we are. Plan executed. Coronavirus, shutdown, lockdown. Wow. So, and I think Obama, like you said, if he can, I don't think Michelle would have been a good choice because that puts them back in the White House and back under the, you know, now they can play the shadows.

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Obama Third Term Jokes, Shadow Presidency, Kalorama House

Barack Obama's late-night television appearances are analyzed, specifically his jokes about a "third term" via an earpiece and his decision to stay in Washington D.C. after his presidency. The hosts argue this supports the theory of a "shadow presidency" operating from his home in the Kalorama neighborhood.

barack obama· stephen colbert· jimmy fallon· kalorama· washington dc

2:47:59 and you know basically run the message yeah Joe and Kamala are perfect either one will do Right, because Kamala's a Soros sister through and through. So, I mean, George is fine with that as well. But we have another clip. And I noticed something when that admission about the third term was on a late night show. And when Obama gets on a late night show, he gets very comfortable almost to a flaw because he just gets to start yapping. And these great things are not great for him. He goes a little bit too far. Yeah, he goes a little bit too far trying to be too cool. But we have clip 39. Are you happy in a way that are you glad that there there are term limits that that you're not being pressured? Yes. Well, you know, I

2:48:54 George Washington is one of our greatest presidents not just because he helped to lead the revolution but because he had the wisdom after two terms at the time there was no constitutional prohibition on him continuing and he He was being pressured by a lot of folks to say you're the only person who can hold this together and he had the wisdom to step back and say I do not want to set a precedent where I am president for life. And now, personally for me, if I were able to run for a third term, Michelle would divorce me. So it's useful that I don't have that choice to make. I know you have to leave, but can we keep her for another four years?

2:49:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I noticed Obama does, people always wonder why I kept talking about Obama in our previous shows. I always knew he would be the man that would, you know, be running the show. Oh, you, I mean, even everybody, every Hollywood producer knows you don't just do a blockbuster hit and one sequel. Right, you gotta keep coming. You got that brand, you got that brand moving. Yeah, of course, he's still young too. Yeah.

2:50:22 He was saying about Michelle Obama, she wouldn't be happy if she would divorce him. I noticed that he does this self-deprecating humor thing that he kowtows to her and the kids and he's like the lowliest guy in the family. And I don't know if that's... I know in society and television that the husband is the dumbest. So I don't know if he's playing into that or not. But I noticed he does this a lot. But speaking of Big Mesh, we have her and... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Question time. Because you and I, we talk sometimes, you know, during the week, we just catch up, we talk like... The other day I'm like, yeah, you're one of the only men I actually talk to. I don't have a lot of guy friends. But you would never speak publicly or privately about how your wife would kick your ass.

2:51:18 No. You would never do what Obama, nor would I. I mean, I may make, like on the Noah Jenner show, I'll make a joke sometimes, but you know, I would find it personally degrading towards my wife if I said, oh she kicked my ass. And I think you're the same. Is this typical or atypical of what Obama is doing in black culture regarding his wife? I think this is what is expected, but now we're having, and I mentioned this before, you've experienced it.

2:51:56 this revolution of black man is saying no longer. You know, I mean, we have to stand up and make decisions and be the head of household and it's making things very shaky in the black community because the black man, but it's leading to some of the aforementioned problems of dating and procreating. This gender war has real results and this thing that you see here, this happy wife, happy life kind of thing, it's an old philosophy, but I think it's becoming extinct. Or at least for certain men, you're having this clear divide of like, I have a vision for my life, I need a wife that matches my vision, and hopefully she shares my vision with me, and that's why she chose me. You know what I'm saying? I like the way he said it, you know? And, you know,

2:52:49 So you're having this change and we're going to talk about this more. In this show, and to be honest with you, the politics is pretty much set in stone at this point. We're going to start looking at more of the interpersonal relationships. Good. And I think that's a good question to answer later on as well. It's a very fluid situation right now, but I think there's an uprising. So it's changing. Black men everywhere. Well, no, because I was just thinking from the television standpoint, I would say Claire Huxtable ultimately had the upper hand. I would say, I'm just looking at Fresh Prince of Bel-Air was kind of the dumb judge dad. Right, right. Now that's not any different black or white, it's just I just, you know, the way Obama is... It's to disable all the patriarchy. Yeah, okay, yeah there you go, because he just does it all the time. Oh, marry up! I'm married up!

2:53:47 Yeah, you hear him that He married up, but he's the president. But yeah that kind of thing. Okay But he has to say that to cater to his base as well because we saw who the base was may flake I gotta give it to black women. They pulled it off You had a mission accomplished now you pulled it off but you have to all everything the strollers they have to all everything that comes with it now, um but Michelle loves the spotlight and from this next clip, 40, we're gonna actually see her just relish in the spotlight. Here's Michelle Obama talking at Temple University. Doubters, I know you have everything it takes to succeed. I know that you are me. And if I can be standing here as your forever first lady.

2:54:44 Forever, forever, forever So you are my first lady And it means so much to me We watch you push up, you help us stay up And you raise a family If there's any doubt in Verizon's mind Who was that? Some guys on YouTube. And the reason why I put that there, they actually... It's a song called Forever My Lady. Yeah. So they did Forever First Lady and people embrace this. You hear the crowds when... I'm sure they did. Yeah, of course.

2:55:38 Well, we know she's one of the three on the wall. We know where she is. Yes, she is. So, hey, you got to put some respect on that. But she came out and said forever First Lady. So she embraces the role. Oh, yeah. She doesn't like the spotlight of the White House. But I think she's all on board for this shadow presidency that they did. And for people that think that's a far stretch to say a shadow president, Why do they stay in DC? Yeah. All right. So we're going to get answer to that on Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show. And I read on the Internet, I believe everything on the Internet. And I read that you guys are moving. You guys are moving like two miles away from the White House. We will be staying in D.C. because my younger daughter will still be in school. And the idea of

2:56:35 Her having to transfer schools, move to a new city halfway through high school would not make me popular. Yeah. I thought you were going to be like that kid that graduated high school and just never left. Like, hey guys, how you doing? Yeah. It is a little depressing if you kind of you're like the old guy at the disco, right? I'm still here. Having a kegger on the East Lawn, everybody. All right, all right, all right. No, you gotta leave. You have to go, sir. People whispering, he's still here. What do we say to him? Somebody talk to him. All right, so here's the part of the show where I do my space jam stretch. Do I have to get a theremin out here or are we gonna be on? Please do it, please do it. I was thinking we might just be, all right everybody.

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Egyptian Symbolism in DC, Anthony Browder, The Washington Monument

Historian Anthony Browder explains the Egyptian architectural influences in Washington D.C., identifying the Washington Monument as a "Tekken" (obelisk) representing the resurrection of Asar. He also discusses the National Museum of African American History and Culture's design, which incorporates a 17-degree angle matching the pyramids of Giza.

anthony browder· kemet· obelisk· tekken· giza pyramids

2:57:29 Alright, we know how Washington DC is set up on Egyptian plans and measurements. Plans, measurements, culture, everything. And to solidify that point, I have Anthony T. Browder here, but before I let him share his information, my hypothesis is that Barack Obama is playing some kind of weird Pharaoh role-play for these people. Okay, so what you're saying is the the OG's the Illuminati boule etc who of course run the world who are all part of these Masonic Freemason numerology geometric shapes obelisks domes scepters all all the stuff that we see in in any

2:58:26 capital of power but Washington DC in particular the way it's let out hello Washington Monument and that these people actually are really into that and Obama's LARPing Yeah, I can believe it. I like it. And he's a little building on his island. I mean like hello. Yeah, really into this stuff Yeah, and and he's he can have the bit of that Egyptian vibe. He kind of fits that Pharaoh type thing Well, we're gonna see here in a minute, but now Anthony T Brown a little bit about him he's an author publisher publisher culture historian artist and educational consultant and

2:59:09 He's had 52 times, he's traveled to Egypt since 1980 and he was the first African American to fund and coordinate an archaeological dig in Egypt. So he has standing, to say the least. He's going to tell us about ancient Kemen, aka Egypt, and Washington, D.C. I've lived in D.C. for 47 years. And in 1986, I created the Egypt, what is now the Egypt on the Potomac field trip. in which I identified here in Washington, D.C., architectural symbols that are directly related to similar architectural symbols in ancient Egypt. Symbols that refer to the history, the culture, the philosophy, the mythology of the oldest documented civilization on earth.

2:59:57 So, it's clear to anybody with eyes to see that the most prominent African symbol in the United States of America is the so-called Washington Monument. I say so-called Washington Monument because that is what we've been socialized to believe it is, a monument that honors George Washington, first president of the United States. But that monument is not an obelisk. Obelisk is a Greek word. That monument is a Tekken. Tekken is an African word that identifies the resurrection of Asar. Who was Asar? Asar was the founding father, the first president of Kemet, if you will. And the symbol of his resurrection is the Tekken. So the Tekken then is the oldest symbol of resurrection known to mankind.

3:00:42 It is a symbol that represents the resurrection of an African man and inside of the so-called Washington Monument is a symbol above the elevator and plaque of George Washington that makes that direct cultural reference. I'm so happy you're doing this. I love this stuff. It's like Dan Brown at the end of the MoFact show. I love that. So the Washington Monument is built on astrological signs that certain days it illuminates the obelisk at a certain point on certain solstice. They're all into this stuff.

3:01:27 They are all the elites are all into this. So it's not a far stretch. I mean down to George Washington. I mean all the way back. So now you fast forward to Barack Obama. You have the phallic symbol now you have 43 and lastly. The latest African symbol in DC is the exterior of the National Museum of African American History and Culture. That building consists of three inverted pyramids, which they refer to as the corona. And that corona is a stylized version of the caryatid in a Yoruba shrine.

3:02:09 But in point of fact, these three inverted pyramids are symbolic of the three pyramids of Giza. The inverted pyramid is a symbolic representation of the womb, the feminine source of creation. And the National Museum of African-American History and Culture is directly across the street from Asar's monument, which is a masculine symbol of procreation. And the angle of the Corona on the exterior of the National Museum of African American History and Culture is an angle of 17 degrees. And that 17 degree angle perfectly matches the angle of the Pyramidion on top of Asar's Monument.

3:02:52 British-Ghanaian architect who designed that building, designed that building with the understanding, as he stated in a newspaper interview, that Washington DC is Carnac on the Potomac. Oh man! This is great! I'm looking at a picture of this thing now, it's like, oh! Why was I not alerted to this? This is fantastic! This is a new... So how do you build that, how do you build that knowing Obama's coming to fulfill the role? And like you said, they say that's the womb. That's where all your new social ideas are coming from. And if you don't believe me, this comes from the Ingram angle, tokenism, whiteness, and the African American History Museum.

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African American History Museum, Whiteness Website, Cultural Values

The hosts discuss a controversial section of the National Museum of African American History's website regarding "whiteness." The site reportedly listed traits like "rational linear thinking," "hard work," and "the nuclear family" as aspects of white culture. The hosts mock the idea that these universal values are exclusive to one race.

laura ingraham· smithsonian· whiteness· nuclear family· scientific method

3:03:50 When the National Museum of African American History in DC first opened its doors to the public, President Obama was there to commemorate it. Perhaps it can help a white visitor understand the pain and anger of demonstrators in places like Ferguson. But it can also help black visitors appreciate the fact that Not only is this younger generation carrying on traditions of the past, but within the white communities across the nation, we see the sincerity of law enforcement officers and officials. Imagine a Democrat saying that today. He or she would be thrown out of the party for that level of nuance.

3:04:34 Well, now, instead of being a symbol of progress and reconciliation, the museum has embraced the radical left's language of racial retribution, all to cast America as irredeemably racist and an evil country. And you, the American taxpayer, are funding it. Isn't that neat? Now, the museum now has a website dedicated to explaining the concept of whiteness and why it's the root cause of racism and oppression in America today. According to the website, the normalization of white racial identity throughout America's history has created a culture where non-white persons are seen as inferior or abnormal.

3:05:12 And when they say whiteness, they don't just mean skin color, but also people who value things like individualism, a stable nuclear family, the scientific method, rational linear thinking, hard work, Christianity, and being polite. Well, this will not stand. All that's white. Can we go through that list one more time? Being polite. Being polite. Being polite, logic. Hold on, it's rational thinking. Let's do the list. Rational thinking. Let me roll it back and get that last bit there. And when they say whiteness, they don't just mean skin color, but also people who value things like individualism, a stable nuclear family, the scientific method, rational linear thinking, hard work, Christianity, and being polite. Sorry, Mo, you're none of those things. You can't participate.

3:06:09 Hard work, nuclear family, all the things that would help solve our problem. Solve anyone's problems. Rationals. And politeness. Oh my goodness. That goes to show you they're not about, they... Hey, before you go into your last clip, I just wanted to say something. I'm 56, so I've learned a couple of things. I've been places, done some stuff. the power of belief and making something real for yourself, it really does work. I mean I'm doing something again now with Podcasting 2.0 and I can feel it, I can taste it, I can see it and it becomes reality. I think the elites really have figured something out. You know if you

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

Akhenaten and Nefertiti Parallel, King Tut, Show Sign-off

The episode concludes with a comparison between the Obamas and the revolutionary Pharaoh Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti. The hosts play a CNN clip noting Obama's resemblance to King Tut and discuss Akhenaten's shift toward monotheism (the Aten). The show ends with Thin Lizzy's "The Boys Are Back in Town" as the closing theme.

akhenaten· nefertiti· king tut· zahi hawass· thin lizzy

3:07:04 If you literally build these symbols and the symbolism is built into it, you're putting a lot of belief into these structures. And I think it creates stuff. It does make things happen. Yeah, it manifests. Your thoughts manifest. Really, but I think when you put it into buildings and mathematics and you throw your astrological stuff in there, man, that's got to be some powerful mojo. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. They do it for a reason. They've been doing it for a long time. Millennia now, so It is something to it and speaking of a symbol now you said Barack Obama could fit the Pharaoh type of Mode right? Yeah, he can totally fit the bill

3:07:53 All right, CNN clip 45. Out of many, one. Many wanted to be the one to get the best spot at the photo op with Presidents Obama and Mubarak. Of course, the visual highlight was, no, not him. It was the president touring the pyramids outside and in. Purification, mummification. Self-identification. That looks like me. Separated at birth from a hieroglyphic, But the president's guide saw another resemblance. He should know about King Tut. Dr. Sahih Hawass oversaw scans of Tut's mummy that produced this likeness. Though President Obama tends to skip the eye makeup,

3:08:41 The president's trip inspired Egyptians to display decorations calling Obama the new King Tut of the world. But even the new King Tut couldn't budge a pyramid. Still, it's good practice for trying to push peace in the Mideast. Ginnie Moe, CNN, New York. Oh man, have you ever seen those pictures? Yeah. Oh wow. But it's not King Tut that he's supposed to be. No. He's playing the role of Akhenaten. No, I thought Cleopatra. Or maybe just got it wrong. No, it's Akhenaten and Michelle are playing the role of Nefertiti. And this clip, this last clip, and I'll explain on the back side of this. But this clip explaining who Akhenaten and Nefertiti are comes from the Smithsonian Channel. The Pharaoh Akhenaten. When Akhenaten came to power, he started making some fairly radical changes.

3:09:40 Egyptian religion has always been strongly polytheistic so many different gods were worshipped. Akhenaten decided to deny the existence of those gods. His people would worship just one god through him. That would be the light of the sun. He called it the Aten. Akhenaten seems to have had a moment of truth, of seeing that all of these other forms of divinity that people so liked It really had no substance. There's nothing you can see except what is man-made. The only form of power that you can't really understand is the sun, and it's there. You can see it, and that's all that matters. So though he's a king, Akhenaten is a revolutionary. His changes send a shockwave through Egypt.

3:10:35 To the ancient Egyptians, simply to say that there was one God and none of the others existed would have profoundly affected the understanding that Egyptians had of their whole environment and their whole cosmos. Traditional Egyptian religion had functioned by by pairing a male god with a female goddess who in turn create an offspring. And that engendering ensures the recreation of the world every day. Now, with those gods abolished, Akhenaten and Nefertiti took their roles for themselves.

3:11:16 Oh man, oh, okay Mo, alright. Now I got some more homework to do. Thank you. Now I gotta go look at these jumeaux. And the one guy they're ushering in now? Science. And it's not even real science, cause they don't... No, no, it's not. Linear thought, all that, no, no. Wow. Okay. Alright, we're screwed now. We, we gotta, I got, I got some reading up to do. That's good Mo. Yeah, so that's what they're doing there. It's just bringing that... Okay, so how does it end with these two? Akhenaten and his wife? I think they end up being... They return... I think... They plundered the land for a hundred years? Right, pretty much.

3:12:11 Well now that's what we have to look forward to. Unless, unless, you know, podcasting could change the world. You never know. If we can think it, if we can manifest it, we can make it come true. So their whole point is the ursua in science. This is why you have the churches closing everything. I mean it doesn't make any sense. Logically it doesn't make any sense to leave bars open and close churches. Of course not. Makes no sense at all. Of course not. But you gotta remove the old gods. And also science. You gotta remove the old gods. If you listen to the words, Joe Biden said it himself, I will listen to science as if science is a thing that speaks and it is inherently not. Science is a thing that is to be continuously questioned.

3:12:58 At least back in the old days. You would think, but their version of science is this is what we've calculated. Just believe it. There's no scientific method to it. We had to prove and test your theory. Jesus! Do you think that it's possible for them to do a just a repeat of these of these days in these ages and that people will respond in kind of the same ways? Will we be in fact be enslaved to build modern-day pyramids? Well, I mean if you believe the Calergy plan and how they said that They wanted all people to look like the the Egyptians of that time. We're head there Hmm

3:13:42 All of this crap connects in this, like I said, I don't think, I don't, let's be clear people. I don't think he's a really a Pharaoh, but to these people, these, this was on CNN. And I had another clip saying the exact same thing, I think from CBS. They made it clear that, oh, he looks like King Tut. Oh, he looks like King Tut. He looks like an Egyptian pharaoh. They hyped this up. And then you have the building of the African American Museum. Yeah, that seals it for me. Right. And then for the Smithsonian. Oh, man. All right. Now I got to go spend the rest of my day figuring this out. I'm sorry about that. No, I love it. I love it. Mo, we got a lot of cool things happening in this in 2021. I feel this is this is your year for sure. We got a lot to look forward to and I'm excited to see what you're going to be doing and and also how we expand Mo Facts with Adam Curry. And I know it's I'm excited. I'm excited to see it all happen.

3:14:47 We got a lot of things to do, but in the meantime, as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And now I know why you picked this song. Because they are back, baby! The boys. Barry and Mike. Hey Moe, talk to you on the next show? Alright, talk to you later Adam. Okay, remember you can find us at moefax.com and if you'd like to support it moefundme.com. See you next time. I'm Adam Curry with Moe Fax. I'm a wild-eyed boy that's been away Haven't changed, had much to say But man, I still think them cats are crazy They were asking if I knew how you was Where you could be found I told them you were living downtown Driving all the old men crazy

3:15:44 The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town. The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town. The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town. The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town. The boy in the back is tired again

3:16:44 We're hanging down at the most. We're falling for fake and sound again.