The discussion turns to "quasi-police" agents like Haitian Jack, who was linked to Tupac Shakur, and the FBI's "six-week cycle" of stoking low-IQ individuals into committing crimes to "save the day." The hosts suggest that provocateurs are used to muddy the waters of legitimate movements. They revisit the Masonic Police story, noting that the suspects had official police equipment and weapons despite their "crackpot" reputation.