Author Lerone Bennett Jr. details Abraham Lincoln's persistent efforts from 1852 until his death to deport Black people to Africa, South America, or the Caribbean. In 1862, Lincoln proposed constitutional amendments to fund the colonization of Black people, envisioning the United States as a "white haven" for free white people from around the world. The hosts argue that Lincoln believed Black and white people could never live in equality, and his desire to remove Black labor was a tactic to punish the Southern white elite.