18: Shero to Zero

00:11 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for December 16th, 2019. This is episode number 18 Hey Mo! How you doing Adam? I am doing good man. I missed you last week. I know man Life comes at you fast and hard but we're back in the saddle Yeah, we did it. I was all over the world You know throwing people in ovens That's a bad joke. Yeah, it's pretty bad joke but we are back and a lot of people were Jones in man like oh How come I need more facts? And he said more faxes We've got him hooked now if we can just get them to realize that this is a value for value Proposition and people need to support the show would be even better So do check out mo fax calm or go to Mo fund me calm M o e fund me calm

01:01 And as always I am super excited to find out what you've lined up for us today Mo. So first of all, for the people that have contributed and supported um...I would like to say thank you having got back to the emails. I like to send personally send out emails thanking people mm-hmm just so they don't feel like it's a form like responding back to them so i'm a little behind on that but appreciate all the well wishes and wondering where we're at and while we were apart Ms. Kamala Harris exits the 2020 race." Yes, she does! So the Democratic playing field just lost another candidate Senator Kamala Harris announced she's suspending her campaign here is what she said about it It is with deep regret but also with deep gratitude that I am suspending our campaign today But I want to be clear with you...I'm still very much in this fight

01:56 And I will keep fighting every day for what this campaign has been about. Justice for the people, all the people." Mm-hmm! Yes it was a dark day when Kamala dropped out and Moe...I didn't know what to do. I danced a little jig. Okay. And the tone is set to give it, to give a little history. Uh, Kamala Harris and my stepping into the podcast there are commentating aligned because I'll tell the story just shortly briefly but with the Jussie Smollett is how I started voicing

02:42 what I've seen, what I saw and kind of predicting how it happened. And you know that the whole anti-lynching bill and her role in that on Justice Mother's House is what kinda pulled me out of the shadows to have a public voice. Yeah this is true both Kamala Harris had an anti lynching bill which felt kinda like an anachronism anyway in this day and age but was a literal anti lynching bill Cory Booker was all in on it And the coincidence of the Jesse Smollett so-called lynching and that bill was not something to be overlooked. Yes, and this is how I got MoFax started and now we're here today We did a show previously on Kamala Harris and Charlamagne Tha Gard talking about how

03:34 apparatus, the media apparatus was protecting Kamala and how she was really the chosen one for 2020. And she blew it! Yeah and right out of the gate with a debate she immediately attacked frontrunner Joe Biden...and I think what happened is Tulsi Gabbard slipped in there? That threw her off balance it looks like. Yeah but it started way before then so this show we're gonna investigate and expose the whole campaign from beginning to end. Nice! So I'm using The View as a backdrop just from the beginning here... And why not use The View for some historical context? It's such a great show, I love it!

04:22 jumping off point because you had nothing but women and she was being the top one female candidate. If you want to say Elizabeth Warren, maybe it's a coin toss between those two but just the different pockets of support on that show I find very interesting so Miss Sunny Hostin was a bit upset over Kamala dropping out My biggest issue was her, I didn't think that she connected to voters as well as she could have. That moment in the debate where she went after Joe Biden... She thought that was her big moment and a lot of the media talked about it being a big moment for her. I thought that just totally fell flat and if anything it did the opposite of what she was hoping it would do. Well eventually yeah, it didn't help her. I'm not surprised at all by this frankly If you're not winning your home state then probably shouldn't be winning for president

05:12 It didn't fall flat for me. I think she spoke to a lot of the issues that matter to me, um...I was disappointed actually that she dropped out and had to suspend her campaign and i think that you know there's no question that there were obviously problems with her campaign, I think they're obviously financial problems but I don't think you can look at without also looking at the fact that as a woman of color, she also faced unprecedented sexism compounded by racism. As well as a female candidate of color and I think it's just surprising that there are people that are still in the race facing issues that are still in the race

05:57 Yeah, this wasn't deconstructed much in the mainstream. I saw some of course some Fox News people were doing it but to say that sexism and racism was part of the demise of her campaign is to call Democrats because that's what this is It's a preliminary hits to see who's going to be the nominee. It was basically calling Democratic voters racist and sexist. Yeah, yes and it's the combination You see, it's the combination because you still have Cory Booker hanging on for dear life. Right He's black allegedly and you have um... And he is probably the only Ados guy around to be honest. He has got something going on. Then you have Elizabeth Warren which is a female then you have Amy Klobuchar which is a female so To make this excuse and this was very Hillary-esque Yes

06:59 The whole excuse making, I mean soon as she announced they had the canned excuses ready and why she didn't win. And it was very reminiscent of 2016 when Hillary lost to Trump right? So the ladies at The View They start to get a little catty.

07:39 polling. I do that was just done yesterday Kamala had 5% of the vote in national poll it put her in sixth place Amy Klobuchar and Tulsi Gabbard had 2%. The poll had Andrew Yang at 4%, even today there is a poll that has her, had Harris at 6%. She's been steady actually not trending downward. Remain she has less money? Does she have less money than Amy? What does that mean? Can I finish please? I'm actually not finished speaking, but that's fine. Does she have less money than Kamala? Well, that's Joy Behar my favorite in the background and she is asking the right question does she have any money? That was why she had to shut down. I presume campaigns shut down because they're out of money

08:28 And what's the strange part about this is you would think Kamala and money would not be the issue. Right? Going into this election, she was touted as the Silicon Valley candidate. Yes! Not only that I think she was a Soros sister to some degree You'd... Of the highest order. Yeah, exactly! She was the big dog on campus so you know thank you for bringing this up because I don't know if if you have any answers to this but what happened? Did the money just dry up or there were speculations she was doing this to become a VP and maybe even that she would be Biden's VP there was a lot of different speculation rumors going around well money can't buy love

09:19 That's the problem. And the love that she needed was from the black vote, and she sucked at getting... That was the whole... Okay. Kamala was constructed to be Obama 2.0. Correct the whole blueprint. She checked all the boxes and she even had one thing that Obama couldn't have, and that's being a female. So this was like kind of you show up... I think she thought she could just show up in a nomination with hers because she could just

09:58 Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. To say this country has not proven the opposite of what you're saying I think is factually wrong. So when you, at some point you gotta look in the mirrors to Canada and say maybe it's me? Maybe I'm struggling to connect with voters, maybe I am not giving them what they want to hear. Well actually Abby, there is just no question that we did have a black president twice and I think that's wonderful but I think the election of President Trump may prove my point

10:42 Wow, they're confused over there at the view. It was white lash Abby! That's what it was Yeah, yeah. That's the argument Sonny is making it was white lash But how can she say this and somehow that Trump is responsible for Democrats hating black people? Is that the idea? It makes no sense It makes no sense at all but

11:32 There's sunny is a huge Kamala fan. Yes, huge huge And they I was reading the socials and you should have seen some of the conspiracy theories that were floating around or why? Kamala dropped out at a race. Okay. I mean it was going like Alright so here white Twitter My hood was, ah clearly this is some deal. She's gonna be vice president she's working behind the scenes and maybe that's what I heard about Kamala. AG as well. AG was the other one she's going to be the AG Oh, AG yes! Yes yeah I did hear that one Yeah That was good too But they it caught her fans and i'ma use that word correctly Fans off guard because they thought they could limp into South Carolina

12:27 really make waves with the black vote? and show their worth. Now there was one other data point I'm just remembering now, people were leaving her campaign and they were writing public letters of resignation and saying it's a mess and there's no leadership and then i think right after one of her main boots on the ground campaign managers left for Bernie I believe that's when it all started to fall apart And it was 50, five zero unnamed sources. But Sonny wasn't trying to hear that because I was continuing on and where I clipped this from they-that topic came up and she wasn't trying to hear that like unnamed sources. I mean like oh now the unnamed source don't mean anything. I mean we've been... Of course! For the past three years we've been going off of unnamed source but all of a sudden now... Yes people familiar with the matter. Yeah people familiar with the matter

13:30 Yes, so what I was alluding to before was Kamala Harris and I don't think anybody uses term before it was the intersectionality candidate. She was like a quilt put together. Yeah, oh yeah we talked about this even I think yes she was the intersectionality candidate yes all the all the she ticked all the boxes man! Yeah black female smart accomplished but but a feminist seen as a feminist of smart with tough

14:07 With a little splash of Indian. She was everything to everybody, similar to Obama when you looked at her. Everything to everybody but it was... The multi-culti candidate of the future But that with just like a quilt is only stronger than threads that hold it together So what we're going to talk about now is I have a little background from Miss Kimberley Crenshaw, and she's actually the creator of the term intersectionality. And she's gonna explain it for us

14:43 Intersectionality is just a metaphor for understanding the ways that multiple forms of inequality or disadvantage sometimes compound themselves and they create obstacles that often are not understood within conventional ways of thinking about anti-racism, feminism, whatever social justice advocacy structures we have. Intersectionality isn't so much a grand theory it's a prism for understanding certain kinds of problems Hmm. So she created the term, but she can't clearly define it. I was going to say did I miss something or just not quite understand what she was saying? Basically it's something you never think of. It's not logical and it's hard to understand but it's the problem so as always do I dig for definitions from both sides of the spectrum

15:36 And from the right-hand side or the more conservative side, I went to one Mr. Ben Shapiro to define intersectionality for us." Good 42 seconds and he'll do a minute's worth of talking. You probably think your opinions matter you probably think you're an individual with unique experiences thoughts and ambitions Well, I hate to break it to you but according to current leftist orthodoxy, you're wrong. You see your opinion only matters relative to your identity and where that identity ranks on the hierarchy of intersectionality If you're now thinking what the hell are we talking about? You haven't spent much time on a modern college campus Intersectionality is a form of identity politics in which the value of your opinion depends on how many victim groups you belong to

16:23 At the bottom of the totem pole is the person everybody loves to hate, The straight white male. And who's at the top? Well it's very hard to say because new groups claim victim status all the time no one can keep track. Well at least I know where i am that's good news. I'm one rung up on that ladder for you sir so don't feel too bad oh okay Oh well thats good yeah One rung up without the privilege so im really sorry I'm happy for you, Mo. So that's what intersectionality is from the conservative side is like kind of like the victim Olympics who can claim the most merit badges. Merit Badges! That's a good way to look at it

17:15 He goes on to further define or explain how the intersectionality works within the group. How does this intersectionality thing play out? Something like this, let's say you're a gay white woman your opinion matters but less than that of a gay black woman why because while all women are oppressed by the patriarchy and all gays are oppressed by the heterosexual majority blacks have a victim status that whites obviously don't Of course, a gay black woman's victim status is less than that of a black trans woman who ranks below a black Muslim trans woman and so on. The more memberships you can claim in oppressed groups the more aggrieved you are and the higher your rank get it? Good! Okay yeah you're right it is married badges but hold on a second Kamala Harris had a lot of married badges Yes yes she did but she uh

18:06 She was a jack of all trades, but you know what's that king of none? Jack of all trades master of none. Master of None yes so that was her problem she had almost too many merit badges to be loyal to one thing she had all the badges couldn't sell the cookies couldn't sell the cookie mm-hmm yep got it We have to figure out how do we get here? Why did the Democrats feel like they needed a intersectionality candidate so we have to go back to 2016. Miss Simone Sanders

18:46 currently works for Bernie isn't she with Joe Biden oh no Joe but I'm so confused she was with Bernie before she worked with Bernie in 2016 right yeah yes she's gonna tell us about the Democratic leadership Howard Dean you know how are things after that 50-state strategy but here's the issue Howard Dean Howard Dean is also on record maligning young people and millennials, telling those Bernie folks they just need to get in line and maligning Bernie Sanders. And that is not what we need, my opinion. We don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now. The Democratic Party is diverse and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the highest levels from the vice chairs through the secretaries all the way down to the people working in the offices at the DNC I think we need to have a robust discussion about this and I think we need

19:33 from all the candidates. Jamie Harrison in South Carolina, he's great too! He has done real party building but everybody doesn't necessarily know Jamie and they want to know what it is that he stands for so I want to hear more from everybody. I'm here for the Millennials and the Brown folks." You know she could easily be a topic for another show. I find her very intriguing she rubs me the wrong way i'll tell you that right off the bat but she's very intriguing She's a very interesting character and it's amazing how she clamors for non-white male representation but her two candidates she worked on... Old white dudes. ...is white males! Yeah, that is interesting A lot of these people they talk out their side of the neck They don't even believe what they say If you really think about what she just said

20:25 She said that they need to have non-white male representation and coming out of 2016, I'm gonna make this very clear. Everybody listen before they get triggered the black female political class over inflated their worth to Democratic Party we talked about this on a previous show you mean they're worth there are very important in size of number of votes you mean Well, I'm talking about the political class. I'm talking about the pundits. I'm talking about candidates those people yeah because you need to vote you and that's what The political class thought they could deliver up To the Democratic Party which may Kamala the front-runner for 2020 Which made black women come out of 2016 like see this is why you need us right talking about the political class and

21:26 They only were further emboldened by 2018 when they had the special election in Mississippi and the Democratic Party lauded them with all the praise. And I said this before, and I'll say it again kind of stroke their ego. An that's why so hard now that the carriage has turned back to a pumpkin. And you know with Simone Sanders To me, you know she talks this big game but you're right the only two candidates she's worked for that I know of is Biden and Bloomberg. Bernie! Oh Bernie and Bloomberg i'm sorry was she just a token to be in there kind of like well you'll handle the black vote do you think? Is that the vibe you got about her about her role

22:17 I'm gonna say this, that's what a lot of their jobs are. And people can get pissed off about it but it's like to the Democratic Party If you can't bring the black vote, what good are you? That's the problem why Kamala Harris is out of the race right now. They're looking at her like, You had one job! All apparatus will bring you... Just be female and black Can you do that please? That's it Because all apparatus will bring you half the country just by natural how politics work Right But what we need you to do is bring that 90, 92%, 3% black vote. Get it turned out back to 66% down from 59 in 2016. We need you to give us that 7% uptake and we got this thing and what she did was not only not be able to deliver the 67%. She might have made it worse. Yeah

23:18 And we're going to talk about that even more. But now, we come to the part of the show where we really have to go back and we have to talk about the boulé. Oh hell yeah! A word often used around The Curry household So with the boulé We have to clearly define it and we have to go back to the source The man that broke it to the knowledge of this. clandestine group to the average black man, Mr. Steve Coakley. And we have now stepped forward to have a discussion about the Black Male Secret Society known as Sigma Pi Phi, acronym The BULLE. We will do our best to show you the information related to The BULLE. That's what this lecture is about

24:16 I could give the entire lecture and quote every inch of the documentation without looking at it. responsibility my night to show you the information so that you could look at it with me and double affirm the fact that Much of our black press as much as we like it Has not been honest in talking about this group of black men or they respected very highly and never speak negatively against It well, that would be the same collusion. We see with all elites in the media Of course That's not going to be discussed

24:55 So he goes even further in the second clip that we have when we talk about Boolay. We're not just talking about the one fraternity that he listed, the Sigma Pi Phi. We're talking about it's a broad network of different groups, similar to the Illuminati. I mean you have the Council for Relation, you have the Trilateral Commission, you have...I mean you just have these different groups that are interconnected by the membership of those groups that form this web and it's the same way in the black community and that being the Greek fraternities and sororities that make up

25:43 the quote-unquote larger group of the bullae. And all the Greeks, the Alpha, the Omega and the Sigma, show you right. The AKA, the Zeta, the Sigma Gamma Rho and the Delta they will all be informed publicly please do not have a public manifestation of the Greek thing don't have a big dinner Don't have a big reception. Don't put it in the paper that you're coming because I suggest to you that we're going to start to visit you at your things and ask you to prove your Greek thing on the spot

26:29 So we make a suggestion that we're in the process of penetrating a group of circles and that these circles are webs which are numerous organizations just beyond the boulay. So Mo, remind us again who Steve Coakley is? Steve Coakley he was... He's passed away now was a futurologist He commented extensively on water conservation, organic farming and communal living. He gave over 5,000 lectures on the topic of global warming, corporate conspiracies... Oh he's a denier! ...and the trial out of permission.

27:14 Nice. And he really spoke about the Bilderberg group, Rothschilds Rockefellers and what he's claimed to fame is the Boullée. Joe, Moe why don't you say he's the black Alex Jones that's what he is? He just needs a megaphone okay good good good good and he's the one that really broke the news of the bullet to the consciousness and I had this, I made this point before a lot of this information was captured on VHS tapes in these small meetings you know in back of black bookstores but when we had YouTube come about it gave it a platform where it could spread like wildfire. Right mainly the old VHS stuff that he had that was just being repurposed

28:05 Yes, and that's how we caught up to modern day times. I mean when he was doing this with this was like the late 80s early 90s Yeah When he was giving these speeches but when YouTube came about and people started really getting into conspiracy theories in that Illuminati do you start searching these things? And it became more common knowledge taxing and NASA think that's why their boule is really having slippage of with their control mechanism that they have over the black community because information is the counter to control. So these people have been crowned! The reason why I bring up DeBoulle, not only did she have the feminist backing she had corporate Silicon Valley backing

29:03 She also had the Bouley backing. So I mean, it was a perfect combo. Perfect combo all the elements were there she had everything because even Obama didn't have the boule back and reason why say to Boulay backing is she was a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha which is a black sorority or female sorority. That's what that said. Oh that was redundant but yes, he took a black sorority And she had, as I say again, she had the backing of all her Greek brothers and sisters which make up The Boulay. And you can hear this support by Mr Benjamin Crump introducing her at the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc conference. When my six year old daughter Brooklyn Zeta-Crump asked me daddy can a woman be the president of the United States?

30:04 I can look at her from the bottom of my heart and say, yes you can. Because Senator Kamala Harris is now blazing a trail to make this a real possibility for you and all the beautiful little princesses all over America. And for that we all applaud you Senator Harris! That is why at this leadership conference, where we are focused on civic engagement and leadership in the community that I'm excited and appreciative that the senator has asked me to advise her campaign on criminal justice reform. To better serve our community. Okay Ben Crump lawyer

31:07 We've discussed him on the show before. Ah yes, his association with George Zimmerman The Trayvon Martin. Okay, right. The Botham Jean shooting he was saying he's all the major cop killings He shows up. Yeah, he shows up. He's in the background but it's funny now that he is willing to work with a prosecutor Whereas his fought against that. His fought against law enforcement as a seeker of justice and now he's all in hmm interesting It's very interesting. So we see how these groups make strange bedfellows, but I'll let Mr. Crump continue in clip two. But it's not just me she is excited to hear from all of us on how we can better repair a criminal justice system that disproportionately and Lord knows I know disproportionately affects our community

32:10 I hope that you will join me in supporting her and advising her, being open and honest with her on how to make this criminal justice system treat our children more fairly. You see she's somebody who would listen we have a lot of leaders who talk down to us but Senator Kamala Harris will talk to us And that's so important in these days and times. So you can hear him already doing a cleanup for her criminal justice past? Oh, yes of course of course prosecutor passed. So this is why he's like she'll listen to us and please be honest with her and it just keeps going on but which was part of her now we need to bring it up It was part of her downfall

33:12 That was the Tulsi Gabbard attack, hey man you put all these black guys predominantly in jail for weed and then you went on Charlemagne The Guard show and you were laughing about smoking weed even though you were lying because you were all off with your dates of album releases etc. What Tulsi did was just put dirt on the casket. Kamala was a dead woman walking metaphorically, I say that because out the gate her campaign was torpedoed but let's listen to Mr. Crump and his final clip on Kamala. Brothers and sisters, I introduce you this trailblazer

34:06 This history maker, this lady of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. This fighter! This front runner! This visionary leader! This shero to all the little girls across America especially little girls of color The senator from the great of California My friend none other than senator Kamala Harris the next president She a she wrote. She's a she wrote I hadn't heard that one like she wrote She wrote she wrote Okay, so she had all the backing of

34:51 She got all the Greek backing. I mean, they're all in for it because they know this thing is ready to go." It's like Moe if you and i were running this campaign we'd be like what did we do wrong? We had everything in place-all the pieces of the puzzle! That's why was such a kick in his stomach for her to resign because it was unbelievable even as she struggled out the gate It was always a belief, we can correct this thing. If we just get to South Carolina I'll keep bringing up South Carolina because South Carolina is the litmus test for the black vote

35:29 And why is this? I'm not familiar with this. Because it has a huge black population and it's one of the first democratic primaries in an estate with a large African American, I can't even say the words, African American population. Okay got it So they take the litmus test and say okay because our vote whether we realize or not It's very valuable to the Democratic Party. We don't realize that and that's my hope, I'm gonna beat this drum until it won't be any more. That's why we have to barter our vote for what our demands are and that's how politics work but Kamala she makes her announcement at Howard University,

36:27 And she's surrounded by all her sisters from the AKA. And The View covers it, I'm sorry sorry that AKA yes this alpha cow. That's hers her sorority OK. Sororities get out of The View Of course they're all over it. Diversity in the media is a hot topic shockingly After White House Washington Post reporter Chelsea Jaynes covered Senator Kamala Harris' speech at Harris's alma mater at Howard University. Now the speech was attended by the AKA sorority that Harris pledged in college who gave her their trademark Ski-Wi call and it prompted the reporter

37:09 to tweet members of her Howard sorority are in the room and screeched when she mentioned her time there. Did not expect to hear screeches there She was immediately kind of called out on social media for not knowing about the skiweed So question is, was she the right person? To cover the event Was that-was the reporter the right person to cover the event is that the question Yes. They had the wrong shill, didn't follow the memo? That was a demand! You need to have black coverage of our black candidate. That's what this message was being sent. You're not culturally knowledgeable... You're just doing it wrong. Right. And this is the constant flexing

38:10 Political class, bullae class saying they really were just like really flexing their muscles and making demands. So much so now we have Sonny from the original clip that one is very perturbed and pissed off about Kamala losing. This is when Kamala first made her announcement and listen to what she has to say about it. I mean, put into context right? I'm a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha today is our founders day that's why I'm wearing a sweatshirt this says 1908

38:46 I thought that was the day you were born for a second. Yeah, no 1908 is when we were founded today is our Founders Day We were founded 111 years ago where the first black sorority that was founded That was not a great one because my voice and what was shocking to me Was if you are the reporter following Kamala Harris then at Howard Howard University where our sorority was founded you should know that she's a member you should know that are that is our sorority calls and we were right pink and green didn't know that she must not have it sound I thought right he just didn't know the screech um I don't know if she said members of her sorority. I mean, you would think skeewees are called...I could see where you might not know that little detail i mean not every reporter knows every single thing but the entire room is doing it

39:34 remember just to try to I mean this is something that i think you should know Michelle Obama's an aka. I mean this is not rocket science and the interesting thing is, and the reason there isn't aka because black women weren't allowed to join white sororities in 1908 oh this is fascinating okay let me give you uh... an analogy for The Screech at the first time you go to a Bruce Springsteen concert Nah, I don't know if you've ever been Moe. But you go to a Bruce Springsteen concert and the first time... And everyone goes through this you hear, wow man they're booing him. Oh my god they're booing him but they're not they're saying Bruce and if you don't know then you don't know and then you can misinterpret that so this reporter went... And I have to say if you're gonna cover the Bruce Springsteen of black politics female black politics You should know what The Screech is about for sure. I will have to give her a pass with a simple fact she's I'm sure she knew she was a member of AKA

40:41 But I'm sure it was jarring to hear a room full of women. Oh, yeah! If you're a reporter and you're reporting on Bruce Springsteen and you don't know that going in then you're then you're an idiot then haven't done your homework so that goes for this reporter as well because least you could associate Bruce with a boo is like something that you can have they're booing but if you just see a room full of women start screeching And if you notice, Whoopi had to correct Joy because Joy said screech too. She's like no no no, skee-wee because they don't want... Trust me these women have power and if I come up missing next week You know where start looking? I'm going straight to Michelle Obama right off the bat Hey!

41:32 What you doing with my man Mo? And just to make sure, I just want to reiterate. Mo is not thinking of suicide he's isn't a sound mind He does not want to disappear Very happy man! I don't have a hot tub and i don't fly in small airplanes No small planes Not good idea Don't go canoeing around DC Okay good we're straight So... You can see that she had the Boule support Yeah Now, this is an oldie but goody. But we have to- it's part of the fabric of this quilt of Kamala Harris was the black box claim. Oh yes that uh...

42:18 with the, that was on Joy Reid. Oh that's this clip there we go. So it's the indication that they are someone who was born and you know as a descendant in the United States who is representing black America and has the vernacular in the language that people would believe if someone who's a part of our community whose either debating about Camilla or debating about Booker because that's who just announced and trying to say we know who's the most, you know who is black in America. And making sure that they are sort of talking in this vernacular that makes it look like they are in support. I did see a huge uptick in bot activity when Connell Harris announced It just dropped like a bomb. It happened really quickly and she was accused

43:06 not really black, not a teal. Not really black and that kept going you could see that happening but actually there was an uptake of those bots just before she was about to announce so they were preparing for her announcement yeah that was pretty egregious man that was pretty lame when they came up with that if you have a pin close make a small note at this moment Because it's gonna be very important later in this show. Important, okay? I'm all for important yes alright so This is why I said Kamala Campaign was a corpse a walking corpse from the very beginning because soon as she announced The ADOS crowd the educated black political crowd that wasn't falling for Obama 2.0 attacked

44:00 And they tried to explain it away with Russian bots and all this different conspiracy theories. It was bizarre, because I remember—and this is how you and I kind of got connected when this stuff was taking place—it was such a bizarre lie! Everybody...I mean Ados was not An unknown entity at the even I was catching on to it It was not an unknown entity yet. They decided to write then and there to say now this is just Boston's probably the Russians You know, they're just trying to Muck it up. It was very bizarre that they went that far On The Joy Read Show where they had to give a believable lie

44:40 where the Democratic Party would believe it. And they were believing anything with Russian bots, right? I mean you can just say anything was a Russian bot and they will buy it so that was them buying time because without the black support. I'll say this again she's useless to the Democratic Party if you can't get that number from 59 to 67% turnout your useless yes and she found out now but as With anything, it went from bad to worse. So Kamala does this interview with the Griot which that's important about the clip because... That tell me about the Grio? In hindsight is owned by um... God just slipped my mind! Um... Byron Allen Oh okay yes Byron Allen So in hindsight

45:40 It makes sense. I didn't understand why the griot was pressing Kamala so hard, but like i said this is right when her campaign started and she's questioning about her support for reparations Do you support reparations for black people? Well listen again we had over 200 years of slavery We had Jim Crow for almost a century legalized discrimination, segregation and now we have segregation and discrimination that is not legal but still exists. And it's a barrier to progress We have disparities around housing we have disparities around education we are disparities around income and we have to recognize that everybody did not start out on equal footing in this country and in particular black people have not

46:35 And so we have got to recognize that and do something about that and give folks a lift up. That's why for example I'm proposing the Lift Act, give people who are making $100,000 or less as a family a tax credit which will benefit an uplift 60% of black families who are in poverty Right along with a whole bunch of people who don't fall into the category reparations Which is always the problem with these programs exactly If we were going to form a consulting group for politicians, Adam. Yes? The Curry Facts Consulting Group never ever use the word lift in your anything. Explain the... concerning black people. Explain I'm gonna explain it Obama tried this A rising tide lifts all boats

47:35 That dog don't hunt no more. Right, because it now was this a big campaign promise from Obama towards African Americans? That was his pacification mechanism I'm gonna do something for everybody you know i mean we're all going to... It's kind of like if I have zero dollars you have $100 I'm gonna give everybody 100 people still have 200 more than me But this is a talking point, and never ever use it. For anybody out there that's gonna run for office and you're trying to talk to so-called quote unquote black people Never ever use the word lips or tie or rising. And that's because Obama used it and it failed massively

48:25 It fell massively and it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. And we have, I have a clip of Mr John Kasich he speaks on the rising tide. But here's the thing that I believe economic growth is not an end unto itself. We have to make sure that everybody has a sense that they can rise. Of course our friends in the Hispanic community are friends in the African American community The promise of America is that our system, when we follow the right formula is going to give opportunity for everyone. It's what Jack Kemp used to say a rising tide lifts all boats not just some boats but all boats Yeah and it didn't work out for him either No no okay yes... It went from bad to worse I mean from bad to batter if that's the word yeah

49:17 And then she had her, when keeping it real goes wrong moment of the election. the reality of who will benefit from certain policies when you take into account that they're not starting at the same place and they're not starting on equal footing. It will directly benefit black children, black families, black homeowners because the disparities are so significant. So if we focus on the specific issues that have resulted in the greatest disparities and we understand that's part of why

50:06 The reality also is this. Any policy that will benefit black people, will benefit all of society Let's be clear about that! Let's really be clear about that So I'm not gonna sit here and say i'm going to do something that only benefits black people? No! Because whatever benefits the black family will benefit that community and society as a whole in the country Right? No Wrong I think she missed her... Missed the whole idea of the whole campaign Wrong. Wrong! Thank you for coming out, God bless you, good night." The campaign was over at that moment and I cannot believe she said that Which interview was that? Did it really get a lot of traction? That was... Traction?! It went viral just the little clip nooooooo Noooo Okay so that was immediate near-out

51:06 It just confirms everything that was suspected about her. She's not going to do, especially from the ADOS pro reparations crowd... How do you not? That's an easy question! The question was, I support reparations. I could have answered that properly is yeah of course it's just for ADOS not for the whole world a rising tide lifts all yachts i mean boats Tongue-in-cheek as a throwback to the last show Mary Ann's Williams look black blacker than Kamala Harris She does you're right. Yeah, you can't do that and like I said that was it The Boule the political class they did everything they try to breathe life back into her But that was her curtain call and how long ago is this when exactly did this take place? Do you remember

52:05 That was right after her announcement. Oh brother, okay well she's out of the gate she had no chance from the first when she announced it was like one attack and I use that word just like loosely attacked but it was like boom! She got hit with a When she was virtue signaling. Yeah, let me go back to Howard with my AKA sisters and show how black I am and then you go on the griot interview And she actually specifically what are you gonna do for black people? You give this all time?

52:41 Yeah, what a moron. No Yes, she could not. This campaign was hers to lose and she lost it there's a common saying in the woke community of she fumbled the bag. The bag mean you have the money, you know? And she fumbled it! She had everything going on all she had to do with is keep her mouth shut

53:21 And say yes, yes. Yes I'm gonna do something not even quantify it Not even qualify it. Do you think that Knowing that she's, you know, that she's not African-American. She's Indian Jamaican Do you think the African Americans were just waiting for her to actually fumble the bag? You think that I mean could she actually have ever taken it all the way to the end zone? It is very hard because she's apparently not that impressively smart. It's it's not easy to go through the whole thing pander to everybody and not trip up on this

53:58 Do you think there were people just waiting for her to trip up? There was a segment that just didn't like her because she resembled Obama too much. And in all fairness to her, she was burdened with everything Obama did wrong. Of course! I will give you that. Right but she was banking on it at the same time so with the good comes the bad. You can't take the good without the bad But the mistakes she made were so idiotic. And I think it has to be hubris, she has to be intelligent in some form of the word to make it where she's made it in life

54:43 Well, I think that she just got lazy Moe. Things were very easy for her in California and I think she would just walked in and out of her position And it was just made easy for her She didn't have to have a guard up all the time and she wasn't under so much scrutiny That's the only conclusion like again...I don't know maybe she is not that impressively smart Maybe she is dumb Me and you are podcasters. Me even less than you What I mean by that is, I'm a noob If i ask you, hey Adam are you gonna do something for black people when it comes to reparations? Am I running now or am I podcasting? Yeah yeah You're running Well of course! Of course we'll do something for reparations But only for ADOS Vote for me

55:36 She didn't say, we're gonna do everything I can or... she said no. Yeah! I think it was kind of done after that you're right No no no We do it for all well that was her whole lift Oh my god I can see all the mistakes now so clearly It was actually You're right it was called the Lift Act What an idiot Yes So they actually took a known failed idea from Obama and re-promoted it. A known failed idea? That's a head shaker! I can't, it blows me away. It's like she threw the fight. She didn't want to really do this

56:21 I'm like, I'm cool with not being president. I really don't want to do it because it was gift wrapped to her but the bule went over overdrive and overtime trying to pull this political corpse across the finish line. Dragged the body here we are just drag the body and they blamed on her lack of blackness One being Mr. Roland Martin, Donald Trump Jr is Fredo and he clearly can't read a bio all he has to do is go read the biocenter Kamala Harris that you understand her background and so she's probably the dumbest of all the trump children but here's the real issue here we attacks on Senator Kamala Harris his blackness really started at the moment she announced in where it's really coming from this is black self-hate

57:16 the black experience. They dismissed the fact that she went to HBCU, they dismiss her actual background. And that's what the real issue here. There are black people out there who are angry, who say Obama didn't do enough for African Americans and what they're not doing is demanding really policy questions. They're questioning her blackness you even have some fools out there who were black especially a lot of black men who are criticizing her because her husband is white and so I understand that folks are talking about Donald Trump Jr retweeting this but really you've got awesome asinine Black folks out there

58:01 are the ones who are questioning her blackness and they are shameful and they're despicable, and then they should be called out at every turn. Oh man including this black man here in Texas I was all over that shameful, shameful that I called her out on it. My goodness! That was Roland... what's his? Who is that again? That's the... It's Roland Martin Oh yeah. That's the one who gave the questions to Donna Brazile over at CNN And then Donna Brazil gave it to Hillary Yes. Ah my goodness Yeah there's your boule right there and he's a Greek just for the record so there you have it

58:41 So even Don Lemon starts to have questions about Kamala Harris being an African American. So April, listen the only black woman in the 2020 campaign is fielding questions about race and I just want to play for you what Kamala Harris said to The Breakfast Club when she was asked about how people on social media are questioning if she's African American Another meme says, uh, Kamala Harris is not African American. Her parents were immigrants from India and Jamaica and she was raised in Canada not the United States And it said fat! That's what the meme says So I was born in Oakland Yeah

59:19 and raised in the United States except for the years that I was in high school in Montreal, Canada. And look this is the same thing they did to Barack. This is not new to us and so I think that we know what they're trying to do They're trying it do what has been happening over the last two years which is powerful voices trying to sow hate and division among us and so we need to recognize when were being played Wow You know, my sister Tiffany not only born in Uganda but also her middle name is Nankia. You can't get much more African than that and still not a black woman and that's basically the same argument Kamala made except for a brownish tint of skin. Aww I was born in Oakland! That says it all! And Charlemagne Lagarde he reads the tweet It says...I'm going off memory here

1:00:21 Her parents were immigrants. I think that's true, she was raised in Canada with that loose with the facts but factually based book. But yeah we did grow up here in America last week and she and she's not African American and this sense of the word of African American no she's not because we had this conversation before where black Switch to African American which both meant ados right when used in a certain context But these people play dumb. He's very smart people played dumb And then Don Lemon and the next clip presses April Ryan on the Africa African-american thing yes is a classic clip I love this one What are you making for answer?

1:01:12 It's good for her. You know, let's there's a lot to unpack here number one What does black enough mean can someone give me a definition of what black is enough is I don't want to go down the road Of the stereotype when people say we're black number one she is a black woman She's a mixed-race woman when you see her you see her Blackness But she is also South Asian her mom is South Asian and her dad is Jamaican April listen more power to her And I think that's great. That is, that should be enough. It is enough that she's a black woman. We are not a model. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

1:01:55 But to want a distinction, to say is she African American or is she black? Or whatever. There's nothing wrong with that! There's a difference between being African American and being Black People, people Latino people are people of color but they're not black. They're brown people. She is a woman of color but she is a black woman. Okay that's why I agree with that. Her father was a black man from Jamaica. But is she African American? No no no! But if she African-American there's a difference there's nothing wrong with that. No one is trying to take anything away from her. So let's go down into her lineage. Let's go down into her lineage. If you want to fall into her lineage... All she had to say was I am Black but I'm not African American

1:02:36 I got a lot of respect for Don Lemon for doing this, which is probably the main reason i still put up with him. Is for this clip How did that go over in uh... black community? I mean-I'm sure it must have been divided some people like well that's crap or not I don't know! To me and this is of course after you and I had been talking for awhile Like yeah, Go Don Lemon You're absolutely right! You're calling at April Ryan as pushing back like a weasel And I can only speak for me. Don gained a lot of integrity points because he could easily snowballed it over like Charlemagne did, and just kind of went with the flow but nah, he was like nah she's not African American from the sense that you're trying to use it. April Ryan let me just give you a little factoid about her

1:03:32 On July 11, 2019 she was inducted as an honorary member of Delta Sigma Theta sorority. Oh isn't that special? It's kind of late in life to be playing for you. She was shepherded in and she was brought into the fam very nice yeah to the sisterhood it was like welcome to the club so just to let you know I mean they were dragging this corpse as far as it would go because They had a lot riding on Kamala. If they get her into the White House, they have the access that they didn't have with Obama because Obama's like I don't need you guys! I don't need your boulette You know what i'm saying? My wife is in it but he was in a whole different power structure tapped into a whole different power structure so he didn't really need these guys

1:04:21 Where if they made and created the candidate like they would have to do a Kamala She will be you know, she will owe them one and then they could cash in their favors So this is why there were so tied to her and her winning But really that was April Ryan was just the last sputtering gasp of reality Slipping away there. That was it and we was over by then and she just I put another nail in the coffin really or with Don. And yeah and when you have Don Lemon checking you on blackness... That's funny, wow man! You got Don Lemon checking you on blackness things are bad Yeah just for who he- for the gaps he's made on social media when it comes to uh uh to the you know to the conversation that that's real bad for April so now

1:05:13 One of the black men that had made comments about Kamala Harris being married to a white man and how that went over was Uncle Luke. Are you familiar with Uncle Luke? No, Uncle Luke. Two Live Crew? Oh yeah it's interesting because I was going to say its either Luke Skywalker or Luke Campbell. What's... What's Uncle Luke? Is he also Campbell? Yeah, it's also Campbell. It's Scott Walker Campbell. Yes. I'm from MTV Moe! I know these guys we used to hang. Yeah, I was just gonna see if uh... We used to hang wow Seriously i hung with them outside a Broadway video in New York and they were coming in and I was going out and then we're just like chatting for a bit on the street. It was bizarre

1:06:06 So I don't know what makes him a political pundit, but he was one of the guys that were. He wrote an article about Kamala Harris of the support for her in the black and quote unquote black community and her being married to white guy which is a valid point not to me personally but it has to be talked about because just imagine if Obama was married to a white woman would he had the same support? I don't think so. So i mean it's a valid Point of conversation. Yeah, does it matter not really but I think it should be It's fair game to have a conversation about But even he had to bow down to Kamala every night in the game And you just sit on the sideline You really don't understand The difference the nuances and and the struggles are trying to do right there probably when I wrote the article about you

1:07:01 You know and I just outline everything that every black man in the barbershop, black woman we're talking about in the conversations. And I always go back to it because basically everything that everybody was saying about you whether she's black enough or does she like black men? She putting black people in jail. You know the common things that was actually said but at the same time I write that and I didn't have a conversation with you. When we had the conversation, and we talked about it... We talked about the different things, it was almost... And after the conversation, I feel like I was actually certifying you because we were talking about fried chicken and talking about all these different things! Wow! Wow! Wow! And then we talked about fried chicken so I certified you! It's good! Yeah! She likes fried chicken so you-

1:07:59 That's some racist shit right there. This is how low they think of us! Damn, that's horrible He had valid points when he wrote the article because she was locking up black men She is married to a white man She's not African-American by the definition that we're using it But yeah we bonded over fried chicken so it's all good Hey You know I've never seen her husband And to the end, I mean they put... He was not on the campaign anywhere. He was not involved. In fact, I didn't even know she was married at all honestly! I didn't even think about it so they hit him is yes exactly and that wasn't by happenstance either there were like you stay in the car

1:08:54 You go get the fried chicken sandwich that Kamala's gonna eat and that's your job. Right, yeah. And this is what they did with her I mean even her and Al Sharpton talking to one another was that Sylvia, Tyler and Sylvia is like oh yeah let's take a... Eat some soul food and show them you know you down it's like what in the hell is going on here? That doesn't work as we're gonna see later on the show They have a bunch of these obsolete tricks that they've been running from the 80s, 90s and early 2000. And they just don't work anymore but Kamala she just can't get out of her own way I found this clip of her cooking with Mindy Kaling Kaling and thats the lady Indian lady from the office Okay and she's on a cooking show?

1:09:46 Yes, they're cooking a masala dosa. Oh okay that's which is an Indian dish mm-hmm Can't wait to hear this Is it respectful to call I should be calling you Senator Harris? No You should not that's not on my birth certificate Okay, comma yes please okay cuz the Indian and me I feel like my parents Just don't call me auntie They'll be like how could you call by her first day she's worked so hard. Okay, so what we're gonna cook today is an Indian recipe because you are Indian! Yes yes okay and i don't know that everybody knows that but i find that wherever i go and i see indian people at the supermarket on the street everyone's like you know Kamala Harris is Indian right? It's like our

1:10:30 the thing we're so excited about, to have you running for president. So we are both Indian but actually were both South Indian. You look like the entire one half of my family Now i think that this was a last ditch effort somewhere to get some poll numbers up because I remember reading an article about Kamala trying desperately to appeal to the Indian American population, to just get her numbers up. And you know it's obvious she could do that and witness this interview. And I thought as I was doing some digging I found some interesting facts one on YouTube they had under AP archives they have Indian Congresswoman sworn in by Joe Biden. That was Kamala Harris

1:11:23 And I'm sure you heard of the squad. Yes, well of course! Have you ever heard of The Quint? The Quint?! No i'd not heard of the quint yes that was the five Indian congress people that were elected into office and she was one of them oh I didn't know this how embarrassing so she was playing this weird trick like I said she was the intersectional uh candidate but she wasn't loyal to one thing So that was her downfall. In the black, quote unquote community, however you want to put the quotes in it, when you classify yourself as something other than Black

1:12:17 That's no good. Obama was very aware of this. Yeah, it seems... and Obama played it much smarter It was also very confusing Was he from Indonesia? Was he from Kenya? Was from Hawaii? There was just a lot of noise out there But Kamala, you know, it's really interesting She had everything except the one thing that she was lying about which is her actual background And she just kept it black. It would have been fine, because one thing about Black people is they're very inclusive and that's why when you classify yourself as non-Black or anything other than Black it's not well received and we saw this with Tiger Woods when he said he wasn't Black. You know that moment where you're thinking something then someone comes out and just boldly says it?

1:13:10 Yeah, it was one of those because they look like Stephen a slipped up and said Tiger wasn't black. Well We don't know what tiger woods believe he's Camden Asian He's not black when he got arrested. He was black. He was listed as black on the report So let's understand that but did you really get it? Listen again? Well, we don't know what tiger would believe he's Camden Asian. He's not black. He's not black He's not black He's not The way he moved on so quickly from he's not black to the One-drop rule tells me that it was a Freudian slip but also On a lighter note, I guess this means Comedy Central will have to reinstate the Chappelle show to do over the racial draft because Tiger Woods was drafted to be black. It's not looking like we'll get any more of this anytime soon.

1:14:07 So if you had asked me on any given day, I've of course not looked into his background. I would have said yeah Tiger was black to me but let's hear more about him well he didn't identify as not being black he identified Cambalasian or what? Cabalasion. Yeah, which is an amalgamation of black and... It's Cablanation which is Caucasian Black American Indian Asian Cabla- because I listened to it as I was hearing that clip like did he say Kamala Nation that's what it sounded like to me like Kamala nation wow that's interesting no Kablanation so he's a mixture of stuff

1:14:52 Yeah, so he was basically... He got cancelled for that. Because I mean we drafted him in the race draft but when it came out with that statement he got cancelled and there's this weird thing called the one drop rule. We talked about it on the show before so this is a throwback clip where we had Dr Yaba Bley on CNN with Don Lemon and she explains the One Drop Rule Explain what The One Drop Rule is The one drop rule historically, also known as the rule of hypo-dissent was really instituted to protect whiteness. It was a way for the white majority to be able to name and incite who was white So it's one drop which is 1 32nd? 132nd of negro or African blood would make that person negro or African whatever classification they used at the time I hear people say we're in post racial society

1:15:41 The reality is, in order to get beyond something you have to understand it. Right? And where in your education... Where have you been required to learn about race? They don't teach it No! It's the foundation of this country We have to talk about race we have to talk about racial difference It is just a flat out lie for us to believe that we've moved beyond race Right and remember this the one drop rule That's why I'm always careful when i say black or I say quote-unquote black are referred to as a community because Black is not a race. No African American Is a race Ados yes, that's why was cited about the turn aid off cuz it's more accurate than the term black and I was talking to my mom like ma When do we become black? because

1:16:32 And she was like, it was around the late 60's mid-60's early 70's because before we were referred to in an intro group as Negroes. That was the term but then it was too close so then they came up with black and then black morphed into African American which is like these brands I mean how? It's not a culture its a brand Right! And I would say that the brand Black probably came about Through entertainment in the 70s because you know, that's when we had really black people on TV in the movies You know We had Cleopatra Jones and we had Daniel shaft and all y'all, you know black black black So that was and it was being positioned. That way I'm sure I mean I lived it so It had a name like our last show the blacks boy Tasha movie The media air me it was pushed through the media and then with kind of kind of stuck

1:17:28 But one of my go-to YouTubers, Chronicles Of Judah. He has his take I want you to hear his take on so called black people Black is not a race and a lot of so called black people and i'll probably be covering this in another video A lot of fake pro blacks and liberal blacks are upset with Tyga Woods for stating that he's cobblin' asian First off whenever your dealing with people who have multiple lineages In regards to racial lines There's always going to be an inward struggle within them So-called black people, I've said this in the past. American blacks love to act as if they're going to liberate people in regards to their racial understanding and so called American blacks have the lowest level of racial understanding of any race Our people are the only people who try to force everyone else to accept that their race is a color and they have no idea what the hell they talking about ever in life on that subject This is what liberal blacks and pro-blacks do That's why I always tell you brothers Pro-blacks are really pro white

1:18:24 They take the so-called white man's ideologies and they try to blackenize them. The so called Caucasians stated that if you have quote unquote one drop of black blood, that means it should be black, quote unquote And what pro blacks do is they try to enforce that on our people as opposed to saying That's not correct Alright now I'm confused Now i don't know what to think It's about culture Not color Right And thats... The reason why brought this up is This is the problem that Kamala ran into. It's just not something you could put on like a jacket and say, oh I'm black! You know what I mean? No... There's nuance to conversations That's like saying white. You got to have been to the barbecue Right And it's just like when you go to Europe and you say your white Like What part of Europe are you from? Are you German or British Or you know so its very- And that why I put that clip in here because

1:19:24 That's why I was so excited about ADOS because it clearly identified who we are and it separated us from this monolithic black. And, I'm not a big fan of the word black because... Can I get a theremin please for this next clip? Oh well you're calling in the big guns here hold on alright You know we're going Wookie! And when the theremin gets pulled out... All righty, all right.

1:20:01 So we have Miss Alizon Psychic. And she explains, she's a white witch, white not color, white is in the type of magic she does. She explains the color black. Hello there I'm Alizon from alizonspsychicsecrets.com. I am a White Witch Spellcaster and psychic. I want to talk about the color black and its meaning Black is not strictly a colour, as it is the absence of all colour. It absorbs all aspects of light. Black is viewed as mysterious, secretive and hidden colour and has many negative connotations. Black can be very protective for people suffering from low self-esteem, low mood or other mental health issues

1:20:55 They use the color black to protect them from the outside world and hide away their true feelings and emotions. Great care should be taken not to use too much of the color black for clothing and decor as it is very draining and depressing. Although the meaning of black has some negative connotations, it does in fact enhance any positive elements given by other colors So wearing black with another color will promote and strengthen the benefits of that color Wow! That's some deep shit right there Okay Let me just...

1:21:31 So first of all, just by hanging out with you it makes me look better. That's what I just heard in that clip. That explains the one drop rule! Yes and it explains a lot of things but also I would encourage you when you have time to go back to your mom and get into that little bit deeper because this switch from Negro to black You know, it didn't just happen. It was pushed. It was meant to be and yes there's a lot of negative connotation with it and quite honestly it doesn't fit African-Americans universally across the board you don't all black as night. Yeah because we're all different shades I mean you got people look people like Kamala Harris' complexion is accepted as black

1:22:19 And then you have, you were saying people that are actually closer to the shade of black is represented as black. This is actually a great example of mass hypnosis where we look at a person who was brown and then we say oh yeah he's black I mean that is how crazy it is when you think about it Mm-hmm and when you listen to the Alizon The Witch...I say that respectfully The meaning of the cut, the depression and it's like is that dark? It's bad. It's no good. And my favorite though makes every other color look good. Oh yeah. The reason why I stacked those clips together like that from Chronicles as Judas going into Herb is this weird juxtaposition of the white to black now you're not white

1:23:15 I mean, by color. Yeah! I grew up in Europe. Right? You're European so it means a bunch of different ways you could qualify yourself But no, no, this is black. I digress on that point but i just wanted...I saw opportunity there to just address that. And I really appreciate that and I think Al-Azahn the psychic again for a future Mo Fax let's bookmark that. I wouldn't mind looking at that transition from Negro to Black because there's a lot of change in culture A lot! And it definitely has a correlation

1:23:56 of the quote unquote racist standing with this sentence that word. But I digress on that, so the question was asked we're at the end of her campaign and there's a question why did she fail to gain traction? To talk about what happened to Senator Harris' campaign and what her departure does to the race i'm joined by Chelsea Jaynes of The Washington Post. Chelsea thanks so much for joining us We began, the Democrats began this campaign season with a historically diverse field of candidates. As things stand now in the next debate, the PBS NewsHour Politico debate you're going to have six candidates on stage all of them white four white males two white women what does that say about whats happening in this race?

1:24:44 It's certainly striking. And today we've seen a lot of candidates and pundits and people in that world take to Twitter and point that out, you know? I think it's disappointing to a lot of people who—you know, in these underrepresented groups that looked at someone like Kamala Harris and said, you know, the first person to look like me who is going to have a shot at this, and to have it whittled down as it has I think, you know, on the one hand you have the most diverse field in history and on the other it's not shaping up to remain that way. And I—you know, I think there is a lesson to be learned there what it is far above my pay grade but I do think that it's really disappointing to a lot of people in an increasingly diverse Democratic electorate who hope they would see somebody different represented this time around

1:25:31 Now, just to be clear on this what we're talking about is these rules that have been set in place by the election committee or the debate committee or whatever it is as to who was allowed to be in the debates and they've set these levels and you know whatever it is based upon polling. And so that's why people are cut out not for any other reason other than the television decided we're not going to put them on as we talk about on the show often, you have no money. You can't buy no ads! You are not invited to the party! Right? Yes... Goodbye! Thank you for coming out That's very simple and that is one of the actual qualifications for the debate is money raised. And your so right No money well we don't want you near our advertising system

1:26:32 Because it's kind of built in. Yeah, you're buying ads but it's kind of like you buy the ads and get the news coverage for free kinda situation. Don't let anyone know Moe! No one knows how this works. I'm exposing it all! You're giving away the secrets So Kamala... We're going back to the view now with Sonny and when we started out here with the original clips. And the topic of the black vote comes up. To your point, Sonny all of the front runners have one thing in common they were all white yeah so um

1:27:08 You, you do. Everybody says that you cannot get the Democratic nomination without the black vote? Yeah. So what's going to happen to the Democrats now that we have all white faces up there? Well I think when you look behind the numbers for black voters one of the things is going on is that black voters think that there was a I don't want to speak for all black voters, but looking at the statistics and looking at some of the reporting Black voters don't think that someone like Kamala Harris had a good chance of electability. Had a good chance of winning Really? Bullcrap! Yeah

1:27:49 They're throwing everything at this, no way she didn't get the votes because they thought Joe Biden had a better chance or Bernie Sanders had. No she sucked as a candidate just own it but we know why Sonny can't say that is because she's a card carrying member of the AKA slash Boolay Sisterhood so she can't just say come on a sub. I'm sure they probably try to repackage her for 2024 go back in You know, do the autopsy and figure out where they went wrong. And you know, repackage your this is when they become wants to be black anymore. I mean she might say you know what? This is this is when they need would be India. They need to hire us for 2024 and we'll tell them what to do first thing is don't run camel yes not gonna work not gonna happen No never Never. I could have one with her

1:28:47 I know that sounds arrogant, but just shut up. Just don't say nothing! Just be quiet and wave and you'll be fine. Oh it's like okay yeah... All right, got it. So there's a reckoning to be had not only amongst the political class uh amongst the bullet talking heads so that was this weird not weird occurrence but this timely uh happening that I noticed as i always understand this is what I do when I notice things I draw the connection between them Tom Joyner is signing off after 25 years on the radio. Yes, and this is a... That's quite a momentous event since he has been quite a tour de force in radio and I'm a radio guy And I was a big fan until you unpeeled the scales from my eyes to see the boule that he possibly is-was

1:29:50 But what I understand is he was leaving radio pretty much because they just weren't paying him anymore. They said, well you know that some of... Radio in general has issues of course podcasting is killing it but it's not dead by a long shot It's a multi-billion dollar industry but they just kept paying them less and less and the way I understood what I read in the interviews He said, Well, you know, it just didn't make sense for me to do it anymore I have other reasons that believe why he resigned. Let's get into Tom Joyner signing off. Radio Giant has or is signing off this morning after a legendary career, 70 year old Tom Joyner is the host of America's number one syndicated urban morning show

1:30:36 The Tom Joyner morning show airs in more than 105 markets nationwide, reaching nearly 8 million listeners. Well today at 10 a.m. Eastern the show goes off the air. Unbelievable! Isn't that what Charlemagne has? Doesn't he have about eight million people listening? Uh-huh... Okay yeah See I'm thinking of it like a radio guy and then all of a sudden you're like oh no no this is of course this is where it's a replacement. Tom Joyner 2 His nationally syndicated radio show hit the airwaves in 1994 with a certain audience in mind. We do a show for

1:31:20 For African Americans, that's what we do. This is just so fascinating 2000 Joyner discussed his influence with 60 Minutes correspondent Leslie Stahl 1996 the election yeah I've heard That you were responsible for registering a quarter of a million Black voters have been given their credit politicians they call you They want to come on Yeah They think That if they want to reach African Americans that vote They can come to this show. How does the message that you were talking about in? 2000 resonate with 2019 as we go into the 2020 election It was different there I've had one more woke then than now in 2000 and 2000. Ooh I feel a little pain there with mr. Joyner

1:32:20 So let me get it straight, we're more woke with less information. It's amazing isn't it? I don't buy that. It's like they were easier to control back then, it was like... They didn't have all these damn smartphones and internet and YouTube and MoFaTs clipping stuff and putting them together." Yeah, this is very interesting because he was getting credit for the black vote really coming out or at least a significant portion of it — that's what you just heard in the clip He competes directly with the Breakfast Club, does he not? Isn't that a direct competition? Is it just mornings that Joyner does? Yeah but demographic difference. I would say he's 35 up and Breakfast Club is...

1:33:13 And Breakfast Club is 35 under. Yeah, that's the audience you want so it was just a demographic thing he wasn't pulling it anymore just time to retire him out to pasture I guess yeah you know more good and you see He said, basically I was the Charlemagne before Charlemagne. That's what he was saying in 2096. The candidates had to stop by here. I gave him a stamp of approval told black people who to vote for and I keep making this point Black radio is so powerful because you have it's free entertainment

1:33:54 So poor people who happen to be black can tune in and it doesn't cost them anything. And then you're in your car, so you're a captive audience because this is the drive time. You know this better than I do. So now you have me captured because depending on where you live at...and I live Well, I live near a major city Washington DC. You still only have like two to three black radio stations? So you're going to get caught by the message and then when you have things like Radio One that buys up most of the radio stations- Yeah. You pretty much gonna be indoctrinated with the message that they want to push. That's what made Tom Joiner so powerful but now

1:34:45 campaigns are targeting younger voters. It's not that he changed, it's how campaign who campaigns target. I'd really love to know...not for this show we can look at a different time where podcasting fits into that you have the read and you got other podcasts and if they're actually taking away the African-Americans who were listening to the radio? I wonder if that's happening Went I don't know just for me. I don't think it may be a direct competition far as time slot It's about information and if you have to look at ADOS, it was that podcast moot podcast slash social movie, right? Right, correct So it's like now we're hearing new information You know is like oh, it's like a whole new world where now before you had BET black radio

1:35:39 Jet ebony, that was pretty much the main veins of black information. So well Tom Joyner is passing the torch now though Somebody scooped us! The press release is supposed to be coming out in a few minutes but the new morning show that's going to replace the Tom Joyner morning show Say hi to Ricky Smiley. Good morning, Tom! Good morning, Ricky! Thank you for the opportunity. Okay? Okay I appreciate it thank you for dinner thank you very much okay we got someone new on the scene younger well obviously Ricky Smiley where does he come from He's a comedian uh-huh Uh...He comes from

1:36:33 Like I said, he's a comedian. He's been on the radio but now he is taking that time slot from Tom Joyner so they hope to go younger They're putting the boomers out of pasture But let's listen to Rickey Smiley talk about Kamala Harris when she was running Hey what up this is your boy Rickey Smiley Hey, you know one thing I do. I always support Greeks and well a I remember meeting this Delta Member of Delta Sigma Theta her name was Keisha Lance bottom And she walked up to me at the radio station said what up bruh? That's all you saw Ross. Let's see you just saw Ross She said yeah You know she told me her name introduced herself her name in that chapter. I said what you got going on She say I'm running for mayor of Atlanta. That's okay with us it s this result oh

1:37:24 I said, what are we going to do? She said we're gonna do it. Got behind her so she came on the morning show and we made some great things happen So one thing about us Greeks most of us stick together now i want everybody To go and support Kamala Harris She is our senator United States Senator out of California HBCU graduate And she has represented Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated possibly You know, if she wins she will be the first woman president. First black woman president and a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated Wow! So this guy is all over it He in fact is B-B-B-B-B-B-B-Boulet Yes Him an Tom Joyner both are members of Omega Psi Phi fraternity Oh my goodness

1:38:16 Moe, we gotta get you in the morning radio man. We got to get some new information out there some real voices this is despicable Now when you go back to Steve Coakley's clip where he talked about that web now you see it Yes sir! Now we're seeing the web I mean you can't get away from it but The problem is there's...the market is widening There's new people coming and you have Black Lives Matter which is not of the boulé They're getting their support from a different vein. And then you have people like the ADOS and the foundational blacks, and non-affiliated people that are spreading information. And I keep telling everybody that there's this political maturation process going on amongst quote unquote black people

1:39:12 And we're seeing the effects of it now. Well, I'm so happy. First of all, I'm happy for this show but you know there's... You're right! There are a lot of alternative voices out there and maybe it's just a little slower to catch on but man people gotta know about these morning radio show guys just as one example of course But holy crap! It's not good People are getting worried though and when I say people The members of the black political class, the ones the gatekeepers. They wanted used to deliver our vote they were scrambling after the Kamala Harris meltdown right one being Senator Warren staffer Alicia Alencia Johnson

1:40:02 It just sucks that billionaires can kick really good women, especially black women out of a campaign. Did her run have on you personally? What was going through your mind when you saw that news. I mean honestly any black woman in a leadership position is someone that not only do i look up to as someone who is going to break barriers for the career I have, but in general to the plight of black women. Right? Like that is the highest achievement for a black woman is to become president United States right and she's only the third two run so whether or not I worked for obviously didn't work for her as a black woman in politics removed from campaigning it is hard to see that this could be the greatest achievement for a black woman to accomplish and so personally it was hard and it was hard

1:41:04 We have a group text. And we're all like, today is really hard." These are women working for Bernie? Warren For Warren and yet oh so sad that Kamala got booted out It's the sisterhood They have to reevaluate their value If we can't get you the black vote what is my value to the Democratic Party Right. And that goes for radio hosts, that goes for staffers, that goes for politicians as Kamala Harris... Wow! Wait a minute so is the whole system now getting blamed? For Kamala not making it instead of actually just blaming Kamala for not being good

1:41:57 Everyone else is getting the blame. It's like, okay time to switch it up We got to get the old radio guy out we gotta move these people around you're no good You failed is that what's happening? Yes What was the point of having you around if you can't do your one job right Your one job is get that turn wrote a turnout and I suspect how this conversation goes I'm not privy to any information but It's inferred that, hey we're at 59. We had to be at 67 to win. We're going in the wrong direction of... That's why you see a changing of guard and you gonna see a lot of heads roll One being Joy Reid tell me she is gonna get cut

1:42:45 NBC, MSNBC attacks Black voters won. One of the things that you talk about in both your report and I've spoken with you about this before is pushing out negative information about a candidate that's been selected to be targeted to turn black voters against them but it's who they're using as the voice quote unquote the digital voice are supposedly also black people who are spreading that message. And here's what you write about these, about fake accounts that are not necessarily really black people but it seemed to be black people who were saying hey Kamala is a cop or this person is bad for black people quote the fake accounts pretending

1:43:22 women matter, not only in the disinformation campaigns but in every election. There has been a constant number of fake accounts posing as black women since 2013. These fake accounts which pretend to be black women seem to be real people with real concerns. They connect with the American Black community online attempting to learn black vernacular and key issue areas." What would be the point of creating fake accounts who appear to be black women specifically? Wow, hold on. Is this a new clip or is this back to the ADOS or bots? When was this recorded last week Oh my goodness they're doing this again that's Joy Reid Doing that again! Yes with the same woman! What is her name? Was it BlackBot? Where he at

1:44:09 Shireen, uh... I don't know what's Shireen. But yeah it's the same woman! Yes, Shireen Mitchell. Shireen Mitchell. Shireen Mitchell yes! Wow! And wait a minute- Hold on, Imma read to you, I have a screenshot of the screen This is nuts Report, disinformation targets and actors. They have a list of disinformation campaigns ADOS American descendants of slaves, Blexit tangibles foundational black Americans Black Voices for Trump and Walk Away Well, holy crap. I know ADOS is real because you know i've followed it. I'm involved. I see Tone and everybody as Cynthia. I know what's going on. Blexit is Candace Owens she's yes she's real now whatever turning point USA has to do with that? I don't know. No tangible tangibles foundational blacks that's the uh Taric Nishiz operation yeah that was just supposed um

1:45:10 Ados right mom which is real. I mean he's really yeah, you can't argue it so now so let me just understand So now the the messages that they were that day who was duped by these fake black Women accounts what was the what are they saying? Now? What is the point stay away from them? Oh They're saying stay away from, and then on the other side of the screen they have list of issues targeting black voters. Reparations criminal justice climate change immigration And so whenever you see something tweeting that out it's obviously a bot? Is that the thing? Yes. They talk about tangible reparations, criminal justice... Oh my god! Well climate change there might be a bot but I mean... That's so desperate Moe this is desperation when they're throwing this out and that is-I'm sorry you can't cut it any other way someone said holy crap we got a problem

1:46:06 all hands on deck. We just got to tell them to step away from that shit because we can't have them thinking that way. Double down on the bots, gosh! MSNBC attacks black voters too. Because if we know as we've seen that the ones who are valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused on getting black people to do only one thing, not vote for the Democrats. And can you name what are those five campaigns? I mean we put up from the report that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice conversation. So reparations...

1:46:51 Reparations, immigration and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system. So the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. Very quickly we're out of time but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing about Black Lives Matter and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do you even tell? You can tell right away by the language that they use most of the time, but if we see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without us getting something back. You should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying. Better look at those accounts and seeing what they say. Wow it's mind boggling! That is so desperate We are black bots man

1:47:48 Oh my goodness. Me and you, you're in it too now! I've been to the barbeque, this is insane. But it's so pathetic, literally the issues that African Americans should be most interested in you're being told to ignore because that's fake news. That's bots blown away! If you ask for anything in exchange for your vote... You're not real Oh my goodness. You know Mo I think this particular episode of this show

1:48:36 surpasses journalistic integrity from every single so-called Like the paper of record, they haven't done a deconstruction of Kamala like this. No one has been honest about what is actually happening or what happened to her I mean we know that it's hard for any mainstream media outlet to say well you know Hillary Clinton just sucked as a candidate she certainly won't admit it so were going through the same with Kamala but its worse when you get...this is pure racist

1:49:14 propaganda from black women, you know African-American or not but their skin color is black so you could you might mistake them for someone who's on your side. It's really It's bizarre. In fact, I'm using these two clips on NOAHgender. They're good! What a great catch! So congratulations on just really pulling this together because this is something that not only is it necessary from a journalistic standpoint that someone actually fairly look at what happened But I think it's good for the voters to get informed. People, if you made it to the end of this show and you're hearing us here You've got to turn other people on to this! You've got to have people listen to what happened here This is...I mean, I'm gonna say This is un-American what's happening here And I'm a little angry My stomach is like, oh, I don't like this at all That's crazy that's some disinformation It's unbelievable

1:50:16 But I'm not angry because the harder they work, it only tells me how valuable my vote is. Gold! It's pure gold my friend. It's like when somebody gets mad at you cause you won't sell them something Yeah. It's like, sell it to me man! Sell it! Take my money!" Right? No, uh-uh. No no no no... And especially since we know that the whole system has been set up to target black women Because the men are no good. The men got crazy ideas like you, like the... You've been energized by Donald Trump." Oh! No, we have to get the black women African-American women are the ones who were going to save us and keep these votes in here and now you're doing this?

1:51:09 Do you think people fall for this? Do people see through this at this point or is it still... and by the way how many black women watch MSNBC I'd love to see that the numbers just in general. Just because you put some black women up there doesn't mean people watch it, or they fall for it do you know give any idea is this a...? I don't have very little idea but these are the think tanks yeah it's just one example. We know what black people want we always put Let's put up a, I'm gonna say this. Let's put up a dark skinned woman and they'll believe her. They'll believe her and that's why I don't think... And I must say this and I'm gonna wrap on this point. I don't think Kamala Harris will make a good VP because she is not your stereotypical black woman. This is identity politics. This is what it is.

1:52:03 This is what it is and they're going to be looking for, I mean you know who I told you was gonna be the VP? Oh yes Stacey Abrams of course. Stacey Abrams because she fits the bill so this is sick in one way but then as harder they try it only just emboldens me that I'm on the right track and I'm telling everybody whether it's labeled bought or not do not vote unless you get something for your vote I'm sending this episode to the Smithsonian Institute. I want to make sure it's preserved for many years from now because this is a seminal moment in this election where we have uncovered the insaneness of going after the African-American vote and how that's being done, and I appreciate the work you put into this Moe. This is fantastic

1:52:51 And I'd like to remind everybody that we do this because we like each other and have fun doing it, but we really would appreciate you showing the appreciation of the work that went into this. We call it The Value for Value System. Did you learn anything? First thing you gotta do is turn someone else on to this because I think this episode in particular as important as I explained but also send us something in exchange for that value and mofax.com is the website you can go direct into the funding portion by going to MoFundMe.com M-O-E Fund Me dot com and Mo I can only say once again thank you for a stellar job And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself.

1:53:52 We're not gonna make it And it's gotten to the point Where we just can't fake it We're just one player to die. Neither one of us wants to be the first to say goodbye.

1:54:39 I keep wondering, what i'm gonna do without you And I guess you must be wondering the same thing too And convincing ourselves to give it just one more try Because neither one of us wants to be the first to say

1:55:32 He's the one of us, wants to be the first to say. There was a love that burned.