Sunday, 16 August 2020

46: Kamala Kanye King

A presidential bid in Wisconsin and a controversial VP pick reveal the deep fractures within the Democratic base and the rising influence of independent Black voices.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 3h 37m listen | 30 chapters
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About this episode

Kanye West officially filed for the presidential ballot in Wisconsin, triggering a media firestorm over his potential role as a spoiler for the Joe Biden campaign. Donald Trump and West appear as strategic opposites in this cycle, with West acting as a negative vote amplifier targeting socially conservative Black Christian voters. The meeting between West, Jared Kushner, and Ivanka Trump in Colorado signals a shift toward Powernomics that bypasses traditional Democratic gatekeepers.

Kamala Harris joined the Democratic ticket as Vice President, but her record as a prosecutor and the Jamal Trulove case continue to draw scrutiny from activists. Critics like DL Hughley and the hosts of The View have labeled West an honorary white guy, while media figures like Ida Rodriguez and Karen Hunter face accusations of hypocrisy for weaponizing mental health against political dissenters. Meanwhile, an investigation into The 19th news organization reveals funding from James Murdoch and the Rockefeller Foundation, raising questions about the corporate interests behind the Build Back Better agenda.

Angela Stanton-King emerges as a pivotal conservative voice challenging the feminization of Black boys and the placement of abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods. Moe Factz and Adam Curry break down the wedge being driven between Black men and women, while exploring the distinct lineage of ADOS Americans compared to the non-ADOS advisors surrounding the Biden campaign. The return of the American Bully to the studio marks a new chapter for the value-for-value model.


CHAPTER 01 / 30 Discussion

Welcome Back, New Dog, and the Value for Value Model

Adam Curry and Moe Factz return after a one-week hiatus for episode 46. Moe discusses adding an eight-week-old American Bully tricolor dog to his family, which Adam jokes is his fifth child. They reiterate the show's value for value model, emphasizing that the production is supported entirely by listeners without commercial advertising or corporate endorsements.

adam curry· moe factz· american bully· value for value· podcasting

00:06 Mo facts with Adam Curry for August 15th 2020 this is episode number 46 and appropriate welcome back we are we are back Hey, hey, Mo You got me in a mood. How you doing Adam? Yeah good. Yeah good. You got me in a good mood. I like this Mean of course I grew up with you the original welcome back by Tom Sebastian For the welcome back cotter. That's right. Did you ever watch that as a kid or from a little different? You must be watching super reruns then the reruns right? Yeah, definitely. Okay. Nice. That's mace mace mace mace. Oh

00:44 Yes, makes him from bad boy. Ah, well Mo we skipped a week Apologies for all that we we're back and we're back on track. We presume you never know life is funny that way and It I gotta tell you ma'am. So first of all, how are you? How's everybody doing? How the kids everyone everyone cool? Everybody's doing good. All five kids are doing good. Um, I The wife, so... The wife, okay. Very good, happy to hear that. You're supposed to ask me five kids! I'm not gonna talk about your side hustle, man. I'm not gonna bring that up.

01:25 I was just gonna do it to the family. Yeah, not we got a new addition to the family Okay, of course you would gloss over it cuz everybody knows you hate dogs Dogs are people too. Moe. I have nothing but love for dogs man. Nothing but love please please We did add a new fit a new addition to the family American bully tricolor black beauty Beautiful dog, um, needed around the property. Tri-color black was that what it was? We decided it just kind of looks like a Rottweiler. But it's an American bully. I'm looking at him now. It's weird. Aww, what a sweet, how old is he?

02:04 How old was he? Eight weeks. Oh my goodness. Eight weeks old. Yeah. Well congratulations, you indeed have a fifth child. That's wonderful. All right. All right. Well, the next Mo Facts will be in four weeks from now as Mo will be too busy potty training the dog. No, you can go outside now I guess, right? Yeah, it's not my it's not my dog. Trust me My wife is gonna is gonna pretty much Baby him like she does the other four. Okay, so okay. I got it. This gives you an incredible break in life Everyone's doing their thing with the dog and you know you can go sit in your office your shed right around walk the grounds And I have somebody to complain to the news about So I just have a quick quick story from my side, you know because we we had been talking back and forth, you know texting and

03:08 I forget it was two nights ago, maybe. Keep around, we're in bed and I just got the phone, you know, I'm like, I'm gonna send this link to Moe, you know. It's like 11 o'clock and about, I was getting sleepy, so I just sent it, boom, text comes back and I have the sound on, and it's Moe. And Tina turns around and she doesn't have her glasses on, she looks and says, who's Mary and why is she asking if you're up? I'm like, I'm working. Must get some booty call. You up? It's Jake, it's Jake for State Farm. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it was. I'm like, it's Moe, it's Moe, Moe. I'm not getting booty calls. That was pretty funny.

03:56 Anyway, I know if I spin the wheel I usually say I don't know but I'm really psyched because of course I do have an idea of what today's show is going to be about. So as I roll out that wheel of topics for MoFax with Adam Curry we find out what today is. What kind of topic will we bring you? The wheel of topics. says what nobody knows except Moe and today I do. Pizza potluck. Yeah! Potluck! Love me some potluck. Wait for it. Potluck. Who did that? Was that Dame Jennifer again? Did you make her sing now? Is that what that is?

04:51 That's actually from a kid's show. I forget the name slips my mind, but it was from a kid's show, but I thought that was hilarious, especially the last part. Yeah, here we are. Yes. And to remind everybody, this is a value for value production, which means we take no commercial money, no advertising, no nothing under the table, no host reads, no endorsements. We talk about things because we actually mean it. And that's the only reason why we can do this. There's no way to cancel us and we're supported entirely by the producers of this program, who we will be thanking later on in the show. But up front, thanks everybody for sticking with us, for staying subscribed and for supporting. And I think we're back to some interesting potlucks topics, just glossing over the list.

CHAPTER 02 / 30 Discussion

Kanye West Presidential Run, Republican Assistance, and Spoiler Dynamics

Kanye West officially filed for the presidential ballot in Wisconsin, sparking debate over whether Republican operatives are assisting his campaign to siphon votes from Joe Biden. Donald Trump denies involvement but expresses personal fondness for West and Kim Kardashian. The discussion compares West's potential impact to Jill Stein's 2016 performance, noting his ability to act as a "spoiler" in battleground states with large black populations.

kanye west· donald trump· joe biden· wisconsin· jill stein

05:37 Where do you want to kick it off? Let's dive into the first dish. Kanye West has officially filed to get his name on the ballot as a presidential candidate in Wisconsin. Since he announced his candidacy last month, he has had mixed success meeting ballot requirements in various states. It's becoming increasingly clear he's getting help from Republicans and Trump supporters, leading some to question whether a clearly vulnerable Mr. West is being used to try to siphon votes away from Joe Biden. Are you aware of or have you encouraged anyone in the party to help him get on the ballot? No, I'm not aware. Other than I get along with him very well, I like him. I like his wife. His wife recommended certain people, as you know, for including Alice Johnson, who's a fantastic woman, but his wife recommended certain people to get out of prison. They were in prison for a long time. A long, long time. That should have never happened.

06:33 I took what she said very strongly, Kim Kardashian. And it's got a good heart, very good heart. And I like Kanye very much. No, I have nothing to do with him getting on the bill. We'll have to see what happens. We'll see if he gets on the bill. I'm not involved. That's what it appears to be. I mean, the dynamics that existed in 2016 that assisted Donald Trump in being elected do not exist this time around with Joe Biden, in my opinion. And if you look at Jill Stein and the impact she had in several battleground states, it's very clear that the numbers would indeed assist Donald Trump. I am so happy that we have this in our potluck stew for today. The dis and misinformation about Kanye West and in fact some of the... Man, I gotta tell you, I saw... They had to bring out Jim Clyburn. You know, he's the...

07:25 He's the whip for the Democrats, you know, he's the guy that pushed Biden over the edge, had to bring him out, saying Kanye's nuts. It was, it's just... Kanye is a big problem, is the... Yeah, that's, that's, that is true. Kanye is a big problem and they know it and man, it's fun to watch all the, all the media that is either me too-ing with the, with some narrative that's being created or doing it themselves. It's, it's really, really, I've not seen this level. Yeah, and as Shemichael Singleton, who's a political consultant said,

08:03 He could basically play the spoiler like Jill Stein did in 2016, but with an even bigger impact because in those states, those critical key states that need to win, there is a high, large black population. And if he could shave off a few points off of every one of those states, or a few of those states, it could be a huge political impact to that. And I think the Democrats know this. They've known this for a long time. I need to interrupt and I'm sorry, but there's something that hit me the other day. I think I am and I know I mentioned on no agenda because you just said black population. Usually you say so-called black. Right. But now that Kamala Harris has self identifies as black, I just wanted to know

08:49 what's the vibe man? It's like to me, personally, I felt well if we just look at color, she's brown, politicians are always talking about the black and brown communities which I guess is two separate zip codes maybe one big zip code. The color people. So when a non-ADOS person says they identify as black and it's adopted as such, does that mean all brown people are black? Or Ados, does Ados now have, you have no color man, I think they took away your black.

09:29 We may get to Kamala today. You have to stick around. Alright, I'm sorry. So it's a valid question though, right? It's a very valid question and I have a substantial answer for it. Okay, well this would be a doozy. But we want to stick to Kanye right now. Okay. And the problem with Kanye is If you notice, he mathematically can't win being president. But if he's serious about 2024, this is a great dry run. You can build up some political cachet. He's even learning how to get on the ballot in different states. So he can dry run all the way through the process.

10:15 And after that he'll be ready for 2024 and he could give a big middle finger to the Democratic Party which he despises and give his right-hand man, Bit Loki, a you know a hand up or hand out. You know because who's Bit Loki? Big big Loki aka 45 savage because Kanye is playing a role a little Loki right now Okay, big look you got to explain the Loki bit. I don't think everyone knows this Oh, yeah from the last show the comparison of the gesture or the Loki so if you listen to the last show It's basically they are trolls slash

10:58 What's a better word for it? Just they antagonize right? I mean for the benefit disruptor. Yeah disruptors. So that's a good point. I miss a good word for it. But yeah, they're Democrats know and they're trying to do everything they can and they have been trying to do everything they can ever since Kanye showed any support for Donald Trump. I mean they hauled him off last time to the Sanicylum, if that's the proper word for it. And to be clear for people who are new, I think both of us, and I took Kanye seriously before we even knew each other, but for me personally you have to listen to Kanye. It's like listening to Trump.

11:42 You know, it's just a different version of what is this word salad that's blah blah blah. And if you just listen and you keep an open mind, I remember when he announced this on stage and he said, you know, he started to get into Collette Colvin. the whole story about her instead of Rosa Parks and you could hear and see so-called black people going, oh man what are you doing man? You know under under-informed obviously.

12:18 So that's why I called him Little Loki, because it's the same thing with the birther from Trump. He knew how it was going to land, but saying those outlandish things, Harriet Tubman didn't free black people, she only let him go work for other white people. He knew what was going to happen. And by the way, that's true. That's absolutely true. We just have to think about it for a second. But okay. Well, that's the thing about slavery, um, flavor was a choice. It's he does the same thing Trump does. He lays out this seemingly inflammatory statement, but when you sit down for him to clarify, it makes nothing but sense. But he understands how the media cycle will pick it up. Say, Hey, look how crazy Kanye and they can't help. They can't help but to pick it up. Well, at this point, it's so crazy that they're just backing off.

13:09 They're like, yeah, he's crying and got 20 20 shaved into his head, but they can't back off either. That's the... Well, I think Kim is helping. I think she's really helping by trying to stave some of that off. I don't know what their relationship is like, but I see her only doing good things for him. But the media is using it like she's gonna get a divorce any day now, you know She's um, like when you read the headlines, it's like, um, yeah Kim Kardashian Dot-dot-dot yeah for husband's health or something. Well, then when you read in it, she says nothing to the nothing at all And then they try to put that that other kid in as a wedge, what's his name? Oh

13:49 Gee, Willie, I'll check check. Oh is it chance to rapper? No, no, no, no No some guy that you know, that was part of the whole story Some other guys she had she had been somewhere with and Kanye like no, she's cool. Oh, yeah I mean, of course, they're always gonna use I mean, um, it's a fascinating that how they do that with her. This is the same party that I Goes against people that try to quote unquote slut shame. Yeah, let's be for them. Yeah Hey, just you know, it's true. Yeah, they'll just dump on Kim. I Have my own feelings about the camp the Kim and the Kardashian Kovac and Kanye but that's not here nor there But let's go in this whole setup

CHAPTER 03 / 30 Discussion

Kanye West as a Negative Vote Amplifier and Media Narrative

Kanye West is characterized as a "negative vote amplifier" and a "hired gun" for the Trump campaign, using his creative platform to disrupt the Democratic base. Despite media attempts to frame his candidacy as a mental health crisis or a publicity stunt, West's mastery of the media cycle remains effective. Speculation arises regarding how the liberal media will continue to attack West and his family as he steps outside traditional political boundaries.

kanye west· donald trump· media bias· kim kardashian· negative vote

14:41 Kaya is getting some very interesting help to get on the ballots. And with that said, let's get into number three. Donald Trump, to mix a couple of metaphors, drew an inside straight last time. shouldn't have won. Everything fell into place in the last week of the election and then he scraped through in the three states that put him over the top. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Wisconsin's looking like the best chance that he has to win again of those three states right now. And he won by less than the margin. His margin was smaller than the number of votes that Jill Steinberg was going to win last time, which was around 30,000 votes. So they're hoping to recreate that magic, those dark arts, and make this happen again. And here's Kanye West, who honestly, I don't know his motivation. I don't think anybody really knows his motivation media right now. It's unclear whether he is active

15:36 actively helping Trump. It looks like he's having some mental health problems, which is really tragic. And, you know, he's a guy who is a very talented creative thinker who thinks outside the box and might have been convinced or convinced himself that this is a good idea. But frankly, it didn't look like there was much really happening around him pointing to actual success. He got in really late. It didn't look like he was going to get on. It wasn't clear anyone serious is working for him. Frankly, the people who are actively involved trying to get him on the campaign right now, I It's unclear to me how they got involved. I think that's the next big shoe to drop here is who put them in touch with who is coordinating this. Oh, yes. This is the insinuation. Exactly. It's the magic. First of all, it's Trump voodoo.

16:19 Dark arts dark magic. Yes. Mm-hmm sounds like marketing to me Exactly it sounds like that was a Cameron Joseph, which is a senior on political writer But yeah, they're digging in and saying no, I'm gonna be completely honest. I This campaign was ready made for Kanye to step in using some of Trump's people I mean, I'm not I'm not one of those people all you know this that's not what this is clear What's happening, but it's completely legal? Well, of course it is nothing wrong with it, but it's yeah, it's obvious I mean like

16:57 The goal is to win and if you could keep points off the board, if you can increase that negative vote that we always talked about even since the first show. He's a negative vote amplifier, right? When he gets in there, the role of Kanye West to Donald Trump is this. He is a tool, but I don't see it as a negative. No, he is a hired gun brought in To say all the things with just a bigger microphone as Trump has but it's coming from you know a so-called black person and from that has swag and from his perspective which is different and

17:42 And it comes from a creative person which as up until now the Democrats thought they had cornered the market on creative people according to John Legend. Only Democrats can be creative people, we know. But this would talk about one of the most creative guys and you know, maybe in the last, you know, 20-30 years when you talk about his impact to music, fashion, and just overall mastery of the media, you know, the media cycle. So you can't poo-poo Kanye West away, and I think they understand that. So they're trying to just say all he's working for Trump basically. I mean, that's that's that's the narrative Yeah, one of three narrative with the main ways. He's just a he's just a tool for Trump, which I don't disagree with yeah, but

18:30 But I think Kanye gets out of it what he puts into it because when he showed up to Trump Towers after 2016, then he pops up as a billionaire. Yeah. And he was like 50 million in debt. How you go from 50 million in debt to being a billionaire? I've never believed his billionaire stories. I mean, I just don't know. And calculating net worth is very difficult. Well, he's a Kardashian billionaire just like how they said Kylie's a billionaire. Yeah, exactly. So but he's worth a lot of money Very rich person. Yes, you only getting richer with uh with the affiliations that he's making

19:14 And he's beyond counsel. That's that's what's so I mean they're trying everything right down to I'm sorry he has mental health issues and his wife is a slut and still that doesn't work you know none of it's it doesn't work going after they're gonna go after their kids next you watch it's gonna be Kanye danger to the kids Kim takes the kids away from Kanye watch I predict it write it down and I don't know I don't agree with you at all um so you don't think the media will do that No, I will. I said right there. I don't disagree. I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Um, yeah, I mean that's that there's no limit.

CHAPTER 04 / 30 Discussion

Jared Kushner Meeting, Powernomics, and Targeting Older Black Voters

Kanye West confirmed a meeting in Colorado with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump to discuss "Powernomics" and empowering Black Americans. The analysis suggests West is not targeting "woke" youth but rather older, socially conservative Black Christian voters who may be alienated by the Democratic Party's removal of religious planks. Trump's campaign operatives are reportedly active in helping West secure ballot access in states like Arkansas, Ohio, and Wisconsin.

jared kushner· ivanka trump· powernomics· claudia anderson· black voters

19:56 to what this liberal media will do to a black man when he steps out of his box. That's right. And it's going to show you, this is going to show you that it is a plantation over there. Yeah. It is, it is a, you're saying full fledged 100% plantation because, well, I'll talk about it later, what tactics they use to, to, you know, get him back in control. But Kanye has been meeting with some very interesting people during this 2020 election. As Kanye West continues to pursue his quest to appeal on the presidential ballot this November, a source tells Reuters the Trump-supporting rapper recently met with White House adviser and Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. The New York Times, which first reported the meeting, said it took place in Colorado last weekend and also included President Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka, who's also a top White House adviser.

20:53 West appeared to confirm the meeting in a tweet late Tuesday night, saying they discussed a book on empowering black Americans and he offered to do a live interview with the Times. I just haven't had the time to word it in the most elegant way possible. The rapper and clothing designer, announced his last-minute presidential campaign, followed by a series of rambling public remarks that have raised questions about his intentions and his mental health. I think that's the actual story I sent to you when Tina thought I was getting a booty call. I think that was the one about powernomics. I think that's it. Yeah. Yeah. I have not read the book yet.

21:33 I haven't either. But it's just interesting that Kanye is meeting with Kushner and Ivanka Trump. They're not hiding this thing. I saw Jared Kushner in an interview. He's like, oh man, unlike all you people, someone has different beliefs from me, different political beliefs. I still stay friends. And he said that was such a damn smirk on his face. It's like, come on, Jared. Come on, man. We know what's going on. Like I said, it's completely legal. I think it's a smart strategy and if the Democrats had a way of doing this, they would, but they don't. I think Kanye

22:18 Well, we've talked about Kanye and maybe his affiliations with the family aka the Christian Illuminati So it makes nothing but sense that and and he knows how the media has treated him before so Whenever he can stick it to the media. He's gonna do that. How important how important do you think it is that his his Sunday service and his Is being reborn? his belief in God, is that an extra important factor in this case, do you think? No, it's part... when you understand who they're targeting, and it's not who you think they're going to target. People think they're trying to target the young black voter, O.Kanye, those people are already quote-unquote woke, or they're already so ingrained into the

23:17 liberal culture that you can't move them. I believe Kanye is targeted towards the older black voter. Black male maybe specifically? Male specifically, but Christian, conservative, not conservative politically. I'm talking about socially. And when you listen to the things he's talking about, Yeah, it's a lot of those. It makes me yeah, he's targeting if they start to play these clips when people stop to listen It's not gonna work out. Well for the the media West has been open about his struggle with bipolar disorder and his wife, Kim Kardashian, has asked the public and media to grant him compassion. West's appearance as an independent on the ballot could possibly disrupt the race between Trump and former Democratic vice president Joe Biden.

24:08 if he were able to garner any votes in U.S. states where the contest is close. Last week, The Washington Post reported that Wes's campaign has so far filed petitions to appear on the presidential election ballot in 10 U.S. states and that Republican operatives, including some with ties to Trump, were involved in efforts to support his candidacy in at least five of them, including Arkansas, Ohio, and Wisconsin. Trump on Tuesday told syndicated radio host Hugh Hewitt that he had not talked with West about the Entertainers campaign. Sure he didn't. Sure he didn't. Wink wink, nah nah.

24:55 So Trump's people are showing up, working hard to get Kanye West on the ballot, and Kanye West is nothing but the bullhorn that's gonna say all the things that need to be said that are true. I mean, they're all true. I mean, it's not that he's lying. It's just that Any other person, they could be canceled or written off, but every time Kanye West opens his mouth, it makes news. I mean, he has that same effect that Trump has. And that's really the secret. You have to report on it, right? Yeah, that's really the secret. And as long as you add in there, obviously a mental episode, as long as you add that in there, his message still gets... That's exactly... That is the Trump playbook, really. Yeah. But you know what? The Democrats and the liberal media

CHAPTER 05 / 30 Discussion

DL Hughley and DJ Vlad Attack Kanye West and Terry Crews

Comedian DL Hughley and DJ Vlad are criticized for their harsh rhetoric toward Kanye West and Terry Crews, including suggestions that they belong in a mental asylum. The use of racial slurs by Hughley in the presence of a white interviewer is highlighted as a form of "systematic teardown" of Black men who dissent from groupthink. The segment explores how the media weaponizes personal flaws against Black public figures who stop supporting liberal narratives.

dl hughley· dj vlad· terry crews· kanye west· mental health

25:40 are shooting themselves in the foot because people are looking like, I thought you were supposed to be for people with mental health issues. I thought you were for black people being independent thinkers. But as soon as a so-called black man comes out and just questions things, he's crazy. And not only is he crazy, but they laugh at it. You know, it's actually sick. Of course it's sick. But it does the job of exposing how hypocritical the people on the left are. And it's just not going to work out well for him. And a perfect example of this berating of Kanye and anybody that thinks like him, I have an interview with DJ Vlad and DL Hughley. I swear, Terry Crews and Kanye West should get a room in the same fucking mental asylum. Yeah, they should have kids. They should have the same fucking medication. They should make out. What do they make niggas like that? I don't know, man. I don't know. But

26:43 If somebody's mentally ill, when people say the insane shit those men do, usually they live under a fucking underpass with a cardboard sign that says, repent Jesus is coming. They do. And I don't feel bad for people that can access help with just saying yes. They have the resources to do it. So it serves a purpose. But to denigrate your, to give people comfort, I hope that I never give people who hate me or people like me comfort. I hope they never go, that really made me feel good.

27:21 Wow. I've always wondered. You see the all-out attack? Yeah, but the first thing, what really happened to D.L. Hughley? Wasn't he on, like, wasn't he on Saturday Night Live or something and he just kind of melted away and then he pops up from time to time looking like a pimp? Right, they gave him the radio show out in LA, you know what I'm saying, and he has a huge brown and black following. Ah, that's what happened to him. Brown and brown, that's right. Brown and brown brown communities Okay, that's why he asked the cape for the Democratic Party because when you're given that kind of thought

28:04 Get a gig like that. Yeah, you got to do you do you have to push the agenda early in the morning brainwashing people? He's kind of like the West Coast version of Charlemagne got it, right? I mean, he's on he's in the West Coast. What station is on but do you know what station he's on? I Don't recall what stations he's on But what pissed me off with this one there's several things I would never refer to another black man in the presence of a white man as a nigger no I No, but I don't and then black he said what do you find these niggas there and blab I don't know Like oh, so you meet you agreeing with dear Hughley. I mean This is what I'm talking about. It's like everybody gets a pass on

28:49 To just attack black men or black people in general or so-called black people in general when they have don't participate in group things the system Yeah, they're not on board And we see it, you know, and he like he said I'm not I don't want to give Comfort to white people. Well, you know what? Hold on a minute cuz I have a clip even doing it But I just want to finish up what I'm saying here and let you chime in To sit there and say that and then say, oh, they need to share a mental asylum. You know, bro, you don't do, I mean, of all things, I mean, because we have a mixed company podcast, right? But there's certain, there's certain things that you just don't do. And one of them referring as another brother, no matter what, no matter what, you don't do that. And I'm so desensitized to hearing

29:44 a black man used the word it didn't even didn't I didn't think about it I mean because I'm doing the show with you yeah right and I and you know and I know white people have no idea how that makes other black people feel not all but you know some The funny thing was just before I clipped this I didn't want to make the clip you understand three minutes long They were going on and on about Terry Crews and Terry Crews took the word Coon and turned it into a positive leaning Acronym right and they were like you can't do that. You can't use a negative word and then he turns around Yeah unbelievable

30:25 Yeah, this guy Vlad we got to keep on him. But um, do you Lee? He's just either disgusting human being I'm just gonna say that from the bottom of my heart because at the end of the day as Anybody you can disagree with somebody just like if you did have political disagreements with people That's one thing but to like tear it to try to tear another black man down in the media off of Using their flaws. That's a whole different thing. Like if you have a political or a Mean cuz like me I come here I could see other black people, but it's on their views. Yeah, it's not on them personally It's like hey, you know what? This is what you say now Let me counter that with this fact and then you do you explain to me? You're saying what how you still have this you're saying understanding. Mm-hmm but just to get on and to participate because you we all know what's happening here and I'm gonna reveal it in a minute and

31:24 Because this is a systematic teardown and we've seen it before and we'll see it again. And as I always say, no black man makes it out alive. And that's the truth. Bill Cosby, whoever OJ, whoever, none of us, you're saying make it out alive when you get to that level, because to get to that level, you had to make some deals with the devil. You did mention to find specimens there as your examples. No, no. What I'm saying is If Bill Cosby was still kicking the liberal talking points, it would have been brushed away. That's my point. It's not the behavior, because of course, the way he did was terrible. But what I'm just saying is they'll cosign

32:10 The bad behavior as long as you're pushing their narrative, but as soon as you step out a lot I won't push their narrative. What is Kanye? Kanye is a father. He's a businessman billionaire music musician You know saying what negative cake I mean And it just adjust the poles to and say I hate to do this, but how they look at Jay-z. I They give him all the passes in the world because he get if he pushes the liberal agenda and soon as he doesn't They push it. We were saying they smack him down. Of course, so so that's just a systematic Jay-z is completely tokenized. He's very useful for the NFL or whatever else and he he likes the other side of that Tony

32:51 So right but soon as he didn't back Colin Kaepernick you saw this start pulling all the dirt out of his file. Of course. Don't forget we have a we have a foul on all of you. We have a to get to that point and but that comes from the skull and bones thing. I hate to go off on a small tangent but And the skull and bones you had to lay in that casket and tell all your secrets. It's the same thing in Hollywood. You had to give them all your secrets that way they can tear you down if they ever build you up. And these days, I don't know if you saw that Millennial Millie documentary, the two whistleblowers. No I didn't. Oh man. They can even, they can nudge you just by looking at what you're doing, like for real. And they've got everything.

33:34 Everything you'd I mean like it's it's kind of mind-blowing especially the phone and I don't know how the OTG nature is in the ADOS community mm-hmm I'm glad you brought that up because I just want to make one statement Think I'm gonna be going off social media for a while if not ever For this very fact because like you said they know how to put things in front of you to trigger you oh, yeah, I can't get around it and you can't avoid it so You're you're spot-on with that one and we're being highly highly Manipulated and nudged. Yes big time big time. Oh

CHAPTER 06 / 30 Discussion

DL Hughley on The View, Slut-Shaming, and Live Interview Demands

DL Hughley appeared on The View to label Kanye West an "honorary white guy," a move described as providing comfort to white liberals. The hosts of The View are accused of hypocrisy for laughing at "slut-shaming" remarks directed at Kim Kardashian while claiming to support women's rights. Kanye West has publicly demanded that any interview with the New York Times be conducted live to prevent deceptive editing by the media.

dl hughley· the view· kim kardashian· kanye west· new york times

34:17 So just to leave off where, pick up where we left off at, D.L. Hewley makes a statement saying, I don't want to give white people comfort or people that don't like me or people that look like me, right? But then he shows up on The View to tear down Kanye. So you talk about Kanye in the book and due to his actions, you say he's an honorary white guy now. Okay, that's a strong statement. You couldn't have known that, you couldn't have known that post-press time he would announce his run for president, which we're not sure if he's in or out at this point. What do you say about that? Could you envision a Kanye presidency? Oh my God.

35:00 I don't think it's discernibly different than the president right now. Literally, I think that when you're motivated, you grew up in Chicago and you're more motivated by Donald Trump than an example of Barack Obama. Whether you agree with him ideologically or not, there are two distinctly. One is aspiration, one is just an ass, but I'll say this, that there are discernibly They're the same type of men. They both are amoral, they both are narcissistic, neither reads, and I've seen both their wives naked. So I think they're exactly the same type. Wow, well he had the wise part right that was pretty good. That was a good way to that's a good way to wrap up that that that Comparison list it's crap of course, but I thought I was pretty good DL. Yeah getting paid and this but but the view laughs it when he's slut shames of course Kim yeah, I'm just showing you how these people have no really I

35:55 Moral underpinnings it's all about instead of pushing their agenda. Yeah, because if anybody was the shame another woman For her behavior or sexual choices or whatever they were like no idea you can't do that exactly Oh wait, we need to tear down Kanye Roller decks and say who can we get on the view to give us comfort? But also make us feel comfortable that but also did to say black people ain't thinking like Kanye. I You know, I listened to that and I'm like, he's not an honorary white guy? Blow me DL Hughley! What is that supposed to mean?

36:33 You had to ask DL, I mean, I guess cause he thinks for himself. And questions his vote. Welcome to white Jim Connie. There you go thinking again, right. There you go. You're thinking for yourself Connie. You gotta be, must be a white guy. What does that say about black people? What does that say about black people then? If you question things, then you are self-sufficient. You're a white guy. You're running your own business. What are you saying? This is actually the whitest podcast in the universe. But then that goes to say like we always talk about when you say white and the opposite is black So you're saying black is not thinking for yourself and not being self-sufficient and not questioning things exactly And just giving you your vote away. That's what he's saying. But what I'm saying is in the last clip He said he doesn't give comfort to white people and it's a big big issue with me right here. I

37:24 You say that but you know when your phone rang or your agent's phone ring and they're like the view they want you to come on and talk about Kanye. Yep. You knew what you were brought in to do. It's like Joy Behar she read. Oh, you know, remember that time when you say Kanye was an honorary white guy that was kind of harsh, but I like it, you know that kind of thing. Yeah. It's like that's real crappy. I mean, I don't appreciate that. No, I can tell. Like I said, I already had my problems with DL, but now he's really off the invite list. Right, because what these so-called black people do, bullet Negroes do, they corner the market on so-called blackness and then it's like, oh, we can give it to people like Kamala Harris when we want to, and then we can take it away from Kanye when we want to, when blackness, what they call blackness is called actually lineage, and there's nothing you can do about my lineage.

38:21 Nothing, you cannot stop no I come from or where I come from or change that but that's why I call it black ink Now you see why it's a business and it's like do you have a license to operate in blackness? Oh, no, your blackness license has been revoked Kanye. You can't speak for black people anymore, right? And all Kamala we can we'll give you a black card, you know, so you can you know speak for black people I mean, it's a real Man, we, you know what, we need to get Kanye on this podcast. We just need to get Kanye. We can do an interview with Kanye, can't we? I can get that. We should be able to reach him.

38:57 I think we should, and you know what? I would appreciate that because we will let him talk and actually get his thoughts out and not use these five-second sound bites to make him seem like a crazy person. But Kanye knows how it's going to be used. You know, I mean, he understands that. Well, what he understands and what he called for appropriately, and this is, and he understands the media incredibly well, you know, this whole powernomics meeting with the Javanka, got blown out in the, I think it was the New York Times, and he tweeted, oh I'm happy to do a live interview with the New York Times anytime you want, just tell me. He understands it's gotta be live, it can't be recorded. If it's not live, and he's right, if it's not live he can't do it. But we should be able to get to him. And the question about it in the Times, I would hope so. Because

39:49 We need to have avenues where people can speak unfiltered. Yes And edited, you know, and that's like you said why didn't the times take up a live Kanye West? I mean, that's like that's what it what a great opportunity. What a great opportunity What you want to do a live interview? Boom. I'm on a plane, right? I mean that moment But they don't want him to speak. They want to use him and soundbites and looking, you know Not the best to you know to tear down not only him but anybody that thinks outside the box I think I can get I can get your Pell's number from Rogan and she helped Chappelle was out there He wasn't at the ranch, wasn't he?

40:34 Dave Chappelle? Yeah, yeah, right after they did the same thing to Chappelle. They did to Kanye, they did Chappelle. It's like, oh, he's crazy. You know, he went, we're in Africa. It's just like... That was kind of weird. That was a weird situation because I liked that Chappelle went out there to show support, but then Kanye's like, yeah, hey man, like, show him everything's cool. Tell a joke. And that's like telling a magician, hey man, thanks for coming over for coffee. Show me a trick. You know, it's really rude. Or telling Kaya to sing a song. Yeah, exactly. Sing a song for us, Kaya. Yeah, why don't you sing a little song there? Just do a little ditty for us. Dance, monkey boy! All right. Right. So, Kaya, so we have next up

CHAPTER 07 / 30 Discussion

Karen Hunter Show, Ida Rodriguez, and Mental Health Hypocrisy

On the Karen Hunter Show, comedian Ida Rodriguez suggests that Kanye West's "microphone should be turned off" due to his bipolar disorder. The segment highlights the irony of "woke" media figures laughing at mental illness while simultaneously claiming to advocate for mental health awareness in the Black community. The discussion frames this as an attempt to suppress independent thought rather than engaging in a substantive debate of ideas.

karen hunter· ida rodriguez· siriusxm· mental health· kanye west

41:17 This was on the Karen Hunter show where she's gonna have several appearances on this because we had to get the bullet perspective of course all things all topics that are popular yeah so In this clip we got a comedian Ida Rodriguez and She's from the at funny Ida. Oh, I guess that's her handle, but she's gonna speak on Is Kanye a genius? Kanye makes me laugh because we said that I've said it here before I think it's hilarious that only black and brown people when somebody is famous they're automatically a leader and a spokesperson for the whole group, right? Like white people can do stupid shit. But that's not us doing that. It doesn't matter who does it what I'm saying yes it is. No, that's not us. Trump tweeted about him how great his album is. No, no, but what I'm saying is

42:09 white supremacy is what white supremacy is. That's absolute. Okay, but what I'm saying is look at the people holding Kanye West accountable for the things that he says and a lot of people look like him and it's ignorance because they're uneducated, they don't have the information and they automatically assume that because he has the microphone that he is assuming leadership. He said this though. No, but I know what he said. He also said he's bipolar. Polar! And we sit here, we hear what we want to hear. So we should give him a break because he needs to be on his medicine? No, I don't think we should give him a break. I think we should turn his mic off. Yes! There are people... But that's what we all want though. No, no, no. Put masking tape on his mouth.

42:56 Did you hear that laughter? Yeah. When they say, can you play it from here please? Yeah, of course. You want the laughter bit? The laughter bit? Yeah, just yeah. No, but I know what he said. He also said he's bipolar. And we sit here, we hear what we want to hear. So we should give him a break because he needs to be on his medicine? No, I don't think we should give him a break. I think we should turn his mic off. Yes! That's what we all want though. Wow! That's what we all want. You know, MoFax listeners, I listen to, this is from SiriusXM, ever since we started playing Karen Hunter on the show, it's on the Urban channel, which is synonymous for black apparently.

43:41 Yes, that is some woke-ass crap man all day long. There's not a lot of really interesting people that's interesting from a show perspective, but no balance just zero zero especially Karen Hunter Or if she brings on a person, you know, he's not up to the level whoever he or she or he is debating, right? I mean, they'll lopside it. But MoFax listeners, if there's an opportunity, should call into that show and say, hey, excuse me, why are you laughing at a person who you claim is bipolar?

44:24 Or that he's having an episode. Why are you laughing at that? Why? But then they'll turn around and say the same thing, well black men suffer from mental health issues, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, to, you know what I'm saying, collect money or votes on our behalf. But then turn around and laugh. That's fantastic. If you think he truly suffered from it. And then you say, we need to turn his mic off. Yeah, that's the best. It's like how about coming up with some ideas to challenge his ideas. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying, and beat him in a debate. No, it's like shut up. Shut up, slave. I mean, that's basically what it is. He's just an annoying person to them. Very annoying. He's very but you know what Kanye knew this was gonna be um he foretold this and this and this comes from uh show number 13 it's a throwback clip um even when Kanye said he uh he can't be silenced. Are you afraid of losing your audience? Yeah

CHAPTER 08 / 30 Discussion

Kanye West Throwback, Cancel Culture, and Corporate Voices

A 2019 clip of Kanye West features him discussing his lack of fear regarding cancel culture and his belief that Democrats intend to remove Jesus from schools. West critiques the "corporate voice" or "Disney approved voice" that many Black professionals adopt to avoid ruining business deals. He asserts that hip-hop should be about independent thought rather than following the rules of what is considered "woke."

kanye west· cancel culture· alex jones· hip hop· religious freedom

45:15 Told you I'm only afraid of God. I'm only afraid of my daddy God I've been 15 years I'm telling you God is showing that you can have your own thoughts, bro I've been canceled before there was canceled culture who told you that that my career would be over. The same people that are telling you that you can't have a right to say who you will vote for, those people will be soon to take Jesus out the school. Those people will be soon to remove Jesus, period, from America, which is the Bible Belt. Those people will be soon, man, come on, man, I ain't finna go Alex Jones level, y'all, man, come on, man, what y'all want? Wake up, wake up, Mr. West, wake up, culture.

46:01 Wake up, everybody think they so woke but they following the rules of what woke supposed to be Hip-hop ain't never been about following rules. It's been about doing what you feel I'm gonna take the Louie. I'm gonna throw it like this. I'm gonna do it the polar I'm gonna do it like this even like the way I talk hold on. Let me use my african-american voice. Let me use my Disney approved voice Let me you yeah, I'm saying we're not even speaking in our own language, bro like we talk louder than this Africans talk loud Italian moms talk loud We talk louder, but we speak in our corporate voice. We don't want to ruin the deal voice. I love y'all man, and I love me, and I love Christ.

46:44 And y'all should love to see this. I'm not gonna tell y'all what y'all should do. I'm just doing what I do. If you love it, then cool. If y'all wanna rap me, it ain't gonna make a difference. Honestly, I done been killed so many times on social media and I'm still here. I'm still talking, look at me. That's gotta be one of my favorite Kanye clips. That's really good. I really like that one. And that's what you have to do. That's why they wouldn't give him the interview. Because if you give him a live interview and let give him in room to talk and all of a sudden he makes it Yeah, yeah, it does. It does. That's why we need him and I'm I would like to make one point I think the cancel cannon Originated right there with that clip. Yes. I will. Here's a little Yes, indeed I thought I recognized that

47:39 So just let that sink in for a minute. And then you asked me about him being a Christian and all that. If he keeps talking about removing Jesus, In those states in South Carolina, North Carolina, the Bible Belt. People will pay attention. And black, you know, you're right. I mean, we got to think about the three pictures on the wall. You remember that? It was, you know, who was it? So when you start talking about removing Jesus and you got Kanye West, Mr. Jesus walks himself, saying the Democrats want to remove Jesus. What? So people are going to start to listen and then they'll notice, you know what, the Democrats did remove religion from their planks. Of course they did.

48:23 So I'm just saying when you start getting volume behind that message, you might not get them to vote for Kanye or Trump, but people might have something else to do on Tuesday. I'm just saying. Well, he does not get the mainstream. You know, Tucker Carlson's been He's been covering him from time to time and that would be a great spot for him to go. He won't do it I guess. I don't know why not. It would seems like that would be a perfect spot. Well, he can't Kanye he has to walk this line right? He can't be too Fox News. Yeah, he can't you know, I mean you can't Submerge yourself in too much conservatism. Yeah, that would be a problem because

49:07 One, I don't think he thinks that way. I think Kanye's like, let people think how they want to think and then the majority will win because I think I think like him. I don't know him personally. I was going to say it should be known that you really grew up Following Kanye, I mean you've grown up with Kanye. Yes, I know I guess I'll say it again I was a Kanye West, you know follower or fan I mean for lack of better word ever since before he even got in front of the camera because I loved his I loved his production and I would go and buy CDs just that he did mute beats on just to you know to read it so I follow Kanye all the way up and

49:49 I've know that he went from being super liberal. Yeah, now don't say he's ultra conservative But any kind of conservative is also conservative if you're black obviously So Yeah, this is where we're at and... Well, that's an important... It's important because that clip just reiterates the whole idea is to turn off his microphone. Let him rant, let him rave, let him do whatever he wants. Just make sure he doesn't get a hold of the mic in a situation where people will be able to hear it. That's literally what they want. And that's why you haven't seen an interview with him. No. And I was just gonna say before we go to the next clip,

50:30 I have the same, I think I have similar beliefs as Kanye. Put all the ideas on the table, debate and discuss them, and then whoever the majority goes with, that's how society heads. If society wants to head to a Marxist future, and that's where the majority is, so be it. What are you gonna do? But to try to shut people down and cancel them and you know, don't even let them get their voice out? Nah, that's not the right way because that's what they've, you know, that's what this system is all about is suppressing and but they always love to talk about voter suppression. What about voice suppression? What about suppression of ideas? Those kind of things, you know, but that doesn't matter. It became so easy and Kanye is just one of the few people but it became so easy to cancel people or

CHAPTER 09 / 30 Discussion

Black Buck Breaking, Equity vs. Equality, and Fishing Analogies

The concept of "buck breaking" is introduced as a historical and modern method of degrading strong Black men to maintain systemic control. A metaphor is used to distinguish between Republicans, who might offer pointers but no home, and Democrats, who offer a home but never teach self-sufficiency. The discussion also critiques the shift from "equality" to "equity," referencing Kurt Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron" as a warning against forced sameness.

buck breaking· equity· equality· kurt vonnegut· harrison bergeron

51:20 As Roosevelt said, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. And people are afraid of their jobs, that's why they're doing this against Kanye. People are afraid to speak up because they know they can get cancelled for anything. That tide is changing though. That is changing, but not this election. It goes deeper than canceling for Kanye and other black men. This is a clear cut case of black buck breaking. The term buck breaking refers to a process used by slave owners to break and destroy strong black men in order to degrade and demonstrate mastery over black people.

52:03 This was frequently done by beating, sexually assaulting, and humiliating black men in public to make examples out of revolutionaries to deter our desire for independence. In other words, they wanted strong black bodies with weak minds who wouldn't disrupt the institution of slavery. Even the image of black men being responsible fathers, husbands, protectors of their families was forbidden because such images didn't support white world dominance. Instead, hundreds of years of negative imagery toward black men as being lazy, dumb and untrustworthy criminals have been highlighted before the world. Wow.

52:52 It is true. It is goes all the way back to yet to slavery and I mean we see it all the time Well, so it's and it's all and if you look at the slave owners move forward a little bit, you know Democrats. Mm-hmm Democrats in the South Democrats They did that if you just want to make it political right and that's the point. Oh Gosh, okay. Let me let me get let me give you a now. This is just my high level Take on liberals and conservatives just I mean and I really already prefer to say Democrats and Republicans. How about that? Okay, cuz yeah, just make it go to these are parties. These are clubs. These are called so I'm not in either one So this is this is an analogy or no metaphor what I think about Democrats Republicans and how they deal with black people. Okay, you got a little boy fishing, right?

53:49 And then you have a conservative come by and he'll say, hey, you might want to throw it over there to catch some fish or throw it over there to catch some fish. Every day he comes by his pasture and gives you a pointer or two. And little boy's like, can I go with you home? He's like, nah, you can't go home with me. But I'll give you some pointers, you know what I'm saying? Where the liberal will go and, you know, they'll take you out, throw the ball around with you, take you home, but they'll never show you how to catch a fish for yourself. So that's how I look at the two parts. And I know it's an oversimplification, but that's how I see it. But you know what? I would rather learn how to fish and not go home with you than you take me home, but you can feed me when you want to feed me or not. Well, that is the teach a man to fish and eat for the rest of his life, of course. Right. That's my allusion to that. I'm just saying, but that's the two ways they do it. One would never ever teach you how to fish.

54:46 It's because if you learn how to fish, then you can think for yourself, you know, but they can't hold that, you know, the fish that they want to give you for dinner over your head. Do you think that is ingrained? Do you think, I mean, did that, was that gone at some point? Did that come back? Has that always, has that been that, was it that way in the early 70s, in the mid 70s? Has it always been started in the 1950s and like 60s when we talk about no man the house, right? Right, right, right. We're gonna get around to like what black men really want We'll talk about that later in the show because it's very simple Very simple what we want in relation to that clip though Moe I have to say we've never started the show on time That's true You open yourself up with that man

55:35 Yeah, but you know what? I have no- you know what? Some stereotypes are true, but you know what? I'll say this- That's not true, because you are the hardest working guy I know. You work your ass off. That's the point though, it's like uh What do what do you value time or quality quality? You know what I work with other people from other countries and there's other groups of people that are considered late So I don't take it as a slight no, of course later. No, it's it's a different vibration I think this we have to understand how people vibe. Yeah, I

56:12 And if you understand people how people vibe it's like you know what he said three o'clock that's probably gonna be about 3 15. Oh, yeah I was still drinking coffee downstairs. I'm like, yeah emotion text me more, right? I'm I was just busting your chops man. Just busting your chops. No, no, no, but what i'm just saying is If we try to understand people instead of trying to put people in a box, then you can thank you relate to them better exactly exactly exactly Alright, so and just so everyone I relate to you. It's nothing to do with skin color or culture I relate to you because you're a winner. I like hanging out with winners. That's what that's that's what I'm looking for That's all I care about. I really I could care less. I want to be around winners

57:00 And even if you're not a winner, because you could be a loser, you could be a winner on a losing team, but winning is a mentality. It's like you always want to bring your A game, you always want to be prepared. And I think there's more of us out there than not, but they've demonized competitive, being competitive so much that people are scared to show competitiveness. It's like, you know, that's toxic. Even that's a problem. Yeah, of course, because then you're, well, you know, this is the equity equation. is you know this I've been learning from teachers how they're expected to teach and apply equity not equality but equity inside the classroom and inside schools and it really is 100% about making sure everybody's at the same level if you're not the same level we're gonna give you five extra points to make sure you're there that's a very simplified version of it but the opposite version

57:58 Kurt Vonnegut, which is a great book and a great movie, Harrison Bergeron, where the equity worked the other way in a dystopian science fiction future, where you're a great dancer, okay, you still get to dance ballet, but we're gonna put 10-pound weights on your ankles, just so there's equity between the other dancers. You're really beautiful on television, and your co-actor, not quite as beautiful, so you have to wear a mask. That also may be part of this everyone wears a mask bit. I don't know but if people if people use equality and fairness as a weapon No synonymous, but they're not they're not those two words are not synonyms to each other. Of course not Fairness is and I like him to like sports right you show up with 53 man roster I show up with a 53 man roster we had the same salary cap

58:57 But you just put together a shitty team, excuse my language, and I put together a superior team. Now we'll play by the same rules, passing, holding, those kind of things. All those same penalties are called the same way. That's fairness. But what they want is to say, you know what, even though we're throwing... Give me two extra guys. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and that's not and nobody wants to be that nobody wants to be pandered to or treating you know as a no that's that's very condescending and in the Democrats and liberals haven't picked up on it yet that we don't want to be you know, uh

CHAPTER 10 / 30 Discussion

Tucker Carlson on Kanye West, Pro-Life Advocacy, and Dragon Energy

Tucker Carlson identifies Kanye West as a powerful voice for core conservative issues like faith and the pro-life movement, noting that West is "too famous to cancel." Carlson argues that the media's shift to labeling West as "mentally ill" only began after he showed support for Donald Trump. The segment also explores the "Dragon Energy" shared by Trump and West, linking it to the concept of Kundalini awakening.

tucker carlson· planned parenthood· margaret sanger· dragon energy· kundalini

59:34 cater to or pander to or those kind of things because what you're saying is, hey, all right, big, it's like what people call you big man, like, all right, big man, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's the most offensive thing you can say to somebody like, you know. Big man? Yeah, yeah. I'm normally saying like, you know how people, they're condescendingly say it like, oh, you're a big man. Oh, hey, all right, big man, like that. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I gotcha. So Now we're gonna get into why Kanye West is so dangerous. And you brought him up. This is Tucker Carlson. At this moment, the most compelling voice against abortion and Planned Parenthood is not a Republican. The most widely heard Christian evangelist in America is not ordained. Instead, he is a rapper married to a Kardashian who, by the way, everyone says is crazy. Kanye West is running for president, but that's not really the headline.

1:00:31 The headline is that on core conservative issues, not political issues like legislation before the Congress, but on foundational questions about life and children and what happens when you die, no one with a national platform has been more honest or sincere or effective than Kanye West has been, maybe in generations. It's all pretty shocking, really. Talk about an unlikely messenger. But it's real. Check out Wes' Twitter feed if you haven't seen it. Not everything he says is conservative. Far from it. Not everything he says is even intelligible. But when West talks about his faith and about the gift of human life, you start to ask yourself, why aren't there any elected Republicans who sound like that? If they say they believe the same things, but if they actually do, why don't they talk like Kanye West does? And the answer, of course, is because they're afraid to. But West is not afraid. He doesn't have to be. He's too famous. He's made too much money. He sold something like 150 million albums over the past 20 years.

1:01:32 And really it's hard to cancel a guy like that. Yeah, I saw this I Yeah, I guess money is the is a big factor money is a really big factor or perception perception perception some perception Well, it's not only money is because actual Kanye has true supporters. I mean he doesn't have to put out another album He doesn't have to release another sneaker right? It's that he has built up with such a Equity with people I'm not going to say a race or gender but just with people whatever he says whatever he feels he say he says right and when somebody has that kind of respect and Use the word get equity with people it's hard to destroy him because it's like I

1:02:25 This guy has always told us what he felt. He's like, Beyonce had a better video. Yeah, George Bush don't care about black people. So when you build up, whether you like him or not, when you build up that kind of respect and clout, You can't cancel it because it's... I love that. He's fascinating. I mean, he's a fascinating person. I remember that live broadcast and he's there with Bon Jovi and what else was it with John Stewart. It's like, George Bush don't care about black people. Everyone's like, what? Yeah, it was Mike something. Oh, Mike Myers, Mike Myers, Mike Myers. Mike Myers, yeah. SNL, yeah. Where's he at anyway? Back to Canada. I don't know. He's counting his money, man. I don't know. He's fine. Yeah.

1:03:14 No, I'm just saying but he has that kind of equity and he made like don't ever forget or always underestimate the power of him making always remember that he made Jesus walk. I mean like that may seem small to some people But that opened him up to be seen a whole different way. Sorry. What do you mean? He made a lot of people he made Jesus walk the song Oh Yes walks, yeah To do that in hip-hop at that time when you like 50 Cent was like the biggest, you know It was all about gangster rap and being hard. Mm-hmm. Here's a guy's like where everybody's digging I'm a zag right? He always does that right when everybody goes super woke liberal here. He comes being I'm saying more conservative. I mean he always is on that cutting edge culture and center Yeah, and that's a problem because when your trendsetter starts to talk about

1:04:12 things that actually destabilize the power structure of the Democratic Party, you have to take note. And as Tucker Carlson says, they can't use the normal council tactics to it. And even this next clip, Tucker Carlson is going to allude, knowingly or unknowingly, he's going to allude to butt breaking himself. So what does the left do in response to Kanye West? How do you make Kanye West shut up? The short answer is you can't, so you work to discredit him. You go ad hominem. You ignore what he's saying. You attack him as a person. You don't engage with his ideas you know you would lose if you tried that. So instead you try to keep people from listening to him.

1:04:54 It's an easier job when you're dealing with less famous people. Thanks to our centrally controlled internet, the left can usually silence dissent in an instant with the press of a button. But with prominent wrong thinkers like Kanye West, censorship requires a finer touch, more artistic flair. In Kanye West's case, they decided to attack him as mentally ill. You hear that a lot now. But it's a relatively new tactic. It was just a little over four years ago that CNN published a piece about Kanye West. They highlighted his most famous moments, like the time he interrupted Taylor Swift at the MTV Video Music Awards. CNN described all these incidents as, quote, controversial.

1:05:33 But there was no mention of Kanye West being a danger to himself, much less mentally ill. No, just controversial. Not a problem. And then West appeared to say something positive about Donald Trump and everything changed in an instant. Kanye West became a babbling lunatic, the kind of guy who pulls imaginary insects out of the air and soils his own pants. A total nutcase. That's good. There you have it. I mean, he gets it. He's like that and they have to use a very nuanced way, you know to tear this man down not the ideas but the person at home in him. I mean go after him. Absolutely, right? But isn't that the point of debate is to bring your ideas to the table if they're so crazy, um

1:06:23 Then you know they're easy to you know easy to debunk or defeat it is so functional and just on the young people for a second yeah, I have conversations with the Millennials and If it comes up here who you're gonna vote for I said I really like Kanye and it's like Pavlovian response boom head snaps back eye rolls It was so effective that just he's nuts now. They'll still dance to his songs and Wear his sneakers, but please He's crazy. Okay, right, but that's that go to show you how powerful he is because they can't do it They won't burn his sneakers and you know His CDs and that kind of thing. Oh, so long as he's making great art. He still has power I will say this about the abortion thing because I don't that's one of the things like um, the birther ism It's a non-starter. So we don't talk about a lot on the show. I

1:07:23 because there's no win, no matter what side you're on. But I will say this, the topic of abortion, that is a very strong argument in the black community. I'll say this, That was part of the reason why Bush won in 2012 in his re-election. There was a large amount of black people that went and voted or didn't vote on that one topic. So, Kanye's been giving the talking points like push abortion, push black men, push mental slavery, these things. So, if he keeps driving home this Jesus and abortion thing, he's gonna reach older blacks.

1:08:10 The younger blacks, like I said, they're either with Kanye or not gonna be swayed. And really, it is what it is, but those older blacks, As long as he keeps saying it, when I say older, I'm saying 40 and up. Okay, that's important to know. What media are they consuming? Are they also on Twitter seeing it and paying attention? Because this is all much younger medium type stuff in general, I think in general. They're paying attention because you know they watch MSNBC, Joy Read, those kind of things. So when you have him on there,

1:08:47 That's the point. It's just like, you know, birtherism, birther, you know, the birther argument. Trump knew how, he knew how it was going to land, but it's like, it's the bigger, you know, it's the bigger win because they're going to talk about something I want them to talk about. And this is an argument that Democrats can't win and they can't. And we'll talk more about that later. But I will say this, there is some esoteric connections between Donald Trump and Kanye West. One being the Dragon Energy. And I don't know if you've checked Twitter today, but right now my Twitter feed is just tweets from Donald Trump and Kanye West.

1:09:32 Kanye is getting kind of political. He tweeted, my MAGA hat is signed followed by 30 fire emojis. Now that is fitting because that is how many times I would set that hat on fire. I think Kanye's lobbying for a job as Trump's new communications director. He could just change his name to Kellyanne Kanye. But the height of Kanye's Trump praise has got to be when he tweeted, you don't have to agree with Trump, but

CHAPTER 11 / 30 Discussion

Taylor Swift Snake Emojis and Media Manipulation

A brief discussion covers recent TMZ reports regarding Kanye West using snake emojis, which the media interpreted as a renewed attack on Taylor Swift. This is framed as a tactic to bring West "back in line" by reminding the public of his past controversies with a "lily-white" woman. The hosts suggest this is a recurring media play used whenever West becomes politically inconvenient.

taylor swift· kanye west· tmz· snake emoji· media narrative

1:08:47 That's the point. It's just like, you know, birtherism, birther, you know, the birther argument. Trump knew how, he knew how it was going to land, but it's like, it's the bigger, you know, it's the bigger win because they're going to talk about something I want them to talk about. And this is an argument that Democrats can't win and they can't. And we'll talk more about that later. But I will say this, there is some esoteric connections between Donald Trump and Kanye West. One being the Dragon Energy. And I don't know if you've checked Twitter today, but right now my Twitter feed is just tweets from Donald Trump and Kanye West.

1:09:32 Kanye is getting kind of political. He tweeted, my MAGA hat is signed followed by 30 fire emojis. Now that is fitting because that is how many times I would set that hat on fire. I think Kanye's lobbying for a job as Trump's new communications director. He could just change his name to Kellyanne Kanye. But the height of Kanye's Trump praise has got to be when he tweeted, you don't have to agree with Trump, but

1:10:12 But the mob can't make me not love him. We are both dragon energy. He is my brother. I love everyone. I don't agree with everything anyone does. That's what makes us individuals and we have the right to independent thought. Yes, we have the right to independent thought and I independently think that Kanye has lost his mind. You know what, Kanye? You know what? Donald Trump is your brother it is true I am your brother too and brother to brother I just want to say put the phone down. Kellyanne Kanye was funny that was a good line. But yeah so there is some connection between Donald Trump and Kanye. The dragon energy.

1:11:04 the dragon energy, and no, when you start to look into that kind of thing, as I had to, I found Dr. Janine Lim, and she talks about just get a little background on her. She's worked in the high tech industry over 30 years, excuse me, over 20 years. She's currently a chief marketing officer at Hanson Robotics. And was a marketing director for Dale Cisco and 3com. So I mean, this is a serious lady She has a PhD and integrated and holistic health. So she's gonna give us a Talk about decoding. Excuse me decoding this serpent power Also known as the Kundalini

1:11:50 So the approach that I'm taking is to explore several seemingly independent concepts around energy and then later on to connect the dots to provide a Western description of the origin and cause of Kundalini. First, what is Kundalini? So just to answer this question, I've uncovered a lot of different interpretations and a lot of different definitions. A key problem seems to be Kundalini is a word from Hindu scriptures and there's no real equivalent in English. And so Kundalini is usually described as the primordial dormant energy present in three and a half coils at the base of the spine in a triangular bone called the sacrum.

1:12:39 And it's usually presented as sexual energy that is with us from birth. And interestingly, in the West, it has sometimes been diagnosed as a physical or psychological disorder because the spiritual awakening process often triggers alterations in thoughts and emotions and bodily symptoms that result in the process frequently being mistaken for mental illness. I like that. Nice. Just to go back a little bit, you remember Mary Ann Williamson? Yes. When she did that prayer? Kundalini, that's the first thing I thought about when I heard the term come back. Right. So when Kanye broke down, when he was talking about his daughter and crying and stuff, it looked like he was having a manic episode. But I think probably his kundalini energy was on 10.

1:13:35 And he just had a, um, some kind of manifestation. Yeah, and it came from his midriff, kind of. He was doubling over a little bit, and that's a good observation. I saw that it was real. Something real was happening there. Something very real to him. Yeah, sure. And you know him realizing this awakening Yeah, go ahead I say him realizing that his dad had almost had him aborted the way he had done with with his daughter and It actually looked like he realized that at that moment or or he was there was something going on and the midriff thing Yeah, Kundalini. Why not make sense and it's we have to watch this like I

1:14:23 Kelly I mean Mary Ann Williamson. Yeah, she dabbles in this kind of stuff She was talking reparations trying to help black people now We have Kanye West talking to Donald Trump talking about the dragon slash serpent energy and then just came across my phone Five minutes before we do the show and I'm just gonna show you how to book breaking continues Let me open my phone up right quick. Where's it at? Um, I It was on TMZ. Basically, they were saying that how, uh, Kanye texted that, can you use snake emojis? And they were like, he's coming at the Taylor Swift. So now what they want to do is right. I'm against the white girl supposedly.

1:15:08 You see? I ain't had to say it. And they've used this before, like whenever they wanted to get back in line. Oh, you remember what he did to Taylor Swift? This sweet, innocent, lack of better word, lily white, you know, pure snow white woman. So you can't be for this black man. Yeah, this is what we had just came across and it's like, hold on, like you can't use... Snake emoji. What do you mean? You can't, right. And I don't understand why Kanye would say that either when you're talking about certain dragon energy or serpent energy, but that's not here nor there. But that's my rap on Kanye. I'm waiting for the interview. I put this off because I thought he would probably do an interview. I really want to hear from him actually. Because I mean, like you said, Kanye West and Donald Trump are like opposites. And the reason why I say that is

CHAPTER 12 / 30 Discussion

Trump and Kanye as Strategic Opposites

Donald Trump and Kanye West are described as complementary opposites: Trump excels on stage before crowds, while West is more effective in one-on-one conversations. Trump's recent shift toward "CEO-style" daily briefings is noted, suggesting he is leaving the "crazy" headlines to West, who acts as a hired gun to keep the narrative moving in the absence of traditional rallies.

donald trump· kanye west· media strategy· daily briefings· rallies

1:16:03 Kanye he's better when he's sitting down one-on-one having a conversation where Donald Trump is better on the stage Yes, you're so right charged up right now I don't think I don't think Kanye's does very well with like going off the cuff to large crowds No, in fact, he does his ADHD it distracts him He ping-pongs around and it's easier when someone else is driving the conversation with a question. You can just boom fire back and say it and Then you got let him guy just let him get his ideas out, right? Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much it on Kanye. I think this is gonna backfire and blow up in the Democrats face if they keep bothering him because the more you bother him and poke him the more he's gonna talk about two topics that you really don't want to talk with Talk about what a lot of black people. I think black black people so-called black people have a

1:17:00 uh... what's the word i'm looking for uh... cognitive dissonance when it comes to abortion and those things when they support the democratic party it's just like yeah yeah yeah you know because it does and It's perceived that we're being targeted by that practice, but may I die? I'll... That's a topic we could get into. It's a long topic if we want. I've done a lot of research on Planned Parenthood and poor communities. And I'm not doing, like I said, whatever your pro-life or pro-abortion, and I will say that term, I'm not going to say pro-choice because that's misleading. That's a misnomer for what you're saying. I mean if you're for it, you're for it. I mean like if you're saying this practice is necessary,

1:17:51 No, and certain communities fine. We'll stand behind it. Don't try to hide it. You're saying what it is It's a politically correct or acceptable term. So I mean whichever side you're on I mean, that's your business at the end of the day I'm like there were a lot of things but What we have to do is look at it in a political sense, that's because of what we do here on the show, and that's a loser for the Democrats if you actually talk about it. It really gets, yeah, it really comes. And it's interesting that just in this past month or so, it's become generally accepted and acknowledged that Margaret Sanger, who was the founder of Planned Parenthood, was indeed a eugenics, a stout and vocal eugenicist.

1:18:34 And that's something that we've known for years and years and years and years. And now suddenly it's like, well, we all know that Marjorie West is saying, what? Since when did it become okay to talk about that? And then when they start looking and see who won that award, I mean, you're going to start, you know, that yearly award, then we're going to start looking at things a lot differently. And that's why I said, If they can make Kanye go away, it would be best. I think they need to leave him alone and stop reporting if I'm giving the Democrats political advice. They can't. It's too good. And you say Trump and Kanye are opposites. Yes, they also fill each other in. When Trump has a lull in his attention, Kanye is poised to jump in. I think I'm going to pay attention to that. There may be some coordination there. And that's what basically with no rallies,

1:19:24 Now you have to keep the narrative going and that's what Kanye is doing because he doesn't need the large crowd, he can get the same energy. I bet you the conversation is going just by tweeting about him. What's interesting Moe is that Trump has changed significantly. And it's the past two weeks, he started doing daily briefings himself, just himself talking. He may bring somebody up, hey, tell me what's going on. And in fact, what he's doing now is the way I see it. This is a CEO bringing a quarterly report to his shareholders. That's the vibe he's got. And he knows how to do this. It's like, you always wanna make everything positive. This is what he does.

1:20:12 But he's no longer doing the crazy. Pay attention. He's not yelling at Twitter. Okay, there's still some stuff, but even they just look at his demeanor. The press, there was a journalist yesterday said, Mr. Trump, do you regret three and a half years, 10,000 lies? And Trump's like, what did you say? He says, the lying, he says, who's lying? You. He said, and he just went to the next person. Where before he would have focused, gone off, counterattacked. It's very advantageous to have someone who's a little crazy when Trump is not being that crazy. That's why I call Kanye a hired gun. I mean, that's what he is. He is go out there and do the crazy. Right. And now I can get back to my rallies. This may be more sophisticated than we think what's going on between those two.

CHAPTER 13 / 30 Discussion

Kamala Harris VP Pick, Prosecution Record, and "Cagney and Lacey"

The selection of Kamala Harris as Joe Biden's running mate is criticized as a "dumb" political move, with the hosts referring to the ticket as "Cagney and Lacey." Harris's record as a prosecutor and her past actions criminalizing parents for truancy are cited as reasons why she lacks support among "woke" activists and many Black voters. The discussion suggests the Democratic Party felt forced to pick a Black woman but chose one with a problematic law enforcement background.

kamala harris· joe biden· vice president· stacey abrams· prosecution

1:21:05 I would think so. Especially when you talk about the drag energy. It goes way deeper than just a rapper and a businessman. It goes way deeper. But since we're talking about snakes, of He has spent the, has unified the American people because he spent his life fighting for us. As president, he'll build an America that lives up to our ideals. I'm honored to join him as our party's nominee for vice president and do what it takes to make him commander in chief.

1:21:56 and what really struck my eye was this pledge that they took together and the pledge really caught my eyes when they were like we're going to take on powerful people and powerful interests and I couldn't think of something more antithetical than what I I everything that could possibly matter. Look, we've just had this mass protest movement about race and justice and policing. And the answer to that is someone who went out of her way to criminalize parents who take kids and go to school, went after nonviolent marijuana users like she came up through politics in this very lock them up way. I mean, that's a way to put it.

1:22:54 This had to be the dumbest VP pick I ever seen outside of, well, this might be even dumber than Sarah Palin. I liked Sarah Palin, honestly. No, I'm just saying from a political standpoint. Well, she was good until she didn't have the chops to handle Jane Pauley. I mean, she screwed up. That's why I said it's even dumber because if you just kept her talking points, she could have been advantageous for McCain. Yeah. Hello, nobody likes Kamala Harris. Black people cancelled her, you know what I'm saying? At the very beginning, if you want to use the word cancel, we were like, no, we don't want her because we know what she's about. Okay, now stop for a second because there's no doubt you have woke friends and family

1:23:47 who probably don't listen to your, they may not even know about this podcast. Which I understand, believe me. Is it across the board? I mean, are they denying history and they think she's a great pick? I mean, what are you feeling from your community? Okay, live report from the community The community what are you learning boots on the ground here Adam for the community All seriousness when you look at Kamala Harris she's not woke enough to

1:24:32 I mean if you want to go woke, do you go Stacey Abrams? Right? I mean if that's what you if you say okay if you say I gotta go black woman and they had to go black woman. Don't get it twisted. The black women flex their muscles on the Democratic Party and let them know and that goes to show how much juice they have. And it said and what did you didn't matter what kind of black woman as long as the skin color was dark. Well that's a problem. Let me go down the list of things. One, She's not woke enough to be woke and she's a cop. I mean anyway you slice it She's what I mean by that is when you're talking about talking to we're talking about the the woke people the black lives matter You know black ink the the Marxist those kind of things. I

1:25:19 They can't get behind this. It's like, you want me to vote for a company? It's bad enough it was Joe Biden. What is this, like Cagney and Lacey? I mean, what are you doing here? Cagney and Lacey. That's good. No, I'm just saying like that. So that segment of it. And then I'm going to be honest, there's going to be a segment of black women that are not going to like Kamala Harris because of her color. Her her appearance. This is a real fact her actual what do you mean her appearance? She's attractive. She's fair-skinned straight hair. You know. Oh, she has good hair

1:25:57 Right. Yeah, yeah. You've been doing the work, Adam. Come on, man. Come on. I've been around. I know. But I'm just saying that's going to turn a segment off. And like when you start digging into her prosecution record, when you start talking about she locked poor black moms up, I don't understand what they... They were like, OK, this is who we're going with. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. I just realized that's an interesting point. How can any Black woman, Ados, identify with Kamala Harris. And specifically because my ex-ex-wife had a cosmetics company and I learned a lot about different skin tones, colors, etc. Black women's hair

1:26:48 is an issue so vast and large neither of us are qualified to speak about it, but it's a huge deal what another so-called black woman's hair is like. Oprah has been, you know, this has been one of the main talking points from what I know. Yes. And that could actually be more of a problem than you or I even realize. It's not lost on me. I mean, because I understand the psychology of it. It's gonna be like, she's the pretty light-skinned chick with the good hair. And that's why I always say if they wanted to go with a black woman, they should have went with Stacey Abrams because she gives the vibe of a real... The party clearly didn't want her, man. They did not want her. Which leads me to believe they don't want black people and they don't really want Joe to win. I can't see it any other way. Well, I think they can get the sympathy vote.

1:27:52 If they come out, you know, and then it's a black woman under attack, it's an older man, you know, with a little slippage under attack. The Republicans have to be very careful. Now I'm gonna give a little advice to them. Don't over play your hand. Oh yeah, totally, totally, totally. Be careful. With the, yeah, with the senile, dementia black woman you know kind of thing just they're gonna shoot theirselves in the foot cuz they have a record they have to have this plane but yeah she was the worst pick out of all of them you could go all I think Valerie Demings I think that her name was yeah I like I liked Val Demings I liked her a lot right did not not agreeing with that she's also very woke but I saw her in some of those hearings

1:28:36 with the Silicon Valley douchebags and she was prepared she knew what she was doing I was impressed by her. Yeah so I mean it's just Kamala Harris comes off as phony just to you know the people she's trying to reach not to me I'm talking about to the people she's trying to reach you know I mean she gives these canned answers and Don't know what the Democrats are thinking. I think maybe they all we all she's just like the female Obama You know that well bro Obama is a commodity In these in these times Maybe it gets shrunk. Yeah, but I'm saying I guess just in If he had to run over with what we know about him now, he wouldn't win I I know I know from inside the the publishing world that you know I

1:29:25 When I was talking to a publisher about doing my book until I saw the contracts like morality clause see ya The big thing in the industry was You know, you really, you can't release your book near the end of the summer because the Obama book is coming. Obama book. It's now 18 months late. He's not even delivered the manuscript. They can't even get it out before the election, which I think was supposed to... That to me is a surefire signal that if Obama doesn't come up with his book, which seems impossible almost at this point, then that's not the final punch they've got, you know, because that's what it would be.

CHAPTER 14 / 30 Discussion

Black Women Voters Matter and the "Miracle Worker" Narrative

A throwback clip features activists like Latasha Brown and Angela Rye asserting that Black women are the "miracle workers" of the Democratic Party and that Biden "owes" them. They explicitly demanded a Black woman Vice President, warning that candidates like Amy Klobuchar would fail to energize the base. The hosts argue that while Black women have significant influence, their vote is rendered less effective if Black men "sit on their hands."

latasha brown· black voters matter· amy klobuchar· joe biden· black women

1:30:06 Some kind of what are you gonna talk about though? Well, just you're gonna talk way just to have him Go and promote the book and have a reason to be places and and give the final push to the candidate Yeah, but I just don't think I think he's ineffective just like Kamala Harris. Totally the a a DOS community Yeah, they're done with him People are in when I say that I'm talking about an alienation not the political group. Um, I They're asking questions now, like why is it every time we turn around, it's somebody not ADOS? But we'll talk about that in a few clips. What I want to talk about now is black women flexing their muscles. And this is a throwback clip from show 38. And this was Latasha Brown, the co-founder of Black Voters Matter, Tiffany D. Cross, a political analyst, Brittany Packnett,

1:30:59 Cunningham activist Alicia Garza she was in it. Sonny Halston, Angela Rye, and Amanda Seals. Yeah all the good ones. This is when they flexed their muscles and told the Democratic Party what was gonna be. Vice President Biden you need us. You owe us. Black women are miracle workers. We have been saving the Democratic Party since 1965. 2020 is no different. Your only path to victory is through black women. The voters who need to turn out, we know how to mobilize them. Our votes must not be taken for granted.

1:31:42 The following commitments will begin to show black voters that you are serious about us. America needs a black woman vice president. Candidates like Amy Klobuchar will not energize us. America needs a black woman Supreme Court justice. Remember Anita Hill? We do. America needs more in a comprehensive black agenda. The rules are rigged against our communities. Oh, nice how they slipped in Anita Hill. Of course, Joe Biden presided over the Anita Hill, Clarence Thomas hearings and at the time came across as firm and smart. But you look at what was going on, man, that's douchey. And what I want people to clearly understand here is

1:32:33 They pretty much told the Democrats you give us this woman Are you want you want you or you won't see us in November and that's an automatic L, right? But the only problem is they can't get black men to fall in line with them So I mean and that's the best of best of which problem in a nutshell by itself Didn't sound like they were wanted in that little clip. They don't but see I But that's their dirty little secret, right? It's like well we turn out a 90% you know, but it's you can't convince the people that we need aka Black men to show up to the polls, right? You showed up at 95% for Hillary Clinton I think 85 89 percent. Oh, I'm saying all the voting population black female voting population went to um, what's the um, Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton and

1:33:27 still lost. It doesn't matter. As long as black men sit on their hands and say, you know what, until you come with those tangibles, until you come with those, you know, something that's, you know, we can, we can feel, touch and see and smell. We're not going to vote. It renders the black woman vote useless. Now they could threaten the Democrat. I mean, the Democrats had to do what they had to do because if they pick Amy Klobuchar or anybody that's a non-black female, that's an arm and a loss. That's an automatic loss because I mean they would have just came out and destroyed Joe Biden. So I mean don't don't get it twisted that how much power this this this Democrat graphic has but it's not as much power as it could be. Well it's not enough it's not enough numbers it's literally not enough numbers but they're very powerful. But they don't seem to be able to I guess the idea is you better bring your black man along

CHAPTER 15 / 30 Discussion

Dr. Safiya Noble on Disinformation and Russian Interference

Dr. Safiya Noble, a professor at UCLA, warns on the Karen Hunter Show that Black voters are being targeted by "disinformation" regarding the criminal justice records of Biden and Harris. The hosts mock this claim, noting that the "disinformation" in question is actually the candidates' own recorded words and past policies. They suggest that the "Russian interference" narrative is used to dismiss legitimate critiques from the Black community.

safiya noble· disinformation· kamala harris· joe biden· ucla

1:34:24 Or at least that's the point. That's the point. And that's the wink wink, nah, nah. It's like, now we'll give you this. Now you got to browbeat them into getting out and voting. And no sooner than when she was nominated, the browbeating began with a daughter, Noble on Karen Hunter's show about Biden's VP pick. Yeah, that just happened. I said that! Did I say that? You predicted it. Yes, you did. You get credit. You get credit, Dr. Noble. You get credit. Yes. I mean, it needs to be recorded, right? Yes, it is. We have it. You said it. You said it. You said it was going to happen and it's now happened. And I wonder how algorithmically can we help this ticket? Should we search? If we search Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and make that, you know, would that help?

1:35:16 Yes, because let me tell you what the one thing you can be guaranteed is already happening is a flood of disinformation and this information is going to be moving and is already I'm on different national task forces around disinformation in the political realm COVID-19 around a variety and black people are a major target for disinformation. So you can be guaranteed there's going to be a lot of information flowing about Biden and Kamala and that they are anti-Black, that all of the kind of

1:35:52 mass incarceration positions, law enforcement linking Kamala in every way to every kind of anti-Black Lives Matter message that you can imagine. That's going to be flooding the internet and people need to be smart and understand how racism gets weaponized. Yeah, sounded like all true things to me. What's her name again, this woman who was speaking? This is uh, S-S-Safaya Noble, Dr. Safaya Noble. She's a professor at UCLA. Okay. Yeah, I just want to put her in the show notes.

1:36:32 But yeah, you hear that it's going right out the back. Maybe we could play the last 20 seconds of that clip just to listen to her rundown. But you know, it's all that different information about their criminal justice records. Yeah, that's crazy talk. Here we go. Kamala and that they are anti-black, that all of the kind of mass incarceration positions, law enforcement linking Kamala in every way to every kind of anti-Black Lives Matter message that you can imagine. That's going to be flooding the internet and people need to be smart and understand like how racism gets weaponized. What is her deal? People have to be smart. What is her deal? What does she do that she's

1:37:20 That she's all jacked that she predicted it which means she's on the inside. What does she do? Yeah, well, this is gonna be a weird It's a big win. I thought you asked me on show I think number one or number two When I'll start bringing up this point about black women and their voting power and how they're gonna be targeted I mean we've been known this from the very beginning and I said ego. Yeah, you're right. It's a bald ego. I You can't tell me that a black, quote unquote, black or whatever, however you want to say it, I can't even say quote unquote, I don't know what she is, but you can't tell me she's going to be more powerful than old Obama that was actually in the, you know what I'm saying, in the main seat.

1:38:05 If he couldn't get it done, we ended up worse off than ever before after eight years of him. I fear what's going to happen. Yeah, well we must also realize that the general accepted knowledge of this VP pick, and they're not even the official candidates yet, they still have their convention. Is that tomorrow or next week? It's coming up. So I still have to actually get all the votes from the party. But what everyone out there is clearly saying is, well, you're really voting for the next president because Joe is pretty much going to keel over the minute it's all done if they win. Well, they had the 25th Amendment baked in. They've been pushing that for the last three years. So it would be nothing but easy to pivot to that. Yeah, we know how to use that. That's easy. Exactly.

1:38:52 Yeah, so that'll be easy pivot and nobody will bat an eye if you know Joe got rolled out of here. But the disinformation even she said black people are the most, you know, receive the most disinformation. Now, if I understand it correctly, the majority of the media is liberal. Yeah. So I'm just saying about my math skills, If we're the most targeted for disinformation, that means that liberal media has to be doing a large portion of providing the bad information. I mean just by math, I'm just trying to talk sense. I know math is racist. I mean I get it. That's what the Russians are doing, man. They're the ones doing it on behalf of Donald Trump. Don't you see how it all fits together?

CHAPTER 16 / 30 Discussion

Joe Biden 1994 Crime Bill and Kamala Harris Truancy Letters

Audio clips from the 1990s show Joe Biden advocating for more police, prosecutors, and prison cells to "catch the violent thugs." Another clip features Kamala Harris bragging about using her "huge stick" as a prosecutor to threaten parents with jail time over school truancy. The hosts argue these clips prove that the "anti-Black" labels being applied to the ticket are based on factual history rather than disinformation.

joe biden· 1994 crime bill· kamala harris· truancy· mass incarceration

1:39:42 Well you know what I dug and dug and dug and I was able to surface bring some of that disinformation to the surface in 18. Oh what he proposes is no increase over what the congress has already approved last year. In a nutshell, the president's plan doesn't include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs, not enough prosecutors to convict them, not enough judges to sentence them, and not enough prison cells to put them away for a long time. That's why right now, six out of every ten criminals who are arrested on drug charges have their cases dropped.

1:40:21 That's why we think the president should triple, triple the commitment that he's made tonight for police, prosecutors and judges for our cities and our states. If you haven't heard the breakdown of this disinformation about the 94 crime bill, what show was that Mo? Do you remember what episode that was that we did that? I know it's called Black Don't Crack. So I'm not sure which number it was. But that was the title, Black Don't Crack. But yeah, that's your disinformation right out of Joe's mouth. So I don't know how you go. What kills me is this lady puts her, Dr. Noble puts her credibility on the line. And this is what I'm going to show you that how sick operation it is. The sound bites are out there.

1:41:15 We live in the information age. People seeing links and clips and embedded videos all the time. How is this information? It's not, obviously, it's not disinformation. It's just a... No, but what makes a person like Dr. Noble put her... I'm just asking, I'm trying to wrap my head around it, I don't understand it. If you come to me and say, hey Moe, you know what I'm saying, I want you to, you know, here's a big bag of cash, I want you to talk good about Joe Biden. It's like, you know what? That bag of cash is not worth my integrity where I'll... it won't last me my lifetime. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're talking about a bag of cash that I can go and, you know, say Jamaica somewhere... I'm messing around. But no, I'm just saying, but what, I mean, you're going to be going to work tomorrow, Dr. Noble.

1:42:08 Like what do they offer you? But I know what it is. She wants that clout so she could say, you know I have access to the president or vice president, you know and that kind of thing They're probably sorority sister if I look deeper into it, which I didn't well Yes, the nepotism of political parties is that that's really what makes it all work episode number 30 now 28 by the way was black don't crack. Okay, 28. Thank you. Mm-hmm Yeah, so I have another piece of disinformation from... Oh no! More disinfo! Oh gosh. And frankly my staff went bananas. They were very concerned because we didn't know at the time whether I was going to have an opponent in my re-election race. But I said, look, I'm done. This is a serious issue and I've got a little political capital and I'm going to spend some of it. And this is what we did. We recognized that in that initiative

1:43:03 As a prosecutor in law enforcement, I have a huge stick. The school district has got to carry it. Let's work in tandem around our collective objective and goal, which is to get those kids in school. So, to that end, on my letterhead, now let me tell you something about my letterhead. When you're the DA of a major city in this country, usually the job comes with a badge. And there is often an artistic rendering of said badge on your stationery. So I sent a letter out on my letterhead to every parent in the school district, outlining the connection that was statistically proven between elementary school truancy, high school dropouts, who will become a victim of crime, and who will become a perpetrator of crime.

1:43:53 We sent it out to everyone. A friend of mine actually called me and he said, Kamala, my wife got the letter. She freaked out. She brought all the kids into the living room, held up the letter, said, if you don't go to school, Kamala's gonna put you and me in jail. Now, it's my understanding that she actually did put some people in jail for that. Yes! For the truancy. But that's disinformation. And like she said, I had some political capital and this is what I was spending it on, locking poor moms and kids up. Seriously, that's what you spent your political capital on. Yeah. And I'm gonna say, I'm not saying there's not a correlation between kids not going to school and ending up in the, what do we call it, the prison, the

1:44:44 was it called the classroom the prison pipeline of school the prison pipeline or whatever they want to call it yeah the numbers the numbers are there what i'm saying is she knows that these communities need intervention uh there's good citizens in these communities need protection and she just She knows it because she's talking about it now. I'm not saying that she's wrong at this instant But it's like she doesn't complete 180 to be self-serving to make you know, make political, you know for her political aspirations Sounds like a real politician to me Right, and that's why they said that's why they serve is no purpose because when it's all said and done

1:45:28 We shouldn't follow politicians. We should find politicians that represent what we believe. It's like right now we're looking for somebody to get behind. It's like no, what you're supposed to do is elevate people up that share your same beliefs and then you vote for them. Exactly. That's how it works. But no, they're like, oh, we got a brown woman over here. Oh, they'll love her. Yeah. They'll get in line behind her. Good to go. But we've heard this disinformation bit before. Because on the show 18, I know we got a lot of throwbacks But this is really that's why I use a song welcome back because we have two people Revisiting us that we called him early on right with all and Kanye bet you bet we are we were ahead of the curve on this and now it's like we're doubling back so we have to The new listeners out there to fill a man, you know own What we were pointing out. No, maybe what's that?

CHAPTER 17 / 30 Discussion

Joy Ann Reid, Shereen Mitchell, and the "Black Box"

Joy Ann Reid and Shereen Mitchell discuss "divisive" campaigns targeting Black voters on issues like reparations and immigration. They suggest that accounts asking for "tangibles" in exchange for votes are likely Russian-backed or designed to suppress the Democratic vote. The hosts counter that demanding something for a vote is basic political participation, not a foreign intelligence operation.

joy ann reid· shereen mitchell· reparations· black lives matter· russian bots

1:46:29 Almost 30 shows ago. Yeah, this comes for 18 This is a joy and read and Shereen Mitchell. Sure. I'm Mitchell. She's some kind of a Computer whiz algorithm weird weirds or something to that effect, but she talks about the arm attacks on the black voter because if we know as we've seen that the the what the ones who are the most valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused on getting black people to do only one thing, not vote for the Democrats. And can you name one of those five campaigns? I mean, we put up from the report that you're saying that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice conversation. There's an immigration...

1:47:19 reparations, immigration, and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system. So the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. Very quickly, we're out of time, but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing of Black Lives Matter and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do you even tell? You tell right away by the language that they use most of the time, but if you see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without us getting something back, you should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying, better look at those accounts and seeing what they're saying.

1:48:07 Oh, you're getting canceled and you're getting canceled if you're asking for something for your vote You're saying you got to be a Russian. That's That was the black wasn't that the black box episode I think it was Yeah, that was a black bar episode so and and to go to show you um, I don't have a clip for this But mr. Remember, mr. Diddy doing all the big talk about You know if they don't come with something tangible, I'm gonna hold the vote hostage. You remember that? Yeah, briefly. We covered it. He immediately came out and endorsed Kamala Harris.

1:48:45 Of course. Well, he's he's a bullet man. It's bullet. No, I'm just going to show you I mean they knew they that was all they're getting hip to like all we need to use is talking points and even they had a DL Healy on the view talking about reparations or whatever. It's like Okay, yeah, so when are y'all gonna ask Kamala Harris about reparations then? That's what I want to know. Here's something that you may or may not I Damn, gosh darn. I haven't clipped it yet There's a black lives matter apparently organizer. You probably saw the clip She's yelling everybody Hey if it's in Chicago

1:49:27 If people are stealing from the Gucci store, that's okay because I understand they need foods for the families." And then she said, you need to see this as reparations. And I to myself thought, that's some kind of really odd co-intel pro or something weird. There was a reason for that. It felt like, okay. And it was just that she's articulate, even through the mask, she's clear. I've never seen her before. I don't know who she was. But that to me was like stealing his reparations. That's that's real nice in that good. That's not good Mm-hmm. Have you seen that clip? Have you seen what you know? I haven't seen that I haven't seen that's new to me. Yes, but yeah, it's just But this is what they do if you if you think for yourself if you question anything if you question tangibles reparations Criminal justice thing you work for the Russians. That's just joy. That's joy and read. Yeah. Oh well

CHAPTER 18 / 30 Discussion

Jamal Trulove Case and the "Kristallnacht" Comparison

Jamal Trulove, a man wrongfully convicted of murder under Kamala Harris's tenure as DA, describes her presence at his sentencing as a "celebration of a conviction." The discussion shifts to a Black Lives Matter organizer in Chicago who defended looting as "reparations." Adam Curry compares the current climate of targeted looting to "Kristallnacht," suggesting a coordinated effort to instill fear.

jamal trulove· kamala harris· vice· looting· reparations

1:50:28 We've heard her talk about, we heard her, we heard Joe talk about criminal justice. We heard Kamala say she used her political capital to lock up mothers and children for truancy issues. Well let's listen to the innocent man that was sent to prison by Kamala Harris's prosecutors. I never talked to no detective, no police officer, no DA, nobody. Just arrested and then charged? Arrested and charged, that's it. Was the first time you saw Kamala Harris in person the day that the verdict was issued? She showed up at the two most pivotal times in this first trial.

1:51:07 And me being convicted and me being sentenced she wanted to be presence for a celebration of a conviction That's what it felt like a celebration a celebration. That's what it felt like the reactions I get when I tell people my story is they say it's the worst nightmare You know it's the closest thing to dying Jamal, I'm gonna read you a quote real quick. The job of a progressive prosecutor is to look out for those overlooked, to speak up for those whose voices aren't being heard, to see and address the causes of crime, not just their consequences, and to shine a light on the inequality and unfairness that lead to injustice. It is to recognize that not everyone needs punishment. What many need, quite obviously, is help. Kamala Harris wrote that in her book, The Truths We Hold.

1:51:57 Does that sound consistent with the kind of, with the brand of justice that you saw administered by offices that she was running? It definitely sounds like Kamala Harris right now as a senator. But at the time of her being the head district attorney of San Francisco, that is almost polar opposite of what I felt and what our community felt in San Francisco. Where'd that come from that clip? This is from the this is from the right ring right wing outlet called vice I'm being facetious tongue-in-cheek when I say that yeah, because I've used clips from Jimmy door right by this that are attacking Kamala Harris I mean, I mean it's quite clear that nobody likes her on the left either except for the except for Sean King and

1:52:53 No, you didn't see it? He jumped on the car, I didn't see this. Oh my goodness. He might lose his Black Lives Matter card. Oh, hold on a second. I gotta read this to you because, and maybe this was just a white Twitter thing, after all it's Sean King. There was this tweet going around, hold on a second, now I have to find it. And it showed his tweet about Kamala Harris before? That's Sean King. And then after the announcement, hold on a second, maybe under photos here. Yes, here it is. This is hilarious.

1:53:37 Sean King on November 14th 2018 I'll be frank and tell you to grip I'll be frank and tell you to Democrats that I'm 99% sure I won't be supporting Primarily because of their dismal history on criminal justice reform over the courses of their entire careers are Joe Biden and Kamala Harris They both held build an advanced mass incarceration fast forward August 11th, 2020. That's it for me. I'm incredibly proud to see a brilliant black woman, an HBCU grad, chose, chose as a vice presidential nominee. I've done political work my whole life. It's rarely things dreams are made of. Kamala Harris is the most progressive VP nominee in American history. Most progressive. Mm-hmm.

1:54:29 That's Sean King. Wow. He might be- But if you go back and listen to Joy Ann Reid, she said what's the difference between the real McCoy, Black Lives Matter, and these other- I mean so they're all in. Of course! There you go. That goes to show you that Black Lives Matter is willing to work with the police that they're trying to actually defund or are they really trying to defund? I mean like what is this? Power. Just power. Did they go way left to bring it back to the center? I mean you always do that in primaries. No. You go way left. No. Fascism. It's what it is. This is

1:55:07 Okay, it's easy to say this but having grown up in Europe and a lot of my friends their grandparents had numbers tattooed on their arms from concentration camps and So the Dutch of course long time ago. I think now he may be harder to find somebody but they were very clear the German the Hitler regime made the Germans a fear just fear they were fearful of everything and all you to do is point to a group says those guys and there was economic fear there were all kinds of fears and this is what's happening. Well that sounds a lot like butt-breaking because that's what they would do bringing up the biggest male out in front of everybody.

1:55:48 and emasculate them or kill them, lynch them, and then it would instill fear in everybody else. That was the function of that practice. Well, here's the thing that really moved it forward, the Kristallnacht. And it was the night that they went out, they went out and broke all the store windows and looted mainly Jewish windows because, you know, it was diamonds and antiques and gold and, you know, nice things. And yeah, I don't know. Gucci. Yeah, Gucci, exactly. No, no, I'm saying, I mean, compare, I mean like, yeah, right? It's the same thing, right? I mean, the Gucci stores and the Louis Vuitton store. I mean, yeah. I see you, George Soros. I see what you're doing. Back at it again. Old George. One more trip around the merry-go-round. Well, we were talking about bat-pelling and,

CHAPTER 19 / 30 Discussion

Laree Daniel Favors on Kamala Harris's Jamaican Roots

Laree Daniel Favors argues that Kamala Harris's Jamaican and Indian heritage does not disqualify her from the Black experience, claiming "the cops can't tell the difference." Moe Factz disputes this "Pan-African" narrative, asserting that the lineage and experience of ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) is distinct from that of Caribbean immigrants. He argues that lumping all Black people together ignores the specific claims ADOS have for reparations from the U.S. government.

laree daniel favors· kamala harris· jamaica· ados· pan-africanism

1:56:46 Doing a 180 on their previous stance. We have Laurie Daniels favorites here And she says that Kamala Harris is black and qualified Apparently, you know, her mother's Indian her father is Jamaican So therefore she's not a black American to many people but she black to me can't get a cab. Well, I'm sorry if you I need to understand so is this a virtue signal when you just dramatically go she black to me and Yeah, that's like you have to do the black voice and you say she black to me. Come on. That's lame This goes to show you but to be honest I'm glad you stopped that because I want to point out another thing you picked up on one ball point out another thing while we're here this goal to show you how dated of Karen hunters talking points is she said you can't catch a cab and

1:57:41 That's 1990s New York talk. What are you talking about, man? You can't catch a cab. That's right. Yeah, okay back to the proceed. No, no, you're right. You're right. I didn't hear that. So right apparently her mother's Indian. Her father is Jamaican. So therefore she's not a black American to many people, but she black to me can't get a cab. Well, I don't even nobody's taking a cab anymore. The cops can't tell the difference. So let me just put that out there. Police officers can't tell whether or not your parents were formerly or your ancestors formerly enslaved. They can't tell. Let me just say

1:58:19 Because the only place here I come on the record Jamaica was not a land of free black people I just want to be clear a lot of people seem to say well she traces her roots back to Jamaica not to slavery Pan-africanism the island of Jamaica was originally populated by indigenous people who were not African the Africans who arrived in Jamaica from whence descended folks like Bob Marley, my mother, you know, these are people who were enslaved Africans who were often on the same ship as those enslaved Africans who landed in South Carolina. They just happened to be off at an earlier stop. Oh, you're saying that the ship from Africa dropped those Africans off different places? And then from South, from, from the islands to South Carolina, where most of us,

1:59:03 Wow, Laree, man. Man. So then same people, same people just dropped off? Okay. That's just crazy. They just, they went to the island of Jamaica and they just dropped them off for a little pit stop, you know? No problem. That's insulting. This is what I'm talking about. This is very insulting. It's the Pan-Africanism. There's no historical proof for this. If I were to say that there was no difference between the blacks in America or Ados and Jamaicans, Jamaicans would be highly offended. Like, of course there's a difference in our culture. Hell yeah. We do A, B, C, D. I have been to Jamaica 15 times. I've done a documentary. Nice.

1:59:51 Oh yes, the holy urban eye are kindred spirits. I've been to Tuff Gong, I've been to Hope Road, I've really, I've done a lot. I love Jamaican people. They're not the same as American blacks, come on! It's completely different. Nobody has the same experience as American blacks. You go to Jamaica, you talk about their heroes, it's Marcus Garvey! That's their guy! Not Martin Luther King, Marcus Garvey! That's their guy. And you know, we suppress Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X here, so that's a no-go. But it's just that they want to merge us all together. Now I get what she said. I kind of understand. Well, let me say this.

2:00:33 The narrative that we all came in slave ships is BS in the first place, but I'll park that for a later date. Please do. Please do. I look forward to that. Next show. Put a marker in that one. Now it's going to take me about three or four weeks to put that one together because that's going to blow a lot of people's tops off. But I will say this, that the narrative that, oh yeah, we just made one stop and then came and made another stop and dropped some more black people off there, they're all the same. You don't understand the argument of the lineage of ADOS. What we're saying is America, America the nation owes the black people that was held under slavery in this country

2:01:19 We have a specific claim. Now we're not saying if we're successful in achieving our goals that we wouldn't hand off our blueprint to the Jamaicans and the Haitians and all other groups to, you're saying, be repaired by the nations that held them captive. By the way, the Haitians are the only enslaved people who did actually rebel against their captors, France, and it's still messed up there. Right, I'm just saying though, but to lump us all together and they say, oh yeah, we're all black. I mean, that's what they're doing here. It's like, hold on, hold on. Well, this is clearly, it's clearly, they must believe that if you have a darker skin color, it's automatic racism across the board from everybody, from the cab to the cops to the cake maker.

CHAPTER 20 / 30 Discussion

Laree Daniel Favors and the "Obama Phone" Lady

A clip of Laree Daniel Favors shows her passionately condemning Michael Bloomberg's "racist" stop-and-frisk policies, only to admit she would still vote for him if he were the nominee. Adam Curry identifies her as the "Obama Phone" lady from a famous viral video. The hosts criticize her for having "little respect for Black men," including her own husband, by prioritizing party loyalty over personal dignity.

laree daniel favors· michael bloomberg· stop and frisk· obama phone· voting

2:02:14 No, because I must I must say no to that and I'm gonna prove it and not the next clip with the following, okay but They are just making excuses and trying to throw anything gets the wall that sticks because this is one of your favorite clips It's a throwback clip. Yeah of Miss Lurie Daniel favors and she goes on her rant about who she's gonna vote for or not vote for. Bloomberg is responsible not just for stop and frisk, furthering it, systematizing it, glorifying it, defending it up until last year when he decided he was gonna run, but he was surrounded by intellectuals, black activists, activists of color,

2:02:55 across the entire spectrum who outlined for him the problems. New York City Lawyers Association, Night Clue, the data, the statistics, he had facts, he had information, and he was committed to a racist policy that jailed black people, arrested black people, stop and frisk black people. I had 32 students, Bushwick 32, 32 students who were on their way to a funeral, had permission from their principals, had letters from their parents, accosted by the cops, Held for 36 hours had to go to trial had to get an and my husband is beat up in court by court officers at their defense trial because the way in which police and court officers were militarized against black and brown communities and you expect us to just eat that he's got money so he's going to be the best candidate? Gentrification. Bedford-Stuyvesant, Crown Heights, Eastern York, Flatbush, Harlem, the Bronx. Black people driven out of this city under policies that favored wealthy white people and developers. We cannot even

2:03:53 not even sustain our communities right now. Education! He undermined the ability for us to have culturally competent education. You want me to say, because he can beat Trump? So Trump gonna, he's gonna do what he do, Bloomberg gonna do what he do, and yeah he might win, but guess what? All y'all getting arrested. All y'all getting stopped and visited. He implements the same policies across the country that he furthered and supported in the state of New York. Give me a break. We can do better than this. And I'm sorry I got to agree with Meghan McCain, but now I'm upset. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to add that. If he's the nominee, are you going to vote for him? I don't think he should be the nominee. If he's the nominee, because that's a strong possibility. If he's the nominee, knowing and having said everything that I just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and the system in this country works, yes, I will have to vote for him. I love this. That is the best clip.

2:04:42 And I, and this of course not the first time I've heard it, I think I recognize where she's from. It was bothering me for so long. I know where I've heard her before during the Obama years. Let's just listen again. Okay, hold on a second. Bloomberg is responding but he was surrounded by intellectuals, black activists, activists of color across the entire spectrum who outlined, he had information and he was committed to a racist policy that jailed black people, arrested black people, stopped and frisked black people. 32 students, Bushwick 32, 32 students who were on their way to a funeral. It's her, Moe. It's the Obama phone lady. I'm telling you, that's her.

2:05:28 But I go to show you it doesn't matter who she now she blamed Mark Bloomberg for her husband everything everything But I'll vote for him come on you know I gotta show you how sick in the head She is cuz you're from New York, which is a blue state Which is a blue state yeah Bob Bob far margin right mm-hmm. You know what you know I If I was in a closer race, I would vote for him. But the fact that my husband was assaulted under his, uh, yeah, I can't, I can't bring myself to do it. I can't do it. He whipped your husband's ass. I'm still voting for him. That goes to show you how little respect, how little respect she actually has for black men, especially your own husband, your own husband. So you think they're not going to vote for a so-called black woman?

CHAPTER 21 / 30 Discussion

The Three Wars: Gender, Race, and Generation

The current social climate is described as a "war report" covering three distinct conflicts: a gender war, a race war, and a generational war. A clip from TD Hip Hop Media argues that Kamala Harris and Joy Reid are "co-optable" because their lineage is not rooted in American slavery. The speaker, a first-generation Haitian-American, claims many Black immigrants see themselves as superior to ADOS, making them useful tools for the existing power structure.

gender war· race war· generational war· ados· immigrants

2:06:24 Brown woman, I mean come on knock. I mean come on. This is gonna start some strife within black American families Start dumps, bro Sorry Let's all in on something here a long time about this about this show in general We are war report show, but people don't realize. Oh, yeah a front line. Of course. There's three wars raging right now There's a gender war. There's a race war and then there's a generational war and if you notice every one of our topics cover this war and this week now we're just saying this is the gender war this is the gender war it's just now this is a microcosm inside of black people but it's overall America's gender war. Hello as we've learned we always start let the black man go first and then we'll do it to everybody else if it works you know and this this is this is not a cynical joke this is just the fact

2:07:21 Right, and then that's what the policy, like you were saying before, is that the plan is if enough black women can get behind a candidate and then they uh whatever tactics they have to use to browbeat the black man into the voting booth right that's that's their game that's that's their game um now racial war that could be black against white that could be uh so-called black ados against uh non-ados uh these i mean all these things are raging and this you know you're very astute with your observation but it you know um this thing has been raging for a while now it's just that it hasn't

2:08:00 Bobo dog but now when we get to presidential vice president presidential politics we're gonna start saying gonna ratchet up right black men are gonna say no we don't want to do this another war I mean the show the race war is. This is a clip from Kamala Harris. No, this is a clip, excuse me, from the guy over at TD Hip Hop Media, which he does great work on YouTube. He's gonna explain to you a portion of the race war. Kamala Harris and Joy Reid are the worst kind of black people. They are the worst kind because though they wear the same uniform as you, they are not on the same team as you. And the reason that they are so easily co-optable is because their family lineage is not rooted in the plantations of American slavery.

2:08:48 Kamala Harris is a biracial woman whose mother is Indian and her father is Jamaican. And if I'm not mistaken, Joy Reid's father is from the Congo and her mother is from Guyana. And before you want to jump to the conclusion and say, oh, you hate immigrants and you think black Americans are so much better than black immigrants. No, no, no. I'm Haitian. Now I was born and raised in Chicago, but both of my parents are from Haiti, which makes me first gen born in the United States. So that's what qualifies me to be able to tell the truth and say a good deal of black immigrants, including their first gen children like myself do believe that they are better than black Americans and see themselves as something different from black Americans whose lineage comes out of the plantations of American slavery. This is why they are so easily co-optable.

2:09:33 becoming useful tools for the system of racism white supremacy Wow And that's coming from my Haitian American Wow, that's good. I like that so that's what I'm saying that that's why I'm talking about the race war I mean, it's it's like a it's in Entry the you saying the so-called black community and then there's a external but But just to give you some points of what he said, it's funny that Joe Biden names Haitian American Karen Andre as his Florida senior advisor, and then he also hires a Haitian political advisor, Kareem Jean-Pierre. Where are all the ADOS women? I mean, let alone. Very, very few. The only one who, or one of the few who qualified was Stacey Abrams.

CHAPTER 22 / 30 Discussion

Non-ADOS Appointments and the "Great Replacement"

The hosts observe a trend of Joe Biden hiring non-ADOS Black advisors, such as Karine Jean-Pierre and Karen Andre, while marginalizing ADOS figures like Simone Sanders. Moe Factz suggests this is a deliberate strategy to integrate "safe" Black immigrants while the numbers of ADOS Americans dwindle. This is linked to the "Kalergi Plan" and the concept of a "Great Replacement" within the American political demographic.

joe biden· ados· immigration· great replacement· simone sanders

2:10:25 Go away, go away Stacy. But she's been kicked to the back, Simone Sanders. Oh really? No, because she jumped ship. She jumped ship from Bernie over to Biden. Right, right. And so now? But she's been marginalized. Right. She's been, you don't see it, that's why I said, you cut the politics, I'm just saying, for a living. You couldn't get her off television when she was running Bernie's campaign. I've only, you're right, I've only seen her once or twice I think with Biden. This is a very conservative effort to go non-AIDAS. It has to be because there's no way in the world that you can hire that many black people, so-called black people, and none of them are AIDAS. What is going on here? Right, so this gets back to my point, my original question at the beginning of the show. Yeah, exactly. So my question is,

2:11:22 How does this go over, man? How does... What does your wife think? I'm just... I need... You know, here's what I'm missing. Now I'm missing Ados women's voice, which we just... You know, so it doesn't have to be your wife, but you hear stuff. I just don't see that many. If you believe in symbolism... solely symbolism and you can you can you can thread that needle where she is from Jamaica and Jamaica did have people come there from Africa and you know by you know by that correlation then you know we can graft her in but

2:12:01 But a lot of politically savvy people that pay attention actually to politics, they're like, we've played this game before, and it didn't turn out very well for us. Well, but that depends on how you look at it. What just struck me is one of the first things we talked about early in this series of the show. was about whiteness and how in Europe whiteness was really, which is the true white supremacy, was just, it is bloodlines, at a certain point they need to bring in more quote-unquote white people to have political support and then it's just like, yeah, you're from there, you're white, you're white. And they didn't even mean it. And as we discussed previously, some women, even of higher standing, they looked to, what was the word, swarthy. They looked too swarthy so they wore the white makeup. This is, in a way, the black version of that.

2:13:03 We have, we want to hijack everything, but it's not a good hijack, obviously. Maybe that's what they're trying. Let's bring everybody in and all the people we want in for political support, we'll just call them all black. Isn't that kind of what's happening? Yeah, that's the goal. But it's the same tactic. It's the same damn tactic. And what's even more sinister is they're bringing in, let me point something out before I go any further. There's a lot of Caribbean Americans Haitians Jamaicans there are allies as insurance and was from a td8 on td hip-hop media For him to come forward and say I'm sure he got a lot of grief from you know, you know people in his family But the truth is the truth Why would you stand in the way when you saw it with your read if they're asking for tangibles the trouble? Yeah, like

2:13:59 You know and then you come you're saying Laura you're saying Laurie Daniels the same I mean, it's the same thing all these people, you know, they don't want to have black people question anything It's just like just shut up and go vote be activated And and they even said that they didn't use the word activate but in their pitch of Joe Biden you need us It was like a voters you're trying to reach we can go activate I'll use my word, but that's this, you know, they use a synonym for it we can motivate I think they use but I like to use the term activate because I There is no motivation. It's just turn you on go vote and turn you off for three years and then we're gonna repeat But yeah, there's a lot of good people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know you vote and then we'll do a study about something for you and then rinse and repeat after three years Oh, well, you know, you can't even do the study. That's why they did the study before It's like no We'll have that next time around

2:14:54 It's coming it's coming it's coming soon. No, yeah, I'm always gonna do it. Yeah, so It is what it is, but I'm just pointing out that there are allies But at the same time I will say this there's a sentiment amongst Adolf people not all that America only in integrates I think that's right word. Oh, yeah integrates. Um, I Safe black people so-called black people and there's a reason for that our numbers are dwindling Our numbers are a DOS Americans because if you think about just do the math if you're in Through immigration you bring all these black people in but the percentage stays at 13% and we're talking about we heard Malcolm X use this number 13% right what's happening to the a loss numbers it's shrinking and

2:15:53 Thank you. And when you factor in inter, um, uh, multiracial people, those kinds of things. I'm not, like I said, I'm not saying this to get anything wrong. What I'm saying is. they're bringing in people to replace so nobody doesn't look around one day and say, hey, where all the black people go? So now it's just got- Go look at Wikipedia. The Great Replacement. That is exactly what the European strategy has been. And that's the Kalergi Plan. It's real. You can really read it. I'll put it in the show notes. No, but what I'm saying is if we were just to dwindle away

2:16:32 I mean, because we have what we keep head with her head in direction where we're headed. We're eventually going to be, you know, down to like three, 4%, you know, and then somebody's gonna look up like, you know, I've seen a black person in two weeks, that kind of thing. So it's like, we got to keep integrating. So you don't realize that, that you're going black people actually disappearing. This is a real phenomenon. But I mean, that's, that's the reason why but like I said, we have allies in all groups. Even some on this show so I'm you know, I don't know I don't play that what they I don't participate is in these wars I won't participate in a gender war. No, I won't participate Participate in the in the race war or the generational war. I mean we hear boomer millennial, you know women men like those kind of things it's

CHAPTER 23 / 30 Discussion

Karen Hunter on Caste Systems and Hamilton Brown

Karen Hunter speculates that Kamala Harris's mother must have been from a lower caste in India because she married a Black man. This is debunked by the fact that her mother was a Brahmin, the highest caste. Furthermore, Dinesh D'Souza and Harris's own father have noted the family's descent from Hamilton Brown, one of the largest slave owners in Jamaica. The hosts mock Hunter for her lack of research on the VP candidate's actual heritage.

karen hunter· dinesh d'souza· kamala harris· hamilton brown· slavery

2:17:21 factions and that's why I went to use the term black ink because this is black ink at work. It's that we will manipulate black people through disinformation to do the bidding of powerful white people and it is what it is. Uh, so going back to, um, Karen Hunter and it's a second clip from the, uh, Kamala Harris is black and qualified. Oh, Karen, Karen Hunter chimes in. So I'm going to say this, an Indian woman from a country that values whiteness from a country that has a caste system that categorizes people based on their proximity to whiteness to marry a black man.

2:18:07 Tells you all you need to know. I mean like This is a point of shame and you can ask people in the Indian, you know Watch Indian matchmaker the lighter you are the more valuable you are for her to marry a not just a black man a black man from Jamaica tells me where she lies in this You know, this space of race, you know, that was not a choice that I'm sure was met with a lot of yay and partying and, oh, this is great. You're bringing home a black man. Yippee. No, nowhere in the world did that probably land properly, which also probably tells me that her mom might've been in a cast that was not well-valued in India. I'm just going to just drop that and we'll just move on.

2:18:50 Wow. So now she's even trying to say her mother is possibly black because she comes from a lower caste system. Yep. That's, uh, and that's where the black, that's where Brown becomes black. Right. That's what, that's the grafting in, but there's only one problem. There's only one problem with their argument. And that's the next clip. Right? No way! Impossible! It's impossible to make her racist! Okay, well, Dinesh D'Souza. What is it? D'Souza. Dinesh D'Souza. Yeah. Who Akash has coined as the Indian Candace Owens. Yeah. Okay. So we have to clarify it. He had a fire argument, right? He traced the lineage of Kamala's family, her heritage, so she's both Jamaican

2:19:38 and Indian. Yes. Okay. He traced the Jamaican legacy obviously back to Jamaica, but specifically she's a descendant of this dude named Hamilton Brown, who is the largest slave owner in all of Jamaica. Apparently has a town named after him in Jamaica. Oh shit. Wow. He got a statue. We gotta take that bitch down. Let's do it. I'm just saying this is very interesting and then wait a minute. It doesn't stop there. I saw another thing I saw another thing real quick and then her mother's side. They're Brahmins. Oh, yeah Brahmin is the highest cash highest and for thousands of years Akash they Exploited millions of low-cast untouchables. Did they not they did Trump thinks that this isn't gonna work for his audience?

2:20:28 I think this is gonna steal the votes! I think some people are gonna be like, yeah you talk about it, this bitch beasts about it! The best part, it was actually her father who wrote an op-ed in the Jamaica Observer I think about the slave owning roots of the family. Yeah, that's the best part and this goes back to our last convert No, it was the one about I think it was the when we did the Marxist Yeah, and then we were talking about how a lot of these women have daddy issues yeah, I

2:21:09 Well, there's your Kamala daddy issue right there front and center. Yeah, okay. We always look at that I mean, that's just that's something else. We also get the parents issue. He also left the family when she was young I believe. That's the point I'm making. So I mean there's some animosity there. In that regard, she's totally black if you look at it from the outside Democrat perspective. Yeah, that's yeah. Well, how would they Look for him to get the Barack Obama senior treatment. Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. Oh, yes. Does she have any siblings? We have to keep an eye out for that because we saw in 44 how the media just shredded Barack Obama senior. Yeah, we just don't want to know who you are. Go away. And even he kind of shined his dad. But then on top of that, for Karen Hunter to be so

2:22:06 inadequately informed about somebody that you go on your platform to talk about to millions of people, you make the assumption, and this is when she'd been elected. I mean, not elected, but selected to be vice president. You come out and say her mom might have been a part of the lower class. Her mom was at the highest class. The same people that you were saying that her mom would have had to answer to for marrying a black man. That's who her mom is from. These people don't do any homework and she's the main one that gets on the on air and talk about yeah Real journalism, you need to have facts and blah blah blah blah blah and then you get out here and blow smoke out your tail About kamala harris and you know saying her being from the lower i'm saying cast system Kamala hair like I said that she is the worst

2:22:57 possible VP candidate that he could pick. That's why it has to be a losing pick unless they are really delusional, which is possible. It's got to be to make them lose. I can't see it any other way. I mean, they are raising a ton of money. Sure. I'm looking at, let's just put my Democratic strategist hat on for a second. I'm looking at these two losers and I'm saying, this is who we got to go up with? Yes, let's wait four more years. Let's keep our powder dry on our good candidates well, you know

CHAPTER 24 / 30 Discussion

Democratic Strategy and the "Soros Sisters"

Speculation arises that Kamala Harris was the choice of George Soros and Silicon Valley, while Stacey Abrams was backed by Michael Bloomberg. Harris is described as a "Soros Sister" due to her background as a DA and her ties to other Soros-funded prosecutors like Kim Foxx. The hosts suggest the Democrats are "keeping their powder dry" for 2024, treating the Biden-Harris ticket as a sacrificial play similar to the 2012 Republican strategy.

george soros· michael bloomberg· stacey abrams· kamala harris· silicon valley

2:23:37 Go four more years and then we'll and then we'll do what we did with Bush. I think this this is mirroring. Yeah 2012 all over this is all a 2012 all over again on Trump side He's playing the moral card and the Christian card and abortion card via Kanye Mike Bush did and it resonated with black people I was I was there because I would come I would talk to people, you know, I was I Wasn't voting I did vote in 2012. That's the only election I voted in right so um You I was all anti-Bush. I mean, I could relate to the kids now how they can be anti-Trump, right? I mean, you hear he's Satan or whatever. Bush got a lot of that. He got a lot of that Satan stuff. But when you talk to, when I would talk to older people, black people, they were like, I gotta vote my God. And I think that that's a real, I think Trump is tapping in it. And then the Democrats are looking like,

2:24:39 We got this kid Obama, but he's not ready yet to come up to the majors, right? I mean he needs to play triple-a ball for a little longer. Let's just throw Kamala and and Bernie, I mean Joe Biden out there. I mean if it works it works, but if it doesn't it's like eh. I think part of the strategy or what is definitely happening is It's all the down ballots. So now it's about the Senate, it's about getting, you know, four or five seats in the Senate. There's Michael Bloomberg money. She had to be approved. So Bernie, it couldn't be Bernie because Bloomberg wouldn't come in with his hundreds of millions of dollars, which he promised. He promised he would do it. And I'm sure that, I'm sure he's good for it. I'm sure he's all in.

2:25:25 And so that, we're not seeing a lot of those races except for, ah, that lady who won, she's QAnon crazy. Otherwise, you're not really hearing about those races, which are incredibly important. This is, if Trump wants to be truly effective, he needs definitely to hold on to the Senate and preferably to get some ground back in the House of Representatives. Otherwise, all he'll have is executive order. But lower black turnout means you lose those races. I mean, you gotta think about it. Of course, of course. So why would you put Kamala? I don't understand. I mean, you brought up Bloomberg, but Stacey Abrams, Bloomberg's girl. I see what you're saying. Until she wasn't.

2:26:15 Until she wasn't I don't know. I don't know what you know what I'm no no mo You know what I may be wrong Bloomberg may have been May have stepped back some other group may have stepped in there's certainly a lot of other people hovering around no well sir all sees He's involved he's very he's backing. No he put up. I think she's one of the original Soros sisters I Because you remember you got to look at the connection. Yeah, but I wasn't talking about Stacy. I'm talking about Kamala Harris. She's one of the Soros, the original Soros sisters. Yeah, she's one of the Soros sisters. Remember she backed Kim Fox and that whole legal witch coven they have going there. Well, well, and I say that with all seriousness. Okay, stop. Great.

2:27:00 You're absolutely right. Now we know a lot of the Black Lives Matter funding, certainly for certain groups, is coming from open society. They are leading in this. And it would only make sense for the delusional 85-year-old to say, hey, I want her. I want her. Maybe it was his choice. Hey, you want Black Lives Matter to continue? You want me to continue funding this? I need Kamala. It may have been George against Michael. You know what? I think that's highly likely because when it boils down to it when I'm just looking at between Kamala and Stacey Abrams Stacey Abrams liked she has the appearance. She has the look I mean when we talk about these things in politics, you know She has that look that feel of a real black woman and Kamala Harris has the feel of you know, a

2:27:54 The pretty light-skinned girl and that that's good. I mean, I know that's super superficial That's what we do here. We talk about that shit, right? Right because it matter I mean it matters at the end of the day cuz like you know what cuz people say, you know It's just something about on like about her. They won't verbalize it, but it's a real feeling Okay, so last point on this for me. So not only do we have a George, her being a George Soros favorite as a Soros sister district attorney, we financed her campaign. But she is also a favorite of Silicon Valley.

2:28:32 For a number of reasons. I would say when she is talking to The the political audience. She's probably I come from people But when she's over there in Silicon Valley I have a feeling she might sometimes slip into a little bit of this with the with this with all these CEOs and Silicon Valley is an Indian cabal probably from her cast yeah, and that's that's a quite valid point and And we know Silicon Valley is making a huge power play with the COVID. With everything. Yeah, definitely with the COVID, I mean with Bill Gates and all. So I wouldn't put that behind her at all. And I would also put her on Team Obama. They were quite friendly. I mean, I think she was billed as the female Obama. Of course, yeah, definitely. We definitely have to keep an eye on how all this plays out.

2:29:29 So I think we left off with Kamala's roots. So that's going to be a problem. You're going to give Trump that ammo against Biden in a debate? Well, if Wow What debate I haven't seen a debate yet. We'll see my popcorn ready Yeah, I'm ready for if he ducks that debate then it looks even worse on a Joe Biden because now you're you talk did the tough talk It's like when you call somebody out and then you won't show up behind the gym. Yeah Well, you know it could be a horrible thing that Joe just couldn't make it and Kamala will step in you know That would be funny, too

CHAPTER 25 / 30 Discussion

The 19th News and the "Build Back Better" Agenda

Kamala Harris gave her first post-nomination interview to "The 19th," a newly formed non-profit news organization. During the interview, Harris discussed the "Build Back Better" plan and the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights, which primarily affects women of color. The hosts note that Harris failed to mention Biden's "Lift Every Voice" Black agenda, suggesting the "Lift Act" was a pre-negotiated deal made when she dropped out of the primary.

the 19th· erin haynes· kamala harris· build back better· domestic workers

2:30:13 Nah, it ain't gonna work. I just don't see a debate coming at all. They can't do it. I don't see... No, they can't, but I'm just saying that they'll lose a lot of votes in those Rust Belt states. Oh, because you call somebody out and you don't show up. You don't show up. Pussy. That makes Joe look real bad to the demographic he's trying to target there. So you sent me a clip On the 19th the the 19th the rep. Yes the night. Yes. This is this is yeah, okay Yes, you want this is Aaron Haynes, but no but hold on we have to we've heard from Aaron Haynes before I thought I recognized her and when you sent me the clip I was like oh This goes all the way back to show number two claiming seats at the table

2:31:08 So, ladies, I'm going to open up this conversation. It was probably about nine months ago that the country learned what the rest of us have long known, right? What we have been living, frankly, and that is that black women are really the center, the backbone of democratic politics and the party's most loyal and really consistent voting bloc, right? But that wasn't just true last December. Black women were frankly part of what we like to call the resistance in 2016, showing up at the polls overwhelmingly, vote for Hillary Clinton. Black women were there in 2008 and 2012 when over 90% of us voted for Barack Obama.

2:31:48 Voting really for us has been a form of resistance for a really long time. And I think that that's something that the rest of the country has woken up to and the moment that we now find ourselves in. Yes, I want to play that so she's been laying this thing out. We're staying out for over a year coming This was show number two and was that from the 19th? Was that already the the the outfit? She was no doubt that was the that was the summit that she had with the guy that says we're taking down Jesus and MLK and uh, I think it was JFK or MLK and Jeff and putting up Beyonce and and know it, you know the the female trio. Mm-hmm So that was from that summit

2:32:31 So like I said, this is show number two. So we've been on top of her all the time and I didn't realize she had that much clout. Oh, you have no idea. You have no idea what kind of clout she's got. I did not. I did not because for her when you sent me that clip, I'm like, wow, she got the first sit down interview with Kamala Harris. That's pretty big news. Yep. Yeah, you want me to give you some background or do you want to go to the next clip first? We can go right into number 28. You know, we've talked about about the dual pandemics of virus and systemic racism that have been roiling us for several months now. I mean, it felt like the criteria changed so much for those of us on the outside looking in kind of in terms of what

2:33:16 Joe Biden might need as a campaigning and a governing partner should he win in November. I wonder if that changed what you thought that the case was for what you potentially brought to this ticket in this administration. Well, you know, I mean, the Biden Harris agenda is a shared agenda. For example, one of the he Joe had a whole plan that was his go back better plan about the economy. But it includes understanding the connection between the creation of jobs and also bringing dignity and support to working families. Right. And so, for example,

2:33:53 One of the parts of the Build Back Better plan is to bring health care and home health care to seniors and to people who need it. But also make sure that caregivers are are being paid a livable and a righteous wage and getting all the benefits in terms of workers' benefits. So, in that plan, he adopted the Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights, which is something I'd been working on for a couple of years. And when we talk about domestic workers, be clear, we are talking about predominantly women of color. So, when I heard this, I was like,

2:34:36 Okay, when she said Joe Biden's plan I was waiting to hear lift every voice You talk to a black woman. No, you got about I want to help black people That goes show you lift every voice was bullcrap because she didn't even reference it when you talk to tell black woman about what's gonna benefit other black women No mission to lift every voice not one step further Kamala had to lift act Yes, Joe Biden has the lift every voice. That's right. I remember the plan. Yep. How long have they been in cahoots? Because I think he may hit I think this negotiation was done a sealed deal When she dropped out, oh, I know she pot. No, I I would say it was before she dropped out. I

2:35:31 Always say when she dropped out. I mean just from I'm not disagreeing with you But I would say at least when she dropped out because she says Joe well, you know Joe I could continue on to South Carolina on fumes and you won't win crap Yeah Yeah, yeah, maybe because if that brown woman goes to South Carolina She takes a lot of votes away from not not not not job Bernie Sanders, but Joe Biden. Yes, so Joe's like what do you want? I'm doing nothing speculation here I'm just saying how the conversation I see it going. She's like well Joe, you know if I make it to South Carolina I'm gonna be a problem for you. Yeah, he's like, you know what you might be right. I

2:36:21 And then she gives the lift act to him it becomes a lift every voice because me and you you even talked about like some of that housing practices It's talked about all Americans and not specifically black Americans They had to say they had the same verbiage But like I said, this is just weird She had to lift act and he had to lift every voice at but not neither one of those were mentioned We were talking about what's gonna help black people It's the build back better whatever the build better play it. I'm like, yeah Yeah, I don't know what they could crap is but when he taught the Charlemagne he didn't mention that he mentioned the trigger the lift every voice which is the is the Negro national anthem basically

CHAPTER 26 / 30 Discussion

Funding of The 19th and the Murdoch Connection

An investigation into the funding of "The 19th" reveals millions of dollars from major foundations, including the Rockefeller, Ford, and Knight Foundations. A primary donor is "Quadrivium," run by James and Catherine Murdoch. James Murdoch recently left the Fox board due to disagreements over Trump. The hosts highlight the "media power" required for a small, new outlet to secure a premiere interview and have it carried by MSNBC.

james murdoch· catherine murdoch· the 19th· rockefeller foundation· knight foundation

2:36:59 hijacked the title from that. Right, well that's what you do. So I'm just saying, there's a lot of power going on with this newly formed demographic and we have to start looking at black women as their own demographic. They're not lumped in with black men anymore. They made it quite clear, as you heard, none of it, nobody's mentioned anything for black men. They didn't say, well can you give us a black vice president? I mean, because none of that, I mean nothing. It's all women, women, women. So But this is nothing new right now. So just about this what I found Surprising is that I was switching around yesterday doing my typical research prep and all of a sudden exclusive first interview with the vice presidential pick Kamala Harris Live and I switch an MSNBC switches to ways do the zoom call webcast coming from the 19th They ran it uninterrupted for a half hour

2:37:56 During the regular, actually kind of getting on the primetime afternoon slot, they ran it for a half hour. It was not their people, it was not their quality, it was crappy, and they got the premiere? They got the what?! So I had to go look what is this 19th? Well the 19th is it CCC? Yes, I'm doing the the curry cash curry cash check. So I now they are a newly formed nonprofit 501c3 in 2019 so they don't actually have to report their numbers until October and

2:38:37 But they do have some information on their website that we're so grateful for our growing community. The 19 thanks to our growing member community included and they have a whole bunch of donation. They have levels of donations. They have actually the lowest level they have Is $999 and they actually do credits for everybody. I like that. But then you go up and I'm like, oh, here's 25,000 to 100,000. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine names. 100,000 to 250,000. There's another 10 names there, including the Knight Foundation. Then you go up to 250,000 to a million. We've got Arnold Ventures and Craig Newmark. That's Craigslist.

2:39:25 Ford Foundation, Pivotal Ventures, and then a thousand, a million dollars. No, it gets better. A million dollars or more. We have three. So that's a million dollars or more in a year to this outfit, the 19th. Reproductive Equity, which I haven't looked into. Oh, and I'm sorry. This is why I hadn't looked at it. It's the Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors Collaborative. And top of the list, Quadrivium and Unite America. So you actually have to go to Unite America, to Quadrivium first. Quadrivium, which is a

2:40:12 Kind of a kooky liberal arts type name. I kind of like it, but it's like you have the the trivium and the quadrivium and it's for, I don't know, it must be for intellectuals. This is pretty much a two-man outfit or one man one woman. And this is James and Catherine Murdoch of the Murdoch family. the Fox News family. But, no, it's not the Fox. James, you might have read last week, left the Fox board saying he was not on... this is the Trump-hating Murdoch. And so they've put their money in, and you just have to understand that this is really Catherine driving it, the wife,

2:41:02 She served as director of strategy and communications for the Clinton Climate Initiative from 2006 to 2011. Then she was visiting fellow at Oxford University, director of resource, whatever that is. She convened scientists, academics, investment professionals, entrepreneurs to promote judicious uses of natural resources. And then came quadrivium, quadrivium, And they also have, I just emailed you this link, Unite America, which now this is Unite America is supported by a diverse staff and leadership team committed to bringing real change to our politics. Can you click on that link I sent you just so you can see the picture of the team? And tell me what you see. It's the top of the page. Yeah, I'll see it.

2:41:53 One black guy. In the mountains, in the snow. This is their whole team. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven people who are also on that page down below. But they threw in a black guy. Just boom, he's just standing there. He's not even listed. We don't know who he is. He don't even look comfortable. He don't even look comfortable. They threw on some weird outfit. Here man, wear this. They're a bunch of racist hypocrites. Anyway, this goes really deep. No, but no women of color. No women of color. No, how you like that? I know so I don't know what's going on. But that's a lot of money for a little outfit the Abigail Disney I mean there's Carnegie Corporation It's unbelievable. This is huge. This is big big big money so big they had the power to control to control the first introduction the first

2:42:51 Well, you can call it an interview. It was, what if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be? And these kinds of questions. It was lame. It was journalistically embarrassing. But that's what the, this is big ass money that is behind this. What shocked me was when I went to the YouTube channel to watch the video that you sent me I think she had like 900 followers. I'm like what? Exactly that's kind of juice. You can't get 100 followers up I mean that gonna show you that the people are not with him the people will never be with them because it She's a terrible candidate I'm not I don't speak to about product about a person but I'm just saying hurt the job that you're trying to get her elected for okay, if you're talking about a you know some kind of

2:43:39 doing some kind of legal work or yeah our district attorney that kind of thing she has the mo for that but she doesn't have the uh personality or any underpinning or backing to be a good politician at least barack obama had chicago behind him but but all i'm all i'm saying is that this group that apparently is protecting the Biden-Harris ticket are so powerful that they can get an amateur woman from the 19th

2:44:19 Which is really, because you know, they are a media organization, the 19th. What they're saying is we do media and anyone can use it, reuse it, it's free for all, open. But that's control, man. If you can control MSNBC to take that instead of being on the air with you, which for some reason they didn't want, that is media power that I have not seen. That's the power of black women wield. Yeah, I'm not gonna knock it. I'm Impressed by it too because they knew what they were gonna do and George Floyd only strengthened their hand Yeah, you know when they started making ass it's like yeah now you're gonna put who out there and it's yeah I mean that that's their real power, but the problem that they have is that

2:45:12 Nobody wants what they're selling. I mean 900 900 followers on YouTube. Yeah, that's crazy Yeah But we're not surprised by Kamala Harris not promising black people anything because she told us that before Do you support reparations for black people? well Again, we had over 200 years of slavery. We had Jim Crow for almost a century. We had and discrimination that is not legal but still exists and is a barrier to progress. We have disparities around housing. We have disparities around education. We have disparities around income. And we have to recognize that everybody did not start out on an equal footing in this country. And in particular, black people have not. And I think that's a big part of the problem.

2:46:11 And so we have got to recognize that and do something about that and give folks a lift up. That's why, for example, I'm proposing the LIFT Act. Give people who are making a hundred thousand dollars or less as a family a tax credit which will benefit and uplift 60% of black families who are in poverty Yeah, don't hold it. Hey Moe don't hold your breath if you're waiting for some Is that your lip every voice act under this direct lip lip back? I mean you heard her say it yourself Yeah, no what she's saying. No

2:46:46 No! No! That was the beginning and ending of Kamala Harris and that goes to show you, hey Murdoch's, you might want to get somebody that got their You know their finger on the pulse of the people but we told you way long ago that she was she was a non-starter Well, if you see the picture that I sent you with the team with the one black dude standing there looking all uncomfortable That shows you that this is not and it literally says look at our integrated team We're all about diversity and they get they're all in you know Wyoming or wherever they have their beautiful houses, you know, that's that kind of place in the mountains. And they flew in the black guy. Stand here for our diversity picture. These people are just virtuous. These are the white guilt billionaires who really believe it. And I want to say this, the names that you threw out, the Carnegie's and the Rockefeller's. Big, big names, man. Those are the ones that started funding HBCUs and the Boule to begin with. Yep.

2:47:50 So it just continues on. What I have not seen is a check from the Rockefeller Foundation for the MoFax with Adam Curry show. I have not. I have not. But I will say this, that we do have some great producers that do keep us Well motivated and not only with money but with more importantly words to me, you know how I feel about cards. Indeed. And cards and letters. As always it's a good moment here as we are about to thank some of our executive and associate and producers.

2:48:25 Is to let you know if you knew especially what this show is really all about first the white man and the black man Have to be able to sit down at the same table The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro and the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his in the mind without hurting the feelings of the white man then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top the table and take an Intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way but they'll ever do it Dad seems to be working for us. We're moving ahead. We're making it happen. I'm feeling good. Here's how it works. The value for value system is really simple. If you listen to this show, any moment in time, and you think this is valuable to me, just put a number on it. Was it the amount of time you spent? Was it the actual value of the information? You know, a diamond can be very valuable versus a different kind of rock. But if you went to the movies, first of all, it would have been an epic movie if you were there this long.

CHAPTER 27 / 30 Discussion

Producer Credits, Donor Thank-Yous, and "Moke"

The hosts thank their executive and associate producers for their financial support and feedback. They discuss the "Moke" (Moe-Woke) hashtag suggested by a donor and hand out "Mo Karma" to various contributors. The segment includes a quote from Malcolm X about the necessity of Black and white men sitting at the same table to solve problems. Adam Curry also mentions a potential "Rona-Mo" update regarding vaccine trials in the Black community.

value for value· mofundme· malcolm x· moke· mo karma

2:47:50 So it just continues on. What I have not seen is a check from the Rockefeller Foundation for the MoFax with Adam Curry show. I have not. I have not. But I will say this, that we do have some great producers that do keep us Well motivated and not only with money but with more importantly words to me, you know how I feel about cards. Indeed. And cards and letters. As always it's a good moment here as we are about to thank some of our executive and associate and producers.

2:48:25 Is to let you know if you knew especially what this show is really all about first the white man and the black man Have to be able to sit down at the same table The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro and the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his in the mind without hurting the feelings of the white man then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top the table and take an Intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way but they'll ever do it Dad seems to be working for us. We're moving ahead. We're making it happen. I'm feeling good. Here's how it works. The value for value system is really simple. If you listen to this show, any moment in time, and you think this is valuable to me, just put a number on it. Was it the amount of time you spent? Was it the actual value of the information? You know, a diamond can be very valuable versus a different kind of rock. But if you went to the movies, first of all, it would have been an epic movie if you were there this long.

2:49:23 What would you spend for that going on a date? Is that the same value for this show? It doesn't matter. Whatever it is, it could be nothing, we're fine with it, but we do appreciate the people who get so much value that they come into the donation pool with Mr. and Mrs. Klaber With $500 to start us off today This is incredibly generous and they say this donation pales in comparison to the value you've provided to myself and my husband I'm sending a separate email your way as well our deepest appreciation for what you do and the work you put in here So here's the and this is from I don't have her name. I

2:50:03 Only her husband's names or mr. Or mrs. Klaber I just want to thank you for your time knowledge perspective and the work you put in an inter on Mo facts To say that you are positively influencing people be a vast understatement teaching people to think critically for themselves is profoundly empowering and particularly important with all that's going on in the world right now and It's like we've been noticing nudges but didn't have didn't have the history behind it to really get the context I'll ring the bell for that if content is Queen context is King holler to the healthy patriarchy by the way Yeah, holler indeed We're both working through the course catalog and look forward to each new week an updated Rona one on its way perhaps perhaps

2:50:46 We have to see how the news cycle goes. There hasn't been much information on the RONA lately. Wait a minute, aren't you in the vaccine trial? That was going to be part of the potluck, but I just ran out of table. Because they had a black lady out pushing, a couple of black doctors pushing that black people need to be part of the study. Oh yeah, that's a big move. I'm good. I'm good on that. Well also good is Samantha Henry who came in with $152. I'm sorry, but what one second is Katie and I want to say that I'm so happy. Oh Katie Kleber. Yes. Yes, but I want to say that I'm so happy that our top two donors are females. We're winning ground.

2:51:39 We don't this is as we've already established. This is a combat podcast and I'd say this is a win Samantha says dear Mo and Adam Thanks for hashtag doing the work as an educator at a liberal school in Los Angeles. There's a limited list of ideas I'm allowed to consider when addressing race relations in America I am told to listen, but I am often told who I should listen to and how I should listen and Listening to MoFax gives me back the freedom of thought that I so desperately miss. I appreciate and value your podcast more than this crummy note on PayPal can express. Thank you, Samantha. And you know, you could always just tell the kids, MoFax.com, and see if they pick up on it. It's just a thought. Thank you very much. It's very kind of you. And you, of course, are. And no note is crummy. No, zero notes are crummy.

2:52:36 Absolutely. Michael Abbey, $126.43. Damn it man, had to stop listening to concentrate on driving. You're pulling back the curtain on today's and their parents who raised them, to be fair. Extreme Narcissist was spot on and should make the rest of us do a little soul searching as well, to be honest. Absolutely on point and should be required listening across the board not even halfway through this episode and must donate keep it up Oh, I suppose mo. Oh, I suppose you too Adam. What's the podcast equivalent of the straight man mad Mike? Oh, that's mad Mike. His name is mad Mike Yes Yeah, I'm not sure No, no either. We've got to think about that Karen fun Heights ma

2:53:24 I think, I recognize it as a Dutch name, so I may be pronouncing it incorrectly. Karen van Eidsma, maybe? 12345, my favorite number. Started listening at episode number 39, I've been trying to catch up ever since. I appreciate all the work you put into making this show. Thank you so much. I'm always amazed by the content. Me too, Karen. And there's another, we've got our own Karen. And by the way, Karen, I'm sorry. It must really suck to be Karen right now. As an atom, I can tell you. Weird names can be problematic for yourself. Then we have 101 from Brock Reinhold. Did not send a note, but it is incredibly appreciated. Jimmy James comes in with 100. Getting deployed, leaving my wife and newborn at home has me back to my annoyed state.

2:54:21 I'm actually good. He didn't want me to do that. Yeah, I'll cut that out. Yeah, okay new money hunty for my brothers from other mothers to continue doing the work Well, there you go. That's a bumper sticker We need this more now than ever it seems but maybe this is what we always needed and the times have nothing to do with it either way Thank you. We can get through this if we just keep on swimming y'all Thanks, Jimmy The McClurkin Company, interesting $100. I get more value per minute from this show than any other and I appreciate the education, insight and entertainment. I'm now going back and listening to the old shows. Love it. Keep it up. I'd love a Mo' Karma if you don't mind. Hashtag give blacks guns. GBG, you bet. Here's your Mo' Karma. You've got. Mo' Karma? Yowza.

2:55:10 We go into Larry Hay, also $100. As I ponder the world we live in, Larry says, and try to make sense of all of it through the eyes of a muggle who is limited to only getting news and commentary from the M5M, I'm extremely grateful for the work you do to educate and inform those of us who are moke. Oh, that's a good one. Moe woke is moke. Hashtag moke. I think we got to use this. Moe, that's a good one. I like it. I like MOKE. I like it too. As a NOA gender producer using this platform to teach my children to question everything and critical thinking skills once taught in public education, words cannot express the value you've provided to my soul the last year. MO.

2:55:54 I look forward to the next year of content and in particular the election cycle already underway. Keep up the fantastic work. Looking forward to someday attending a MOFAX meetup. Love and light, Sir Hamus of the Piedmont Province." There is actually a MOFAX meetup. Did you know that? No, I did not know that. I think it's a noagenda slash MOFAX meetup, but hold on, let me just see. Noagenda. Because I saw it the other day come in I was like hold on a second meetups.com Let me see if it's on the should be on it's coming up. I thought this month Hold on it is in fact Here we go Bridgeport, Pennsylvania. Oh, I'm sorry we missed it it was on Thursday, so maybe maybe we'll get a note and

2:56:49 Yeah, can we get a report? Bridgeport, Pennsylvania. The MoFax No Agenda Meetup. Yeah, we definitely need a report from that. Looking forward to it. All right, and thank you very much. Who was this? This was Larry, I believe. Sir Haymoose. Sir Haymoose. Ah, there we go. Then we have McCullen? Moen at $72. Moen Adam, tell him to go to Winnipeg's McCullen, M-C-L-U-H-A-N on YouTube and subscribe. Thanks, you got it. McCullen, no problem. And thank you for supporting us. $69.33 from John Stein. Hey Moen Adam, I'm a recent Roanimo convert.

2:57:34 Rogue and no agenda Mo Fax and the insight you share is genuinely mind-opening Thank you for the value you give and I patiently await every episode Please accept my donation and may I please have some mo karma John from Atlanta you bet John. Thank you very much for the support you've got And he's our second associate executive producer 55 55 from Riley Koppelman Jonah mo, okay Jonah mo that's interesting. Okay, Rona mo Jonah mo so much respect for you to who's MK deadbeat do we have an MK deadbeat that I should know about? Now I don't think we have an MK or dead. We need a dead dead beat and a dead beat Dead beats tune. Yes. Okay, so he's he's he was a deadbeat. He's now D dead beaded And the mo karma you got it

2:58:32 You've got No note from Eric Hochul from Deutschland but $52. It is appreciated. Craig Nosely, 51.50. Daniel White, 50, and he is also an associate executive producer, really enjoying the conversations during these turbulent times. He says, I appreciate the honest back and forth that y'all have. It's so hard to keep unbiased, relevant information these days, and this show is very refreshing. Been listening for a few months, first time donor, keep up the excellent work, guys. Yes, you would be a D deadbeat. today. We're working on it. Douglas Mook also sends us 50. That winds up our associate executive producers. A good list. We appreciate it. Michael Olson, $46. He says a trusted influencer. I guess he is a trusted influencer. I'm not sure what he means. Last few shows were brilliant. Give blacks guns and keep doing the work. Mo Karma, please. You bet. You bet. You've got. Mo Karma.

2:59:33 JD Enterprises, oh I'm sorry, I went too far there. Eric Mackey, 4544, thank you Moe and Adam, more comments to come with future donations, just wanted to say thank you and we say thank you back. Chad Farrow, 45, says keep up the good work. 4444 from JD Enterprises, A J&B donation for all your great episodes in the 40s which make my Sunday morning long runs fly by. I must look like a fool, clapping, guffawing and pumping my fist as I sweatly trot by the brunch crowd. A real estate investment. Mo' karma, s'il vous plait. Yes. You've got... Mo' karma.

3:00:13 A little real estate investment for building the house that Mo put on the ground. John Taylor $44, JB no note but $40 it's appreciated. Connor Lawrence says love and light in the morning gents it's been a few weeks please de-deadbeat me. We do need a sound effect for that. I feel like this is my, uh, my mistake. I completely neglected to come up with that, but maybe we'll have one of our producers do that. Uh, thank you both for continuing to be the shining light of race relations in the U S can I get some of that sweet, sweet goat WUSA and a Mo Karma? Well, yeah, of course you can.

3:00:57 Thank you, Connor. Daniel Fletcher, 35, thanks for the show. The comment Adam made about feeling grounded was a perfect analogy. Shit is crazy. I got to keep my teen's understanding of it all in perspective. Thanks for providing the facts and balanced analysis. It makes me a better dad slash mentor for real. I think it does well for all of us. I think for men in general, this is a pretty good, pretty damn good show. I think he said as a man. Jacob Harvey says, thank you very much Mo, love the show, just started contributing value for value. I'm white and from the Ozarks. I've been listening to Malcolm X after hearing some of the clips you played. I would benefit from and appreciate a larger breakdown of who he was and what he was getting at. As far as I can tell he spoke the truth and didn't care about the fallout. We've done a lot of MLK in the show, I mean of Malcolm X.

3:01:50 Do you see any deeper dive on that, Mo? He always comes up in the conversation appropriately. Yeah, eventually, but I think he's one of those characters where you just have to lay out his viewpoints as they correspond to the show. I agree. It's probably true for a lot of people. Jape continues, the point about being from the Ozarks that there are a ton of poor white people with a victim mentality here. They look to blame as much as they can and take very little responsibility for themselves and their own lives, but when politicians come around and say, conservative, conservative, conservative, they jump in line to vote. I bet that's true. I bet that's true.

3:02:32 You bet. That's fascinating. Nah, these things don't... Somehow it doesn't surprise me. Thank you Jake. Alejandro Alocer, up to 20, show 24 and counting since my Ronimo donation a couple of weeks ago. Can't thank you two enough for this amazing content. We thank you for supporting Alejandro. Torben Peterson, no note but we appreciate it. And there she is, Jayme Dennefer. With $33.33, thank you as always for outstanding shows. Also, please send a birthday shout out and a Mo Karma for DC Girl. That's right, it'll be her birthday on the 18th and we will hand out that karma. Thank you very much Dame Jennifer. You've got Mo Karma, Chef Elvis, also a long time supporter, $33.33, magic numbers from him, thank you. Louis Bragg, $35. Justin Hoffarth, $25.

3:03:28 John Taylor 25, John Kellogg 25. He says 45 Savage episode was so good. Sorry, it's not $1,000, but it was worth it. Clinton comes in twice with 23 both times, probably on a subscription. So that actually would put Clinton up in the associate executive producer. Oh no, just short of it. Just short of it. Well, that's probably intentionally. We appreciate both and Clinton says thanks for fascinating analysis and about Loki and the M-World word builder. Clearly enjoyed 45 Savage. Robert Rekia, 2505. Gregory Seymour, 2033. Just appreciation, Gregory says. Bob Klein,

3:04:20 With $20 my brothers you rock you rule rap jazz and actually this is folk music and actually this is folk music It is not off the cuff from the heart not trying to fit in anywhere telling the people the news transformed into art Keep it up. I'm telling everyone about you I'd love if Moe would head over into the area of vaccination which harms black kids at a higher rate than white kids and that says a whole lot right there the cultural impact of science and the deception of fake science Yes, Bob Yeah, Moe and I were just talking about that. That's right. Oh, we have to get to the black people first and the old people. It's great. These guys are so sick.

3:04:59 Thank you, Bob. $20 from Susan. She loves the show. Thank you. Scott Home Improvements, no note but $20. Shonda C. Orr, $15, a no note. Patrick Stasiak in Saginaw, Michigan says, the MoFax podcast with Adam Curry, I think calling this the table is great messaging as well as calling your donors distinguished guests at the table. That's interesting. Because that would be from my fellow countrymen, distinguished guests. That's a Malcolm X speech, isn't it? I'm trying to think. You put me on the spot with it, I can't recall. Yes, yes, I'm very sure. Distinguished guests. That's the no sellout speech. That's what it is.

3:05:51 okay don't worry Mo I'll school you on Malcolm X just stick with me I'm doing the homework doing extra work I'm doing so much work All the work James Gundy $10 Derek Flanagan 10 Hector Minakata $5 Michael Kilguss $5 and Terry Keller $4.11. Thank you all so much. It is highly appreciated and we especially the value you're bringing makes us only want to do better for you and bring more value and a lot of the feedback the notes it is incredibly important and

CHAPTER 28 / 30 Discussion

Donny Deutsch on the Gender War and "White Male Fragility"

Donny Deutsch claims the 2016 election was a "gender war" and that women will "revolt" against Trump's behavior. Karen Hunter adds that Trump tapped into "white male fragility," a sentiment she claims also resonated with Black men who feel emasculated by modern society. The hosts argue there is a systematic attack on men in media, citing shows like "Black-ish" where the father is portrayed as a "doofus."

donny deutsch· karen hunter· gender war· white male fragility· blackish

3:06:28 We've got a P.O. box coming soon too, so you can actually send some handwritten stuff, which is a lost art, but well worth it. If you'd like to support the show, please go to mofax.com. If you'd like to go directly to the donation page, it's mofundme.com, M-O-F-U-N-D-E dot com, and we'll be happy to Thank you and read whatever you've got to say on the next MO Facts with Adam Curry. And again, thank you very much for supporting the show. Alright, so since you said we're the war report, let's get right into Danny Deutch then, the throwback clip. Donald Trump was the aggressor, was taking it to her, but he lost the debate. Let me tell you why. It's very simple. This is no longer about politics. This is a gender war. I've spent thousands of hours in women-focused groups.

3:07:25 And the Friday thing. How did you sneak in? Listen, listen guys, this is really important. How did you sneak in? The Friday thing of we don't have to redo it, of grabbing a woman's dress. Every woman in America was, listen, you would dismiss it, was lensing that through lens. As he was lurking behind, as Nicole Wallace said, I would have called 911, as he was telling her he's going to jail her, women in America are going to stand up and revolt. It's always been about the women and there will be more to come. And the words didn't mean anything. Every woman in America who has ever been held down, oppressed, harassed,

3:08:01 There is something in them. There's a nerve that is hits that so transcends everything else and if you're not seeing that You're missing them. By the way, that's not the point that men objectify women. We all know it's what they heard and saw Hmm. Yeah, was this about the debate with Trump and Hillary? Yeah, that's when he was a walker behind her and drinking the water kind of fun. Yeah, we talked about now at 45 savage when he was basically trolling her. Yeah big time, but a couple points I want to make here before we get into the next clip is could that Sentiment that he just shared be the driving force for Karen's because like you said like they're not gonna take anymore They're gonna call the cops and you know that kind of thing is I

3:08:48 Because the most famous the most famous of all Karen's the lady in New York She was she was a hit. She was a Hillary supporter. I mean like are we are we witnessing as the care really a byproduct of the gender war more than you know of the race war, huh? That's a good. Well. Yeah, actually yeah, yes, that is well it started in With although it was taken to race right away It was started started with a woman feeling threatened by a man if we can just leave the color of their skin out of it for two seconds, right? That's how it started. Yeah, so in that regard, yeah, absolutely and that could have been yeah, that could be it and another point I want to make is I think when we all boil down to we identify with our gender more than our race so I mean

3:09:42 You're gonna have this war fought on more fronts on the gender front than the racial front. So I just wanted to lay that out there. Yes, if we weren't so racist, that's what it would be. Yeah, we're too busy being racist to think about gender. Oh boy. That's gonna end the population if we go to a full-fledged gender war, so we might want to count our blessings at least. All I know is you didn't have a fifth kid you got a dog so I'm just saying you know Yes, but I did get a black dog He's tricolor mo what are you talking about? He's not he's let's do the paper bag test on your dog, right? So um with this gender war I was watching Karen hunter clips going through looking for um, I

3:10:41 Kamala Harris stuff. Mm-hmm. And then she makes this revelation that you're gonna hear in 32, and it's wonderful. I believe that the 2016 blip that people think is an anomaly is not an anomaly at all. I think what Trump tapped into is something very powerful. He tapped into white male fragility and the notion of losing the power that you talked about, the very power that you talked about, the power structure is crumbling and Trump was speaking to that and made them feel like men, made them feel strong and powerful. That same drumbeat resonated with black men. Yep So when we talked about cuz I was looking at numbers today is the anniversary of Barack Obama being elected to president The first black president of the United States y'all do it as you may this this is a fact When I looked at his exit numbers 95 plus percent black people voted for him men and women

3:11:33 With Trump, 15% of black men actually pulled the lever for Trump. I think it's gonna be the same and it's that Kanye group. It's that group that just the guys called up. They feel not powerful anymore. That the world is shifting. There's all of these different things going on. We got they's and them's now. I don't know what to do with that. We got women out there talking about they don't need us. We got this and this and that and Trump is gonna walk up the elevator with his wife behind him, not in front of him. He's not going He's gonna have the umbrella over him, not her. He calls women bitches. He tells them he can grab them by the pussy. He does all of the things that a lot of men, a lot of men just, maybe they don't do it, but they like that somebody can and be president. Right. Wow. Wow. Where do we start? Well, as a man, we're men here, so I will start by saying

3:12:23 In this case, I get to say, particularly as a white man, for the past decade, you have portrayed me, people who look like me, as a doofus, a dumbo in every commercial or television show. We're always dumb. We're always the brunt of the joke and idiot. It's okay, I can take it. But then you come around and say the problem is racism and it's just dudes doing it's the white patriarchy Not feeling the love very much. Does it have to do with all the gender stuff if for some guys maybe I don't think it's that I think that there's a Systematic attack against men in general and as this show has revealed Not just an attack but an abuse of black men

3:13:13 And then she goes on to say that we can't be smart enough. And this goes back to what we've talked about the whole show. We're not smart enough to put our own thoughts together to come up to this point of, you know what, we might need to preserve the patriarchy. Especially like you said, because in every show I watch that's targeted towards my kids, the husband and the dad is the dumbest person on the show. Here we go. Trey, Trey, how many times do I have to tell you? That's blackish. That's that's right the mom kicking the dad's ass cuz he's dumb and I'm even saying Once targeted toward the kids the parents are the most to dumbest people but the dad is the is far dumber than the mom Yeah, I mean, so that's the generational war right there. And then she says that due to by you know

3:14:06 We're living vicariously through Donald Trump now I did say Donald Trump did give his men their nuts back and what I'm saying about that is you pushed us into a corner of you know being scared to even speak I mean at some at one point men were even scared to even say anything and then you have this guy come along and say what he feels whether you agree with it or not it's like I identify as a man first and Right, and if you want me to give that up, I mean say if you want me to make that decision You won't like the answer. I've said that before So here we are and what does she do right away? Shut up Kanye. You're stupid Take his mic away and then they stitchy dish this she goes on to say that it's that Kanye group I wanted to bring a full circle. I love the Kanye. I feel I'm in the group. I'm finally in the group. I

3:14:58 Yeah, cuz Kaia's a white man, of course he would. I'm in the group cuz he's a man, but yeah. No, no I'm saying, but that's what they said, that Kaia's a white man because he's thinking in... But they lumped us all together. I made references. I'm gonna have to bring that article here and break it down one day, eventually. But black men are the white people of black people. You put us in that box all because we want to be fathers and husbands and head of the household and be protectors and all those things. But you just want us to shut up and get in the corner. And it's like, no, it don't work that way. Now can I ask you, this is an important question.

CHAPTER 29 / 30 Discussion

The Wedge Between Black Men and Women

The hosts discuss the "wedge" being driven between Black men and women by political rhetoric. They defend the role of stay-at-home moms and the desire of Black men to be protectors and providers for their families. Moe Factz argues that Black men are being treated as the "white people of Black people" simply for wanting to preserve traditional family structures. They conclude that the Democratic Party has failed to engage Black men, leaving Trump as the only voice resonating with them.

patriarchy· stay-at-home moms· black men· democratic party· masculinity

3:15:41 Right what I am concerned about is Especially with this and Karen Hunter. We'll just call her black. I don't know what her a dog doesn't matter in this case I'm very concerned that that they're the wedge that black women are driving between black men and black women is Couldn't have long-term very destructive effects. Well, but that's the point I know but they're the minority they're the minority that was doing the time no, but but Look, I... No, I want people to understand this. Yeah, go ahead. Well, I'm just trying to say, do black... Can black men not say this to their spouses? Can they not say, honey, shut up?

3:16:27 It's not it's not the point of that what it is is that it's the loudest people are the minority just like the people out in the streets protesting are the minority just like It's the loud minority. I'm sorry. I let myself pulled in by the mainstream media for a second You're right as we as we have this conversation here, but what we was talking about before I talked to Producers are women. Yes. Thank you Yeah, so that goes I mean, I'm no I looked at the list and I looked I want one to bring this up But if when you look down our list, it's about 5050 if I had to roughly just look at it I mean on a week-to-week basis. We have a large representation because a lot of women are like, you know what? We like having husbands yeah, we like having somebody protect us and we're in they feel they feel guilty and

3:17:17 For loving their husbands. I feel more sorry for them than I do for even myself. Yes, you know what? I'm gonna believe what I want to believe But when you ostracize a woman for saying oh, yeah, you just want to be a stay-at-home mom now I say this the only demographic the second demographic at the black men that are our barf and Beat up on our stay-at-home moms no matter the race. Yes true. They're complete. They're completely treated like idiots I don't appreciate it Yeah, you say even some moms that even say like they'll be embarrassed to say that their stay-at-home mom But these are the women that do the most important job in them in the world. Yeah, it's raising raising the next generation Yeah, but they're made to feel embarrassed just like black men are made in Philly feel embarrassed to be you know the the

3:18:05 You know what I'm saying? The leader of their house. To exist. To exist. No, we can exist. We can exist as long as we shut up. Hey, put the ball gag back on. Exist quietly. Yeah, exist quietly. Quiet you. Damn, man. Horrible people. Yeah, so you see what she's saying here. Yeah, I do. And you wonder why Trump resonates with these people? It's because it's, you know, it's a guy that actually says what he feels and he's above cancel culture and right behind him is Kanye. So yeah, guys do resonate with these two figures. But she continues on in the next clip. It resonates with them and I was thinking it still does.

3:18:54 that portion's not going away. As a matter of fact, I think he might have galvanized more. I think he's gonna get a lot of black men voting for him. I don't know about more. I don't think he's done anything to impress anybody who wasn't already with him. But I agree that there's gonna be... it's the same with the Hispanic vote, right? There's gonna be a cadre of people, of black and brown people, who go in for the aggressive, toxic masculinity that Trump brings to bear. There's going to be a cadre of black and brown people who go in for the bigotry. I mean, like, we can talk amongst friends here. There's a lot of bigotry in our community. There's a lot of people who are black people who are from this country being bigoted towards immigrants. There's a lot of black people who are not from this country who are bigoted towards other African Americans.

3:19:36 He was always going to be able to tap into the worst in our community in the same way that he is able to tap into the worst that is in America. Trump speaks for the worst people. Nobody's talking to black men. 866-801-8255. Not a single one of these can. Everyone's over indexing on black women. You're not gonna win against Trump just talking to black women. You're not gonna win against Trump not engaging in talking to black men. And I'm saying this because I don't hear anybody talking to black men. Period. And the only voice that actually resonates with black men is Donald Trump.

3:20:24 Who was saying this? Was this Karen? Karen Hunter! Wow! Finally! Hello! That's what we've been saying for a year now! What happened to her? All of a sudden, what? She got some sense in her mind or is she just throwing out the... she's Paul Revere. No, what she she this is the fault Karen She gets it. She used to have a thing called the Lincoln Party that she wanted started her Stephen a Smith was all about all black people need to vote Republican from one term to let people know our voting power and all that but she gets caught up in the wokeness yeah, she gets caught up in the wokeness, but now she has a

3:21:01 Finally mathematics kick in and say you know what y'all are pretty much maxed out on the women's side I mean you're doing 85 90 percent turnout pushing now you got to do some other work Right, so what about bringing the black men on board building a coalition with between between those two and then you'll have a politically viable Actually black men's position is more powerful than black women right now And then I know I went on and went on and on and on about how powerful the black women are which it is because you've seen that they've gotten a VP candidate, but you know what

3:21:38 As long as black men sit on their hands and say we're waiting on the tangibles, the Democrats are going to continue to lose and lose and lose and lose and eventually, eventually, they'll be bent to our will. Or just lose. I don't care. I really don't care at this point. Just regarding Kanye. Woosah. Woosah. Yeah, where'd my wussa go? For some reason I lost the wussa. You need one real bad. I'm a baby boomer. I don't know what that was about. As a white man, and I think and I know there are several white men who feel very comfortable saying I'm gonna vote for Kanye. I'm gonna write him in.

3:22:27 Because it's a it's in a weird way Moe. It's safe. It's super safe. Yeah, cuz you're not voting for Trump You get a bonus card because you know, it's not a Democrat you voted you voted and you kind of you kind of feel good like It's probably gonna help Trump or at least it's not gonna help Biden. It's a very very is It's too bad because if people really would just get off their high horse and their wokeness, it's a really fascinating election. This is a three-horse race now, and we know what the one with the three legs is going to be limping along, but it's in the race. And that just always changes the odds. It always does. But no, we just got to bitch and moan about everything. But that was pretty good. I'm impressed by Karen. It's OG Karen.

3:23:22 She came back for a second. Yeah, and like I said, she gets it. She looks at the numbers. It's like black male voter. I mean, turnout itself is way down. Yeah, I mean, when you start and then you give 15% over to Trump, where the Republicans normally get 5%. That's a 300% uptick. That's noticeable. I don't care how you try to marginalize, it's only 15%. But no, from five to 15, it's huge. And that's why Trump was like, you know, they'll vote 80%, he's trolling of course, but he said they'll vote for me 80%. Because he knows that black men are tired. We're so tired of not being respected.

3:24:10 When we do the right things, I mean, you lump us in, you say we're helpless. Oh, we got to go protect black men from the police. I mean, like I said, police violence is a problem. It's not really the murders, it's the constant terrorism. But I would say this, stop dinking around with our houses and saying we can raise our kids. You built this system. We didn't build this. And I'm looking at you Democrats. So I mean, we're not that complex in the sense of what we want. And I found this clip from show number six that kind of just tells you what black men want. Now we have a lot of people making plenty of money and lonely. They're placing money before family. You see, black men want to do what white men do.

CHAPTER 30 / 30 Discussion

Angela Stanton-King and the Future of the Black Family

Angela Stanton-King, a Congressional candidate in Georgia and goddaughter of Alveda King, is highlighted as a powerful new conservative voice. In an interview on The Breakfast Club, she challenged the "feminization" of Black boys and the strategic placement of abortion clinics in Black neighborhoods. The hosts praise her for being "genuine" and suggest a "Kanye-King 2024" ticket as a potential future for the movement.

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3:25:05 By their family house in the suburbs to cars and once a year go down to Orlando for Disney World vacation And when black men can't do that, they don't feel they're worthy enough to stay. That's right. That's how we want It's not that hard not that hard But then you call me the white people of black people because I want to be part of society and provide for my family. I mean, it's disgusting. But I will say this, I will say this. Out of all the darkness... No! Wait, we're gonna end it on a high note. Whoa, I was already swamped over. No, no, no, no, no. An ally has arisen from the darkness. Oh no, who could this be? Her name is Angela Stanton, and God bless her.

3:26:03 For me personally, I'm a conservative because I don't believe in handouts. I believe in handouts. When we talk about the Democratic Party, it's a large focus on welfare, right? People only need welfare for a certain amount of time. We don't need to become lifelong welfare recipients. I'm also not... We lost you. There we go. I'm sorry. I'm also not a Democrat because of abortion. This is my thing. Roe v. Wade was passed off of a lie. As of right now where we are, we're always crying about being an oppressed minority, but we are always going to be an oppressed minority if we continue to abort our offspring. Abortion is the biggest genocide against Black America.

3:26:46 They strategically place their abortion clinics in our neighborhoods, and every time you hear a Democratic candidate go on stage, the first thing they say is, Black women need access to abortion. It's actually health care. It's called health care. Yeah, no I hear you. That's the point. She won't use the talking points. And so Angela Stanton, she's running for Congress in Georgia, right? She's a very interesting lady. She's a goddaughter of... Of King. Alveda King. Alveda King, yes. And she was in jail.

3:27:29 She was let me get you go ahead. Her bio was amazing. She was in jail. She was pardoned by Donald Trump. Mm-hmm. She they came at her with the LGBT attacks, but she has a gay son. Whoa! She got a card! She's anti-abortion, but she's had an abortion in the past. Uh oh, another card! Right, so everything they try to put on her, she was on welfare, but she said welfare made her lazy and only she'd only thrive once they took her off of welfare. She's

3:28:06 About a man been in the house. She talks about no man in the house and she has street credibility Trump has some very interesting people starting to back him It's not your normal run-of-the-mill conservatives like oh, you know, I mean, I know that's stereotypical, but I did it anyway, but you know I'm saying like That's the you know, it's this stereotypical conservative in a black person's mind so-called black person's mind is a black person who wants to be white and She is the furthest thing from that. She speaks the language. She, you know that swag they talk about the Barack Obama hair? She has that. So when you start, you talk about giving a black woman, you know what I'm saying, you know,

3:28:51 the platform to take up for black men and black family and black children and point out the the emasculation of black males be it boys I mean she doesn't really care about men she said grown men they do what they want to do but she's talking about the young boys this was on hot this was this was on breakfast club I was just about to ask where the what this came from this is very I don't know why they brought it but this leads more to my Charlemagne tha God being A double agent or something. Why would he bring her on there? And she cut through them like hot hot knife through butter It was three on one. I mean even had to did Charlamagne maybe not expect that Did he did he not I don't know what he expected but she mowed him down and all the comments were giving her all her props It was it was amazing

3:29:44 And then one thing I couldn't clip because they were over talking each other, but Charlamagne's co-host DJ Envy, she was listening to all the things Trump done, and she said he did Opportunity Zones. And DJ Envy said, Opportunity Zones are not for black people. Remember Charlemagne Charlemagne was all about the opportunity zones with the Nipsey Hussle in the show that we did on the opportunity zone. Which is how we met. That's how we met initially because of the part of that I guess. Yeah, yeah, the research you did on that on the Nipsey Hussle research, but he couldn't say anything. I was like, I was like

3:30:25 God, that's so beautiful. Not even retweeting it. And actually, that's one of my highest retweets right now is the support of her. She has my full support. I mean, she doesn't have my vote, but she has my full support of giving her, like we talked about Kanye, the uninterrupted space to speak. I like her. And so she has a picture of her on her Wikipedia page where she looks like she Now she's all dressed up in some traditional garb. Yeah, the kente cloth. Yeah, I call that tradition. That's Nancy Pelosi garb, which she's dressed up in. But you look at her campaign website, stantonkingforcongress.com, she looks badass, man. Holy crap. She looks feminine. She looks incredibly feminine, but she looks like she has a look in her eye like

3:31:22 with with huge fake eyelashes which I'd like to and she's like that's the point I will kick your ass and she got little tattoos she got prison tattoos this is great look at her she is a badass woman. To be honest with you outside of Kanye I think she may be one of Trump's biggest assets going into this election especially in Georgia If she gets any picks up any steam, yeah, and she could talk the lingo to black women say hey You could be feminine you could be strong to you're saying you don't you don't have to emasculate a black man to be strong Or you don't have to be a masculine a man period to be a strong woman I mean we both have different jobs or roles to play but yeah She's all about it. And I guess we'll wrap up with this last clip. We could talk about afterwards but

3:32:13 This is her running for black men. How does it benefit black America? Y'all talking about restoring right? Black America, restoring our lives, restoring our economy, restoring our families. How does it even benefit black America to encourage our men to become women? Because first of all, if anybody understands the strategies of war, if it's trying to take out a colony of people, the first thing they do is remove the men. So as a woman, first of all, I need my man. I need my black man. You know, I need you to be a man. I need you to lead. I don't need you to be competition. I don't need you to feel like you a woman or feel like you are me because I don't have to give my crown away. So no, I don't support

3:33:00 Feminizing especially not our boys, but if you're old man, you want to make a decision that that's what you want to do That's what you want to do, but I don't have to support it and I don't and tell me how does it benefit us? Okay, I like her. That is great. No wonder she no wonder she got the the LGBTQ all over her for saying that Damn, how can she? How can she when she has a son in the community and she has an aunt and other family members? It's a brain freeze. That's great And her kid was born in jail her kid was born in jail Yes, that's the best part of the boxes. Oh my gosh you you can't hit her with the diamond silk attacks or don't kind of thing because

3:33:50 She's like, I've lived that life. I went to jail doing illegal stuff and I can come back and tell you it's not beneficial. That lifestyle is not beneficial and everything that comes with it, with the removal of the men and the emasculation of the men. It was... You ready for it? You ready for it, Mo? Kanye King 2024. What a ticket that would be. What a ticket that would be. Oh, ho, ho, ho. Woo! That would be fantastic. And that would really be something else. Keep your eye out on her. That would be something else.

3:34:29 Because she's genuine. She has the same thing that Kanye and Trump have with Gofun. They're genuine. They might be genuinely flawed, but they're genuine. So interesting. I didn't even know about her. I appreciate this. This is great. You're right. There's not just a silver lining. There's a sun coming up behind the cloud. Wow. Excellent. Excellent, Mo. So this was probably our longest episode. But of course, we're making up for two. Yes. So there's that and it was a great potluck. I enjoy these immensely. Thank you so much Mo. I had a good time. You know, I got to do a little bit in the prep of this one which was fun. Yep. And thank you for Angela Stanton King. Finally I have someone to send my hundred dollars to. I only do one of you. Sister, sister, sister. Sister, sister, sister. I'll send you some Soros cash from Texas.

3:35:27 Wow, that's great. Very cool. And as I always say, Adam, if you pay attention to everything, the truth will reveal itself. And we will do that for everybody once again on Saturday. We promise to make good on as much as we can make good on. Mo, thanks again so much, man. All right, Adam, see you next week. Yeah, have fun with kid number five. Alright, everybody will see you then. Check us out, mofax.com. Bye bye. But my answer, ha ha ha All that you's mister Talking about you, I'm a little deeper It all depends on what you do It ain't too bad the way you use me Cause I sure am using you to do the things you do Now how to do the things you do