35: Take That, Take That

00:03 Mo Facts with Adam Curry from May 4th, 2020. This is episode number 35 and it's Rona time so we'll just pretend this is Saturday who cares? Hey Mo how you doing man I'm doing good, how about yourself Adam? Yeah real good. You know we uh you sent me the bat signal on Saturdays like oh down the rabbit hole we go so um you know we all know what that means this stuff doesn't write itself people it's not magic It really doesn't have a lot of... We don't have any writers So like i said and always when I get that itch I can't stop until its fully scratched What was the lyric

00:49 Oh man, what was it? That scratch is making me itch. What song was that now I'm talking like before you were born probably It's like Joe Tex or something Do you remember that? You don't know the loose caboose are you kidding me? Wait wait seriously never heard of the loose caboose I've probably heard it, but i can't recall it. Oh man. Put me on the spot Adam. Hold on let me just see... Let me see if I can get lucky here for a second Why not? It's uh we're-it's Rona time We're going crazy that's what's happening Here we go Oh my god this is a real old one That's Soul Train right there man See that's how old I am

01:47 Now I'm gonna have to go look that up. I gotta have a visual But the best part is this little kid comes on Anyway See we almost grew up with the same things in a way mo just uh, there's a decade difference something like that Okay. So anyway everyone's good. The family is good everyone in good health Everybody's doing well can't complain about how it are you and everybody is good All the kids I think now got their unemployment. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but at least they're getting by so and there's necessary thing it is yeah It is well. I don't feel bad about him man. It's like they're giving our own money back So uh I don't feel too bad about that

02:35 And it gives us lots of time to hang out at home, like I wasn't living here already but to prepare great stuff for everybody who's listening to the show. and i know a lot of people have been sitting at home jonesing just waiting for something good to come out. I think this streaming services are just about empty. Everyone has probably already streamed everything so this is... We don't repackage here so we come up with a fresh show every week Is it time? I guess we can... yeah, go ahead and give that one a spin. Alright! Here we go, it's time to find out what is the topic as we spin The Wheel of Topics It's Theater Of The Mind people Where it stops nobody knows But Mo Fax might have some kind of idea Today's topic is.... I will hold the vote hostage if I have too

03:32 Did this register on your timeline, on your media feed anywhere? Honest I've been so engrossed in Corona crap that it may have. I did not see it and also my timeline is... It's hard to look at any timeline anymore What the hell happened?! This is Diddy! No, I didn't catch this did not catch what's going on. All right Well, let's just hop right into number two in the rapper PD He was in a live stream with Naomi Campbell I believe for her YouTube show and he talked about the Democratic Party taking the black vote for granted Particularly with respect to Vice President Biden. He said he's even willing to hold his vote quote hostage. No listen to what he said

04:17 In order for us to vote for Biden, we can't be taken for granted like we always are because we're supposed to be Democrats or people are afraid of Trump. It's whoever is going to take care of our community and whoever wants to make a deal it's business at this point You know, we can't trust politicians. So we want to know very clearly just like Trump made it clear that he wanted build a wall Biden needs to make it clear that he's going to change the lives and quality of life of black and brown people else you can get the vote I will hold the vote hostage if I have too Okay, okay For those of you who have been listening since episode 1 it's been about 30 weeks And you've heard this message consistently that this was going to happen and did he is no small fish when it comes to this kind of statement not at all and he said the black social media Fire

05:21 To the point where it made it to The Hill. And this is who's doing the reporting now with Sagar, and I forget the other lady's name... She's my...I like her now What was her name? From The Hill? Yes No, I don't know You were just talking about her with John But anyway Oh Crystal Ball Crystal Ball. I was thinking of some kind of household appliance or something, and I was like... Was it Dyson vacuum cleaner? No, Crystal Ball! Got it got it got it yes so crystal ball the Sagar it made it to their platform so that lets you know how big a deal that was So what we're gonna do is

06:10 As we always do, dig into what Diddy actually said. What his political background is, his political history is how it was received and what we can really take from this. I like it! This is going to be similar to the Kanye show and Kanye and Diddy are quite similar. I would say Kanye's probably kind of like 2.0 of Diddy now for people didn't didn't Kanye didn't they do stuff back in the day? And were they at some point working together is that just my oh, yeah They worked together before but i'm just saying that the archetype go sure. Yeah kind of walks right in the same Footsteps that did he did so i'm just saying that this is gonna be a very similar

06:56 Examination that's unexpected because I have my opinion just from what I know is Kanye not exactly the same as Diddy, but did he's a little more mysterious? So I'm not quite sure where he stands on stuff necessarily What as we get in the show way He's made it right quite clear where he stands But if this doesn't make the media rounds as much well of course It's probably not a popular message with the with the media So let's let crystal ball and sag are continue with part two That's quite a statement. I will hold the vote hostage if i have to, P Diddy willing to go further than Bernie Sanders and most people on the left. Really that is a radical statement in todays sort of hyper partisan politics but I think alot of people feel that way basically like you're always going tell us we'll get ya next time around Next time around were gonna focus on this time we just have to beat

07:57 opponent because the opponent is so bad whether that's Donald Trump or Mitt Romney and George W. Bush and next time around whoever it is that we have to beat, they're so bad like you have to toe the line You have to vote for this guy And the sentiment there is like no actually I don't That's pretty clear. But it is so radical to ask for something for your vote! Well by the way, the white people are all in on this too- the white Democrats... Clearly nobody with a brain looks at Joe Biden and says that that's the guy I mean yeah maybe one day 30 years ago but oh we have to we have to vote for him because Trump

08:42 Exactly. Battle 45, so it's amazing I always point out on this show whatever happens with us first Whatever happened in the primaries This is true saw this coming but somehow it caught the Democrats by surprise Surprise, how did you not see these coming? I mean we've been saying this for like you said that's the beginning of his show and that's kind of how our whole relationship started was offer this sentiment and

09:19 And that's an interesting point because all it really took is for someone to speak and someone to listen. You know, there's a million reasons why you wouldn't have to reach out to me as a million reason I'm like who's this kook? I don't want listening right that that's literally all it took like Who knows this guy might have I was on my honeymoon Like who's this guy now my honeymoon interrupted you and you and you wanted to know I could tell that because you said the word DOS. And I'm like, okay now he's digging in the weeds to pull that terminology out from compared to mainstream is like... You're actually doing your homework? I was like well let me share some more information and that's kind of what we do on this show now is... Well now it's a lot about howdy Now I only do this show just to find out what's gonna happen to me

10:14 It's the only reason I'm here now, Moe. It's just early warning system. Like go back and warn my brothers and sisters hey this is coming! If it works for you look whatever works for you if are you considered that a tangible idea? Hell yeah very tangible very tangible okay well I just want to let people know the title of this video I took this from was Diddy's shocking in all caps message to Biden on behalf of black voters. I will hold the vote, I can get it all caps hostage so it really

11:00 I'm wondering what Diddy is up to but we're gonna get into that. Let's let Crystal Ball and Sagar continue And i'm not convinced that doing that is ultimately in the best interest of my community Because it never has been in the past because every time we just go along and accept the scraps That you're willing to give us You think that we're going to do that next time around? And so we only ever end up up with scraps. Pretty wild to hear him articulate it, but you know it's not that wild because that isn't... That's how a normal person thinks right? He say this is business! It's like a business transaction which I'm not gonna just you can't just keep promising something and under-not deliver or not even promise anything what do they want we're not even promised anything hey did they not have actual audio of him saying this they're just gonna date they have a transcript where'd this come from and where did he say this

11:50 He said it all the Naomi Campbell up there were like a live stream I think she has kind of like a show live stream show like they want the supermodel naomi campbell yes. I have the full clip i'm gonna play that but I just wanted to play their action too because This is the bubbling over and the reaction of what he said. I got you And as Sagar said, normal people ask for something in return So we haven't been normal all these years i guess Well okay you took it that way, interesting point No no what I mean is... I got ya yeah

12:31 The point what I'm making is it is abnormal. What's going on in a way? Yes, it is This behavior. Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with them yeah Everything that they've captured so far and this is what I've been saying and have lot of other people have been saying and being verbally abused and called all kind of names and treat it bad for just Being on normal human beings of expected something back or give me something right So I think this set of clips that we have here is just validation. It's just pure, pure validation for everything. Yeah no kidding! And I'm literally hearing what you would since the day I met you, I'm literally hearing this now from PD it's great and since they're on a roll let's not stop them yeah look if you accept

13:21 You're going to get more scraps and lip service. And at a certain point you have to say, no I don't accept it and the only way to actually wield that power as we've talked about here the entire Democratic Party's political strategy this is their greatest innovation over the past 30 years not policies, not principles it's this political strategy of telling the left especially the economic populist left basically screw you innovation and assuming that you're gonna have to show up anyway. And much as you may not be happy about it, you're gonna have to toe the line because the opposition is so much worse." I'm impressed by Crystal Ball! She's lit she knows what's going on with this. Now we'll have to give it to The Heal that they had their thumb on the pulse of what's going on

14:13 politics. Now, of course they have a motive behind that because they're not the establishment I don't see them as the established establishment corporate media so they're fighting about back fighting against that and their fighting back but they're looking for allies which i'm fine with him being ally cuz there voicing an opinion that we've Highlighted on the show and we've highlighted over and over again. Mm-hmm So I definitely appreciate what she said, and I just feel like I say I feel so validated Yeah, and rightly so I'm just looking who owns the hill where does it go? Who's behind this thing? That's a good question Who is behind the human see? 94 Democratic founded in the 94 but Democratic power broker of the New York business and Jerry Finkelstein or steen

15:09 And Martin Tolchin, former correspondent for the New York Times. It's purely political I know that but then I know he died and someone else took over... Well the way they're talking it sounds like the Russians own them because I mean they're supporting black bots! Well you know what with no kidding with this kind of talk The Hill will be marginalized and there are definitely more bigger fans of They're making a lot of enemies, which as you asked for and as we always do. We like to go and get the source material so I have the clip it's about 50 seconds long of Diddy talking to Naomi Kimball. The black vote is not going be for free. We're gonna have this see some promises

16:00 You know, what are we getting in return for our vote? Nothing has changed for black America. And in order for us to vote for Biden, We can't be taken for granted like we always are because we're supposed to be Democrats or because people are afraid of Trump. It's whoever is going take care of our community. Whoever wants to make a deal it's business at this point You know, we can't trust politicians. So we want to know very clearly just like Trump made it clear that he wanted build a wall, Biden needs to make it clear that he's going to change the lives and quality of life of black and brown people or else you can't get the vote I will hold the vote hostage if I have too. We said here set at first breaking news! Breaking News!

16:46 What kind of clout does did he have do you think in this in this case huge? Diddy has a lot of clout and now I will say this He's always Kept his image somewhat tied to the quote-unquote streets where a lot of other people went corporate and He didn't really take the corporate route of what you see with music executives. He's always kept his ear, and that's why I think he knows that he is taking the temperature to figure out what is really going on because that's kind of his niche

17:32 Figure out what the streets want and give it to him in a way. They didn't realize they wanted it I did that with his music yeah, I agree with that but She's you've definitely very Diddy is a corporate entity so he did go the corporate route But I agree that he just maybe he's just more real than some of the other guys Because he does he does have a feel like he picks it He has a feel for but the guy is very good at business And what I mean by corporate, of course he's corporate. He owned a large billion dollar businesses What i'm saying is that he didn't isolate himself from what the people in the streets wanted. He always stayed connected in some kind of way Agreed Whereas well a lot of other ones they put the suit on they go up in the penthouse and Right okay? I got you yeah What comparison I'll give you say at Jay-z for instance

18:27 Did he would know how it will land to make a deal with NFL? He'll be here. We'll be more aware and not tall how that will be received by the people right whereas the Jay-z, he's become so corporate minded there if the bottom line is the bottom line that It kind of it kind of missed him how it will be received for some and some of the moves he made well That's that's the yeah, and the proof is in what? He's doing right here. This is not a Brand-safe statement this is not this kind of statements at political statement than anybody who has business to lose makes easily so Kudos to Diddy for this but it depends on your brand But that's a little foreshadowing, but we'll get to that later

19:18 So I had a little throwback clip from show 18 just to give people an idea if you talked about talk like this maybe a year, year and a half ago how you were talking about what would happen to you. Because if we know, as we've seen that the ones who are the most valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused on getting black people to do only one thing not vote for the Democrats. And can you name what of those five campaigns? I mean, we put up from the report that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice campaign

19:58 conversation. There's an immigration, go on. Reparations, immigration and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system so the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything the hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. Very quickly, we're out of time but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing Black Lives Matter and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do even tell So you tell right away by the language that they use most of the time, but if you see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without us getting something back. You should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying. Better look at those accounts and seeing what they're saying. Yeah it's probably racist

20:51 And racist bots. That's what going on there. Diddy Bots! He was a diddy bot! Yeah, it wasn't Diddy man that was a deep fake. Noami Campbell Deep Fake Now we see how far we've come. Just a year really from then to now where you had these crazy bots on the, that's how we were labeled on the internet talking this crazy want something for their vote? Yeah. So you have a major celebrity coming out and saying well we should probably trade our vote for something now that something is where I'll take issue with but I don't want to get into that just yet

21:32 But I felt the tides are turning. And one of my favorite places, I like to go take the temperature at is Miss Karen Hato show. Oh yeah throw on that serious satellite Right, so on her show like a maybe a week or two ago She had an interesting segment called what is the black vote worth? We support black candidates all the time But somehow the message is not getting to the people because they're not showing up to vote we just had Houston representative on who was running she lost in the primary and I thought she would have been dynamic but they're not showing up because they don't have faith and they feel like 40 50 years. They've been

22:11 asked to give up a vote with nothing in return. And that's the retort, so it's hard to sit here every day and argue that you should just vote Democrat because we don't want another reelected Trump but what are we getting? There's no reparations on the table I get that. What policy should be really pushing? I dunno Drew help me. Drew can't help you but i'll help you Karen! It's one of all request that we have and that's well to actually reparations is the first one. And that's the big ask, and as I always tell people reparation equal to open borders or for just say pro-life people abolishing Roe versus Wade these things are it's a it's an election issue

23:06 Right, and it's a mild one. It's like okay how far are we from this big ask? Now you might... Okay we don't want to get rid of open borders but what we can do is relax ICE or you're headed towards that way. So we might not get to reparations right away, but we need to see those tangible steps to getting to that point. Do I get to read Joe Biden's announcement yet or do you want to make me? Please! Please! Well i want to read his tweet actually because that was the funniest part and then i'll read you the uh...the part that says it all so at joebiden dot com slash black america

23:50 This is a very long, it's Lift Every Voice the Biden Plan for Black America. I'll just wait wait wait right there Wait right there this is appropriation you might not know this lift every voice is the first bar of the... Lift every voice yes of course The first bars of the Negro National Anthem It starts off with lift every voice and sing Well don't get too excited Mo. No, I'm just telling you yes it I Get it the spell is a spell go ahead Now I understand why they wrote this now when you said it I was like oh okay? I get it You call that a spell that's interesting mm-hmm mind manipulation

24:36 Right? Mm-hmm. Joe Biden knows that African Americans can never have a fair shot at the American dream so long as entrenched disparities are allowed to quietly chip away at opportunity. Hello, Quincy Jones what?! He is running for president to rebuild our economy in a way that finally brings everyone along and that starts by rooting our systemic racism from rooting out systemic racism from our laws, our policies, our institutions and our hearts. And then it goes right into... I'll give you a summary. COVID-19 blah blah blah

25:18 education, blah blah blah people of color minorities blah blah blah poor people African-American buy a new home minorities get accredited blah blah blah and then all of a sudden reparations what hold on a second tackle systemic here it is this is the only paragraph but here it is. Tackle systemic racism and support a study of the continuing impacts of slavery I'll read this because already, yeah, I know you're suspicious. As Biden has said in this campaign a Biden administration will support a study of reparations! No no wait Joe! Biden will begin on day one of his administration to address the systemic racism and do some studies. Dude didn't we just have a whole study?

26:16 He was the only one that didn't participate. He wanted to do his own study, so it's just a non- I mean of course I texted that to you That's a non starter And I see your study and now raise you a study with Karen Hunter featuring Cory Booker. But I just want to say the reparations bill introduced for the first time in the Senate, thank you very much as my, I sponsored it in the Senate we're seeing progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about that weren't even being talked about. Reparation was a major issue when the campaign of the 2020 campaign, who are making progress by here what you're saying, can we've had this conversation?

26:56 You should have just had me as a co-host to your show like 10 years ago. We could've, we could... You have been invited sir! Don't play that game with me today! And happy belated birthday so you got me Clay and Senator Booker all bulls So we already know what's coming out right? Cory If you have a bunch of bulls then you know what's coming out don't ya Adam Well yes Bullshit That's what it is Did you catch what he said in the first 20 seconds of that clip? Uh, no because I was adjusting my ears to it. So I didn't quite catch it but I'd love to run it back and see if you could catch what he said. But I just want to say the reparations bill introduced for the first time in the Senate... They said something about the reparations bill is introduced the reparations bill for the first time into this sentence It's past that. Okay. The reparation bill introduced for the first time in the Senate

27:52 Thank you very much as my I sponsored in the Senate. He sponsored that Keep going We're seeing progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about There weren't even being talked about reparations was a major issue in the campaign of the 2020 campaign Okay, tell me what your no? No, I don't think so he said that we couldn't even talk about well Maybe he couldn't talk about it now What does he mean by that? That was very, because he fixed it after he said it. I know I'm nitpicking here. No, I'm with you. I want to pick up the... You're saying we couldn't even talk about that? That means somebody's telling you- But what couldn't it be? Let me just listen. ... progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about, they weren't even being talked about reparations

28:42 Yeah, okay. I hear you that is a good flood when just go back a little Thank you very much as my eye I sponsored the Senate we're seeing progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about They weren't even being talked about reparations Okay, gotcha yes That is interesting, but of course if you... I'm just looking at it from his perspective. If you talk about this and get labeled a Russian bot then maybe he was wary because of that? And the media made him not be able to talk about it or...?

29:19 Yeah, but the point I'm making is the Democratic Party aka the savior of all black people on the face this earth Couldn't even talk about it. Talk about it? If you can't talk about it who can talk about it? That's a good catch that's a very good catch especially from Booker right cuz he fixed it up after they said oh well He did! That's a good catch. So...I don't want to be dead mean No no hey Spartacus can handle it So now, as we always do, we have to go back. I want to look at Diddy's political evolution and start in 2004

30:08 with the vote or die campaign. See, when you vote for a president this November you are putting your life and the lives of your family in the hands of someone else. If I'm scaring you? Good! Because that's how serious this is." Had no fan of Bush and we know that. This is true but if I'm scaring you good yeah. I want to show- I'm highlighting this point is...this was when he was fully drinking the Kool Aid

30:54 of vote or die, you know your whole life depends on your life. Not your livelihood not your quality of life but your actual life depending on who was the president." Well then that's a very powerful message but it's somewhat exaggerated probably I mean in fact the same thing is being told now politicians are literally saying Life are it's Donald Trump re-election is an existential threat We will die so it's not it's not it's used. It's used, but yeah did he was all in He was all in and he and but didn't hate Obama after a while or you had to some kind of beef with Obama Goggles in place I'm sorry

31:46 And let's let Diddy finish up with his voter die campaign. These are the issues that the people are concerned about But just as politicians have a responsibility So do we you can't hold them accountable if we don't hold ourselves accountable We have to vote because no politician is going to deal with these issues unless they feel your power and and they will not feel you unless you vote. Trust me, neither party has factored your vote into their equation Neither party thinks that you're going to step up and vote but they are afraid of what will happen if you do because then they will be forced to deal with the issues that are important to you

32:26 the forgotten ones. Let me repeat, the forgotten ones over 40 million youth and minority voters will be the deciding factor on who will be the next president of United States trust me just an impression just from a couple things you said at the beginning of that clip if you remove the vote or die part it almost sounded a bit like Malcolm X neither party has your interests at heart Yeah, there was a little influence going on there. He did but he says neither party has accounted for your vote. Now I understand what you're saying but before that yeah he got some vibe going but yeah the whole... Oh no and this is Young Diddy too. Young Diddy was a very

33:16 outspoken. That's why I say he reminds you a lot of Kanye, but in a different way where they come from the same him, Kanye Trump there all the similar animals. I was just going to say they'll have their own extremities and Diddy is probably seemingly has it together more than the rest? Yes yes He's more social Yeah yeah he's more social than other two You can bring him home to meet mom. Yeah, the other two problem. Yeah So this voter die thing was so popular that even South Park took time to poke fun at it Friend Kyle told me you don't understand the importance of voting Apparently you haven't heard about voter die campaign What do you think it means bitch

34:20 you Vote or die, mother f- Mother f-er vote or die Rock the voto else I'm gonna stick a knife through your eye Democracy is founded on one simple rule Get out there and voto or I will mother f- kill you Yeah...I like it when you vote bitch Shake them titties when you vote bitch I slam my jimmy through your mouth roof Now get your big ass in the polling booth I said vote bitch Or I'll f-ing kill you I'll vote. I hadn't heard that, it's great! That was fantastic. They basically were playing on the fact that your life is going to end if you don't vote which

35:23 When I heard this campaign, I just gotta give you an insight where I was at in life. Before... Now hold up how old are you? This is a 16 years ago. I'm 20-I am 23 years old. Uh huh. This was the only election i voted in Because Diddy was gonna kill ya? No because this was when Bush was the devil Well, yeah. No I mean like literally I mean that's anti-christ i mean uh um so it was like oh you gotta get out there you know? So I was all well go you know chip in and vote past that...

36:14 2000 what was I doing mm? I don't know but this is kind of like you know when your I was think This was your first vote right. This is my first vote, and it was like after that was like that was pointless Cuz nothing changed and then okay, then they gave us Obama oh eight and

36:59 And they had caught up with him when he was casting his vote in 08 for the US presidential election. And let's listen to what he had to say People have died and fought for us to have this right, so the exercise is right today It's like giving back to Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks and everybody that fought for us to have this right to vote As a representative of the youthful I think that this year we're going to shock the world, we're gonna break all the numbers and records ever. And I think we'll be responsible for who's next president of United States so it is very important. It is for my kids not even me but for my kids to have a better life We especially are not voting for nobody just because they black

37:40 We're voting for him because he's the best candidate. And we probably judge him harder than other ethnic groups would, like he has to be extra qualified for us to vote for him and that's why we're voting for not because he's black you know what I'm saying? It does feel good that we finally have somebody that's actually qualified that's given a chance You know and um... He was given a chance so he took advantage of it and we there for him I'm not buying it. No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. But like i said he was caught up in the moment every around 08 everybody was caught up in the moment but this is after 01

38:22 That's when I got my real like being skeptical thing. It was like what? What is this all about? I mean cuz what not a legend, I'm sorry Can you just bookmark for us in future we should actually do a show and and I'd love to To bring some of my research to this on Obama's rise because that's the part to me that's what I saw as I get what he did what where is he coming from And you know and that's a story that to this day is still active news, with Blagojevich. Yeah and I'm gonna say this...I've said it before I'll say it again Obama wasn't the boule's choice! The black power political power structure was owned and operated by Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family, I mean Clinton clan but

39:20 When Obama was just such a charismatic person, and this is what we pointed out in the Bernie Sanders episode. He actually attacked her and showed how she was a poor candidate so that swung a lot of votes his way and then the bullae naturally just follows where the power structure goes. But in 2008, it wasn't a given that he was going to win from the black point of view because you had a lot of black supporters that were Clinton supporters. Right? Oh I'm sure! I just want to make sure we do some show about that in the future. We definitely can because that was very interesting case how he came out of nowhere and when I say nowhere, I mean no where. Really nowhere.

40:16 So we're going to fast forward from 08 to 2016 and then he starts to change a little bit. You know, I'm going to be announcing something very big if they don't stand up and talk about how things are going to change for the voting blocs that they're going for. They need to put them in office. They need African-American voting blocs and Latino voting blocs. And they're not bringing up issues and making strong enough commitments for our votes. So we have to be undecided, we have to hold our votes and just hear what they have to say and tomorrow if they don't talk about what they're going to do for our communities that are in such dire service that we're gonna have something to say about that

41:13 kind of teach and educate from my perspective of you know starting vote or die and being involved in how I'm disenfranchised with not seeing enough attention to a voting block that is just kinda guaranteed They, they people count their votes without dealing with the issues. So we can't guarantee anybody Hillary Clinton to vote. We can't guarantee Donald Trump to vote. We have to make sure that they're talking about our issues. That's how the game is played. We are going to make a difference and we are going to be educating people but we hope that they recognize it and speak on it so we're gonna see but if not there something else will be done more powerful than voter die

42:02 Wow, man. I never knew this diddy 2016 huh? That's 2016 I like how he sounds there it sounds great You can hear him change from 2004 where he was like all just a block that's uncounted and unaccounted for he became more politically aware oh yeah of Of the black bloc vote and now he starting to say yeah you all are very dependent upon This block to be able to win And he actually continues on to talk like this in 2016, but it didn't really pick up any news. Because I mean he was really couching his statements very carefully Well God bless him man because when it comes to this particular issue depending on how vocal he gets you know...I fear for him if he really goes all out on this and says what she clearly did

43:01 I'm blocking the vote, it's not gonna happen. Holy crap! They take people out for nothing man. Yeah that is why i said this sent shockwaves through the whole... No small aviation no hot tubs Give them the list Kirk, give them the list That's enough, thats enough for now So even further in 2016, he went to MSNBC and he sat down with Al Sharpton to talk about education and presidential politics. You know I know the kind of influence you have. I've seen all over the country all over the world

43:45 world and you say that of the political stuff, but if you could tell either candidate I know you know Mrs. Clinton, you know Trump the importance of young people what would you want them to know? I don't want you getting into politics whoever's next president is what do they need to help young people become successful so i think number one they have to pay attention and speak to young people A lot of young people aren't going to show up. They got to get the right people, so talk to the young people. And they're very disenfranchised you know I mean my number one thing though and To be honest is black people. I feel like We put President Obama in

43:01 I'm blocking the vote, it's not gonna happen. Holy crap! They take people out for nothing man. Yeah that is why i said this sent shockwaves through the whole... No small aviation no hot tubs Give them the list Kirk, give them the list That's enough, thats enough for now So even further in 2016, he went to MSNBC and he sat down with Al Sharpton to talk about education and presidential politics. You know I know the kind of influence you have. I've seen all over the country all over the world

43:45 world and you say that of the political stuff, but if you could tell either candidate I know you know Mrs. Clinton, you know Trump the importance of young people what would you want them to know? I don't want you getting into politics whoever's next president is what do they need to help young people become successful so i think number one they have to pay attention and speak to young people A lot of young people aren't going to show up. They got to get the right people, so talk to the young people. And they're very disenfranchised you know I mean my number one thing though and To be honest is black people. I feel like We put President Obama in

44:30 in the White House. And when I look back, I just wanted more done for my people because that's the name of the game. This is politics. You put somebody in office you get in return the things that you care about for your communities. I think we got a little bit shortchange and that's not knocking the president, you know there is alot going on, he has done an excellent job but i think it's time to turn up the heat because the black vote is gonna decide who is the next President of United States so I hope that... Turn Up The Heat! Okay what year was this? This was 2016 as well

45:13 Well 15, 16. Right okay alright so this is before all right wow This is still during the Trump Hillary election Yes But it was something weird about that whole exchange because Al Sharpton's telling you I don't want to make you political but your talking about presidential politics and I don't know if Diddy told him like hey I want to get political Why else are you on that show? Right, he's walking this fine line of not wanting to piss people off but he knows. It's kind like you know the truth but can't tell the truth

45:53 and I think this is all building up to get to the point where we're at now. And of course Fox News took this sound bite and ran with it, and disappointed Diddy rapper says Obama shortchanged blacks! Okay that is the whitest sentence I've ever read. Disappointed Diddy rapper says Obama short-changed blacks Rapper Sean Diddy Combs knocking President Obama for disappointing the black community and issuing a call to action when it comes to Hillary Clinton. I feel like we put President Obama in the White House, and when I look back, I just wanted more done for my people. I think we got a little bit shortchanged. Hillary Clinton

46:46 I hope she starts to directly talk to the black community. As a community, we gotta hold our vote." So you see how Fox News uh... Well of course! Of course they should. That's their job is to spin but- But do what's interesting the bias so and that kind of liked the way he put those clips together so you have Diddy first saying hey man he seems like the qualified guy now When you look at Obama, you listen to Obama. You look at whatever record there was publicly available of him he looks absolutely qualified He's definitely I mean we love presidents like this Actors Ronald Reagan! Great orators...Obama looked good had the right height spoke beautiful beautiful vocabulary and comedic timing

47:46 I mean professional comedic timing. So in that regard, fantastic! And Diddy would disclaim it's not just because he's black That's not what it's about But when he says hey man the guy sure changed us Immediately in everyone's mind...I will say Fox News for sure but in everyone's mind is like oh He screwed the blacks No he screwed all of America That's true. And one thing you forgot that Obama had, he had the right amount of swag and swag is another word for cool and it's this other... It's this thing that you want to measure I mean like how do you say somebody's cool or not? No i can tell the example is uh Slow Jam on The Tonight Show only Obama can do that Right! Is that perfect example

48:45 Or I'll break out into Al Green mid-speech. That was pushing it for me, but okay. It was! But he can pull it off? Yeah. Okay, I'm going to spike you what he had. He had what Jerome didn't have from the last show. Alright...I gotcha! So did he continues all I mean this these next couple of days are still first 2016 and I lost all these man This is great. Well, of course Moe I gotta thank you man And so I'm so glad I met you and came into my life and there's all this stuff I know now and now I'm listening just like oh Where was I? Oh, I didn't hear it. I don't know what was going on All right that goes to show you the power media You only know what's presented which was presented before you that's right so

49:39 I want people to take this not only about Diddy, but a lot of black people took this journey with him. Obama was great in 08', we know he even had in 2016 had to say Obama did great things which we know is not true because Tavis Smiley came out and wrote a whole book about it when we covered it in previous shows so those are all talking points but as Diddy continues on 2016 He um, he starts to get more vocal and we can hear that on the Sam Roberts show In the next clip. I mean you want to know what? I want to know about We've been talking about Donald Trump a lot. Mmm. He's a fellow Successful businessman but now he's running for president Mm-hmm does he have the puffy vote

50:31 Nobody has my vote right now. No you actually stated that you think voting is a scam coming from voter die and all this stuff You do not know That's what they ran with not I really said it. I said that is not It Thought the deal was very simple. I vote for you, and you give me what I need You know so when I got it, you know so I was for voter died I'm out there like you went hard yeah young people young people People of color hmm. You know that's part of the process in but you know I just felt and still feel like um

51:13 You know, for putting Obama in there that we should have got more. Because we put him in there but I'm not you know it ain't no beef I'm not saying he did so many things is just...you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're saying What?! What did he do? Nothing! And this is where me and Diddy start to... Before you get into your beef with Diddy, Tavis, you mentioned Tavis Smiley. He wrote a whole book about it I would just like to point out that Tavis Smiley has been removed from the media landscape Oh he was removed in 08 But that's what i'm saying. Yeah yeah The guy has been removed

51:58 And Tavis Smiley at one time was one of the blackest men in America. The reason why I say that is when he was on BET, I think pre-the Viacom deal, he used to have a show that came on weeknights and man, he used to say something like really... for mainstream television radical things But when Viacom came in and brought up BET, he was one of the first to go. Along with all the quality content. Right but then he went to NPR and PBS and they took his ass down in 2017!

52:40 Yep, but that started I think in 08 when he went and drank the Obama Kool-Aid. Oh yeah! Yeah, I'm sure so that's again it's like at...I don't know if Diddy is supposed to be afraid of you or the Democrat Party but I'll hear what your takedown reveals Well no its not really a takedown But you got an issue He walks this line. It's very like you picked up on it people of color He'll say something about black people and then he has to throw in all these other demographics And then in this clip the guy said yeah, you called a voting a scam and he said oh That's what they put on me okay? I have the quote from him right but but this is the difference between Diddy and Kanye

53:28 Diddy has filters and you're hearing it. I can almost hear them clicking in place like you mentioned Kanye has no filter But if you're gonna have a filter always having engaged because when you don't have it engaged and you say I'm gonna read the clip to you I mean reading the quote to you he says see the thing You see the things that they tricky That's tricky about politics is there so much bullshit with it We started voted die, and from the community we're in were not with hearing too much of the bullshit. That's why we get disenfranchised, we're disconnected because nothing that they're saying actually relates to us so vote or die and getting out the vote those were laid out there so people could understand about the process We started Vote Or Die and the whole process was full of shit The whole shit was a scam

54:22 Oh, he said it himself. So it's like and then you say when somebody actually oh they put that on me Like you didn't say so I'm like this is When people do that? It's if you said it You said it or if you it of you'd set a you Say I was angry when I said that you know and I kind of changed but He's trying to make it seem like he didn't say that and that's where I start to get leery with all yeah, well It's hard though. You're saying he's walking the line but that's why he's diddy I mean, I know this no But if you can't be free we just say a hundred million dollars No, no, no moe. No, yes your free

55:11 You could your free man talking and freemen walking as a podcaster Can't be a billionaire It's very difficult. I would like to disagree with you on that cuz Kanye was just announced to be a billionaire Okay, so well we discussed what power structure behind him but I'm just saying that this back-and-forth is Game he plays I don't like it. Okay, just for my time right now is I'm with you okay? so uh Let's look let's continue to listen to Diddy on the Sam Roberts show So I was just talking about the voting thing. I can't keep on telling Somebody to do something If I don't understand that saying not devote I'm saying Just we really gotta have to be clear with our list of demands this time like

56:04 Maybe make it a little smaller, more realistic. It's maybe some...a little bit of education over here. Yeah it's like if I vote please but maybe not vote or die. It's not life and death anymore. It was life or death then and it still is now. It's just that we you got to figure out as the people how we win because at the end of the day, it's something that's just off about us when you get into the political process And you got to go and then every election comes, and you see more and more and more the same bullshit Right in and I'm a brand of like honesty so I gotta be honest. You know hey Hey, I know we voted dying We registered we see that we get somebody in office But there's this a glitching the matrix you're saying I was letting you know I'm not telling you not to not vote but before this next one I don't know if it's Trump or

57:00 Hillary whoever it is, but we need to have a meeting so there's no more glitches in the matrix We need a lot of lawyers around and witnesses because these guys be forgetting quickly Pet peeve A GLITCH! Shut up about the glitch Sorry just a little peeve But when he said they need to have lawyers around it seemed like he was promised something For the whole vote or die and all the political efforts he made. Oh, for sure! I mean those campaigns don't come out of nowhere like that with him at the helm no no no oh right there's no i should have been looking it up already who was behind that yeah so

57:41 He's been promised a lot of things and now he's disenchanted with the Democratic Party, but then he still... And I know people like this. They'll tell you oh yeah Joe Biden wrote the crime bill and they'll list off all these negative things but then they'll say well our life depends on it It's like what world are you living in? You just said all of these things and then you come back and do this weird return back into Expected my state that you're supposed to be in yeah, and that's the issue I have is okay. I'm not I'm gonna let him answer that I'm about to ask a question But he's gonna answer that so I caught up with a clip between Toray and Diddy on The Times Talk and just listen to Diddy's mind-state

58:29 You talk a lot about black excellence. What is black excellence and how is it different than white excellence or Asian excellence or anybody else? Yeah, there's a difference! There's a difference... The differences are that we haven't really forcefully tapped into our excellence You know, sometimes you could possess magic or superpowers and you're afraid of them. You're afraid to tap into them I'm in the Superman he ain't really want apply He was scared, you know And we have this magic about us that That we were able To be brought over here to be treated the way we've been treated and we still get up

59:13 We're loving our hearts now. Like shit could be crazy, pain is pain we get up with love in our hearts and we still have to deal with that pressure you know like It's fucked up. You hear it all the time, it sounds cliche but yeah you black you wake up damn some fucked-up shit could happen to me today no matter who you are and that's a hard way to live in fear and live like that What was the question? He got so wrapped up in the victimization mentality

59:55 Citizen change was the political service group founded by P Diddy Mary J Blige Mariah Carey and 50 Cent. That's some star power right there yeah didn't know that and apparently at the BET Awards He made vote or die and he turned it into Obama or die. I guess that was his phrase Okay, cool. It's all in the show notes everybody archived up mo facts calm now He said something then I want to address just just as a side. He says we wait How did he put it? He says pain is pain and stuff could get ugly

1:00:48 Let me explain. Let me give you some inside baseball and what he said because that a lot of people probably missed what he was saying Black people have went through so much in this country And yet it's still we had this positive pleasant disposition about ourself any other group of people will be plotting some kind of revenge or some kind of You don't have a militant radical physically violent group of black Americans. No, I mean like that you have other countries that were oppressed and then the money finally get their freedom in New York they still want to exact our revenge You don't have that here And that's what I'm just giving you a little insight on what he saying that way because he kind of I know exactly What he was saying but always wanted to get um I'm hearing ya To flesh out where he was saying that we wake up every day and we don't have that in our heart We don't have that

1:01:53 That you know with the get back, you know we got to get some get back so I just want to explain that to that point But it's just amazing how you have this person that lives a charm life Gets all wrapped up in the victimization mentality. Yeah that he even lost his train of thought yeah Now, let me juxtapose that to this other mind state that he has and what I call is the problem in a nutshell as he continues on to talk to Torrey. And you said, I wasn't allowing them to treat me like a black man and how do you do that? You have to be able to walk away

1:02:35 You know, there's a lot of cats out here that get a taste of the money. And when it comes time to doing that deal and really being in that ruthless negotiation they really can't stomach walking away I'm really crazy! I will walk away we could be at 43 million if i want 45 and im just deserving of that? and thats the rate you're gonna give me $45 million And I want to explain to you why. Because, I set the market value for my people not in civil rights... The only thing that has really changed for us and civil rights was hip-hop. Hip hop has been our only hope. Wow! A couple things he said there i wanna go backwards and we're gonna start at the end then go back to the beginning One this is the problem with Diddy saying what he said if hip hop can get loaded with this kind of message

1:03:41 Go around the world. That's a problem Yeah, that's a problem because they weaponize hip-hop to be a negative and that's why I'm very careful how do that show on hip hop? Because it's very is very Hip-hop is a very powerful vehicle. I don't understand why because this I think maybe cuz there's some music other people It's an untrained music. You mean when you think about other music? Genres where you had to be trained. Well, I body could pick it up when I first went to one of the first rap battles in Los Angeles in 1984 And I didn't know what the hell I was doing Because I was meeting somebody it was weird The whole thing was weird but and I was young too

1:04:31 And there was rap battles and I'd never seen it before, you know. It was literally the way it started out, slamming back and forth on each other. And I'm like this is CNN! This is black CNN right here! That's how I've always viewed it. Right? If they have the same power as CNN Then you could push a message. A very long one. Literally Grandmaster Flash Right, so if you load that up with tangibles, reparations getting rid of the victimization mentality walking away notice what he said in that clip now we're going to back up a little bit further and at the beginning of the clip He says You have to walk away

1:05:21 That's what he is saying right now and that is all we have been saying. If the deal is not what we want, you have to be able to walk away. If your real about the negotiation then you always have to be prepared to walk away And who is famous for that? Trump So now we start to see and I have an ISO from this clip if you like to play it. Yeah, hold on a second If I want 45 And I'm just deserving of that and that is the rate You're gonna give me

1:05:59 There you go Trump. Yeah, you can run with that one no kidding Is this to array neblet that guy yes what happened to him where'd he go? I don't know I don't know who we pissed off but he Disappears the pig he's like I see him whining on Twitter once in a while But yeah, it was weird He just kind of dis again just went away. I noticed diddy has started Before this statement, he had started making himself speaking for the people. And one of those topics he took on was recently with the coronavirus pandemic and he was talking about how it affected our communities

1:06:48 Uh, we talked about this and we, uh, we unpacked it and talked about preexisting conditions or whatever. But let's listen to him talk about the Corona virus. This is not a test. This is not a test. This is a real life of death state of emergency. I'm calling out to the African American community to give you some facts. We are in a life of death state of emergency One out of 10 Americans are black. One out of two of the Corona fatalities are black, we are in trouble my people. We have to come together. We have to communicate they're not going to give us any time on the news they're not gonna come up with solutions for us. We have to come up with our own solutions

1:07:38 Wow, I'm not sure his data is right But he's sounding the right alarm bell. Yeah, you sound all right and I'm like okay All right let me listen a little further than let me hear what Diddy plan is So tonight I put together an incredible panel Dr. Jess Big Sean Charles Blow Latoya Cantrell Al Sharpton This the mayor of Louisiana getting hit hardest My brother Meek Mill Ayanna Presley. Van Jones is gonna help me moderate, cause it's not my full-time job I like to call her AOC Okay? Aaron Petrou He's an economist he's gonna show us how to get to that bag Got a two trillion dollar stimulus package We want our fair share Royce the Five Nine Killer Mike Angela Rye YBN Cordae Camara Jones My brother Fat Joe

1:08:45 Reverend Al Sharpton, let's go. Tonight on Revolt, Revolt's YouTube you can watch from your phone You could watch if you're at home So look it as a mandatory family meeting that everybody must show up to Wow and now Were they all on well? They're all at the meeting all those people yes holy crap Wow okay, only interesting twist His panel, the reason why I rang my bell every time. I rang my bell that was a rapper or entertainer Yes What the hell do you have rappers and entertainers on a panel about a pandemic? Now I understand You had to bring people in with entertainment and then you had to educate them right? I understand that relationship Of course

1:09:36 But you say, okay I'm gonna have something y'all perform and then we'll have the serious people talk about serious topics. Well now did you go to the family meeting? Not at all! Do but do you think that like Killer Mike's not performing No, none of them were performed. They were all talking like I mean... I saw clips from it. They're just performing as you know the Hollywood type come on. AOC is the same. Oh my gosh! Well a lot of them. I could rate for your favorite. They're all my favorites. Angela Rye. But what i'm saying is this isn't the problem

1:10:22 Not like how it did, but this is the problem I have when you have people come out like this and they start talking. But then they put unserious panels together. I gotcha where are the top black doctors in America? How about Ben Carson that right He didn't have our Boole doctor on there. But one thing he did say was this term, all fair share. Yeah that's interesting. He said we got to get to the bag I love those terms. So all fair share let's figure out what that is

1:11:04 Paying attention to all my entrepreneurs, all my minority owned small businesses. All my independent contractors on myself employed hustlers or my churches check this out there has been billions of dollars in stimulus money made available for us but if we don't know where to go to fill out the forms and how to fill them out and who to send them too then we can get a piece of the pie Our fair share. Okay, last time we only got 2%. Now we need to get our fair share okay? So all minority owned businesses go to ourfairshare.com right now so we can help you through this process loveourfairshare.com Let's not play ourselves You gotta have this in by Friday or else all the money is gonna be gone I'm just being honest with you let's go

1:11:56 Well, aside from the calling all minorities. That could be anybody! Right but it's absolutely I mean even I've been helping people I know kind of navigate some of these waters who are very very small businesses and i think yeah absolutely that I'm looking at this ourfairshare.com Oh good so this is a complete educational site Yes, it's no money-making side. No! That's super, that's well done Once again though he starts off talking black and then he ends up saying minority which Well we have to take away his card Moe this has to stop No, no, no We have to be wary Wary and aware of when people do this bait n' switch It's like the yeah you start off talking black And then come back around with the people of color

1:12:55 minority business owner that could be a white woman, that could be a disabled white man. That could be non-binary... What is it? Non-binary gender anybody! I'm gonna let you trip over that. I'm not getting involved No, I'm just saying when you say minority It's very broad So I digress and just for the simple fact is he's talking about his fair share or our fair share. Let's talk about our fair share And we're gonna listen to this next clip of Diddy Talks dollars and cents with Ellen, and that'll lead us into our donation segment How much money do you have on you right now? No money You don't carry money on you no no carry money like this

1:18:50 Question from Mo. Here we go, Mo are you a Panthers fan? No Cowboys Really yes, huh If so that's either actually that was his second part of this question if the if not What's your NFL team and what would you grade their draft performance of the Dallas Cowboys? I don't know if you're asking about the Panthers or the Cowboys. I think they both did good in the draft. The Panthers are rebuilding right now because they're getting rid of Cam Newton, so...I think that they did pretty good." Okay! I wish i knew what you just said there. Okay okay now this is a trick question for Adam how do you pronounce these names? And of course I look at this and go Dylan, Dillon, Dylan, Dylan and Dylan

1:19:40 But that doesn't seem to be right Is it Dylan Dylan? Dylan, Dylan, Dylan and Dylan. Now where am I supposed to get this from what does this mean why does this not mean anything to me actually you know the funny thing is This goes too From Puffy's reality show he had called making the band Okay, and one of the characters on there and it's funny that he wrote this I mean This is running gagging we're talking about Diddy today. But He was wanted a cat one of the contestants on there His name was Dylan and he said he was atop how hottest rappers in the world Oh All right, I got your hint they spit hot fire I got you all right That's funny Connor

1:20:30 If possible, can I get a goat woosah? Yes! A goat woosah for me and Eliza or Elissa. For our sanity and health And maybe some for the Patriots too so we can get Trevor Lawrence next year Any connection between Trevor and Connor, I wonder? Thank you guys again for everything you do. This is truly the Lord's work. Truth is the antidote to suffering and your show was the only vaccine I want to be injected with With love and reverence your friend Connor P.S., I believe it's pronounced Dostoyevsky, yes. Yeah we both killed that one! We're good a lot but not good at that Russian stuff. There is Moussa for you Connor thank you very much Next associate executive producer Anonymous and anonymous

1:27:46 I learned this from Malcolm X and he has a famous clip on the fact of entertainers being leaders. Told you a little while ago these leaders that they call leaders, this included Lena Horne, this included Dick Gregory and this included comedians comics trumpet players baseball player Show me in the white community where a comedian is a white leader. Show me in the white community where our singer is a white leader, or our dancer or trumpet player is a white leader These aren't leaders these are puppets and clowns that have been set up over the black community by the white community and have been made celebrities And usually say exactly what they know that the white man wants to hear and it is an honor actually

1:28:33 that they endorsed Dr. Martin Luther King and were against the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, that's actually an honor I never heard that! That's a great clip And i'm sure he didn't have anything against Lena Horne No! How can you? Thats sacrilegious Right but why is it that they always send the entertainers to speak to our community And if I'm going to hold true to that sentiment, even though I like Diddy. I've always liked Diddy. You know what's interesting is that the same entertainers are being sent to the white community to convince them too. Yeah. Hello? I know! We know what's coming and we got to keep our eyes open. I know. Gotcha. When a serious people stop going out of their room

1:29:32 And the entertainers start coming in, then you know. I mean they're pushing an agenda now i'm not saying there's a chance that Diddy can't be politically awake and aware, and he wants to bring change. But it's certain things like I pointed out where he walks back his statements or the glaring missing of everything... And now I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this He never mentioned the word reparations! Hello? Well yes okay. If you're gonna go all out I mean like I said I'm using reparation as a

1:30:10 Yeah, the big ass. But he's serious already also I haven't heard him say tangibles either not at all He just says you got to give us something which that troubles me And I have another throwback clip from show 19 Once again, mr. Malcolm X from the legendary speech the ballot in a bullet The political philosophy of black nationalism only means that the black man should control the politics and the politicians in his own community. The time when white people can come in our community and get us to vote for them so that they can be our political leaders, and tell us what to do and what not to do is long gone.

1:31:02 By the same token, the time when that same white man knowing that your eyes are too far open can send another Negro into the community. Get you and me to support him so he can use him to lead us astray those days along gone. Yes. So this is why I move with caution when I hear people start to use verbiage that's used in certain circles. It's kind of like appropriation, like is that person appropriating it or are they really into the culture to where they're embracing it? So there's a difference. The Dvorak would call it milieu. Okay! Which is fancy French for the folks you hang out with

1:31:57 Right, so is... does Diddy have tangible speaking people in his ear? Or he understands like this is what's hot on the streets right now. Thank you that's well you mentioned it earlier So very possible but he's jammed okay I'm excited to find out This is why I warn against having leaders You know my theory may a lot of people may not because they may have not have listened all the way back to show 30 But I would like to introduce them to my theory of a school of fish How do schools of fish swim in harmony? And how do the tiny cells in your brain give rise to the complex thoughts, memories and consciousness that are you? Oddly enough, those questions have the same general answer. Emergence or the spontaneous creation of sophisticated behaviors and functions from large groups of simple elements

1:32:59 Like many animals, fish stick together in groups. But that's not just because they enjoy each other's company – it's a matter of survival. Schools of fish exhibit complex swarming behaviors that help them evade hungry predators while a lone fish is quickly singled out as easy prey. So which brilliant fish leader is the one in charge? Actually no one is and everyone is! So what does that mean? It means you're a commie. Just kidding, just kidding! No it doesn't. What it means is that you don't allow yourself to get caught up in the rapture of oh this... what's the guy? The Pied Piper

1:33:56 You know, it comes along with his pipe. I mean is flu he's plays it and then you get caught up at all did he talk about reparations? He never said that no Diddy's talking about tangibles No, he never said that but this is how it was received Yes And it's very dangerous when you don't press these people like if i'm not casting any aspersions against ditty I'm just saying I need to hear those words out of his mouth To believe it. Convince me that he's not appropriating these talking points I gotcha

1:34:34 Well, that would be pretty damn phony. Especially since he's kind of been saying the same thing for you know for well since 2004 but you're right He hasn't really punched through all the way yet Yeah, the whole TV network The Revolt! He had a revolt summit and this is something I didn't cover that went on because we've been doing to show We had a revolt summit at TI and Candace Owens and Killer Mike and rappers He invited tone talks to one but then he something happened with the invitation process, but which we know Yeah, yeah. We know what that means Right so they come with the invitation process You could easily gave a platform to these points that been discussed for over year But he hasn't mm-hmm So now it's like what are you? What's going on and I have to be that way

1:35:31 To finish off my thought process with the school of fish, let's just listen to the second part of that clip. While the school of fish is elegantly twisting turning and dodging sharks in what looks like deliberate coordination each individual fish is actually just following two basic rules that have nothing to do with the shark one stay close but not too close to your neighbor and Keep swimming. As individuals, the fish are focused on the minutiae of these local interactions. But if enough fish join the group something remarkable happens. The movement of individual fish is eclipsed by an entirely new entity—the school— which has its own unique set of behaviors

1:36:18 The school isn't controlled by any single fish. It simply emerges if you have enough fish following the right set of local rules Yes, and that's the port we're trying to get to I've had we enough fish Following the right rules and what is that raising your family breaking a victimization mentality spending your money in saying within your own communities holding people that say they represented us politically responsible. And if you're not responsible, or you don't have anything to offer then we won't exchange our vote for your political efforts. It's very simple! You know, you said something there that just kind of struck me about leaders and this is something that has bugged me for a while when I hear politicians talk about our leaders and our leaders in Congress and our leaders in Senate...and it bugs me

1:37:18 They're not. They're literally a representative, not a leader but they all want you to follow the leader and make it feel like you need a leader and the president is the leader of the free world... I agree with you that's not really the way to go! I like having someone trying to manage some of the mechanics of it but it has to come from the people. The situation we are in right now today We are in our homes because we want to ourselves. We're afraid or some people very afraid Because there's no actual law keeping us in so we have the capability To be and I'm talking about this is go This is of course bigger than just a community or a color of people but people do have the capability to school and

1:38:13 But we're schooling the wrong direction and rule number two here of Mo's School of Fish, you got to keep swimming. You gotta keep swimming! And that's basically taking a shit in the hole here this is not good so people have the capacity but for some reason where we're losing a little bit of the idea that you can do it ourselves neighbors family whatever group church synagogue, temple whatever it is mosque. Whatever your school of fish is and the thing is different schools of fish can coexist with each other because they're different types of fish which creates a ecosystem which if everybody's in the business of not staying to being close enough but not too close and not following a leader then we you know we can all be positive for the ecosystem down there

1:39:14 I know that's a far out like concept, but it's not communism either because i'm not calling for collectives. That's the reason why I said that we're not getting too close when you start getting too close is like now we have this shared audiology everybody has to be lockstep? No! We're just kind of moving...we're all swimming Now we might have to go in the same direction But you brought up this point of leader and I'm glad you did Because you made it that's an excellent point now. They give us people to follow Yeah, and this is a concept that started in our community And one of those leaders which I think she's more of a celebrity than a leader is one miss AOC and she did something very underhanded and reason why this Diddy associates with her

1:40:09 and he had her on his family meeting or whatever you wanted to call it, but she pulled this very underhanded trick of trying to hijack reparations. So the political conundrum is if we live in a country that's still 70% white which is a number I think shocks a lot of people but if you include white Hispanics that actually is that big who often vote similarly to non-Hispanic whites. You know, what as a political cost let's say of saying we're going to throw your hat in with a program like reparations? How much do you think those considerations should be made? Now that wasn't AOC was it?

1:40:54 No, she's being asked a question about reparations. I didn't say that clip quite as well as I could. She was being asked the question about reparations now Adam what would you think her answer would be to being so progressive and you know We should use the magic money machine known as modern monetary theory print up a trillion dollars and hand it to every ADOS we know! And that will be the way to do it She said something kind of like that. Well, you know it's a good question I think that one of the things we've seen from early polling actually is that I think that we should distance ourselves and start getting away from this idea

1:41:45 that we should only care about ourselves. Because when we really do start to assert and believe and understand, and see how our destinies are tied it doesn't... We kind of get away from this idea that only You know people of color care about other people of color and only white people care about other white people and so on There are a lot of systems that we have to dismantle, but also it does get into this interesting area where we are as a country about identity because like what

1:42:23 What does it mean to be black? Who is, you know who is black and who isn't especially as our country becomes more biracial and multi-racial. Same thing with being Latino same thing brings up all these questions of like passing and things like that But I do think it is important that we have to have substantive conversations about race beyond what is racist and what is not. And if someone says something racist, does that make them racist? We need to get away from talking... Well not that we have to get away from talking about racism It's important that we talk about racism but because we talk about racism so much, we actually aren't talking about race itself

1:43:06 Wow! Word salad. So what she almost said there was, well we need to have a podcast where people talk honestly about race that's the only takeaway for the rest of... What a bunch of bullcrap didn't answer the question? At all. No and she doesn't... And just what does it mean to be black Yes, with all the mixing of multiracials. But she has no problem to completely identify and separate by her tone and accent Latinos! Right you know she breaks out of her speech to I guess virtue signal hey i'm one of you...I found that offensive that she did that

1:43:56 One minute 39 seconds of no answer. You know, it's a talent! It is but I mean... It's called pulling a pence by the way I don't think she does it quite as good. He just asked a whole nother question about what do you eat for lunch, Pence? And you're like yeah, I really like that restaurant and he's like what? But with Pence they're like oh I liked that answer! And you're like what?! Well she's got room to grow Moe, she's got room to grow. That's a very slam dunk answer how you feel about Reparate. I think they deserve it but this is

1:44:36 They always want to say, you know the Republicans will never give you reparations. Well the party that depends on 90% of our vote doesn't seem like they're too thrilled about giving it to us either because she had a very simple question that she could have answered. She wants to print out X and saying tens of billions or trillions of dollars for the green new deal how about the new black? New black deal how about that? How about the old black deal oh well Right, they've never been paid off. But you know and the thing I kind of make a joke because if anything i'm way against money printing and but having...and of course I'd rather change as a human being than be called a hypocrite perhaps

1:45:26 The situation we're in with this money, and it's called modern monetary theory for anyone who is interested in looking it up. It is how we created these trillions of dollars for the stimulus and a lot of it going right into stocks on the market that's why you see the market going up but the money is not actually inflationary to the United States. It's this magic, it's an accounting trick but it seems to work and right now all money is free if you're a bank or if your country not if your Adam & Moe the interest rate is at zero so there are all these ways and a trillion dollars would actually be very easy.

1:46:23 Right. And it was like, oh man we need another two. All right no problem and there's gonna be another five! Oh they're gonna definitely double dip but I mean this is what Japan has been doing the problem with Japan it's called the Japanese debt trap the so Japan is fantastic it runs you know they just keep printing money it's very prosperous they're going to do the Olympics they'll postpone in the next year it's fantastic great place It has its drawbacks of course as every country does, but their problem is they're not... They're growing old and the situation of finances in the world today which will change and big changes on the horizon no doubt. If we can all hunker down and make some damn babies We could do very well for ourselves But it would be super easy And that maybe that's a part of this we'd have stimulus to give you money if you make babies but

1:47:20 But reparations, from a financial standpoint I see no barrier at this moment in time. And that's not lost on other people to see it? It's like oh you can just print out two trillion dollars in three weeks? No problem we can do and the trillion would be good number! You know what is really gross about it Even Mary Ann Williamson who was pro reparations couldn't bring herself to ask for a trillion dollars. Yeah, it had to be 500 And even Adolf didn't press her To say a tree I mean that will beat that would have been if I'm in having that car I'm like look you're gonna need something You know good you're gonna need a number did really hits yeah That means something but

1:48:07 Let's continue on. I wasn't the only one that caught up with AOC trying to hijack the reparations, well she poorly answered this is when she was asked about reparations but Now she tried to hijack it according to TD Hip Hop Media. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has made a very bold attempt to hijack the reparations conversation in order to include Brown in the conversation so that they can receive reparations for a tragedy that they did not go through now this is what AOC had to say according to The New York Post, that took these quotes off of her Twitter feed

1:48:45 COVID deaths are disproportionately spiking in black and brown communities, Ocasio-Cortez tweeted to her 6 million followers on Friday morning. Why? Because the chronic toll of redlining environmental racism wealth gap etc are underlying health conditions," the Bronx born lawmaker added. Inequality is a comorbidity and I quote COVID relief should be drafted with a lens of reparations, she wrote. Oh now you know what reparations is huh? You see when reparations is the talking point that only benefits the descendants of American slaves she doesn't know what black is anymore She doesn't know what that means but when she can find a way to crowbar her people into the mix so they can receive reparations Now she's all for it! Slam dunk there

1:49:37 Now one this is who did he's associated with so there was just something in there that that was said I want to catch quote Okay, Kovac relief should be drafted with a lens added inequality is a comorbidity. That's what I want Just just for my book Yeah, you know she's got great writers. I'll give her that don't give her that Very true right so that's not exactly the kind of but You know on a can see where if Diddy was putting together coalition? You want some crazy people on both sides But it sounded like he had a whole bunch of I heard yet Jayapal in there on the list I'm not a fan of hers either another nut job, but is this dead? He's

1:50:29 You're not aware of how AFC has been received in the black community. And we're just speaking, if you want to say... and the reason why one fact I left out was when he recorded this video with Naomi Campbell He had a shirt on that says African Okay, not Ados Not foundational black not native black but African. Yeah, so then you get the pan-african crowd Right cuz he didn't want to piss them off either they buy records So I'm feeling bad and I feel so good about it. I felt really excited in the beginning. Well, that's just my effect on you Adam, sir Paying attention that's what I'm getting ready for for your like Eminem to disappoint me

1:51:16 Well, he's already got political but that's another show for another day. So I had to venture on over to Boulayland aka the Roland Martin Show. Now that...that's just mean. What? You know make me listen to Roland Martin. Well we gotta get the Boulay perspective. Now is this his YouTube show? Yes. That's all the show he has! I know, we just don't bring it... He gets more play from our show than he does anywhere else Alright alright i'm ready for Roland Martin All right let's get into it We act as if the NAACP doesn't have 2 000 chapters

1:51:58 made up of regular ordinary people. We act as if the National Urban League don't have branches, they do! We act as if our civil rights organizations really aren't talking to anybody but they are and so part of this deal is we have this debate constantly The Black Agenda, The Black Agenda, The Black Agenda National Coalition on Black Civic Participation Black Women's Roundtable They got an agenda. They got an agenda, sororities fraternities black BYP 100 color of change they got an agenda I mean all these groups have agendas you have people who are who are gay, who trans church conservatives Who are sports entertainment media I can go to every... All that have agendas

1:53:02 And luckily, Roland Martin doesn't. I want to know what that agenda is because i didn't get the memo of the real agenda not for your independent groups or you know how this fraternity or sorority's going to benefit from a political relationship talking about overall the group How's the school? How's the School of Fish gonna benefit and there is no answer. Yeah yeah I heard a new name here BYP 100 He mentioned that. I had to look that up. Yeah, it's the Black Youth Project 100. Okay he said color change too

1:53:46 Oh, I didn't hear that. Okay the Black Youth Project its activities include community organizing voter mobilization and other social justice camp yeah oh yeah other social justice campaigns focused on black feminist and queer issues okay gotcha And it's amazing that Roland and this is why Roland- Let me remind you Black Youth Project also for feminists and queers This is why Roland never makes it. You see Karen Hunter, she adapted. She sees the... We've heard her how much of a homer she was for the Democratic Party. Yeah, she'll still vote for Biden but you'll butt-slam him! Right so but she understands that the landscape is shifting and she's shifted her content appropriately to start having different conversations yes this guy Roland Martin

1:54:48 He's gonna stay I mean he like said NAACP we've talked about them the origin of it Yeah, now. I'm not saying that someone grandma that works in the local NAACP and no is No up to nefarious things but the organization itself was birthed out of questionable if not destructive Terms for black people with how it was created by Joel spin garn if you won't look him up, which was a spy So take that yeah And then we talked about the bullet of fraternity to sororities. We've addressed all these people that he listed That's why I want him to list them out but

1:55:35 Want you listen to this next clip because I took it as a veiled threat. Let's see how you hear it You cannot make threats unless you have an organized entity that stands behind you if you make A threat and there's nobody behind you they will laugh at you Because they know there's no one behind you To put it simply You ever seen somebody walk up to somebody else talking all kind of smack because they think their boys are behind them? And then they say, me and my... Now everything changes because they now realize ain't no back. So first of all that's very uh.. Was this a threat towards Diddy

1:56:37 That's how I took it. Because that's how, that's how I heard it and he's kind of... And also heard as a kind of boast in the way you know little flex going uh You know like kinda like yeah I got people behind me Like he's got the whole Boulet squad but its yeah It sounded like a threat to me for sure and by the way I'm behind Diddy! I'm right here Right and the jury is still out I haven't made it But we have to be careful Very careful of letting somebody of that magnitude come in and hijack the narrative. Or whatever may happen, we don't know. He could be hijacked For whatever purpose now he might have his own personal purposes or he might have real legitimate purposes but that goes counter to uh... of the school-o'-fish narrative that I like to follow Now we had to venture over since were doing rounds on the media

1:57:38 to the breakfast club. black people. You know what I'm saying? I'm not voting for individuals and to me, the concept is simple it's when you do business when you do deals, you go into negotiate the terms of what you want that's how we need to start treating Democrats if not black people will be voting out a fear for the rest of their lives and if you're being honest with yourself conditions of black people have been the same in America for decades regardless of who the president is and we will not make any real systemic change in our communities until we change our approach to politics. I don't think it's too much to ask of a candidate

1:58:23 Like Joe Biden who owes his political life to black people, then meet some demands for black people. Number one you want to know what those demands are? And this is where Diddy messed up because he didn't say what he wanted. So to be a hostage or hold something hostage, You have to have the goods yeah. Gotta have they have the good so uh uh Charlamagne's gonna tell us what he would ask for now Adam, what do you think Charlemagne will ask for? Charlemagne who is very well versed in the venture world. He hangs out with bankers and Wall Street types of people I think that Charlemagne the God being true to his biblical nomenclature Will indeed evoke the magical monetary theory and have 1 trillion dollars printed up for reparations

1:59:19 Let's see what he asks for. one of these Black agendas and make it his own. I've been talking to y'all about Black Futures Lab, Black Agenda which urges elected officials in government to make black people powerful through policy in the economy and our democracy our families our society our communities and the legal system Joe Biden can take things from that. He can take things from Bloomberg's economic black agenda, like wanting to invest $70 billion in low income neighborhoods throughout the country and crease the number of black homeowners and doubling the number of African-American small businesses if he's elected president, you can adopt all those things to him and he should because he's the vice president to the first black president. So what a week ask we, that's all your want? This is who we have in the room

2:00:26 We need you to rehash some of the old, the other candidates' ideas and give us a black female. Have you heard... Is it Curtis Blow? Hold on. It's not really suitable for air but I do want you to- What was that guys name? It's called The First Black President. Was it Blowfly? Have you ever heard this song? I think you played it for... Was it the first show, maybe? I may have played it for you but he goes through this list of what he is promising to the black voters. And again, it's not appropriate for air, I'll put in the show notes But its very interesting how the idea of really asking something for black Americans has been there and this blowfly, that was 1981

2:01:29 Just a side note, just to decide. But at least the awareness of hey we need to ask for some real stuff and then Charlemagne like well he's already asking for stuff that's already promised Biden already said I'll give you a black female VP but why female? Because it's virtue signals dumb shit That's my point. Of course, it's stupid! You've asked for... Now this is why these people I have to call them out because now you're saying oh we need a black female vice president and a black female Supreme Court justice with a limp well why can't one of them be a black man? No no no no Why can't both of them be a black man?! And that's a huge mistake on Charlamagne's part for even saying that way

2:02:23 Well, if you're carrying the water for the COVID that generates his power base. The COVID! I know you're serious. I say it with all seriousness. That's a weird ask, not to say okay we need to have a black president or vice-president in the black Supreme Court. No! Black woman and I said this on maybe the second show you asked me what why are they going after black women? And i said ego yeah This is an ego play

2:03:06 And that's how low they, and I'll say this to black women. That's how low they think of you! They give you two tokens no change, no better schools, no better nutrition all the things we talked about in 35 episodes that could benefit black people reparations tax-free status and none of this We're gonna give you two representatives that are not going to really... They're gonna do the will of the party and you should be happy It's not a great deal at all. Well, there is a little silver lining to this cloud because I think the people pushing the ideas that I subscribe to and a lot of other people that subscribe too that have made us go from Russian bots on the internet till you have one of the biggest music moguls in music history kind of sounding like it is starting to bleed over into politics

2:04:10 That one being mr. Vernon Jones Hello America, this is state representative Vernon Jones from the great state of Georgia You know the Democratic Party has demonstrated that they don't give a damn about black people Yes I said it They don't give a damn about black people if you look over the past several years their number one concern has been illegal immigrants what they've done is they've completely ignored and and left behind the most loyal and dedicated block of voters, the black vote. Now you know it I know it too as a matter of fact if you don't believe me ask Diddy the rapper he just recently called out the democratic party and Joe Biden and he said no more free votes no more taking us for granted you have to earn our votes yes now I saw this of course um this did hit all uh all colors of twitter

2:05:06 The only thing I'll say is our good brother here is Kappa. Of course! Oh no, oh no... I'm sorry but I shouldn't have been surprised. No we're way off from not having Boulet. But what I was saying you'd have Boulet even referring to Diddy Yeah that's true Now you have a person that people can identify with an idea. The good part of that is as long as he doesn't start owning it and reshaping it, but if he wants to use his platform to push in idea, that's very dangerous because you load that bad boy up in some hip hop. You start having

2:06:04 People my kids age start thinking differently and I know I usually end the show on a joke But that was the last clip, but I want to make people quite clear where I'm coming from on this. This is either It's great in both ways one if the Democrats feel they have to get one of their top people To start mimicking what the people are saying That shows real power Yes If our ideas are actually reshaping the people's minds at the top, that shows real power. So either way we're in good shape. You can't eat the whole damn school! No no... Excuse me I'm also curious and got to pay close attention to Diddy see what his next moves are?

2:06:55 He's definitely he's definitely on my radar. Yeah, and I will say this can't get a little theorem Please don't hear me please airmen yes, so I'd have to roll that out very quick it was in the box here you go Yes Everyone on this note right here For all the ankle bracelets Say what? Could this be a cover up for all the ankle bracelets? And I'll go into that on another show, but there's some weird stuff going on in Hollyweird. Okay, we're gonna have to leave you with that Moe! You're leaving me hanging cliffhanger i like it though

2:07:41 And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And that's right! And we will reveal ourselves on the next episode Remember to support this show Go to moefacts.com You can go directly to the page at m-o-e-f-u-n-d-m-e dot com Talk to you next week Mo Alright see ya later Adam Alright everybody take care thanks again bye bye I tried, I tried, I tried

2:09:02 In every way I do To make you see how much i love you Ooh, I thought you understood Oh, you gotta make me see What does win your love for me or give it to you? I'm so high