Thursday, 11 November 2021

70: Four Freedoms

A historic legal showdown over federal mandates and corporate ESG scores reveals a modern echo of the Vietnam-era draft and the erosion of American bodily autonomy.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 4h 5m listen | 67 chapters
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About this episode

The Biden administration’s OSHA vaccine mandate for private employers faces a historic legal blockade as the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals halts the order, citing grave constitutional concerns. Senator Mike Braun and Governor Tate Reeves lead a coalition of forty GOP senators and state executives challenging the federal government's authority to coerce medical compliance. This clash between executive overreach and individual liberty mirrors the 1940 Selective Service Act, marking a pivotal moment in the American struggle for bodily sanctity.

Corporate entities like BlackRock and Pfizer increasingly influence public policy through ESG scores and subscription-style medication models, while figures like Dr. Anthony Fauci and Scott Gottlieb defend the necessity of mandates. The logistics of the global supply chain suffer as Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg manages a 90-day port sprint that threatens to break the Christmas retail season. Meanwhile, high-profile athletes including Kyrie Irving, Aaron Rodgers, and Floyd Mayweather emerge as modern dissenters, drawing direct parallels to Muhammad Ali’s 1967 refusal of the Vietnam War draft and his subsequent legal battle with the Supreme Court.

Adam Curry and Mo Facts deconstruct the "asymptomatic spread" narrative and the psychological impact of the "booster number" on the American workforce. The episode highlights the irony of strict COVID protocols at the tragic Travis Scott Astroworld concert and explores the "Papa Bear" response of fathers facing economic exclusion. From the 1905 Jacobson ruling to the Great Reset theory, the discussion frames the current mandate era as a fundamental test of FDR’s Four Freedoms.


CHAPTER 01 / 67 Discussion

Mo Facts Episode 70 Introduction and Lost Tapes Interactive Newsletter

Adam Curry and Mo Facts open episode 70 of the podcast from the Texas Hill Country. They discuss the "Lost Tapes" interactive newsletter and live sessions held on alternating Wednesdays on their YouTube channel. Mo mentions a recent deep dive into Magic Johnson's history as an example of the content available to subscribers.

adam curry· mo facts· texas hill country· lost tapes· youtube· magic johnson

00:00 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for November 11th, 2021. This is episode number 70 it's gonna be a doozy! I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. Mo Facts How you doing Adam? I am doing good Moe, how about yourself? We'll see by the end of this show. By the way thank you for choosing this track! I love this, it's so good One of the greatest beats ever in hip hop history And i remember it, I was around when this was happening That was outside Unitell video It's crazy on the street shooting videos and one of their best videos Yeah definitely

00:59 Well, how's everything going? Yeah. Everything's been going real well man I saw you had you did your live on last Wednesday How'd that go everything cool mm-hmm? Everything went great lost tapes if people don't know the alternate Wednesdays when a show doesn't drop come on by the YouTube channel and uh You can find us at 8 o'clock on Wednesdays do to Lost Tape and that's the interactive newsletter for the show here. Yeah, and it's definitely something you want to check out if you want to dive even deeper than the show goes! I tuned in and you were doing a whole Magic Johnson thing...I'm like okay this is deeper than we even went on Magic Johnson! Yes yes like okay okay the perspective was great so i know today's going to be a fun show are we ready to whip her around?

CHAPTER 02 / 67 Discussion

Personal Choice and Redefining the Vaccine Mandate Conversation

Mo Facts declares his personal decision to refuse the COVID-19 vaccine and discusses the ramifications of that choice. He argues for redefining the public debate from "pro-vax vs. anti-vax" to "pro-choice vs. anti-choice." The discussion emphasizes that many vaccinated individuals support the right of others to choose, contrasting this with the divisive media narrative.

vaccine mandates· pro-choice· anti-vax· personal liberty· media narrative

01:49 Yeah, please. Oh yeah baby, this is why it's a big one. This is why its'a big one! Alright...this is uh.. What are we doing? Vaccine mandates? The mandate business? Yes We're going to talk about the mandates Uh what's going on How it's impacting people Including myself Gingerbread Moe Wait a minute I don't know this gingerbread- What's the gingerbread part about? I don't know what this is Like the gingerbread man You run and you dip and duck and dive Right, gingerbread man might get eaten

02:36 He might it looks It's the jury still out literally so um we got to talk about it mandates I know a lot of people. I've I can't remember what show it was But I've said previously on a couple occasions now, I'm not taking the shot It's my personal decision and as we see this has ramifications for having a personal decision So what? I want to go do today is Talk about What's going on in the news? Why I think we, when i say we people that are refusing from taking a shot. I don't like that term anti-vaxxer because it is not true. No! I like to say I am no ready to accept the vaccine into my life. I like that but let me put up front what we need to do is redefine the conversation

03:33 from pro-vax, anti-vax to pro choice, anti choice. Because you have a lot of people that have taken the vaccine that are supportive of people that don't want to take the vaccine. I don't want them to divide people on whether you took shot or not it's whether you think a person has a choice to take the shot or not. Which is really what we're seeing a lot of now with many of the walkouts and protests within corporations, it's not just people who don't want this vaccine is people who support their free right to choice who may have been vaxxed already? Well there are couple different things in there I will talk about as it goes along but its my choice today might be your choice tomorrow but when I'm liking things like you said I see people sticking together

CHAPTER 03 / 67 Discussion

OSHA Vaccine Mandate for Private Employers and Dr. Anthony Fauci

The Biden administration released OSHA rules requiring companies with 100 or more employees to ensure their workforce is fully vaccinated by January 4th or implement weekly testing. Dr. Anthony Fauci testified on Capitol Hill, stating that "mandates work" based on high compliance rates at United Airlines and the Houston Medical Association. The hosts critique Fauci's phrasing, suggesting that "mandates work" refers to the effectiveness of coercion rather than public health outcomes.

osha· biden administration· anthony fauci· united airlines· vaccine mandates

04:25 on this topic and not be divided by the media narrative. So that's what we're gonna get into is the media narrative going on, and the best way to do that is getting to clip number two. This is vaccine mandate battle heats up Today, the Biden administration put out new details on the vaccine mandate for private employers. Under the new rules released by OSHA, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration companies with 100 or more employees will have to ensure their workforce is fully vaccinated by January 4th Unvaccinated workers who opt out of the requirement will have to get tested every single week and wear a mask in the workplace. The White House says this mandate will cover 84 million workers nationwide today, the nation's top health experts testified on the Hill about the importance of taking this step. Here's how Dr Anthony Fauci explained it

05:19 Let me just explain very briefly. We know that vaccines absolutely save lives and we know that mandates work If you look at, for example the percentage of people in United Airlines or in the Houston Medical Association Or another organizations that have mandated it works 99 plus percent for example with United Airlines So if you take the fact that mandates work and vaccines absolutely save lives The answer to your question is yes. It does save lives It seems like sound logic, right? Yeah. Right! Uh-huh So this term mandates work... yeah

06:04 You mean if forcing people works? Yeah, I guess. If you force them enough... When you hear that statement what are you hearing and I don't want to lead the witness. Yeah when i hear mandates work that means whatever horrible thing we came up with which threatened all kinds of stuff for people individually and as groups Works, yeah. If the government puts the boot on your face and says you won't be able to eat unless you take this it works That's what I hear Right but what a lot of people here is mandates works mean is actually helping the COVID situation Oh okay Yeah, I didn't hear that obviously But if you just listen in passing like mandates work

06:51 You're thinking, well okay they must be helping the COVID situation and that's not what Fauci is saying. Right and that's backed up of course by all kinds of jimokes around government saying well you know the inflation won't end until everyone's vaccinated it's like COVID won't end until the whole world is vaccinated so sure yeah I can see how people are very confused right because if you say mandates work What he's actually saying is firing people can get you to 100% vaccinated for your job or your in-place employment. That's what he said, that's why I said 99.9%. 99.9% means what? That means okay we only have one tenth of a percent of people that were allowed... It's the same 99% that are gonna be healthy they will never have a problem with COVID but okay I digress. They flipped it just flipped the script

CHAPTER 05 / 67 Discussion

Quality Engineering Standards and the Travis Scott Astroworld Incident

A discussion on professional standards notes that quality engineers do not ship experimental products to customers, drawing a parallel to the rapid rollout of vaccines. The conversation shifts to the recent Travis Scott concert in Houston where multiple deaths occurred. The hosts point out the irony of strict COVID testing requirements for entry into an event where physical safety was not maintained.

quality engineering· experimental product· travis scott· astroworld· houston

10:22 You would think that people would not have with putting a experimental product, let's just call it that into their body. The reason why I say that is I am a quality engineer. That's my job or was or is...I don't know but that's my profession is quality engineering in that we don't send the experimental product to customers. That's just a no-go. No, absolutely not well and I'll just say that i have my opinion you know based on the mass formation concept...I'm starting to humanize everybody in this or almost everybody because this guy clearly is under the same

11:17 hypnosis as the rest of the 30% of the world who are just all in and just you know even if in black-and-white under the summary of the Congressional Review Act it says, this is really before a rule can take effect an agency has to submit a report to each House of Congress and the Comptroller General you know to explain exactly what the rule is. They didn't do that so now for him to say this is nuts, that's because his psyche is in oh this is still an emergency and people are dying on the streets or they saw it on TikTok and I'm the hero and all these different complexes come into play. And what's crazy is that we see life going on

11:57 for people going to concerts, as we've seen down in Houston. People going to football and basketball games I think... Who's afraid of COVID when Travis Scott will kill you free? You know easy! But the only thing, and I don't want to get too far into that conversation about it. It does matter because the only stipulation was that you had to be tested to get into the concert... ...To be pressed against other people! Just the optics of it is just crazy. Well, Texas has an anti-mandate order so that's why And who knows? That hasn't been played yet but they probably should give that a go Oh well

CHAPTER 06 / 67 Discussion

Asymptomatic Spread Claims and the Erosion of American Liberty

The hosts argue that the concept of "asymptomatic spread" is an unproven premise used to justify universal mandates. They compare current policies to historical tuberculosis quarantines, which only applied to the symptomatic sick. High-profile athletes like Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving are cited as individuals resisting the pressure to comply with a narrative they find illogical.

asymptomatic spread· aaron rodgers· kyrie irving· boosters· quarantine

12:39 Super spreader event super spreader of death, but they didn't call it that no I did not Big record labels and they don't want to piss off the superstars because if this is a very fragile Network they're holding together I think the celebrities are starting to see, we see with Aaron Rodgers as we see other stars. They're kind of looking both ways to see which way you know which way the people are going and i think that people just ahead of the curve start to say well I understand you keeping people in their house like this Republican senator was okay with keeping a lot of people up they had tuberculosis sure didn't want to get treated

13:26 reasonable to say, okay you're sick. Why don't you quarantine yourself? And if we don't want a quarantine yourself then we have to do something about it right that's reasonable to the general public to say okay but to say okay We're gonna fire people if they don't want to take a shot and other thing is looming I'm just going put out there right now There's a lot of people that took the first set of shots that are worried about the boosters They're seeing how it's gonna go to say and every year, every year, every six months is going to be I think you know. I mean just by their own documentation yeah It's just that hey you know so it's like I say to everybody they say what's your number? Well start to think now what's your number? Yeah

14:22 I need to preface this with one important thing that we all must remember and i have to remind myself every single day. The original sin, the big lie of this COVID thing was asymptomatic spread and that lie which is a lie it's not proven its never happened before that is exactly why the example of tuberculosis is the correct example because you need to keep sick people home, not people you think are sick or not people who have had some kind of polymer chain reaction result that indicates that they may be sick even though they don't have symptoms. You're not sick without the symptoms and that's a lie when they say you can spread that not being symptomatic and that is the genesis of this... YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE VACCINE TO PROTECT ME!

15:15 Which is not how vaccines have ever worked. And I'm taking the vaccine, you have to protect me from... Yes and of course we see it's plain as day like okay that's dumb that makes no sense we both have to take the vaccine to protect each other because it doesn't protect you but when we see the fallacy People who are all in, are just going to be all in and you can't convince them we shouldn't have to. And it's the 40% of people who... ...who are just going along with the program they're the ones so that's your Aaron Rodgers that's your... Kyrie Exactly! That's these guys they're part of the forty percent They're not guys who just walk along with the masses and as you know from school days there's not many people who don't walk along with the masses or eventually break away

16:07 But it's a lie. The whole thing is based on a lie, yeah totally It's a lot of people that are pretending to say oh I'm okay with you know the vaccine and I'm okay with the mandates that kind of thing but when it gets to their doorstep That's when things get real And that's why I want people start thinking about this what is your... Look I am pro-choice if you wanna take 10 jabs knock yourself out that's your choice But the same time you can't make people take something they don't want to take and then not in America Yeah, I mean well That's what we would think but maybe we're not in America anymore And if that's the case tell me that it's same. Just just let me know that as well, but

CHAPTER 07 / 67 Discussion

President Bolsonaro Human Rights Charges and the International Criminal Court

President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil faces accusations of crimes against humanity at the International Criminal Court (ICC) regarding his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. The hosts discuss the relevance of the ICC, noting that the United States does not recognize its jurisdiction. They compare the calls for Bolsonaro's prosecution to domestic rhetoric regarding the accountability of American lawmakers and governors.

jair bolsonaro· brazil· international criminal court· the hague· crimes against humanity

16:50 I have a lot here. Um, I think we stopped at three that's going to get in the clip for you know All I keep thinking about is and I wrote an op-ed about this that president bolsonaro of brazil is being held on Human rights violations and criminal negligence It's the president of brazil because of policies that resulted in excess deaths from covid And my question was why aren't we holding out? lawmakers and especially governors who control state policies up for the same level of accountability. It is so preposterous that we have grown-up legislators either suing the federal government or demanding that we not have mandates, and so on it is so contrary, Zerlina to science and what needs to be done to save lives you know we have three quarters a million Americans now who've died

17:47 of COVID and at least 80% of those were avoidable deaths if we had been vaccinated, we wouldn't be in this very tragic situation that we're now in. I think when you think about the avoidable deaths, that's when I get very upset because you know, when we didn't have a vaccine. You know that's one thing but once we had the vaccine, the politicization of vaccines has cost lives um but i'm glad to see you know there is now evidence of vaccine mandates working. You see- you heard Dr Fauci there elaborate on what he said there why do they work like? What's the science to back that up

18:28 You heard that, right? They work. That's funny. They get rid of the sick... they take care of the diseased people! It's a good catch Moe because I've heard it and I always just interpret exactly as the way he means it but I can see it's really a tricky little thing he has done there He has done a good job or Fauci Meister So there is couple points I want to point out One being we need to lock up politicians And then to the unavoidable deaths. I want to put those aside and talk about them, but you go ahead and...I want to hear what you heard from the clip first Oh well i heard uh about Brazil's president Bolsonaro You know crimes against humanity Well I-I know what this is They um...uh they've brought a case in the International Criminal Court The ICC in The Hague over his handling

19:24 and in that they say, you know they accused him of serious and deadly failures. The thing is the International Criminal Court...the United States does not even recognize this! This is a marketing court at this point so it's like all right fine but it sounds great when you say it oh he's being he's in international criminal court for crimes against humanity Well, there's been a lot of people that have been summoned and they just don't go. George Bush would be one he's also sought by the inter- yeah it's true! Yeah so it's war criminal but no so you know some that's kind of a red herring But to throw that out there we need to start locking up politicians Oh the message is clear We have to see who this totalitarianism here I mean the extent their goal too because

CHAPTER 08 / 67 Discussion

Religious Doctrine and the Concept of Avoidable Deaths

The discussion explores the theological perspective that a person's time of death is predetermined by God, rendering the concept of "avoidable deaths" irrelevant to certain believers. This doctrine conflicts with public health messaging that emphasizes vaccination as a means to save lives. The hosts argue that the lack of respect for these fundamental religious beliefs is a primary driver of societal division.

religious belief· predestination· bible· avoidable deaths· personal faith

20:14 I'm like this, if you have such a great product sell me on the product. Show me the numbers show me how it's going to help my life if it makes sense I'll make the purchase. I am very practical person in that way but the fact when we had go locking up politicians calling people dumb ignorant those kind of things and then The point I want to address on is this unavoidable death. Yeah, and I think we really have to get into this because a lot of people that don't want to take the shot that are believers believe that your time is your time yeah sure I could be sitting in a room a padded room

20:56 And when it's my time to go, I'm gonna go. Well so that means that believers could also if they can get past all the other potential issues of what's in the vaccine or what it was tested with That they would have enough faith to say yeah It's my time is my time will take it? It could be a kick up both ways you see it cut both ways but if you believe Okay So they say take the take the jab and it will prevent you from possibly dying. That's what they say here, 80% of the 750 thousand people were avoidable in my book 0% of those deaths were avoidable because everybody that died is meant to die I gotcha

21:37 It doesn't work with us. That's a very fundamental belief and I completely understand where you're coming from and what you're saying, and I also simultaneously completely understand why people be like that's not logical that makes no sense and they just never be able to tell them otherwise Well it's doctrine. And when i mean by doctrine in the Bible says your days are numbered upon this earth If tomorrow's my day to go, whether I'm jabbed or unjabbed. I'm gonna go." And so taking in all these factors people are making decisions but the fact that people don't respect that is the problem

22:22 What I'm saying is to the other side, to say what you're saying doesn't resonate. Right? That doesn't you throwing that unavoidable death thing out there it doesn't resonate with me interesting point okay got it yeah of course yeah so when's my time to go it was my time to go and as you said you're trying to humanize everybody I'm trying to humanize everybody as well because what really scares me is stop the vaccine It's this ramped up divisive binary situation they're putting people in and it only takes a spark to ignite this. That's what troubles me more than the vaccine or anything like that we've, and I say we Americans and humans have killed each other over far less than this yeah yes i'm of the mindset that kinetic

CHAPTER 09 / 67 Discussion

Postal Worker Mandate Confusion and the History of Going Postal

Initial reports suggested United States Postal Service employees were exempt from federal vaccine mandates, but the White House clarified they fall under OSHA rules. The hosts discuss the origin of the term "going postal," tracing it back to the 1980s during the Reagan administration when overworked postal employees committed acts of workplace violence. They express concern that current mandates and workplace stress could trigger similar incidents.

usps· osha· going postal· ronald reagan· workplace violence

23:18 war, civil war is much less likely in today's day and age of course. They can always be...and we've seen in the past two years there's definitely violence it's definitely possible It just seems that the people who are all in, are all in and are quite lethargic. And unless they got a specific order kind of like Rosebud level I don't think anything will happen but so that's what I'm afraid of is you've got 30% Of the world or just country the United States You've got them all in there captured and uh... What do you say? Which yeah it definitely

23:59 dangerous but there's also a lot of pushback in that 40% in the middle is in play. And when I say, I don't think we're gonna get into you know a civil war where we're shooting our neighbors and that kind of thing But when you get to the point where like those people just won't listen so they need to be well screw that when you get To the point where your colleague okay? Maybe he's your manager at work. He's telling you you can go home, and you get no you're you know basically we'll give you some time to think about it and without pay until you're ready otherwise We're just gonna Let you go or just continue not paying you good luck. I mean that That's violence. I mean, you know a quote-unquote That's really evil the stuff that you're making people do to each other in workplaces Which are just communities and that's my point and one once you get that ball rolling You get people will you you've confined me to life of poverty? Yeah worse

24:58 to start stealing, start taking, you know thinking in that manner. So... Or workplace shootings Moe! You predicted it will come I see it happening man. I was gonna put that in this show and since you brought it up I'm gonna bring it up What's the one group of people that was supposedly exempt from the federal government? The post office Going postal The reasons given were not that of course, but I like it. Yes we didn't want those guys to go quote-unquote... yeah that's what used to be called going postal there was just a time when it was just one... I wonder if uh must be there must be a Wikipedia entry for that because that was the thing in the 80s I would say it was when it was really bad

25:52 Right, that's what we had to give perspective to people that wasn't around in that time. I think it was 80s even into the 90s because I mean I was a teenager when I remember this thing happening but going postal that was like post workers were on a tear of coming in and taking people out. I'll revisit that point, I didn't want to put it in this show just yet but going... And as we both think that the postal workers are exempt right? By the way this started during Reagan

26:30 There was something about Reagan. And what was their reasoning? I looked into it, and i can tell you the reason. Underpaid and overworked! That would be a reason. So if you're getting rid of a whole bunch of people and the people that stay behind are the ones you have in that population... People who were reluctant to take the vaccine but took the vaccine and then you're overworking them in a stressful environment just by the sheer odds of it Yeah. So I just want to lay that out and when i heard it, he's exempting the postal workers? The first thing that popped in my head was going postal! We don't want to piss these people off! That's the first thing I thought too they had a different reason...I can't remember exactly what it was but let me enlighten people they are not exempt. That's what I thought yeah

27:26 Because they're exempt under his federal worker mandate, but they're covered under the OSHA mandate. Yes See, that's the thing we have to watch for. The article says White House official clarifies whether postal workers are exempt from vaccine mandate and it goes on to say the United States personal worker employees receive COVID-19 vaccines under rules issued by OSHA and not the rules for federal government multiple outlets reported Thursday so they're not exempt? No

CHAPTER 10 / 67 Discussion

Natural Immunity Superiority and the Case of Joe Katz

Using a hypothetical worker named "Joe Katz," the hosts question the logic of firing productive remote employees who refuse vaccination. They reference a legal case involving a George Mason University professor who argues that his natural immunity from a prior COVID-19 infection is superior to vaccine-induced immunity. The discussion highlights that CDC and FDA data often acknowledge the strength of natural antibodies, yet mandates rarely provide exemptions for them.

natural immunity· cdc· fda· george mason university· remote work

28:06 This is a huge problem and I think there's a plan here. And I'll get more into that later, but we stopped at clip number four. Let's go ahead and get to number five. Well they're working because people want to go to work, they want to go to events, they wanna eat inside restaurants... They wanna keep their jobs basically! The more we can say you can't come to work here Because the federal government's outlaws it if you work for a company with more than 100 people You will not be able to come to work unless you get vaccinated And some of them some companies will have an option of allowing people that get tested once a week But the 17 million health care workers don't even have that often nor should they? you've got to get vaccinated period and I think

28:55 I just think this is something that we're gonna need to enforce and when we do enforce it, will finally get to the vaccination levels that will help protect at least some of the spread of this really vicious lethal COVID-19 virus. Yeah there it is conflated nicely yeah nice nicely conflated Let me give you a hypothetical about a guy named Joe Katz, maybe. Um... Joe Katz has been working from home since the beginning of the pandemic Joe Katz. Job 100%. It took me a second, I'm sorry. Yes okay let's yeah tell me about this Joe Katz dude Let's talk about Joe just Joe but it's hypothetical Yeah i got you all right so Joe has been working from home since the beginning of the pandemic thriving his job allows him to work one percent from home

29:56 Joe doesn't want to get the vaccine. Maybe Joe even had COVID, who knows? So he even has antibodies. He's not posing any risk to anybody but let's fire Joe. That sound like a good idea to you! I'm presuming that Joe was very productive during the work at home period and perhaps even more productive. And no, it makes zero sense to me in fact i'd consider having Joe continue working at home quite honestly. That's my point why would you fire Joe? Because we oughta take these in pockets okay there is a case going on right out here with an attorney out of George Mason he's a professor

30:40 Saying he would have took the vaccine if it was available to him, but he caught COVID. He beat COVID now why does he have to take the vaccine? So he's going from an angle of I had it already why do I need a vaccine? Well and let's just stop there for one second This is the second most egregious part outside of what we discussed earlier with asymptomatic spread from purely medical perspective, if you really want to do the work and you go in and look at all the different studies that have been done from reputable sources including CDC FDA NIH and you name it NHS in the UK

31:24 immunity from a natural and quote-unquote natural infection is superior. And even if it wasn't superior, it's at least on par so there should be no reason to take a vaccination for the same issue to achieve the same unless there's a secondary reason And we're, as Joe Biden said not Joe Katz, um said that we're gonna be testing people weekly. Yeah well that was going to be an option and that never panned out Well that's not even his option No Nobody discusses that option It was supposed to be an option it was clearly said or a weekly test

CHAPTER 11 / 67 Discussion

ESG Scores and Corporate Pressure on Employee Retention

Corporations are reportedly implementing mandates not necessarily out of health concerns, but to maintain high Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) scores. These scores, influenced by firms like BlackRock, dictate investment eligibility regardless of profit. The hosts also discuss the mechanics of unemployment insurance, noting that companies may use "violation of company policy" to deny benefits to those fired for refusing the vaccine.

esg· environmental social governance· unemployment insurance· corporate compliance· blackrock

32:08 What this was, was a nudge for the corporations to go ahead and do what the corporations wanted to do. You bet! And they got cover from the politicians That's all this is Right but I don't...I'm not so sure that Corporations wanted to do this. I'll disagree there, I believe they too are under pressure and they're under pressure from And i'm 100% convinced this is true from the environmental social governance That is the only score that matters it doesn't even matter if you're making profit these days Yeah yeah, yeah, it's this factored in that part because um it makes you wonder why Weekly testing and a mask, not the option to go for most people.

32:51 Unless it's, hey you guys are right on top of each other. You might need to get the vaccine that kind of thing but no what they're saying is you will be not even fired and I am firing people No, that's like the worst part They don't want to fire people because and i'm not quite sure how the mechanism works But I believe if someone if you fire someone And they claim unemployment does the company pay for some of that or their employment insurance pays for it? How does that work yes Yes, they should And we're going to get in touch on that a little later, but that's how it normally works. If you are let go by the company and it's not something that you brought on like being laid or that kind of stuff like that even in those cases meet been

33:32 in that position, have to let people go before it's like well you know what we did fire the guy. Let's not mess with his unemployment That's kind of unless you were just a complete a-hole You know and then it's like oh well We'll also miss around so the definition being an a-hole I'm just saying let's say Joe Katz didn't want to accept the vaccine into his life and his company said well you know we're gonna give you until next week and then you better start because after that, we're gonna keep you at home without pay or we will keep you on board with no pay for two months which implies you can think about it while your while you have no income

CHAPTER 12 / 67 Discussion

Welfare Mandates and Illegal Immigration Double Standards

A rhetorical question is posed regarding why vaccine mandates are applied to workers but not to welfare recipients or illegal immigrants crossing the border. The hosts discuss the perceived unfairness of penalizing tax-paying citizens while allowing non-compliant groups to receive government benefits or entry into the country without similar medical requirements.

welfare· illegal immigration· myocarditis· tax payers· social equity

34:15 Or you can do something else, which means you would leave. And the timing of it right before the holidays! Christmas! Of course! Yes, Christmas baby this is yeah this is the most fun time Your family comes over and says what have you been doing? Yeah I've just been sitting here quasi-unemployed. I laugh about it because Gallo's humor Wow, like they are really taking it here and that makes me look at them like wow Like y'all really want to take it here. Huh? Can I ask you a question which may pop up later in the show? And you don't have the answer It's a rhetorical question but all things considered if you are on welfare

35:02 Should there not be a vaccination mandate for you as well if we're just going to be completely fair about everything or step by step? I knew I knew. I knew always taking it too far put them on no, no I'm saying the rollout like that's why they won't mandate the booster shit Oh, I see what you're saying. Step by step... You don't want to piss too many people all at once. Let's get the workers first. Right so they better hurry up because people are saying this to me it's like hey how come they don't have to get this and there and they're getting free money and we're starving and then we paid all the taxes and and uh and we're screwed

35:43 What about illegal immigrants that's coming across the border? I mean like... Yeah, don't get me started on that. Yeah of course but we're gonna need some people who have replacement hearts for all this myocarditis so we might as well get the illegals in here. Well and they'll get jabbed up too! Nobody is going to escape it if you continue on like we're going So i think with those last clip was at 5 or 4? It was five were going to six So we're post Halloween, we're heading into Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Year's. Last year the advice was to really minimize the amount of gathering we were doing now we have a certain percentage of the population that is vaccinated

CHAPTER 13 / 67 Discussion

Holiday Pressure and Family Division over Vaccination Status

Public health analysts are encouraging families to require vaccination for guests at indoor holiday gatherings. The hosts describe reports of families in the Texas Hill Country and Austin being torn apart by this pressure. They suggest that testing all guests, regardless of vaccination status, is a more logical approach since vaccinated individuals can still spread the virus according to CDC guidelines.

thanksgiving· christmas· hanukkah· family dynamics· testing

36:23 think that there will be a holiday surge that's less severe than last year because of that? You know it's hard to say, Zerlina. We'll have to see and you know a lot is going to be up to individuals if you plan on having a celebration indoors for Thanksgiving or for the winter holidays Christmas and Hanukkah and so on I here's what we would do and what we are going to do is, we're gonna tell potential guests and we're not gonna have a whole lot of them that you have to be vaccinated in order to come to the house here. And I think the more people that demand that very basic requirement that you get vaccinated before you come to an indoor gathering, the better off we're gonna be.

37:09 incentives I think for people to get vaccinated. Incentives, yeah let's pressure you through your family! We have friends now because you know we're out here in Hill Country and there are people in Austin and there are friends of ours who actually hadn't spoken to for quite a while and now they're like holy crap we just woke up what's going on? And they are now in a horrible position where this is literally taking place to them. Can't go home, grandma... you know no one can see grandma unless we're all vaccinated and they're just calling and pressuring these people all day long it's the family structure that is what is being ripped apart by this It's real! That's my biggest

37:52 Beef endlessly that was my thing about the Civil War kind of thing. Yeah, I don't get a kinetic shooting war brother against brother. Yeah That's biblical Let me get this straight you want to let a guy go then he for the holidays He can't see his family He doesn't have any money around the holidays and buy anything first kids and you think he's gonna be okay with it Yeah, no he's not. He is going to be very un-okay with that And as we know people take it to different levels I'm saying this as a PSA Let's just think about this for a minute because It is a perfect storm brewing for people

38:50 Either harm themselves or other people, or harm other people before harm themselves. Yeah. Oh yeah. I talk to people and it's... And then you even get in a stickier situation like i said why didn't he say well you need to have the shot and the boosters come to Christmas? Right if we mean that's my problem with this whole situation It's this middle of the road kind of thing like yeah, you can get the shots but you don't really need your boosters. You can come to Christmas if you got your original shot that you may have taken over a year ago right? That's fine Yeah But if you don't have it If you had COVID and have antibodies you can't come to Christmas Set the clear guidelines say hey you gotta have shots, boosters, two masks and we test you at the door I know At least that's logical

39:50 At least that's logical. Well, no the logical thing is and this is what I tell my friends... I said okay really logically you can even tell your family this CDC guidelines say even if you're vaccinated you can spread the virus so that means that you can also get it and someone else can get it So why don't we just get tested? And then you'll know for sure that I'm okay Vaccinated or not, I'm tested No one can argue that logic. They will, but if it depends on what paradigm you have If you're sick me you're sick and I want to get into this next clip next set of clips

CHAPTER 14 / 67 Discussion

Ari Melber and the Media Portrayal of SCOTUS Rulings

MSNBC host Ari Melber is criticized for his coverage of Supreme Court signals regarding vaccine mandates. The hosts examine a segment where Melber suggests the Biden administration is "winning" at the high court following a ruling in Maine. They argue the media is attempting to control the narrative before the Supreme Court has even heard a full case on the federal private employer mandate.

ari melber· msnbc· scotus· maine· propaganda

40:35 This is your boy Ari from MSNBC. Oh God the hip-hop the hip hop expert yes, Ari I don't know the guy's name He gonna say in next set of clips huh but I want you to look up his picture I didn't have time to get the picture for or you can search by that clip title on YouTube and see this guy I'm not saying he's a lizard But if I was gunners say what a humanoid lizard will look like, it could possibly look like this guy.

41:25 Leaving in place a vaccine mandate for healthcare workers, five justices voting that way including two Trump appointees. The court already left in place mandates at educational institutions so taken together the headline here is it's hard to overturn COVID vaccine requirements and courts have upheld them for a century of all kinds of vaccines now there can be limits when it comes for example religious exceptions and how courts want to require that Meanwhile, the Biden administration set to publish details and a mandate rule in writing this week. That plan allows a major exception allowing basically everyone who is affected by it to choose testing instead of vaccination if they want still Republicans 11 states suing Biden over it and the president has told Republicans have at it because he says he'll win these challenges these brand new court signals that I'm telling you about well there definitely on his side

42:19 The Supreme Court has yet to hear a full case on this, but everything that we're learning including that new ruling from Maine suggests they're okay with it. So did you see the guy that's on the clip? If not I just want to point out this is before the recent- This was like maybe a little less than a week ago but before the halting the of the current mandate so MSNBC is out doing their propaganda and propaganda saying The title of the YouTube videos winning biting Vaxxed mandate get shot in arm from SCOTUS Yeah, I thought it was gonna hear that a name in the in the clip. Okay? I did but I'm looking at up now now I want to see it not now I have to see this whatever whatever It is I gotta see it okay This guy got more teeth

43:14 Well, I'm trying to... Yeah go ahead. No he's a scary looking guy that's all i gotta say uh and I want you to listen to um the milieu that he uses or-or that he speaks with uh or he may be part of Ah yes okay this guy what is his name hold on a second Is it in the clip? yeah oh no no no this guy He IS The Lizard King Definitely yeah, oh he even stuck his tongue out. I just saw him go like a lizard does you see all those teeth? Oh my goodness He's been chomping on some rats or stuff for lunch Yeah Okay alright i'll put that in the show notes so people can enjoy that It's not only his look but listen to his logic number eight

CHAPTER 15 / 67 Discussion

British Influence in American Media and the Concept of Bodily Sanctity

The hosts observe a trend of British commentators appearing on American news to advocate for mandates. They theorize that American audiences find British voices more authoritative, while suggesting some of these figures may have ties to intelligence agencies like MI6 or GCHQ. The discussion critiques the "elitist" tone of foreign nationals telling Americans how to interpret their own constitutional freedoms.

british accent· mi6· gchq· elitism· bodily autonomy

44:08 You've worked with WHO and really know these issues around the world. What's your global perspective here on how the US uses these powers compared to other places? Because we've heard the arguments of, oh maybe this is extreme or government overreach and yet most of the mandates have exceptions. The Biden one has a big one as mentioned in United States has tried to strike a balance with liberty and vaccination for some time Yeah, I mean from an ethical point of view let's just start with that. Everyone has the right to the sanctity their own body, of course but nobody has the right to expose another person to a dangerous infectious disease you don't have the right to go into crowded workspace unmasked and unvaccinated because you cause harm others A lot of other countries around the world have mandates one form or another ours tends to focus on schools and on work

45:06 Others, you know you can't go to a shop. You can't go to the museum. You can't go on an airplane and you can get a croissant in France unless your vaccinated. And so around the world everybody... Is it croissant or is it chrysanthe? It's a croissant. A croissant? You're very international, so go ahead I am yes well yeah i mean from the UK so it's not quite France The guy had like there was a whole chocolate croissant stuck at his front teeth He sounds like Fauci doesn't he? Yeah he does. Elitist. Croissant. When you say croissant then you've been hanging out with Pierre in Paris too much

45:48 He got kind of irked that Ari asked him that. Like, how dare you American? How dare you American? Once again... he's beat the British accent because it is not very detectable but this is one of those things that she brought up and once she brought it up I can't unsee it Where did all these Brits come from to start telling Americans how to live Right well The way Noah Jendishow deconstructed it Is that When it's something that needs to be communicated, that is official. Americans like hearing that from a British voice. It comes across more authoritative and also just like the rest of the M5M most these people are spies and a lot of these Brits are MI6 or MI5 whichever one GCHQ they're you know they are assets and their out to communicate something in no one ever questions them

46:43 He's British, okay. Fine I guess it's official then. It's a different time over there you know he's five hours later. Right? I just find that weird they come over here and they start dictating and telling us what America and our freedoms are Like, honestly? You're the last people that can tell us about freedom. I thought that was settled over 200 years ago! But it's just...I find it fascinating that the...like you said, it's elitism It's like, you're dumb, ignorant, don't know what your talking about believe our science, believe what we are saying

CHAPTER 16 / 67 Discussion

Religious Exemptions and the Sincerity Test

The process of applying for religious exemptions now requires employees to prove they have a "sincerely held religious belief," which the hosts argue is unconstitutional. They draw an analogy to transgender rights, questioning if the public would accept a government "sincerity test" for someone's gender identity. They conclude that the mandate forces people to justify personal choices that should be private.

religious exemption· constitution· sincerely held belief· trans rights· discrimination

47:32 And I'm just gonna put it on the table. At the end of the day, I or anybody else doesn't have to tell anybody why we don't want to do anything See? We've jumped a shark on that one having explained ourselves Do you want a shot now? Why because I said so yeah well It's even worse i mean i get emails every day from people who who want to claim a religious exemption and it's gone so far when you see the question. It's templatized by now, it's kind of the same thing but first of all its sincerely held religious belief So you have to attest that this is a sincerely held religious belief That right there! That language itself is unconstitutional if you're saying well basically you need to prove that your really sincere about your religion No

48:24 No, that it's got to that point is crazy. Why do I even have to prove anything? Nothing! No no and people need to stop there Stop-no, I don't have to prove that But we've tried to go along to get along Yeah That's the American way We always try to be nice people We try to be friendly and neighborly And were being taken advantage of But not but, but he said, but the reason I brought up. But you said oh yeah your entire to the same to see or your body? But no there's nobody after that. No, this is nothing but after that should not be know what that just goes and show you how far we've gotten away from the narrative of

49:08 If I don't want something, I don't want to have it. And I find it fascinating how this flies in the face of the liberal thinkings of respectability politics and doing what's expected of you. That was all they were like, well, you shouldn't have to comb your hair because that's what people expect you to do or you should get to do this. Well again going back to the original lie, the reason why this is... People just forget is because this fake, false lie, this narrative that you can spread it if you don't have symptoms. So the logical conclusion is you need to take the vaccine to protect others except you and that's not true! And that's why this confusion gets there

49:57 It's because the people who are all in on this and don't understand because they're in hypnosis, they don't see that what they say...what they are saying is ridiculous. You should not have to explain anything because that should only be your choice Because you will not harm anyone Could you imagine this? Let's take it away from COVID let's take it away from there. Let's say somebody was going through a sex change And they want access to the proper bathroom with their chosen gender. And they said, well before you can do that... Yeah let's see if we need you to fill out this document To see like are you top and bottom? Is this kind of like a certain thing you just doing on weekends Like how trans are you? Are you sincerely trans? Yes sir there you go That's a great analogy

50:50 Imagine how that will go over but now it's what kind of believer are you? What would trans people don't kill other people moe. Yeah, I'm just saying no Of course, I understand what you're saying It is just a fascinating house like And that's why their side doesn't have any logic, because logic is I can plug this play in anywhere and it would still make sense. No this is you're trying to corner people starting with the believers I believe starting with the people that still want to work in this country because you see a lot of people just checked out It's like, barb it! I'll just take unemployment while you was giving it

CHAPTER 17 / 67 Discussion

The Gasoline Analogy and Justice Gorsuch's Dissent

A media analyst's analogy comparing unvaccinated people to individuals doused in gasoline near smokers is deconstructed and found to be logically flawed. The hosts also reference Justice Neil Gorsuch's dissent regarding healthcare workers being fired for their religious beliefs. They contrast Gorsuch's view with the "four freedoms" rhetoric often invoked by proponents of government intervention.

neil gorsuch· gasoline analogy· jama· fdr· public safety

51:37 I don't have to worry about you taking it from me because i've never went to work. Uh, and and he's like let's just kick the people Um, but I think there's a reason behind that i'll get to in a little bit while they're doing this um But let's hear more of the uh lizard king You have the right to douse yourself in gasoline but the police and the courts Aren't gonna be okay with you doing that and then running around a place where people are smoking and hugging everyone in other words I Want to dissect this analogy Because I think it's very telling maybe the truth wants to come out the way he preface who has the gasoline on them Yeah, who actually had the fire? Okay. We want to hear one more time

52:26 Yeah, please. You have the right to douse yourself in gasoline but the police and the courts aren't going to be okay with you doing that and then running around a place where people are smoking and hugging everyone In other words your own body it could literally on your body but as it starts to touch get close to other peoples bodies there are public safety elements I do want to... So you saying that people who got their cigarettes in fire being the Vaxxed People will set me on fire? Yeah, because you are stupid. You douse yourself in gasoline No, but let's think about that for a minute I know exactly what you're saying Gasoline is harmless without fire Of course if you inhale it can kill you But i'm just saying If you pour it on your clothes It's pretty harmless yeah but if I go around the smokers That's the vaxxers If you've been vaxxed your'e a smoker

53:26 Right. Yeah, the analogy backfires. I'm in danger from him! It does be- and that is possibly true too if you look at the shedding and all that stuff. That's what I'm- That is a major concern of mine but I'm just saying it The way he formulated there, do you not realize your not helping your case? No. I'm covered in gas! He does not, he does not... Stay away from me with your cigarette! Keep your fire away from me! Yeah, good point I like it. All right, we can continue to get to the rest of the clear. Yeah, I just want to hear that out. I like a push back on religious point just so we understand it here because Justice Gorsuch, I wanna say yeah justice Gorsuch wrote about this in The Descent To This So this is the current losing side although it may ultimately go back to the court and he says health care workers who've served on the front lines of a pandemic for the last 18 months are now being fired

54:23 for adhering to their religious beliefs. What do you say to him and those workers if he makes the argument that if they have a genuine good faith, religious belief they ought to be able to adhere to it and continue to provide health care? You know health care workers are there to protect their patients, to save their patients lives and also we want to save their lives. And so if you have a healthcare worker that's unvaccinated He or she can transmit the infection to their fellow health care worker. They can transmit it to a patient You know, I wrote an article for JAMA the general of the American Medical Association talking about a wider freedom FDR Talked about that The whole idea is that you know? Yes, you have a freedom over your own body But you don't have a freedom To in in that that harms other people Wow

55:17 Okay, he stumbled a little bit on his bull crap statement. You have the freedom but you don't have this harm yeah okay He couldn't even get it out like you had the freedom but you know This is they they don't have The common sense on their side No, this is the reason for the propaganda even the title of this video Winning biting Vax mandate get shot in arm from SCOTUS What in that those clips told you they got a shot in the arm? It's just pure we want to control the public narrative. That's all mm-hmm Well, it's also just pathetic new stuff. That's how that's how How do they always think in puns and

CHAPTER 18 / 67 Discussion

Supreme Court Precedent and the 1905 Jacobson Ruling

The 1905 Jacobson v. Massachusetts ruling is frequently cited as the legal basis for mandates, but the hosts clarify that the historical penalty was a fine, not forced vaccination. They argue that while the state may have the right to penalize non-compliance, it does not have the authority to physically force a needle into an individual's arm. They express skepticism about the current Supreme Court's willingness to protect bodily autonomy.

jacobson v. massachusetts· alan dershowitz· fines· supreme court· physical autonomy

56:15 Yeah, I get the pun but i'm just saying that you would think that there is... There have an ironclad case That Discotus is gonna hold. Now, I don't have any faith in this Supreme Court You don't? No, I don't and it's sad to say that yeah Every time we needed him when uh, we got screwed. I mean so it was I'm just speaking from my perspective of every time you think they're gonna stop something neat, well, I think needs to be stopped now. But I'll say this their legacy is on the line and I think that's what they care about most is their legacy Yeah The ones who know what's going on Do you want to be the one that opens his Pandora box similar to how AIDS HIV

57:14 Open the Pandora's box for the testing of medication or the lack of testing a medication Do this scotus want to be the ones that say oh, yeah? You don't have you'll have any rights to your body. That's I Well, the reason why I'm just being honest with you. The reason why don't want to have hope is that I don't want to get kicked in the nuts later by having hope and now notice a bad reason. Yeah yeah well look I have studied this I've studied Supreme Court decisions on this going back to the original which many people use as in fact I disagree seldomly with Alan Dershowitz but I do on this one case and I've had other professors look at this professors of constitutional law

58:01 Back in the old, old pandemic days there was a guy who said no I'm not going to take this vaccination and it went to the state's court and ultimately all the way...this and another case went all the way to the Supreme Court And the answer was, the way it's explained usually today is and absolutely the state had that right but it's not that he lost his case and then they tied him to a gurney and jabbed him. No! They fined him because that was the only thing that really saved this case

58:44 There was no repercussions and there's no fines for not taking it from the government. I'm talking about, you know, not having...not being able to eat because you lost your job and also there were no restrictions of people who didn't have it or are not walking around on the street so you can see where that's a huge restriction and they've done a little bit of that, the masking has changed some of that but it's more a talking point to say Supreme Court absolutely can rule that you need to enforce a mandate but not with the physical insertion of the needle only with a penalty. Now the penalty could be super severe but they cannot sink a needle into your arm

CHAPTER 19 / 67 Discussion

Court Packing and the 2022 Political Calculus

The hosts discuss the possibility of the Democratic party reviving the "court packing" threat if the Supreme Court rules against vaccine mandates. They suggest that such a ruling could serve as a "battle cry" for the 2022 and 2024 elections. The conversation touches on the necessity of ending the filibuster to confirm additional judges and the political risks involved in such a move.

court packing· filibuster· senate· 2022 elections· judicial confirmation

59:32 Okay, that's comforting. Yeah now you may fry but okay you know at least there is no needle in your arm! Right? Um and let me elaborate on this... That's comforting he says funny man Mofax Let me speak onto the kickin' the nads I want to avoid because i think they do have leverage when I say they The Democrats uh and their ruling elite One world government globalist is one thing that's not been talked about since Biden's been in office That was a hot topic during election flooding the courts. Yeah In the course, yeah packing the courts I think that will be a possibility if the court doesn't give them what they want you gave us no choice We tried to work with you not to pack the courts

1:00:28 But in this matter, in life and death you didn't act the right way. So now... And it could be a win-win! I mean, I'm just doing political calculus on this It's like you know what we always wanted to pat the courts anyway Yeah Do it. Right, so the first I'd have to see indication the court will rule against mandates before they start packing the court... That's a reasonable assertion and I like it actually. And that's because I haven't heard of packing the courts since the election. Yes, it has been a bit yeah but they still want to

1:01:08 And this might be the catalyst for them to say, yeah. We know what the SCOTUS is going to do but we already have our counter move lined up to get what we wanted anyway for other reasons. The only thing is a little difficult right now because you still have to send a judge through confirmation and that's gonna be contentious cause that's the Senate it's not easy but yet your point is valid So this guy with a nuclear option if they, I'm sorry to interrupt. If they blow the filibuster you have to blow the filibuster so you can confirm the judges you want on the courts that's how it would work and they might not even be able to pat the court but the conversation changes yeah this is our battle cry for 2022 2024 yes wow which is all about politics at the end of day

CHAPTER 20 / 67 Discussion

FDR's Four Freedoms and the Fear Narrative

In his 1941 State of the Union address, President Franklin D. Roosevelt articulated the "Four Freedoms": freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom from want, and freedom from fear. The hosts analyze how these principles are being used today, arguing that the current administration focuses on "freedom from fear" to justify the erosion of the other three freedoms.

franklin d. roosevelt· four freedoms· freedom of speech· freedom of worship· 1941

1:02:03 and winning elections. So, Lizard King brought up FDR so he talked about the freedoms that FDR spoke about so I went and did some research on FDR in the four freedoms and i have two clips on it first being number 10 you and I have seen event follow event each and every one of them a shock they shocked to our hopes for the peaceful development of modern civilization as we know it.

1:02:40 FDR soon told Americans that they should be wary of the four fears. The fear of not being able to worship freely, the fear of losing freedom of expression, the fear of military arms and the fear that the war would damage free commerce among nations. But now it was New Year's Day 1941 and it was time to look forward Within the White House, President Roosevelt and his advisors were preparing for the annual message to Congress. Suddenly FDR leaned back in his chair In a moment he would ask his secretary to take down an idea for a new finale to the upcoming speech

1:03:22 It would not be for fears, but for freedoms. As he was sitting there he was thinking about the imperative of coming up with a set of words that would lift the speech beyond the idea that we have reason to fear the axis powers We have reason to believe and reason to hope That we can make a difference So he articulates Sitting at his desk with his speech writers He actually articulates Right out of his head these famous words freedom of speech and expression Freedom of worship freedom from want and freedom from fear Yeah, he's the one that said all we have to fears for yourself. Yeah He also don't want a crate you would either you win so I don't want to give him too many No, no, okay Don't give them too much kudos there but that's a nice little list, you know speech

1:04:15 What's the second one? Worship, want. I like that fear of right and wants it's nice and if freedom is from fear itself yeah but yes the two but that's the two parts we have now the Freedom Party in the Fear Party you're right This is it. And it's amazing that the guy that just spoke brought him up to say that Roosevelt spoke about these freedoms, but in these freedoms I think this ideology and what his talking points were will lean towards more of the people on the side. Hey! I have a right to first of all say I don't want

1:04:58 To actually speak that from my mouth, which I think a lot of people are closeted right now. Yeah Just hoping that their card is not pulled Pun intended and not intended. Once I said it, it sounded kind of cool. You don't want your Vaxx car pulled to see this side. Yeah you're missing...you talk a good game but you're actually not Vaxx or to say that's the actual...to be able to say it freedom to express yourself because I don't want to

CHAPTER 21 / 67 Discussion

Social Safety Nets and the Trap of Poverty

The discussion critiques the American welfare system, suggesting it is designed to keep people trapped in poverty rather than providing a "springboard" back into the workforce. Mo Facts argues for a strong social safety net that provides significant upfront support instead of small, lingering payments. They link this to the modern push for Universal Basic Income (UBI) and the habituation of people staying at home.

welfare state· social security· ubi· poverty· economic mobility

1:05:34 I'm expressing myself and then you know the freedom to what was the other two it was I know the last one speech worship want and fear want I Want a job. Yeah, I want to work yeah Just me personally. I've been working so I've been 15 years old uninterrupted maybe but six months After what was that? 2003 2002 where there just were no jobs and you know, you get to that weird place where McDonald's won't hire you. Yeah You don't have enough experience to get the job at your own so I've been in that spot So we're talking about putting Americans that went to work every day That you know Paid into the system not get rid of them and you bring up these four things you bring up Roosevelt or freedom

1:06:29 Yeah, but I think I understand where how he uses Roosevelt because Roosevelt has some a lot of communist ideas Ask put them in there and I asked totally did he brought in huge welfare state. Yeah the Grand New Deal the Great New Deal He brought in Social Security a lot of these things which they kind of make sense but I think, always make this point because i'm not a socials by any means, but I do think America should have a strong social safety net to spring people back into work. Sure like you know you out of work let's not give you like a little piece of crumbs and just let you linger for years and years on welfare how about we give you a nice sum of money up front? And if you don't do right by that your own

1:07:31 Instead of like breaking off these little pieces and give it to you where you never can get yourself going again I'm almost which I think that's created by design For it to be that way when you get trapped into poverty and people can politic on your behalf, right? for their gain so Those are the four freedoms by FDR. Yeah, I like that. I've never actually heard those. I appreciate you yeah diving into that And they would encounter to the four fears. What are our four fears now? COVID, climate, nationalism... You know we all need to be global. We don't need have borders and then I don't know what you consider maybe the fourth freedom maybe the economy inflation when you look at that well under that one that would be under want under want would be inflation reduction of buying power

1:08:24 Right. So we're right back at where we are there with, we're facing these global fears but instead of a totalitarian madman like Hitler, you have an undetectable disease. Yeah And what I mean by undetectable? I'm not talking about the PCR test. I'm talking about... You can't see who has it and who doesn't have it by the point you made about the asymptomatic spread. Yeah, anybody can have it I mean it could be... You've completely made people afraid of cooties Right circlecircledotdot

CHAPTER 22 / 67 Discussion

Globalism and the Evolution of Presidential Media Harnessing

The hosts trace how different presidents harnessed new technologies to communicate with the public: FDR with radio, JFK with television, Obama with the internet, and Trump with social media. They argue that FDR's "Four Freedoms" were a precursor to modern globalist ideologies. The conversation suggests that current leaders are attempting to use these historical frameworks to advance a "One World Government" agenda.

jfk· barack obama· donald trump· radio· social media

1:09:08 So let's see, let's get into the second part of four freedoms. In the future days which we seek to make secure We look forward To a world founded upon four essential human freedoms The first is freedom of speech and expression everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way, everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want which translated into world terms

1:10:02 means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy, peacetime life for its inhabitants everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear which translated into world terms means a worldwide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor anywhere in the world. You know, they really should have turned FDR onto StreamYard back in the day man his audio sucks but you know the funny thing is yeah he him using radio and harnessing what was magic man that was that was the shit

1:11:06 That that he and I always talk about these the new technologies, and how people harness them for their you know for their benefit We have Obama. He was kind of like the internet president well Yeah, that's what they said sure it's a difference It's a different because everybody talked about that uh His his mailing list is mailing lists You know that kind of thing yeah? He really Caught on using the internet now Trump. He's a social media President yeah, which is we have to separate those two then you go back to television that would be JFK Because yes that was the huge reason why he beat Nixon yep because the way he actually understood

1:11:48 optics and you know how you look on television. And going back to FDR, he harnessed the power of the radio where people would sit around and listen speeches on the radio and it would kind of soothe them and calm them in the times that were going crazy. So, that's the four freedoms? And I just like I said found it funny that he invoked FDR but I think he's thinking more of the globalist... Oh absolutely! Yeah oh yeah that's exactly well people forget

CHAPTER 23 / 67 Discussion

The Shadow Presidency and the 30-30-40 Societal Split

Mo Facts posits that Barack Obama is acting as a "shadow president," citing his prominent appearance at the COP26 climate summit. The hosts discuss a societal model where 30% of the population is "all-in" on the government narrative, 30% is completely opposed, and the 40% in the middle simply follows whoever appears to be winning. They note the surprising camaraderie between former political rivals like Obama and the Bush family.

barack obama· cop26· george w. bush· social dynamics· public opinion

1:12:25 You know, they forget all the good... Well that's for every president. There has always been good and bad things and the things that get taken forward throughout time and are then highlighted And of course determine what everyone thinks the guy was Yeah I mean we saw it with Johns Hopkins Sure Johns Hopkins doesn't necessarily mean what they stand for today Right They hijack these names and.. I just want to make one point before we move on Uh-huh We've talked about the shadow presidency that I think is going on. I don't know where you stand on it, but could it be that Barry O sees himself as FDR? Oh! I think he saw himself as FDR when he was 10 years old absolutely. The long reign of

1:13:17 He had his eight years and now he, from my perspective... Well did you see him at COP26? Did you see is it his pompous ass up there and the way he was orating. I didn't see that. Oh yoy yoy totally! That's why i can say so..I don't have to think about it. He's doing an FDR thing right now on the world stage So we got the fears in place, like FDR had in place. Now here comes the I think they can't get a great new deal and right now like a huge thing so it's like let's get it piecemeal and that's where you see these huge bills the infrastructure bill other things trillions of dollars just being handed out all over the place

1:14:11 I think UBI is part of that as well. I didn't go there in this episode, but getting people comfortable with being home... Oh! I'm all-in on that a couple of things getting people comfortable with being at home Getting people comfortable with no physical cash These types of things That's the kind of stuff that I think is The stuff we haven't really even gotten to discuss But it's just there It's happened. I just think, the long-term picture they look at it like hey well even if we had to take a step back which they had to take a step back with Trumps four years We still move forward right? We'll get Biden in and then hopefully Kamala getting in she'll do eight He's just gonna do what his daddy Bush did basically Daddy bush yes no I know we know that we know the bloodlines we did that episode

1:15:12 It's just funny like I said every time it's amazing how they're just magnetic to each other now. It's crazy for one person This is just I'm gonna go on a brief tangent, but every time I see it just boils my blood To see a person campaign that this person's award criminal and then you your palin around with them You know X amount of years later like everything's cool. Yeah, not it don't work that way What that just going show you did? That's what I bring that up to say, that's why the public are like we don't care what y'all talk about because you all don't really mean it. Yes! I think we got to the point now where the public don't believe none of this Now you have your 30% when you're talking about this buy into whatever the mainstream media tells them and they're gonna go that way but a lot of people just like

1:16:03 It's all BS anyway. Well again it's 30%. 30% are 100%, 30% are 100% all in, 30% are 0% all in and then there is 40% in the middle which is just going with the initial 30%. But you know that where we chip away They rockin' with the winners. I would hope so, I would hope so. Well no they're just looking to see which side is winning and they run up on it they don't really have a stance that 40% is like well we're 30% winning and we'll throw our weight behind that. Good point yeah good point

CHAPTER 24 / 67 Discussion

Fifth Circuit Court Halt and the Power of Headlines

The Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals temporarily blocked the Biden administration's private employer mandate, citing "grave statutory and constitutional issues." White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain expressed confidence that the mandate would eventually be upheld. The hosts discuss how media outlets use misleading headlines to influence the "40% in the middle" who rarely read past paywalls or initial paragraphs.

fifth circuit court of appeals· ron klain· palm beach county· paywalls· media propaganda

1:16:40 So we stopped I think at 11. Let's go ahead and get into 12, this is Biden's vaccine mandates for companies temporarily halted. Meanwhile the Biden administration's federal vaccine mandate for companies with at least 100 employees was temporarily blocked by a federal appeals court on Saturday. A three judge panel on the New Orleans-based Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said, the new rules raise quote grave statutory and constitutional issues The court gave the Justice Department until 5 p.m today to respond to the lawsuit filed by GOP-led states and businesses, this comes as more than 15 states have filed lawsuits against the administration over its federal vaccine mandate for companies but White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain says he is certain the mandate will still stand

1:17:38 I'm quite confident that when this finally gets fully adjudicated, not just a temporary order. The validity of this requirement will be upheld it's common sense Chuck if OSHA can tell people to wear hard hat on the job and to be careful on chemicals it could put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe. Alright let's bring right now State Attorney for Palm Beach County Dave Varenberg and former prosecutor Charles Coleman. So people look at this ruling, they may see the headlines and go oh my gosh. This is a huge setback for the Biden administration but we need to put some context here. I mean I can't believe you watch Morning Joe that's so harsh. You should get danger pay for that alone. I have to have to go where the story leads me

1:18:30 You heard what he said. If you read the headlines, and that's why I made a big deal about the previous headline winning Biden vaccine mandate gets winning like it is already won right? Winning Biden vaccine mandate get shot in the arm from SCOTUS now days later they come with this headline by the vaccine mandate for our companies temporarily halted federal appeals yeah how does that work Because what people do is they read the headlines and they might watch the first minute of video, and then like oh send it out. Like oh it was halted or shot in arm was winning And they're fighting for that 40% that you highlighted to see which way they can get them to swing Yeah headlines will do it because most people only read headlines pass it on and even if they do click on It's usually a paywall They never get to the story

1:19:25 Right. They leave just enough above the paywall so you can read it. Yeah, to get the important information to get the truth first. The facts are always up top people. Yep! It's like if you don't want to pay me we got...you've read what we wanted you to read? Yep So let's talk Virginia for a minute because I don't think me and you had a chance to talk Virginia Okay. I think Virginia had a lot to do with this halt with states red states putting their big boy pants on and saying, hold up the people might be don't want this. Oh it was a huge shot in the butt for and you say red states because it was a political boost

CHAPTER 25 / 67 Discussion

Virginia Elections and the Blueprint for Parental Rights

The recent Republican victory in Virginia is characterized as a "shot in the butt" for the political right, driven by parental concerns over school board policies. The hosts argue that "Critical Race Theory" (CRT) served as a proxy for broader frustrations regarding mask and vaccine mandates for children. Mo Facts shares his decision to remove his children from the public school system in favor of a community-based hybrid model.

virginia· glenn youngkin· school boards· critical race theory· homeschooling

1:20:09 and all politics I've learned now, the President of the United States... here you go! The president went there. The vice-president went there. The former president Obama went there Everybody was doing everything they could to pull this jamoke over the finish line and they couldn't do it because local rules And when that happens, you don't need a whole nation You just get as long as you can organize In this case it looked like parents and parents were bringing it together, and now that's the blueprint. Or as you say flip on the Xerox let's go! And even the Democrat infused media was saying well now the Republicans have a blueprint so I'll say yeah that's totally good but i don't give republicans any break screw them they're just as bad as the rest they see political gain now they get into action

1:21:03 And this whole CRT thing, I didn't make mention of this aspect of it. But combatting CRT was a chosen horse or the beta run for these vax mandates and mask mandates. See they couldn't come in there saying we're anti-mask, we're anti-vaxxed you not gonna vax our kids so it's like you're not going to teach my kids critical race theory You know, and everything. And that's the ownership of the kids. That's why the ownership of the kids was the key argument who owns the keys to this state on them? Then we can jab him or does a parent own them? Yes, yes, yes! And they use critical race theory as the proxy argument

1:21:51 It was really about those masks and you notice that's why the approval waited to after the election. After the election, yes! Not just the... No I believe Pfizer even held back on saying that they had a viable candidate until after the election it was that disgusting say oh we can hold off a couple weeks who cares you know let's just see what no unnecessary deaths here yeah no unnecessary deaths here but okay but yeah Virginia was a battleground state in the sense of

1:22:33 you know, it's a middle ground state. The reason why the way it is constructed you have a lot of rural areas all over and then you have this large population bubble right at the top of the state adjacent to Virginia and Maryland. I know you didn't vote in the previous election. I was just curious since you live in the area did you vote in this Virginia election? I did not but... You're consistent! Did you go to a school board meeting I did not. Okay, the reason why didn't I took my kids out of school? Yeah You did one better than that If i don't get what I want for my money I'm not gonna My thing is this I didn't want to have to put my kids in and had to take them out Once they were saying this decision made kind of read tea leaves. I've been preparing for being getting mandated Because I can read the tea leaves um

1:23:34 So it's not out of just like, oh apathy to say nothing is going to change. No! This is what more parents need to do. Oh totally And I know a lot can't and this why we had the conversation about hybrid. I think if communities work together hey I can get off this day and run school you get off that day you run school but it'll have to be a collective of people in neighborhoods and communities to have each other's backs. Because a lot of people, both parents have to work. Luckily I've been working from home and my wife she hasn't worked because she worked in the healthcare field so it's like we're not gonna put you into undue risk We'll just go without that kind of thing right doing is like no we'll just we'll just go without uh No vacations know whatever but you're not going to work um No, and that's

CHAPTER 26 / 67 Discussion

Capitalism vs. Corporate Cabals and the Climate Lockdown

While supporting a business's right to set its own rules in a free market, the hosts condemn what they describe as a "cabal" of corporations fixing employment terms through mandates. They predict that the infrastructure for COVID compliance will be repurposed for "climate lockdowns," where individual carbon footprints and food consumption (such as real beef vs. 3D-printed alternatives) will be strictly monitored.

capitalism· price fixing· climate change· carbon footprint· millennials

1:24:33 This is what's gonna have to happen too, and I'm speaking to my people that the pro-choice people with choice comes responsibility You're big on this Adam if you don't like social media build your own That's right. If you if you don't like whatever build your own This is where we go ahead to be it for my pro-choice People because we do live in a capitalistic society if my job says if my job said you know what? You don't want to get a jab, you're fired. Fine that's your choice as a business right? As a bit you recap we live in a capitalist society fine but when you getting this cabal and it kind of do this price fixing kind of thing like none of us are going to hire anybody that is not vaxxed. Right That's the problem I have with it no because I want people to compete. I wanted the guy third or fourth in competition say you know what let me get some those vaxx guys

1:25:32 You know what I'm saying? Let me cherry pick off, but that's business. That's capitalism But as you said a lot of companies are kowtowing to the government And it's this circular thing like who really owns the country It's not even the government its uh... its really the um It's the big hedge funds, investment firms pension funds all run under this new... it is called ESG investing. It is a super real thing and down the road we are going to see that all of these kind of ties in. It all ties in. Mandatory vaccinations creating more data about people particularly health data moving that more towards climate change

1:26:14 This is not stopping. Everyone who is compliant now will be compliant for the climate lockdown, which will come and I think it'll come in the... The one thing they learned from this whole experience is keeping those numbers up on the screen on the right fifth of the screen how many dead you know why not just have a counter there? Climate deaths today! Well this is where I have faith in people When they start limiting how many times you can charge your phone in a day, when those kind of things hit... No but it won't be that. It's going to be uh.. You should not have any more real beef this month. You've already used up too much carbon from cow farts. You need to have some 3D printed beef That's how it's gonna happen Even then I don't think the young people are gonna go

1:27:14 And I know, I think a lot. But this is...I believe that the young people are looking around they're in that 40% to say which side is the popular thing to say until it impacts them. Yeah, I guess you tell them they can't have any more Chick-fil-A right? You tell them that can't have anymore Starbucks and so you can all these products will know when on hold on now. The Starbucks and the chick-fil-a will be continued to be encouraged. They will not no no no that will be encouraged us all process. That's all crap. That's part of the system. No, I'm talking about some real food

1:27:56 Well, then you have the... I think that young people have a better understanding of food than older people. We'll see. I believe that, I truly believe that. Sure! No, but... I have faith in the older millennials. They're in that 40%. A lot of them. You know 25 to 35. Because it really hasn't hit home yet like I said just for me. But you don't- When it hits home people gotta be aware. I hope its not too late Because now we can still stop it. It's never too late, I believe that and you know what tells me that is the way they're excuse my language but pussyfooting around it. If they had the juice they wouldn't need all of this propaganda That's obvious They are not done by a long shot But the marketing is there And the marketing will continue to spin up

CHAPTER 27 / 67 Discussion

The "Less People" Business Model and ESG Investing

A shift in global business strategy is discussed, moving from a "more people" model (more consumers, more babies) to a "less people" model favored by climate activists at COP26. The hosts explain how ESG investing prevents pension funds from investing in profitable sectors like oil and gas. They argue that corporate governance is now focused on stock price manipulation through share buybacks rather than traditional bottom-line profits.

cop26· esg· exxon mobil· blackrock· share buybacks

1:28:59 And I don't even think they have the funding for it. Not yet, and let me tell you why Mick, I don't think we ever discussed this right? And now just make it quick there's only two groups of people there is the more people group more people as good for business or less people as good for business that's the only two groups it is yes well the elites the less people are good for business uh...they have chosen to If you listen to COP26 and I watched a lot of the sessions, the whole idea is this climate change all these trillions of dollars that's going to come from commercial companies. You see? But the old money... And see this is where I get to the point of more cars more gas more people more children That has been our business model since the beginning of time

1:29:57 Now you come with this, not you but the less people party comes and say You know what? If we kill off everybody. Um... Now it's crazy now hear me out! And I'm not you but this is how they're selling it. I know it sounds crazy but we can have more with less More with less and the money sitting around like That sounds good, but we've done business like this for 300 400 500 years more babies more people more gas my cars. You understand? More tires more you know and that's the way we done business and I think they're doing their sales pitch right now to say trust me less people will be good and it's really the big money there sitting back saying hi well let's see

1:30:42 Make your proposal. And they're not convinced, I don't... like i said if it was.. If they were convinced we'll all be cooked the reason... We will all be Australia right now Yes so It will be possible for a long time The reason why am not so bullish as you are is because ESG investing goes anti bottom line It's NOT about making more profit And it is a thing and it has been shoved into the public markets mainly. it's an attack and all these CEOs and all these companies know, and of course if you look at the just look at any news story. You cannot as a pension fund, as an endowment, at any kind of investment firm with partners or constituents, you cannot invest in Exxon Mobil

1:31:40 It is not allowed because of the ESG investing rules. Even though, even though right now you know you'd be making bank because the price of oil almost doubled in 24 months You cannot invest in them so that has been our business and I'm totally with ya on that but this woke paradigm has taken over Wall Street and people are just going along with it. And half the people, I know people on boards, I'm like what are you guys doing? Said no no ESG is real we have all these different things and BlackRock has nothing to do with it. I send them three articles like holy crap oh that's interesting. You made my point or you made the point I was trying to get too they're showing numbers by look at this graph and look at this algorithm they saying this is good in it

1:32:29 But it's not profit. Yes, but they're not showing profit! They're not showing it in the same way. They're saying this is the market we will create which will be you know renewable so-called solar panels wind whatever electricity wires all these different things but they are forcing commercial companies to make these investments I believe against their better judgment That's my point. You got to the point I'm making, it is against their better judgment and it's a very fragile situation right now because what if people say you know what screw it? Screw it! Just screw all of it

1:33:14 Well, that's possible. That's possible. The old money is gonna say well wait hold on here Hold on here a minute and we saw a glimpse of this a blip of this with Trump in office It was like they were headed that way until Trump said yeah bring your trillions on back to America You understand? We won't tax you And it was like, oh that's the best money move and all these people operate off of his money. That's it! That's all they don't care about their climate they don't care about their boobsies. When you say the people and I'm looking at corporate governance everybody wants one thing share buyback so the price goes up everyone's invested in that they don't care It's not about if the bottom line has to influence the stock price...that's what it is

CHAPTER 28 / 67 Discussion

Public Perception of the Supreme Court and Independent Media

Legal analysts on mainstream networks express concern that the Supreme Court's reputation will suffer if it appears too political. The hosts discuss Justice Amy Coney Barrett's previous refusal to block Indiana University's vaccine mandate as a sign of the court's leanings. They emphasize that independent media is the only way for citizens to find facts that contradict the "ironclad" narrative presented by cable news.

john roberts· amy coney barrett· indiana university· independent media· youtube

1:33:57 You don't need the bottom line. You don't need a bottom line to have a, to have the stock price go up you just Need to have enough access to free money so you can buy your own stock Well there is a number we gotta get to a little later We'll ge-we'll get there but I think we stopped at 12? We're 13 now. We're 13 Good morning, Jonathan. I agree with Charles the Fifth Circuit has the reputation of not just being the most conservative federal appellate court but also the most political and also the least tethered to precedent remember this is the same court that refused intervene in the notorious Texas abortion law that allowed that to go into effect one that creates vigilante justice to get around Roe versus Wade

1:34:37 And here, they're doing the opposite. They're actually intervening using a different rule instead of just going through this traditional way of issuing a preliminary injunction. They just said hey we find there are grave statutory and constitutional issues here and so they're acting pretty political you can see why the Supreme Court where Chief Justice Roberts has expressed concerns about politics that this could exacerbate the public perception of the court as just politicians wearing black robes. And I do think the US Supreme Court will reinstate the mandate after the Fifth Circuit does away with it, because first it's not really a mandate! This is something that allows an opt-out

1:35:18 for people who are unvaccinated to go ahead and just get tested weekly for COVID. And secondly, there's the 1905 Jacobson ruling where the Supreme Court said that vaccine mandates at the state local level are constitutional. Justice Harlan in a 7-2 ruling said that one person's liberty does not override everyone else's. Now we're not totally sure if that ruling will apply to a federal vaccine mandate, but this Supreme Court doesn't seem to have too much sympathy for anti-vaxxers as evidenced by Justice Barrett's ruling or Indiana University in August against students who complained about the vaccine mandates there. Yeah there you go! That was the case I was talking about...the Jacobson case But see how they play it? Oh yeah it's constitutional

1:36:05 But you hear the nervousness in their voice? Totally. They understand that this is their last shot, so they gotta go for it all with the information age that we live in when you actually go and look for facts, you can find them So they're in a weird spot right now with independent medias like we do here and all over It's like screw your cable package I'll go watch YouTube for free. Yeah, you know what i'm saying? Oh yeah! You want me on YouTube? Of course! I'll go to whatever...you understand it's a whole long list of them. Oh you don't want me there okay that's the word that's where they don't want people at The beautiful thing about America is they want you fat dumb and happy That's about it brother

CHAPTER 29 / 67 Discussion

The Loss of Institutional Wisdom and the "Booster Number"

The hosts argue that modern corporations have replaced experienced "old-timers" with younger, cheaper employees who lack the perspective to see when a strategy is failing. They introduce the concept of the "booster number"—the specific number of shots an individual is willing to take before they finally refuse and join the opposition. They suggest that as the mandate for boosters increases, more people will reach their limit.

mad men· copywriting· institutional knowledge· millennials· boosters

1:36:56 and we're not happy. It don't feel good to save the planet I know it's, yeah i said it doesn't feel good to say the planet if this is what it costs its gonna cost me I'm thinking just like people at the top are thinking no uh-uh No! I'm looking up saying no uh-uh I don't care about how great my 401k look because you invest in a sustainable...I don't care give me my gas I don't want an electric car And I think it's a severe miscalculation that they don't understand the psychology of average people. Well, yeah they don't! They don't! This is what happens when you don't have... Actually they do understand it, but just don't care. You watch Mad Men and I watch Mad Men Remember the old guy who was an alcoholic? He cleaned himself up and he was a copywriter

1:37:53 And he would... Remember, he would tell them like sell the product because women want to get married. And they went all around the way around the block doing studies and blah-blah-blah this They don't have any more of those guys in the room Those older guys that say you know what? That's not good I've seen that before it is not going to work What they've done is they brought into all these new people with all their new ideas with no proof. That's right I work with these people, no side against them. I guess I'm a late millennial in 1980? I don't know where I fall at. I'm a late millennial with boomer tendencies. Yes you are! No because I was raised by my grandparents so that's what leads me into it. Yeah of course. Right, I got heavy on the boomer

1:38:43 But that's it doesn't make sense and it's like trust me. It'll makes That's how they're trying to sell it to us and especially people my age We're looking like, oh you want a fire people right? Like that's the light They don't understand workers code the last thing you do as a worker is one of fire somebody They don't get there and everybody's laying real low all bad yeah because Yeah, especially with the boom I said boomer talk the booster talk now. It's like oh okay? Yeah, like what's your number? I'm asking everybody now What's your number write your number down three boosters four boosters ten boosters yeah this gets get ready When you hit your number You'll be on my side and it's not out of trying to win you on my side But that's just the reality of the situation That they're gonna keep pushing this until we stand up And I don't think

1:39:40 Don't think they understand who we are We've gone along to get along. I'm telling you don't don't I Think ice Q said I ain't no killer, but not push me. Oh that's my pot No, don't say it. Don't uh, don't push me. I'm close to the edge Is that you see? And like I said, we've been at the bottom for a long time. Everybody about to start joining us and feel like what the bottom really feels like. Brother, you know what? I'm un-vaxxed at the bottom right there with ya! What the bottom is talking about is so called black people because they're really honest with you... Nah, I don't get to ride that bottom not yet No, you don't want to ride it but I'm just saying Black people have in their back of mind like what if I get fired today? What if somebody says something that I really don't like and I had to say something back You know what I am saying Like That's a

CHAPTER 30 / 67 Discussion

Masculinity and the "Papa Bear" Response to Economic Threats

The conversation shifts to the biological and psychological responses of men when their families are threatened. While "Mama Bear" is a popular term for protective mothers, the hosts warn that "Papa Bear" represents a more volatile force that emerges when a man can no longer provide for his children. They caution "old money" elites that breaking the economic system could lead to a total loss of civility.

masculinity· mama bear· papa bear· civility· economic pressure

1:40:31 I wouldn't say a daily thought, but it crossed your mind. Like what would I do? And I think everybody's starting to see that now. You say something people don't like! People might get fired. I would say and this only goes along with your prediction you're first...I would say that there are men all over the country who have that thought every single day If you said one more thing about men, one more thing about whatever it is. Cishetmen, whatever it is. Mansplaining. Stop it! That's the real thing that of course we have In you know, we have a chemical composition that anger is a part of our being. That's what men have so yeah Mama bear they talk about mama bear Yeah, that's pretty interesting I've seen nothing to see Papa Bear Thank you very much. Thank you very much You're so right because and I love the whole mama bear vibe and it's fine but yeah papa bear that's that's beware

1:41:29 Because if you watch animal planet or any of these shows, like the hyenas come and attack the women on the pride- in the lion pride. Yeah You know what I'm saying? Like they don't handle their business but when they let out that certain call... Yep There's there's the papa When you let out that certain call, here comes Simba over to your side across the pride. And he kick everybody ass! Excuse my language and that's the power of Mama Bear because she has that call to say all right daddy we took all we could take. That's the only thing I'm telling you now Mama Bear is powerful because she's the only thing holding civility together right now. Because if you talk about my kids starving

1:42:12 All right, I mean do you really want to go there? I'm just asking. Do y'all written and i'm not saying it in a violent way i'm saying that is where does this stop Like there's a lot of men out here Some gonna go to the bottles because something gonna go to other things And then somebody's gonna be like, you know what okay and it's going to be something that build new things Yeah, yeah The pressure gonna create some diamonds too so i'm not i'm not you're saying completely uh doomed out But I'll just say to both sides, like be careful this beautiful system that we have. Even though it has flaws, this beautiful system that we have do you really want to break it old money? I'm talking to you old money Do y'all really wanna risk it on the less people They really don't give a shit Moe sorry! I think they care because of the bottom line. I'm appealing to their love for the bottom line. No, no...I think at certain point bottom line may not matter but okay We will see

CHAPTER 31 / 67 Discussion

Mid-Level Management and the Push to End Remote Work

Mainstream media commentators argue that mandates are necessary to get the economy "back on track" and return workers to offices. The hosts blame mid-level managers for this push, suggesting they want employees back on-site to mask their own failures in meeting goals. They argue that remote work has actually improved productivity and work-life balance for many employees.

remote work· mid-level management· work-life balance· delta variant· productivity

1:43:09 That's how I see it, but let's go ahead and get to 14. Charles this is about companies being able to have a safe workplace so i'm trying to understand what's unconstitutional about it? Is there any potential that those pushing against this mandate for businesses with 100 employees or more... There are a lot of businesses across the country that want to be back to work at full capacity and getting this economy back on track Well, what I found interesting about this case is that what they used as a means of trying to argue this wasn't necessarily a matter of should they be able to do it. It was the question of the authority under OSHA because OSHA essentially made this regulation or approved this regulation under emergency authority. I don't know that's going to be enough down the line particularly given what we've seen in terms of COVID and the economy and

1:43:59 work and the amount of strain that is placed on different workspaces in order to try to get this vaccine mandate done away with. I don't think that's going to be enough because the cost has been so great on the American people and so great on the country, more than likely what the court is going to do is basically validate that OSHA did have the authority to make this ruling and support what the Biden administration is trying to do." Dave Aaron, boy it's gonna be a real rich. I'm sorry Mika you get you go? I'm just saying that the Delta variant is still actually it's you know Still very much a part of our lives we have got many months to go at the rate that We're going right now in order to have Kovat behind us these mandates are proven to work look at New York City

1:44:55 And she said the quiet part out loud. Yes, she did 10 seconds of that clip if you listen again if you want to play it right Charles this is about companies being able to have a safe workplace I'm trying to understand was on unconstitutional I mean safe work point right there Get the slaves back to work yeah We need them back in the building That's the real, and I blame mid-level management for this because they go in there. They don't meet their goals for the quarter of the half or a year and they say you know if my guys was here on site... It would be so much better! Yeah we woulda hit our goals You know it's just that they're not here on site So that what pushed me to say all these hinges are on the bottom line Because these companies are like We need our people back into the building because this is why were no making our numbers Which is NOT true

1:45:48 Which is not true. No, it's the opposite as far as I'm concerned Right? I haven't had a better work-life balance outside of the COVID thing ever because i can work for a few hours, hang out with kids for two hours and go back to work and I'm working later than I normally work It allows you to break your day up like if you're in a building for eight hours then leave, I'm home don't bother me but now its like okay one hand washes the other If you need me to be here a little later, I'll take off in the middle of the day and then I'll come in and log in a little later and do what needs to be done. But it's this mid-level management that is blaming people not being there for their failures." It's very reminiscent of mid-level state or city government

1:46:40 Same way. We need more money for it, why is the federal government looking like we gave you two billion dollars? Well you know... It just kind of got away from us, we need more so I'm just pointing that out but she kinda pumped the brakes on saying they're in a weird spot right now because they want to say well the Delta variant is trending down But they still need to keep pressure applied. So at the end of that last clip, she was like, well, the variant is going to kind of be with us for a while. And the reason why she said that is in 1480's little short clip this is how they led this segment off

CHAPTER 32 / 67 Discussion

Scott Gottlieb and the Pfizer Treatment Pill Strategy

Former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, now a Pfizer board member, predicted that the Delta wave would be the last major wave of the pandemic. The hosts suggest this timing coincides with the rollout of Pfizer's new oral COVID treatment pill. They argue that the popularity of alternative treatments like Ivermectin forced the pharmaceutical industry to accelerate the release of their own "subscription-style" medication.

scott gottlieb· fda· pfizer· ivermectin· joe rogan

1:47:20 I think we're close to the end of this. This delta wave is the last major wave of infection We've always said that two of the events that would demarcate the end of this pandemic was being able to vaccinate our children, and now were able to do that down to age 5 And also having a widely available or orally accessible drug that could treat coronavirus at home To prevent people from being hospitalized or dying Yeah okay so first of all let's just consider the source of this 19 second intro This is Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner who left the FDA during the Trump administration and went straight to Pfizer on the board. And he's telling us that Vaxx is great this is what we wanted Delta has gone nothing else there's no scientific evidence that's been published that proves that and of course we've got a great pill coming up another Pfizer product

1:48:09 He said it's the last major wave. How can you be so cavalier and confident to say that Delta... He's from the FDA, man! He knows these things he got the crystal ball So now you heard why she said how she had to say it like uh It's She wanted to say that oh Delta variant is killing us but then she had to remember like Oh no That's right No because the timing of the pill The timing of the pill is how the variant ends I firmly believe the pill that's the Pfizer's end strategy. Yes, they will come up with boosters every six months but I think the pill is there it's like a subscription donation you know? It's like let's just get it let's get a couple hundred million people on this thing $2,000 a month. But we ruined them excuse me we ruined their rollout for the other pill for them thats what im saying with the power I'm not dooming today and I am NOT glooming

1:49:07 The power is in our hands. Once people start saying Ibramectin, it's like shit! We got to ramp up the pill you know? It's like they're talking about our competition we don't really want to talk about it right now but we got too so their whole timeline is thrown off They...I'm sure they didn't want to talk about this pill they're talking about for awhile now Why would you wanna have conflicting products on the market we got the vaccine going, we got the government buying a hand over fist. You know what I'm saying? Four or five shots out you know what i'm saying?" Yeah well no I think that this is their hedge you know the last thing they want is people to really turn against the vaccine they need an alternative so it may be a hedge maybe the strategy...I understand what you're saying and like I said I think it was a hedge but I don't think they were really playing that card yet

CHAPTER 33 / 67 Discussion

Supply Chain Kinks and the "Broken Christmas" Narrative

CEOs of major retail suppliers report unprecedented delays and cost increases in the global supply chain, with shipping container prices jumping from $2,000 to over $20,000. The hosts predict that the government and media will blame the "unvaccinated" for "breaking Christmas" if shelves are empty. They highlight that the logistics nightmare is a combination of labor shortages and increased consumer spending.

supply chain· shipping containers· amazon· walmart· inflation

1:50:00 But when you have somebody like Rogan come out and then you have somebody like Aaron Rodgers come out. Time to accelerate It's like, damn it! We wanted at least four or five shots out this booster Yeah what your number? What your number? Right, what is your number Now we go to the supply chain Retail CEOs are telling consumers to start shopping for the holidays now. And this time, it's not a marketing technique For the first time there is kink in every link in the supply chain We've seen shutdowns in areas of China, shutdowns in warehousing and trucking facilities in the United States Couple logistics nightmare with strong consumer spending

1:50:43 four times higher than typical in July. Jay Foreman is the CEO of Basic Fun, which sells Care Bears, K'Nex, Tonka trucks and more to retailers like Amazon, Walmart and Kohl's. The transportation and the supply chain can't keep up with the demand. There are not enough containers there are not enough ships there's not enough trucks it's not a warehousing to hold everything that everybody wants to buy this year. The tight logistics makes the transportation of goods much more expensive Last year around this time, the typical container cost roughly just under $2,000 Right now we're seeing cost increases up over $20,000 per container

1:51:26 And each container we can fit about 10,000 units. And Ann Harper CEO and founder of OMG accessories uses around 200 containers per year. The inflated prices are costing her an extra $2 million to get her backpacks and accessories to retailers from Nordstrom to TJ Maxx. Yep this is where I think they're going to use the unvaccinated people okay We're gonna be the people that broke Christmas. Of course Yes, we're gonna be the people that broke Christmas because they need a Patsy

CHAPTER 34 / 67 Discussion

Black Friday Shortages and the Scapegoating of Workers

The hosts discuss the potential for civil unrest if retail stores are empty during the Black Friday shopping season. They argue that the government has encouraged people not to work, leading to a lack of staff to unload ships and stock shelves. They warn that the psychological impact of "ruining Christmas" for children could be a tipping point for the American public.

black friday· grocery stores· labor shortage· holiday shopping· civil unrest

1:52:10 This supply chain thing is a problem, it's been a problem. We've seen them taking folding chairs and actually unfolding them and putting them on shelves we've seen even them hanging cards of what was on the shelves excuse me They need a scapegoat and they're gonna use us for who broke the supply chain. If these people would only came to work, you know Christmas wouldn't have been ruined right? Well that's I think I heard our I think I heard both our Energy secretary and transportation Secretary say something to the effect of the only way this supply chain problem ends is when everyone's vaccinated

1:53:01 That's that yeah, cuz they want to blame the reason. They're not saying it because they believe there no I'm with you. I'm Strengthening the argument The real reason is because they've encouraged people not to work yes well this one of the real now was Now the slack has caught and caught up because as people commonly say and I don't know how true It is we only have about four or five days worth of food on on the shelves in grocery stores Um, when you have a Black Friday. Yeah that's gonna be interesting and people just go and buy out everything and you can't stock see I've worked just about every job imaginable And i've been a stock guy um not wall street but actually stocking shelves

1:53:48 And you gotta get those shelves stocked back up as fast as they get unloaded. Especially around Black Friday, so you have like pallets sitting in the middle of the floor of stuff ready to go on the shelves on anticipation... I'll tell ya one better Moe! Yeah? There's gonna be nothing on Black Friday because they're going to open early on Thursday and it's gonna get cleaned out Thursday night Then what?! Then we're gonna see some pretty angry people They're gonna blame us. Yes, of course of course if only you would have came to work Yep with but these clips I have are from weight like months ago when uh when the supply chain was not much to go black beginning in the month Maybe two months ago um I have about six clips from three different sources they're gonna blame us that if these people who just came to work none this will happen but

1:54:40 What we have to understand is how Christmas supports the rest of the year. Oh, it's it's that in America It's the time a year and you talk about mama bear now You know you want to talk about Mama B? Let him not let them babies not have no Christmas Yeah, this is gonna come there's gonna be a problem Come hook or crook and I can only speak for my culture oh I don't care what your economic status is, the baby's gotta have Christmas. There's something under the tree? There's a tree! First of all you got to have a tree. I don't care if it's family gotta pool in... It's like yeah you know how Teresa is and babies gotta have Christmas. You know what I'm saying when you're kicking the money and that's like every kid has to wake up with something under their tree for Christmas Y'all really want to play this game where there won't be no Christmas?! No

1:55:37 You thought those school meeting boards were bad. We've stampeded, we have traffic scotted people over you're saying Teddy Rupp's been saying and tickled me elbows. Yes. Somebody dies every Black Friday for being trampled every Black Friday at least one. And now you want to say the stores are empty? Is that really what you want to do and that's why they're pushing this thing. Get your Christmas shopping done early, get your Christmas shopping done early because they're trying to spread that out Because as humans do we always wait till last minute to go shopping. That's just the habit of Especially you know, especially humans with a penis this is what we do very well No, I'll gender it all gendered I know Last night that night before Christmas yeah, I just got to go there there they're there and toys are us Oh no, that's close Yeah, and if didn't because again like let me see if I can get us all done on Christmas Eve You know that kind of thing but

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The Great Reset and the Intentional Breaking of the Economy

The "Great Reset" theory from the World Economic Forum is discussed as a possible motive for allowing the economy to break. The hosts suggest that elites may be fine with empty shelves and economic chaos as a precursor to a total system reset. However, they argue that politicians may not fully understand the risks of this strategy, particularly the backlash from angry parents.

world economic forum· the great reset· empty shelves· political landscape· economic collapse

1:56:40 Just imagine if these stores are empty on the day after Black Friday. I mean, empty! Empty! I think it's possible yeah...I see you and it is very possible I laid out what i think and now we're going to listen to the next four or five clips, To see if it supports what my narrative is. Number 16 Typically when we bring in products from overseas It takes roughly about 30 days um...To get to our warehouse In California Right now with all the delays that were experiencing We are seeing anywhere from 6-8

1:57:18 plus weeks delay. Put it all together, empty shelves and higher prices are inevitable when 40 or 50 percent of the cost of the product is in the freight that's going to eventually have to either tilt over into the consumer with higher prices or in some cases suppliers will decide to stop producing some of these products because they can't bring them in profitably Carl, it's already an issue for back to school and Ann Harper warns this Black Friday consumers may not see the deep discounts that they're used to. The good news is because all the players in supply chain are working together to absorb these higher costs, the consumer should only see price increases between 3% and 15% on the high end. That if you can find what you're looking for. Yeah that may be a big if Courtney I know its dangerous to guess but how long might this supply chain nightmare last?

1:58:14 That's a great question, Carl. I asked so many people that question and most of the experts and people that are working through this are predicting at least through the spring of 2022 if not longer. Yeah, that's not going to get it. No. And you heard him say well you're gonna...and i want people to pay attention in this. I think we're gonna see Black Friday not a thing on a major scale because they can't allow that run on the stores to happen That's going to expose everything. In my thinking, if you have that and you can't replace back fast enough what the people came in bulk or came in impulse buying I think they're gonna have to say well we're not gonna have that many Black Friday sales. Here is the only reason I would maybe contradict The Great Reset That is the World Economic Forum That really is the less people-people

1:59:17 less people, more money. We want a great reset but you can't reset anything until something's completely broken so I unfortunately like your theory so much i think they will encourage the stores to be empty Friday. I think it would encourage the shelves to be empty. I really do and I don't disagree with you except for one reason is... Do they understand the ramifications of that? Like this is not gonna be just, oh well the store's empty I'm just gonna go home now. No! We've seen women harm each other physically over the last Tickle Me Elmo. Yeah but that plays into less people more for us. I'm a little more cynical. I think they totally have it in them and i think they know the risk and I think they're fine with it

2:00:19 But I think it's a miscalculation. That's my point, I'm not saying they won't do it...I'm just saying like, Ima go back to Chris Crick's Race Theory It seemed like a good idea to put pedophilic books in the library when you were game planning It seemed like a good idea and then wake up and say, well they're partying. Hold on hold on hold on okay so now let me just separate it so we need to separate the money people the less people more money people from the execution from the politicians politicians will kind of just do what they're guided to do and yes I don't think the politicians understand. Not at all, and they have no idea and that will certainly change political landscape in many places. That's why they're cutting their nose out despite their faiths. Yeah well I'm with you on that yes but that's politicians as the politicians I think the agenda is to have this happen I think the politicians are so stupid they're gonna go along with it

CHAPTER 36 / 67 Discussion

The Biological Drive of Motherhood and Saving Christmas

The hosts discuss the intense biological drive of mothers to ensure their children have a "magical" Christmas, regardless of the quality of the gifts. They suggest that the elites' lack of children may lead them to miscalculate how hard parents will fight to protect holiday traditions. The segment ends with a hope that the "spirit of Christmas" might actually be the force that saves society from overreach.

motherhood· biological response· consumerism· family values· jim carrey

2:01:22 Because you know why and this is completely speculation, completely speculation. But when you have a room full of aunts and uncles with no kids... Oh yeah! That's wrong Christmas I mean, because that's what it is. When I'm saying my aunts and uncle you see this archetype on Christmas commercials like be the best aunt be the best uncle buy your nieces and nephews exactly what they want right so they don't understand that pressure of buying your kids what they want on Christmas oh no most people have no kids That's their miscalculation okay I ring the bell for that Mama will drive to five stores

2:02:08 to find that one toy that their kids want. And it ain't, and I'm telling you is not going to be all well we get into you on the 27th. That ain't gonna work. So lay away! That is not gonna work at all. I mean I've been around Christmas long enough and I've been a father of four for 18 years now. You wan- like I said...you wanna make somebody make a mama mad? Mess up Christmas Well, it will also maybe to play the devil's advocate here. Maybe it will also be a bit of a wake-up call that we should be considering things that are really important even for Christmas and we may need to reset some more values in that regard because I understand and you're right Mama Bear will go anywhere to buy that one piece of plastic shit from China

2:03:07 Maybe mama bear needs to evaluate down the road not right away, but down the road is like was it really all worth that? Is that really what's gonna make my family happy and healthy and prosperous Yes Because his biological as my hope no I'm saying if you ask a question. Is it worthy yes because it's the biological response That the mother gets when their children being completely happy It has nothing to do about the plastic crap. We all know it's plastic overpriced crap, we get that! We stay up all night putting this plastic crap together so your kid or our kids can have that one magical day each year That's the high man! That is the high!

2:04:00 And they're playing with that. I'm telling you, okay? I'm just warning them. Oh no! I'm with you on that but i think it's going to go all the way there too stupid I hope they are and when the irony be that Christmas saves us all. Now you're talking, that would be Christmas save Christmas! Christmas save the world instead of how the world saved Christmas ooh I like it. It kind of fits with the story. Maybe we should write this screenplay get this in early I like a Jim Carrey he could do something in there I'm sure Have him play Nancy Pelosi, be beautiful.

CHAPTER 37 / 67 Discussion

The Economic Importance of Black Friday and Retail Survival

Black Friday is the day retail businesses traditionally move from "the red" (loss) to "the black" (profit). A boycott or lack of inventory during this period could result in over half a trillion dollars in unspent money, devastating the toy industry which sees 50% of its sales during the holidays. The hosts argue that if businesses fail to meet their goals this year, it will lead to massive layoffs and a downward economic spiral in 2022.

gdp· retail sales· toy industry· inventory· economic impact

2:04:42 Now we gotta get to the economic impact of the holidays. They call the day after Thanksgiving Black Friday because that's the day when retail sales swing from red, to black In other words it is the day when losses end and profits start rolling in But what if Americans decided for one holiday season not to buy a single thing? Exactly how bad would that actually be for the US economy Well, it probably comes as no surprise that both retail stores and e-commerce vendors would take a big hit. It's projected that a boycott on holiday gifts would amount to more than half trillion unspent dollars. It would be particularly blue Christmas for toy companies—almost half of all toy sales take place during those months!

2:05:28 So it's a big chunk of change, but the American economy is massive. The GDP is the combination of all the cars houses washing machines doctor visits mortgages and everything else sold in the US Altogether It comes to more than sixteen point eight trillion dollars just a fraction of that as holiday sales so then why do we make such a big deal about them? Hmm, okay. Now you understand why I mean you knew this already of course but for the people listening That's why Black Friday is Black Friday And really when you go, I don't know do you do much Christmas shopping? I mean, I think you've been out the game for a while. I think probably only got to get like one or two gifts. I am an excellent gift giver and I have changed...I've bettered my ways in my third marriage now I have more children to buy gifts for. Now i'm an orderer so I will order stuff but I rarely will go to a store but I'm on time

2:06:30 If you go to the stores, what people don't realize is they're selling all the crap that wouldn't sell all year. That's what Black Friday really is! It's like 32 inch TV for $99 dollars! It only has two buttons! It's been written off already! Completely written off merchandise yes and that's why they go from black... I mean from red to black But if you don't have that inventory there. Yeah, yeah, now this is why I'm getting back to the business folks if you wake up black Monday after Black Friday and you're still in the red? Yeah, you dead

2:07:12 Oh, mission failed. Less people group? You had one job! It sounds nice it sounds hot to say oh yeah we were willing to take the loss for the longer game no no nobody's willing to take the loss for a long game it sounds really cool but these money people they always want to win this is why they rigged the game And I don't think they really accounted for breaking Christmas. They broke Christmas and it didn't start this week or last week, is a total accumulation of not making goals not making goals not making ship goes not making ship goes now I can't build this game. I can't build that phone. I can't build this car. I can't let stuff to buy

2:08:14 Now people are just going to buy what was on the shelves, what would normally linger around for Black Friday. They're buying that crap up now. There's gonna be nothing left man this is not gonna work it's not gonna work is going to be horrible It's gonna be beautiful! Well yeah yes when people wake up That's what we need We need that jolt of Yeah you thought you could just go to the store and buy what you wanted huh? No don't work like that And the reason why I say this, my wife is a big holiday person. She loves them all she decorates for them all We had a Valentine's Day tree that I just I'll leave it there. Okie dokie Which is kind of cool you can leave the Christmas tree up for another month But that's but its people out here to look for the holiday You saw when they try to take Christmas out of Christmas? Oh no That became a problem Right

CHAPTER 38 / 67 Discussion

Diversity of Perspective and the Pre-Show of Thanksgiving

The lack of "institutional wisdom" in corporate rooms is cited as a reason for poor decision-making, as older employees are replaced by younger, cheaper staff. The hosts view the current "most expensive Thanksgiving ever" as a "pre-show" for the coming Christmas crisis. They emphasize that the emotional and economic weight of the holidays makes them a dangerous time for the government to apply pressure.

corporate diversity· institutional wisdom· thanksgiving· turkey shortage· inflation

2:09:11 So you trying to get rid of Christmas itself? Okay, I'm not harping on a point. I'm just trying to stress the importance and this is why y'all shouldn't consult me and Adam on these things before y'all go through with them! I could have been told you ruining Christmas is not a good plan." I love that phrase, been told ya'. I love that something about it because I heard from HOTEP, HOTEP been told you...I love that shit I love the new English. This is great. Well, we have! We try to tell people all the time

2:09:47 But we get the impact because we're parents, you know what of course I'm tell they don't get it They don't have and this is why you need they always talk about diversity This is why you gotta have diversity in the room. You had to have parents in the room You got to have older people in the room. You just can't have these and I've saw it coming in industry It's like these late 20 early 30 year olds They replace all the older guys and ladies with these people because it's cheaper. I get it, but what you lose in that transaction is perspective and I think it probably goes all the way up to a corporate. I'm sure it goes all the way at the Corporate America. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Bye Christmas! I don't even really celebrate Christmas oh yeah? Oh yeah okay um so I guess let's finish up with the economic impact too

2:10:44 So then why do we make such a big deal about them? For one thing, it's because consumer habits during the holidays tell us a lot about how people are doing overall. In 2013 the average consumer spent just north of $50,000 dollars a year on everything from entertainment and food to housing and insurance It is estimated that between 8-900 of those dollars are spent on holiday gifts Tracking how much consumers buy during the holidays can give economists insights into other habits, like whether they're saving money for a rainy day or spending more on entertainment and travel. The other big reason we care about holiday sales is because of all the short-term jobs created from November through January. Retail stores increase their workforce by almost 800,000 people! And shipping companies will add more than 100,000 on top of that

2:11:33 They're largely low-wage positions, but these jobs signal the strength of the overall economy. And they help people afford to buy a few gifts of their own." So you want any more jobs with less workers? Yes! What could go wrong?! Can't... can you really tell me that they consciously gamed all this I mean now the people at top i'll give you that like break I agree there's a contingency to break everything But I think there's a lot of levels in between there that just are just going along with the plan and don't realize what's gonna about to happen here. Now you're telling me, I can't work? So now I'm on your side here. I like this because i'm all about the 40 percent and yeah that's so the people who are just going along is the forty percent and Christmas could be a tipping point

2:12:28 They're getting you ready with Thanksgiving already. It's gonna be the most expensive Thanksgiving ever, you know? Yes, yeah... You may not be able to get a turkey! Right, which people don't really dig Thanksgiving like that I mean it's big but not- it ain't Christmas Christmas is the king of all holidays Yeah we gotta this is the warm up game This is the pre show And it's emotional. Yeah, I'm gonna speak it for myself here you we all get the holiday spirit It is a real thing You're gonna break that okay let me see how that works out for you so now we have CNN

CHAPTER 39 / 67 Discussion

Pete Buttigieg and the 90-Day Supply Chain Sprint

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg discussed a "90-day sprint" to unclog the supply chain at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. The hosts point out that this timeline extends into January, meaning many holiday goods will not arrive in time for Christmas. They discuss the psychological impact on children when "Santa" fails to deliver promised gifts due to global logistics failures.

pete buttigieg· department of transportation· port of los angeles· ups· santa claus

2:13:06 They got Buddha Gage, I think Budajedge. How do you want to pronounce it? The new father Budajedge He's gonna talk about the supply chain and issues with Christmas So holiday expectations management as we're looking at... I guess we should say he went from Mayor Pete of a small-town Indiana to Transportation Secretary. I love it! So holiday expectations management as we're looking at these supply chain issues, how bad are they going to get for Americans? And i'm talking specifically you know leading here into the December holidays where people are relying on getting goods on getting presents

2:13:49 Well, I think there's always been two kinds of Christmas shoppers. There are the ones who have all their lists completed by Halloween and then there are people like me who show up at the mall on Christmas Eve if you're in that latter bucket obviously there is going to be more challenges but we are also working right now with private sector players who own and operate most of US supply chains to find ways to ease the bottlenecks that are impacting everything from consumer goods, to construction goods in this country. This is a largely private sector system and a global one at that But there are a lot of steps that we can take as an administration, as an honest broker. That's what the President has directed us to do and that is part of why were gathering right here at the White House with leaders from the ports of LA and Long Beach, labor leaders and private sector companies like FedExes UPSs Walmarts

2:14:41 others who play that role on everything that happens between when something arrives on a ship and when it gets to the shelf so you can get into your home. So, you're doing this 90-day sprint? This is what the administration is doing to address these supply chain issues but when you do the math on that of course that takes us into January. That is after December after the holidays should Americans be prepared should they know, they're not going to get their packages. They're not going to get their goods in time for Christmas if they're not doing it right now? Yeah that's the question. That's the question all right To put this in perspective I've seen UPS trucks on Christmas Eve night still delivering Sure! This has global ramifications We got kids being woke up till there is no Santa

2:15:38 In mass. I know it sounds like i'm like over selling this but, do you realize we lie to our kids? And tell them that some fat guy. Yeah, that's a good perspective Do you still have any kids who are believers? No I was five or six when it got ruined for me. I remember how disappointed my mom was But that's the that's the logic behind the mandate and in jabs as well where if I took it Why don't you have to say yeah, there's no Santa. Yep Well why you why you get didn't think they're Santa and the older kids usually ruin it for him but now You're talking about in mass wake up of mom I wrote Santa He said he was gonna bring me a Lego set and it's not here And what are you gonna tell Oh Santa be on the 27th baby? When when the container comes in from the North Pole

2:16:40 It don't work like that and you can hear it in her voice. She's like, you know that's behind- That's in January these companies live and die off of making that Christmas day shit because really it doesn't matter after that I mean if you don't even that's for parents too If I didn't get it by Christmas ain't going out to the 27th So Moe let's just keep it real here for a second Has Mrs. Fax come to you and said Let me tell you something, this is gonna be a real problem. I can't get the shit for these kids these years and we're gonna have to deal with this has this already this conversation already taken place or she's still good? Mrs. Facts started shopping at the end of September. Okay! Before the supply chain fell apart You aint going to ruin her Christmas bro, that is not... That is not an option. And thats how alot of moms are. That is NOT AN OPTION Roger that yeah copy that yep

CHAPTER 40 / 67 Discussion

Port Bottlenecks and California Climate Regulations

The bottleneck in the supply chain is identified as being on the American side, specifically at California ports. The hosts argue that strict climate regulations for trucks and a lack of workers are the primary causes. They also touch on the tension between labor unions and the push for port automation, suggesting that some of the slowdown may be an intentional exercise of power by workers.

california· trucking· climate regulations· automation· labor unions

2:17:39 Yeah, I mean my kids are all much older. So yeah so you're right...I don't have this experience anymore and of course they never had it because everything was always certainly in the 80s or the 90's growing up there is everything you could get anything to order everything not a problem. So i see what your saying Because I have a different game too because you used to could tell kid when i was a kid. I didn't have it right now It's like mom, it's on amazon right here Yeah, it's already in the basket. I put in the basket for he just gotta click checkout So no This is

2:18:20 Got you proportions man. I'm not overselling it and you can hear the conversation they're having on a global level They understand the importance of Christmas Psychologically, you heard the bottom line they look at see how people spend around the holidays How do you gonna spend for the next year? Because that's kind of like saying, because this is just going to my dad bag for a minute. If it's been a good year the kids gonna get some extra you know what I'm saying? Hey spend a good year let's go ahead and get that what we thought we couldn't get and then the economic people look at like hey Moe has spent a little extra this year he must be making out lets make more for next year

2:19:02 But now it's gonna be like, whoa Moe is not spending because he can't. He literally can't spend it. I gotta hold all my provisions and they're gonna look at well like let's make less let's lay off people Let's downsize that has a ripple effect So I guess we can get to the second part of this CNN clip. Alright, back to Buttigieg. Well let me be clear there is more throughput than there has ever been in other words so we are processing right now as a country record levels of containers and other goods coming into our ports already the issue is that this there's even more demand then the supply chain can support remember we are relying on supply chains that were built generations ago it's one of the reasons why

2:19:50 this entire year we have been talking about and working on infrastructure, and are eager to see Congress act to get this infrastructure deal through. You know it includes $17 billion for our ports which is a level of support federal support for ports that we've never seen before Of course that's a long-term concern there are short term steps that we can take too like expanding the hours at our biggest ports working with terminal operators, with truckers to get that flow of goods. Think about it when you see these pictures of those ships waiting at anchor waiting outside the ports that means the ships are already there so its everything after that we have to work to unclog its they're not being spaces for the ships at the berths is the containers being backed up and that goes through our supply chain through the rails through the trucks again all the way to the store shelf

2:20:40 Yeah, the ripple effects are wide and we're learning they're very expensive as well. That guy... The bottleneck is here on our side He made a very valid point if this that the tankers are lined up in port it can't be unloaded It's not from China to here problem Nope! You gotta get those things unloaded and get them back in the water and going back to be filled back up again The problem is you don't have workers Well, that has a number of reasons. And the main bottleneck is California ports and truckers who literally cannot even operate in the state of California because of climate change regulations for their vehicles and for themselves... There's a lot of truckers who are just saying I'm not interested in driving trucks anymore because it's become unmanageable. The government

CHAPTER 41 / 67 Discussion

The Wire Parallels and the Power of Logistics Workers

Drawing parallels to the television show "The Wire," the hosts discuss the power dynamics of dock workers and the corruption inherent in port operations. They argue that despite the push for AI and automation, the "power is with the people" who physically move goods. They suggest that if logistics workers "sit on their hands," the entire global economic system fails to meet its goals.

the wire· dock workers· corruption· logistics· ai

2:21:43 measuring you, tracking you every single step of the way. Now they have said the Biden administration as far as I know that there will be no mandate for truckers. How convenient! People are going from state to state to state No mandate for them And now let's go back and revisit what we're talking about UPS The Postal Service You're gonna get rid of a bunch of people and then put this kind of pressure on them? God, okay. Moe you bum me out man No Christmas will save us I want to bring up one point before we move onto the next clip You being a wire watcher recent wire watchers What was one of the power structures on the wire

2:22:42 Well shit, what do you mean? How many do you want me to mention? I mean the one that would be pertinent to this conversation. The docs! The what? The docs...the guys on the doc Oh yeah totally Oh yeah. You think this ain't on purpose? Absolutely, absolutely I mean it's union and shenanigans it's who's paying who...I know that people who know the way on the docks they're going in with their own truck with their own carrier you know the chassis they're going in with ladders and everything they're paying off the right people they're getting their own stuff unloading it gettin

2:23:21 Getting containers on their own chassis. They have to do it themselves, but they have to know the way oh yeah The corruption is complete Absolutely that's the that's the all that's the more people group No, you're not gonna shut us down You're not gonna what nope no gas engines know what okay? All right Let's see how that works out for you Yeah And in its will sit on our hands trust me this this is a Lizard people, pay attention. Come closer I know you listening. Okay all right lizard people here you go special message The power is with the people we run this y'all don't understand this logistics that's why i've worked in logistics all my life I'm saying from packing boxes to warehouse work to all way up to what I do now and quality and um uh quality control and um it's quality assurance

2:24:19 If we sit on our hands, you don't make your goal. If we want you to make your goal, you make your goal." They don't understand... they're banking on this AI and all this? Okay! Alright! So to extrapolate what you're saying are you telling me that there's a concerted effort from the dock workers or whoever organizes the dock workers to make everything apparent by slowing this down? I'm just going off my wire knowledge As good as any As far as, if I got that kind of power? If i got that kind of juice and you're trying to leverage me an impact my business. Okay let them pile up right we have this kind of attitude when I work their fast food You want to be a jerk to me as the manager let the drive-thru back up I don't care you pay me 575 hour what do I care Right I'll walk out here across street get another job

2:25:20 So that's what they don't understand. They think they got his leverage, but they don't understand you have more vested in this than I do and when I speak for the worker or I speak for people. Wow! That would be truly beautiful all right You know see it already? It is happening before our eyes because he gave a tail there. It is backing up at the port also not a production issue No its not It's somebody somewhere that says no, I don't want to do it and i won't do it and you can't make me do it. Well let's see...it is the California ports California just saying. Just conveniently Baltimore Florida said bring them here we don't have a problem yeah so it's just amazing how it was just like...and they actually found a way to say oh no that can't that's not gonna work ah no Florida makes no sense there was some noise about that I was reading well I'm sure the boss in california got on the phone with the boss of florida hey hey step

2:26:21 stepping on my toes here. We're trying to work something out." Well, they were trying to work something big out that's for sure this is a big one. So I'll wrap this up with before we go into the donation segment with... This is the dumbest idea ever heard Max vaccine mandates and unemployment More companies are now requiring COVID-19 vaccinations and with that comes employees who will refuse to get the shot. ABC 10 News reporter Mimi Alcala gives us a look at whether workers who quit or get fired over the mandate can qualify for unemployment benefits

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Unemployment Benefits and the Violation of Company Rules

Legal analysts explain that employees fired for refusing a vaccine mandate may be ineligible for unemployment benefits because they are technically "violating a company rule." In California, the Employment Development Department (EDD) determines eligibility on a case-by-case basis, but benefits are generally reserved for those who lose work through "no fault of their own." The hosts describe this as an "evil" tactic to leave people without a safety net during the holidays.

unemployment insurance· california edd· wrongful termination· legal analysis· company policy

2:25:20 So that's what they don't understand. They think they got his leverage, but they don't understand you have more vested in this than I do and when I speak for the worker or I speak for people. Wow! That would be truly beautiful all right You know see it already? It is happening before our eyes because he gave a tail there. It is backing up at the port also not a production issue No its not It's somebody somewhere that says no, I don't want to do it and i won't do it and you can't make me do it. Well let's see...it is the California ports California just saying. Just conveniently Baltimore Florida said bring them here we don't have a problem yeah so it's just amazing how it was just like...and they actually found a way to say oh no that can't that's not gonna work ah no Florida makes no sense there was some noise about that I was reading well I'm sure the boss in california got on the phone with the boss of florida hey hey step

2:26:21 stepping on my toes here. We're trying to work something out." Well, they were trying to work something big out that's for sure this is a big one. So I'll wrap this up with before we go into the donation segment with... This is the dumbest idea ever heard Max vaccine mandates and unemployment More companies are now requiring COVID-19 vaccinations and with that comes employees who will refuse to get the shot. ABC 10 News reporter Mimi Alcala gives us a look at whether workers who quit or get fired over the mandate can qualify for unemployment benefits

2:26:58 With Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine getting full approval, more private employers are now adding company policies requiring their workers to be fully vaccinated by specific dates unless they have a cleared medical or religious exemption. When an employee refuses to get vaccinated in response to employer mandate what the employee is doing is violating a company rule. Some employees will choose to quit or get fired instead of getting a vaccine, but legal analyst Danny and says violating a company rule could mean no unemployment insurance benefits for those individuals as they search for new jobs under both circumstances the violation of a company rule an employee generally is not entitled to unemployment if that's the reason for their dismissal in California there are

2:27:47 several eligibility requirements when applying for unemployment benefits. The state's Employment Development Department, better known as EDD says unemployment claims are determined on a case-by-case basis by looking at the facts specific to an individual claim but benefits are generally available to those who lose work through no fault of their own. spokesperson for ADD tells me when someone quits or is fired and then seeks unemployment benefits, we conduct a phone interview with both the claimant and employer to determine if the person is eligible for benefits. If an applicant quit their job they must prove there was good cause for leaving in that they made all reasonable attempts to keep that job. This is bad optics. Yeah you're going to fire people are leave them lingering some cases

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Severance Pay and the Dehumanization of Fired Workers

The hosts contrast standard business practices—where even underperforming employees often receive severance—with the current trend of firing people for medical choices with zero compensation. They describe the denial of both severance and unemployment as a "lowest of the low" tactic. The discussion characterizes the architects of these policies as having a "Scrooge-like" or "Satanic" disregard for human welfare.

severance pay· humane business· scrooge· beelzebub· workplace ethics

2:28:38 around the holidays and then no unemployment either? Yeah, this is... This is the evil part. And we were talking about it earlier. This unemployment thing It's like- It's the worst- It's the lowest of all low Even when you want to fire somebody because they're not performing You typically give them two weeks You give them a little bit or if they've been working at the company X amount of years, it's you know so many week and you know a week per year whatever. And that's just normal

2:29:15 Business that's expected. I've had seven eight hundred employees in my life No, no you're talking about severance Yeah, I know but no no they're talking about the government issue Unemployment that we paid into like people like myself Oh, no, and oh and I understand I understand the company but the companies are stopping that well I don't think the companies are stopping it because I have on good knowledge some companies Are saying well? We won't contested But did you heard from that clip they're saying well if you got fired for breaking a company rule ie not taking the jab Then your don't even qualify for it. So that puts it back on the government not the employer No, I understand. I'm just saying from a humane perspective Even when someone screws up I've fired people on the spot but I still gave him two weeks severance

2:30:10 And then didn't get in their way of getting unemployment? No, not at all. That's what I'm saying they're going even... They ain't not even saying no severance that'd have been bad enough! Yeah They're saying you know what You won't even get what you paid into it How does that work how does that system work What is the company's role Is that purely you got fired therefore, I mean is it the terms of unemployment? It can't be because you left obviously. Can it be if you were fired because you stole from the company can you still get unemployment then? If you brought on yourself kind of like you know stolen or whatever did something like that The company can tell

2:30:50 the unemployment office, employment office. We say unemployment office but they say look he was a jerk I'm not going to pay his unemployment and then well they contested it you don't get it that's how it works but now there is putting in trying shaping away like if even if the company says okay yeah he left because of COVID well oh he did he? Oh wait he didn't qualify for it right This is very sick. It's not like I said, it's bad enough that you fire somebody because of their choice then on top of that you don't give them any severance and you take away Christmas. And you do it all around Christmas holiday Thanksgiving all this stuff

2:31:42 And then you say, oh yeah. Oh yeah no unemployment either Mo it's obvious we know who is behind this Who hates people? Who hates Christmas the most Satan Not being a man of church going man myself seems pretty obvious This is past Scrooge Yeah I know this is past the Grinch past everything In the Grish West Green. This is Beelzebub man, this shit is no good So I did but it's dumb Yeah It's dum- Why would you take it there? Well again okay okay Okay Again

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Amazon Garage Delivery and the Rise of Anarchy

Amazon's new service that allows delivery drivers to place packages inside a customer's garage is discussed as a response to rising package theft. The hosts argue that when the government stops people from working and eating, an increase in crime and anarchy is inevitable. They suggest that these "convenience" services are actually measures to mitigate the chaos caused by failing social policies.

amazon· garage delivery· package theft· civil unrest· crime rate

2:32:28 The people doing this are in a state of hypnosis. You have to keep reminding yourself, the stupider it seems the more likely they are to be all-in on it I didn't make an up This is what the professors tell me about this mass formation Yeah, I'm just saying if your goal is to do this quietly Do you know what? And I must say that we can slide on into the donation segment Do you know what this is going to do to the crime rate? Do you know what the optics of this are gonna be?" Yeah, it's gonna be really nice. And you notice Amazon rolled out that new thing and we could put it in your garage! Just give us your garage... A lot of jacked open garages No, that's their new thing to keep it from sitting on your front porch Give us your garage Alright yeah let us in Let us see your house We'll put it in your garage because we know there's a lot of stealing going on

2:33:30 And hey, rightfully so. I mean you stop people from eating this is what you get? You want chaos? You want anarchy okay? I'm trying to hold civility. Oh, you know what we say about the thin pane of glass Yeah, I'm trying to keep that from breaking That's all I'm trying to do here cuz But it ain't, it's not good. And what's great about this white man and this black man is that right now we are solving things, we are coming down to the what's happening. It has nothing do with race! This has to do with dads! Oof... This is a very important MoFax episode and I want to make sure that everyone knows

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Value for Value Funding and Episode 70 Producer Credits

The hosts thank the executive and associate executive producers who funded episode 70 through the "Value for Value" system. Major donors include Jennifer Dorney, Steve Marchi, and Judy Sigsbee. They encourage listeners to support the show via Bitcoin, the "MoFundMe" website, or new Podcasting 2.0 apps to ensure the program remains free from advertiser influence and deplatforming.

value for value· bitcoin· podcasting 2.0· jennifer dorney· steve marchi· mofundme

2:34:32 that your support is going to probably be even more important than ever and the value for value system is all that we can rely on in order to maintain this complete free speech. There's not a lot of advertisers that would be happy to touch this conversation or any of the 69 other ones we've had, probably so it's really important that you continue to produce We are also shoring up some systems here. We're getting some stuff we've already been in anticipation of things coming I think we already got our crap together, so to speak or on a regular schedule We've got the lost tapes on our alternating works at weeks You know we've got a real product here And we really especially Mo is really putting in the work for the value and we need to get as much back as possible So we can all have a Christmas next year but first

2:35:24 Let's thank this week, this episode's executive and associate executive producers for episode number 70 of MoFax with Adam Curry. And we kick it right off with Jennifer Dorney who is episode number 70's... Paula! Shotcaller 20-inch blades on the Impala! Jennifer comes in with $327.33 Got a wonder maybe she has a little bit of info about this number incredible show She says I went back to listen from show one. Oh, man That's so cool and also Dreb Scott is working on oops Sorry is working on chapters and transcripts all the way back to show 1 So you'll even have reference You can use your podcasting 2.0 app new podcast apps calm to search

2:36:10 Since I came in around show 52, that did take a minute. Yeah understand this is no way to commensurate with the value I have found in the show but it's a start 27 is an angel number there we go and you two are just that in my book keep shining the light in the dark places We can only heal what we are willing to reveal. Oh, I like that one Love you both god bless love and light Jen Dorney 27 thank you very much Jennifer appreciate it Steve Marchi 133.33 our second executive producer for episode number 70 Moe and Adam loving the show and lost tapes thanks what you guys do shout out to Tiger Auntie and one more for the dead beats in Signal they know who they are if I could, I guess we should probably just uh

2:36:55 You're a deadbeat. For those guys, they know who they are if I could let me get a woosah with the side of goat if you have it and some mo karma for the fam remember this is not a COVID show he says Sir Steve thank you very much sir Steve. You've got Mo Karma 112 and a half from Judy Sigsbee, being thankful every day even if sometimes it's grudgingly so feeds my soul and feeds the positive connections between all beings. This is what she writes it's akin to the mycelium in the forest floor that connects the trees and can spread and communicate across thousands of acres

2:37:37 In that light, my value donation is playing off the traditional date of Thanksgiving this month. I am so very thankful for what Mo and Adam have brought into my awareness and my heart thanks to you gentlemen your contribution is beyond a number value and we appreciate you Judy. Our first... Strong strong in the Facts family That's oh okay very strong First associate executive producer is, let's see Chris Bailey. $70 I don't see a note from him but we appreciate it Chris and send it after the fact if you need to also 70 which of course are the show number donations gets a separate credit for Gagana Yankova

2:38:16 And also show number donation from John Conforth $70 who says I've recently been remiss supporting your so so please accept my multi-episode dedouching. Well we call that de-dead beating over here and you are Congratulations, you're no longer a deadbeat. As Hawaii continues to commit economic suicide and medical tyranny I've preferred to travel to the free states on the mainland during my last jaunt i finally caught a case of this rona that i've been hearing so much about well at least that's what their test told me fortunately my experience was mild and mostly inconvenient

2:38:53 and I have an idea. Let's mandate that everyone in the country has to listen to this podcast or they will lose their job but never be able to eat again! I'm confident that we'll get at least 99% compliance in 14 days or less, let's go Brandon!" Yes, that right John. Mandates work. Kyle Stefano, our last episode donation producer for this show. 70 really enjoyed episode 69 thanks and love oh from Dame girl Kyle I'm sorry not Kylie Adam I did blow it! I did it again! Oh you blew it again! I did it again! Kyle...oh man I'm sorry now I'm not even gonna edit that I will take my punishment then we continue with a Swazilnaf 6969 from Benjamin Nidus once I knew once

2:39:42 Len Horowitz came up, it was going to be an epic episode. Yes! Thank you for that. Philip B Brown 69 and 69 for episode 69 so since I came in late For both of you we'll put you in the 70s for this week. And he says 73's KI5 NTY 73 K5 Alpha Charlie Charlie Zach Welch $55 That will be the... let me see also associate executive producership thank you for radicalizing me And he has a couple of emojis I guess which didn't translate on the spreadsheet. Thank you very much, Zach Graham man Gange

2:40:21 He's in Arcata, California. $50 thanks thank you very much Megan Emery $50 Thank you for your thought-provoking content and lessons in humanizing My boyfriend and I both listen to every episode this has served as an excellent jump off point for many conversations We both appreciate the time and effort You put into the public service that you provide and hope you continue to grow well with producers like you Megan and your boyfriend you bet David T Vargas 50 you two are doing great. Thank you Adam for bringing Mo and his talent to our attention Thank You mo for your deep dives any advice for a 28 year old in debt safe And my advice what I do is I just buy little pieces of Bitcoin and keep it for a long time

2:41:03 and then our last, our last associate executive producer for episode number 70 we have more people to thank a little bit later on is David Foxx and he says I'm sharing some bread with that MoFax dude. And that's $50 dollars and we appreciate your donation David and all of our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode number seventy of KnowfMofax with Adam Curry remember more important than ever we really need to We need the support. We're going to need a lot more of it moving forward and you can also do a great service to the show by getting more people to listen, getting them involved turning them on to it and eventually of course calling him out as deadbeats in helping and getting him to help support the show as well so thank all of you remember its value for value we need your time your talent and your treasure go to MoFax.com to find out all about the show and donate you can go direct that donate page

2:41:59 Mofundme.com, M-O-U-F-U-N-D-M-E dot com thanks again for producing episode number 70. Anything you can contribute, I know it's gonna be a weird paradox if money is going to be tight. But there are other ways that you could help making small clips of the show posting on your social media Promoting the show telling people to check out Lost Tapes is a lot of stuff yes artwork

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The Selective Service Draft and Peacetime Conscription

The hosts compare current vaccine mandates to the 1940 Selective Service Act, which established the first peacetime military draft in American history. They discuss the psychological impact on young men turning 18 who must register for the draft. Mo Facts suggests that the draft is the only historical precedent of similar magnitude to the current medical mandates.

selective service· military draft· franklin d. roosevelt· 1940· world war ii

2:42:36 There's a bunch of stuff you can do and all of it is going to be more than needed in these coming days. And even if you get a new podcast, a 2.0 podcast, You can stream value in real time keeps it very manageable but hey we're just asking for value We can't determine what your value is. You may have no money and could do something else for us or you may have a lot It doesn't matter whatever the value is to you Just jump on board and support Lot of talent people with a lot of free time. So just about where you can Let's see, will we stop it? We're back to FDR I think so we're back to FDR so as doing putting the show together and then being what day this fell on being the day before Veterans Day I had to think like What is the last mandate that we've had that can be comparison in comparison to this?

2:43:33 And I would say it's the Selective Service Draft. Ha ha ha, nailed it! In September 1940 the Selective Service Act was passed and for the first time in history American boys were being drafted during peacetime You have the confidence and gratitude and love of your countrymen We are all with you in the task which enlists the services of all Americans, the task of keeping the peace in this new world of ours. President Roosevelt announced draft order number one, the first peacetime draft number ever to be drawn. Drawn by the Secretary of War is serial number 158

2:44:27 You know, when Bush invaded Iraq the first time? Mm-hmm. Desert Storm I think? Yes! I remember...I don't know if you had to do this but I had to register for the Selective Service. Everybody has to do that when they turn 18 Yeah... I had to re-register for Selective Service Oh, okay. I mean... Did you have that? I was only 10 Right okay so i remember that because my company might have even been public at that point and it was just the weirdest thing like what what I got it they could actually take me and put me in a desert

2:45:17 Mm-hmm. That was that was a weird thing ma'am, and it's a weird thing for every man when they turn 18 like here Here's your card yeah, is that funny? It's the card use your card Let's make sure you get that card filled out there uh Yeah So you can say do what you're supposed to do in serve your duty which I brought this up Because I think that's the closest thing that we can equate this to and i'm going somewhere with this But this was the beginning of it. I think 1940 was the first time they ever start to draft people in peacetime Uh, and and what we're gonna do is listen to another fdr clip just give some context to it but that opened up the door for later drafts so 24

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Patriotic Duty and the Optics of the Draft

Historical footage of the 1940 draft highlights how the government used the "optics" of wealthy individuals like Winthrop Rockefeller enlisting to encourage the general public. The hosts note that while black men stepped up to fight in hopes of gaining social standing, the relationship remained "rocky." They contrast the clear "enemy" of the 1940s with the "invisible enemy" of the current pandemic.

winthrop rockefeller· elvis presley· black soldiers· nationalism· civic duty

2:46:07 America's most ethical call to arms and preparedness. Millions of men from 21 to 36 line up and sign-up throughout the nation. Here is Winfred Rockefeller, son of John D Jr., answer the call to national service! And well, if it isn't Maxie Bear ready to go into training again. And no kidding! Well not much... The rodeo stars sign up hoping they don't draw the Iron Cavalry One of the first young men to register is Warren Pershing son of our famous wartime commander All races creeds and colors line-up for national defense In Chinatown the rush is just as great and enthusiastic as elsewhere

2:46:52 Harlem, too keeps the registrars busy. With the safety of America threatened all Americans the humble and mighty willingly embrace selective service from a White House comes a definite promise by the president to those answering their nation's preparedness call Our present program will train 800,000 additional men this coming year and somewhat less than a million men each year thereafter. It is a program, obviously of defensive preparation and of defensive preparation only to the 16 million young men who register today I say that democracy is your cause. Yeah it's two reasons why I chose to go this direction with this one when there's a real risk

2:47:49 For a real threat, American men have no problem stepping up. Agreed because we understand what's at stake even in those times this FDR was the first president that let black soldiers fight alongside white soldiers in the modern era I mean it happened in the civil war but not to this extent and he won't allow to cache because understanding was for black man if we go and fight and show we're brave Then that should, you know gain us more standing when we go back home. It didn't! Was a pipe dream but yeah... It was a pipe dream but it nevertheless even people that were oppressed in those times were willing to go fight for this country even though they had a For lack of better word rocky relationship with the country Yeah So

2:48:46 But now it's get jabbed. Why? Because we're, it's a threat, it's an enemy you know okay so why is this not a shared responsibility here you saw even in this clip Rockefeller Sun was brought out there to even give the optics of anybody could get drafted yeah we forced Elvis Elvis was when your eyes I think was a Mickey Mantle or well, we know We know who didn't go later much. Later. Who's that? Muhammad Ali Oh yeah. I mean oh yeah, but it's a lot of baseball players that gave up everything So it was just to understand if there's a real enemy then will step up but now is

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The Concept of a "Vaccine Draft" for Global Equality

The hosts propose a satirical "Vaccine Draft" to test the sincerity of those who claim everyone must be vaccinated for the "global good." They argue that if the threat is truly existential, there should be no exceptions for politicians, billionaires, or their children. They suggest that a lottery-style system for vaccination would quickly reveal who is truly "all-in" on the policy.

vaccine draft· bill gates· world health organization· nationalism· global citizen

2:49:29 That's one of the knots, like oh you don't want to do your civic duty to roll up your sleeves and get the jab. They never really played the patriotic angle that hard and I think the reason is because of this comparison saying this is patriotic would be a little too close to Trump words? A little too fresh to use the P word so they couldn't really push that they boxed their self in, but it also would be nationalism. So it's to be a global citizen and get jabbed. And we do have this narrative and meme going around from Gates from the World Health Organization and mainly from the progressive caucus saying you know this is racist its unfair of the whole world needs to be vaccinated and if the whole world isn't vaccinated guess what

2:50:23 We'll never get rid of COVID and Christmas will never return. That's the narrative, but if that's the case then if that's where we're at with it let's start a vaccine draft! Let's go! If everybody gotta get it let's go yeah let's line up everybody got to roll their sleeves now we get to see Who goes really about it and who's giving lip service? Everybody name goes in it. We open up for the babies them to put the babies into draft, yeah unless just in the womb. The baby is in the womb I bet you if you floated that idea It would be totally different the response but if we're facing an enemy like no other let's roll up the sleeves a little baby sleeves too the onesies sleeves and let's just jab everybody

2:51:14 That's a sick thought. That way everybody is carrying the load equally and there's no, well I'm an entrepreneur independent you know kind of guy so i don't have to take it or I'm a politician I don't have to take it right? Even John McCain had to go in Exactly. Right, even George Bush. Even George Bush. Yeah no did he? No Junior didn't. No I don't think Junior was yeah junior was horrible Okay, okay. Yeah junior was I don't know if he was drafted but he was in military service it was Okay So that's where we're at with so this 1940 thing opened up the 1960s draft for the Vietnam War as captured in clip 25 a draft lottery alive report on tonight's picking of the birthdates for the draft and

2:52:10 And now a page from our Sunday morning almanac. December 1st, 1969 50 years ago today the night of America's first military draft lottery since 1942 With the war in Vietnam as a backdrop and the futures of some 850,000 young men on the line, the lottery featured a bin containing 366 capsules. One for each possible birthday. The order in which their birthdays were drawn from that bin would determine the order in which those young men would be drafted first chosen first to

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The 1969 Draft Lottery and Arbitrary Selection

On December 1st, 1969, the United States held its first military draft lottery since WWII to determine which young men would be sent to the Vietnam War. 366 capsules containing birthdates were drawn to establish the order of induction. The hosts compare the arbitrary nature of the draft lottery to the "arbitrary" implementation of vaccine mandates across different sectors of society.

vietnam war· draft lottery· 1969· alexander pirnie· birthdates

2:51:14 That's a sick thought. That way everybody is carrying the load equally and there's no, well I'm an entrepreneur independent you know kind of guy so i don't have to take it or I'm a politician I don't have to take it right? Even John McCain had to go in Exactly. Right, even George Bush. Even George Bush. Yeah no did he? No Junior didn't. No I don't think Junior was yeah junior was horrible Okay, okay. Yeah junior was I don't know if he was drafted but he was in military service it was Okay So that's where we're at with so this 1940 thing opened up the 1960s draft for the Vietnam War as captured in clip 25 a draft lottery alive report on tonight's picking of the birthdates for the draft and

2:52:10 And now a page from our Sunday morning almanac. December 1st, 1969 50 years ago today the night of America's first military draft lottery since 1942 With the war in Vietnam as a backdrop and the futures of some 850,000 young men on the line, the lottery featured a bin containing 366 capsules. One for each possible birthday. The order in which their birthdays were drawn from that bin would determine the order in which those young men would be drafted first chosen first to

2:52:48 to serve. Congressman Alexander Perny of New York drew the first number. September 14th Capsule by capsule, date by date, the board filled up December 6 finally concluding with June 8th as number 366. Statisticians soon cried foul, arguing that birth dates near the end of the year had inadvertently been clustered toward the top of the bin making them more likely to be drawn first. January 31st February 16 March 8 Fair or not, as events played out only men with birthdays numbered 1 through 195

2:53:31 were ultimately called to duty. Men with the remaining 171 birthdays were home free. America ended the military draft in 1973 and has relied on voluntary enlistment ever since, but for many of the thousands who watched the drawing with bated breath memories of that draft lottery telecast remain as vivid as ever. So we need a Vax Draft I'm dead serious. I have the little Pfizer of five two capsules is perfect you're saying Like in there, you got all the birthdays and then I'm being facetious But here what I'm saying is if you want to make it fair then that way we know Mm-hmm today's your birthday? Oh, you got this the destined that was a date drawn today You gotta get jab

2:54:30 Everybody born that day gotta get the jab. No exceptions, no... If we're fighting a true enemy it's everybody's duty and service to go and get the jab So what you're saying is It's of note It's noteworthy That they chose the manner in which they are doing it because Of course its not really an enemy that you can mobilize everybody around or And it's arbitrary It's totally arbitrary. This is the whole thing, yeah So what you're saying is that... In this case it would be if your birthday was January 4th Right but you're saying they are just disingenuous because they didn't go this route? Because this is the clear thing to do? This is the clear- If you were saying we have an enemy We have to- It's a president's fort Yeah Uh, we did in 40s and 60s Um That way we know Cause that's the whole point Everybody isn't pulling their weight WE KNOW

2:55:32 billionaires and not don't have their vax we see what happens. Well, no I mean what we saw is we saw political people do it we saw the president the vice-president you know we don't know if it was real or we don't know what's in there in if he was getting saline if the needles really going in I mean that who knows but they're really only a couple of politicians uh... we didn't see the ones we'd really wanted to see And we certainly didn't see, you know I think you're right. If it was a true sincere campaign You would have had Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and Bulenski and Fauci and everybody lined up in the gym. I want their kids! Yeah, their kids...I want whatever birthday it is

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Vietnam Veterans and the "Baby Killer" Stigma

The hosts discuss the mistreatment of Vietnam veterans who returned to a country that called them "baby killers." They highlight the high percentage of black men on the front lines who lacked the means to dodge the draft through college or moving to Canada. This history of being "thrown away" by the government is cited as a reason for modern skepticism toward federal medical mandates.

vietnam veterans· agent orange· discrimination· bloods· philadelphia

2:56:20 Yeah, eventually we will line them up in a gym but that'll be for different reasons. It's jab day! I mean that's what... Jab Day? But that's how we need to do it if this is truly a threat. If we're sincere. Agreed. As we saw with this case and now were gonna go back to Vietnam and the reason why brought us out in his veterans day and I think Vietnam veterans are getting short end of stick Oh my goodness do they Because they were brought up, uh... They were in an unpopular war similar as it is now. The country's in a similar state that it was then

2:56:57 Half the people were on board, well 30%, 30% and then 40 was in the middle like eh. Which with 30 is winning? And in hindsight we look at that's a war we shouldn't have fought and we don't have respect for those veterans. The reason why this is important to me because not only am I dealing with the vaccine, I'm dealing with my father and my uncle both who served in the military during Vietnam and they're thrown away All this plays into the psyche of this. I mean, uh-uh This is one of my most revealing shows because I look at them as like are you want me to take the L for? The country huh and if our main views gonna throw me away hell no i'm not taking your shot

2:57:47 That's why I met with it because i saw they did, they stepped up to the duty whether it was their draft or when they came back man. The country was so mind controlled they were called baby killers It was horrible for these vets to come back from Vietnam and the Korean War. The same way is going be now with anti-vaxxer You only want you don't want it's gonna be this I hate to say it was gonna be the same way But I need to put some perspective on it cuz I didn't make this point right up front It's a lot of poor people that were drafted just because of all shades and colors in right here but I have to make the point that black men were Hit at a higher percentage with the draft

2:58:35 And 26 will explain more about that. This is Bloods and Null. This evening, war stories about what it was like to have been young black and in Vietnam A high percentage of the men on the front lines in Vietnam were black by most accounts they had the highest casualties They say they were fighting two wars The enemy and discrimination But they also talk about battlefield brotherhood and lifelong friendships. This is a film about what it was like to fight that war, what it was like to be in Vietnam and to be black War stories from the blood who went to Nam

2:59:19 They came from the farms and from the ghettos, from high schools like this one Thomas Edison in Philadelphia. They didn't have the money to set out the war in college or leave the country they joined the armed forces they got drafted many of them never came back. Yeah they couldn't go to Canada, they couldn't go to a college you understand that? They didn't have rich parents do you know to help him dodge and that's kind of like what I'm saying now with COVID that say if you got rich parents or whatever, oh you don't have to take the jab because you don't have to work. Yeah yeah isn't it how convenient is that? It's like oh yeah we're going to do it by and you heard lizard man said it blue king say that where ours is more around college and jobs in this country not the stores right so I mean did we've seen this and then like they said this is the last mandate we've seen of this epic proportion

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The Psychological Trauma of War and Young Workers

A veteran describes the sheer terror of being sent to Vietnam at age 19 and witnessing death for the first time. The hosts draw a parallel to 17 and 18-year-olds today who feel forced to take a vaccine to attend college or start a career. They argue that "old men and women" are once again making decisions that disproportionately impact the lives and health of the youth.

military intelligence· combat stress· 19-year-olds· college students· livelihood

3:00:24 You know, I have my whole family as you know is military intelligence. And what you were saying about your dad and your uncle and of course I know both the stories it hurts me a lot really does because My family are also there's some Vietnam veterans and they're white and I think they just got it They didn't get everything they should have but they didn't get so shafted no way So I know it's a different time, different era but it was really sad. It makes me sad. There are a lot of parallels here and like I said I do this show for the parallels to say

3:01:06 Even then you had to convince, are you a believer or this? Or not. Did it go or not when you came back Yeah You have services available to you but convinces us that you have Agent Orange Convincing us and you were exposed to this kind of thing It's like dude I did what you asked me to do I went and paid the price. And like, I want people to understand this because this plays into the psyche of you've told us for the last what? Since George Floyd died that this country don't love you now roll up my sleeves for it Yeah No no i can't do it and it's a lot of people like me that say... No! I won't be the first on the front on the battle line. I'll hang back. I'll see how this thing goes um

3:01:57 But like I said, that's why I juxtaposed it to World War II where black men were itching to get some. It was like oh kill a Nazi? Let's go! He was saying let's turn up but now I'm not a little different and like i said I want him...I'm doing this Like I said, this is a mandate show not specific just to COVID mandate. That's why I framed my statement in that way because I want to show how people in smoky rooms can make decisions that leave people with lasting impact for the rest of their life and this is something like I say I'm living with it till this day there and you hear about World War II, you hear about the modern wars on the desert those kind of things

3:02:44 Afghanistan, but you don't hear about Vietnam. I mean they just totally forgot about these people But with that said let's go ahead and get into 27 How did you feel when you first heard that you were going to war? The obvious answer. Scared! For most of us and for you, you're 16 or 17 years old and you think death is 60 years away from you but the minute that somebody tells you something or says something that brings death close to your mind You get scared, real scared. And at 19 they gave me orders to go to Vietnam and my stomach dropped out. That's a fear, it's fear before you even get there is fear Imagine being on an airplane getting off walking into your mother's oven

3:03:34 Because that's exactly what it was. When I woke up that plane, my skin broke into a white ash like into big sweat and here I am in this hot climate they said I have to stay for 13 months. I was scared man! I was so scared you... It is hard to believe I actually wetted on myself? I messed on myself? That first four months I was terrified You know and its a fright It's unbelievable when you see people drop. You don't know what death is, because most of us never see death by that church when a family member dies but to watch guys drop below you and your wondering What am I going to do? Fire weapon practices one thing, shooting at somebody for real or something else. Yeah no kidding So i'm just laying this out to say This is not only a race thing

3:04:28 Because that's a part of it, but this is an age thing as well. 17 18 year old kids got to take it to go to college You see their hearts getting blown out But take it you want to work don't you? You want survive come just looking at the 17-18 year old mo It's like I had to have a job. I had car insurance or saying rent whatever else um Just trying to you know scrape to get by and it's like well You're putting me in a bad position because I ain't this is not my battle. Those young kids like man, get over COVID to me was like no you gotta get it. You gotta go fight this war now bunch of old men and women making decision that can impact young people's lives and there's a parallel there

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Black Soldiers and the "Double War" in Vietnam

Black soldiers in Vietnam reportedly fought a "double war" against both the enemy and discrimination within their own ranks. The hosts discuss how Vietnamese locals were taught racial slurs by white American soldiers. They suggest that the "Blood" culture and dapping originated among these hardened veterans, who returned to a country that still denied them basic foundations of wealth and respect.

white supremacy· n-word· black exploitation films· bloods and crips· military culture

3:05:22 Yes, and the parallel is all the way up to the top because wars yeah sure it was about communism But that's not really what wars are about War wars are for the people who finance them on both sides So it sat us at all around sad all round. And so just getting back and I will say this like This ain't no pity for the black men in Vietnam because those being came back troopers. I mean you talking about hardened soldiers come out of that and when they came back with their head, if they had came back with a head on straight? That was a very serious generation of men and that's why they had to get them out house You're talking about black man who knew how to kill efficiently? That's a real problem

3:06:14 Yeah, let's give them dope. Let's give them heroin. Let's give them this. Let's get black exploitation films. Let's give them... Let's let them ride in the theaters from the past show A lot of black exploitation films were based off of, you know, bloods coming back from Vietnam. Is that where Bloods and Crips came from? Or Bloods at least the blood part of the crips? I believe so! I believe part of it was there but like i said i come from a generation where like i said my uncle my dad they were in vietnam a lot their friends were in vietnam they taught you to dap

3:06:53 You're saying like, you know That's how they knew like who was cool to who wasn't because it wasn't all roses over there either in Vietnam as far as not just the Vietnamese people But but even their fellow soldiers. Mm-hmm And you can see that and on the next clip It's illegal a say is against regulation I Alright, if you don't take it off before you come in the theater You don't get in theater. This is the way they do this thing They said that Afro was legal I'm gonna ride around That's what they said It was legal We can score to Afro Alright This man... There are a lot of brothers here This man has got an afro This is an afro right here Somewhat of an afro Not big But they want us to wear skin hair What they call it high and tight High and tight It's not my culture

3:07:47 They come over here, they get alright a Vietnamese girl. She call me a nigga. A nigga Vietnamese girl I know it's not part of their language can't nobody tell me that's part of their language but i'm gonna go over here The Beast you know that see we're going to fight okay? We fight If in the water we drink, the land we grow our food on and our way of culture. We also fight to protect Rockefeller's foundations. We fight to protect J.P Kennedy's foundation all these different kind of foundations that a black man can't partake off you understand? And then we go back with continuous harass it is not necessary this ain't what we heard this is what we know see we've seen from the birdseye point of view we are people here now see we see it now

3:08:32 Now just like he said these people these are young people don't know how to don't know how to where the word nigga came from or nothing They have to learn how to speak it That's real telling very telling that tell you white supremacy is a system You go over here to fight for your country. You've been held up first. Are you being drafted? right You go over there to fight to protect the people and those same people we call you the n-word. And it is indoctrinated into this system, so now when you foreshadowed this now you help people understand better about Muhammad Ali right? And his um what do they call it conscientious objection yeah conscience objection until joining the war So now we have

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Muhammad Ali's Conscientious Objection and Boxing Ban

In 1966, heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali refused induction into the U.S. Army, citing his religious beliefs as a member of the Nation of Islam. He famously stated he had "no quarrel with them Viet Cong." As a result, he was stripped of his boxing license and title during his physical prime. The hosts discuss Ali's integrity in choosing his principles over his career and money.

muhammad ali· cassius clay· nation of islam· elijah muhammad· conscientious objector

3:09:30 into when one person stands up because we had to lay this out. Ali wasn't as popular as he is now, all this is hindsight. In 1966, Muhammad Ali the heavyweight champion of the world was banned from boxing in the United States after he refused as a conscientious objector to serve in the arm. Boxing is nothing like going to war with machine guns bazookas hangar days bomber airplanes my intention is to box to win a clean fight but

3:10:20 The intention is to kill, kill, kill and continue killing innocent people. As a follower of Elijah Muhammad and a minister of the Nation of Islam, he said that the war was against the teachings of his religion. But the 60s were about...were a time of creative imagination The ability to find truth your own truth and pursue it And that's what Ali seemed to embody Man, his story needs to be retold particularly these years. It really does No they can't They can't see that's the thing They can't because that shows you the power of people When you have one person stand up and like I said Muhammad Ali he was the newly champ He just beat Sonny Liston I'm going off my mental memory here But like I said he wasn't an established champ

3:11:29 And the other issue was they wanted to use him like they used Joe Louis. Mm-hmm, Joe Lewis was very military friendly because he understood that the Nazi had to be taken out but even still Joe Louis died broke from the IRS just greasing him so I mean Ali had all this history and understanding and then he understood what was feeling on the streets of Like I said, you heard in the blood like the bloods is like hey nah. Yeah. I'm not gonna I'm not going to fight for war, but they were given a choice. Fight for the war or go to jail? Go to prison and not only go to prison but then you get like can't hold certain jobs and I mean felony is bad No, that's just the beginning of the problems Yeah You tack on arrest that so it's this is I'm not equating that what we're going through now But there are similarities in this sense of

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Modern "Muhammad Alis" in Sports and Medicine

The hosts compare Muhammad Ali's stand to modern figures like Kyrie Irving and doctors such as Robert Malone and Pierre Kory. They argue that just as Ali was stripped of his license to box, these doctors risk their medical licenses to challenge the prevailing COVID-19 narrative. They suggest that the "establishment" uses the same tactics of marginalization and career destruction against today's dissenters.

kyrie irving· robert malone· peter mccullough· pierre kory· medical licenses

3:15:32 the quote-unquote community, you know what I'm saying? Because you had black men every day getting...I think it was called 1A. That you were marked as 1A and could go be sent off. You had that groundswell and then you have rich kids at universities—not say rich but people who has some means—at universities got behind them with the antiwar effort This is why they control the athletes the way they do now. Athletes, colleges, educators... They know where the problems are! And Ali went through a lot of things that doctors are standing up and putting their life on the line just to tell what their perceived truth is about COVID Isn't that interesting? I'm sorry to interrupt Yeah go ahead The parallel of Muhammad Ali and Khairi or you know

3:16:25 And I'm just saying the doctors if you if you don't hold a narrative You can't operate in the state cuz boxing to box. You gotta have license ooh Better analogy got it. You gotta have a license the boxes like okay, you want to help me on narrative right? Let me get that license so we have our Muhammad Ali's now We have doctors is standing up. Yeah, I'm good to hear from him McCallum alone Corey. Yeah They're all out there You got a thing to put your your livelihood on the line for what we should just call these super doctors Call them all Muhammad. So Mohammed Malone, Mohammed Kory But yeah We have heroes right in front of us that's the thing about it now it takes some my weight like I

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The Gulf of Tonkin False Flag and Robert McNamara

The 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, which served as the pretext for escalating the Vietnam War, is discussed as a historical "false flag." Internal Pentagon documents later revealed that the reported second attack by North Vietnamese torpedo boats never occurred. President Lyndon B. Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara used the fabricated event to persuade Congress to pass the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, granting unlimited military authority.

gulf of tonkin· lyndon b. johnson· robert mcnamara· uss maddox· nsa

3:17:18 a big platform, but that's why you don't let them even get the light of day and be seen. Because even then there was some shenanigans going on how we got to the actual war in Vietnam. On the morning of August 4th 1964 I began my first full-time employment in the Pentagon working under Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara The very first day on the job, all hell broke loose. A courier came running in with a flash cable saying that American warships were under attack in the Tonkin Gulf off the coast of North Vietnam and I was getting these because my boss was already

3:18:07 down the hall with McNamara, picking targets to retaliate against North Vietnam. Minute after minute more cables came in three torpedoes had been fired seven we are taking evasive action at about 1 30 our time comes new cable from the Commodore of the two ships hold everything in effect all previous reports of torpedoes are in question renewed hostile actions against United States ships on the high seas and the Gulf of Tonkin have today required me to order the military forces in the United States, take action and reply. Within days it was clearer and clearer that there had been no attack. Yeah yeah this is a favorite! Me and Alex Jones we love using this as our example for false flag

3:18:59 We wanna, I'mma lean on you on this one as far as...I know the story as far as Gulf of Tonkin but you want to kind of fill in some gaps or maybe parallels with what's going on now? Well do you have a second one to this? A second let's play that first and then i'll fill whatever is missing because it seems pretty clear. Within days it was clearer and clearer that there had been no attack. I shall immediately request the Congress to pass a resolution President Johnson was determined to prevent a communist victory in South Vietnam. He twisted the facts of the Tonkin Gulf incident, to persuade Congress to give him unlimited authority to use military force. He then launched a war that would last another 11 years.

3:19:52 Senator Fulbright, you moved the Tunkin Resolution through the Senate. Did you know anything about this? I accepted the story given to us by the President and Mr. McNamara and Mr. Rusk... ...and I believe General Wheeler. I had no reason at that time and under those circumstances to doubt the validity of the truthfulness in this whole operation We still see no wider war No wider war?! As I found out day by day in the Pentagon, that was our highest priority. Preparing a wider war which we expected to take place immediately after the election."

3:20:28 It's a war that I think ought to be fought by the boys of Asia to help protect their own land. And for that reason, I haven't chosen to enlarge the war." And it was a conscious lie we all knew that inside the government and not one of us told the press or the public or the electorate during that election is well kept secret by thousands and thousands of people including me Including people I know probably. This was just a bit before i was born, about a month? The USS Maddox which was on patrol...

3:21:08 in the region and they claim that three North Vietnamese torpedo boats attacked them with torpedoes, machine gun fire and the whole thing turned out to be I think there was like one bullet hole they found much later. And then National Security Agency NSA yes our friends they also had fake false signal intelligence about a second attack in this Gulf of Tonkin And what it all resulted in was the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, so this was all the fog. By the way some of you who are old enough to remember the name Robert McNamara he was the Secretary of Defense and these are guys that were all related to the Bushes and all the way up the line much later

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Government Lies and the Origin of "Conspiracy Theory"

The hosts list historical events where the government is widely believed to have lied to the public, including the sinking of the Lusitania and the JFK assassination. They note that the CIA popularized the term "conspiracy theory" in the 1960s to discredit citizens investigating the Kennedy killing. This history of deception is cited as the primary reason for modern public hesitancy to trust government health mandates.

lusitania· pearl harbor· 9/11· cia· jfk assassination

3:21:57 And from this came the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which essentially gave the authority to attack anything that we didn't like in Southeast Asia that smelled of communism. That was all we needed you know it was like the Patriot Act of the day. I was gonna go there next now hearing this seeing 9-11 happen reading about Some of the happenings around Pearl Harbor, I think that Lusitania was another kind of maybe false flag. Oh, the list of Lusitania? Yes, of course! So i'm just saying like

3:22:41 So, when you come to me and be like oh your government would never lie to you. They would never... That's where we had common ground from day one Moe We both agree on the government lying to us and lizard people This would be our general consensus But the thing is, it's okay if you want to lie to me and it doesn't affect me fine. I mean...I'm just speaking from the normal everyday person. So that really doesn't bother- It does affect you but you don't feel the effect. But when you have a lie and then it impacts me directly, imma start looking into things

3:23:22 I'm sure there was troopers back then that were looking around like, hey this guffa talking things kind of stinks and they were called crazy They were called misinformed. Well, can you doing your own research? They were already called conspiracy theorists at that point This was Lyndon B Johnson. This is right after Kennedy and it's an established fact that the CIA launched the term conspiracy theory in order to thwart any citizen journalism into the JFK killing. So this was fresh, this conspiracy theorist thing was just getting started and you could use it to great advantage. And then you wonder why people are hesitant to believe anything! Not me! This is a question I ask myself

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Black American Skepticism and "Conspiracy Survivalists"

Mo Facts argues that black Americans have a long history of "conspiratorial thinking" as a survival mechanism against a system that has historically been untrustworthy. He cites the influence of hip hop and figures like the RZA in spreading awareness of global power structures like the Trilateral Commission. The hosts also mock the Jussie Smollett incident as an example of a narrative that was immediately recognizable as "bullshit" to those with survivalist instincts.

trilateral commission· bilderberg group· hip hop· jussie smollett· survivalism

3:24:19 fill in the blank didn't happen how would life be different? Well hold on let me back up before you do that. So I was talking to Dvorak at some point during the show and i can't remember exactly what the topic was but I said, you know, I did my typical well why one black friend says okay uh but what he said and I think you remember this he said yeah but Moe's not like... He's not a regular black guy Because you know, you're different. You look into conspiracies It's my feeling having known... we've been talking for what two years now almost? It's my feeling that there is a much larger contingent of conspiracy thinking or aware people amongst black Americans than not

3:25:08 Did you hear the blood in the Amsterdam? We fighting for Rockefeller and JP Kennedy. You know it was crazy, in 1980, let's see Christina was born so no then it was 90 maybe 91 we went to Jamaica to that place in Mo Bay and on the beach was a young guy named David Jamaican And he would, you know there was barely internet and so he would bring me the one of those like photocopied newspaper. Oh here's the New York Times like three pages photocopied. So you could kind of read the paper and then the paper would come later as we were getting to talking key said oh no I read this by reading the paper this is why love working in the beach i read the paper every single day any work therefore you know it was a young guy already worked for eight or nine years

3:25:59 And he said, you know the world is... and I'd never heard this before this time Moe. I was not into this! I was doing other things. I was MTV guy He's like oh man don't you know about the Trilateral Commission? and the Bilderberg Group? But I've never heard of these things before Oh yes it how the world is all...and this was a kid on the beach in Jamaica And I've had to think of David many many times. I said oh my god You know there are so many people have their eyes and ears open that we're just not aware And one of the biggest vehicles for quote-unquote conspiracy theories has been hip hop. Yes. RZA from Wu Tang was talking about deadly vaccines, so I mean this none of this catches a flat footing and it's like i said um...I am not normal just to say that oh uh..i'm not the normal person for anybody but

3:26:57 Yeah, it's just that all you have to do is not believe this goes back to what you're saying. Let me back up a little bit You just said it yourself these people the 40% they believe whatever is put in front of them the news The headlines when you stop looking and believing their headlines and just like actually sit back and pay attention to what's going on, what's being said. He'd be like yeah that's bullshit excuse my language you know saying like Jesse Smollett oh but it was a good example he got attacked by two three white guys in Chicago and 30 degree below weather uh huh no I mean remember it turned out to be black guys that was even funnier yeah I'm just saying though babe I'm just gonna tell you how I process that

3:27:44 I saw on the news earlier that morning. Here's how you process it, bullshit! Right? It was like Chicago is so cold that they had to set the train rails on fire and i'm like hold on he went out for subway in that kind of weather and got attacked in Maga country. I didn't have to put the two and two together. He's like I don't need to read any reports. Bull crap yeah and Chicago not so much Maga country I'm just saying, but we're not going out for Subway if we gotta light the rails on fire. That's just not happening! I call it Uber Eats now come on knock it off that smells but yeah I mean so yeah we are conspiratorial by survival. Survivalist yes conspiracy survivalists

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New Money and Final Producer Acknowledgments

The hosts discuss Bitcoin as "new money" that provides a lifeline for independent media to avoid being deplatformed by services like PayPal or Cash App. They thank the final group of producers for the episode, including Joel Tucker and David Shalona. A brief mention is made of a potential new show featuring Stephen Colbert and Charlamagne Tha God, which the hosts predict will be "cringey."

bitcoin· satoshis· paypal· cash app· charlamagne tha god· stephen colbert

3:28:37 So with that said, let's go ahead and thank some more producers with new money. Yes! And we'll talk about what new money is I like brand-new money. I just don't want any money around me It's not...I'd almost rather have a new one than an old 20 That's kind of dumb isn't it? But there's something about new money that excites you You like hundred dollar bills? Oh yeah, I like the money too Most beautiful thing on earth is a hundred dollar bill. I ain't seen a woman as good-looking as $100 bill There's something about a bill that excites you Yeah, wait until you see a hundred Satoshi's because we do have new money. It's called Bitcoin and you can support us it gives us another lifeline to ensure that we have continuity Podcasting 2.0 if you get one of the new apps at NewPodcastApps.com We can't be deplatformed from that but also we have a direct value for value money stream

3:29:32 that you can determine it's just like the PayPal or Cash App except it works with the podcast app in real time. You set the value, etc., It is truly new money and it will keep us going in case...you know Paypal though or Cash App right? Anything is possible! You've seen it I don't have to convince you And we want to thank the rest of our producers for episode number 70. We see Joel Tucker coming in with $40, thank you! Steele Syme 3666 and he's in Melbourne Australia. Thank you very much for all you do he says. Malindrip 24 dollars thank you Craig Scott gives us 1545 thank You Craig Maui Goods

3:30:16 $15 Uncle Adam and Brother Mo, thank you for the work you do. Steven Corbett and Charlemagne Tha God are coming out with a show not coincidentally Yes, Steven Corbetts. Who is Steven Corbett? Is that Colbert maybe? Maybe he means... He says Corbett It says Corbett does it mean Colbert wait I don't know. Is Colbert... That would make a better show Yeah! I was gonna say Colbert Hold on. Colbert and Charlemagne I gotta see if this is true Are they gonna do a show together? Bunch of jackass. Oh yeah, you're right it is Stephen Colbert. Oh goodness okay. That's going to be the cringiest clip well of all time. Okay yes not coincidentally I don't know

3:31:09 If they're sincere, if they really are sincere. If they follow the words of Malcolm X and they really sit down They really don't hold back but that's impossible because it can be on television There is no way they can do that I mean even Bruce Springsteen and Barack Obama from very old They couldn't make it happen It was a failure that show This not easy work No Is Prince Hall and black Freemasonry coming soon? Who are the good guys fighting the they New Order bad guys in your opinion. I think we've actually addressed this today We've done a lot of it you you me everybody yes Exactly, thanks Maui goods

3:31:54 Chris Bergstrom, Chris Vox checking in. Five for this week five for last apologies for being tardy keep up the great work thank you for your courage ten dollars total Thank You Chris love what you do thank you most as SV with a 10 spot Andrea $10 thank you Moises Hernandez 556 love y'all love you too David Shalona says AIDS blew my mind I'm sure he means the episode Or not, it could have blown your mind too. Yeah $5 thank you Yarbrough comes in with two five dollar donations totaling ten Thank You and Terry the human subscription Keller once again reminding us that we need more subscription options at least one at all four dollars and eleven cents And we thank all of these producers and also our previously mentioned executive and associate executive producers for Your support and for truly producing it is the true meaning

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Floyd Mayweather's Support for Kyrie Irving and LeBron James' Silence

Floyd Mayweather released a video supporting Kyrie Irving's right to choose, praising his integrity and "free mind." The hosts contrast Mayweather's "FU money" independence with LeBron James, whom they describe as being too controlled by corporate interests like Nike to take a meaningful stand. They argue that Irving's refusal to play home games in New York has made him a leader for those resisting mandates.

floyd mayweather· kyrie irving· lebron james· integrity· nike

3:32:45 of the word of production when it comes to media and by the way you're a producer and the credits for the execs and associate executive producers those are real credits we'll vouch for you no problem go look on IMDB and see if credits for The No Agenda Show and MoFax don't show up with some pretty big names next to it I think he'll be surprised So again, thank you. It's a big turning point A lot of things happening in life for the MoFaq show We rely on your support we count on it and we thank you for returning the value that goes into this program So we go from one champ Muhammad Ali to another champ Floyd Mayweather Kyrie what's up? I know you're going through a lot We had a chance to hang out in 2016 when you represented America When you represented the red white and blue

3:33:37 you only want to be treated fair. I was going to post something on one of my social media pages, but I decided to do it the old school way and read it out to you because you're a great person, great father, great athlete and you believe what you believe. America is the land of the free. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and supposedly freedom to choose. Never be controlled by money. I respect you for having some integrity in being your own man A free mind makes its own choices. An enslaved mind follows the crowd, stand for something or fall for anything one man can lead a revolution to stand up and fight for what's right One choice one word one action can change the world It's crazy how people hate you for being a leader I hope your actions encourage many others to stand up and say enough is enough

3:34:34 Respect to you Kyrie and power to the people. Yeah, I played this on no agenda too it's amazing there was like zero Cancel noise about Floyd Mayweather No one said anything about this because he got his own money He's got FU money. I mean like what? I mean all money like Keygold's fights gets paid There's not there's no Nike cutting him a check. There's no League cutting them a check mm-hmm. He has direct revenue generating power, which is what we're trying to do here. As far as we don't have the kids up two networks or whatever else to say already going look over his shoulder does the bullae phone gonna ring because I said this and I said that so yeah that's why you don't hear anything about him but he brought up Kyrie Irving saying if one person stands up it can be a problem for the establishment and this is why

3:35:35 I was watching LeBron so closely. And me, and I don't think we talked about this but with LeBron, LeBron wanted to do this so bad, so bad because he's never gonna be Michael Jordan. He's never gonna be the greatest basketball player ever. He tried to be Muhammad Ali with the social justice stances but they were very milquetoast if he would have took that shot Well not if he would not have took the shot and took the chance of saying you know what I'm gonna do like Kyrie did it said No, I'm not going to take it. I don't think it's right to force people to take it You could take it If you want to he could easily be in Muhammad Ali Easily so what was his problem? He is just pussy too controlled Oh man, no I mean that kind of thing that'll get you

3:36:28 Archeside I mean that I mean they use the reference. That'll get you up out of here don't get no, no Don't get it twisted. I mean But LeBron got a bullet phone too that can be run and I think it's going right now And we saw this kind of thing with what he was doing. It was uh, LeBron pushes the coach LeBron does this the Documents if you go to the YouTube channel, I did lives and things Watching him cuz I knew it was like that's what took her so long to say he was gonna take it He was trying to see which way the you know, the wind was gonna blow but he had this have come to the you know, the two powers that be and I must say this Kyrie Irving. He's always been an antilever on mm-hmm And this is a natural thing for him to do. I mean he

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Joy Reid's Critique of Kyrie Irving and the Ali Comparison

MSNBC's Joy Reid criticized Kyrie Irving, calling his stance an "anti-vax tirade" and mocking the comparison to Muhammad Ali made by Stephon Marbury. The hosts argue that Reid is "triggered" because Irving's calm, soft-spoken defense of personal choice is difficult to marginalize. They suggest the media industrial complex is desperate to smear Irving because he represents a threat to the mandatory vaccination narrative.

joy reid· msnbc· stephon marbury· brooklyn nets· sports media

3:37:27 He marches to a beat of his own drum. Same thing with Aaron Rodgers, their scene is like thinkers in a bad way. You think too much, you're doing too much thinking Kyrie and you can hear this in the next clip how Joy Reid critiques him for his anti-vax stance The new anti-vax poster child Brooklyn Nets guard Kyrie Irving went on Instagram live on Wednesday to ramble I mean speak first time since his team told him he was barred from playing until he got the shot You think I really want to lose money?

3:38:06 You think I really want to give up on my dream to go after a championship in order to be on the team? I have to be vaccinated. I chose to be unvaccinated and that was my choice. This is not a political thing here, it's not about the NBA, it's not about any organization. It's really about my life and what I'm choosing to do." Irving went on to say more- A LOT more telling fans he has taken his stance against those who've lost their jobs over vaccine mandates but then a new development emerged...Irving's anti-vax tirade was somehow compared to, wait for it... Oh just you wait. To the activism of the greatest of all time Muhammad Ali with NYX alum Stéphane Marbury saying Ali would be proud

3:38:47 Okay, okay. Who's triggered right now? Because I am for sure all the way triggered! Triggered Knicks fan right here Now probably mentioned this before on this show but Muhammad Ali is like literally my personal hero My favorite athlete of all time I was obsessed with him in boxing growing up only to become further captivated by who he was outside the ring An international icon and lifelong fighter for human rights and equality Which is why I'm going to do my very best to purge this comparison from the internets for good Kyrie Irving is not the modern-day Muhammad Ali. First of all, she has zero standing to say this! Second of all we might rival her audience in numbers and listeners. It's close I mean what? This is okay... Was anyone else talking this nonsense or just Joy Reid? No

3:39:37 Oh, the whole media, sports media industrial complex. I don't watch that of course but yeah oh my goodness The questions were why is he doing this? We made it very clear he said i'm doing this for standing up for people who does not give him a choice It's not about the vaccine. It's not about, you understand- No it's purely about choice for him yeah. It's the point of people shouldn't lose their jobs because they choose one way or the other that's it and they tried to make him um the bad guy he didn't Kyrie haven't really said much at all uh and what I'm saying is the way he could be the Ali there's nothing that Kyrie's doing

3:40:23 Because I don't think Muhammad Ali even publicized what he was doing. It's people gravitated towards him and say, I believe in what you're not doing let me support you. You see what i'm saying? That was the college kids that were the people in the neighborhood it's like man hey let's go Ali. Let's go so um... That that's the thing is uh... Like I said its just funny She can get up here and like she like you heard us say it's his tirade carry carry kick going at this He's very calm and like soft-spoken, um But they made him they made him the bad guy and it's for a reason. Oh

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The 1978 Ali Vaccine PSA and Identity Politics

Joy Reid utilized a 1978 PSA where Muhammad Ali encouraged childhood vaccinations to argue that Ali would not support Irving. The hosts critique Reid's "identity-less" approach to journalism, comparing her to Don Lemon. They argue that using a PSA for established childhood vaccines to justify a mandate for an experimental product is a disingenuous "hit piece" designed to protect her own job.

mumps· measles· polio· colin kaepernick· laura ingraham· identity-less

3:41:11 Because of some of the stances he had, he's easily to marginalize. And you're going to hear more that in 37. He is a famous person using his famous person platform to put others at risk of a deadly airborne disease that has wreaked havoc on the human race and disproportionately on people who look like Kyrie Irving Muhammad Ali, on the other hand took a political stance as a conscientious objector to the Vietnam War saying that he refused to go to war and shoot my brother or some darker people or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. Ali risked going to prison because of his stance. Prison! Now here's the other thing... Muhammad Ali supported vaccines even doing a PSA encouraging them for New Yorkers in 1978

3:41:59 The law says if your kids don't have their shots for dangerous diseases like mumps, measles and polio they aren't getting into school. The law also says they must go to school so you have no choice get your kids their shots So nope, nope, Kyrie Irving is the literal opposite of Muhammad Ali He is a person who once said that the world was flat And who is now being used as a pawn for the alt-right and MAGA army, like Ted Cruz. He's praising him for his incredible courage but who called Colin Kaepernick a rich spoiled athlete for taking a knee against police killing people who look like Kyrie Irving Hey! Professional Karen Laura Ingraham should Kyrie Irving shut up and dribble or not?

3:42:43 Being a contrarian does not make you an intellectual. It does not make you a hero, it most certainly doesn't make anything near the greatest In fact it makes those using you as anti-vax celebrity pawns the absolute worst Okay this is probably the most crazy clip I've heard from Joy Reid I mean I've heard alot... It's close to her and Nikki but go ahead This is really yeah.. But I mean your You're bringing in Muhammad Ali universally loved black and white and red and yellow worldwide Yes, very very very risky strategy. This joy reading to be taken to court you know I'm saying well here's the thing Joy is holding as you made reference to her ratings And this is where people like her are very dangerous when they're in it's the hardest irony and a paradox of it

3:43:39 and hopes to keep her job. This is what she does. Oh yeah, you see it now in the hopes to keep her job that she loves She's willing to go out and do hit pieces like this I think that she's so bad that she probably is all-in on this Look What I do know about Joy Reid because I see her almost every day She's always changing her look. Yeah, and but I mean like severely she got the different wig on she's doing good You know one day she's Caribbean next day She's African American then she just African and then she something like I don't even recognize Like you're like a sponge like a really weird weird vibe. She's got going on And so if she has no identity No identity

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NBA "Load Management" and the Brooklyn Nets' Decision

The Brooklyn Nets' decision to bar Kyrie Irving from all games, rather than letting him play only away games, is discussed. The hosts point out the irony, as the NBA frequently allows "load management" where star players sit out games for rest. They argue that the team and the city of New York are intentionally ramping up the pressure on Irving to force compliance, despite his value to the team's championship hopes.

load management· san antonio spurs· home games· collective bargaining· workplace pressure

3:44:40 So she's an identity-less person and she goes through life, I think unhappy. She is the female Don Lemon? Yes! And those people are dangerous when you don't have talent to hold you where your at... Yeah i agree with that Then you push a gender. Yep. And that's the thing about it like I said The thing about Kyrie is this, he said I'm okay. He didn't sign up for this it's New York that says he can't play not the NBA and not his employer New York says you can't play so he said okay i just want to play home games

3:45:21 So then the Brooklyn Nets say, well you know what? If you only don't want to play home games how about you not play at all. Now this is the dumbest thing I ever heard because... Kyrie's kind of important to the team isn't he? You would think so! He's one maybe top 10-15 basketball players in NBA right now or even higher it depends on what you value in your list but The thing was that NBA was known for sitting players for rest You play tonight, you don't play tomorrow night. You played in the night and LeBron is one popularized it but I mean who really ran with it was uh The Spurs they were known like I mean the NBA had to even get on them like hey We got we got ad dollars here. You can't just sit your players like that

3:46:07 So this is baked into the NBA of sitting out every other night or what they call it. They're saying they call it rest, or resting your players so I mean because you got 82 games in a NBA season They're not important that like to sit out some But it's like we're gonna make you choose all you don't want to play okay? We're gonna not let you play at all So it's the NBA that is ramping this up and the Nets that are ramping this up. And then they use their propaganda machine to smear him, but it didn't stop there. Hold on I got a question when it comes... Okay so resisting you know there's gonna be we are all about resisting this mandate

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Sports Gambling and the Waning Influence of Celebrities

The hosts discuss why fans haven't abandoned professional sports despite political controversies, citing the "communal aspect" of fantasy leagues and the rise of sports gambling. They observe that the influence of celebrities is waning, as people now "weaponize" athletes for their own political causes. They note that "anti-hero" figures like Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving often see a surge in support and jersey sales from those who feel unrepresented.

fantasy leagues· gambling· jersey sales· kyle rittenhouse· anti-hero

3:46:52 When it comes to basketball and football, do you see fans people who really love the game such as you do really like absolutely turning it off and shunning it? And letting that be known that you're just not going to participate in their games or is the lure still too big for you still got to be a part of it. Here's the problem and I'm speaking from my personal experience People are not really into sports People are into the communal aspect of sports Like I said that big sports keeps me tied in with my 11 other guys and my fantasy league That we have something that we could like, you know Laugh and joke about it's not sitting down watching the game. It's not that's not the point so

3:47:43 And then sports gambling is another big thing, which a lot of people can't really turn away because it's a lot of money being passed around. But I'll say this the Leagues have been very smart in picking their targets because you notice Aaron Rodgers is not the only unvaccinated person at NFL. Kyrie Irving is not the only unvaccinated person. Let's get these quirky kind Anti-hero kind of people and we'll beat up on them So that's why you don't see kind of fans walking away from it. Okay, which is weird I mean it's once again. I'll say this It's not in the NBA this causing Kyrie not to play its New York just putting the pressure on him right?

3:48:41 Just putting the pressure on the team. The pre-team puts the pressure on him So that's how it works But at what point does one of these super fans just go and go ape shit and go postal themselves? It is a possibility Um, it's a real possibility but I would think this the jersey sales will tell to tell Is Kyrie Irving's jersey selling more than the average? I got you. Is Aaron Rodgers' jersey selling more than average? I mean, you saw Kyler Coppin and he didn't even play football! And yet won the number one-selling jerseys so people are going to support and that's why i said he could easily become Muhammad Ali not in a statute—and I hope people understand what I'm saying—it's that people weaponize celebrities for their cause

3:49:27 Right, and I think that that is waning. I think the influence of celebrities is completely disappearing It's disappearing along with the ratings a lot of them in the lockdowns And we're seeing them their true selves heroes have come out of that people that would like holy crap this man or woman Is fantastic but the majority is like wow you're a real dick? I always knew it But now I see it so it's changing Unless it's something political that we like and that's the thing. That's how we're picking out celebrities now Like what side are you on? Yeah, okay. Yeah, you like you like you like that Okay I like you right and then you turn away look at Nikki. I mean they have Fox News So that lets you know is bigger than yeah what you bring to the table is about what your message um And that's why Kyrie is very dangerous in this situation because like I said

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and the Rolling Stone "Hit Piece"

Rolling Stone published an article by Matt Sullivan that characterized Kyrie Irving as a "nut job" and a "pawn for the alt-right." The piece featured 74-year-old Kareem Abdul-Jabbar calling for the NBA to remove all unvaccinated players. The hosts describe Abdul-Jabbar as a "sellout" for the establishment, contrasting his current stance with his 1960s radicalism alongside Muhammad Ali.

kareem abdul-jabbar· rolling stone· matt sullivan· karl marx· vaccine conscription

3:50:20 Kyrie not may not be a big name at home. He is but not like to honor LeBron J stature But when you talk about going to China Basketball, there's their religion over there Yeah That's why they had to keep him saying LeBron in the rap so this next clip I found very disheartening because Kyrie Irving was attacked. I use that word purposely, but attacked by Rolling Stones and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Rolling Stone magazine and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar sold out. Oh boy! They're flax for the establishment now fighting to uphold vaccine conscription

3:51:06 Tyree Irving is Muhammad Ali, a conscientious objector resisting an unjust culture war. Over the weekend Rolling Stone published a long-winded hit piece on Irving and other NBA players who are reluctant to take the experimental COVID vaccines. According to Rolling Stone anti-vax NBA players are standing in the way of the league imposing a vaccine mandate This is a bad look for a league that prides itself on being left of Karl Marx. Irving is seen as the leader of the anti-vaxxers who are pushing around the NBA, according to the writer Matt Sullivan. The article painted Irving as a nut job. It criticized him for liking posts from an Instagram account that previously posted messages alleging conspiracy theories against black people. The magazine trotted out 74 year old Abdul Jabbar, a 1960s radical who supported Ali

3:52:09 to reprise the role of David Susskind, the 1960s television host who shredded Ali for refusing induction into the military. Wow! Same quote. This is from Abdul-Jabbar. The NBA should insist that all players and staff are vaccinated or remove them from their team. That's Luau sellout talking to Rolling Stone Yeah, man. This is gonna get some people angry if they keep this up And that's that's why I say he could become you know the target of all this This attacks. Oh yeah He can become the victim I mean in a good way as far as no where they picking on Kyrie Why they're picking on Kyrie? All he said was we didn't want to play Take the jab and he's doing it to support the worker

3:53:09 Mean, this is the we always talk about the celebrities and athletes standing up for the little guy now I can say this is Kyrie. He could be doing it for his own reasons I don't I'm not that naive but in this information world that were in will take everything We get yeah That's what they don't understand about it It's like well Nikki we roll her far as we could and now we got Kyrie And we're right him as far as we can and that's It sounds cold and calculating, but that's how the information world works. As long as we can work together to our common cause we will you tap out and we saw this like I said with Trump when Trump started saying vaccines Utah people to boo start booing now he heard it up and changed it quick he was like well you know what? That's power other people that's real

3:54:00 Power from the groups of people so and ultimately people have the power and the sooner they realize it's a better That's why they don't want us to wake up And that's why they attack Kyrie Irving because he can ignite a fire, you know even what we're doing here We're taking on the big guys And we're consuming people's hours of people's listening time. They can't get that back That's right, you know That's that's where our real power is they're tuning in and they're tuning out or wherever they were used to replace whatever they replaced this what would a listen with here with so um

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The 1967 Ali Summit and the "Sweetheart Deal" Reveal

Promoter Bob Arum revealed that the famous 1967 "Ali Summit" was originally organized by Jim Brown to convince Ali to take a "sweetheart deal" from the Johnson administration. The deal would have allowed Ali to avoid the draft by performing boxing exhibitions for the military, similar to USO shows. Instead, Ali spent two hours convincing the other athletes that his refusal was correct, leading them to support him publicly.

bill russell· jim brown· lyndon b. johnson· bob arum· uso

3:54:41 Cream out do Jabbar. So I don't know if you've ever seen this picture or not It was called the civil rights summit and when Ali came out it was like all the big-time black athletes were around him And they're like, they painted it as oh we're here to support Ali Have you ever seen that picture before? I'm gonna go look for right now. You say Ali's summit But with that said it was a big PR stunt and don't take my word for it by Bob Abram a famed boxer promoted I was telling the story So you did promote a number of Ali fights in your 2525 of Wow and I read that when Ali refused induction

3:55:22 and he took the 43 mile, he accepted his ban that you were able to pull a few strings and you got it through the Lyndon Johnson administration if he had done some appearance work? That he could have continued to fight. This is a quote one of my dear dear friends is Jim Brown and Jim was the guy who introduced me to Ali and got me into the business so now when Ali takes the position that he's not going to go into the service I had a partner in my law firm who was the treasurer of the Democratic Party and we worked out a deal with Lyndon Johnson, Ali you don't have put on uniform just do some exhibitions at military bases and continue your professional career. So i'd go to gym and this is the time when we were working hard

3:56:13 black people into business, particularly athletes. So the idea I had with Jim Brown we had in those days closed circuit exhibitors having regions of the country and it was very lucrative and football players were making like 10 thousand a season so I said Get all the athletes together, the black athletes. Let them talk to Ali and convince him to take this deal and I will divide up the country and make these guys my regional exhibitors." Hmm! I of course did not know about this. I'm looking at the picture right now we got Russell, Ali Brown and Abdul-Jabbar right in front

3:57:01 So these are people like said this is people that allegedly supported Ali And you heard Ali could have easily took a deal With the government and saying and did the charade of you know going around he didn't have to put the uniform on just go to some Exhibitions, you know kind of like USO kind of stuff. Yeah Like the Harlem Globetrotters yeah, and he'd have been cool when he didn't do it. He didn't do it yeah and It's more to the story than... You know what this story looks like, I mean or this picture you just look at it and in the context is like well it looks like Last Supper almost. It does have that vibe too right? Sure does! Yeah yeah

3:57:44 Who's Judas? 40. So Jim got Willie Davis, there weren't that many black guys in the NFL then but all of them that were there the good ones he brought to that meeting Bill Russell came Lou Alcindor was a college student He came and uh... The idea Bobby Mitchell, I remember the idea was to convince Ali to take the deal now Bill Russell when he reported he'd reported accurately that that was the purpose of the meeting and they started talking to Ali and then Ali got up and talked for two hours And convinced them that what he was doing Was correct not going in and so forth. They all agreed to back him

3:58:37 Now they tell the story that they all met to talk Ali to tell him that they they were supporting him, which is not true So he believes so strongly in his anti Vietnam stance He didn't even want to appear for the military to continue. Actually it was a sweetheart deal It was the it was the best deal that the government could work out to save face They everybody wanted to say faith And look at what this guy did. He said no to that deal, it meant that he would be indicted and convicted for draft evasion so he faced five years in prison his licenses were taken away So people say were you ever worried that he never could fight again? Hell No! I was worried the guy would go to jail Wow...I never knew any of this This is great

3:59:40 See how the narrative see and that was actually the Elvis deal I think that they offered him right? Right, just go around do USO work. You know we say face you say face Ali said no And these people try to come in and convince him he end up convincing them No But in hindsight they tell the story oh We were there to support Ali yeah who though who tells a story that way everybody but Bill Russell. I was gonna say, I was gonna say Russell was the guy right and even that picture of Russell looks like this is... look at his jumbo you can tell he's got it in his face man he's got it right there. Bill Russell was a very serious man very serious living in Boston at the time but I'll say all that to say everybody should be given a choice

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Episode 70 Sign-Off and "I Wish I Could Live Forever"

Mo Facts and Adam Curry conclude the episode by reaffirming their commitment to the "Value for Value" model and their belief in personal talent and faith over government mandates. They announce the upcoming "Lost Tapes" session on YouTube and sign off with the track "I Wish I Could Live Forever." The lyrics of the closing song reflect themes of survival, urban struggle, and reaching for higher aspirations.

faith· talent· lost tapes· youtube· hip hop· sign-off

4:00:32 I'm making mine. This is where i draw the line in the sand Hopefully it works out hopefully courts work out, but if not I'll wrap by saying this I believe in myself my talents and my ability and God More than I believe in whatever they can do about taking a job away from me And as your partner in this venture? I got your back then I know the producers due to mm-hmm I'll say the VOOM everybody has a talent or two or three. Yeah so put it to use and use it with us let's make it happen all right damn Moe

4:01:21 Who knows what will happen in two weeks? We'll have another show. We'll have a lost tape now next Wednesday, we'll see what happens it's exciting I personally see all things that are taking place right now as a fantastic time to be alive and And to be a podcaster To help make things better I was totally agree with you and with that said As i always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself And we return with the Lost Tapes on YouTube. Go to mofaxx.com for more on that, that'll be next week and in two weeks we'll back with another MoFaxx With Adam Curry I wish i could live forever I wish i could live forever We wanna do what they tell us Live to feel better Times get a lot harder

4:02:16 We won't go anywhere unless we want to. A big tail on top and just a few legs, if we doubt it's not enough. I said the kids gonna do what they wanna do When it get hot out, hope they make it through summer school Cause it gets cold blooded with no 5-0 coming And when they come around though nobody know nothing It don't feel safe Cold case love lost Where the shorties got guns Call it the city of God and ain't taught how to aim Watch a friend get killed right there in front of your face So how the fuck would you feelin' so I pop pain pills until I feel better

4:02:55 And I got me a job, but no it won't cut it So I step on that work because the dope will All we know at night is the skyscrapers Where's concrete? Where the kids at? Let me go speak to em But if you never seen any mountains or stars How are you ever supposed to know That's the thing you should reach for I'm saying though... I wish I could live forever We won't do what they tell us, we'll pop in just a few minutes Time's getting hard we try to go ahead of it, we got it on and on and on

4:03:44 We never died that's why my motto still alive like a leaf spirit I told you one in the million times. This is a dream the one I used to fantasize So I'm looking at me from heaven through my grandma's eyes, and I know that she'd be proud so you hear me screaming loud I'm gonna Billboard just so you can see me now if she's in the clouds why put my drink on the ground So I'll pull it up for you. You want him to a crown shot down ambulances don't come around We're sure these brains blown out you want me to dumb it down That's why we get high road trees and backwoods It's hard to know you can when you raised off canned goods all we know is USDA checks and save a lot never had money, so

4:04:25 But how you gonna tell the kids they capable to rewrite pop culture when all they ever had was pills to pop? I wish I could live forever I wish I could live forever