Topic: Big Boy

3 chapters across the catalog

57: Capitol Heel
1:47:50 - 1:52:21

57: Capitol Heel

Associate Executive Producer Credits, Authentic Conversations

The hosts continue thanking donors, including Dame Jennifer and Brian Rogers. They highlight a comment about the "authentic conversation" between a white man and a black man that bypasses mainstream triggers. They also reference a historical moment involving Big Boy on Hot 97 and encourage listeners to support the show via mofundme.com.

56: Fishing Polls
1:19:35 - 1:22:50

56: Fishing Polls

Kanye West, Big Boy Interview, Self-Censorship

A throwback clip from Kanye West's interview with Big Boy is played, where Kanye discusses the removal of Jesus from schools and his refusal to be "canceled." The hosts note Kanye's self-awareness when he mentions not wanting to go "Alex Jones level," indicating he is conscious of how his words are used to label him as unstable.

30: School of Thought
46:42 - 51:00

30: School of Thought

Kanye West, Housekeeper Analogy and Mental Freedom

Kanye West's "housekeeper" analogy is used to discuss the social pressure on black Americans to maintain a certain "volume" and not disrupt the status quo. The hosts advocate for a "ruling class mentality" and freedom of thought, criticizing the shaming used to enforce groupthink. They also note how China successfully pressured CNN to change the narrative around the "Chinese disease," contrasting it with the lack of pushback against negative black stereotypes.