16: Whiteballed

00:09 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for November 25th, 2019. This is episode number 16! Now that's an opening and happy fourth month-iversary, Mo? Yeah we got what's that sixteen shows this four months yeah you ever take some change? Yeah pretty much we man wherever moving and grooving along here Man, I'm enjoy every bit of it Ditto my friend ditto So today what is today's the 25th of November? 2019 we got a brand new mofax with Adam Curry lined up for you and Well, we discussed what the topic would be which would be. I think if I looking at the clips We are deconstructing Colin Kaepernick Is that right?

01:02 Yes, I've waited to broach this topic because I knew it was gonna be ever-evolving story ever since he came onto the scene and I think we reached somewhat of a climax with the story. Oh Okay, so you mean the stories ending? It's over that's it. It's done well Well, I think there will be one more final scene like with any good movie You know um you have the I think what they call it nothing It's like right after the comic. Oh the epilogue Yes, I think we'll have that portion still left. Okay? But now as we reach the climax he's completely done with the NFL and I think both sides are happy about that Oh really! Okay alright And preface for this...I'm not a sports guy so i don't know really much other than some of the stuff we've looked into with social justice warrior

02:02 angle. So I hope to learn a lot today. So that's, I'm glad you're not a sports fan and I didn't make any assumptions so what we're gonna do is build up from the very moment that he refused to stand all the way up to where we at as of today Oh perfect excellent All right, so let's get right into it. Refuse to stand. It's the rare occasion when sports and politics collide at an NFL quarterback has certainly ignited a firestorm we're talking about Colin Kaepernick he's the San Francisco 49ers quarterback and he's been refusing to stand for the national anthem before all three preseason games in protest Ron is here with the reason behind his activism

02:46 And this reaction has been swift from every side. It really has, you know, Kaepernick who just a few years ago three years ago led the San Francisco 49ers to the Super Bowl is well known for speaking out on social issues but what he's doing now as a protest over police killings of African-Americans is drawing a huge reaction condemnation from many and support from others This morning the spotlight on football star Colin Kaepernick for taking a stand by refusing to stand The San Francisco 49ers quarterback remaining seated during the playing of the national anthem at three preseason games. A protest, he says over police brutality against African-Americans. Kaepernick saying in an interview I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color adding To me this is bigger than football And it would be selfish on my part to look the other way

03:40 Yeah, this is how most people were introduced to Colin Kaepernick's social actions. But of course we know there's a little bit more behind the story because I think he was just sitting down because he was tired and wasn't in the game if i recall correctly. Actually Let me give a little timeline prior to him sitting. Okay, so on June 4th Colin Kaepernick signed a record six year extension for $126 million that was June 4th on 2014 then he had some problems in San Francisco during that season and in November 2nd 2015 he was benched

04:28 And then that's when we came into February 26, 2016 as for trade. And then he came back the following season that was the August 26th 2016 and he was noticed sitting Sit notice the key word sitting doing the national anthem, right? Right sitting not kneeling sitting on the bench. You're right I remember now and that's gonna be a very important detail and we're gonna get to that but it was captured by Jennifer Lee Chan and she was the The photographer for the San Francisco 49ers as she captured her picture of him and tweeted it out Of him sitting at the back of the bench He wasn't very very back

05:08 On the sideline sitting on that bench while the other players are standing for the national anthem. So up to this point, he's taking a seat from what I thought was I think he thought think he was just being a malcontent because he wasn't the starter anymore He had some problems with injury and I just think that he, this is my personal opinion because I follow sports. That I just took it as him like I said being a malcontent because he didn't have the starting role that he was used to. Right and like a baby? Pretty much. Pouting yeah there you go. Like malcontents sounds so official

05:57 So, Harry Edwards we have to look and see who he is because he's important to the story. Sociologist Harry Edwards has been an activist from the day you realized that sport wasn't the toy department of human life. Edwards a professor emeritus at Cal Berkeley was the chief organizer of The Olympic Project for Human Rights and a guiding force behind John Carlos and Tommy Smith 1968 Olympic protests Decades later, he's advised Colin Kaepernick on his protests and publicly advocated for the quarterbacks return to the NFL. A former basketball player at San Jose State Edwards first organized protest at his alma mater over the years He's worked for a number of sports teams and leagues consulting on issues of diversity

06:40 Because of his outspokenness he's received death threats and been viewed by the FBI as a national security threat As Edward said recently the last words out of his mouth will probably be I protest He's done it this whole life changing the sports world in the process Right, and I think Kaepernick was friends with him or talk with him or took advice from him. Oh Well, he was Kaepernick's quote unquote mentor or advisor. Or if you're from the school of thought I have handler. Nice yes of course honestly I honestly believe Colin Kaepernick is a useful idiot

07:21 And some have used the term I've heard in the conspiracy realm of a MK-ultra. So, what we know for sure Mr Harry Edwards has been advising him and it makes nothing but sense if he advised him on taking the seat Because as they mentioned in the previous clip, he advised Carlos Edwards and I forget the other gentleman's name to make the process at the 68 Olympics with the black fist. Right? The Black Power fist. Yeah so he was the brains behind that.

08:01 So this is where we are. In the next clip, we're going to hear Mr Harry Edwards speak on Colin Kaepernick. So what's the next step for modern day athletes in what you call The Struggle? Now the thing is power and the issue becomes for them how do we frame it up so that we can move forward and make our contribution. Right now, Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers a team that I've been with for 31 years is the face of that effort we have a lot of work to do in terms of trying to figure out exactly where this is going to end up in terms of the framing. And how are you helping him frame that?

08:43 Well, basically it's an ongoing conversation. He is very bright. Colan is very bright and he is very committed More than anything else, he wants to have a constructive impact. He understands the evolution of this movement in athletics going back to the pre-World War II years. He's aware of that. More than anything else I try to answer his questions and put everything into perspective and give him a broader handle on exactly where is and what he's involved in

09:23 much as anything else the price, the cost of what he is doing and he's good with all that. Okay interesting so he's been briefed on what it's like to be an activist I gotta say two things about that first of all Harry Edwards looks badass i'm looking at his picture on Wikipedia he's bad- he's like a shaft guy yeah He keeps saying colon. What's up with that? I caught that too, I don't know if it's just a weird pronunciation of his name but yeah i picked up on that as well but he says he uh Colin almost said colon myself Colin was aware of the price that was going to cost him right

10:16 When we look at Colin Kaepernick, and I have to say this up until this point before him taking the seat he was not known or a little bit before taking the seat. He wasn't known as an activist. No he was a GQ pretty boy Yes that's what he was known for even Even to the point where he I can't find a picture and i've challenged anybody that i've talked to, I will give them $100. To find Colin Kaepernick in a tray von hoodie or trademark martin hoody?

10:52 Because that was the easiest protest to have on your social media account. When Trayvon Martin was killed, one of the protests you saw was people taking pictures with their hoodie on. You saw it even all way up to Congress. I mean politicians everybody but i cannot find one single picture Colin Kaepernick with the hoodie on now and that's just that strange to me. Now, do you have a Trayvon hoodie? No Okay Why wouldn't he why would he have one because I was what everybody was doing it was everybody It was like it was almost like a challenge You know account in that kind of vibe did if you had um, you know what people change their filter on there

11:44 on their icons, on social media. It was that kind of thing it was like so for him to be a so-called quote unquote activist or social justice warrior and not to be absent Just I think that speaks to that. He is new to this game, right? Okay agreed That makes sense he I do have a picture of it come trying to get my hundred bucks I have a picture of him in the hoodie But it's his own hoodie It's the dear racism on not my grandparents sincerely these hands Yeah So you're not gonna you can post that you can find pictures even with him which Rayvon Martin's parents but at the time

12:25 On his social media. I haven't found it anywhere and nobody has collected $100 so Gotcha, so Now we have to look at who all has a vested interest in Colin Kaepernick being activist There's a few people that I want to bring to light that people may not be aware of one of them being Miss Nessa Diab Which is Colin Kaepernick's girlfriend. Before we get into the next clip about her, I want to give a little background on how they got together. Well Nessa Diab used to date Colin Kaepernick's teammate Alden Smith

13:12 And there was a report and I didn't want to get into the gossipy side too much of this story. Uh, and the political side that we normally pay attention to. But they supposedly got into a fight and it was well reported on several sports news stations. They got to our locker room fight in the root cause was behind she started dating Colin and broke it off with Alden. So that's how they came about. So let's just get into some background on Miss Nessa Diep.

13:50 I understand that you're dating Colin Kaepernick. He is We're talking about him a lot these days he is amazing What are your thoughts on him sitting and the kind of the controversy that's surrounding? I support him 100% You know, and I think it's amazing that he's able to exercise his freedom of speech And I think that that's what makes being an American amazing is that we can be open and we can say these things. And this is something that's important, and I think that we should use this to have open dialogue and take steps to make this country a better place to live in. Now did y'all have like a conversation before this? Did you know it was coming?

14:29 Did you think he ever anticipated it would blow up this big? Because I mean, you'd think it's not that serious. Colin truly feels this. He lives this and its from his heart and thats what makes this so beautiful because this wasn't pre-planned. I couldn't resist man, four amazings in there. And uh... I knew you were gonna do it! I knew you were gonna do it! And there was an unh-unhh-unnh-unhhh part of it. It's all kind of... that's just me paying attention to how people speak Well now its important that you caught that because we have to do the background on Miss Nessa Diaz. She she's from Cal Berkeley

15:13 as well as Mr. Harry Edwards, she was a STAR student, she started Cal Berkeley at 17, graduated with... Did you take sociology classes from the professor? Communications! She's a popular DJ on one of the popular urban radio stations in New York She worked with MTV. KTU? BLS? I think it was Power 95? Yes, Power 95. Don't quote me on that but one of the major two... I think it's 106 and 95 One of the major 2 she was a DJ there She was on the popular show Girl Code on MTV Have you ever seen that Girl Code show

16:02 Yes. Oh my God, it's jarring! It is a fine piece of mind control they have going there There you go, that's it So in this clip she says that her and Colin didn't discuss this which if either way I read it If you want to believe that they didn't discuss this then this was just a spur-of-moment thing he had going and had no plan as what people want Painting ads to be all he had this grand plan to bring social awareness But I don't believe that. I don't believe that I believe that it was discussed because just a little foreshadowing here She yeah, she's gonna play a very active role in this protest as we start going down the clips here and

16:58 So I don't think she just got pulled in at the last minute. Alright, so this is a data point of you saying as we unfold the mind control or whatever she could also be a sub-handler is what we're saying here? Oh, we're gonna get there. As always... Take off the goggles! No put on the goggles! Put on the future restricting goggles! Hold on I think yes I do have to put those on where I don't even here they are let me put my glasses on one second takes a minute okay thank you future is now black okay inside joke nice

17:46 So there was one more influence that the media doesn't talk about, and that is the transgender female Mia Isabella. The other name you get linked up with a lot and it's especially been happening more because he has been in the news Colin Kaepernick. Is that something your going to be addressing on the podcast? Is there a story to address there? I'll take my time with that. Yeah, that's somebody that I extremely respect extremely you actually care for extremely I think it's an incredible person the The braveness that he's showing now I admire and I feel like maybe had something to do with it making him feel Bold enough to be the kind of person. He's become lately How did you do that we had a great friendship great connection, and we talked a lot? I'll say that during the tiger situation someone saw some kind of social media by the way I should point out something that you were like You were like okay. I have this plan with Tiger And what if we ever got if we ever got exposed

18:49 We would just tell everybody that we were really good friends. Oh shit, and then I was like hey what about Colin Kaepernick? Well, I'll say we're just really good Okay, this is interesting Mia Isabella you set her up as a transgender she's a Transgender pornographic actress Well, I wouldn't know all that. I mean i'm doing show notes these days and i'm doing the wiki page and here it is Mia Isabella right show notes right An American transgender oh former i'm sorry former pornographic actress as she won her last avn award

19:34 She's the adult video awards. Oh no, she won an X-Biz award in 2014 I guess she quit the biz after that one. She left on a high note Well my question is just from the...I'm gonna take it from the intersectionality standpoint Why is she not all over the news? She would be perfect right? Right! Colin stands with the transgender community Yeah I think i know why because that would hurt him in other demographics. Black men who watch football? Pretty much, yeah. I can understand that sure so just leading up to the next clip how was she made not to be in the spotlight

20:32 But you do you think you inspired him to be bold? He inspired me. I think even during the situation that I was going through this was a person who made sure he keep in contact with me and made sure to kind of just make me feel like I could stand up to anything and I think it was probably an important moment for him as well to see how the world was reacting to me and how people were kind of just really trashing me, and how I was still trying my best to stand tall and represent and protect people. Extremely low point. I was frightened Is that because it was after the Taiga stuff? Was all happening? I was frightened during the Taiga, and I was so afraid of what was happening I didn't know what was going on like I said when you're dealing with crisis management people contacting you and attorneys and PR people And all that all the media like every show out there I'm on TMZ. I'm on Wendy Williams see all this stuff happening, and I'm just like what in the world is going on All right, I missed something. I missed the the taiga fight What did I miss

21:33 Okay, so Tiger is a rapper. Thanks. Thanks Moe give me a little bit of credit just the teeny bit of credit okay I'm giving this title who used to date Kylie Jenner Oh Isabella came out and somehow got linked to tiger mm-hmm And that's when the whole whirlwind started up about her with Tyga and she like said crisis managers, attorneys TMZ. I'm asking myself Tyga is nowhere as big a celebrity as Colin Kaepernick is. So why didn't he have all the crisis management going on? Exactly

22:18 Using when something is missing. It's meant to be there on purpose, when something is like I mean that's why I played that last clip to show you that's the normal course of these things happening and tigers are way smaller celebrity As I stated before, then Colin Kaepernick. So you would expect the same thing TMZ would be knocking down her door They will be chasing her around trying to put a microphone in her face What what you know about Colin? What do you know about Colin but none of that happened How do you not how do you know that Tyga or that Colin is a much bigger celebrity? I mean it's It's hard for me to see sports guys at a music celebrity level But that's just me because they don't have that background

23:02 It's because he crossed over, I mean he was a pretty big star just being a sports star. But even now he made it bigger than when he played football. He is a social media Superstar now got it. I mean even his silhouette is Iconic at this point yeah iconic and designed as such exactly So just getting off of the background people, I just want to lay all those people out there and you know just to say who was in his circle? A nice crowd. He's got a bunch of good friends! Why are there people missing from the story why are their people that is highlighted in this story and then we're gonna see how they all play out in the future but I wanna do the background during the laying down on foundation there

24:04 So now we have to ask, why was it such a big deal that he took a knee during the national anthem? Do you have any clue or ideas? Yes, I do. Yes, I do Moe and the reason why i do is because we looked at this story on no agenda and the biggest problem is it's a television show and that the television show is paid for by sponsors in a big one around the time of the anthem is the United States military who pay millions of dollars to have jets fly over and soldiers marching on the field, flags and all kinds of stuff.

24:49 Number seven there's a scheme involving the Pentagon that Congress is trying to shut down. It's called paid patriotism We're talking about millions of dollars that are being funneled from the Pentagon to professional sports teams around the country every single year in return these sports teams honor American soldiers and they promote the military at their sporting events I guess you could think of it as sort of like product placement. You know, Jose? You're watching your favorite YouTube video might not seem like a commercial but in the back there's a perfect can of Bud Light just facing right towards you that wasn't an accident! It is a commercial that these advertisers want to put in your face without you knowing that it's actually an advertisement that you're watching this is sort of the same thing according to John McCain who actually looked really into and then that's in itself surprising Republicans are going after this I think

25:35 Awesome. Anyway, according to John McCain who's now our Senate Armed Services Committee chairman since 2012 the Pentagon paid at least 6.8 million dollars in contracts to teams in the NFL, the MLB NHL and the MLS Major League Soccer yes there is a soccer league in this country Yeah it's less than I thought that was for one year? yeah and they said um...I think that number goes way bigger It goes to the NFL not the teams right? Right because then they had these individual deals. Yeah, well they own the television rights. The NFL owns the TV rights so... So per action per team there was still more money being funneled to the teams like if you recognize this particular person will give you 20k I mean homework yeah so it's just not

26:31 It's bigger than me saying it has to be. So let's just get into the second part of this clip. I have the number here, the New York Jets football team received $20,000 from the Pentagon for what? Just to recognize one or two New Jersey Army National Guard soldiers at halftime kind of hailing them as hometown heroes. I've seen that a games before they kind of come in and they say their names and everyone applauds But I didn't know that the Pentagon was secretly paying for these kinds of things. Now, I'm all for promotion of the military. I don't mind if I'm watching television and I see those commercials for the Marines or whatever. I think it's necessary. I don't blame them. Everyone does that but at the same time if the Pentagon is doing in a way we don't know kind of like how Bud Light sneaks their little cans in there, I almost feel like they're trying to brainwash the masses. Am I looking into this too much? Am I being too sensitive? It just seems weird they kind of do it

27:24 secretive way. It kind of changes how they're going about it and it's weird. Yeah, we call this native advertising. It's been around for a while and uh...it's-of course the whole point is to be subversive, to sneak in and since were talking about mind control that's totally what it is And so sports is almost synonymous with war if you listen to the terminology you got the bomb, you got the blitz yeah you know um The wishbone. Oh wait, that's not military. Yeah the gridiron... I mean a lot of it yeah a lot and a wishbone but a lot of it yeah A lot of the terms are um... Yeah military terms Of course! Are military terms You got uniforms you're fighting fight fight fight yes of course and then but this is human nature and you know humans need this This is what the Romans figured out now we need to games We need otherwise we're gonna go beat each other up

28:20 bread and circuses And this is where a lot of people got pissed off with Colin Kaepernick, and I was one of them don't interject politics into my football mind control Yes You'd like you like to buy the Gatorade and all the other stuff that their mind controlling you with but not at the politics part That's going too far. Yeah, not even It's okay. I have to admit, I'm a huge fantasy sports guy, fantasy football, fantasy basketball and for three to four hours a week it allows me to unwind and not think about anything else that is going on in the world except my little fancy team and my group of 11 other guys that I had our fantasy league with And we kind of go back to childhood

29:11 Right. Well, you can ask me all you want but I'm not into fantasy anything well right But of course I understand yeah totally get that so when you start injecting bull crap bull crap crap it to my mental escape Because that's what it is. I mean, television is... Even though I'm probably one of the most aware people when it comes to mind control and propaganda and all these things we all have that little thing that we tap into That's our escape

29:49 For a few hours, whether it's reality TV show or whatever. So mine is sports so I can empathize with people that say what the hell are you doing man? I don't want to talk about social justice issues or politics during my three hour football game It had nothing to do with what he was protesting You even had the people bring this up with, um... With like the breast cancer and the guys wearing pink. Like why are they wearing pink for? But I mean it's not like- Pink socks, pink shoes sure Yeah so you can't but it's not something you- I mean there's no pro brocan- Breast cancer uh people out there So it's not I mean it's a lot like it's polarizing Oh right yeah good point

30:36 You have this propaganda going on at the pre-game, and then you have this guy that is the fly in the ointment interrupting that. So something had to change. The question was why Colin Kaepernick took the knee? What was your initial response when you saw that Colin Kaepernick sat for the national anthem? I'll be completely honest, my initial response was anger. You know? I was angry and disappointed because i grew up a Niner fan and I was pulling for this guy now he just pissed on my flag but then I just stopped making all these judgments and tried to listen to what he's talking about specifically his police brutality the more I thought about it the more I was like...I want to try to understand where he's coming from at least somewhat because I haven't walked around in his shoes but he hasn't walked around in my boots you know what I mean so I just wrote a letter and he got ahold of it

31:32 He contacted you? Yeah, he contacted me. He said he was inspired by it and he was wanting to sit down with me and just have a discussion. First thing he said when we met was I just want you know that appreciate your service more than anything. I expressed to him maybe there's a different way to demonstrate where you're showing more respect for those that lay down their lives for what that flag in Anthem stands for. I suggested kneeling because people kneel to pray. We'll kneel in front of a fallen brother's grave to show respect. And he said I think that would be really powerful. Colin Kaepernick choosing not to sit on the bench this time But to take a knee the fact that he was willing to listen and go to a knee versus sitting I thought was huge That's an important step that he's taken. I think other people need to take a step too, and maybe listen to him Yeah, I remember this And this is for me the weirdest link in the story because I believe this is a green beret

32:18 And the Green Beret is the one who said, who urged him instead of sitting which was not in protest because well we just I mean that's obvious because he was pouty. So i'm not sure what did the... What's the guy's name? The Green Beret? Nate Boyer. He fits in somehow but it's never really been investigated until today hopefully We're gonna we're gonna go to all the answer. Mr. Nate warrior, but good now Adam I'm this Super woke such social justice warrior and here to come his Green Beret army guy Telling me a you only be sitting down You need to take a knee and I say oh yeah it okay good idea That doesn't sound very plausible to me at all um so

33:17 We have to get into who is this Nate Boyer character? Why him, why Nate Boyer with a controversy that straddled both football and patriotism. Why was his perspective so unique? He was actually interested in joining the military right out of high school but after 9-11 he really wanted to join the special forces you want to become a Green Beret. He was deployed initially to Iraq He got out of the Army for a short period and that's when he applied to University of Texas. Boyer wasn't your typical college player, he tried to make the Longhorns football team as a 31-year old walk on An older guy that wasn't a tremendous athlete That didn't play high school football That wants to join a national championship program I mean come on now

34:15 Yeah, come on now. Interesting. Yeah interesting hmm 31 years old and wants to join the Longhorns The number like I mean national championship level longhorns team yes And he somehow walks on as a long snapper which is probably the least important position on a football team. All right, you got to explain the long snapper is when someone's field goal for field goal I'm just guessing yeah That's the guy that hikes the ball back To the kicker or the place the God is holding them off with another gotta keep ya this enters only job I never realized that wasn't the regular quarterback who does that center? Oh

35:06 Yeah, that's what I mean. Center. Of course it's the center! Oh yeah. But he is a special type of center which is called the long snapper. Yeah because he does one thing very well That's it all you gotta do is get the ball back to the guy's hands Right and they let the 31 year old walk on Green Beret special force guy soldier Get the job, and he'd never played it organized football in his life ever Hmm. That's not suspicious at all

35:44 Nate Warrior 2. And he said, you're losing your first and second team deep snappers and I can do that. And I said have you ever done it? He said no never done a day in my life but we'll take a ball coach and I'm gonna go to Afghanistan and I will practice every day and I'll come back as your deep snapper. And I thought come on Nate this is going to work. He started on every snap for the next three years We had him take an American flag on the field every time we would come out. He became a team leader Many college football players have their summers off Boyer spent his with the Special Forces in Afghanistan After his college career ended in 2014, the 34 year old former Longhorn had another long shot in mind earning a spot

36:35 Oh, okay. Here's what I think... Sounds to me like this guy was doing a little bit of native advertising for the United States military and they placed him Initially with the Longhorns Which you know by the way, I live in Austin. It's a fine military industrial complex city Lots of spooks lots of stuff going on lots of retired military so it sounds like he was uh He was a part of his gig was promoting

37:26 America and military on the field. And it worked for both parties because now you have this guy, and they showed in this piece that I snagged a clip from which was from the NFL channel, NFL Films he's at the combine and that's where you have the potential players coming up for the draft and there is huge gaggle of press around him Now he's a 34 year old long snapper. Hmm, undersized not my words that was Max Browns words from the Longhorns

38:10 undersized 34 years old which at 34 years old you're over the hill end up you had the end of your prom for Professional football players now. Did you are did you already find this very suspicious in putting together your fantasy team? I'm sure he didn't include the shill no, I found it very As I started peeling back the layers, because as soon as I saw Colin Kaepernick in the news for making a political stance. I was like, what? Colin Kaepernick? That would be... First let me be honest with you. I'm going to be completely 100% honest with you. My first thing was Colin Kaepernick is black?!

38:52 You thought it was like some kind of Drake? I thought he was very racial. We use his term racially ambiguous, and he could be Hispanic. He could be Arab. I mean you didn't know when we saw him especially when has haircut short as he that's how he looks much more Hispanic than right so i was like that was my first thing was that took me back. Like he's black and then after that He, like you said he's a GQ model. Yeah. He wasn't concerned with because you have certain players in the NFL that are known for being outspoken on social issues. You have Michael Bennett. What's the guy from Seattle Seahawks? I forget his name but it's just a few of them that you know but not this guy, not Colin Kaepernick. Is Kaepernick Ados?

39:51 I don't know what he is. The reason why i say that, his mother is white which doesn't mean that doesn't matter and they don't speak of his father and he was adopted by a white family at five weeks old so we do not know much about his history which it does not matter in the grand scheme of things because this is the Mo Facts show yeah it was just shocking that he was black period I mean, because and the reason why let me explain why say this for people like what does it matter when a black quarterback comes in the NFL? That's usually they label it as our black quarterback. I mean cuz the Yes, so you can't do we have a Super Bowl in recent memory with two black quarterbacks and they made a big deal out of it

40:48 Yes, and every time a black quarterback goes to the Super Bowl they make a big deal out of it. Every time a black quarterback is drafted they make a big deal out of it because Ammo is the black quarterback. He's gonna play a certain style of football ah And that was the that was knock against the black quarterback because they were like in the 70s and 60s They don't have the mental capacity to To play the position, you know so really Yeah You even did it with the sports announcer voice I like that well clearly these Americans don't have the mental capacity for quarterbacking

41:27 That was the justification. So we were very sensitive when a black quarterback comes into the NFL, so that's what took me back about Colin Kaepernick. Then when the Green Beret thing came up I'm like hold on and then you're supposed to be this quote unquote radical then you let a military guy come in tell you to take a knee which as he said in the clip himself taking a knee is like a sign of Obedience. Yes, so I was like a bull crap I mean I started calling bullcrap from the very beginning which was very unpopular I wish it's very common for me to be on the very popular side Not with the IT girls huh? Yeah, yeah, I'm just you know Just the troublemaker mmm so

42:23 This thing plays out and he's taking his knee, and then he gets his job back to play football. And he still taken a knee for the 49ers in the same season that he originally started taking the knee. But even Colin Kaepernick is certain things that no black person could ever say And he touched the third rail of blackdom, of not voting. At this point I'm sure Colin Kaepernick is used to receiving backlash but after letting it be known that he had no intentions of voting many of his supporters jumped off the bandwagon so young Kap felt compelled to explain his position via a conference call with members of the press

43:04 I've been very disconnected from the systematic oppression as a whole," Kaepernick said. So for me, it's another face that is going to be the face of that system of oppression and to me it didn't really matter who went in there—the system remains intact that oppresses people of color." Never mind that University of Alabama football coach Nick Saban admitted he wasn't even aware there was an election… The media—and namely Stephen A Smith sounded off on Kaepernick for not voting, as if not voting negates the money he's donated and programs that he has implemented since his protests became public. Now did he announce this or how did this come to light? That he was not voting

43:42 I think it was one of those TMZ kind of things where they're like on the street and they put a mic in your face, ask you about the election. And he was like yeah i'm not voting because both of them are bad. I mean this did very simplify what his statement was. Why is this why is this the third rail? Because if you're black you gotta vote! Gotcha Even just for some context...I get feedback now for my stance on this show Like, how dare you tell people not to vote? You know. Well I'll give you an example of what it sounds like. ESPN host slams Colin Kaepernick. I appreciated what you said about Colin Kaepernick as someone who's 54 registered to vote when i turned 18. I've never in my life missed voting in an election. Neither have I. Expand on what you had to say expand on what you had to say about him

44:39 Well, listen. The fact is he had every right to protest and when he was talking about racial injustices and things of that nature you certainly could understand where he was coming from it was a quiet protest He didn't impede anybody's ability to watch the game to come to the games or anything like that which is why I'd went on Good Morning America, my show first take on ESPN2 every weekday from 10 a.m to 12 noon and other outlets to support him however the second that he decided that he was not going to vote and then to publicly reveal that he wasn't voting I thought it was egregious to the highest order i thought it compromised everything that he was standing for more importantly I thought it was a disrespect to our ancestors two people who have bled in fought and died

45:24 for him to have the right to do that. And then also take into account the fact that we have a president who is outgoing in Barack Obama, who captured 93 percent of the black vote, who obviously black folks come out and support he went before the Congressional Black Caucus and went campaigning on behalf of Hillary Clinton basically imploring our community to activate itself in this election if you had any respect whatsoever for his legacy. I need a bell just around me all the time, which is when I hear that word activate, I got to ring the bell too. Yes okay so he was not on board with the program, he didn't want to activate for Hillary and that's when he got canceled and what were his reasons behind this? Because he understood his fan base

46:16 He's very conscious of what I'm not gonna say he because I don't think he's very I'll say it doesn't look that smart. I don't think I'm smart I'll save this because the reason why I wouldn't say smart because he was a 4.0 student in hell, okay? We'll take that back. I don't think he's aware and there's very a lot of reasons for that being a biracial person that was raised by a total white family, growing up in a total white community. He's not as aware of race as a quote-unquote typical black person. Well he didn't have the same upbringing where you got to vote was hammered into you so it's... Right! Yeah okay So when he says these things but I think him not voting with very calculated because

47:12 If you link him as it loosely is to Black Lives Matter, that was a large portion of his... Because you gotta look at these things. They were running concurrent at the same time. Black Lives Matter 2016 they were on a meteoric rise so was Kaepernick and they kind of merged together. Yeah they converged. Right! They converged and for him and you know Black Lives Matter was very anti-establishment and anti Hillary Clinton So for him to come out and say yeah, and be used as a tool for Hillary Clinton then that would damage his brand. And this is all about brand here. Yes okay so it was very calculated I think wisely calculate I mean a lot of his moves

47:59 That looks stupid. You have to understand they look stupid because you're thinking about not you, but people are thinking about him in terms of him getting back into the NFL right now he's thinking I'm going to build this brand because I wasn't that good of a football player last time I played. Even if I get back in NFL, I'll be mediocre at best now. He will be better than half of the guys that are Either starting quarterback or backup quarterbacks? I'll give him net credit and I think that's a very indisingenuous argument when people say oh he wasn't good enough to play No It's a lot of trash quarterbacks in NFL right now. Well, so you got but you gotta have a certain amount

48:42 Well, it could be wokeness or I mean awareness for sure. If you know okay wait a minute if I'm not that I mean he made a career choice. I'm not good that greater player and You know, I've got a brand and I think a lot of things happened You know the hair change will I'm sure we'll get to that or maybe not but the hair change was a significant That's that was a true branding move And how is it media? I make us nothing when he was Start pro said right away had that big afro. So he had the Afro he was ready. He was ready for casting Yeah, okay. Now you're right you're right You're right so that the decision had already been made and then of course he's in his mind He's already thinking okay I don't win if I if I come out publicly for Trump because no one does and I don't win if I come out publicly for Clinton because of the black lives matter Convergent convergence with what? Okay got it. I'm there So you asked a question about his handlership

49:46 It started off in my opinion, it started off with Mr. Harry Edwards but there was a transition because and this is quoting from May 11th articles for ESPN 2017. Mr. Harry Edwards made a statement that three teams have inquired about Colin Kaepernick advisor says and he goes on to talk about the teams that were interested in Colin Kaepernick right? But immediate after that, Nessa Diab refused to claim. So this is where the handler, his handlers made a transition from it being Mr Harry Edwards being handed over to Miss Nessa Diab. Well Vic many fans want to know how close were the Ravens deciding Colin Kaepernick? Ray Lewis says they were about to close this deal but one tweet changed it all

50:48 824 in the AM Baltimore Ravens making headlines yet again. The whole Colin Kaepernick mess, Colin Kaepernick and Ray Lewis are at center stage with Louis shedding light on why the Ravens backed away from the controversial quarterback. Nobody had this kid a job in the National Football League I can raise my hand and say, I did. Once a star for the 49ers poor play in a protest to the national anthem quite a moment here in San Francisco has Kaepernick looking for a new job? I'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed when Joe Flacco was first injured The Ravens expressed interest in Kaepernick but never signed him shortly after Kaepernicks girlfriend slammed owner Steve Bishotti and Ray Lewis posting a tweet that mirrors the movie picture of a house slave hugging his racist master. The only thing that went bad

51:34 The only thing that went bad was that image where she tried to make us a racist. Lewis on Showtime's Inside the NFL We were gonna close the deal! To sign him? To sign him, all we wanted to hear was hear Colin Kaepernick speak Then his girl goes out and puts out this racist gesture She doesn't know we're in the back office about to try and get this guy to sign Yeah but maybe she did know I guess perfect timing. Why, if your goal is to get back into the NFL, why would your girlfriend AKA? Your handler tweet out a picture of she had on one side she had the owners that are Baltimore Ravens being hugged by Ray Lewis, the legendary

52:27 iconic linebacker from the Baltimore Ravens on one side and then she had a picture of Django Unchained with the quote-unquote Uncle Tom house slave hugging the white slave owner. Why would you do that if your goal is to get back in NFL? Yeah, that doesn't seem like that's your goal. Well of course he didn't do it but she did it and of course he immediately broke up with her and publicly said she was a horrible person right? Not at all! And just as a side note Baltimore Ravens have taken a black quarterback

53:12 I'm drawing blanks today. They have a currently have a black quarterback that they drafted and he's been very successful in their system so much so that he's being in, in the running for MVP talk. So Colin Kaepernick could've played that set. He had the same skill set on Lamar Lamar Jackson is his name it hadn't come back to me. He had the same skillset as Lamar Jackson And he could have had the same level of success because they built a system around his skills of running the football, you know and well not get too much in sports but he could have had similar success. But I don't think that's what was... That's not what is wanted for Khaled Kaepernick. No apparently not

53:58 Once again, he becomes toxic. He overcame the voting thing NFL teams are looking at him again Was there any more conversation with his girlfriend? It was she interviewed did she give any decent explanation of what she was thinking not at all Okay, so this oh this is that's odd too. There was no TMZ interview Why did you ruin your boyfriend's career none of that none of that huh okay? So now Mr. Colin Kaepernick is completely toxic, the kneeling thing had died down but then enter Mr Donald Trump It was a remarkable show of solidarity and defiance aimed directly at Donald Trump In stadium after stadium anthem after anthem National Football League players on one knee

54:58 Others with raised fists or locked arms, sometimes along with team owners. Some teams staying in their locker rooms for the anthem some anthem singers themselves joining the protest All of it a response to Trump's comments Friday about players who protest this way who in Trump's view disrespect the US flag Get that son-of-a-bitch off the field right now out he is fired Trump and his supporters frame it as unpatriotic, but the protests are aimed at highlighting racial inequality in the U.S.. That's why former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick began it last year a move say some that cost him his career as no team hired Kaepernick this season

55:48 But Trump's comments and his calls to now boycott the NFL, and the view by many. Trump is sympathetic to racist views... And all of a sudden this. Yeah so Trump used Colin Kaepernick in the NFL for two reasons one I think it was doing the Roy Moore election when he was in Alabama. Was Alabama Mississippi? I forget one of the two, but they had pretty sure is Alabama. It was Alabama right that's why he made this comment so he needed some deflection from that whole debacle that was going on down there because I mean Roy Moore was the worst candidate ever but he had to back him right yeah cuz

56:38 No, no because of the allegations that were made against him about the young girls or whatever. I mean it was just... True or not it was just bad optics to have to support a guy like that right? So he needed some attention. You think Trump did it for that reason? Well I'm gonna get to- That's one reason but the second reason is he hates NFL. Trump hates NFL! Yes let me explain the history to you okay so Mr.. Is his craft guy his buddy Yeah, Kraft is his buddy. Jerry Jones from the Cowboys is his buddy but the NFL... Okay Trump once had a team in the USFL which was a direct competitor of the NFL and he sued the NFL and won a Monopoly case

57:29 He won, he only won three dollars. I mean they ruled in his favor This is like the 90s? Is this early 90's i think? Late 80's early 90's somewhere around that period I was in New York at the time so I kind of remember that and I remember it was like And he had a team too, didn't he put a team together for his league? Yeah. He had a team and then USFL yeah! They were playing football in the springtime but then he moved it in direct competition with NFL in the fall so that I mean... So he sued him and won but then the other thing was Mr Trump

58:09 Try to buy a team in the NFL and the way it works is to get a team in the NFL even if you have The money yes, they have to be able to be invited. Yeah, you got it. It's uh yeah It's the billionaire boys club is what it is, right? It's like my fantasy league. You know I mean that's what it is for billionaires. I mean they have their teams Most of them make money elsewhere and it's just their passion So they're like we're not letting this guy Trump in you know so that really gall trump like oh okay You don't want to sell me a team because he tried about above low bills so

58:46 Just to back up my claims, we have Jaguar owner Khan speaking on Trump. President Trump hasn't been shy about voicing his displeasure with the NFL and one owner says the president's attacks on the league are personal. Jaguars owner Shahid Khan told USA Today that the president's assault against the NFL is quote about money or messing with trying to soil a league or brand that he's jealous of The president has railed on the NFL on social media for its handling of the national anthem controversy. Though most owners were hesitant to comment on the president as they wrapped up league meetings in New York, Khan was very candid. Trump was unsuccessful in attempting to purchase the Buffalo Bills back in 2014 and Khan reportedly thinks

59:32 That could be a motivating factor, saying he's been elected president where maybe a great goal he had in life to own an NFL team is not very likely. So to make it tougher or to hurt the league? It's very calculated. Well, Trump is definitely someone who's on record saying as he believes in retaliation so yeah and just to give this guy con and credibility in his claim He's donated to Trump election election fund So it's weird, it's this weird thing going on between these billionaires. I mean they're very petty in certain ways. Yes they are! So the NFL... This is what called the second wave and a huge as they said in previous clips and one which was played, It was league-wide protests

1:00:23 All the guys were taking a knee. Some guys were raising their fists, players was walking out of practice... Staying in the locker room even? Yeah! I'm talking about doing practice they wasn't even practicing So the NFL owners had to take action and what they did was they put together this fund I think of like 88 million dollars to donate towards minority causes Minority causes not black lives matter, but minority causes. Okay? Yeah so that kind of smooth things over well

1:01:03 It caused a rift between Colin Kaepernick and NFL players. Now I want to introduce another, but I didn't do any clips because there's not many clips to have on him. But one thing Colin Kaepernick is known not to do is talk nobody heard here hears him talk all he does his tweet But he has his attack dog, Eric Reid. Eric Reid was a guy that played with him in San Francisco and took a knee with him when he was taking these knee every time. Collar cabinet has beef with somebody. Eric Reid addresses it either verbally or even attempting to physically approach people so we have Stephen A Smith speaking on Eric Rea versus Malcolm Jenkins. Let's get into the particulars for example

1:01:53 The $89 million, did y'all know that part of the agreement is that the owners will match whatever the players contribute up to a quarter of a million dollars annually? To certain causes pertaining to the African American community. The kind of issues that Colin Kaepernick and others were talking about addressing we know this if you don't know it, you know it now number two The NFL, Colin Kaepernick himself, Eric Reid himself. They were never protesting against the National Football League and its owners. They were protesting against society in terms of wanting to bring attention to racial oppression, racial inequality and other things pertaining to disenfranchised communities throughout our nation. They were not complaining against the National Football League. Yeah, here I come on television network and I say hey

1:02:46 We got a little problem, you know we're getting this you know lot of flack about our telecast and it's too controversial in the military. You know they don't want to buy as many ads around the program because you know they kind of ruining our flyover mm-hmm so This had to end So just as fill people in on who Malcolm Jenkins is, Malcolm Jenkins was the guy that came in and said you know what he was the face of the players association to say you know what we can monetize this thing for charities. And basically they hijacked Colin Kaepernick's movement which is what player associations do very well by the way

1:03:34 Well, I mean that's what people do all the time. If you just want to complain about something and don't want to monetize it there is somebody out there saying we can monetize this thing and thats what they did and NFL owners found them favorable to work with because they weren't being anarchist So they came to this agreement, $89 million as it is said in the clip. And that caused like I said a rift between the Colin Kaepernick faction which included Eric Reid against Malcolm Jenkins and the Players Association and we'll hear Steven A speaking more about it in part two. Number three

1:04:14 When you talk about Malcolm Jenkins and the Players' Coalition, they're saying their priority wasn't Colin Kaepernick. Their priority were the issues. We even have Josh Norman quoted on the record beefing with Eric Reid over a conference call written by an article in our very own The Undefeated where he was saying to Eric Reid let's just be real about What's going on here? Where is Colin Kaepernick to speak up for himself and oh by the way this is bigger than just one man. We understand that what's happening to Colin Kaepernick is wrong but this issue is bigger than him and if we're about uplifting and helping our communities, that takes precedent!

1:04:54 So once again Colin Kaepernick finds himself on the outside Yeah You see his trend here of this Getting close to coming back to the NFL and then something happens in it, you know It's just Bob and we've been it seems like if I looked at it from a handler perspective. It was like, okay Let him get close controversy pull them back and we're gonna go over there but let him get close controversy and pull them back that's kind of what it feels like And that's exactly what it seems like to me as well. So then in steps Nike, Nike is defending its controversial new ad campaign after backlash from President Trump and other critics in an interview the president said Nike is sending a terrible message he says by partnering with unsigned NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick but he added their freedom to do so was what this country is all about

1:05:47 Kaepernick triggered the NFL player protests against social injustice back in 2016 by kneeling during the national anthem. CBS This Morning's Saturday co-host, Dana Jacobson joins us at the table. She has been following the Nike controversy from the beginning. Good morning. Good morning. This is not going away and this season hasn't even started yet. An NFL executive, at least one, has expressed support for Kaepernick saying in part the social justice issues that Colin and other professional athletes have raised deserve our attention and action. But Nike's decision is also fanning the flames on social media. Nike's controversial endorsement of Colin Kaepernick is reigniting the debate over NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem.

1:06:32 So Nike comes in they make him part of the just do it campaign. What was the size of his deal at the time? Do you know it was it was undisclosed how much he made but it wasn't the millions I'm sure no doubt But one little caveat is Have you ever heard mr.. Mark Geragos yes lawyer in Los Angeles, he's a very famous lawyer Yes He was mark Garagos was calling Kaepernick's attorney and But yeah, he's also tied in with something to do it Nike as well

1:07:09 Business Insider reports lawyer Michael Avenatti was arrested and charged with attempting to extort $20 million from sportswear brand Nike on Monday. Avenatti's basis for the alleged extortion attempt was that he had information related to the NCAA basketball scandal that would put Nike in a negative light. The attorney for adult film star Stormy Daniels allegedly tried to force Nike to pay up by threatening to harm the company if his demands were not met Later Monday, Nike responded by saying that it was complying with federal investigations in NCAA basketball and will not be extorted. Celebrity attorney Mark Garagos was named a co-conspirator in the Avenatti case which was filed in the Southern District of New York. Yeah I remember this and I remember making a deal about on no agenda And I got a number emails from people my friends who said oh man Garagos is an okay guy

1:08:01 So, you know I'm they weren't sure what was up with with Avenatti and what how that fit together But they were definitely I mean, yeah. I think he's also Adam Carolla's lawyer And speaking on the look the weird love triangle is going on there between Avenatti Nike and Garagos where? Garagos and Avenati were partners but then Avenatis trying to start Nike and And then you got Colin Kaepernick working for Nike and he's, Garagos is his lawyer. So it just has nothing to add to the story but it was just a weird little... No, it does because I think that's- It's a tactic cause this probably a Garagos tactic. It's like alright well we're gonna mess with you over here cause we need something for you for our cap

1:08:47 We're gonna make some trouble over here. And by the way, I never heard a follow-up It sounds totally plausible that Nike was you know the Nikes? scandalously Giving money to high school kids totally believable And and I remember they came out and I think they counter sued and then I don't know what happened So and that's also odd so why didn't they vigorously defend that make a big well Was there a lawsuit was their court ruling it kind of fizzled away. So it sounds like shenanigans Yeah, so I just add that in there. It doesn't have any value to the timeline it was just a weird little factoid. Do you have another question? What the hell station did you get that clip from where there's some British woman talking about our sport

1:09:34 That's the only place I could find anything on that subject. Okay all over the way, you know You're a researcher and you are so just to give the audio Back in my background. I need it. That's why I found it So that's one lawsuit. I mean but So, now Colin Kaepernick ends up settling the NFL roster because he was taken a knee during the national anthem. Now we don't know many details about this settlement, but Kaepernick had previously signaled that only a lucrative financial payout will convince him to drop the suit. What does this mean? And what does it mean for Kaepernick's future? He is 31 years old you would have to think he could still play if he wants Fox News contributor she used to be at ESPN where she thrived there Britt McHenry with her rich sports background Britt Michael Freeman respected NFL reporters reporting get this

1:10:42 that he's getting 60 million dollars. What does that tell you? It tells me, Brian, that money will make a problem go away or it will make a social justice warrior really happy and really rich but I have to tell you i did a little reporting my own. I reached out to an NFL source of mine, an NFL agent who said he would be shocked if that was the number Well it was the number wasn't it? Was high I thought Well, the Wall Street Journal came back and reported that was way low. We're talking about in single digit millions So that 60 was right after the settlement had like close finalized so I think that was a tactic this show they are kind of cabinet took Put put the NFL over-the-barrel kind of thing um in the law and the lawsuit was specifically because

1:11:29 He wasn't playing. Oh because they were teams were colluding not to have not to hire it's a black baller white baller Mahavir Yeah, that was Stop the show yes do you with your with your other friends say white balling instead of black bowling? No, that's a WOLT term. I just want to make sure! Okay good. Just check it man that's what the show is about too. I got to like...I wanna know what's going on all right yeah so that's the WOLT term for blackballing is white balling. I'm gonna use that everywhere now hey bro stop white-balling me okay I'm just practicing

1:12:14 But him settling didn't sit well with a lot of people because what they try to do was tie Colin Kaepernick and with Ali. That was the comparison, you know, Muhammad Ali for those people that don't know which it was a bull bullshit comparison excuse my language because Muhammad Ali was the best at his sport yes he refused to be used by the military industrial complex as we saw in previous shows go look it up how they use Joe Louis because he wasn't gonna put a gun in Ali's hand and you know make him go fight in Vietnam. Now, they wanted to do the Elvis trick

1:12:56 That was called the USO, I believe. Where you go around and do some exhibitions? They used Joe Louis as a Zack Sane way in World War II. But Ali was like no, I'm not going to do it for religious reasons that was his whole purpose he said i'm a minister for the nation of Islam and I'm not going to fight your war And he sat down for three years He didn't settle You know what I'm saying? He fought the whole thing So Colin Kaepernick settling really hurt his case And Stephen A. Smith took an issue with that." That's what I want to know. You don't sit up there and get to get martyred by everybody and their grandmother all of these over the last two years with everybody making a case about how he's being blackballed, he's being ostracized, and all this other stuff. You don't get to sit up there and send out tweets thanking Rihanna and other stars who refused to perform at halftime for the Super Bowl in protest in support of you!

1:14:07 because their belief was that you have been blackballed and as a nation of folks, particularly from the minority community that have been standing up screaming hooting and hollering about how you have been ostracized. How you had been mistreated? And then all of a sudden you quietly reach a settlement and we don't know what the hell it entails. That's my problem with all this." Mm-hmm everybody wants some little taste of that money. So Colin Kaepernick is on the outs again! This is, they're doing it very well. Whoever's running him, they're doing a good job. Because he was like man you took the money! You were supposed to take the NFL owners to trial... expose them for white balling you and that was the whole purpose from his backer standpoint of view

1:15:00 This is what they wanted to show, you know the power structure that they could be on Sam You know made to kneel for me pun intended. Okay, so Here we are present-day NFL, so we're gonna go to one of the most official sports references there is. The Real. So last night it was announced for the NFL that Colin Kaepernick was invited to a private workout in Atlanta this Saturday which means that this free agent man might have the chance to play on the NFL team again

1:15:40 I know if you didn't that he stirred up some controversy in 2016 when he took a knee to protest police brutality. So, I wanna know how do you guys feel about this chance of Colin being back on the NFL? Yeah! They love it. All four. Three years. I think that what Colin was kneeling for we're still working on- Yes. To try and improve police brutality but he brought attention to it. So much awareness. He sacrificed a lot. Well done. I just want to remind people that Colin opted out of his contract in 2017. He was not fired, he opted out of it to try and get more money and then what happened was with all the kneeling there were some controversy about bringing him back They had a settlement because there was a lawsuit about collusion to keep him out

1:16:32 They settled it. It was confidential, you know what happened? So we don't know actually what was the requirements but then it just seems like he was still getting blackballed Hey man did the ladies of The Real just alter history there No they laid out perfectly like it was and that's why I used that clip What did you find as altered That he opted out his contract in 2017 Maybe I misunderstood That's very factual. He had one more year left with the San Francisco 49ers and he opted out of that final year. Okay, well first of all now I'm happy that uh...I know that i can brush up on my football by watching The Ladies Of The Real

1:17:19 Happy about that. I like that Okay, so the so the reason why I use this clip is to answer The other question you had about his celebrity now do you see how big it is? Big big yes Gotcha So now and we're at present time The schedule was it last Saturday? Yeah. This the workout was and you made a stoop observation that this was a private combine for Mr. Colin Kaepernick, nobody has ever seen this before one player combined where all those were 25 teams were going to come to see him showcase his abilities but as expected on my part it didn't go off as planned

1:18:08 And it was, it ended and Mr. Colin Kaepernick coming from out of the shadows and actually getting front of microphones and having a rant. How's everybody doing? We're good, pretty good! Let me start by saying I appreciate y'all coming out that means a lot to me our biggest thing with everything today was making sure we had transparency in what went on. We weren't getting that elsewhere so we came out here it's important that you all are here Y'all been attacked for the last three years y'all continue to be attacked We appreciate what y'all do. We appreciate you being here today, we appreciate the work you do for the people and telling the truth that's what we want in everything I've been ready for three years i've been denied for three years we all know why i came out here showed it today in front of everybody we have nothing to hide so we're waiting for the 32 owners the 32 teams Roger Goodell all them to stop running stop running from the truth stop running from people

1:19:11 We're out here, we're ready to play. Ready to go anywhere my agent Jeff Nally is ready to talk to any team interview with any team at anytime I've been ready I'm staying ready and now continue to be ready And so all the people that came out here today to support I appreciate y'all I love you all To the people that aren't here I'm thinking of you I appreciate your support from where you are Will continue to give you updates as we hear We'll be waiting to hear from Roger Goodell, the NFL. The 32 teams will let you know if we hear from them balls in their court were ready to go So yeah I saw this and it got my interest because i know he doesn't talk And of course I learned that from you okay?

1:20:02 And I see him there and to me, here's what my Spidey sense told me. One he is wearing his Nike shirt like okay that's not you know when your a paid endorsement spokesmodel You don't put it on for free and you put it on when you're told to put it on, and there's always something associated with that. And the second one he kept saying we ready, we ready, we ready...and to me that felt like a just do-it type thing? It felt like a campaign? Yeah this whole thing was a media stunt! Let me be clear

1:20:40 Because I'm unbiased this whole thing was a media stunt from both sides The NFL put this thing on because they're having their heart your anniversary and they wanted to put a nice little Bowl on this whole Colin Kaepernick thing have it be over with right? Oh They know he doesn't want to play football. They know this as we see it now, it's like every time this guy gets the opportunity to play football something happens where he blows it himself so what we're gonna do is put on this huge spectacle in Atlanta and the blackest city in America invite him on down and then we're gonna let him put the ball in his court

1:21:23 But no, no, no. Then the handlers went... Colin Kaepernick's handlers said oh no! So what they did was Three hours before the private workout was supposed to begin, they said no we're not doing that. We're gonna hold our own workout and that's where this clip was taken from that we just heard it was now if you have three if you know You're not gonna well, you know what I'm gonna let Stephen a Smith and it's important that we use Steven a Smith throughout this whole story because their juxtapose and will get to that hot why and how they're just suppose a minute but

1:22:02 Stephen a speaks on Colin Kaepernick doesn't want to play. He wants to be a martyr So let me get this straight Colin Kaepernick has been working out all of this time him people in his camp His close ones loved ones everybody talking about he wants to play football. He wants to play football. He's ready to play Just give him the chance so what does the NFL do? recognizing that teams need a shield because they need something to hide behind because they know that guess what? If we bring this brother in for workout and we don't like him or we don't want him, who knows what we're going to get accused of. We need cover. So the NFL provides that

1:22:50 I have no doubt Jay-Z's involved. I have no doubt Roger Goodell is involved, there are a host of people involved but forget all that! I like this guy. Forget all that. Nice. He's the sportscaster? Oh he is THE sportscaster over at ESPN. Okay gotcha So this happened Saturday afternoon after Colin Kaepernick makes his rant Stephen A Smith you're saying is beside himself Because I think he kind of smells what's going on. He's totally onto it, he sees it or yeah course but we're gonna let Stephen A Smith continue about him being a martyr This man wanted the chance 25 teams show up in Georgia at the Atlanta Falcons practice facility state-of-the-art facility NFL personnel equipment everything video everything

1:23:49 And what does Colin Kaepernick do? Not Tuesday, when he found out about it. Not Wednesday! Not Thursday! Not Friday! Saturday three hours before the workout because of some issue with a liability waiver. Colin Kaepernick wants to change the venue. Colin Kaepernick wants his own receivers. Colin Kaepernick wants to video things himself. Colin Kaepernick wants the media... This is Colin Kaepernick and the media can't find him He ain't done no interviews, he ain't talked to nobody. Media can't find him but he wants the media available now! He don't want to play...He wants to be a martyr. An agent of change. So?

1:24:40 A lot of, he's been critical as we heard in previous clips over Colin Kaepernick not voting. But other times he's been supportive for Colin Kaepernick on his show but Colin Kaepernick not only didn't piss off Stephen A Smith, he also pissed off Undisputed host Shannon Sharpe. I'm disappointed with how Kaep handled the situation I think everybody knows that's watched this show for the last three years. Skip, i've been one of cap's biggest supporters you and I talked about this I believe every single day for about three or four months. When everybody else touched on it at the beginning and left the subject alone, you and I talked about it. I talked to Cap, I knew how much he wanted to get back into league And I even coined a term, I said, coined a term? I said, Cap has been white balled That has not changed But the way he handled this situation Skip Now He knew that he received this on very short notice

1:25:34 He could have said, you know my representative just giving me word that the NFL is set up a workout for me. I will get back to you as soon as i know more details he jumped in head first so you knew this was going to be on Saturday. He turns around because what he did Skip he's at his camp and his supporter says the NFL wants to control the narrative well the NFL says we damn sure not gonna let you control the narrative And he walked into a trap that they set. What Cap is trying to do, is Cap is trying to appease an audience that has no role in him getting the job You can showcase your talent for the media all you want to. You can try and appease your fan base all you want too but they will play no role in you getting a job. Cap...you show up to a job interview with a Kunta Kinte shirt? Ha ha ha! Kunta Kinte! Yes! No, no, no

1:26:32 He should have a hoodie that just says Toby. Oh, well he can't do that! Of course not! I just wanted to give you that. As you know always like to give context to the things that are happening By Kunta, I mean by Kunta Kaepernick. But by Colin Kaepernick showing up with that Kunta Kinte shirt on... No no, you get the show title, Kunta Kaepernick there ya go! That'll get some SEO, that'll get some love. But while he's showing up with the Kunta Kinte shirt on, by proxy he is calling the NFL owners what? Slave owners

1:27:18 And just for there may be some younger listeners who didn't grow up with Alex Haley's epic roots the saga of an American family It's on Netflix. I'm sure it's a must-watch binge it over the weekend the Thanksgiving weekend So as you mentioned Alex, Haley had a slave piece of slave Trauma based entertainment called Roots and Thank you for saying that because when I say you need to watch it, we have discussed this before. Maybe if we discuss it just on the phone? I think...I don't think was in a show It is totally trauma-based entertainment absolutely In fact very traumatic to watch To the point my father said when he saw it they went to school next day and got into brawls over it Wow

1:28:13 So by him using this icon of Kunta Kente, he knew what one. He knew how the billionaire petty as we've laid out owners would take it and he knew what it was signify to his super woke crowd that backs him but for people that don't know who Kunta Kente is I want to explain what the significance of that is. I want to hear you say your name, your name is Toby What's your name? Gunter Lord God help that boy They're gonna whip him dead What's your name? Say it! Toby

1:29:16 Who are you? Say your name. What's your name? Toby... Say it again. Say it louder so they all can hear you! What's your name?! Tobey, my name is Tobey That's a good nigga. Yeah, that was the yeah So in that scene we have Colin Kaepernick playing the role of Kunti kente they won't be broken He wants he want to say his name is Toby and we got the NFL and the owners saying it's Toby And who's the third character in there? Stephen a smill Oh Lord, they're gonna break this boy damn They just took the old playbook

1:30:25 Recycled it. That's perfect Yes, and now people say well Moe you're going a little far out with that I don't think so at all like I totally see this me it's Okay Yeah, I stand up for you mo I will defend you on this one to back up my claim Stephen A Smith signs biggest contract ESPN history I want to talk about Steven a Smith according to the NY Post he is too basically sign a new deal to become ESPN's highest paid talent on air personality in Their history. Okay now this is according to the NY Post so Steve Nate Smith is about to make a lot more money, okay And that's for the people who you know like them and the people who don't I know the people Who don't are really gonna like this?

1:31:18 Cause quite frankly, Stephen A Smith is going to be richer. Smith is in line to become the highest paid on air person at ESPN by potentially boosting his salary to 10 million per year according to the people with knowledge of upcoming negotiations. This is the bullet play. Yes sir. Steven a and you know what? This clip it's from March They don't find they don't finalize the deal until last week. Oh, how convenient? How convenient which ESPN has Which is Disney has a lot of has a big contract with NFL and their number one guy Stephen A Smith signs that you the biggest contracting in an ESPN history right before he goes on to attack

1:32:15 Public enemy number one as far as NFL concern Colin Kaepernick, so he okay. So his contract was done Announced and then the Kaepernick thing happens yes no perfect timeline of course ESPN's in on it oh man Yes, what you have is you have the boulaye? Versus the woke crowd. I'm sorry wish that won't crowd is funded by Soros people like that and the boule or more establishment Well, you also made the right connection ABC they have the contract for the games? I don't even know Yeah, well ESPN they show on Monday Night Football right so they own everything Okay So then they own Stephen a Smith do their name down everybody except for this show mm-hmm But we're for sale for the right amount for sure

1:33:04 My name is Kunta. I won't be broken. Who are you? No, better be the Stephen A Smith in that story you just made up there. I don't want to be the slave owner. Alright. What i'm saying is that's the reason why we do this because nobody will point these things out because everybody has a vested interest on either side. That's right, I mean you know that is why you do the no agenda show because if you have sponsors like shut up Adam yes you know yeah we were to do that but this has came at a cost of Mr Stephen A Smith oh Terrell Owens confront Stephen A Smith

1:33:49 So what he wanted was transparency for people to see the full workout, to see the full Colin Kaepernick. Again you mentioned obviously Max is going to get in here and like I said i'm in the streets max almost seems blacker than you Steven eh? With with with with what he's coming with his commentary. Tommy, Tommy, with all due respect my brother... I'm just saying dawg! Wait a minute wait a minute. I'm just saying! Ima check you right now You don't cross the line. I'm just sayin' Tommy, Tommy, Tommy wait a minute you don't cross the line First of all like I said Colin Kaepernick, Eric Reid any of y'all that want to debate me in front of black people and talk about what's best for black people Name the time and place I'll show up. I don't want to hear what's the definition of blackness? Is there a definitive definition of blackness? And now Terrell is a player right because yeah, Terrell Owens is a former player and he says that

1:34:43 Stephen a Smith's co-host Max Kellerman is blacker than Steven a Smith. This would seem like an insult the highest order I'm thinking that's not a cool thing to say and this was on the air Yes, this was all Steven a Smith show and let me just give some background Steven a Smith sometimes takes be conservative side of the argument because this is a debate show, him and Max's debate. And to keep Max from seeming like the racist white guy by the structure of the show Stephen A Smith most of time takes the conservative side and lets Max argue the liberal side so he doesn't look like the racist white guy.

1:35:32 Right, but if this crap has blown up in Stephen a Smith's face But let me just give a little point here Steven. A Smith always likes to say I'm a black man Before he preface is any statement so to let his Co-hosts are white Jewish guy be called a Blacker than him. Yeah, oh This is bad And then Terrell goes on to invite Max to the cookout here and I know max you didn't have a chance to jump in and i'm sure You want to respond? It's okay kind of explosive when t o you said tongue-in-cheek You said that steven that I seem blacker than stephen aye and stephen obviously had to respond to that

1:36:17 that. And I want to respond to that before I say what I originally wanted to say, which is first of all, I can't eat anymore all the cookouts I've been invited to like since this whole thing came up. I see Stephen A as having inherited not only a respect for authority but working knowledge of reality and what it takes to get ahead no excuses you could always look for excuses You can look for things to lean on. You could look for where it's not perfect or you can do what you have to do which is what steven a's dot and i would say that his is that your point of view steven a t o steven a's point of view less black necessarily than someone else's who's more strident it is

1:36:58 more conservative in certain respects. And my point of view is oftentimes more progressive, my own background is Jewish secular not religious but Jewish secular so one of the things you get around Passover is act like YOU are a slave in Egypt that's how I grew up! Like with that tradition always look at the oppressed and look for righteousness and justice and so on strident in that way however My me myself. I did not have to go through the struggle like that now explain the cookout So what is this just some old cookout? What cook out is this? I want to be at the cookout so the cookout

1:37:42 It's this stupid thing that the woke people do. When white people do something that is pleasing to them, they say oh he's invited to the cookout! I'm learning so much today it's hurting my brain So it's not my definition, I'll let Buzzfeed explain to you what the cookout is. The cook out to me is like where black people come to be blackity-black-like All the generations get together and that's one place you can teach like older generation as much as they teach you A cook out is a safe place to be around friends or family The cook out is only place where you don't have to code switch It's immediate family, siblings, aunts, uncles cousins

1:38:24 Neighbors, family friends. Fake aunties fake uncles It was my Haitian education school That's where I learned about my culture My music How to cook Like the importance of family members Yeah you can't fight at a cookout People fight at the cookout You can but your not supposed too Okay it sounds pretty holy this cookout business To them...I mean Well if your And this is Im gonna piss some people off with this one So just beware When you're a black person and you deal in white, mostly white places spaces. A cookout to you is like this magical place of Blackness. You know? To me it's if you throw some food on the grill and you just kick back! But if you live in white spaces whatever how they determine

1:39:19 you know, to be around a majority of black people is something magical to them. And then to bring on white person into that is the highest of the highest order of compliments that they bestow upon a super white person. He invited to the cookout! He invited to the barbecue! You know what? F*** the cookout That's right. F*** the cookout So And it had to be like I said, it had to be the highest insult too To Stephen a Smith because not only does max go on he gets invited to the cookout Then he goes on to white splain The struggle why? We talked about this point yesterday and what you're alluding to there is actually white privilege black people don't enjoy it and up

1:40:17 I'm not giving up any privilege, not a single bit of privilege. But I will insist that all human beings are so privileged and that includes Kaepernick and if he wants to wear a Kunta Kinte shirt good for him." So at what point are you following this story? Now you're really angry because of what's happening to your relaxation sport, your football. This must be maddening! I'm so pissed... Bro This guy said he's not giving up any of his privilege and that's who you invite to the cookout? Are you serious?! I mean, because to say i have privilege is one thing. That's bad enough! You can't have privilege and then say everybody else has it too because that makes it not a privilege Exactly So I read through this bullshit It was like yeah, I got that super white privilege And I ain't letting go on none of it

1:41:14 Are you people, are you not hearing him? And what got me pissed off is under the comments of Terrell Owens' video where he's called Max Blacker than Stephen A. invited Max to the proverbial cookout, everybody's like yeah! Yeah Max he super woke. Yeah invite him to the cook out. He can come to my cook out any day you know what I'm saying? I don't know he likes seasoned meat. I'm like are you so... Can i get a woosah please? Yes you can get a woosah anytime you need it. Woosah. Wooooohsah. Wooooooooshaaah. Wooooshaaah. Woooshaaah. Oh this is great thank you this is great

1:42:05 As me, Steve and A had enough of the cookout. And Max irks him over it. He wants to play it's not fair. He did this for us All he wants to do now is put this behind him wants to play will you help us? So it's rock nation It's Jay-z and the crew is the NFL of Roger Goodell who went behind the backs up executive VPs because they didn't even know about The workout what happened was he has the workout and

1:42:44 And then after the workout, he antagonizes the very commissioner who helped put this together. Told him to stop running showed up with a Kuta Kent shirt on you know essentially it said well see once again that's see that's where that's why I say you go to that black barbecue or you want to but let me tell you something right now You cannot have 31 white owners You show up with a Kuta Kenti shirt, basically alluding to them as slave owners. I know you gotta show your hat in your hand and beg for the opportunity that's been unrightfully denied. But see that's what i'm saying because after this you're gonna leave, you're gonna go home And see I got to go into black community and deal with stuff just because you interrupted me to make that point Wow I'm speechless

1:43:30 One of these days, Stephen A. Smith is going to put Max hands on max. Yeah. Sounds like shut up. He's going a bit far now, Max because he does this all the time. He's super duper woke, super duper woke and they said what you're supposed to do go with your hat in your hand? I mean when he's projecting these things onto the Steven Smith and I don't know if he realizes or not He has to be aware cuz max is a super intelligent person So it's like by you saying that that's what Stephen A Smith means when he says that it only makes it worse Okay, now and this was with this past week these These clips. Yeah This is Thursday and Friday on Thursday was when this is Thursday as when I decided to do the show because when I heard about

1:44:27 The Max is black and it's Stephen A. Smith, I hit my best friend up in my he's my confidant you know we talk about like how things are land and i was like dude did you see this crap? And I was like yep! I gotta do a show on this I gotta cover this because this is some bull job right here. Well, so you've set us up perfectly for what's coming next and I can only imagine with all these pieces on the feet...I don't know what's happening in football land and what a great moment will be other than Super Bowl is the only moment I know about but it seems like we need a Nike campaign, a shoe

1:45:08 And some kind of slogan or something. Now he needs to start cashing in, and we know it's not going to be on playing ball." No the NFLs part of this story is a wrap because they proved to him proved to people that want to see it Colin Kaepernick doesn't want to play in the NFL Because we gave him an opportunity come showcase his talent and He pulled this I mean His team did what was best for their interests and that interest is not playing football, it's to be a social justice icon. So I understand it from that standpoint. I don't support it but I understand what their motives were an NFL got what they wanted because they got to say well let's done And now which is where does Colin Kaepernick go from here? Well exactly and it's going to be a complicated affair

1:46:03 Because as far as so he got paid. He got he got millions and one two three twenty who cares? One million a lot of money mo I told you he signed the deal for what 126 million yeah, I mean it's not like he's hurt from my I mean that exactly but said but Nike is in an interesting spot So we're gonna see is the NFL The Kunta Kinte have Nike because Nike pays a big-ass bill for all of this stuff You know, Nike controls a lot in sports. So if they say hey Kaepernick's our guy and we're going to use him for the We Ready campaign or whatever antagonize the NFL up to the Super Bowl maybe I don't know anything about football but it seems like that would be the move and i think is gonna be interesting they're probably all-in on it just keep the controversy going money flows The controversy definitely helps Nike and the NFL really can't fight Nike because

1:47:02 They're in bed with them. Yeah, but they already showed the NBA to shut up. So I mean Nike is everybody's daddy. Yes, Mac Daddy Well and I got this question for you might be the answer for me now when we talk about Nike versus the NFL that's one thing but when we talk about Nike vs Disney yeah well Oh gosh, that's a good one because Disney of course is you know the biggest parent company The evil Death Star man. They're so big they're so incredibly big So powerful and it's amazing that Shannon Sharp didn't catch any blowback from his identical stance as Stephen A Smith right Steven a Smith was labeled a bad guy who works for ESPN who is the parent company of

1:47:55 of uh... daughter company of Disney. Yeah, daughter company at Disney yes so that's where we're at! Alright what do you think is going to happen? What are we look out for I think something's going to flare back up again around the Super Bowl time because Mr. Jay-Z, he's been hired of event planning for the NFL. He's like a wedding planner for football. Yeah that what he is, he's a glorified event planner! Let's just be honest here so um...I'm sure the woke crowd will have Something to say about how he handles that the performances of the NFL. All right, I'll make a prediction. I'll make it prediction Yes, I'll make one you will not believe the Nike commercial You'll see during the Super Bowl and that would be my prediction wait one minute wait one minute almost slip something out of here okay, so there was an article with the

1:48:58 Colin Kaepernick said he's gonna schedule another workout this spring and he's going to take it to wherever the South Florida where the NFL owners hold their hold their yearly conference there. But that's after the Super Bowl, right? That's after the Super Bowl so I mean they're already planning for next season you know of course You gotta keep the Colin Kaepernick show going He got picked up he has another season So he might as well and his series is doing well if he can do three more years he can go into syndication and live forever

1:49:35 Wow Mo, thank you so much for unfolding this. And again I learned a lot really because not just because i'm a white guy is because I don't know football and that really... and to copious show notes or they'll be in the show notes which are all linked at mofax.com And this is good. Thank you so much You know there's a couple people I want to keep my eye on is he still with the same girlfriend? Yes, okay Keep my eye on her and she still tweets or did she stop tweeting that she's where she from She's still working. She still works and she has ordinary

1:50:21 career on television and radio and other things. So it's just this weird thing that he takes all the action or takes all the brunt of the blows, and then she gets to live her life. I mean, like I said, to me, he is a useful idiot in a puppet And so... And a fantastic outro song for this show, which relates to Kunta Kaepernick. I'm just gonna say it on the show won't say it anywhere else is just between you and me Moe. It's just between you and me. Hey! I'm the Stephen A there. So thank you Moe this is great. I cannot wait to do it all over again on Monday. After cookout. Yeah wish I was not invited too. I'll point that out

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