Topic: Nellie Fuller

Dr. Westbrook credits Clarence Avant, known as "The Black Godfather," with connecting Jimmy Carter to black power brokers in Los Angeles. The discussion explores the concept of the "Black Messiah" that J. Edgar Hoover feared. Moe applies Nellie Fuller's theory of "tacky, trashy, and terroristic" roles to how the system allows black figures to operate.

Nellie Fuller describes the historical pushback against bringing the piano—referred to as the "devil's box"—into the church because of its association with "houses of ill repute." The hosts discuss the gradual acceptance of pianos, organs, drums, and eventually Casio keyboards in Southern Baptist worship services.

The hosts revisit a clip from Nellie Fuller defining "White Supremacy" as a global system of management rather than simple pigment-based racism. They discuss how the system picks winners and losers, using the changing classification of Asian Americans as an example of how arbitrary these labels are in the pursuit of a "New World Order."

Using a definition from Nellie Fuller, the hosts describe white supremacy as a worldwide system of government. They draw a controversial analogy between the fear of the coronavirus and the black experience with racism, suggesting that the "stink eye" given to those without masks in Italy mirrors the feeling of being targeted. They compare lockdown travel papers to "stop and frisk" policies, calling the pandemic a potential learning moment for national empathy.