55:18 It's a couple different things and they're conflating them together. There's code switching, there's AAVE and then there's If you're talking to somebody and they're from another culture, you gonna pick up on things that they do. And I'm guilty of this myself. I work with a lot of Eastern Indians and they do this head shake left or right. Really? Cool! Like a Bollywood thing? It kinda means like so-so or eh... So you do it, huh? Because I've seen them do it and its not like Im conscious of that. You know what im going to pander to them by doing it back to them. Its...I think in human nature we pick up on these things. But he is like..Im trying to get something here because its one thing when
56:09 You know, when you pick up on stuff and you do stuff we're all say hey brother. Would I say that to other friends of mine too? It depends it's not the same for every person I speak to but in general if Tina hears me say something that is clearly like a mofaxism she'll be like excuse me But if you're singing it in a song then its acceptable If you're singing along with the lyrics. If you shot me off in Britain long enough, I'm gonna come back with a bloody or two right? It's just gonna happen but it's my thing is if this
56:48 Okay, let me pander to this person right what do they say? How did they say it? Yeah It's like write the script and build it all in there. Right or if I'm uncomfortable so And I must say this This is a public service announcement All my white friends out there like that give me a pound dog Don't do that Don't do that. No, because I understand you're trying to be endearing but it's not even trying to be endearing It's like a thing...I think it's a human thing You want to mirror someone and by the way people love mirroring successful people
57:33 So I understand exactly what you're saying. It takes conscious effort sometimes for me as a white guy to not automatically, yo, yo blood! Because I've been trained that way it's what if...I grew up with Huggy Bear You know, and but it also shows you like your you know what error you came up in because I'm guilty of it too because when I get ready to use slang. I go back to the programming of my teenage and young 20 years for something some things you pick up on but no But I'm just saying, you know, you just said he made very clear like hey man don't do that
58:12 But you know what? I do it to my daughter, and I'll be like no cap. And she just gives me that look like... People don't know about caps, like no putting... Like don't- Don't sugarcoat it No, no, no! Don't exaggerate You understand the cap is when you exaggerate or kind of lie about something Okay, I learned something It's not even generational as well as racial Women, like you hear dudes say it to women and women say it to men. I often have this weird thought... And I don't want to make this a 30-hour show but I got too. No! I often have this weird thought that one day I'll meet you—I've never even seen you—one day I'll meet you and I have this really awkward feeling like here's how I envision it. I come to your house
59:08 Hey, Moe. And I know that your wife and your kids are going to be looking at me...I'm gonna be so fucking conscious of myself as this white dude who works with daddy." It's the weirdest thing like how would i say hi to Moe? Does that make any sense it's just a thing that pops into my head sometimes. So my question is- Is that your natural conditioning or is that like you're just the cultural temperature that we have now that you don't want to be offensive but you don't wanna be neglectful either. And I think that's the weird place it puts people in. Well, Tiz with you if its just me and you...I know..and I'm not worried at all It's like oh how will I be perceived? The reason why this conversation is so fascinating
59:56 this is what happens with women. The same thing, it's like how do I communicate with them? Right, and being really honest here... And it's weird for it to come out of my mouth because you're my friend and your culture background nothing matters to me but it's there! Yeah well we talk about all the time so it's not like off-putting or anything but that what I'm saying is the same way Just since we're being- you wanna get that door? I was thinking about that. Yeah, hold on a second let me close it now
1:00:38 All right, just us now. The same way you said about coming to my house and what will you say it's the same thing with me I'm sure with a lot of black people that interact with white people on a constant basis it's like what was the fine pitch because or what's the right tone? Right The reason why I say that is, and this is the double consciousness of the black person. It's like how will I be perceived? And how do I stay true to myself? When I come here, I don't look at it as if I'm talking to you as a white person. I come here and I'm talking with somebody with decades of broadcasting experience so I need to step my game up
1:01:26 to be able to hang with you on your level of broadcasting. But there's a subconscious thought of, well I don't want to sound too white either so it's the same thing But it's so weird because growing up, not even growing up in the 90s in New Jersey. I go down to South Jersey a lot and this is you know kind of rock scene would be in the studios and maybe was just a New Jersey thing but everybody was spoken to based upon their how they look. They weren't treated any differently, everyone was treated exactly the same but we have Ray the cripple hey ray cripple you know like go get us some lunch and you have hey Sunil yo dot head he was Indian you know and then it would be like hey you know cracker and for some reason when it wasn't restricted you could just say these things to each other
1:02:25 It normalized everything. Let me just, and I'm gonna start every sentence by pointing out that I see you're different than me and then nothing is different after that. And we've lost that. We can't do that anymore. And I'll be honest with you when we talk about AAVE black people have the white person voice right? It's like when you go up in Octave and you're like, oh yeah! Yeah that's great. That'd be great Adam. We should do a whole show reversing it So it's not... Like I said, it's human but the thing is when you do it When you go into it calculated And just to bring it back to what we're talking about now With Maxine Waters this was very calculated because I'm going to point out What era Maxine comes from