53: 2020 Vision

00:00 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for November 2nd, 2020. This is episode number 53. Sliding into your podcast app just before the election in Austin and Northern Virginia. It's Adam and Mo. Mo, Mo, Mo, how you doing? I'm doing well, Adam. How about yourself? Yeah, I'm doing great, man. It's cold here, actually, in Texas. Freezing.

00:38 I think they... Oh, it's cold as balls here too. I think they do that, you know, they throw on the weather machine like, let's make it... this is real voter suppression, you know, let's make it cold, let's make it rainy, make no one want to go out and vote. Yeah, the weather's been nasty here but we're making it through. Alright, did you have trick-or-treaters this year at your house? No, um, well actually the houses out in my area kind of far, not too far, but not suburban style, but not a lot of trick or treating from a lot of friends I talked to that their neighborhoods were dead and my wife wasn't letting the kids go out. So they kind of had a house party, Halloween house party. Halloween house party. Okay. That's nice. Yeah.

01:24 Yeah, man, how things change. Well, a lot of things could change one way or the other in anywhere from 48 hours to 48 days, I guess. We have no idea how it's going to go down. I remember 2000. I mean, 2000, it took, what, three weeks, I think? Three, maybe two, three, four weeks before they finally figured out the hang and chads in Florida. I mean, forget about that stuff. But that was weird, too. Yeah. If I was a betting man, I would think it would go something like $2,000 more than last year. But they're gonna drag it out either way. Yeah, unless it's like some kind of crazy landslide one way or the other. But then that would also be questioned, I'm sure. Possibly. Yeah, who knows? Who knows? Alright, alright man. Cool. I will say one thing before you spin that wheel. Alright.

02:19 Something's definitely gonna change after tomorrow. There's definite change. Okay, you want to elaborate or? We don't know what, we don't know what, but there's definitely, things will not be the same after tomorrow. Well if anything, I hope that people look at how their news media is providing them with information. I think that's the one thing I'd like, that's the only thing I've ever cared about for the past 13 years. It's one of the only reasons that this show exists is because this type of message doesn't get out otherwise. So yeah, exactly. And we're gonna do it again for you right now. Here we go, let's roll up that wheel of topics, let's see what we're gonna talk about today. I have some thoughts on the matter, but where that wheel stops nobody knows, except of course Moe, who has put the sermon together for today. And the topic for Moe Facts with Adam Curry 53 is... What do you have to lose? Ah yes, okay.

03:15 I gotcha. Hit me Moe. This is the question that's going to be answered after today. Okay. If it goes Trump side, we'll see what do we have to lose. But it was this question that kind of set a lot of things that were brewing off into motion and we're going to go back This is one of the shows and tell people ever since episode one we've been saying this and if the media were to listen to podcasters for lack of a better word. Good luck. They would have known what was gonna go on over a year ago but they didn't and we've been saying it and this is not a victory lap but I would like to re

04:05 Go over some things in more detail because after today they won't be as pertinent. So that's what I want to do with this show. So this is also kind of a marking down some points in history so that we have something to go back to and remind ourselves. Yes, and then how we got to this point up I mean up in the since the last year well actually the last I want to say maybe five years mm-hmm cuz thing is brewing for a while. Yeah exactly Yes, so I want to go what was under the surface. Why are we at? How do we get there and back to where we at now all right?

04:47 If that makes sense. No, I think it makes perfect sense. And what you're obviously talking about is we have a strong surge of black men who are looking to vote more conservative. Also brown men, if I can just keep it in the color scheme. It seems like we've got Latinos also, Latino men also leaning this way now. It seems that way. It seems that way. And I'm getting this from CNN. I mean, CNN is saying that this is happening in Florida, so that's where I'm getting this from. Yeah.

05:28 They haven't been listening. We've been saying it. They've been listening to the pollsters and the political talking heads and everybody else, and they never took the time to say, what do these people want? These people that we need their vote, what are they asking for? So I guess we can go ahead and dive right into some black male voters say one. Welcome back to CBS This Morning. As the 2020 presidential campaign enters its final phase, racial tensions and how to end them are a major issue. During last night's debate, both candidates pitched themselves as the best option

06:07 for minority voters. Tim Scott, a great senator from South Carolina, he came in with this incredible idea for Opportunity Zones. It's one of the most successful programs. People don't talk about it. Tremendous investment is being made. Constantly been moving the needle further and further to inclusion, not exclusion. This is the first president to come along and says that's the end of that. We're not going to do that anymore. We have to provide for... Now here's a relevant fact. According to Pew Research Center, only 54% of eligible black men voted in 2016. And when it comes to identifying as Democrats, black men are less likely to do so than black women. 77% to 87%.

06:50 Run me through the numbers again Moe because now I'm kind of confused what percentage of vote etc that we have and I heard 87 77 is this this just to help me understand that is that is of voters so you have turnout right so all of all people of one group or just in general all people, what percentage of that turns out? And then they take that turnout of that subset and then divide it up who voted Republican, Democrat, Independent. So the turnout number is the number that we need to watch. I'm watching because I don't think it's gonna be very much movement, say, from Democrats or Republican.

07:38 No, this can only come from people who have been on the sidelines previously. Everyone else is probably stuck in their rut. Right. Or you could say people voted last time that Donald Trump's not the boogeyman or the bad things didn't happen that they expect to happen. And so they're like, you know what? I'm out of it. And that would drive the voter turnout number down. And we're going to go over that from our very first show. But I wanted to show the full circle that we've been talking about this and this is from the most recent report from CBS this morning. But if you notice how they moved through the clip, it says racial tensions and then minority voters. But clearly the title of the clip is some black male voters. Yeah, but let's just call a minority. Well, because they don't want to let us know the power that we wield

08:38 But they want to be able to just have the conversation. And they don't want to lead on that you just what you highlighted before the clip. That is just not this minority group, quote unquote minority group. That's thinking having different thoughts. So they're like, keep the brown men from the black men because they might start talking. Wait a minute. I thought they lived in the same community. That's the same zip code. How are you going to enforce that? They may just wind up talking to each other. Yeah. And if you notice the way they parsed it, it's black man. You haven't heard anything about the brown man. And to be honest with you, this is just my personal opinion. I think the experiment went wrong with the Hispanic vote. Okay.

09:25 thought they could create the Hispanic vote in the same model that they did the black vote. Whereas we can have them voting Democrat for, you know, a hundred years if we give them something. Well, what I see is I see the exact same thing I see amongst black men. I see Hispanic men, same thing that, you know, kind of a testosterone thing going on. That's what I'm seeing. And at a greater number in the brown community compared to the black community, because I think it's something like 60, 65, 35, 64. Yeah, it's quite a community. So they didn't have that everlasting.

10:08 guilt trip that they could run on the brown vote. The black vote, now that's why they're having to pivot back around to the black vote. Like, yeah, we know we forgot about you and we ignored you. We were over here in the zip code next door in the brown community. We're back here in the black community. It's so lame, Moe. It's so terribly lame. And it's amazing how people of color has been, I think it's like out of vogue? I guess that would be the word. But yeah, it's not cool anymore. You don't even hear people of color mentioned or that term mentioned or colored people as I like to say it. Because it's been, it's actually a negative term now or viewed as a negative term. So I wanted to point that out.

10:57 what's going on here, but they still have to be careful with the verbiage that they use. And you hear racial minority things of that nature. Black men have increasingly become a coveted target of both campaigns in the run up to election day. Show up, show out, and vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Joe Biden's policies destroyed millions of black lives. President Trump and former Vice President Biden defended their records on race during Thursday night's debate. Nobody has done more for the black community than Donald Trump. Criminal justice reform, prison reform, opportunity zones. We have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better access to schooling, better access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses. Both campaigns have unveiled specific

11:52 plans appealing to the estimated 30 million eligible African-American voters. 13% of black male voters supported President Trump in 2016, more than three times the rate of black women. What you have here is all you heard, including yourself, for maybe 2019 is Black women, Black women, Black women coming out of 2018's midterms. It was like Black women are going to save the day. But if you have all the votes, it's not much more you can get of it. I mean, 90-95% voted Democrat.

12:30 Somewhere along the way, somebody made a miscalculation or a gross oversight to say, how do we get this number of men who don't vote? We talked about it. I think like half black men don't vote. That's a pretty huge number. And then you have 13% of the vote turnout for Trump, which was an uptick from the previous Republican, candidates from 2016 and 2012 and 2008. Withholding the vote works. The quote-unquote tangibles that are being discussed, or if you want to say I'm putting tangibles in several quotes, but that was put on the table by the vote being withheld. It was like how do we get this large number of people that may not participate

13:31 Into the game when you value your commitment, I make a vow to one party. I'm going to vote for you regardless. They don't have to offer you anything. I know this sounds like a lot of rehash. But I'm saying this to say, this is what we've been doing here. The discussions that we've been having conversations we've been having. every week began on this notion because this next clip is the very first clip from the very first show that we talked about and this will go over the numbers that you discussed when you could play it after you finish speaking on the subject. Yeah, what I was going to say is the only thing that's interesting is that we see record turnout. Now, record turnout in Texas is interesting but for pre-election day, early voting

14:21 Now that can mean a couple of things. It can mean that a lot of people decided to vote one way or the other despite thinking they were not going to vote. So, you know, withhold the vote seems to be less likely. Or, of course, there's a shitload of cheating going on and people are voting three or four times. I mean, this is one of the most fascinating election cycles to be a part of because we really just don't know and all we have is confusing messages from the polls. So, indeed, going back well over a year ago, this was in the very first show, and this was what set me, at least, on the journey with Mo Fax. In early voting, you can actually tell who is voting, not which way they voted, but who's doing it. In states like North Carolina, the black vote is down 16% from 2012. Listen to President Obama urging black voters, get out there and vote, please.

15:19 I hate to put a little pressure on you, but the fate of the republic rests on your shoulders. The fate of the world is teetering and you, North Carolina, are going to have to make sure that we push it in the right direction. If Hillary wins North Carolina, she wins. When I said the fate of the Republic rests on you, I wasn't joking. Pretty strident stuff there. Joining us now, Stacey Washington. I'm Darvish Stacey on the right. I think, can I say this? I'm looking at a headline in the Financial Times out of Britain today. It says Obama rallying cry to black voters as polls show Trump making gains.

16:02 Now, it seems to me that maybe black voters hold the key to the entire election. Is that right? Yeah, baby! Yeah, exactly. Well, let's just measure up for a second. Joe Biden, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. President Trump, what do you got to lose? I mean, that's almost an easy one. And there's something that I missed from this clip and that's why I like going back to these throwback clips because you kind of focused on one thing in a clip, but you don't hear other very valuable information that's pertinent to now. If you listen to what he says, he said you can't tell who they voted for, but you can tell who came out. Yes.

16:55 So that goes for now, like you were talking about all the record-setting early voting. Right, have we heard, have we heard, I haven't really heard any of who is coming out to vote, not, I mean yeah they say... Go ahead. Can you play like the first 20 seconds, because I want to hear exactly what he said, I hate to go back, but it's very important what he said to now. In early voting, you can actually tell who is voting, not which way they voted, but who's doing it. Right. Okay. So if that number is down, they know it now. Right. How come we don't know it though? How come they're not telling us? Because that number... If that number is down, it's not going to be... That number must be messed up. Yeah, that number must be... So you mean the total number of African Americans to come out, to come out at all? Yes. Yes. Yes. The turnout number, they know that now. Crap, man. They can't tell you... This is information I need to have.

17:55 Well, the fact that you're not hearing about it tells me and the way they're ratcheting up the insults, the browbeating, the shaming. I kind of know how this number is going because if it was going in your favor, then it's like, and there's no need to shame people because it's like, okay, are we getting the numbers that we need to hit? We're doing good. Okay, I have Louisiana just because I'm searching around for it. As of November 1st, a little over 3 million registered voters, 63% white,

18:41 that came out and 31% black and that's Louisiana who have been in early voting. So 31%, 61% that's still only talking about the whole pie. It's kind of hard to tell the voter turnout number but what I'm saying is that The fact that they're not talking about it and the tactics that they're using. That clearly means that they're not happy with what they're seeing, obviously. What they're talking about, and I have a clip, we'll get to that in a minute, but just the sheer reaction, it seems like desperation, and you gotta look at it through this lens. Democrats are more likely to vote early. Trump is telling his people, wait to go out to the polls on voting day.

19:31 So if your number is looking even a little funny, it's like wait till this quote-unquote red wave comes. It's gonna be worse tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. It's gonna gonna get worse. So I wanted to go through that and now we can move into what we talked about from the Brothers Be Voting episode 49. Yeah. About just about the numbers on the black male voter in general. All right, we are just months away from election day and it is going to be a big one whether you vote early by mail or in person every single vote counts but currently in the US listen to this about half Half of black men who are registered to vote have not done so in the last five years

20:17 consecutive elections. And that's what the Black Male Voter Project is working to change. Tonight, we're joined live by Mondale Robinson with the Black Male Voter Project. Mondale, thank you for being with us. Tell me about the mission of this project and why it's taking on added significance this election year. Yeah, so thank you for having me. I want to say that actually I think it's been important a long time, unfortunately, because people have not prioritized the needs and ideas and issues that are important to black men. It just seems like this year is extremely important. I would argue that black men participating in the election is better for everybody, especially those who make up the lower wrongs of society. Because when we vote, we vote for issues that better everybody, not just a select group of folk.

21:03 The mission of Black Male Voter Project is one that is extremely simple. It is our job to create more super voters that are black men, meaning brothers who vote every election cycle. And we're working hard to do that throughout traditional campaigning and introduce a new way of campaigning called BMEP-additory approach. We basically use Maslow hierarchy of needs and behavior psychology to change the psyche of black men about voting. So this is them wanting to change our psychology and our psyche and our economic status. You're not thinking right, man. You're doing it all wrong. And this goes to show you they're hiring the wrong people. They're not getting the right people in the room to tell them the truth. They're getting people in the room just telling them what they want to hear.

21:52 So you have this... That's what consultants do. That's exactly what political consultants, business managers, that's what the professional class does. Sometimes they get lucky, they win. But, you know, I don't even know who's running the show over at the Democratic Party. Do you have any idea who the leadership is anymore? No, because when Podesta went down, I would say it's whoever's running the what's the like the squad they have a big influence yeah I mean it's very it's very fractured and what we saw here the black vote consisting of the black and female and male vote was the base for the Democratic Party and then they said okay we can bring these other groups in add it to that and then we can get to the number that we want to get to right

22:46 But when that fracture happened within entry of the Black vote between men and women, that destabilized everything. And it happened with Trump. And Trump knew this going, I mean, he understood this that it's a group that we never talked to and that's why I led that. What do you have to lose because that was his... That was his pitch. That was his pitch. His pitch. Like what do you have... Honestly, if you just stay at home, what do you have to lose? And I want to explain this to people again. It's not lost on me and other people like me. If you stay at home and you're normally a voter, that's a plus one for Donald Trump. Right. Because you're taking it out the board. Now if he can flip

23:38 a voter that consistently votes from Democrat to Republican, that's a plus two. So his defense is his best offense and that's why they call it voter suppression. Yes, exactly. He's saying, yeah, don't worry about it. What he got to lose? That's voter suppression right there in a nutshell. Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. That is the voter suppression. Now you do have the long lines, but I would say that's on the Democrats' part. Why don't you get more polling places open? It's possible.

24:15 So I'll put that on them and not the Republicans. Why don't they just make every Planned Parenthood into a polling place? Then it'll be in all the minority neighborhoods. It's just a thought, everybody. That is a valid point. Because there is one in every poor black community. Now we're going to get back to CBS this morning to wrap up with the final clip from their report. Stemming from Biden in Philadelphia this week, former President Barack Obama made an appeal to black men. What I consistently try to communicate during this year is particularly when I'm talking to young brothers is to acknowledge to them

25:02 I gotta stop for a second. When he says, when he gets into code there, in particular talking to young brothers, I mean, don't you go like, it would be like me saying that. Isn't that the same? Actually, you've done more work, so it wouldn't be the same. Less offensive coming from me. Okay, I just wanted to check the barometer here. Yes. Consistently try to communicate during this year. is, particularly when I'm talking to young brothers, is to acknowledge to them.

25:39 that government and voting alone isn't going to change everything. I know you guys say that you talk about voting and the importance of voting, but there are a lot of black men who don't. And that's why we're here tonight having this tough conversation to encourage each other that there's power within and nothing's going to change if we all take a back seat. Now, all of those men told me that they have or will vote and really in these final Wait a minute. Athletes?

26:33 I thought you had to get the brightest and best minds, not athletes and entertainers. You see how they do this? If he's on our side, it's good. I mean, we could, Matt Johnson, he's fine. But if, you know, if Herschel Walker goes talk to Trump, what does that meathead know? Tim Scott, no good. No good. But I'm glad you brought, picked that up. Obama's slipping back in the code. He hasn't talked to us for the last four years. Brothers. He hasn't said anything directly towards the brothers. Young brothers, by the way. Not just brothers, the young brothers.

27:12 And then he wants to weasel his way out and say, well, you know, government can't do everything alone. That is the cop out to say, this is why I didn't do anything for the last eight years. Of course. Of course. You know, he's kind of explaining it away. But it's not going to work because we've seen him do what he wanted to do for people that he wanted to do it for. Well, exactly. And when he said so, this is what I'm picking up on when he says, and especially I'm talking to the young brothers. In my mind, he's saying that for white people because the young brothers, tell me not every single young brother sees through that and goes, okay. I mean, isn't that an instant turnoff or is there still a percentage that really believes the myth Obama? The number is small.

28:02 getting smaller by the day. You know, you still have those Obama bots out there that just, well, he didn't have this house and the Senate or he had to be the president for everybody. Right, but he's not Ados. I mean, come on. It's so obvious. This guy, he's acted as a, when he says that, he's phony. It's no different than Hillary Clinton, you know, with her, I don't feel in no way, is no tired no more. Or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I mean, it's sickening. And he's not talking to the brothers to say what needs to be done. We're talking on our behalf. If I was in that position or a ADOS man had been in that position, he should use his soapbox to say, hey, right. Look, look, let me be clear. Here's the deal. This is what they're going through. Democrat Party, this is what you need to do. You want their vote?

29:02 And if he came about it in that way, it'd be different. But to explain the failures of the Democratic Party and politics as a whole, to say, well, it can't do everything for you and we still need your vote, and just try to lump everything into this, kind of like, keep doing what you've been doing. Now, he was in Philadelphia when he gave this speech that was quoted there. At the same time in Philadelphia, violence is erupting. For the last two nights, protesters have marched through Philadelphia, while looters have run unchecked, the anger and violence fueled by the death of Walter Wallace Jr.

29:45 Today, stores were boarded up and residents picked up the pieces. This is not the way to display your anger towards what's going on. At least 30 officers have been injured, dozens of people arrested. New video shows the shocking final moments of Wallace Jr.'s life. Police confronted him on Monday. He had a knife and a history of mental illness. The two officers fired 14 times. Police say Wallace Jr. refused to drop the knife. His family was watching. They say they called 911 for help for a mental health crisis. Walter Wallace Sr. called for answers and calm.

30:29 I don't condone no violence, tearing up the city, looting up the stores, and all this chaos going. The shooting and its aftermath comes during a heated presidential election, in which Donald Trump has used images of violence and looting on American streets to motivate his supporters. A Democrat-run state, a Democrat-run city, Philadelphia. We don't have that. We don't have it. The Republicans don't have it. There is no excuse whatsoever for the looting and the violence. None whatsoever. Residents promise the protests will continue. A friend of mine was in Philadelphia when

31:13 President Obama was going to be there to speak and he was sending me pictures you know this was supposed to be a speech and was all about you know the brothers I think the young brothers is who he was talking to maybe some sisters And he was showing me these pictures. It was VIP invite only, the public couldn't attend, and he's saying, look at this, it's all white people. Yeah, it was completely disingenuous, the whole Obama thing. And then you've got to ask, you know, someone came along and smashed the windows and let the third wave come out again.

31:52 Yeah, and it's to this point, it's self-activating. Yeah. You don't even need the... The umbrella people. Yeah, the agent provocateurs. You don't need those anymore. It's just that, okay, a cop shooting happens, unchecked rioting is okay. Right. And what that does is The good people in those neighborhoods, the business owners in those neighborhoods, speaking quote unquote for black people, they're not going to solve with the Democrats on this. No. Because they're asking, is this what we have to look forward to for the next 48 years if the Democrats are in office?

32:36 Or do they want law and order? And if you notice in there, they use the word chaos. The father did, which is chaos magic, and you can take, he can do with that what you want to. I'm there with you. I'm there with you. But it's tone deaf because instead of Obama using his platform to comp... I'm saying this for the benefit of the Democratic Party, not for black people. But to come out and say, you know what? We need to be calm, you know, because you're turning off of, they want to lump black people under this criminality umbrella. And it's not the case. Now we understand that stop and frisk and the way we're policed is wrong. But if the alternative to that is unchecked writing, looting, having your business burned down,

33:32 Yeah, no one's gonna want that. That's a hard decision. Yeah, nobody wants that. And if I'm a voter and that's my choice, the easiest way to do is stay neutral and not vote, which goes back to my original point of that's another point on the board for Team Trump. see how this thing works. Nobody thought this thing through with this riding and having people in the streets. It's not a winner because black people, like every other group of people, like to live in peace and harmony and not have chaos abound. Right, but so, and this is my old mantra, these are the old guard. Remember, President Obama was supposed to be

34:18 the internet president and he came in and we were all jacked and excited like okay the White House is gonna have a blog no they didn't have a blog they had a boring old website okay well he's on Twitter it's gonna be great no it's just press releases on Twitter and then I was not even talking about the health care website and and And it was the old method of communicating. Interview with the New York Times, interview with the Washington Post, go on 60 Minutes, do a round of the Sunday shows. That is how you cement the message. And what they have no experience with, and honestly, Trump is flying by the seat of his pants, but he understands audience. So when he started tweeting, he's like, oh, look at this, I can get all this response.

33:32 Yeah, no one's gonna want that. That's a hard decision. Yeah, nobody wants that. And if I'm a voter and that's my choice, the easiest way to do is stay neutral and not vote, which goes back to my original point of that's another point on the board for Team Trump. see how this thing works. Nobody thought this thing through with this riding and having people in the streets. It's not a winner because black people, like every other group of people, like to live in peace and harmony and not have chaos abound. Right, but so, and this is my old mantra, these are the old guard. Remember, President Obama was supposed to be

34:18 the internet president and he came in and we were all jacked and excited like okay the White House is gonna have a blog no they didn't have a blog they had a boring old website okay well he's on Twitter it's gonna be great no it's just press releases on Twitter and then I was not even talking about the health care website and and And it was the old method of communicating. Interview with the New York Times, interview with the Washington Post, go on 60 Minutes, do a round of the Sunday shows. That is how you cement the message. And what they have no experience with, and honestly, Trump is flying by the seat of his pants, but he understands audience. So when he started tweeting, he's like, oh, look at this, I can get all this response.

35:04 So now the Democrats, their communication system, the elite communi- I should say the globalist communication system is out of whack. Because as you say, you've got these protests, they don't have that under control, that self-activating. Why? Because you don't need to go on TV anymore to tell people it's done amongst cell phones, etc. And they really don't have it under control and they weren't expecting it, obviously. And to be honest with you, Many years ago, not many years ago, but when the rioting in Baltimore happened and the mayor, I can't remember her name, they said it was a gaffe when she said we're gonna give them room to riot or space to riot. I don't think that was a gaffe. I think that was the truth wanting to come out. That was the plan. Perimeter room, let them burn stuff up, let them riot.

36:00 and we'll use this politically for our purpose because it seems like there's always a allow space to riot in every one of these situations and it's like, hold on, I had to rethink that thing and I'm sorry, I hate I don't have the clip right off hand but when she said that I was like, it was a gaffe at the time. But looking back, I think this was their playbook of Let them get activated through rioting and the imagery of, you know, unrest. But what they did was piss off a lot of good black people. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of the cops shooting somebody 14 times. But I'm also tired. Pissed off the white people too. It's like everyone's tired of it for sure. No one wants to see this. And this is happening in an epicenter

37:02 of the black vote that's needed for a swing state. That's why I was saying every vote is not the same. If you live in Philadelphia, if you live in Detroit, if you live in Dade County and all these other places that have high population of black people, your vote weighs more. then a black voter saying California or New York or these places where it's kind of like red and blue. Right, it can make a difference for the state. Yeah, I got it. You can make a huge difference for the national election. I mean, they're going to go through some numbers later on these clips, but going back to the show one,

37:47 Fox Business News spoke on having to have the turnout. What's really fun about that is that, you know, as you say, the Democratic Party has taken the African-American, the black vote for granted.

38:30 And it's to such a degree that they actually forgot how important the black vote really was. That's how much they've forgotten about the African-Americans. They don't even know how, they're like, oh crap, yeah we had, it's been sewn up for so long. Like, oh we haven't really had to think about that, have we? Oh man. And so that's the panic you're seeing. Well they thought Obama would hold us in place. Right. Where they could roll them out the last week of the election cycle or the last two weeks of the election cycle like they do at black churches. I mean what you're seeing here is what's done on the local level. Yeah. Roll them out the last couple weeks. Tell you, yo, we gotta go do this. We gotta win. But the problem was the worst thing the Democrats ever did was let Barack Obama win. And let me explain.

39:23 When he got in there, didn't do anything. It was like, well, if he's not gonna do it, Joe ain't gonna do it, Kamala ain't gonna do it. So it kind of made people callous in a way that if he couldn't do it in eight years, it can't be done. So now we need to start valuing our vote. And the other miscalculation that the DNC made was, Well, we have this Brown vote and if we can give them immigration or amnesty or whatever you want to call it, or at least drag them along with the carrot of amnesty or... Promise them something, yeah, promise them something. Yeah, promise them something. A study, a study or a commission or some blue ribbon panel. Yeah. We can keep them

40:16 Strung along. Lack of a better word. On the plantation until we can phase out the black vote. The black vote was meant to be phased out. That's why I said this election here is going to be, are we willing to go back and take not being appreciated or are black people going to say, you know what? we're going to decide the candidates based off of what they have to offer to us. And this is a huge, this is a game changer because I keep saying this reminds me, I wasn't living then, but from what I've studied, a lot like 64. You have one candidate that thinks he has the vote in the bag and then you have another candidate that's willing to at least do gestures to put the vote back into play.

41:14 And if that voter turnout number is low enough, that signals to both parties. I mean, look how much we accomplished in the last few months of this election cycle. Now, if you have this going in the first couple of weeks of a new election cycle, people coming with plans like Ice Cube, the contract with Black America, things of that nature. Now you have a party, two parties that have to put up a shut up. Yeah, Ice Cube did a really good job with that because he brought that to the forefront as best he could. I will say though, as an American, and I understand, I feel after having talked with you for all this time, that not voting is a powerful way of expressing your opinion, your voice in the election. I do find it sad because I'd rather that there would be enough

42:04 And I'm not, I don't even like the idea that we're a so-called two-party system, which we're not. Which is why I usually vote independent just to make sure we can still have independent people. But it does make me sad that there is nothing that is representative enough for the black vote to actually come out and support. So to me, it's yeah, it's a win to get away from the plantation, which I totally see how you see that, but I find it sad that there's nothing there that is representative enough where the African-Americans are going, yeah, this is our person.

42:43 It doesn't matter in any way, but I just want to say I find that personally quite sad and maybe it'll be better next time around. Well, what you have is progress because it seems to me, just speaking for black men, I mean, because I am one, allegedly. Yeah, I haven't actually seen you, so who knows? But okay, we'll take your word for it, allegedly. But what it has here is we're doing one party To not put a vote on the board is a favor to the Republican Party. I know, I know it is, but you understand what I'm saying. I'm not disputing the math or how it works. I do, but the problem is we have to be strategic about this because if you just go and give your vote to the other side, then it's like, oh well, we've done enough.

43:39 And what we need to do is, and I want to say this now, because I know everybody said, oh, reparation, reparation, reparations. That's all you talk about, Mo. The reason why I say that is that needs to become our amnesty. That needs to become our Roe versus Wade, either protecting it or trying to take it off for whatever the special interest group you're in, pro-life or pro-choice. It's that thing that's, it's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, right? To say, You might not give it to us this time, but how closer will we get to each election cycle? Or it may have to be done piecemeal, $500 billion at a time. That's fine. Put the money on the table. You'll see us at the polls and then the day after November 4th, we'll start talking on the next deal. We have to be very pragmatic here.

44:43 And the problem is, is this voting has become emotional for my people. It's, oh, you know, I feel guilty. Whenever somebody found out I voted for Trump or, you know, the Democrats said that we vote or die. Okay, so if your option is to be given vote or die, right? That's what you're being told. People trivialize that, but death Yes, what party wins powerful and we say all we're saying is give me liberty or give me death Give me freedom to make a choice, but not based off of guilt not based off of shame but what the Tangibles are on the table or you know, if it brings death so be it

45:39 Well that is truly the American way. That is the most patriotic thing you can say. Give me liberty or give me death. And I understand, I think what you're saying, the way I parse it is, it would be a mistake for the so-called black vote to just say, okay, these guys are no good, here you go Republicans, because then you also have no negotiating You want to have something on the upside for the next time around. I hear you. I hear you. I'm just saying, I find it sad that we have to... If that was good, this would be great. Yeah, exactly. It's just sad that we have to take, you know, one big step back to go one step forward. That's all I'm saying. And maybe it's the only way to go. I know it's the way you believe. And we'll see. We'll see what happens. I'm still hoping Kanye gets a couple votes. Oh, and that's another... I mean, but...

46:30 Kanye is the new way of thinking. I think Kanye is going through this 2020 cycle the same way when he went to Gucci to learn how to make quality couture clothes. Now he wasn't able to do it for Gucci or Louis or whoever, but he took that experience and rolled it into, you know, $5 billion out of nowhere. So I'm not sleeping on Kanye as far as not for 2020, but he's the kind of person when he puts his mind to something and he said it and he kind of took his hat. I mean, I didn't catch, I didn't capture any clips from that conversation because I'm still digesting it. But he did want to say one thing. He said, I want to be the leader of the free world

47:24 even if that doesn't mean being president. Yeah, and I think you and I had a text about that and I said being the leader of the free world doesn't necessarily mean being the president. You don't have to be the president to be the leader of men. And maybe he could put his arm around the next presidential candidate. Right. Maybe he's building the apparatus, you know, or learning that. I mean, that's what Kanye does. He gets inside of something and then he learns it. I mean, when he first started, I mean, just as a quick aside, when he first started rapping, he didn't come in as a rapper. He came in as a producer and had to learn how to rap. When he started designing clothes, he came in as a rapper and learned how to design new fashion, you know, and then he mastered it. So now he's in politics.

48:14 He's learning, he's deconstructing it. That's the best way. Yeah, and what's good is Trump has broken so many barriers and holy grounds that when and if Kanye is ready to go ahead and give it a real shot, His style of thinking and communication will at least not be rejected completely out of hand I think people will say well hold on a second of what is he actually saying we stop and listen to it You know and he'll get better at doing that too and just as I think we've seen President Trump get better at communicating to it was very very Incoherent from time to time certainly a couple years back and the way he's mastered a rally now. Mm-hmm It was like really herky-jerky He would either read from the teleprompter

49:04 You know and sound scripted or sound like a madman like, you know, that kind of thing. But now he's mastered the way of I think the way they set the teleprompter up, they give him a chunk to read. Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. And then he ad-libs for, no, like maybe two, three minutes. And then the teleprompter, he catches it back. And then he reads for, which is, like I said, I think Kanye would have to go through something similar where you can't just speak completely off the cuff. You have to have some kind of structure to it. You gotta have a guide, a guide to follow along. But he sounded very,

49:42 measured on the Joe Rogan interview. He did, but a lot of people I spoke to, they said it was very hard for me to follow. I couldn't really understand. And I realized that I've had a lot of exposure to a lot of things and a good education in a Kanye as well and having followed him for a long time. where, you know, it's tough. A lot of people just go, you know, they can't parse it. It's not in the ready-made bytes that they want to get and so they just kind of say, it's Kanye and that's then supported by media telling you he's nuts, etc. So it's just an uphill battle but if anyone can do it, it would be Kanye. It could be Kanye but getting back to the numbers, you were saying that you would like to see those numbers

50:32 as in the early voting. Well, I got this clip from CNN with David Axelrod and they're freaking out. Hey David, I just want to stick with you for a second because of Florida. So there is information that the early in-person vote in at least Miami-Dade County, which Hillary Clinton won handily but lost the state, The Republican turnout is far outpacing the Democratic turnout. And it is so concerning to the Congresswoman, Frederica Wilson, who covers that region, that she says she has been trying to sound the alarm to the Biden campaign. She says that they haven't been doing door-to-door canvassing because of the pandemic.

51:14 They haven't invested money in the people there on the ground who know how to turn out the vote. Here is her quote to Politico. I screamed, hollered, I called, I lobbied from the top to the bottom. Wilson said of her efforts to turn out operations started in the community, including sending written proposals to Biden's campaign and having virtual Zoom meetings with his advisers, she thinks they're not listening to her. Well, I'm sure they're looking at these early vote numbers from Florida. There is a, the one that struck my eye is that Miami-Dade is much lower than the rest of the state in terms of a percentage of early voters coming out. And that is a place where he has to, Joe Biden has to mount a

51:57 huge advantage going into Election Day. The other thing you notice if you look deeply into these numbers is that where the falloff is appears to be among African-American voters. And that is a concern. That is a concern, yes. That's a bit of a problem. Who could foresee this happening? I don't know. You should listen to a podcast from time to time. You might learn something. As he said, you have Miami-Dade County. This is kind of how the Democrats work. And I've learned this over watching election results. You have this one little county, one little district where the black vote

52:43 It's just highly concentrated and then the outside counties or districts would kind of, you know, bounce it out. So they have to run these numbers up. I saw this in 2012 where they'd be like, oh, this state looks like it's going Trump. And as you watch overnight, it would just start slowly swing back over to the Republican side. Now going in, they can see one of the swing states, Florida, They're not getting the turnout that they need in this where they need to build up a huge amount, as his words, need to mount a huge advantage. And it's due to the black voters not coming out. And typically, you would think black voters will be the one that's voting early, because they're concerned about voter suppression. So it's like, let me get my vote in as soon as possible. Whereas, as I mentioned before, Trump's telling his people to come out.

53:40 on voting day. So they're in deep doo-doo. Well, and what the way you can tell the doo-doo is deep is the way that that the one lady was, you know, big cover your ass like, I told everybody, I've been telling everybody it's not good. Oh no, I've been screaming as loud as I can. No one's paying attention. I've been in business long enough to know that's someone going, holy crap, I don't want any of it on me. Yes, Adam. That is what you call CYA. That's right because she knows that she was held guardian over this little blue dot in this red state and she should have rang the bell early. Of course, they're going to blame her for it, but

54:33 You had to see this coming. No, because on show one, going back again, when Obama was urging African Americans to vote, He even said it would take historic turnout to win. And after we have achieved historic turnout in 2008 and 2012, especially in the African American community, I will consider it a personal insult, an insult to my legacy if this community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to get... You failing to activate, activate!

55:13 He's like my legacy yeah all about this community No, no mine mine. My mine. This is where this is where you know he's tone-deaf. Yeah, because he won't say a person is aware would say our legacy Go out and vote those kind of things, not my legacy and this community. He would say our community, our legacy, use it as a plural possessive pronouns, but that's not what he did. It was like, get on vote, I told you, you know, and just the tone in itself, but he even, every time I hear that clip, my blood starts to boil because the audacity of this guy

56:07 to come along and talk down to black people and everybody just okay yeah okay we're okay with it you know that's Obama and you did nothing for black people while you were in I mean nothing nothing symbolic we didn't get the dub Tubman, the dubman, we didn't get that we didn't get these are symbolic things that he could at least, voting day being a holiday, Juneteenth. These were simple things that he could have done to say, you know what, at least I gave you Juneteenth. At least I made voting a national holiday. I gave you the Dubman. None of it.

56:54 That is neglect, it's neglectful and he is the reason you can't blame Trump because if it wasn't for Barack Obama, Trump wouldn't exist. It wouldn't exist at all. But let's get back to one of the previous clips and how they're rolling out athletes and here is a Maddie Johnson and his ad for Joe Biden. Hello Detroit, it's Magic Johnson. This is the most important election of our lifetime. And this year, Michigan will be key in deciding who will be our next president. There's too much at stake to sit this one out. We need to elect Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to bring our country together. The good news, voting has never been easier or more accessible. There are more ways to vote early

57:47 early than ever before in Detroit. There are more than 20 early vote centers now open across the city. They will be open seven days a week until election day. Seven days a week until election day. So you can get registered and vote in one quick stop right then and there. So find time, make a plan to vote early. You can go to IWillVote.com to get more information. Your vote is your voice. Please vote. Where did they record that? In front of his McDonald's franchise on the highway? They could have done a better job on that. I don't know. The wind was blowing. It just kind of slapped it together. It did feel like a last minute job, didn't it?

58:35 I knew you were going to pick up on the sound quality because of what you do. And I'm glad I didn't lead you. But it's, hey, you got a smartphone? Hey, Magic, can we get you to say a few kind words about Biden? I'm telling you, it's the same sound guys that have done so many of those Biden things. They literally do it on an iPhone. It's so lame. Let's look past the poor quality. Okay, it just tells me something. It just tells me something. That's all. But let's not miss the bigger piece of information here. He said voting has never been easier. Polls open seven days a week, 24-7.

59:22 How is that voter and then you can register and vote in one quick stop? Mm-hmm. How does that doesn't job with voter suppression? I think people have heard this voter suppression line so long that they don't They don't it's it's always someone else. Someone's getting suppressed. I'm not just not me, but someone's getting suppressed And what does it really even mean? But my question is the way he says it, they took it in their control to make sure whoever wanted to vote would have a place to vote. So why in Georgia and Texas you have these lines around the block for black communities to vote? You had a

1:00:02 Mr. Juicy, pause, of Roland Martin crying as he rolled around the parking lot showing how long the line was. But in Michigan, oh, so we got, you wanna vote? You can vote, never been easier. One stop shop. So I just found it interesting that he said that. It's like y'all are not even on brand. Also, my district here in Austin, which is Democrat run, And I am in the opportunity zone. So I am in literally an opportunity zone. So we have our polling place is for poor people. And there was no line. We went Friday. There was no line, there was no problem. And Texas is all I hear is, oh, they're suppressing the vote in Texas. Oh, it's the worst ever. It wasn't. Now, we're not the same as Houston, but still, I was ready to wait.

1:01:01 Couple hours if necessary. It was nothing nothing at all walk right in here's a sinister thought that just had you from you you frequent New York City Mm-hmm. How did you know what club to go to? How did I know what club to go to? Well, yes, or it's what spot to go to? The line? Well, yes, the velvet rope concept. If you want to make your club look popular, put a velvet rope up and keep people out, and then everyone will flock to it. Maybe that's what they're doing. And I'm just shooting for the hip here, because when you said that, it just sparked a thought in my brain.

1:01:42 Why do they have the line? If you ride past like, oh man, the voting is deep. Let me go get in line. Just like with the Popeye's chicken. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, the line creates more business to get more people to get in the line because it seems like it's the popular thing to do. The Popeye's chicken might've been a dry run. I'm just saying, I mean, whenever you see, I know when we go to the barbershop, you're like, uh, you're new. Just let me say this, when we're talking politics, barbershop has to go with it. You're new to a barbershop, you're like, who you waiting on? And like, you got four guys waiting on one guy. It's like, okay, I'm getting to be fifth in that line. Right, exactly. Obviously he cuts the best hair. Right, and has the best political talk. Right. So I'm just saying, maybe these lines are strategic, because it doesn't make any sense if they have the,

1:02:35 the access to voting in their control as Matt Johnson said that's why I included that in that clip because it's going off brand but enough with magic we can get straight into number 12. This year we're playing to win. Three things to know. One, sometimes good people have bad information. That wild meet me uncle session with a conspiracy about COVID and mail-in voting? It might be from Moscow. No joke. What you can do, fact check the family chat, but do it with finesse. Two, you don't need a ref to see that not everyone is playing fair out here. That Twitter beef about Biden's Democratic plantation by spicy Black King 411? It might not be real. You could be talking to a bot.

1:03:11 or pay in troll, what you can do. Ignore the internet gangster, only fight with your teammates. Three, register, then vote. Early if you can, let's go. Stay focused, stay winning. Under Review, a partnership with More Than A Vote and Win Black. So speaking of ballers, this is LeBron James' effort to get the vote out, but I noticed that he learned a lot from 2016. He doesn't want to get too close to a candidate. No. So he does this thing, what is it called? He's a pushback at misinformation and he's like, oh, if your uncle tells you about a... It's probably Russian. Of course, and they're bots. And I mean, it's still the same talking point. It's the bots. It's the bots. But MSNBC, this was on deadline.

1:04:02 discussing LeBron, but yeah I think LeBron's like, I'm not gonna go and campaign for a candidate, but I will you know put some money in, put my muscle behind getting Joe Biden elected without getting any blowback on me. But he did have that vote or die shirt which It irks me. It irks me big time. It's like, really? Are we really gonna die? I mean, knock it off. I mean, that's bullcrap. Well, also, Joe Biden is the party of China, so it makes sense that LeBron would want to be all in on him. I mean, look, we just haven't found the documents yet on Hunter's laptop that include LeBron, but it's coming. You know it is. I don't want to go there, but this Lakers championship

1:04:56 I mean, it's... Yeah. And knowing who Balmer is now... And his politics, wow, I mean like I think there's something stinky there with the NBA. And the NBA is in big trouble, man. They got, with their revenue down, which could be down as much as 40% for the next year, now they're running into all kinds of things like salary caps that can't be paid because the revenue's low. It's a mess. It's a real, and I don't know everything about it, but I read enough to know there's real problems in the NBA. Yeah, and they wouldn't play in the arenas, but they want to turn the arenas into voting polls. Well, hello. Yeah. And have black. It's safe, not safe enough for us to play in, but we can, we can let you come and vote. I mean, the psychology behind it is very, we're cannon fodder. That's what we are. We're cannon fodder. But let's get into the, I think we're at 13, the part two of this, this LeBron James clip.

1:05:58 You might have recognized the voices of Desus and Mero. That was part of a collaboration with LeBron James effort, More Than a Vote. As you heard, it's called Under Review, a new rapid response operation aimed at flooding the zone, as they say, with facts in order to counter political misinformation targeting black Americans, black voters. On LeBron's latest venture, the New York Times writes, says, quote, more than a vote has invested in recruiting more than 40,000 poll workers, helping formerly incarcerated people regain their voting rights and aiding the push for NBA arenas to be converted into polling locations. We're back with former Congresswoman Donna Evers and Jason Johnson. I don't think LeBron Evers, LeBron James Evers off the court get as much attention as they deserve, Jason. I mean, we've been covering them because they're so, they go so much deeper. They're so much more tactical than just using the bully pulpit. Nicole Wallace, man, I really do not like her. She is so mean.

1:06:59 I have to give her credit the way she spun that though. Because the way she spun it was... People are like, why LeBron is not campaigning for Biden? Well, the way she spun it is he's being more tactical. Tactical, yes. But LeBron, I'm not getting that mess on him. He had a... Him and Jay-Z. If you notice, Jay-Z has been missing through this whole election cycle. And Beyonce. Haven't seen her either. Because they caught so much blowback from going on stage with Hillary Clinton. Yeah, it was like no, we're not I'm not doing that anymore but that's how she had to spin it was all he's being tactical and

1:07:41 Why is it just now that you're getting these NBA arenas turned into polling stations? I don't understand. They talk about voter suppression, voter suppression, and I know I'm harping on this, but very few people understand that it's in their control. They could create more polling places. Why don't they? If that's what if that's really what you want to do if voting was really that important to politicians They would have outlawed it decades ago We all know that it just it would be better if nobody voted just a couple people to push them through

1:08:19 Let's get into his last clip. I can't take any more of it, but let's get into the last clip with LeBron. So this is what I like about what LeBron is doing this time. It was sort of in the New York Times article. He's out there talking about issues instead of a candidate. In 2016, he did a lot for Hillary Clinton in Ohio, but you can't change how people feel about Hillary Clinton. But what you can talk about is, hey, who's your local district attorney? Hey, what's your school board situation? Is anybody taking care of your grandmother who has to deal with COVID? And this is the kind of nonsense that's being targeted at you. There's been so much effort to suppress the black vote, in particular, the African American male vote that LeBron and George Paul and all these other players, they recognize that they have to be the antidote to people like Ice Cube and 50 Cent, who are going to make a lot of noise representing a much smaller portion of the African American vote and African American male vote than LeBron represents.

1:09:12 So I like the fact that he is tactical and ideological about this. You've been telling them not to vote? If you want to take that as suppression, I'm just saying. That's what they're saying. That is what they're talking about. That's literally what they're talking about. Yeah, that's what the whole misinformation campaign, somebody shows you something on their laptop, Joe Biden, and I've seen this disgusting... I even called out one guy that was like the Libertarian Vice President nominee on Twitter about

1:09:55 About it the Joe Biden never said super predator Which is fact which is factually true? Yeah Actually, uh-huh, but they never clarify to go on to say yeah, he did say predator But they'll use that and this and if I say he didn't say that or somebody misspeaks He said he says who predator all that's misinformation is from the Russians Did you get a like or a follow from him? No, I did not but I did get a reply. I did. No, I did get a reply saying all my bad and then he did clarify to go on to say that.

1:10:31 He did say predator, but he was like fact-check Barack Obama me on excuse me Joe Biden didn't say Super predator and just left it there, and I'm like oh no you got to be a platform Thank you, so yeah, two big real platform to let that ride was this a white guy Yes, well you know how to you have to do that next time you always start off by saying I I am surprised you would use your privilege, you don't just say what it is, say I'm surprised you would use your privilege to, let's see in this case, to tell me I cannot correctly

1:11:07 Read quotes. I mean anything like that the minute you say almost to anybody you say I can't believe you used your privilege They're brain fries, and they and they go away. It's really beautiful try it Or you can say I'm surprised that you allowed your privilege to afford you the opportunity Yes and you don't have to put anything in about black, white, male, female, gay, straight, just say privilege and it fries people's brains. Oh my god, which privilege did I use? I have so many of them. Ah man, we are the problem.

1:11:50 Because we tell, now this is why I brought up the point with Matt Johnson and see he's saying all we have all this place to vote never been easier and then they come back with voter suppression. So are you saying if informing people not misinforming because you can say okay I got two pieces of information let me see which one seems valid or not. Right. But just the act of putting information in front of somebody that counters the narrative misinformation. It's clearly classified misinformation. Of course. Man, that's very troubling. That's very, very troubling. But a lot of these people are gonna be out of jobs come November 4th. I mean, let's just be clear. They're throwing everything against the wall. I don't know, man. Now they will bring in a new cycle or a new lineup, but

1:12:43 If you noticed Melissa Harris Perry, a lot of these people went missing at the 2012 and 2016. And this is the big enchilada here, it's like we can't beat Trump, we can't beat anybody. That's a real problem. Speaking of ballers, Baller Barry Obama sticks his head out the hole. Yeah, I saw this. He threw a three pointer.

1:13:32 Yeah, and then he bops off with the classic Obama bop. He's like, Sam, that's what I do. That's what I do. I stand in the corner and I throw three pointers in my free time. You haven't seen this man shoot a basketball since he was in the White House. It's all golf, golf, golf. But now all of a sudden, when it's time to talk to black people, he's like, give me the rock, pass me the rock. And then also Obama said he was trash anyway. I mean, Michelle Obama said he was trash anyway. So I mean, but this is what I do, but I saw through it right away.

1:14:08 Let's invoke the cool Obama and he hits the three and then he bops off screaming This is what I do and it's supposed to give people the warmest fuzzies and we go vote for him No, not happening too little too late. Yeah, I know I may sound like I'm being hard on him, but he is the representation of the bigger problem yeah, I So what we need to do is go back in history and these are some clips to explain why he's the problem And he allowed himself to be used and this is from far Excuse me. This is from Fahrenheit 11 9 that was made in 2008 by Michael Moore. And when a message is urgent enough sometimes help arrives City of Flint USA

1:15:05 May 5th, 2016, POTUS has arrived. The people of Flint had one last beacon of hope. We were all invited to this big thing where President Obama was going to speak to us about the problem. Oh my gosh, this is so cool! Oh yes! Oh yes! We've been waiting. Once he sees, he can make a conscious decision to push this with urgency. Clinton's recovery is everybody's responsibility. And I'm going to make sure that responsibility is met. That's why I'm here. To tell you directly that I see you and I hear you. We invest. Can I get some water? Oh yeah. I remember this.

1:16:09 Come on up here. I want a glass of water. Get a bottle. Get a bottle. A bottle of water. Don't let him drink the tap water. Everybody settle down. This is a feisty crowd. Thank you. I really did need a glass of water, this is not a stunt. That was classic. That was such a good one. Did you hear the fake cough? Oh yeah, sure. I really didn't. This is not a setup. And it's going to show you even then.

1:16:52 when Flint was going on, he still had the people at his back. And he's like, I see you, I hear you. I ain't gonna do a damn thing for you. Now give me that water so I can drink it. And then we can get it wrapped the thing up. He act like he doesn't have this history. I don't understand all the Democrats act like he doesn't have this history. And, well, Moe, Moe, Moe, if you come from a completely constructed fake background, it doesn't matter. You can forget all that history. Image Obama is not who he is. We know that. We've gone through that.

1:17:35 So it's no problem for him to, or anybody who's around him to pretend that he has, he just has no history. He's a blank slate every time you see him. He can be whoever he wants because it's all phony to him. But the problem is the people that you're trying to communicate and activate, they have a very long memory. And this is exactly why he's the Democrat Party is struggling in Michigan and need to roll out Magic Johnson because Flint didn't forget this. And Detroit is another major urban quote unquote urban area that they need to pile up votes like Miami-Dade County. And if you don't get that that big start in those places like Flint and Detroit, you're going to lose. Yeah.

1:18:24 And it's all because of Obama or how the Democrats maneuver. Like you said, he's a blank slate, how they maneuvered and allow him to move that he didn't do anything for symbolic or not for the black community. But he can use symbolism as we saw with this glass of water. And it didn't land well. What he feels like to me You know, so in the 80s there were big rock stars, you know, that's probably, I dealt more with big rock stars than anything. And it's kind of, when I see Obama and you compare him to, you know, the big speeches, which he was beautiful, he's so fantastic the way he did. If he has the crowd and he's got the staging and the lighting and man, he's in his element, it's a beautiful thing to watch.

1:19:15 And now it's the equivalent of watching one of those rock stars from the 80s or maybe even from the 70s show up at the Westbury Music Fair on a shitty stage, you know, the crowd's mediocre, he's overusing his voice, he's yelling a lot harder because he, you know, he needs the feedback, he needs that setting and he doesn't have it and it's just, it It doesn't have the sheen, it doesn't have the magic at all. And we live in a visual world. So when I see Philadelphia or I see any of these places where he's popping up, even when he's like calling Joe Biden out on the stage and you know the stage the Whatever stage management is going on. He has to wait five minutes and called Joe eight times before he comes out. That's embarrassing It's embarrassing He shows it his whole body language shows it and the audience knows it because we know we're supposed to be seeing from a show And we're not getting it and it's fallen apart and it's very transparent and but that goes to show you they think

1:20:16 election cycle to election cycle. They didn't say let's preserve Obama, right? Obama, you take the black male side of saying yes, we need to have something for our vote. Now we might not win 2020, so be it, but at least you're back in the play. You're back a viable political asset. What they've done is run him into the ground to the point where he doesn't have any sway with the people. None. And that's what happened. And you're going to hear this from the second clip from the Fahreheit 11-9. What? He wet his lips. He did not drink it. He didn't sip it. He wet his lips. There was an audible gasp in the audience. People were just like absolutely dejected. Why would you do that?

1:21:12 I am sure that somewhere when I was two years old I was taking a paint chips paint Tasting it, and I got some lead. Yeah, that's like talking about like, well, I didn't wear a seatbelt and I'm fine. It's like, but there were tons of people that died. Backstage, the president sitting at the table with the criminal governor decided to perform his stunt all over again. You know, generally I have not been doing stunts here, but you know. That's not what I expected.

1:21:48 That's what Snyder did. It felt like he minimized what people were actually going through and struggling with. If you were actually lead poisoned, you would not be president. You would be janitor Barack Obama. We were holding on to hope that he would declare a disaster area. A disaster would give us FEMA, it would give us pipe replacement, get engineers in here. Then we could get Medicare for all the residents of Flint. As soon as he took a drink of the water and said everything's fine, that was that. And look at it, years later, it's still poison. When he came here, he was my president. But when he left, he was not my president.

1:22:32 Wow. That's it right there. That's it right there. He came here as my president. And that's, you can, you could surmise his whole eight years is that. He came in as our president, but he left not our president. Because the way he treated Flint, he treated all the black people the same way. You can't even get a trial or investigation on Trayvon Martin or any of these things. I mean, if nothing else, like, hey, you got to do something. Well, that's not what he he didn't want to upset the status quo. Here's what he has done He has a free weekend on HBO with an episode of the shop in uninterrupted which is a former president Barack Obama and and he's right there with LeBron James so they're out and doing stuff together. This is great. Get your free HBO

1:23:31 And that's what they said about Biden was doing, creating these barbershop situations where we could talk. The talking's over. You missed the conversation. We've been saying this ever since you left office. We understand how pop... What happened was black people got a crash course in how politics work. Before it was like, if we can just get a black president, if we can just get a black president, Now it doesn't matter what color the president is, it's what they can promise and then turn around what they can deliver. And you hold them accountable for what they promised and what they delivered. Just like Trump, he's on the clock now. If he wins, it's gonna be where's the platinum?

1:24:20 And we missed a great opportunity when Ice Cube got involved. It should have been iced out platinum plans. Oh, that would have been nice. Yes, very nice. Well, this is probably one of the big stories after this election, no matter which way it goes, is the demise of Barack Obama. I mean, he went from rock star to failed television producer. He's two years late with his book. I mean it's completely fallen apart. The mirage of what he is, what he stood for, what he is as a man, it's completely gone. Yeah, and I know people are saying, well you sound like you're beating up on Obama. Yes. But Obama is the icon that the DNC created to galvanize us and bring us in. So when that icon doesn't deliver, he has to take the brunt

1:25:21 of the pushback and the disappointment and everything negative that comes along with playing racial politics. It's always a pendulum, man. It goes one way and it comes back and it goes back again and you just don't want to be hit by the pendulum. So in these next set of three clips, this is going to cover how it created the environment for a Donald Trump to run and win First, just how it created the environment for him to even run. And we're going to get into three throwback clips. The first two are from Show 23. And this is Tavis Smiley, Black America Lost Ground Under Obama. This week while we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade. As Martin Luther King Day approaches on Monday, we started by talking about what areas, if any, are better for Black America now than they were before Barack Obama took office.

1:26:18 I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic category, black America has lost ground over the last decade. In every major economic category we've lost ground. So this book comes out, as you said, in 2006. So clearly this book was out before Obama shows up to win in 2008. So the book was never about Barack Obama then. This 10-year update is not about him now but it is true that over these last 10 years most of that on his watch black America has lost ground in the major economic indicator categories. Yeah, that was episode 23 right? Yeah. So we lost ground. How does that happen under the first black president? That goes to show you that we were not in the plans at all past getting him elected. You

1:27:06 You have to say if nothing else, they have this lease maintain what they have. But to lose ground in every major measure, I mean, it seems almost like on purpose. I know I'm being very cynical, but how does that happen? You're coming out of 08, everybody at 07, 08, that's when the whole market reset. So you think if it's going to be an upswing, everybody should be able to give him that upswing and you will see at least better off or at the same level that we were when he took office, but that's not the case. And for Tavis Smiley writing his book, we're still looking for Tavis.

1:27:53 Tavis, if you're out there... Tavis got deplatformed from a lot of things. He got cancelled hard. But also, no one had anything to show for after the Obama presidency. Everything, I mean, it was an unfortunate start in 2008, but black, white, brown, I don't think anyone had any improvement. True, but I'm just saying, if, okay, it's like saying he'd have been the first woman president No, I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying he failed on a lot of fronts, not just... but you would have thought that indeed the one thing because of the first black president, the one thing, he could have done one thing and there's really nothing to point to, is there? Not a single thing. There is nothing and then people say, oh well, this is their favorite go-to.

1:28:48 Well, he let us know that our children could be president one day. Well, hell, I don't want my kids to be president if they can't do anything for us. Sometimes it's just better to know where you're standing. Okay, we're still here. Is that really something that you hear said as well? He at least showed us that it's possible? These are talking points. One, what did he do for us? He showed us that we can make it there. Two, then you'll say, Well, why didn't he get anything done? Well, he didn't have the, you know, the, he had, this is two things. Either he had to be the president for everybody or he didn't have the, you know, the House and the Senate or the Republicans met up the day he was inaugurated to say they were going to say no to him. That's how politics work. Hello.

1:29:44 He had the House, he had the Senate, and he spent all of that time making Wall Street rich, which is what Obamacare is. Obamacare is an insurance scheme, and insurance companies are not buildings with people in lab coats walking around. It's not, you know, it's banks, it's bankers, guys in suits, speculating with the money, giving 30 cents on the dollar to hospitals. That was, that's what he was there to do. and pushed that through hell or high water and squandered every other opportunity while doing that. That was his mission. He accomplished that to some degree. And luckily enough for me, I was established after he got in the office, but for a lot of men that worked their way up,

1:30:33 through the ranks from age like 21 to 26, 27, you don't have health insurance. It's just like I'm healthy. I don't have any kids. I'm doing what I need insurance for that kind of thing. But to say you have to buy insurance, that would have been a big a big problem or a big cost to me if I would have just shifted back under his under his uh administration if I was in the same position. And that was just the smallest part of of the scam really. I'm just saying, but that, that when it hits home, every dollar of your paycheck is accounted for for that two weeks. And then you say, oh, you have to either buy insurance or pay a penalty. Even that would have hurt me. Luckily, I was gangfully employed and had health benefits. I went without insurance for a year and a half.

1:31:32 Yeah, I went without insurance from the age of... I literally could not get insurance. I could not get insurance. Well, yeah, $2,000 a month. It's like, I can't pay that. So I took the $300 penalty twice. And still no insurance. And Mr. Craig, you had to pay for something he don't still have insurance. That's what it is. And the other thing I was excited about, at least he said, the government option where you could buy in and it would have been a set price. It's like, okay, at least if you want to be a small business owner or entrepreneur, that kind of thing, it's like, okay, at least I can get insurance for this price. Yeah, but it was unaffordable. It was unaffordable. There was no good price.

1:32:17 No, I'm saying the way he sold it. Oh sure if it were to work it would allow people to because a lot of people don't get into Being an entrepreneur because of giving up your health insurance and your benefits for your job. So if that would have been Available you would maybe seen a lot of people coming out of oh eight Maybe taking more chances, but it didn't happen that way. So I guess we'll wrap up with Tavis here because it's some more vital information in the second clip for that show. Tavis Miley too. What accounts for the fact that less that so little progress or indeed the backsliding what accounts for that going on on

1:32:55 under the leadership of the first African American president. How do we explain that? Yeah, I think there are a few things. And to your question, how do we explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how in the era of the first black president, the bottom fell out for black America. That's going to be a hard juxtaposition to make. I hope to be around to read what their account is for why they think that happened. But my research in this text suggests a few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too much deference to the president by black people. We got so caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference in some part to

1:33:34 to the president on the part of black people. Black leaders were sidelined and silenced too often in favor of an invitation to the White House. And so more could have been done in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay and lesbian community, look at the environmental movement. Of course, Wall Street gets everything they want, but look at what other communities gained over the last decade and look how black America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground over the last 10 years in part, one, because we were too deferential. The reason why I wanted to play this clip, because it may seem like, oh, well, we're going through a lot of go back clips, but we have to put things in the context. And it was something that once again, you hear these clips, but then when you re-hear them, you hear something else. The bottom didn't fall out for Black America. Black America was re-established as the bottom. It's like, no, get down, press, press, press. All right, now we have a firm bottom. We can build from there.

1:34:32 And once we, and I'm just gonna speak for black men, saw you're pushing what? And this group got that and we don't get anything. It was this animosity. It was this, and we had a shared animosity with one of 45 Savage as you were here in number 20. You, Mr. Trump, recognize that the real problem was a lack of leadership. And so ultimately you didn't blame Little John or Meatloaf. You fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night. Well handled, sir.

1:35:24 Well handled. But it just kept going and going and he just kept hammering him and I thought, oh Barack Obama is starting something that I don't know if he'll be able to finish. Say what you will about Mr. Trump, he certainly would bring some change to the White House. Let's see what we've got up there. I think that is the night that he resolves to run for president. I think that he is kind of motivated by it. Kind of. Maybe I'll just run. Maybe I'll show them all. Every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to President Trump. It's everyone who's ever doubted Donald, whoever disagreed, whoever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe. Well, of course.

1:36:22 It was real insults. It was really, really quite a spectacle. And when I saw it, I knew that was going to be the reason why Trump would take running seriously. I'm not going to say that it made him run, but he was in it to win it after this point. Because when you're being embarrassed that way publicly, that way, what that did was set Trump on a crash course with black men who had the same shared animosity for Obama. See this is why I'm making this episode. People think black people just woke up one day and were like, you know what, we're not gonna vote. No, it was the conditioning that happened. You're worse than you ever was, your schools suck, you can get shot walking down the street,

1:37:17 Now you have this whole Black Lives Matter kicking up, making people feel... Another mistake. Another mistake. It's another arrogant mistake. It is. It's a mistake. Yeah, but then at the same time, why are... All the things that Trump did recently with the policing, I think it was executive order. Why were those things on the table? Why was so many judge spots left open when you claim that you know that's the real the implementation of white supremacy is the courts right? Yeah. Why did he leave so many court spots open? It's just misstep after misstep after misstep that I would say it again that created this animosity towards Obama

1:38:13 No, I can't say the words but it was a you know, it was a you know, like bump this dude, but it's another way You you you went out a role for everybody else And then you come back around to 2016 and talk about your legacy. What legacy? Your legacy is we're worse off than we ever were. Your legacy is that you did nothing for the people that you're supposed to represent, black men or black people. So yeah, so when you credit Trump and Trump says what he says,

1:38:51 It's some things that fall true for us as well. We understand, yeah, he didn't do anything for us. What do we have to lose? Obviously, nothing. Keep that guy away from the office and anybody like him because he sends us backwards. If we're going backwards under him, we don't need to head that way. So this is what is the making of the voter block now that's in play in the 2020 election. I know that was a long way to get here, but this explains where we're at right now. I know I don't think anybody has ever taken the time, of course, why would they? But nobody's ever taken the time to understand the psychology of black men. And I have another clip here

1:39:37 Not only did he give us, he didn't do anything for Flint, he made us worse off than we was at any time in history, under what they measured, I guess, on the financial measurements. Then he talks down to us black men when he says we must take responsibility. They're providing guidance for our children. Turning off the TV set, putting away the video games, attending those parent-teacher conferences, helping our children with their homework, setting a good example. That's what everybody's got to do if we're going to be moving this country forward. Teaching our daughters to never allow images on television to tell them what they're worth. Teaching our sons to treat women with respect.

1:40:31 and to realize responsibility does not end at conception. That what makes them a man is not the ability to have a child but to raise one. That's a message we need to send. Hey, you're no good. You're no good, man. So what he did was just buy into all the stereotypes about black men. We run around, we don't take part in our kids' lives, we don't teach them anything, teach them how to read and do math and these things. And then We just make babies and just run off. You know how hard it is to be a deadbeat dad nowadays? To be honest with you, no, I'm serious. And this is something that I want to explore later on in another show because these memes of black men being deadbeats, it's almost impossible to be a deadbeat dad unless the mother allows you to be. Because with child support and DNA, that changed the whole game. Now, I would say- Yeah, yeah, the system is really sharp on that now.

1:41:32 I would say from no man in the house and to the creation of DNA and the implementation of DNA in the family court, you may have a point. But still, it was It may have a point, but when DNA came in, I would say maybe mid 90s. I'm not quote me on this, but I would just I'm just going off gut feeling here. When I start here, people talk about paternity tests and things of nature, maybe early mid 90s from that point. That's almost 30 years where the court dictates to you that you have if the mother feel like you need to be responsible.

1:42:13 All she has to do is go downtown and take you to the family court and either you pay or you go to jail. Those are your two choices. So this whole thing of take responsibility and blah, blah, blah. Bro, we've been taking responsibility. You're not talking to us. And when I say us, I'm talking about men of my age. I have a question. There was no... Yes. Well, and I don't want to interrupt your flow, but I'm doing it. So... No, go ahead, please do. Okay, so Joe Biden loses. Let's just look at the, you know, whenever we hear about this, and the numbers will show that black men and probably Hispanic men are the reason, either by not voting at all, by not turning out, or perhaps by voting for Trump, which is year two for one, as you explained.

1:43:01 And then moving forward, what receipts do you have? Because we're already seeing that that's being obfuscated. It's not being, the story's not being told. It will never be headline news. I have a hard time believing any media will say, holy crap, the Democrats screwed up with black men. What receipts do you have to show for the next time around? It's a lot of very intelligent brothers that dig into the numbers. And just cause you don't hear it on mainstream, and this is why this is the new media, what we're doing here. People get more information from platforms like this and others that they can't hide it anymore. And you said what, what was the word you use? What receipts do you have? Receipts? Yeah. Oh, the winning loss column.

1:43:51 Continue to do what you're doing and you'll continue to lose. Now if you enter the business of losing elections, that's fine. Don't change. Right, but I'm saying you need to show something to the winning party that you're responsible to. No, the winning party understands this. Yeah, okay. If you're talking about the Republicans, they completely understand it's this big gold nugget out here called, I mean you're just talking to men. Just black men, we're not talking about all black people. It's this big gold shiny nugget out here that will win every election for them from here on out.

1:44:32 if they can tap into that resource. And that's why you hear Trump saying what he's saying, you heard the Republicans saying we're reaching out to black men, you saw it with the RNC convention. It's politics, right? It's politics and it's looking at the demographics and how it can get you to win. Do you think that Trump is sincere when he says what he has to say? Do you think he's sincere in general with his attitude towards black people, black men? to show up Obama, yeah. And that's what I'm counting on. That's the only hope I have. And that's why I'm laying this out. To show up Obama to where he can do a victory lap and throw 500 billion, 200 billion, 100 billion into black people's lap and say, look, I took black people

1:45:19 They're worse! Yeah, in a way that is very Trumpian. It's like, you know, he's not a guy that goes up and sucker punches you in the face after you've insulted him. He goes back and he does the worst possible thing. So it could be more about screwing Obama than helping anybody, in all honesty, looking at his narcissistic nature. This has been the whole strategy. We don't know what a lame duck Trump looks like. Well, he doesn't have to cater to his base anymore. Because like I said, the 500 billion, if he was really trying to come at this, make it a trillion, but he has to count up. He's in the same position that the Democratic Party is right now because of the never Trumpers, that he has a piecemeal base. And he's like, okay, let me bring some of this black man in, okay? And it's like this, if he,

1:46:18 If he can bring black men in and for every black man he can bring in, he can push out a white supremacist vote. You see what I'm saying? This is not like something that we pulled out the crack of our butts here. I think Trump hates Obama more than we do. We can build off of that. And I know that sounds so terrible and so sinister, but it's politics. It's politics at the end of the day. I don't have any love for any of these people, but I will say this off of his narcissism if he can say you know what you know that guy that stood up there and lectured me at the um correspondence dinner I erased his whole legacy.

1:47:06 Yeah, and I could benefit from that so be it. Yeah, I mean a you create it and that's the point of this whole episode He could him and the DNC created this environment for this to fester by neglect So so be it is like we're rocky P dies. He dies I mean, I don't mean that literally but if his legacy dies it dies. It's not I am NOT the keeper of Obama legacy and If Trump doesn't do anything for me, guess what? It didn't cost me anything. I guess what I'm thinking is, you know, but just I'm deep in it with you, is it would be so nice if not just Trump and the Republicans or the Democrats, but really if America understood what shifted this.

1:47:53 And yeah, I know we're part of that, we're explaining that, but I would like it to be really apparent, because that's what's important. I'm in the media business and the brainwashing is complete, the brainwashing is good, it works so well. We save people one by one, bit by bit, to start thinking about them just differently, thinking for themselves. I just want to make sure that when this happens, and let's say it's this cycle, that it's really known. People are rewriting history every single day. This one has to be documented and has to be put into perspective and has to be taught. It's an important one because everybody can learn from this.

1:48:37 But we didn't understand 64 two years later what all the inner workings was with Nixon and Kennedy and King and but now with as you say the receipts it's quite clear and you can see how fast is moving at them in a year in a year's time if you say okay, we're gonna have rappers come out and embrace Trump. Yeah, or or not even embrace him but to say we'll hear him out and Yeah, because that's all we want to do is I mean we're starting to have a lunch I mean, that's how business deals happen. We're saying we have a lunch with you. Yeah, we weren't motivated to do anything. I was busy Tuesday anyway Because these same people were looked at as there the help good entertainment, right? Oh

1:49:31 and that's not the way it works anymore. Well certainly, certainly looking at, you know, as you were talking about Jay-Z and Beyonce in the 2016 cycle, they were totally treated as help. Hey, come on up, come on on stage, sing a little bit, say something nice, dance. Yeah, just dance, dance scene. Dance, do your thing, tell a joke. And that's what it is. So we have, and I'm going to continue with the Obama thing because I have to make this clear. This is more about Obama than it is Trump. And this is Obama's advocacy. Boyce Watkins, he is the author of The Eight Principles of Black Male Empowerment. He is a professor at Syracuse University. So, Boyce, welcome to you. Listen, I know that you endorsed Barack Obama many, many moons ago, but when it comes to this initiative, which we're about to see, you say this is too little too late. Why?

1:50:33 Well, you know I did some soul searching. I talked to people who have advocated for black males for their entire lives. People like Father Michael Flager in Chicago. I also talked to political scientist Michael Fonchoy. And our conclusion is that we have to figure out if this is real. and the proof is in the potato salad. When you decide you want to advocate for black males, which should not be a type of charity, you know, remember there are people out here in the community doing this work all the time who are trying to get resources. Right there in Chicago, I live on the same street as the president, I see Father Flager out there with the gangbangers, with the guys that are really struggling, and every time I see him he says, the brothers need jobs, the brothers need help. So when we reach out to Rahm Emanuel right there in Chicago, Obama's ally,

1:51:19 Are they also reaching back and offering the support that these people need? I think that's the kind of proof people have to look for. I wouldn't say this is a good program or a bad one. I would say that the evidence will speak for itself. Now who is this? Boyce? This is Boyce Watkins. Boyce Watkins, yeah. This is one of the people that's on quote unquote YouTube or the independent media that he held strong. I gotta give Boyce his props. because he was on this whole no voting thing as well. You don't not give anything, giving me anything for my vote, we're not voting. And a lot of people turned. They started out strong, but then it was like they found some glimmering hope to vote or that kind of thing. But he held strong so I got to give it to him and he was out here saying

1:52:05 the proof is in the potato salad. And I'm asking what every black person asks, who made the potato salad? That's what we need to know. And it ain't looking, it's looking real funny. So... It's interesting he had at one point a beef with Lil Wayne. So... Ain't it amazing? How these things come full circle is amazing. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah. But so... Very smart brother PhD Um, YouTuber. Yeah, but that's the thing. Everybody wants to just write people off. All these YouTuber, you know, what what majors network does he work for? What campaign does he work for? Right? Some of the best and brightest I'm talking about in psychology and finance and political science on YouTube. I mean, we're we're we haven't. We're just barely getting our toenail and then into the pool of

1:53:08 What's out there in information? It's not all the same. It's varying and I can go listen this guy and counter it with this guy and okay And you get a More complete picture and then you can this but this is the misinformation. They're stopping you from having yes This is the point. It's like no no no You to you to bot bot Russian Russian bot bot bot. Yes, yeah So that's what they wanted us to do. And there was no advocacy as Boyce said, he has to wait and see. As Tavis told us, nothing, it was nothing there. We've seen the proof in the potato salad.

1:53:53 But let's wrap up with the second clip from Boyce. Well, you know, it's almost when you when you go back six years ago and you remember when April Ryan asked the president, she said, look, black unemployment is almost at a depression level, a depression levels in certain cities. Black male unemployment is as high as 30, 40, 50 percent, which would be unacceptable in any other community. Are you going to do anything about this, about this deep inequality that exists in America? Back then he said something that I think was an incredible mistake. He said the rising tide will lift all boats, which really is a racialized version of trickle-down economics, which says if I help all of America, it's going to help black America too. Well, years later, and again, I'm a finance professor, so I follow Wall Street closely. Wall Street is shooting through the roof. White unemployment has gotten better. Black unemployment hasn't really improved, and black males are still in the basement. So I think that now,

1:54:42 you know it when you come back and you have this initiative years later it's almost like a someone not paying the rent for two years and then showing up with a check for fifty bucks and say why are you complaining i'm giving you money get off my back well you either there's a lot that happened before this transaction that needs to be taken into consideration That guy's smart and that's what and that's why we're saying same time This is being like when you do a deal. It's no more. I'll get you back. You know no same time We don't understand anything at this after the election or we'll see what we can do. What can you do? Okay, when can you do it? All right, then we know then we'll pay up in a vote and

1:55:23 But no more of this will discuss at the election because this is how we got burnt with the eight years of with Obama. And as Boyd said, these cities, these same cities, Philadelphia, Dade County, Miami-Dade County, Detroit, these people have been unemployed since Obama been in office. You really think they're gonna go out and vote? That's what? That's 12 years. And things may have gotten better under Trump, and you're gonna convince them to keep voting democratically? I mean, that's... that's... that's a hard sell. So if I stay jobless, why would I vote for Democrats? So that's a plus one. And if I actually got... things got better under these last four years, that's a plus two. And now you see why the numbers are down, and

1:56:23 as they said with the Axelrod clip. So it's a very, I can say, very interesting times. And then you have 45 Savage come along and makes his pitch. Look how much African American communities have suffered under Democratic control. To those I say the following. What do you have to lose by trying something new like Trump? Try Trump. What do you have to lose? I say it again, what do you have to lose? Look, what do you have to lose? You're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58% of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?

1:57:42 And at the end of four years, I guarantee you that I will get over 95% of the African American vote. I promise you. It's a promise, man. It's a promise. You got to look into that. Fact check, false. Yeah, big time. But for him to come out, no Republican ever said that. Well, how did that come across? Did that come across as pandering? Did it come across as shockingly interesting? Did it come across as, I mean, just what was it? Besides the try Trump, which I think is just, I mean, shit, I want to try Trump when I hear him say that. It's like, I'll try anything. I'll try some meth. Fine, I'll give it a shot. Well, it's for him to talk directly to the black voter as a Republican and lay it out, everything that Tavis Smiley has said,

1:58:46 Your school's sucked. Your kids are unemployed. Which, unemployment for youth is very important. Employment for youth is very important because that's where you learn work ethic. That's where you learn how to get up, go to job, show up on time, save money that you make. So when you start working at 14, 15, you have a certain understanding of life where you may start working at 20. So this, when we say 58% of your kids are unemployed. That's because their parents are taking the jobs meant for them. And fast food and the service industry and things of that nature where that wasn't the case when my dad was working. Now, have you seen except pre-RONA, was there indeed a remarkable or a marked improvement in black employment that you were hearing about? To be honest with you, I mean just me personally, I didn't know as many unemployed people

1:59:48 Now, I mean, my circles are a little different. Wait a minute, Moe, you're black. Don't you talk to all black people? Come on, man, give me the logo. When I have time, when I have time, I like to chat with all 30 million of them. Yeah, yeah. Get on the black Twitter, find out what's happening. Well, no, but I mean, surely you must have heard something. I mean, I hear it all the time. Black unemployment, you know, lower than it's ever been. Really? I don't know. I don't trust any employment numbers. The point I was going to make is this, kids my daughter age when Obama was in office, my nieces and nephews, hard to find a job. Now my daughter, once she started working in the Trump era,

2:00:33 because she became the age and within Trump's administration. I mean she could leave one job and go to the other job. Now the quality of job we can have that discussion because that unemployment number. I'm always a little leery when they talk that unemployment number because I was leery when I was under Obama so if I'm gonna be fair I have to be leery as well but I'll just say anecdotally It seems like there's mobility, not laterally. Right, so you can't leave your job to go to this job. Yeah, you're not a slave. So there's more unemployment, not necessarily better or better paying, but there was more unemployment to be had. And we saw that in Austin too, by the way. They couldn't hire people.

2:01:21 I mean it was yeah, it was crazy for a while there like holy crap. They can't even get people in there all they're all And they move around real quick to all kinds of jobs Yeah, which that's what I was saying before like my daughter now she's like, oh, I don't want to work there anymore. And but we saw this under Clinton as well. Sure. And that's the weird thing. Also, it seems like these years, minus the mass incarceration, it reminds you a lot of the Clinton years because you could leave quit a job, not have to worry about where you're going to work. I mean, you go quit on Friday and by Monday you have applications in, by the end of the next Friday you have another job. Now, upward mobility is one of the concerns and we have to discuss that at some point, but getting kids into jobs as soon as possible

2:02:14 trains them to have certain disciplines with their money. You learn how to mess your money up a lot earlier. It's like, man, I got paid Friday and I'm broke on Monday. Learning that at 15, 16 is a big head start than learning it at 20, 21. Yeah, because I learned, I mean, I've been working ever since I've been 15 years old and I learned really quick that, okay, you got to have more coming in and going out. But if you're a young adult when you learn that instead of a teenager, it makes a big issue with your development. So we have to look at these things not just in numbers but in the behavior that it teaches as well. Okay, so we heard Trump make his pitch and if Obama had done what he had needed to do, that would have fell on deaf ears, but it didn't. My name is Matthew Hawley and I am a Trump supporter.

2:03:13 They think because I'm black. that I have to vote Democrat. They think that they can come out and say, racism bad. You guys went through a whole bunch of stuff and I'm here to save you. Vote for me. They've been doing that for years now, but they never change anything. This election right here will be the first time I actually cast a ballot for president. When I first seen Trump, he was standing at the podium and he addressed black people directly. And he told us, you guys have been voting for Democrats forever now.

2:04:00 I may have asked you this, but did you ever talk to Mama Facts about this, about this particular statement? No, I'm that's a non-starter Okay, no because to a certain demographic and this is what the Democrats have miscalculated on they think that we're our parents and we're not yeah, I grew up under post Jim Crow Mm-hmm. I won't say post racial because it means things always gonna be racial but I

2:05:06 Post Jim Crow, so I don't have the same like whoo that oppression. I don't have it It's not internalized says the boomers for instance so for us we can be very fluid and We receive information in a different way. We have other avenues information to come in so for for older people They're not gonna change. I mean that I mean, I think that that's for older people and women They're not gonna change right away. How about uncle Richard man? Oh, well he I mean he he's hurt by Trump, but he doesn't hate him Yeah, I mean cuz some suck cuz some of the things Trump can say if I hear it through their ears I can hear the dog whistles But like with Kanye and Trump I understand what they're saying So I hear it

2:06:03 how they meant it, not how it could be construed or interpreted. Yes, exactly. So I mean that's one of the disadvantages, but I can't, that's why I have conversations and listen to boomer news to see how they take it and that's what kind of what What's his name? I keep thinking, Roland Martin. He makes Boomer News. Even though he's on YouTube now, he makes Boomer News because he's talking to that crowd. But it's like, they're already going to go vote. I mean, you can't stop my mom and dad from voting. Corona could be a person standing at the polls

2:06:46 You're not gonna stop them from voting because it's something they never had at one time. So I get it, and that's why we had to stop the generational war, because we had to be able to empathize with our parents and say, if I can never do that, I get it. Right? I understand. Wow. Okay, I get it. But sorry, mom, I can't follow you because I have a little bit more information and we have a plan. So Let's see, we had Trump. Okay. Yeah, so you heard this guy even say he was activated by being talked to. It's amazing if you talk to a person how far you can get with them. It's funny how that works. It's funny how that works. So now we have to give credit where credit is due. She's been missing from the show for a while, but this is a throwback clip 46.

2:07:38 And Karahana was spot on about the black male vote. Ah yes, my favorite. From SiriusXM. With Trump, 15% of black men actually pulled the lever for Trump. I think it's gonna be the same and it's that Kanye group. It's that group that just the guys just called up that they feel not powerful anymore that the world is shifting there's all of these different things going on we got they's and them's now I don't know what to do with that we got women out there talking about they don't need us we got this and this and that it resonates with them and I was thinking It still does. That portion's not going away. As a matter of fact, I think he might have galvanized more. I think he's gonna get a lot of black men voting for him. Nobody's talking to black men. 866-801-8255. Not a single one of these can. Everyone's over-indexing on black women. You're not gonna win against Trump just talking to black women. You're not gonna win against Trump

2:06:46 You're not gonna stop them from voting because it's something they never had at one time. So I get it, and that's why we had to stop the generational war, because we had to be able to empathize with our parents and say, if I can never do that, I get it. Right? I understand. Wow. Okay, I get it. But sorry, mom, I can't follow you because I have a little bit more information and we have a plan. So Let's see, we had Trump. Okay. Yeah, so you heard this guy even say he was activated by being talked to. It's amazing if you talk to a person how far you can get with them. It's funny how that works. It's funny how that works. So now we have to give credit where credit is due. She's been missing from the show for a while, but this is a throwback clip 46.

2:07:38 And Karahana was spot on about the black male vote. Ah yes, my favorite. From SiriusXM. With Trump, 15% of black men actually pulled the lever for Trump. I think it's gonna be the same and it's that Kanye group. It's that group that just the guys just called up that they feel not powerful anymore that the world is shifting there's all of these different things going on we got they's and them's now I don't know what to do with that we got women out there talking about they don't need us we got this and this and that it resonates with them and I was thinking It still does. That portion's not going away. As a matter of fact, I think he might have galvanized more. I think he's gonna get a lot of black men voting for him. Nobody's talking to black men. 866-801-8255. Not a single one of these can. Everyone's over-indexing on black women. You're not gonna win against Trump just talking to black women. You're not gonna win against Trump

2:08:32 not engaging and talking to black men. And I'm saying this because I don't hear anybody talking to black men. Period. And the only voice that actually resonates with black men is Donald Trump. No wait, Chelsea Handler's talking to 50 Cent. So she's talking to a black man, reminding him that he's black, but okay, she's talking to him. And what man Karen was spot all this stuff and one thing that Bims and Vays. Yeah, we don't care In a day just don't I think that was a stereotype that was a stereotype that you used to say all black men are homophobic or transphobic or something phobic that was a stereotype and

2:09:20 Well, she had to do that because if she made too much sense, she had to put it on us being small-minded. So it's like, oh, well, it's understandable they're small-minded and, you know, that's why they're doing what they're doing. Not the fact that we haven't had anybody talk to us. She did bring that point up, but the reason why we're engaging with these people is because we have some kind of inferiority complex or that kind of thing. No, it's that we understand how politics works. And I'm going to say this one thing. You asked me a long time ago, I think it was on show one or two, and this thing sticks in my head to this day. You said, why would black women do make the deal that they made with the DNC? And I said, ego. You remember that? Yeah, of course. Of course I remember that. And you reply, ego is what's going to

2:10:15 Potentially and if you listen to the polls, if everything's lining up like Miami Dade, because that's the only information we have coming out, but these. epicenters of blackness play out the same, then we're looking at another four years of Trump and it was their hubris. I was just about to say the word is hubris. I had just looked it up to put it in the show notes. It is totally hubris, 100%. Because if they were to say, you know what, let's get a black male vice president. Now you have to give us a

2:10:58 black female justice, you know, and make certain concessions for black women. But we have to... Karen telling you the brothers are pulling away from the herd. You're losing them. Nobody's talking to them. If somebody would have took her serious, and you're saying it's not being said on mainstream, but it is. She's on Sirius Radio. Now it's not ABC or NBC or CBS. I was going to ask you about that. What is the impact of the Karen Hunter show? I mean, they don't release ratings, so there's no way to look it up. Do you think she has a solid foothold in

2:11:36 In black America who's listening to serious? Well boomer I mean a boomer crowd she does But she's she's start. I didn't start picking up on her until she started being on YouTube and an algorithm Start going her videos and base it off the topic. I keep forgetting that I keep forgetting that I'm thinking like who the hell's listening to Sirius XM really doesn't know Okay, that's thank you that makes that makes it YouTube is the battleground, bro. I mean, this is where the information war is happening because it's, okay, let me look up this topic and then they give me my suggestions. Okay, Karen Hunter, blah, blah, blah, Boyce Watkins, all these different people. Then you get your MSNBC, your Democrat, CNN, those kind of things. So this is where it's happening, but nobody went and talked to Karen.

2:12:29 Everybody talks to Karen because we heard all the tastemakers and consultants come on her platform. But none of them took the information that she was saying back. They should have eaten, but hubris. It's like, no, we're going to get a black woman now. It's like, okay. And then Kamala, I told them if they would have listened to me and I had to pat myself on the back, I know I don't do this often, but I have to. They should have ran Stacey Abrams. She has the look of a black woman. Yes. It would have told it would have gave you Georgia, you know, but I would say again, Obama's pick Kamala Harris, right?

2:13:19 Yeah, I think box the thing. Yeah, they did. Well, there was there's something about Stacey Abrams that somehow was very polarizing to the Democratic Party. I'm not quite sure what it was exactly, but there are some things that enough enough operatives or whoever's in charge just did not like about her. Well, we know why they didn't run her because Whoever the vice president was is gonna be president. We know this. So it's like she comes from the Council of Foreign Relations, she comes from the Bloomberg camp. I think Joe Biden was the placeholder for a third Obama term and he was gonna run that play through Kamala Harris. But if it's about winning, you had to run Stacey Abrams. Just off of optics.

2:14:12 You don't have the, she's not an African American conversation or she's not Ados conversation. You don't have the, it's something, well she has these folks. She has the look. Let's just be honest about it. She has the look. She has the short natural hair. She's a little bit, you're saying plus size. Curvy. She had it all before. Curvy as we say. Yes, yes. Voluptuous. Where's BDW? No, I'm saying because that would have been like, she's one of our, you know, Stacy, not Kamala. It's Stacy. You know Stacy from the block, you know, that kind of thing. So they took Obama's advice. They took the non-ADOS man's advice and look what they wound up with. They're lost. They're not thinking.

2:15:05 And the hubris to say, okay, we're going to give them two non-African Americans or two non-AIDAS back to back. How do you like that? You don't think that's... No, they weren't listening. They wouldn't read the comments. Go to YouTube and read the comments. You'll see. But Karen made this call a long way off. And finally, Sholomane had to admit to Don Lemon that it was true. I saw this. This was a great clip. Well, I think, you know, to even answer your question more deeply, I think, you know, when it comes to those black people you see who may be, you know, showing support for Trump, I just think, you know, it's because Trump is actually talking to young black male voters. He's directing ads towards them. They are a group that, you know, never get courted. I mean,

2:15:52 Black people don't get caught either as a whole, but that old democratic regime speaks to old black men and they think everyone else in the black community, the black family is just supposed to fall in line. They know black women are going to show up regardless. And like I said, they speak to older black men and they think the rest of us all speak the same language. So Trump is targeting young black males and from one marketing, it works. Poor old Don, man. That shocked him. What? That's what we've been saying the whole time. You don't have a black vote. And it's crazy that they remember they said, oh, well, the black people don't include black women. With the black vote, you made the miscalculation that it was inclusive of black men and it wasn't.

2:16:39 It doesn't include us. I thought it was because nobody was talking to us. I thought it was a pretty big deal that Charlemagne said that. I mean, he analyzed it, but he also said it's working. I thought that was a big deal. I caught it a long time ago. Charlemagne is a gun for hire. Yeah. If you listen to what he said, he never endorsed Biden. He endorsed Kamala. Big difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, true. He's been walking this tightrope and I know why because they have the, they have the capsule cannon cocked and ready. Ain't that Charlamagne anytime he steps too far out of line with his... Yes, anytime he steps out of too far off the path, they have him lined up with his capsule cannon. Yeah.

2:17:43 So if only they would listen to us, they would have known this a long time ago. But this is what we do at the Mo Facts Show and I think this would be a great time to take a pause and I guess thank some people. 53 episodes long or will be 53 episodes after we finish this one and it's been doing the work. Is that reading white fragility? No! Doing the work is what Malcolm X proposed a long time ago. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it.

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2:33:46 What difference does the length of the document have to do with the content? Seems they have forgotten that brevity is the soul of wit. A very astute observation, Stephen. I completely agree. And it comes back in many ways. Where I noticed it the most is President Trump's health care plans, which are disparate. He has executive orders, he's got certain things to keep pharmaceutical costs down. And it's really one or two pages that these things are, but you're right. It seems like in today's modern politics, and it's not even really a left or right thing, it's you gotta have 2,000 pages at least so we can say, oh my god, it's 2,000 pages. And then you just say, well, we gotta pass it so you can see what's in it. Wasn't that Nancy Pelosi? Yeah, you gotta pass it to see what's in it.

2:34:44 It's another political trick. Yeah, I wonder if I have that clip somewhere. See, pass it. I thought I had that at some point. That was for the Affordable Care. Yeah, that is Obamacare. I don't have it on hand, but that's exactly what Nancy Pelosi said at one point. And I actually read as much as I could of it. It's a banking document. The big takeaway Yeah, Americans paid higher premiums, but the federal government had what they called a payment corridor of tens to sometimes hundreds of billions of dollars to compensate the insurance companies. So that's what's hidden in all those pages. I like two or three pages.

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2:37:43 This was Saturday Night Live, man. This was something else. I think I texted you about this. It was funny. I see this like, bro, they're strolling on SNL to the pole. I mean, didn't we just talk about this on the previous episode? It's like, how crazy is that? All right, so I found it odd in a way. I looked at that and I'm like, wow, it's not even funny. I'm pretty sure most of the SNL audience doesn't even get it.

2:38:29 Doesn't he even see the irony? No, they don't know the origin. It's from Old Whispers song. I mean not song but that was the motivation for it. So that's why I found it funny. I'm like, wow, they actually were strolling. But notice they didn't go the boule route with the strolling with the poles. What do you mean? They didn't do the fraternity. Oh no, they didn't do the whole thing. Yeah, that's true. No, right, right. They were cognizant of not touching that hot button. Don't go too far. Yeah, exactly. Take it only so far guys. All right, so did we wrap? Did we stroll out of it? Yeah, we strolled out. Just want to let everybody know one more time.

2:39:07 Support us for the next show for episode 54. MoFacts.com, direct their donation page. MoFundMe.com, M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. Alrighty, so we're getting back on Karen Hunter and this is from the blowback that happened that I mentioned on the last show of hashtag Blame Black Men on Twitter. She covers the topic on her show. Also, I want to talk about black men today. Hi, Larrie. I love black. I'm married to a lovely one. But my favorite topic, hold on some of my best friend of black men, friends, black. Jamel Hill tweeted something out. And I think it's time for us to have a conversation. We've been I've been nibbling around the edges of this conversation. We're gonna have it today. So Jamel Hill.

2:39:58 She said she tweeted this yesterday. I've increasingly found that black men Oh, excuse me. I've increasingly found that many black men just want better access to patriarchy They don't actually want it dismantled and when I saw that Twitter trending and she was trending I was I said to myself is this helpful? That's the first thing I said. Why why why why why and then that started a blame black men Hashtag. Yeah now as we discussed I actually had to look for you because my Twitter is racist and it wouldn't give me any any black Twitter I just the algos. I'm suppressed. Yes not just you but all the blame black man hashtag was suppressed.

2:40:49 But it was very interesting. I love the memes about the Titanic. Hashtag blame black men. And this did take off. This was a cool thing to see happen. And it was natural because it was a response from a tweet made by Jemele Hill who was known most famously for her work on ESPN and her beef with Donald Trump. But known to the black man circle for her white men, I mean black men are the white people are black people. So that's what she's most famously known for. So she's been on the radar of

2:41:32 Activated black men for a long time and when she came out with this it was just it spread like wildfire and like I said, it was a moment of purging for me honestly, I mean cuz I stayed up to I was up late. I may be later than that. I would cuz it was Blame us for this too. And why I had it blame us for this What was what was her tweet blaming black men for specifically? No, she said that we don't want to destroy patriarchy. We want more of it. Right. We have access to whatever. Hello. That's what we're saying. Yeah, we want a male driven

2:42:18 society and that's I would think to be normal in modern times that it's not like a crazy thing to say but that only goes to prove that currently we live in a matriarchy in black society. I was talking to a friend of mine in Amsterdam in the Netherlands today And we were talking about how things have changed and what Trump brought. And you and I have discussed this when it comes to black men. But for all men, I think, in America, we were on, we were very, you know, of course with Me Too, and of course there's problems with men, there's problems with women too. You know, people can be shitty, that's just what it is. But we were in a severe state of feminization, pussification is what some would call it.

2:43:06 and really afraid to be, to show masculine traits. I mean it was very suppressed. And when Trump- And you don't work in court, I mean sorry for cutting you off, but you, because I want to get- To that point. The fact that you don't work in corporate America, you don't realize how bad it was. Right. Right. It's a very good point. It was that bad. You were walking out, head at the floor like, I don't want to look at anybody too long, you know? Right. Kind of like, what, you outballing me, boy? Yeah. Kind of like one of those things, like, I don't want to look at her too fast, look away too fast. I'm sorry. No, no, it's absolutely true.

2:43:48 And I believe in the male-female model, you know, when a man and a woman are in a unit and they're equal and they go through life. I think it's one of the most beautiful things. That's just who I am. Not everybody agrees, but I think somehow that yin and yang works really well. And in the public media, it was no longer acceptable, really. And then Trump came along and gave license to be more masculine. And you know, it is true that people take examples from figures. For instance, some sexual acts became not really sex under Bill Clinton. It was, you know, that was not really sexual relations, which I think is to this day true. It's seen as different.

2:44:36 from actual sexual relations. I'm using his words, not mine. And Trump gave license to say, hey, no, I'm making a statement right here and this is how I feel about it and maybe we should reconsider some of these things. And I've got a voice and by the way there are some things that men are really good at and we should be doing them. Trump said, hey fellas, you missing these? Yes, you see these cojones? Exactly. But it's true, I don't think

2:45:12 people realize how far we were going on the wrong path just from my perspective. Now, I will say this, the beautiful thing about a patriarchy is there is a need, not a want, not a like, not a need for women. And the beautiful thing about that is everything we get wrong as the father, she corrects in her son. So really she's dictating what the next generation is going to be. It's like, okay, Your father sucked this way. Like I said, the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. So it's that. You're guiding the next generation or the next, you know, the next Rev to be better than the previous. And I think we have come so far. I mean as a society just to do away with men. To be honest, it wasn't doing away with patriarch. It was like we're going to subjugate men. And that was the like where people say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're going too far too fast. So I just want to say that and black men were at the very

2:46:17 tip of the spear as far as... I'm sorry to interrupt. But also the locker room talk, the Billy Bush bus tape for Trump, how that was turned into the pussy hat rallies, that was really a big part of it and that was the push that was the tipping point I think that went too far. Of course it was horrific and scandalous, etc. And I think everybody knew, every adult said, well, you know, gee, you know, guys talk that way, women have their way of talking, you know, this is, it was kind of embarrassing. And somehow Trump got through that. And it, I mean, it was,

2:47:07 That's where I think that's where the the movement the anti man and to be honest anti white man I think we're the the the patriarchy is seen as an old white men problem, but don't worry you get some of that too That's when it was pushed to focus. We had already been there. You guys were just coming to join us. It's like, oh, no, they're already. Yeah, right. You built the bridge to where we had to go. We were holding the door. We were like, holding the door. Come on in, white men. Yeah. Yeah, thanks. Here we are. I'm glad you said that because something just sparked in my head. And the most dangerous thing, and we can jump right to the next clip, but I make this point.

2:47:48 the most dangerous thing for black men was to all victims are to be believed. Because what that does is there's this understanding that we get accused for a lot of things that we don't do, especially if it's interracially and it goes left and then the woman can crack call anything. And then you say, she's to be believed. Now I believe all women should be heard. I believe that. I mean, I have no problem with that. I have three daughters and a wife and a mother, you know, some of my best friends are women. So I just say that to say that when you say it needs to be believed, that's a very dangerous slope, especially for the demographic of black men.

2:47:07 That's where I think that's where the the movement the anti man and to be honest anti white man I think we're the the the patriarchy is seen as an old white men problem, but don't worry you get some of that too That's when it was pushed to focus. We had already been there. You guys were just coming to join us. It's like, oh, no, they're already. Yeah, right. You built the bridge to where we had to go. We were holding the door. We were like, holding the door. Come on in, white men. Yeah. Yeah, thanks. Here we are. I'm glad you said that because something just sparked in my head. And the most dangerous thing, and we can jump right to the next clip, but I make this point.

2:47:48 the most dangerous thing for black men was to all victims are to be believed. Because what that does is there's this understanding that we get accused for a lot of things that we don't do, especially if it's interracially and it goes left and then the woman can crack call anything. And then you say, she's to be believed. Now I believe all women should be heard. I believe that. I mean, I have no problem with that. I have three daughters and a wife and a mother, you know, some of my best friends are women. So I just say that to say that when you say it needs to be believed, that's a very dangerous slope, especially for the demographic of black men.

2:48:38 And I think that's where it was like, nah, we've jumped the shark here. Yeah, but that's also, that went away when it was about Joe Biden. Then all women were not to be believed. So that... So does smoking crack and, you know, all these other things that were just so bad until, you know, a candidate's family does it. And what I'm not even going to go down that rabbit hole, I'm just saying, but these things are not lost on us. It's like, honey, you were throwing us in jail for crack and now it's... allegedly, allegedly, you know, someone in your family is partaking in the rock and it's no big deal. Yeah, now it's just, oh, poor, poor son. Yeah, exactly. Black men too. But as I was processing it, I said that this narrative

2:49:25 Bolstered by the ice cubes 50-cent P Diddy conversations has and and there have been several Women I'm not you know gonna get into those names saying these things about black men in particular I'm saying to myself. Why is this happening? Why are you doing this? Why now why and you know, why was it necessary to So apparently she was having some conversations with somebody and then went to the Twitter sphere And I'm saying at some point we're gonna have to have Twitter discipline all things are permissible All things are not beneficial. This was not beneficial. And here's what it does because let me just be 100% clear Black men are important Black women are important

2:50:15 All black people report, you know, like it's, it's silly for us to have these conflicts and they're not real. So let me just give you the real, here's the real, the real deal is there's no war between black men and black women. There seems to be on social media, uh, very, very small, my new, very loud faction on both sides doing this thing now. Is it beneficial? No, it's not. As a matter of fact, it is detrimental to the things that we want to get done. Really, this is where she went wrong. Yeah, there is a war. Yes. I talked to men updating that are in the dating market and man, the stories I hear just being married, there's certain conversations that can't even be brought up because it's so ingrained

2:51:14 It's like, oh no, no, no, no, you can't talk about that. But this war is real now, what I would say. It's real, but can it be resolved? Yes, but We don't want the same thing. That's what is causing the war. Black men, for the most part, black men and black women are being pulled, and I want to make this clear, are being pulled in two different directions. Do they want the same outcome? Yes, but the method is what they're not aligning on. And for her to miss that point, I don't know if she was being genuine or not with that take.

2:51:58 Hard to say, but it also seemed kind of a little tone deaf. Did you really know what's going on in the world? Yeah, I mean, because we're at the point where men and women don't even want to talk to each other. I mean, this election has been very polarizing and draining, to say the least, because it can inflame certain notions. just from bringing up a conversation. Oh, and that's worldwide perhaps, but certainly countrywide. There's all kinds of issues that, well, people have problems talking to each other in general, I would say, about issues, Mo, and the media is very good at driving wedges between all kinds of relationships because it behooves them. And we have an app for everything, so I mean that makes it even easier not to deal with men or women, right? Yeah, exactly.

2:52:55 and I mean everything. But um, I guess we can jump into part three. Everybody's blaming black men for Trump, right? I'm gonna give you the actual numbers. Here are the numbers. Black men with college degrees, 78% of black men with college degrees voted for Hillary Clinton. Hillary R Clinton, 78%. Larry, I'm not good at math. Is that like the vast majority of black men? With college degrees? Overwhelming and vast majority. All right. Oh, black men with no college degrees. 82% of black men without college degrees voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton. 11% voted for Trump. 16% of black men with college degrees, which I think is interesting.

2:53:40 That's a whole other conversation that we should have at some point too, but they're different conversations. You know, it's not all, and we doing this lumping in like all black men. No, no, matter of fact, 78% with degrees voted for Hillary, 82% without degrees voted for Hillary. Now, in juxtaposition of black women, 91% of black women, 91% of black women with college degrees, 6% of those same black women voted for Trump. So let's just, I don't know who y'all are, you know, and I want to shame you, woman with a college degree, 6% of you voted for Donald Trump, but yes, it's your right. You know, it's your right. We are free people. We're free to do dumb things. I love people who do that.

2:54:27 It's like, what's wrong with you? You're free to do whatever you want, but what's wrong with you? You're clearly not right in the head. And you're dumb. You're free to do dumb things, but she just illustrated that it's the, and I hate using this word, the educated, formally educated people, the college degree holders that are voting more likely for Trump Then non, it's the inverse then on the white side, right? They say that. kind of educated is more towards Biden on the white side and without degrees or more for Trump. So it's this opposite thing going on, but they always want to call you dumb, stupid, uninformed, you don't understand, it's complex. But why is it the formally educated and not, I don't like that degree thing in the first place. Well, Mo, you have a degree, I don't.

2:55:27 I dropped out of college, you know, so I listened to that and like, really? All right, I'll take you on any day. Like, come on. Exactly. And I went to school with a lot of people that I talk to them now, it's like, you don't get it. You know, so... No, but... Yeah. Well, look at school, you know, what is school? School is a shulah. It's a place for you to be educated. We make sure you have all the right information. And the lucky thing for me, just inside baseball on Mo, I went to class, not college. Right. I didn't stay on campus. I should have went to class. I didn't get indoctrinated with all the fraternities, sororities. I'm surprised the boulé didn't come for you. They should have come for you. They could have gotten you. They did. Well, they tried when you were young, when you were a youth rider. That's when they tried to get you. No, no, they tried to get me at college too. Oh yeah?

2:56:24 But I was, I'm gonna say this and I might, hold on, I might get counseled for this one. But I was like, if you're gonna beat me for six weeks and change my name, that sounds too much like slavery to me. I digress on that. That's exactly, uh-huh, yeah, exactly. Well, moving on, we're going to go back to 52 and the shaming, since she brought up shaming, and we listened to Rosenberg try to shame Ice Cube for having an open mind. Cube, I would say this is probably the part where people get the most concerned, is that for many people, we feel that the rhetoric

2:57:04 and the decisions that have been made by the Trump administration over the last four years, put them in a category of alignment with racism and white supremacy that is so in a different world that, out of that conversation of we know there's white supremacy on both sides, feels like a bit of a cop-out in the sense that We know this Trump administration. We know exactly how is it? How's the truth a cop-out? I mean, it's the truth and if you can show me that that's not the truth Let me know but

2:57:40 It's not a cop-out. It's the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. And if we are blind to that, we'll continue to find ourselves in it. But you don't think it's full-sequence? Everybody, every person has to make their own decision when they walk in that booth. You know, Ice Cube can't make it for him. Hot 97 can't make it for him or anybody else. Everybody got to make their own decision and they got to take all the information that they have gathered, the true facts, and then make that decision. And so I'm the one who's not telling you where to vote. So people shouldn't be skeptical of what I'm saying because I'm not telling you where to vote.

2:58:23 Well that was wrong. You've got to tell people exactly where to vote. And it's Peter Rosenberg, he's a very interesting character because when Lil Wayne came out and endorsed Trump, I'm going to eviscerate Lil Wayne and I had to come at him on Twitter. I was busy on Twitter the last couple weeks, I don't know why. I mean I don't even do social media but I'm just going to say this. I'm more of a spectator just to read what the currents are, what's going on. But when I saw eviscerated and I understand what that word means, it means to disembowel. And that's something they used to do when they lynched people. And it was very lynch mobbish of him to, oh, I got to go eviscerate Lil Wayne on live. And I was like, hold on, that's the same terminology

2:59:22 verbatim disembowel they would hang you and then disembowel you when they lynched you. So that terminology and imagery didn't sit well with me and I'll let him know about it. He gets his kicks off of tearing down black men who think freely, but it's people of his lineage that are protesting for Trump outside in Brooklyn. Pull his guts out. Yeah. Him being a Jewish man, it's people Brooklyn that are being oppressed by Corona and they're protesting for Trump and you hear him say nothing. Start with him, like I said, start with your own first. Let us clean our house and you clean yours. Thank you for giving us the definition of eviscerate. Sometimes I wonder how people use... he may not even really know what the term means.

3:00:20 Well, the fact that I know, it just didn't sit well with me. Because it's like, well, I'm going to tear him open. But why? Why? I only said that to say this. The shaming, this is their tactic. You heard Karen Hunter use it. You heard him try to do it Ice Cube. And then the biggest shamer of all, Chelsea the Handler. Go. -"You heard about my ex-boyfriend, right? 50 Cent and his support of Donald Trump." -"Yeah, what's going on between you? I saw your tweets, and I go, wait, what's happening? Because you said he was your favorite ex-boyfriend, and then he --" What is he doing? Supporting Trump?

3:01:03 He says he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes, which by the way is in a plan of Joe Biden's. That's a lie. So he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes because he doesn't want to go from being 50 cents to 20 cents. And I had to remind him that he was a black person. So he can't vote for Donald Trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of people who may listen to him because he's worried about his own personal pocketbook. So I haven't heard back from him yet, but I am willing to. You know seal the deal in more ways than one if he changes his mind and publicly denounces Donald Trump I might be willing to go for another spin if you know what I'm talking about This this was so amazing not just in what she said

3:01:51 Not just in what she said, because there's so much in there. First of all, you're a black man. Not even that. Black person, which I'll just take that as an insult as well. Because if anyone's a black man, it's 50 Cent. He's a black man. He also never said he was endorsing Trump. He said, I don't want any of this. I don't want this. It was a good, it was a funny joke. And then what does she say at the end? Oh yeah. And then she said, and by the way, I'm willing to seal the deal. It's like, you know, that's the Democratic Party right there in a nutshell. Here's a little shiny trinket. You can get some of this.

3:02:31 Want a little bit of this? Just do what he's doing, do what he say. Remember who you are. It's the whole thing was and she got, I mean, sure there was a 24 hours of bull boy, but really she should never be allowed to appear on the scene anymore by today's standards, except it was. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, it's smack. The what Biden said, you're not black. If you don't vote for me, it's this death. This is this liberal mindset. that you were the gatekeepers of blackness. We set the parameters and how you align to that is if you're included or not into black. And for her to offer sex, this goes to, oh, how can a black man turn down a white woman? Right. That's exactly what it was. You know what though?

3:03:25 Most of these Boulay sisters said nothing to her. Yeah, disappointing. But not any other time they'll say any other time they'll say all black men are running after white women and blah blah blah that's why we can't find a good man and she comes out and use her sexuality and really what she did was shamed him not in a sense of about sex that's not what it was about it was like you want to make money in Hollywood still Right. Yeah, we'll shut you down the same way they did snoop with the with the gail king thing Yeah, he had to come back with hat in hand with the apology is these people in Hollywood They own these people

3:04:08 And I hate to use that word, but it's not Curtis Jackson, but 50 Cent. Not Calvin Broadus, but Snoop Dogg. These personas, they own them. And they can cancel them anytime they want to. And that's what she was reminding him. Now you be a good little boy and go vote like you supposed to, black man. And I might just throw some sugar on top of it for you. Can I can I can I guess what I heard can I shoot her a cancel cannon for a second, please? She needs to go man. She needs to go well We have her on the view and she offered some some more besides this summer her adapt Chelsea you know last week. Oh, I'm sorry 35 or 34. Oh excuse me 34. I'm I know no problem

3:05:02 Chelsea, you know last week 50 Cent tweeted that he was voting for Trump because he discovered he would have to pay more taxes under a Biden... I don't think he said that. Did he say he was voting for Trump? I don't think he ever said that. I think he did. He says... I think he said the tweet was something like... I'm gonna have to go with Trump. I don't like Trump, but I'm gonna have to go with him or something like that. I mean, it was alluding. I mean, I'm not gonna call on this because he made the suggestion that he would go. Yeah, it wasn't a real endorsement of Trump by any means. All right. Because he discovered he would have to pay more taxes under a Biden administration. And you called him out and said he was now your, excuse me,

3:05:49 least favorite ex-boyfriend. And I don't know where I've been because I didn't even realize that you had dated, but your back and forth with him on Twitter went really viral and he seems to have backtracked on his support for Trump now. Have you spoken to him about this? Because it really made a lot of news. Yes, and I understand. He called me the other night, two nights ago. We spoke for about a half an hour and I texted him, I DMed him and I said, can you please call me about this? I don't want this to be public. I really want to know if you're serious about supporting Trump.

3:06:26 you know he's and so he called me and he wasn't serious he was just screwing around on his twitter he is supporting Joe Biden he made that very clear to me and he said that I was able to tell you girls and tell any other press I did that he is supporting Joe Biden so and then we talked and you know had a cute little conversation I did promise you know to pay his taxes and then I found out it's illegal to pay somebody to vote for your candidate. Yes it is. So I offered him another form of payment and we'll see if he takes me up on it, but I don't have to pay him. He's already a Biden supporter. Wow. She offered to pay his taxes. So he wouldn't influence a swath. Her words, a swath of influential people. Swath. If that ain't suppression.

3:07:24 And then the Sunny no mention of the black comment right now. She's all about race race race race race race race all the time Softball question no man, and she knew why we went viral because what she said she said you're not black If you don't vote, you're saying if you don't vote for Joe Biden in so many words. She had to remind him and then she speaks for him. He said that I could tell everybody. 50 Cent has no problem with saying anything to anybody ever in life. And now all of a sudden he needs Chelsea the Handler to speak for him. Come on, come on. Chelsea the Handler.

3:08:06 But thank God, thank God we had one Miss Candace Owens. Yes. That came to the defense of 50 Cent even if he didn't know he needed it or not. Chelsea Handler just said, and I quote, she went on to Jimmy Fallon a couple of nights ago, presumably last night, and she said, I quote, I had to remind him that he is a black man, so he can't vote for Donald Trump. If you are watching this video and you do not understand how racist that sentence is, you have to remind him that he is a black man, so he can't vote for Donald Trump. How do you look at a black person and tell them what they can or cannot do because of the color of their skin and not realize that you are the racist?

3:07:24 And then the Sunny no mention of the black comment right now. She's all about race race race race race race race all the time Softball question no man, and she knew why we went viral because what she said she said you're not black If you don't vote, you're saying if you don't vote for Joe Biden in so many words. She had to remind him and then she speaks for him. He said that I could tell everybody. 50 Cent has no problem with saying anything to anybody ever in life. And now all of a sudden he needs Chelsea the Handler to speak for him. Come on, come on. Chelsea the Handler.

3:08:06 But thank God, thank God we had one Miss Candace Owens. Yes. That came to the defense of 50 Cent even if he didn't know he needed it or not. Chelsea Handler just said, and I quote, she went on to Jimmy Fallon a couple of nights ago, presumably last night, and she said, I quote, I had to remind him that he is a black man, so he can't vote for Donald Trump. If you are watching this video and you do not understand how racist that sentence is, you have to remind him that he is a black man, so he can't vote for Donald Trump. How do you look at a black person and tell them what they can or cannot do because of the color of their skin and not realize that you are the racist?

3:08:58 I'm asking a serious question, and I'm asking this opening this up to liberals, opening up to people that don't like me, don't follow my work, don't understand what it is we are talking about as black conservatives. How can you hear a sentence where you say to a black person, as a white person, that you are not allowed to do this because you're black, and not realize that you are speaking like a segregationist, like a slave plantation owner, like a racist, like the racist that we have studied and learned about in school. I know. It's fascinating how the how the mind works. People just, what? No, that's fine. It's all good. It's fine. Whatever.

3:09:40 Yeah, and we're talking about the same people on Twitter that would drag a deal for having some kind of hair style. But Chelsea Handler, all she could say this and no everybody was quiet that lets you know she whoever she is or whoever's behind her. has can pull major strings in Hollywood. I am so surprised by this because I have no knowledge of her. I mean, I look at this situation and go, how does she get that clout? Where is it from? What is it? I mean, maybe it's the only thing I can come up with is because she actually has had a relationship with a black man. So she has some kind of power over him. She has no

3:10:23 professional power that I can tell. She has no financial power that I can tell. It literally must be that she has had an intimate relation, I guess a boyfriend-girlfriend relation, with at least one black man, which most of these people can't say. It has to be something like that. I think that it's Hollywood was sending 50 cents the message and she was the messenger of like I said with Snoop Dogg we covered that in one of the shows where he went off on uh Gayle King right and then the very next episode we had to carry cover him coming back I'm sorry scratching back I'm sorry I didn't yeah because they know they would now he's all over corona commercials and everything it meant bro I'm trying to tell you they will can't they will get you up out of there um but

3:11:12 Candace said that she sounds like a slave owner. Well, let's go talk to our resident slave owner and master from episode 38. What has tended to make you more liberal? The realization that the Negro is a human being like anyone else. Mr. Hastie, what did you think we were before you began to think of us as human beings? Well, in a way, we thought of you almost as a very superior pet of something or rather someone.

3:11:51 We had to take care of them because we had to do so much of their thinking for them. We had to do almost everything for them except living their own own lives. Anything outside, we had to do for them. Wow man, that's Chelsea the Handler in a nutshell. In a nutshell. All day. I had to remind him like he was walking around one day. It's like oh, thank you Chelsea. I forgot I was a black man. Thank you for calling me and reminding me. It's like I know probably 50 you know how to do the thinking for you. You superior pet you. Woo! Yeah, we'll take care of ya. That is amazing. Uh-huh. But moving on and I think the biggest

3:12:38 endorsement that Donald Trump was able to garner was one from Lil Wayne and Mart Lamont Hill has something to say about it. Just when I think things can't get any dumber, Lil Wayne sends out a tweet yesterday. Apparently he met with President Donald Trump and decided that real G's don't move in silence like lasagna. Instead he wanted to speak out. And he tweets, just had a great meeting with real Donald Trump POTUS. Besides what he's done so far with criminal reform, the platinum plan is going to give the community real ownership. He listened to what we had to say today and assured he will and can get it done. We are days before one of the most important elections in American history, maybe in world history.

3:13:26 and Lil Wayne decides to use his voice politically for the first time to defend, to promote, to support Donald Trump, someone who has been an enemy to his community, an enemy to what we think he would value, an enemy to everybody who's vulnerable in this country. It's bad enough that he's selling out, but from what I can see, he's selling out for free. Which is even more disrespectful. It's always bad to be a sellout, it's always a moral atrocity, but damn Wayne, you doing this for nothing. Standing next to the president with your thumb up looking like a hostage while the rest of us suffer as a consequence of your choice. Yes, because as you know, Mark Lamont Hill will only do it if he gets paid, obviously. That's why you say, you're ruining the market, Wayne! Yes, that's exactly what I'm hearing. You're the fool, you're not getting paid for it, this is no good!

3:14:16 Wow. Wow. I will say this, that picture with Lil Wayne with the thumb up, that was a bad look. I mean, not the fact that he took a picture with Trump, but the thumbs up thing, I was like, eh. But I get it. I mean, he went and talked to him, and Lil Wayne's not my ideal endorsement that made me like, wow. But I will say this, Little Wayne birth a lot of what we know about modern hip-hop the face tax the dreads the I mean like heat to certain people. I think I'm a little older a little I remember him like I was when he first came out. I was a teenager but

3:14:58 when he actually became one of the best rappers alive. That generation, the skinny jeans, a lot of the stuff you see that represents hip-hop now, represents hip-hop now is from Lil Wayne. So he is very influential to a certain demographic. Maybe not my age, but yeah, it's a problem. When they got Lil, I was shocked. I was like, what? Lil Wayne? I didn't even believe it. I was like, Lil Wayne. Is he cancellable? No, no, no. I don't think so either. I don't. But I think he was so marginalized musically that I mean, it's not like you're going to see his sales go down because he was I mean, his rapper passes prom. But the influence and what he contributes to hip hop, you can't I mean, like I said, a face tax dress, skinny jeans, skateboarding. Yeah. He brought a lot of this into the modern hip hop.

3:15:58 So, but Mark Lamont Hill, he was hot about that like three days, three days ago. And here comes Lil Wayne. So let's listen to Mark finish ranting about Lil Wayne. More, more, more Mark Lamont Hill please, more of that. You could say, well, Lil Wayne might just believe what he believes and he has a right to free speech, he has a right to say what he thinks about the election. True. Except Lil Wayne doesn't do that. In fact, not too long ago, a woman journalist asked Lil Wayne what he thought about Black Lives Matter. I am a young, black, rich b****. If that don't let you know that America understand black matters these days, I don't know what it is. Don't come at me with that dumb ****, man. My life matter, especially to my ****. He ended our interview angrily. If you're not a politician and you just want to talk about rap, you just want to talk about music, you just want to talk about clothes, you want to talk about whatever you want to talk about except for politics, then why use this moment right now to do this? And if you're going to do it, why do it for Donald Trump?

3:16:57 But it's not just Wayne. My dear brother Ice Cube stood next to Donald Trump. I understand that he has a plan for black America and he's not endorsing Donald Trump. Ice Cube did not endorse Donald Trump, but Ice Cube is still standing next to Donald Trump in a way that makes him seem like he is a reasonable or viable option to advance the black agenda. 50 Cent stood up and said that he's gonna vote for Trump. because he doesn't want to pay high taxes. Now, whether he was serious or not, I can't say for sure, but the fact that he said it legitimized what many people have to say. And this is what's so disturbing. Brothers, we are the lowest common denominator right now. We are the weakest link right now. Not all black men, I'm not saying that. I'm talking about those people in public who are standing up and standing next to Donald Trump.

3:17:43 We are the lowest common denominator. Way to talk yourself down, M.H.L. M.L.H. If you don't think like them, if you don't share their liberal mindset, they want to get rid of you. But I find that interesting because not too long ago, and Mark Lamont Hill was canceled. Oh, yeah, they redeemed him off the scrapheap to come talk to black men But let's listen to him getting canceled last week a CNN contributor a commentator the network had on its payroll delivered a speech at the United Nations in support of Palestinian self-determination and equal rights less than 24 hours later CNN was done with Mark Lamont Hill

3:18:31 When you boil it down, he was fired for using the following six words, from the river to the sea. That was deemed anti-Semitic. Hill's dismissal came on the heels of a seemingly coordinated attack by pro-Israel groups that have come to have a large say over what constitutes acceptable discourse on Palestine in the U.S. by willfully conflating legitimate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism and then convincing news outlets to do the same. It wasn't that long ago that CNN adopted the slogan, Facts First. When it comes to Israel though, it's much more complicated than that. Some facts are clearly more inconvenient than others.

3:19:09 Yeah, I remember this. That was weird. Ain't that funny? He was canceled by a group of people that determines what's acceptable discourse. But then he turned around and does it to little Wayne and try to get him canceled because of what he deems what acceptable discourse is. It's amazing. And then they look, they let him come back. They say, Mark, you want in? He's like, yes, yes, yes. Fix it, Mark, fix it. And then he goes out there and talks down a little, oh, how stupid he could be. And then he says Ice Cube was standing next to Donald Trump, which if you want to say figuratively, no, not really. But he meant it to put the imagery in your mind the same way with Lil Wayne. And that's why he kind of weasels his way back out of it. But he left the

3:19:59 No, the little, the thought in your head of a picture with Ice Cube with his thumb up standing beside Donald Trump. Right. So it's amazing and another one, counsel for what? You know, six words, what got him up out of here. That's crazy. That's crazy. From the river to the sea. Got him done. It was over for Mark. You haven't seen Mark on anything except for Dave Chott. Mark was like, I'll get Lil Wayne. Let me get him. Let me get him. Let me get back, coach. Right. Wow. Well, that pretty much wraps up. He's off the Christmas list, this guy. I'm not sending him any favors. Aw, man. Mark is... Jeez.

3:20:43 And then the key tail is brothers. Brothers. Brothers. Brothers. Brothers. Listen to me, brothers. Sure. Mm-hmm. My mama don't know you. Um... Brothers. But just when you thought you couldn't hear anything crazier than that... Yeah. Oh, Maxine. I love me some Maxine Waters in the morning. They think somehow if they are going to support Trump that they're going to realize some big sums of money that's going to come to them through some damn proposals that they're going to present and they're going to be taken care of and they're going to be able to manage all of this money. They are crazy. They're not going to get a dime from these people.

3:21:26 They don't even know how to put together the right kind of proposals, to even be considered in this way that government works and how you have to get through the House and the Senate and all of these committees, even in order to get to the president to sign something, and he's not going to sign a darn thing for them. He's a racist. He does not have any appreciation for black people or black women in particular. He's talked about it so bad. He talked about John Lewis so bad. He talked about Cummings so bad. He has no respect for us. He's not doing anything for us. And for those black young men who think somehow they can align themselves with Trump, not only are they terribly mistaken, any of them showing their face, I will never ever forgive them.

3:22:15 undermining their possibility to help their own people and their own communities. It is absolutely unconscionable. It is shameful. Wow, man. Maxine never disappoints. Maxine is something else. Maxine, how long have you been in the office? She's been in a long time, man. She been in 35 years. Ice Cube got More done in a weekend. I mean like you did in all your what you couldn't even get them to make a commitment to him the Democrats would say hey at least talk to him before the you know the election Well, it's not on the table. Well the thing that was really insulting was her saying Basically paraphrasing you so dumb you don't even know how government works. You don't know what it takes excuse me

3:23:06 Uh, grade school, you get some civics. Yeah, I think, you know, we've all seen the cartoon. Here's the bill. Here's how the bill gets passed. We understand for her to say that was super insulting about anybody like she, oh my goodness. What other demographic could she talk to like that? Gosh, you're so right. Everyone would be up in arms. I mean, I think I sent this clip to you from the minute I saw it. Yeah, of course, you know, my eyes are peeled, but you're right. No, it's... No, I'm serious. Just fill that blank in and emphasize black men. Not a single demographic could... Well, you could say it to white men because whatever, you know, but it's... That might have been... She might have gotten pushback for that, but this... It's unconscionable.

3:23:55 People are crazy. What time it was with the the Arkansas Little Rock cartel and the bushes and all of that and then you got your your beat wet and then all of a sudden you rolled over and Played it play you're saying played the good soldiers. So Maxine you can miss me with that and you can call us despicable. Whatever We'll see you on the fourth Yes, and to everybody, all politics really is local. Everyone talks about the presidency, but it's this what's going on. This is where the rubber meets the road with your local representatives, your state representatives. Maxine White's amazing. She is still allowed to be, that she keeps getting voted back in. You got to vote a lot of these people out. You got to make the change. And you may not be voting for

3:24:58 You may not be voting at all, but make your voice known one way or the other because a change has to come. And I will say this, even if you don't vote, and I don't tell anybody what to do, but even if you don't vote, you have a responsibility to be engaged. in the political process. That means understanding what's going on, what voting or not voting or who voting impacts you personally and the people around you. So I don't want to hear people say, oh well, out of laziness not voting. Mine is strategic and that's my personal choice. Do what's best for you, but don't do anything out of ignorance. So I will say that. And Mo, thank you for another

3:25:50 Fun episode. I think this was this was kind of the the cherry on top so everyone sees what's going on What's at stake where the battle is taking place? It's going to be super interesting tomorrow and the next three or four weeks however long it takes It could be it could be over in 24 hours. We don't know that is the great American experiment and I'm very pleased to be a part of this chapter in American history and I could not be more proud to be Going through this chapter with you Mo and I really appreciate it. It's been it's been a ball every episode and hopefully people understand while we do what we do to inform people of the narratives and I will say just a prediction. Um, I think things are gonna be a lot different after this point in time and as I always say

3:26:47 pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. It always has that nasty way of doing it. Although for this show, it ain't nasty. We love it. Come on, truth. It's always fun to see you poke your head up. Hey Moe, thank you so much, man. Have a great week. I mean, we'll be texting, we'll be in touch and I'm sure we'll be doing another MoFax within a week or so depending on where the state of the universe is. Alright Adam, I'll talk to you later. Have a good one. Thanks man, you too. And for all of you listening, please remember this is a Value for Value program and production. You can support us by sending your time, your talent, your treasure to mofax.com, direct to our donation page at mofundme.com. M-O-F-U-N-D-M-E dot com.

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