Topic: Seal

The hosts discuss famous musical covers, such as the Isley Brothers' versions of songs by James Taylor and Seals and Crofts. They briefly touch on the movie Forrest Gump, interpreting it as an allegory for a biracial character who influenced cultural icons like Elvis Presley.

Comedian Amanda Seale argues on "The Real" that even if the Smollett case was a hoax, it was "low-key noble" for bringing attention to racial issues. She invokes the name of Emmett Till to justify the use of taxpayer resources, a move the hosts criticize as a dangerous manipulation of historical trauma.

Amanda Seale continues to defend Jussie Smollett, suggesting his actions were merely "method acting gone wrong" and that he should not face prison time. The hosts argue this mentality is a byproduct of the "Soros sister" prosecution style that allows criminals to return to the neighborhoods they terrorize.

The Smollett siblings were raised in a household deeply rooted in activism, with their mother being close friends with Black Panther leaders like Bobby Seale and Angela Davis. Jurnee Smollett, the most successful actor in the family, began her career as a child on "Full House" and has remained a prominent activist throughout her life.

Singer Seal criticizes Oprah Winfrey for her past association with Harvey Weinstein, sharing a meme that calls out Hollywood hypocrisy. After facing backlash and being told to "stay in his lane," Seal backtracks, leading the hosts to discuss the "sunken place" and the pressure on celebrities to remain in alignment with industry leaders.

Dothard Perry, an FBI informant during the 1960s, describes the process of infiltrating radical groups and receiving cash payments for "hot pieces of information." Perry expresses remorse for misusing the trust of those he surveilled, admitting his information led to the undoing of various groups. The hosts use this historical context to show that the use of informants to disrupt political movements is a long-standing government tactic.

Investigative reports reveal that Richard Aoki, the man who provided the Black Panthers with their first firearms, was an undercover FBI informant. Another former informant, Dothard Perry, describes the process of being paid in cash by the Bureau to infiltrate and undo political groups. The hosts suggest that many radical movements are historically steered by covert government catalysts.

Referencing episode 7 of the podcast, the hosts revisit the testimony of the late Ferguson activist Darren Seals (King D). Seals described Black Lives Matter as a corporate-backed organization rather than a grassroots hashtag, accusing leaders of "playing cat and mouse" with the media for financial gain. The segment notes Seals' tragic death in a burned-out car as a significant loss to organic movements.

Amanda Seales compared black women to "Jesus" for "resurrecting" Joe Biden's campaign during the primaries. This comparison is cited as an example of the extreme rhetoric used by pundits who continue to support Biden despite being ignored by his campaign.

A historical coincidence is noted: George H.W. Bush lived in Compton, California, for a brief period in the late 1940s, decades before it became a crack epicenter. The focus then shifts to Mina, Arkansas, a remote airport allegedly used for CIA drug smuggling during Bill Clinton's governorship. The Tom Cruise film American Made is criticized for sanitizing this history by omitting the political figures involved.

Local Ferguson activist Darren Seals criticized the national Black Lives Matter organization, calling it a "hashtag" movement that exploited local tragedy for profit. Seals argued that outside organizers like DeRay McKesson did not represent the socially conservative values of the local black community and failed to provide resources to those on the ground.

Ferguson activist Darren Seals was found dead in a burning car with a gunshot wound in 2016, a case that remains largely out of the national spotlight. The lack of follow-up investigation is compared to the death of DNC staffer Seth Rich, suggesting that certain deaths are ignored when they do not fit a useful political narrative.